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Speaker 1: welcome to Hoops Tonight, presented by Fan Duel Here at

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Speaker 1: the volume. I'm Jason timp Happy Friday. Everybody, congrats making

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Speaker 1: plans for the weekend. What an incredible start to the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals. Very clearly the two best teams in the

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Speaker 1: teams they've played up to this point, definitely look like

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Speaker 1: Last night, obviously, I went on with Mr Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1: You can find it there, or you can find it

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Speaker 1: on Collins podcast feed. But this morning I had the

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Speaker 1: entirety and really sift through on a possession by possession basis,

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Speaker 1: especially that fourth quarter run in the way that Boston

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Speaker 1: this series. We're gonna get into a bunch of nitty

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Speaker 1: gritty details from this game in today's show before we

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Speaker 1: vacated paint just simply makes defensive rotations way harder. If

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Speaker 1: Robert Williams is sitting in the dunker spot and Draymond

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Speaker 1: Green's guarding him, he can kind of sit on the

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Speaker 1: block and effectively guard Rob and guard anybody who's driving

434
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Speaker 1: into the lane. But if he's guarding Al Horford and

435
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: Al Horford's all the way in the corner, now that's

436
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: a much different, much more difficult conundrum. If he sits

437
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: in the block, now Al Horford is gonna get wide

438
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: open three is all game long. If he stays hugged

439
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: up to Al Horford, driving lanes are there all night long.

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00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: By spacing everybody out in a five out system, you

441
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: make any defensive rotation around the paint, it's significantly more

442
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: difficult to do. And if you do so, you're basically

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00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: are inteed to give up a three last night with

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00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: Rob on the floor, With Rob Willy Williams on the floor,

445
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: so there four out one in they had a one

446
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: oh seven point five offensive rating. With Rob off the floor,

447
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: they had a hundred and forty offensive rating. And for

448
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: this entire playoff run, they've been six point four points

449
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: better per one possessions on offense with Rob off the floor.

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00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: It's a simple five out concept which I've always been

451
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Speaker 1: such a huge believer in, but every single time I

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Speaker 1: see it bear out in these playoff environments, and I

453
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: wish more people would kind of get behind that movement

454
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Speaker 1: within the league, and I hope to see, you know,

455
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: a bunch more teams try to adopt it over the

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Speaker 1: course of the next couple of seasons, especially for a

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Speaker 1: team like Boston that thrives and driving kick. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about this with Colin Coward last night. You know

459
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Speaker 1: what Dallas does, the heliocentric system. It's difficult for guys

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Speaker 1: to get into a rhythm. But Boston's at their best

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00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: when everyone's involved and Marcus Smartest having driving kicks and

462
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: Derek White is having driving kicks. Like, think about that system.

463
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: That's their best lineup in this series is gonna be

464
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: Derek White and Smart Al Horford and Tatum Brown. Those

465
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: five guys together can run a damn effective five out

466
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Speaker 1: offense when they're all engaged and they're all touching the basketball,

467
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: especially when Al Horford is shooting the ball as well

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Speaker 1: as he did. Is one other interesting element in the

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Speaker 1: series that I noticed last night. Kavan Looney continues to

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00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: be an absolute monster on the offensive glass. We uh

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Speaker 1: talked about this in the series preview. Had seven offensive

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Speaker 1: rebounds in the two regular season games against Boston. He

473
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Speaker 1: can get engaged with Horford in a box out and

474
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Speaker 1: just reach over the top and grab him because he's

475
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: such a monstrously large human being. It's just just physically

476
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: imposing and just understands rebounding. He understands the angles, and

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00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: it's like that that funny, funny clip from the MJ

478
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: documentary with Dennis Rodmen talking about the ball bouncing off

479
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: the rim and weird ways. He's just really, really good

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00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: at that, and that's gonna be a serious problem for

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Speaker 1: Boston that they're gonna have to address now. For me,

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00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: I think the easiest way to do that, and I

483
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: demonstrated this with a handful of clips on on the

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Speaker 1: film that you guys saw. But it's not Horford's job

485
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Speaker 1: to grab the rebound. It's Horford's job to box out Looney.

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00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: If he boxes out Looney, Looney can't jump because if

487
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: you're connected to someone's body and they jump, it's an

488
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: over the back foul. So it's the easiest way to

489
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: to to take him out of the play. But if

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00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: the ball comes directly at them, Looney has the advantage

491
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: because he's bigger than Horford, and Horford has to squat

492
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Speaker 1: down load to get into his box out. You have

493
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Speaker 1: to crash from the perimeter to secure rebounds. This is

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00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: what Golden State is so good at. They're so good

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00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: with Auto Porter Jr. And Andrew Wiggins and Andrea Guadala

496
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: and all these bigger wings that they have. They all

497
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: just come flying in and Draymond engages in the box out.

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00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't I don't give a damn about Draymond's rebound

499
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: in numbers. His job is not to secure the rebound.

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00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: His job is the box out. But the Celtics have

501
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: to take on that same concept with his Looney situation.

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00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: There were a lot of plays where I saw Looney

503
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: grabbing offensive rebounds over Horford while Tatum and Brown were

504
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: hugged up to their man and not doing their job

505
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: to crash the defensive class from the perimeter. It's an

506
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: easy thing that Boston has to clean up, but into

507
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: a Golden State in general, like you're you're struggling. You know,

508
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the biggest issue that Golden State's

509
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with for the rest of this series.

510
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: Golden State's best offensive players are not their best defensive players,

511
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: and so they're constantly going to have to tow the

512
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: line of how much defense they want on the floor

513
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: and how much offense they want on the floor. I

514
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: think Looney, even though Golden State, even though Boston is

515
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: not gonna guard him, is so impactful on the defensive

516
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: end and so impactful as an offensive rebounder that I

517
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: think it's worth the give and take there. So I'd

518
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: like to see a little bit more Looney. Um uh,

519
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: last touch for for Boston Tatum. Tatum at a rough

520
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: night score in the basketball great night that stillitating, which

521
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: is what you expect. I didn't you know, I picked

522
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: tatums under an or over under show, which was which

523
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: was a ship show. I think I only got like

524
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: half of them, right, Uh, gambling in a nutshell. Um.

525
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: But Jayson Tatum, I I thoroughly expected him to struggle

526
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: last night, because almost every star in the history of

527
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: the league, when they get initially exposed to the NBA

528
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: Final stage, is caught off guard. It's just there are

529
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: so many examples in NBA history of members of the

530
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: media and players and coaches saying I've was completely blown

531
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: away by the scope and the scale of the NBA Finals,

532
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: the huge increase in media presence, the how early fans

533
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: show up to games, just the pressure in the history,

534
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: the Larry Obrian trophy being there. It used to be

535
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: that they had the Larry O. Brian trophy painted on

536
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: the court at center court. It used to add this

537
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: whole other vibe there, which I wish they would go

538
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: back to doing. But the point is is it is

539
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: a It's just a lot. I mean Jayson Tatum, I

540
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: think he had two air balls in the first quarter

541
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: and mishandled the basketball a few times like that's to

542
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: be expected. And so if you're Tatum, look you got

543
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: your bad one out of the way. Your team got

544
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: to win anyway. You need to settle down. Steph out

545
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: playing Tatum in Game one was a pretty predictable thing

546
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: because he is so experienced and he's been there so

547
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: many times. So last, but not least, looking looking forward,

548
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: not good for Golden State to blow a game where

549
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: Steph plays as well as he does, to blow a

550
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: game where Boston was as sloppy as they were in

551
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: that first quarter. So not good, But this is survivable.

552
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: Boston is all but guaranteed to have a handful of

553
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: games in this series where they don't play well because

554
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: they don't shoot well and everything falls apart for them.

555
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: Chances are it will happen at least once in Boston,

556
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: so you can recover home court by getting a win

557
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: in Game two in capitalizing on one of those poor

558
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: Boston efforts in Game three or Game four. In terms

559
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: of adjustments, it's simply just a little bit sharper on

560
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: your defensive rotations, a little bit more effort on closeouts

561
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: to make those shots a little bit more difficult. But

562
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: continue to pack the paint and trust that it's better

563
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: to take away the easy driving lanes for Jalen Brown

564
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: and for Jayson Tatum than it is to concede those

565
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: at the at the expense of taking away those three

566
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: point shots. I think Golden State is going to win

567
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: big in Game two. I think they're desperate. I think

568
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: they understand the gravity of the situation. I think they

569
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: will be psychotic and desperate with their closeouts and take

570
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: away a lot of those easier opportunities that Boston got.

571
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: Each of those shots will just be a little bit

572
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: more rushed, and when they're a little bit more rushed,

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00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: they'll miss a few. When they miss a few, it'll

574
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: get in their head and it will it will steamroll

575
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: on them. So I would take Golden State against the spread.

576
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: I think they're getting four points, are giving up four

577
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: points right now. I expect him to cover that. I

578
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if this was a ten or

579
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: fifteen point victory. I think Golden State the experienced team

580
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: with the experience advantage, who understands just how important it

581
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: is to win this game, and expecting Boston, just like

582
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: they have throughout this entire playoff run, to let their

583
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: foot off the gas and get sloppy and to start

584
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: missing shots. I expect Golden State to win Game two.

585
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: For Boston adjustments moving forward. If you're gonna run drop coverage.

586
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: You've gotta be above the three point line. You can't

587
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: just let the best shooters of all time come free

588
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: and clear off of screens. You've gotta be sharper in

589
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: terms of some of the mistakes that you made in

590
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: that first quarter, botching switches, not picking up people in

591
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: in transition. But I expect them to be and last,

592
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: but not least a little bit less Robert Williams and

593
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more of your five out system that

594
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: you thrive so much in. But I'm very, very excited

595
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: for game too. It looks like we're gonna be going

596
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: live with Colin again after that game, so I'll see

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00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: you guys right after the final buzzer on Sunday. The

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Speaker 1: Volume