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Speaker 1: Welcome on in as off the Edge the podcast and

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Speaker 1: me and your host Cam Jordan's and I'm officially jobless.

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Speaker 1: I'm in between contracts. I'm in between jobs. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know I still got you, you still got me

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Speaker 1: because we got off the Edge of the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: super excited to bring in who was a former teammate

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Speaker 1: of mine for a brief second. A guy who has

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame resume, A man who started off

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Speaker 1: with the Redskins, went to different Broncos, just to Saints

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Speaker 1: real quick. You know, a guy who had three first

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Speaker 1: team All Pro, shit for second team All Pro, twelve

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. It was an NFL interception leader, a corner

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Speaker 1: who spoke for himself. My god, Chimp.

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Speaker 2: Bailey, Cam, are we doing legendary?

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Speaker 1: I love I love bringing in former teammates.

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Speaker 2: Even though it was it was a camp, it was brief.

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Speaker 2: It's all good though. I had a great time.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like we were just talking about it,

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Speaker 1: like you brought a veteran presence that we needed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't get it. Sometimes all coaches

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Speaker 1: sees like, oh, we gotta get younger when you have

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Speaker 1: veterans that have proven themselves timing time out well Pro Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but when even if, even if you never touched the field,

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Speaker 1: you would have helped the entire corner room. I would

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Speaker 1: have paid just for the wisdom. Yeah, and this still

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Speaker 1: would let you play because if you can't play corner, fine,

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Speaker 1: go play safety real quick. You were calling plays out

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Speaker 1: in preseason games and I was like, Oh, he's real.

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Speaker 1: Where you're going to win?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what, man, I was. I was

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Speaker 3: thirty six at the time. I was physically I had

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Speaker 3: I just couldn't keep going. I probably could have gave

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Speaker 3: you eight games, but.

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Speaker 1: The eight games would have corrowed all our young guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, But if you're not a starter, you

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Speaker 3: know how it is. It's a numbers game. It's if

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Speaker 3: you're not a starter, you gotta play special teams, especially

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Speaker 3: at corner. And you know, damn well, I was not

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Speaker 3: playing special teams, so no, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it was not at that point.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, man, you know I was

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Speaker 3: when I when I look back, I'm happy of the

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Speaker 3: way it turned out because it would have been hell

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Speaker 3: trying to get through that season. And I just I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I was up for it, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Look, I've seen some wild things in my time being

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Speaker 1: being in the lead for fifteen years. Twenty fourteen, we

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Speaker 1: in Virginia at training camp. You can roll through there

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, Sean Payne, you say, what

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Speaker 1: does he say? We don't have to see it every day,

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Speaker 1: but you have to see it. And there was days

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Speaker 1: I saw it and I said, yeah, we got Champ Vailey.

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Speaker 1: And then it was somewhere in there preseason games going.

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Speaker 1: I saw you playing in the fourth preseason game and

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Speaker 1: I said, this is so damn disrespectful.

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Speaker 2: Well if you remember to walk up. I didn't play

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Speaker 2: in a couple because I hurt my foot. Yeah, that thing,

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Speaker 2: and then you know how it is. They just need

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Speaker 2: to get you back out there. Oh yeah, he's healthy,

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Speaker 2: cut right now. So you know how it is. You

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Speaker 2: gets your tape and they you know, you.

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Speaker 1: Don't know how it is. Well, you've seen guys go

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Speaker 1: through this.

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Speaker 2: You've seen guys.

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Speaker 1: Go through that.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, they'll they'll let you go in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 2: You know, once they get you out there, they prove

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Speaker 2: you healthy.

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Speaker 3: And I I almost feel like they had to dodge

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Speaker 3: that bullet, because if they kept me around.

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Speaker 2: As an injured guy, you just never know what.

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Speaker 1: They would have to pay me.

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Speaker 3: So so it's it's one of those things. And my

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Speaker 3: shoulder hurts and Miselda, you know, I could have played

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Speaker 3: played that game, but you know, I think, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: glad to wear it worked out because he did me

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Speaker 3: a favor. And you know what's crazy is now that

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's in Denver, I see him all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. So it's just funny how things come full

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Speaker 3: And I'm I have no regrets about going to New

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Speaker 3: Orleans and spending that few months that I was there,

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Speaker 3: and I got to meet you and see y'all boys,

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Speaker 3: worth it.

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Speaker 1: I'm upset I wasn't thinking, like as a year four

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Speaker 1: player about three year four players. I wasn't thinking farther

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Speaker 1: enough in the head, like when I started having like

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Speaker 1: legends of the games, touched the team whatever in whatever capacity.

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Speaker 1: I started getting their Saints style jerseys, you know, like

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Speaker 1: I probably want a few people that got the Brandon

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Speaker 2: Saints jersey Wow, Like I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: Man. That's like if they touched it, like Adrian Peterson

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Speaker 1: got it, you know, des Bryant got it. Don't have

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Speaker 1: a dad gum, you know, if you got a Saints

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Speaker 1: Champ baby back there, you don't want that anyway. I do.

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Speaker 1: I do because you're legendary. But it hits better when

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Speaker 1: it's black and gold here. That's just you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: just that. I'm that through and through, like, yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 3: There's one out there because I don't have one either,

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Speaker 3: So we're in the same boat.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we can get some couple of kids made. Let's

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: Fact I could. I could work on that. You see,

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Speaker 1: you see the you see the terrain, the coaching terrain

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Speaker 1: as as as such in our NFL. We now have

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Speaker 1: what nine NFL coaching openings, you know, whether that's New York,

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Speaker 1: whether that's now the Steelers, the Ravens, the two newest

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Speaker 1: editions with Harball and and Tomlin out of there. What happened?

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Speaker 1: Like the loyalty the Steelers don't.

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Speaker 2: Part ways, They've never done. That's that's what's crazy. I think.

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Speaker 2: I think people need to understand, like the.

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Speaker 3: Steelers only had three coaches in the history of that franchise,

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Speaker 3: So you gotta think.

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Speaker 1: Tom stepped stepped down.

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Speaker 3: What does it look like for the next guy, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if they're gonna get that

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Speaker 3: a losing season all that time.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, appreciate you for taking the playoffs and they

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Speaker 1: never have a lose season. Color get out of here.

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Speaker 3: So what does it really take to stay in a

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Speaker 3: job like that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Now I'm understanding as I read the

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Speaker 2: fine print.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he stepped down, but we all know that thing

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Speaker 3: had to be mutual because.

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Speaker 1: A mixable de punchure.

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Speaker 3: Now, if he goes and he's coaching somewhere else next year,

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Speaker 3: then we all know that he probably never wanted to

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Speaker 3: step down, So right, I could see him taking a

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Peyton played that so well right, and

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Speaker 2: he played I mean, he.

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Speaker 1: I need to step away from the game TV for

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Speaker 1: coach through and through.

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Speaker 3: We all know that, right, So understanding where he is

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Speaker 3: even Harvar.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Harbor's departure was a little different.

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Speaker 3: But both these guys were at their program for over

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Speaker 3: fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: That's that's an eternity in this game.

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Speaker 3: And the power and the leverage that they have now

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Speaker 3: to further their career. I mean, it's at its peak.

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Speaker 3: And it's nice to be a free agent these days.

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Speaker 3: When they're throwing around twenty twenty five million for a

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I was thinking players. I was like, it's nice

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Speaker 1: to be a young free agent right now. That's my bodies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you sub you subbed thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, no matter what position.

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Speaker 3: If the money is out there, and it's it's so

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Speaker 3: astronomically higher than when I played.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievab my rookie year. And it's it's small, it's small,

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Speaker 1: I made it. I made I Like, you wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: believe my rookie contract is, Mama, I'm making one thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars a day, every day of the year. Mama, my

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Speaker 1: big pay is three sixty five. I said, I went

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Speaker 1: for college scrapping. Hey, mom, let me like, let me

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Speaker 1: get a band and let pop let me get five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Do you know my older brother, a bro like let me,

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Speaker 1: let me get sixty off you. I'm fighting to pay rent.

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Speaker 1: I'm fighting to do all these I picked up a job,

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Speaker 1: these kids got an other. These kids it's rookie pay

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Speaker 1: scale north of.

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Speaker 3: Now it's ten thousand a day.

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Speaker 2: Dude. It's it's beyond unreal at this point.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm happy for him, even if college

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Speaker 2: I mean it's wild, wild west right.

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Speaker 3: Now, West and yeah, yeah, and it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Are you even think there's making a better pro or

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Speaker 3: And like, it ain't about giving them money, it's the

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Speaker 2: Let's just look at it this way. Who is advising them?

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Speaker 1: We don't know, nobody does so and you hope they

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Speaker 1: got good parents in the corner. And I hope that

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Speaker 3: And find out who your agent is right away and

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Speaker 3: who's advising you because your agent is vetted, it has

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Speaker 1: After Who's gonna create a college student union? That's tough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's already hard to unionize uh, thirty to

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Speaker 3: And if you are expecting you expect them to get

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Speaker 3: on the same page about unionize it, they're not going to.

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Speaker 3: So that structure has to come from the adults in

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Speaker 3: the room, like what are we doing? And that and

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Speaker 3: the lack of structure is allowing the state to continue

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Speaker 3: to be the way it is.

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Speaker 2: And who's benefiting Just look around, follow the money. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the coaches are.

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Speaker 3: Extremely beneficial from this process, and they move around.

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Speaker 1: Just as much as any universities c double A. They've

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Speaker 1: been beneficial, like all right, well now, like teach the

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Speaker 1: next generation on how to do things, and then they

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Speaker 1: could be a better structure for for the for the

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Speaker 1: foreseeable future.

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Speaker 2: Simple is that simple?

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Speaker 1: Oh takes me take me to you know, Uh, the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling, you know, like I'm not. And if

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Speaker 1: you go to multiple teams, you clearly get to have favorites. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you got you got two sons, you got to

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Speaker 1: you got the you know, the Washington and you got Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Like Washington's out, so you don't have to worry about

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Speaker 2: If they win this game, it's defense is only gonna

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Speaker 1: Defense wins championship.

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Speaker 2: They just have to click right now.

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Speaker 3: It can't be relying on the defense this week and

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Speaker 3: That's the only thing they missed most of the year.

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Speaker 1: I'll say, you know you you look at no you

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Speaker 2: And man, when I watched him, I'm like, yes, they

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Speaker 3: You know, I could say this, I'm so glad I'm

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Speaker 2: I was doing the same thing, and.

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Speaker 3: I feel like what what disabled me from really going

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Speaker 3: How quickly I could decline or I did decline and

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Speaker 2: I hurt my foot my fifteenth year. I sat out

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, man, I gotta work like you.

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Speaker 1: They stayed, They stay trying to be like yo, saving

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Speaker 2: This is my dream.

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Speaker 1: Will squeeze this dream dry? Like they'd be like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: I have lost, I have left.

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Speaker 3: Let for all those that are like year eight, nine, ten,

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Speaker 1: I don't even believe in a days. I don't. I

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Speaker 2: I wish I never did.

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Speaker 3: But in high sight, I'm like, man, all that stuff

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Speaker 2: So keep working, man, you gotta keep working.

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Speaker 1: Got to all right, let's go, let's go over the

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Speaker 1: you know the playoffs right now, you know, let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I just want to know your

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Speaker 1: remaining playoffs. Let's go game by game here, see see

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Speaker 2: I mean, they don't talk about this.

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Speaker 1: Come on, there's gonna be a year for Josh alla win.

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Speaker 1: It has to be this year, revenge season.

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Speaker 3: I'm not buying into this is their year because they

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Speaker 2: I said it should be right.

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Speaker 3: Because all the monsters is out, that the Chiefs are out,

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Speaker 2: So I know, I know they're ready for him this year.

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Speaker 3: They got going for them is that guy behind Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: Give They'll give different problems.

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Speaker 1: Let cook let come if.

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Speaker 3: They and that the fact that they don't have that

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Speaker 3: And I'm looking forward to this one because, like you say,

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Speaker 3: But that's why I love football so much, because year

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Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody predicted that everybody had the utiful suspects.

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Speaker 3: Look, man, the sk with this team, well, they take

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Speaker 2: So so for me, didn't look comfortable exactly. So defense

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Speaker 3: So how often can you howten can you just lean

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Speaker 3: And that didn't happen for the Patriots at least not enough.

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Speaker 3: Look, man, you ain't putting up twenty five thirty points

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Speaker 1: Get it, gonna go, get this where you're gonna find

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Speaker 3: So I do feel like both teams gotta figure out

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Speaker 3: the Steelers to me, had been frauds all year, like

445
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 3: for their division was just down.

446
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: They ended up sneaking out with the win of the division.

447
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 3: Great, but I just never felt like they were gonna

448
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: advance in the playoffs. And the Texans definitely tried to

449
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 3: give it to them, but you know, the better team won.

450
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 1: So I love to tea there were going nine or Seahawks.

451
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: Seahawks.

452
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna get into it. I like the Niners.

453
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: I just I just don't feel like they got.

454
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: Even The Niners are like that team that's one unit,

455
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, on paper, they

456
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: look like they're they're not as advantageous as as anybody

457
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: they face, and yet they don't. They match up will

458
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: versus anybody because they play as a true team. Special

459
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: teams offense, defense. They are the well coordinated team that

460
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, if we slip.

461
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: Up, you're gonna take a thing I like about him.

462
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: I like this.

463
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you I said, I like the Seahawks,

464
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you why. I like the forty

465
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: nine ers as a team because they're finding success with

466
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: other guys like DeMarcus Robinson. Where the hell he come from?

467
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: Her? He I saw him play a couple of weeks ago.

468
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: He made a few plays, Okay, yeah, they usually spread

469
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 3: it out a little bit, and then he goes off

470
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: in the playoff game. I'm like, well, damn, what a

471
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 3: gennis get going? And we all know they got to

472
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: worry about CMC back there, Like so dealing with all

473
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 3: those facts, if they can now losing kittle kittles really

474
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: hurts hurts.

475
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 2: So they gotta.

476
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 3: Find production at that tight end position, because they'd love

477
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 3: to do a lot with the tight ends. If they

478
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: can find success with the guys that are really role players,

479
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: then I could see them getting to the Seahawks. But

480
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: the Seahawks just went to uh, San Francisco and beat

481
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: the dog that's out of them a couple of weeks ago,

482
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Speaker 3: and you know, I don't I don't feel like they're

483
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: gonna overcome that. They gotta go on the road to Seattle,

484
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 3: and that defense is another monster.

485
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Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence Williams in the.

486
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Speaker 2: Middle, and their secondary is loaded with talent. I mean,

487
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: it's it's one of those teams.

488
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: Man. They surprised me, and I think that the thing

489
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: that they figured out is get assistant play from the quarterback.

490
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: And then Jasen is a whole other animal that emerged.

491
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: Out of nowhere.

492
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: Like we all knew he was talented, but damn, now

493
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 3: you're talking about him possibly being one of the best

494
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: in the league.

495
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: Nobody saw that coming.

496
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: So when you have young guys kind of overachieved for

497
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: your team, that's when success starts to happen.

498
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Speaker 1: I mean, and they got eat and you I said, damn,

499
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: you took you know, took our special teams, king dude.

500
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Speaker 1: And now he's looking King Lea again.

501
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are loaded with talent, and that was just

502
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: the icing on the cake to see.

503
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Speaker 1: All right, what about rams Bears.

504
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bears ready, you know, you know.

505
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Speaker 3: I didn't know if the Bears gonna be ready last absolutely,

506
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: did you know, what's funny is during that game, I'm

507
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 3: in a group text with a bunch of guys. I

508
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: haven't been a believer in Green Bay, so I'm not

509
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 3: surprised that they one the way they did.

510
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: Now, I do not I do not see the Bears

511
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: winning this game. I just.

512
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: The Rams.

513
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: The Rams are just a Williams in the back.

514
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: You go, you might. You got Matt Stafford wheeling and

515
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: dealing at the highest level, and who's gonna stop the cool.

516
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: Who's gonna stop him?

517
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's they got weapons. And I've never seen

518
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 3: a quarterback so on point at this point in his

519
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: career than Matthew Staffords.

520
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Speaker 2: And the defense is the defense. We all know they

521
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: got a great defense too.

522
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: So Jared Verse, dude, man, you got Kobe Turner in

523
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: the middle. What like you got dogs, got the linebacker,

524
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: linebackers got there himself a new contract where he was,

525
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 1: I got the Rams.

526
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: So let's let's get in the conversation.

527
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Speaker 1: All right, we get in the conversation.

528
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Speaker 3: Winning super Bowl, and on I got I think I'm

529
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: a put the Rams in the Super Bowl, and I'm

530
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: gonna say they're gonna play.

531
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: And we're gonna get that four championship for my Broncos.

532
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: So we gotta get it, man, we gotta get it.

533
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the year I got, I got friends,

534
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: I got, I got real friends and previous teammates that

535
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: I just root for. I want everybody to lose if

536
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: I'm on the couch.

537
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: But you know, when I was there in the preseason,

538
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: you know, just you have side conversations with Sean Payton,

539
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna give you something, and he was like, yeah, man,

540
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: this is this is a super Bowl caliber team.

541
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: Like now he's not.

542
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, yeah, like you know, to be talking

543
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: like that in the preseason, yeah okay, but not even

544
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: the preseason.

545
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: This was early in the off season. He was like,

546
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: obviously we gotta go work, but we got the tools

547
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: to do it.

548
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, all right, and then oh it

549
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: just progressed from there.

550
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, okay, he said it. You know you

551
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 2: you don't.

552
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: I don't take those kind of comments lightly, because this

553
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: dude to seem more football than anybody.

554
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: And to know that.

555
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: You have that kind of talent around you or the

556
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: possibility of being that good, you gotta buy into it.

557
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: And you know how it is, man, you got to

558
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: go play the game.

559
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: But at the same time, man, there's so much good,

560
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 3: good football knowledge out there from guys like him that

561
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't ever take anything he says about

562
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: the game, like, because these dudes know the game, they've

563
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: been around it, they've been in these rooms, they've been.

564
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: Around great other great coaches.

565
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: So just knowing that, I'm like, Okay, so it gave

566
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: me confidence for my guys to go out there and

567
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: do what he said they were gonna do.

568
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 2: And they here, they are number one seed, here the path.

569
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: So let's see. Let's go play the game and see

570
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: what happens.

571
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Speaker 1: We'll be back in a minute. My question, how'd you

572
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: even leave that? Like maybe I'm just not old enough,

573
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: Like how'd you end up leaving Washington go to Denver?

574
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: I got get on to Denver, but I so you'll

575
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: be like, how does that happen?

576
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: You?

577
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: Like a cornerstone again? Okay, So let me give you

578
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: a pro pro bowler, all right, cornerstone of a franchise.

579
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: Right, I'll give you some contexts when I got drafted.

580
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: I was drafted by Charlie Casseman in nineteen ninety nine.

581
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 3: That summer of nineteen ninety nine, Dan Snyder bought the team.

582
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: So I was never one of his guys.

583
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: I was always from the old regime, even though I

584
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: started my rookie year as him being my owner. So

585
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: fast forward to the next year, they draft LeVar Arrington

586
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: and Chris Samuels number two and number three.

587
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: Fast forward a couple years later.

588
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: Both those dudes signed extensions before I signed mine or

589
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: before they offered me an extension. So when it was

590
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: time for me to sign my extension, and they waited

591
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: till my final year to try.

592
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: To resign me, they offered me nothing.

593
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: They didn't It was I wouldn't have been highest paid corner,

594
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: which I deserve to be at the time.

595
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: You know, I've been to four straight Pro Bowls. You

596
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: know I was all pro.

597
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be.

598
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: I had done everything that you could possibly do on

599
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: the field to earn that paycheck. But I was I

600
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: remember I was never one of their guys, and that.

601
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

602
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: That always carried weight with people like him, and fortunate

603
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: enough for me, I was franchised. So when they franchised me,

604
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: you gotta think I gotta sign my tag in order

605
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: for them to trade me.

606
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 2: So I was able to see the offers out there.

607
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: I had two offers on the table, one for Denver

608
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: and one for the Jets. The one for Denver was

609
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: for seven years, one for the Jets for six.

610
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 2: Years, and Denver basically offered me what I asked for.

611
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: So the offer that was on the table was what

612
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: I asked for from the from the Redskins. At the time,

613
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: Denver looked at and it was like, oh, no doubt,

614
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: we'll pay that.

615
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: I got to think.

616
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: At that point, I'm thinking I'm leaving money on the

617
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: table because they took the offer. When somebody just bikes

618
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: on the first try, Oh shit, I gotta throw some

619
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: more there.

620
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: I didn't do that, you know. I stuck to my guns,

621
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: you know.

622
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: So ultimately, once I knew the offer was what I

623
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: wanted it to be, I signed the franchise tag. They

624
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: traded me to Denver for Clinton Portis and a second

625
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: round pick. So when I got to Denver, Shanahan was like,

626
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't think we would get the second

627
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: round pick, but I asked for it because a running

628
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: back is a little more glamorous position, right, and Clinton

629
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: Portis had Clinton Porters was falling, right, So I'm a

630
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: little upset that he's actually leaving the team. On one hand,

631
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: but at the same time, we got this second round

632
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: pick that we later used on Tatum Bell, who came in,

633
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: wore the same numbers Clinton, and actually had a good

634
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: couple of years with us before he was traded to Detroit.

635
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: But but long story short, man, that's that's why I

636
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: left Washington.

637
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I was never we go to Denver and you elevated

638
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: your play even further with the all pro joints.

639
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

640
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: I was going to a franchise that was known for

641
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: getting the playoffs every year, great running scheme, always in

642
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: the playoffs, always a chance.

643
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: To win it. That's all I wanted. I just wanted

644
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: the chance to go win the title.

645
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: You got traded, So how did you How did you

646
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: elevate your play after the trade? Like you were already

647
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: a pro bowler? You you you into Denver, into the chat,

648
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I appreciate you, let me help, let

649
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: me go whole nothing.

650
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: So one thing you haven't experienced because you've been in

651
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: the same place. When you go to another team, people

652
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: look at you differently. Now I'm walking into this locker room,

653
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: the highest payed player on the team.

654
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going into my sixth year.

655
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: I'm in the prime of my career, so all the

656
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: young guys are looking at me, and I've known nothing

657
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: but one thing.

658
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: It's the work.

659
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: Like I took practice seriously, and I think that's what

660
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: Shanahan really bought into. You know, at the time, they

661
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: were dealing with Peyton Manning and that that receiver Cord

662
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: they had been put out in the playoffs. He was

663
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: eating them up in the playoffs every year, so they

664
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: knew they needed a cover corner. But also Shanahan was

665
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: big about practice. He was like, I don't care what

666
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: happens on game day. Every day you step out on

667
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: that field, I want to see you practice hard.

668
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 2: I knew nothing different.

669
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: So when he would use my film and cut ups

670
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: to point to, oh, this is how you work. This

671
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: is and I'm like, damn, you know, he's always putting

672
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: me out there.

673
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: But it was what it was.

674
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: That's what I understand.

675
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 2: I didn't know any different, and it was it was

676
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: fortunate enough for me.

677
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: I had Rod Smith on the other who was just

678
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: like me, but he was an offensive player season that

679
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 3: so I was happy that I had somebody like.

680
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: That to lean on and really learn like.

681
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: He was the pros pro and he was always one

682
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: hundred percent attendance at workouts in the off season. So

683
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: I tried to just sort of follow that. So again,

684
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: I understand, I'm in my sixth year, say that a little.

685
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Louder though, with one hundred attendance in the Ota Park, little.

686
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: A little louder every year.

687
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: That's that's the April May June workouts. That when it's

688
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: not like, man, like, I'm gonna be there, and then

689
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: they'll be there. Be there as a young player. Now

690
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: as a vent after you get your own little routine, sure,

691
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: but as a young player, and they'll be like, man, yeah,

692
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there, you know forty as a young player. Yeah,

693
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: you're two three four five six, bro, this is your

694
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: prime to take advantage of everything.

695
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

696
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: I give him a lot of credit for one seeing

697
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: and appreciating the way I work, but also duplicating that

698
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball. So it kept

699
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: me competitive and also just kept me on top of

700
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: my game. And right I knew nothing thing else but

701
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: to work like So for me, it wasn't like I

702
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: had to figure out how to be a pro. I'm

703
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: just working and then the results are the results. I

704
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: don't care about that every day.

705
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: And as and as a corner bro, You're like you

706
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: really didn't miss tackles, like like you came to us

707
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, man, I was like,

708
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: look like I was proud, oh or he ain't trying

709
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: to hit nobody and you was fire smacking cats.

710
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: I said, y'all, that was all pride standard, you know.

711
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: I was very proudful and making sure that I tackled.

712
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: I did everything, you know, because one thing about guys

713
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: I played with, like darn bring Deon Sanders, they were

714
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: known for not wanting to tackle, but they would tackle,

715
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: but they didn't want to do it.

716
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: I wanted people to believe I wanted to tackle. I

717
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: will tackle and it might hurt, you know, So.

718
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: I always and it was purposeful, like you know, I

719
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: didn't of course, I didn't like to run up on

720
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: these big boys, but if the opportunity presented itself, I'm

721
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: doing it. That's the way I was raised and how

722
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: how I just carried myself as I prepared to play

723
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: games like I'm gonna be completely.

724
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: There's more height than seeing a corner break early to

725
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: go for a tackle to the flat, make the make

726
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: it running backs. You know, ankles touch his ears just

727
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: so scorpious.

728
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: Down And that's what I that's what I love about

729
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 3: Kamar Lassiter when I brought him up, Like, yeah, it's

730
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: really the tackling.

731
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, you gotta understand the attitude.

732
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 3: You gotta have to go up there and hit bigger

733
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: guys over and over again.

734
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: Everybody's bigger than us as corners.

735
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: So when you have to do that over and over again, man,

736
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: you gotta really take pride in that.

737
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: And it's and it's not easy. It's nice easy at all.

738
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: So especially not in today's game. Could you imagine you

739
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: got to pull in tackle or garden you're no longer

740
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: allowed to chop underneathrom.

741
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like I avoided a couple of those big guys,

742
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: but that was by design, like I always knew, like

743
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: I'm not about to run up.

744
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: I'll never forget. Garry Allen was pulling.

745
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: The great late Larry Allen was pulling around on the

746
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: reverse and I made a miss. The unfortunate part is

747
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: I missed the damn running back, and I was like, man,

748
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: I gotta.

749
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: Figure out the receiver.

750
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: I gotta figure out how to get to him without

751
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: hitting this big guy, and you can't really practice that.

752
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: I just kept watching it on tape. I was like, okay,

753
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: if I just jump outside, jump back in. And you

754
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: know who was really good at it was another one of.

755
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: My draft mates, Antoine Winfield.

756
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: He was really good at taking himself out of it

757
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: and then jumping back in it. Oh my god, yes,

758
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: senior right, And you know he was. He was special

759
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: in that way. So I tried to emulate a lot

760
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: of that. And you know, it happens maybe three times

761
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: a year, so it wasn't like it was a constant thing.

762
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: It was just every now and then there's a lineman

763
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 3: gonna run.

764
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: Up on you. What are you gonna do? Well?

765
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: For what, I'm not hitting it, So I gotta figure

766
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: out how to dodge him without taking myself out of

767
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: the play. And I mean I did a successful a

768
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: couple of times, but you know a lot of times

769
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: I just get out of the way and let the

770
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: big boys just come clean it up.

771
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Right. No, the best way to the best way to

772
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: make that tackle is you you know what I'm saying.

773
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: But then again, I'm bigger. So I'm like, I'm going

774
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: through them.

775
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, see that's you.

776
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I meet him at the top.

777
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: You deal with these big boys all day every day.

778
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: When I see him, this foreign to me, Like what

779
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: in the hell do I do?

780
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: And he just every now again as a switch up.

781
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, Yeah, bro.

782
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: For sure. I mean you you were you were at

783
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: the Broncos for a number of years for Peyton entered

784
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: entered over to the Broncos. And once he did, you know,

785
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: you guys go thirteen to three the first season, thirty

786
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: three the second season, go to the super Bowl. You know,

787
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: like that's a fair tale story.

788
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: It sort of is until we lost in the Super

789
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: Bowl and then you know, it is what it is

790
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: at that point. But but I remember, you know when

791
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: he did come, it was right after t Bow and

792
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: this was right I think it was Lway's second year

793
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: because always first year we had t Bow. You know,

794
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: we had the playoff game where he threw the past

795
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: of DT in overtime and all this, so a lot

796
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: of great hoopla that year. But Lways he's a traditional quarterback, right,

797
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: so he wanted a traditional.

798
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: Quarterback immediately immediately when it got Payton, I'm like, yeah,

799
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: now I could go win my championship.

800
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: We obviously came up short, but it was a great

801
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: experience because it sort of reinvigorated my career at a

802
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: time where I knew I was on the back end,

803
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: like I could feel it, but when he came in

804
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, it just kind of ignited something and

805
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: I made the Pro Bowl that year, I got hurt

806
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: the next year, and then I ended up leaving the

807
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: following year. It was it's just an unfortunate quick decline

808
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: from me because of my health and obviously my age.

809
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: But it was a great experience to see him be

810
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: a leader that he was because everything that was talked

811
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: about before he got there, I mean it was by

812
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: the book.

813
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: To you go to practice and you it ain't known

814
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: iron sharp and iron you. Oh, this is one of

815
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: the greatest of all times. Yeah, I gotta be on

816
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: I gotta be on ten.

817
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: And it was good to see him prepare and practice

818
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: the way I want my teammates to practice. And that's

819
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 3: really why they ended up winning the championship later, because

820
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: he just instilled so many high level qualities in the

821
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: office that just resonated and carried over to that Super

822
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: Bowl year when they wanted in twenty fifteen.

823
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: Right, I'll say a few years later they win that thing.

824
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: It's just the legendary for the Broncos. I mean, does

825
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: it bother you that much that you were a part

826
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: of that that that two.

827
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: Bowl in Not really, you know, I think.

828
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: I think my story was just my story, and you know,

829
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: my journey was my journey.

830
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: And I never get caught up in it.

831
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: I think at at the time, I was so connected

832
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: to so many guys on the team. A lot of

833
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: them were calling me after the fact, and I was

834
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: calling them and congratulating.

835
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: Them, and I was still connected to the team. I

836
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: felt like I was a part of it.

837
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: And on some level at that point, you just gonna

838
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: be a QC man. Yeah, like keep buy behind the lines,

839
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: right man, you know right.

840
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: But nobody offered me those jobs.

841
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: Nobody even offered me to play safety, And maybe I

842
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: should have just demanded it, but you know, I was,

843
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: I was at the back end of my career anyway,

844
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm actually happy that I played all my

845
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: fifteen years at corner at corner and I did it

846
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: at a high level. So I'm proud of that. But

847
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: in highsight, No I have I have no regrets. I'm

848
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: just happy that I'm a part of a franchise that

849
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: appreciates people like me to this day and you know,

850
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: anything that they win, I feel like I'm a part

851
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: of absolutely.

852
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: That's like I said Rare Air, we talked about you know,

853
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: we were we were thirty when you retired. I just

854
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: had my I was thirty six. I am thirty six

855
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: this year and I'm over here loving practice. I'm like,

856
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: it's crazy to think the late like the later season

857
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: you got, you saw like, you know, guys like man, man,

858
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm sore, gee like I brom banged up.

859
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, so tell, I do have a question.

860
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 3: I got a question for you though, because I'm Peyton

861
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 3: was one way and I don't think.

862
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: There's anybody like him, right, What was it?

863
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 4: Like you you saw our condition chests crazy doing participating CrossFit,

864
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: but I saw nobody an't nobody messing with that?

865
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: And now he's all like I'm calling my boys over dinner,

866
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: like yo, what's conditioning? Like He's like, na, we sort

867
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: of just you know, we paid atention to the metrics and.

868
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: That it was unnecessary.

869
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 3: Bro.

870
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were the we were the older child. You

871
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you know how you your

872
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: parents have an older child, we go through jail and

873
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: high water, and then you have that last child and

874
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: they loved going it like you like he ain't got

875
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: a curvefield, he ain't got to do rolles, but they

876
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: get some of the process. That's that's what differ is

877
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I'm saying, They can all

878
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: the good without all the trials and tribulations. Like he's

879
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: already find out his cultivated techniques of what it is now.

880
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Like the game when he first started was you know,

881
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: it was two a days, was those grinder you know,

882
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: practice hit in the morning and hit at night. And

883
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: then by the time I got there, it was just

884
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: like hit in the morning and I walk through. But

885
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: it felt like we were still practicing. And now it's

886
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: like a pure like hey, dial back practice and then

887
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: like hey, we'll take care of you.

888
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah man, yeah, it's good for them. I guess he's

889
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: drown up.

890
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, we'll be right back. Tell me about your movie, man,

891
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: like I heard about it this week. Yeah, we're here

892
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: to push your movie. That I got out excited because

893
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: the kid in me was like, damn, this is champ.

894
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: He was a part of my team and I got

895
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: to see gradies.

896
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: But about your movie, man, well, the movie is called

897
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 3: Signing Tony Raymond and advice.

898
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: You know what, it's a few things.

899
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: One, don't pull up to Tony's house if it's Stepdad's

900
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: knocked there.

901
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: You get there and it's just mama. Ain't no telling

902
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: him what you're gonna find. That should be back in

903
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: that now.

904
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: It's about this high school coach that has to he

905
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: has to find a way to sign this five star athlete,

906
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 3: Tony Raymond, and he's jumping through all these obstacles, dealing

907
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: with family. But in order to save his job, he

908
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: got to sign his kid. So it takes place in

909
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: rural Alabama.

910
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: It was all.

911
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: Filmed here in Georgia, Georgia Investors, everything, everything about it

912
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: is Georgia Brown.

913
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: But for the story, it takes.

914
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: Place in rural Alabama and the moment he shows up,

915
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: he's just dealing with the family. The mama is a

916
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: little wacky. Stepdad is, you know, trying to manipulate him

917
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: for the money.

918
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: Bag man come bring him from.

919
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: You know, it's just a lot of a lot of

920
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: what we saw when we were recruited back in the

921
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: day before n I l but then also the idea

922
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: of nil and what it means.

923
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: So it's a really good story. And it's more.

924
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: The thing is, some of these things will resonate with

925
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: you because you probably dealt with it as a as

926
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: a high school athlete, right.

927
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: I'll say with you, because you were you were like

928
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: a five star prospect. You know, you want to drop

929
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: his bag off here in the front the front, brother

930
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: to the side. So as a free star prospect, I

931
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: didn't have that.

932
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: So but what but what I love about it and

933
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: what what really made me buy into it was it

934
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: it just wasn't just about the game, because there's really

935
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: no football highlights in the movie or football like, it's

936
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: really no football stuff on family Like, it's all about

937
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: the story behind the scenes and what's going on trying

938
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: to sign this kid and all the things that this

939
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: recruiter is trying to to do to get this kid

940
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: to sign with his school.

941
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: Now, the talent that we have in this movie.

942
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: Mirro Sorbino Academy Award winner Rob Morgan, I mean, another

943
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: acclaimed actor, Michael Mosley, I mean our lead character and

944
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 3: Jackie k who plays Tony Raymond. But we also got

945
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: Marshawn Lynch in the movie like it ain't getting no call.

946
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: So the next one you number one on the list, Yes,

947
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: so I got.

948
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: I got a cameo from Tequillo Spikes, Charles Woodson, Richard Sherman,

949
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: you know, Jesse Palmer, Harry Douglas and the Boses.

950
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: In the movie. Brian Bosworth in the movie Out There

951
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: printers on T shirts. He is well.

952
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: First of all, when I went to Austin, Texas for

953
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: the film festival, he lives in Austin out of all

954
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: places being in Oklahoma soon. Uh so I never understood that,

955
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: but you know, he said he loves it there. But

956
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: we're there and we're talking, we're doing this thing. I

957
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: did this one hundred yards with Champ. It's more like

958
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: a walk and talk and one of the best people

959
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: I've been around.

960
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: You know, filming this movie.

961
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: So one I got said film in this movie, Like,

962
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: how how deeply involved were you? I was like, Georgia

963
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: grown It sounded like you was an e p P.

964
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: I was. I was executive. I was an executive producer.

965
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: I helped get some of the talent. Obviously, all the

966
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 3: guys I named, you know, I helped bring them to

967
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 3: the table, and they.

968
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: All these texts.

969
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 2: They all didn't need a favor.

970
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: Like it was, you know, I'm I'm just happy that

971
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: they obliged. Man, it was I got to give them credit.

972
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: Without them, I don't think it'd be as special as

973
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: it is. But when they said action and cut.

974
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with that. I was not.

975
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: I was not.

976
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: The writer director is Glenn Owen.

977
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: He used to play basketball at Georgia, but he's been

978
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: in the filmmaking business for years, so this is his

979
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: biggest feature film as well. He's worked on smaller projects

980
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: and we all had mutual connections, and that's how I

981
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: got to the film. I knew I had to have

982
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: real experts running this thing, becauseg this thing has been

983
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: three years in the making now. He wrote the script

984
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: maybe ten twelve years ago, right, updated it as he went.

985
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: But I came on board about three years ago. And

986
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: that's why now I'm so excited about it because it's

987
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: actually released this Friday, January sixteenth, and this is the

988
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: first time I've ever done anything like this. I'm but

989
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: you know how it is, man, We don't walk into

990
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: rooms pretending we know everything.

991
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: You let the experts be the experts.

992
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: You play your role. So I just played my role

993
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: whatever they asked of me. That meant they thought I

994
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: could do it. So this when out step in, So

995
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: I didn't have a lot of a lot to do

996
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 3: with the actual filming. But you know, getting people together,

997
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: the investors.

998
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: All the relationships.

999
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 3: Guy, pull things together and now here I am talking

1000
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 3: about it and it's a finished product. So it's it's

1001
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: one of those films, man, anybody can watch it. I mean,

1002
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: I think it's PG. Thirteen, So it's a good family,

1003
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: family movie. And I think who were to resonate with

1004
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: most it's moms that are dealing with this, because there's

1005
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: a lot of single moms out there dealing with their

1006
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 3: kid being recruited and.

1007
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: How to deal with it.

1008
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: And ultimately you will see the story go to the

1009
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: part where it's not about the money, it's not about

1010
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: anything except the relationships and really just taking advantage of

1011
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 3: the space you're in and also being nurtured and people

1012
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: caring about what you are into. That'll make sense when

1013
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: you watch it. But yeah, man, it's a great movie.

1014
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: Everybody that's watched it say, I was surprised by the

1015
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: comedy but also by the story.

1016
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: It just it's one of those that it'll tug on

1017
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: those strings a little bit more than you would expect.

1018
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: No doubt, I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna take wife,

1019
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: you to it. I don't know about the kids. The

1020
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: kids if it's not action, but not a lot not

1021
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: you know. You know right now they're big in the

1022
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: zombies for and I got three girls. If they can't

1023
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: dance to it, they're like, what are we doing? You know?

1024
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: But my son is locked in, So I think I

1025
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: think wife and my son and go see because that

1026
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: man is he's like, yo, you know, granddad was a

1027
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: football player. Dad's a footele player. I'm a football player,

1028
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: but there's other sports and that go be a doctor,

1029
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: be a lawyer. But anyways, I appreciate you for stopping

1030
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: on the pod. I know I done kept you longer

1031
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: than I'm in too. But everything you do, Bro, it's

1032
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: legendary you these side these side missions.

1033
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: Bro, you're dude.

1034
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: You retire, it's gonna be so much stuff that come

1035
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 3: at you, and you've gotta have to figure out what

1036
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: I what you're taking like and as things I don't

1037
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: I don't turn anything away, like let me see it,

1038
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: let me read, and then I just say yes or no,

1039
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: like it is what it is. And I think people

1040
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: appreciate that because I feel like football prepared me for everything.

1041
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: And I'd be damn if I'm not gonna look at

1042
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: everything that I want to look at and take advantage

1043
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: of it if it makes sense for.

1044
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Sure, he ain't you willing to do the work? Signing

1045
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: Tony Raymond this week? I'm excited. I'm excited just to

1046
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: be talking to you, legendary Hall of famer. Of course,

1047
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: everything that you do is it has been a standard

1048
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: or staple for the next generations to look at. So

1049
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming by the pod. Uh, you know, shout

1050
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: out to the listeners. Get your get your podcast anywhere

1051
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: you can. iHeart radio, app Apple podcasts, all podcasts for platforms,

1052
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: and of course we're on NFL's YouTube page. I'm Cam

1053
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: Jordan off the Edge, just my dog Champ, Bailey the Champ.

1054
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, bro, I ain't the only Hall of

1055
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 3: Fame on this podcast.

1056
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: Talking to fruition. Bro.

1057
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: Hey, it's it's gonna happen. Don't even worry about it.

1058
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Give them part