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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and

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Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. We are getting you guys ready with a

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Speaker 1: two hour preview of the seahawks upcoming game, this one

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Speaker 1: at lumin Field one twenty five pm kickoff against the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. They're eight and two. Before we look ahead

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Speaker 1: to Arizona, though, let's look back very briefly. I know,

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Speaker 1: to the loss against the Packers that went on the

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Speaker 1: road at Lambo seventeen oh, first time since twenty eleven

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks were shut out. It was a bad day

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Speaker 1: on offense, as would be obvious by the final score.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson twenty forty one sixty one, two interceptions. Defense

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Speaker 1: though pretty solid, pretty good day for defense, including Jamal

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Speaker 1: Adams getting his very first interception as a Seahawks. So

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Speaker 1: let's start there, Dave, would you like from defense? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they covered really well and a couple times they were

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Speaker 1: dropping eight and only Russian three, which sometimes that works out,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. But I thought, you look like Aaron

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Speaker 1: first interception. He apologized to Quandre Diggs for that, and

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Speaker 1: we talked to Diggs this week and he said they

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Speaker 1: switched because typically he's the guy that's in, you know,

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Speaker 1: he apologizes to Quandri and Quandris like, bro, just appreciate

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Speaker 1: and love and have fun with your interception, man, right. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So he broke the seal on that, and he's only

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Speaker 1: got four more to go. He told us, he told

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Speaker 1: us five interceptions, five interceptions, twelve and a half sacks,

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Speaker 1: so he's got eat going on the sacks. But I thought, speaking,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too specific, but Jamal Adams

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Speaker 1: that's really good. He got a couple of hits. He

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Speaker 1: got away with one on Aaron Rodgers. He hit him

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Speaker 1: a little bit. He didn't complain or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: but shocking. Yeah. So um, yeah, that the defense looked

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Speaker 1: me like he just was out of sorts. He's never

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Speaker 1: been in that situation before. He's never missed games during

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Speaker 1: the regular season. And I look today, the longest pass

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Speaker 1: he completed was to DK Metcalf, which just a crossing

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Speaker 1: pattern for seventeen yards forward for a yard. But like

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Speaker 1: the longest play of the day was a three yard

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Speaker 1: pass to Will Disley who took it for what twenty

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Speaker 1: nine or something. So yeah, I love the way that

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Speaker 1: they started using the tight ends. Yeah, the defense gave

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Speaker 1: up those final scores in the fourth, making it a

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Speaker 1: seventeen point game for the Packers, in part because the

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Speaker 1: Packers dominated time of possession almost two to one. It

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Speaker 1: was thirty nine minutes on the field for the Packers

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Speaker 1: offense to just twenty minutes of Seattle For use to that,

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Speaker 1: Jake's yeah, yeah, that's one unfortunate trend for the season. Jake,

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Speaker 1: Let's look at the offense. Because Seattle's offense, they couldn't convert,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't score, and you had two huge mistakes that

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Speaker 1: might have just made the game for Russell Wilson. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what'd you see on that side of the ball. Well,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. You know, it's been saying that all week

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Speaker 1: that I don't believe it. I don't think it was

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Speaker 1: him play more like himself. But there are a couple

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Speaker 1: of factors. Number one is the interceptions. You can't have

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Speaker 1: those interceptions when they showed up, I mean just just

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Speaker 1: You finally put together a ten play drive. It was

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Speaker 1: don't do that because you know you have the points.

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Speaker 1: Throw it away. Let it be a three three ball game,

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Speaker 1: and you actually develop some momentum there. Offensively, you get

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Speaker 1: We want points and we'll get back to it. But

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Speaker 1: And then you get down to, you know, around eight

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Speaker 1: minutes left in the game, and Russell is forcing a

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Speaker 1: ball down the field to Tyler Lockett, second interception, and

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Speaker 1: then that leads to a following drive where it becomes

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Speaker 1: done with at that point. So those interceptions, the decision

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Speaker 1: making it clear too, he just wants to see more

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Speaker 1: rush attempts at least moving forward. Alex Collins had just

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Speaker 1: they're playing when they fall behind, Yeah, that's that's going

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Speaker 1: to stay that way, right, They're going to try to

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Speaker 1: pass to speed up the game, speed up those drives

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Speaker 1: and score. But I was certainly surprised they didn't run

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Speaker 1: don't have Chris Carson, but Alex Collins has been solid. Now,

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Speaker 1: Collins did have a groin injury that he'd been dealing with,

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Speaker 1: was limited in practice, but I mean Rashad Penny didn't

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Speaker 1: So I'd certainly expect more carries against Arizona. But what

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Speaker 1: back to our interviews. John Boyle, a Seahawks reporter, is

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Speaker 1: followed by Michael Bumpus at one to kick off hour

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Speaker 1: two of the huddle, So we'll have plenty to talk

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Speaker 1: about taking a look at the team first, though, let's

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Speaker 1: speak to the team itself. Carry Hyder Jr. And John

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Speaker 1: This is the huddle. This is the huddle at Dave Wyman,

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Speaker 1: Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross. We're going to be joined

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Speaker 1: here in just a minute by defensive lineman Carry Hider Junior.

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Speaker 1: Following him, we're going to speak to linebacker John Radigan,

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Speaker 1: who has been stellar on special teams. Very excited for

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Speaker 1: both of these interviews. Glad we're taking a defensive approach too,

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Speaker 1: because what the Seahawks have in store this week is

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Speaker 1: facing Kyler Murray, who has been phenomenal so far with Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Now We're gonna go across enemy lines and have an

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Speaker 1: opponent preview with ESPN Cardinals reporter Josh Weinfuss later in

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Speaker 1: the show, and we'll be asking him about Murray's status

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Speaker 1: right now. Guys, if I had to guess, if I

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Speaker 1: Even you know, let's let's talk about just having Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray out there, even if he's not fully healthy. What

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Speaker 1: kind of challenge does he bring these defenses? In particular,

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Speaker 1: how about football? One on one radio one on one,

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Speaker 1: great job, executed it so quickly. It's always a nightmare

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Speaker 1: when for a linebacker, when you have a guy that

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady honestly, I I it was just such a chore.

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Speaker 1: Like if you run man to man, you you have

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Speaker 1: kind of how the NFL is, I'm learning, you know,

425
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Speaker 1: how the game is. It's a little bit different in

426
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Speaker 1: the professional world, and you're going to be missing some

427
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Speaker 1: of your key players weekend and week out, and um,

428
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Speaker 1: you know, I think that's affected us a little bit,

429
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Speaker 1: but overall, I mean I wouldn't say that the morale

430
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 1: or um, you know, our our intentions are are any

431
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: less just because we're three and six football team right now.

432
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of these games could have gone

433
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Speaker 1: the other way. So um, we certainly still part of

434
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Speaker 1: a good football team. And it's it's been a it's

435
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: been a blessing personally. You know. I used to watch

436
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Speaker 1: that show a season with Navy, and I always thought

437
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 1: that the Service guys are so much more disciplined and

438
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: so much you know, easier to coach because they're used

439
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: to it and everything. How much being at an army

440
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Speaker 1: and just in that situation does that help you in

441
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Speaker 1: football be disciplined, hard working, all those things. Yeah, I can.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I mean I think, uh,

443
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Speaker 1: I think it was just a different lifestyle my college career.

444
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Speaker 1: You know, in the four years I was at West Point,

445
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 1: it was definitely a little bit different than than the typical,

446
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Speaker 1: you know, a D one football player. So I got

447
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Speaker 1: a lot of similar experiences with these guys in terms

448
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Speaker 1: of playing college football. But on top of that, you know,

449
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Speaker 1: I feel like I have developed myself to be a

450
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Speaker 1: lot more discipline and you know, just just going about

451
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Speaker 1: my day. This is kind of what I've been used to.

452
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Speaker 1: This is what I've been doing for four years is

453
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Speaker 1: to show up and go to work regardless of what's

454
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Speaker 1: put in front of me. So um, to have this

455
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Speaker 1: opportunity as a blessing, and you know, to have the

456
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Speaker 1: opportunity to go to and graduate from West Point was

457
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Speaker 1: was just amazing and it's done me wonders and I'm

458
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Speaker 1: certainly paying off now, you know, being a rookie in

459
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Speaker 1: the NFL. John, The thing that's been crazy about your journey,

460
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Speaker 1: your experience so far as a pro is you know,

461
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Speaker 1: you were one of the names that I had heard

462
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Speaker 1: about within the building that everyone was really excited about. Hey,

463
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: watch out for this guy. He's got a real chance

464
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Speaker 1: to make the team, even though he's undrafted free agent.

465
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Speaker 1: Then you're hurt. Then you're hurt pretty much the entire

466
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Speaker 1: offseason and you only get one game, one shot in

467
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Speaker 1: the preseason, and you made it the most of it.

468
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Speaker 1: What was your mentality throughout that process and then finally

469
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Speaker 1: getting a chance to show what you could do. Yeah,

470
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Speaker 1: it was certainly a wild experience and that was something. Uh,

471
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, adversity is going to come throughout my football career.

472
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: So much adversity has come, and I feel like that's

473
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Speaker 1: the same for everybody that's reached this level. Um, but

474
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Speaker 1: that was something that totally caught me by surprise. You know,

475
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: I was not anticipating that I was going to be injured.

476
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Speaker 1: I was on anticipating missing any time because like you said,

477
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Speaker 1: I'm an undrafted guy, and to be honest, you know,

478
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Speaker 1: we don't have you can't you can't miss any practices, um,

479
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Speaker 1: if you want to make the team. And UM, you know,

480
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Speaker 1: going into that last preseason game, I was really looking

481
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Speaker 1: forward to the first preseason game. I wanted to be back,

482
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Speaker 1: and then uh, you know, I didn't really recover as

483
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Speaker 1: well as I needed to, and I wanted to be

484
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Speaker 1: back for the second one, and same thing. It just

485
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Speaker 1: kind of kept prolonging, and you know it was a

486
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Speaker 1: tough mental battle, I would say, just to start things

487
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Speaker 1: off here, but uh, you kind of you live and

488
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Speaker 1: you learn, and going into you know, game three, I

489
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: was still you know, I'm still out here. I still

490
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Speaker 1: have the opportunity to go in and practice every day.

491
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Speaker 1: And UM, while I was out, I was still doing

492
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Speaker 1: my best mentally to be ready for my chance. And

493
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: that was my chance, our third preseason game. I went

494
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Speaker 1: out there and and and did the best. I could

495
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: gave it my all. You know, you only get one shot,

496
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: so bring a rockety launcher. Hey hey John. Going back

497
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Speaker 1: to to Dave's question for you about um, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: kind of uh working out you know with West Point

499
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Speaker 1: and not kind of setting you up for success in

500
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Speaker 1: a different way. Uh, what is the single hardest workout

501
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: you've ever had related to football? At West Point or

502
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: in the pros. I would definitely say at West Point, Um,

503
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: all of all, all of the Army football boys could

504
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: could agree, Matt drills is probably the hardest thing we've

505
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Speaker 1: ever had to do, which is just our winter conditioning. Um,

506
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: we've you know, you know how college coaching works. Guys

507
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: will come in and out in terms of uh, you know, coaches,

508
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: position changes, all that, all that kind of stuff, and

509
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: just talking to different people that would come in, especially

510
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Speaker 1: because our my senior year we had a new defensive

511
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: staff and when they came in and we did our

512
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: first winter conditioning going into my senior year, they were

513
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: just like, I've never seen anything like this. It's definitely

514
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: it's just top tier and we get after it in

515
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: the off seasons out there. So I would have to

516
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: say there's like a two week period before spring break

517
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Speaker 1: that we do our winter conditioning, and I would say

518
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: all of those, there's not one day that's any easier

519
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Speaker 1: than the other. Those were all very hard work out.

520
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Speaker 1: So I'll still remember those for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: Hey John, it was so cool when they signed you

522
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Speaker 1: to the roster and you know, you were I think,

523
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, possibly going to be making um, you know,

524
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: practice squad money, and then all of a sudden, you know,

525
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: you get the big check. Man. I mean it was that.

526
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Speaker 1: I know for me, it was like it was it

527
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: was like Monopoly money. Like it was just like, I

528
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: can't believe somebody is going to pay me to play

529
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: a game that I love. Tell us tell us your

530
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: reaction to that when that happened, right, No, I totally

531
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Speaker 1: agree with that. I mean, um, money, money. You know,

532
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Speaker 1: I never wanted money to be the complete motivation right

533
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Speaker 1: to playing playing in the NFL, because I think if

534
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: that's the case, you know, you're not going to give

535
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: it your all, and if you're not passionate about something,

536
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: you're never gonna truly succeed in it. So uh, you know,

537
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: but certainly money's a factor, right, and we all got

538
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: to make a living somehow, and um, just to be

539
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: to be making more money than I would had I

540
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: uh normally you know, graduate from West Point and not

541
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Speaker 1: played football. Um, I'm definitely you know, I'm blessed, I'm fortunate,

542
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: and I'm very thankful for this opportunity. Um, because I

543
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: was you know, just making practice squad money is great

544
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: and uh, you know when I got signed to the

545
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: active roster, I now now you know, this is what

546
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Speaker 1: I want to do. I want to I want to

547
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: be I want to be on this level and I

548
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: want to be making this much money because you know,

549
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: there's just it opens up the doors for a lot

550
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: more opportunities and a lot more opportunities for me to

551
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: help people. Um, you know, because I feel I feel

552
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: very fortunate, like you said, to be playing a game

553
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: that I love, uh and making you know the amount

554
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: of money that we do. Hey, John, we wish we

555
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: had more time with you. Man. You've just been such

556
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: a blast to talk to you. But we really really

557
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And good luck this weekend. Yeah, no doubt,

558
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on. I appreciate you guys

559
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah all right, that was linebacker at John

560
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: Radigan Shocking news did not note the song from Great

561
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: Mouse Detective related news was born in nineteen ninety nine,

562
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: so those two things something like eighty nine, ten years

563
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: before he was born nineteen ninety nine. And here he

564
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: is driving and talking like we've never watched The Great

565
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Mouse Detective. We're talking about three different generations. And also

566
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Speaker 1: if he had recognized that, I would have thought lesser

567
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: of him, same in a weird way. Not Curtis, though

568
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: Curtis very disappointed. Yeah, I mean I had been banking

569
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: his entire existence on the Seahawks roster on him knowing

570
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: how old were you when I was only just not

571
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: born yet, but my sisters were so wait it was Oh,

572
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: I was born in ninety one, Fantastic movies, my third

573
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: year in the NFL. I was born. Thank you, Stacy,

574
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: that you depending on the month, depending on the month, day, Okay, anyways, well,

575
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Speaker 1: we will be back here with Seahawks dot Com reporter

576
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: John Boyle. This is the Huddle. Don't go anywhere. Welcome

577
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, j Keeves and Stacy

578
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: Ross wrapping up Hour one, Getting Ready for Hour Too

579
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: or two hour Seahawks preview of the seahawks upcoming game

580
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: against the Arizona Cardinals. Joining us now for a look

581
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Speaker 1: at this team where they stand heading out of that

582
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Speaker 1: loss against the Packers is Seahawks Dot Com reporter John Boyle, John,

583
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Speaker 1: how are you? I am doing good, Stacy, but I'm

584
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: going to apologize in advance if you get any weird

585
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: baby noises because I'm homesick with or home working from home,

586
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: so hopefully I can keep her quiet, but no guarantees.

587
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: I hope she gets better. So yeah, same, same. We'll

588
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: start with a very quick lookback, since I'm sure fans

589
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: don't want to spend too much time on it. But

590
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: it was an ugly game offensively, and then a great

591
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: game defensively against Green Bay. Uh, what do you think?

592
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: You know? Offensively has the greatest chance to improve against

593
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, who are admittedly a tough defense. I mean,

594
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot of things that needs to get better. Obviously,

595
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: when you get shut out, a lot of things go wrong.

596
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: We heard Pete Carroll talk about they need to run

597
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: the ball more. I mean, only eleven carries for running

598
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: backs is not ideal for this offense. And then I

599
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: mean throwing him needs to get better too. It Russell Wilson,

600
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, was the first to admit a lot of

601
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: that losses on him. He did not play very well.

602
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: He threw two interceptions, which and what at the time

603
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: is a you know, one score game, a three point game.

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00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Throwing an interception the red zone is pretty big blow.

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00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: So you know, they got to get him sharper. I

606
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: don't know if it was just some rust from being

607
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: out that long. You know, he and Pete Carroll bow

608
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 1: consisted it was not related to his finger injury. But

609
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: they obviously need their quarterback to be better, and they

610
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: just need to function better in a lot of ways.

611
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: Sustained some drives down that fields, help that defense out. Yeah,

612
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: somebody pointed out and I thought it was totally I

613
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: trust Pete and I agree with him that it wasn't

614
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: the finger. It was just being sort of out of sorts.

615
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: And you saw the same thing with Aaron Rodgers in

616
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Speaker 1: the first half. He was kind of the same way.

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Speaker 1: Did you notice anything different. Somebody was telling me that

618
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Speaker 1: Russ was not himself because typically he's going up and

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Speaker 1: down the sidelines and encouraging people, and this time he

620
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: just looked kind of kind of I don't want to say, confused,

621
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Speaker 1: But yeah, from what you heard and from Pete and everything,

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Speaker 1: it seems like John that it was just more, like

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Speaker 1: you said, the rust more than anything, because he's never

624
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Speaker 1: experienced this before. Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, he's

625
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: never had a long layoff in the middle of the

626
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Speaker 1: season like that. Ye. I'm guessing he hasn't gone three

627
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Speaker 1: or four weeks without throwing a football literally in his

628
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: life first picked up a football, So good point. I

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Speaker 1: think that's that's probably the biggest stack there. And then look,

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00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense is really good. Russell Wilson and the

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00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: Seahawks offense have never played particularly well there, so I

632
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: think you know, to expect them to come out and

633
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: hang up thirty points in that game is probably not realistic.

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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: Should they have been better, should they score some points, absolutely,

635
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Speaker 1: But I think there's just a ton of factors that

636
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Speaker 1: play and it's not fair to just say Elway's finger,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it right? John? One of the other aspects of

638
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: this game is, and the reason why it stings so much,

639
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: is because it was such a close game for so

640
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Speaker 1: long and the defense played so unbelievably well. What have

641
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Speaker 1: you made of this defensive turnaround at this point in

642
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Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, you know, I think we might have

643
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: talked about this last week. I was really looking forward

644
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Speaker 1: to this game to see, you know, how much of

645
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Speaker 1: what the defense has done is real, because they've played

646
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: really well or some weeks, but they certainly not played

647
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Speaker 1: a quarterback to caliber Aaron Rodgers, a duo like Roger

648
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Speaker 1: Stone to Davante Adams, and you just wondered, you know,

649
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Speaker 1: how real is this Well we saw on Sunday, it's

650
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Speaker 1: very room. I mean, they played a great game. They

651
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: did give up the two late touchdowns, but you know

652
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: that's tough when you're on the field as much as

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Speaker 1: they were, and it just caught up to them. And

654
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, they've got a couple of light scores. But

655
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Speaker 1: I just think we've seen so many things clean up.

656
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Speaker 1: The coverage has been so much better, especially you know,

657
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Speaker 1: I think the changes they made a cornerback have really

658
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: paid dividends. And you know, Jamal Adams is playing better

659
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: in tandem with Quandary Digs. Just the whole back ends

660
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: and been so much cleaner. So yeah, you know, if

661
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Speaker 1: there's something good to be taken out of a shutout loss,

662
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Speaker 1: that's that's how well that defense played and against one

663
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: of the great quarterbacks really of all times. So it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a very encouraging step for this defense, and

665
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Speaker 1: it makes you believe that, you know, if this offense

666
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Speaker 1: can figure things out, and given the talent there, I

667
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: think they can that all of a sudden, this team

668
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: could get hot and won a bunch of games with

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Speaker 1: the defense playing like that. Pee Carroll made it clear

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Speaker 1: he wants to see more carries than just eleven for

671
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Speaker 1: Alex Collins. Do you also get the impression he wants

672
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Speaker 1: to see more than just Alex Collins carrying the ball?

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Speaker 1: I do. I think some of the comments about Roshaut Penny,

674
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Speaker 1: they'd like to see him get going. It's, you know,

675
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Speaker 1: it's been a tough year for Penny and he just

676
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, with injuries and then damnel, the fine chances

677
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Speaker 1: getting him going in the game, you know, I do

678
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Speaker 1: think we'll still see calling start. And that's where you

679
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Speaker 1: just you need to get more plays. You need to

680
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Speaker 1: figure out whether it's the running game or just converting

681
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: more short passes things like that. But it's hard to

682
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Speaker 1: get that running game going and get multiple backs involved

683
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Speaker 1: when you're you know, one. I think they might be

684
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Speaker 1: dead last or near the bottom of plays run offensive

685
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: plays run in the NFL, So you know, figure out

686
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Speaker 1: a way to keep some drives going, keep the offense

687
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Speaker 1: on the field, and then yeah, there's a chance to

688
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Speaker 1: get more backs going. What do you hear about LJ. Callier, John,

689
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Speaker 1: That's been another one kind of like Penny both you know,

690
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: similar paths for shrounders, you know, and not necessarily working

691
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Speaker 1: out the way that they would like it. But he

692
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Speaker 1: was he was playing the other day and I'm just

693
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Speaker 1: curious what the word is about his play and you

694
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: know where this season ends up for LJ. Callier. Yes,

695
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Speaker 1: it's give me interesting to see how they use him

696
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Speaker 1: down the stretch here because obviously, you know, he'd only

697
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Speaker 1: and active i think twice before this past game. All season,

698
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: he's been a healthy scratch more often than on. Pete

699
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Carroll was interesting. It kind of said, just look, he

700
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Speaker 1: deserves it. He's been working really hard, he's been doing

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Speaker 1: well in practice. Excuse me. Defensive coordinator Ken Norton Junior

702
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: said that he played well and grated out while in

703
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: that game. I mean, there weren't a bunch of the big,

704
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Speaker 1: flashy plays, but I do think, you know, maybe they're

705
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Speaker 1: looking for ways to get some more interior pass rush.

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Speaker 1: When Pete Carroll's asked about the pass rush on Wednesday,

707
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Speaker 1: that's one thing he pointed to. They've been going so big,

708
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Speaker 1: which has been really good for their run defense. But

709
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Speaker 1: when you've got Brian Money, Alwoods and putting forward on

710
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Speaker 1: the field all at the same time, that's not necessarily

711
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Speaker 1: getting you a ton of pass rush. So maybe they

712
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Speaker 1: see Collier as a guy that in one of those

713
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Speaker 1: big interior spots can get hilling more pass rush in

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Speaker 1: some situations. You know, John, one of the things that

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Speaker 1: has been pointed out has been that screen game, and

716
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Speaker 1: have been asked to number of people on defense, Bobby,

717
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Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks, and to me, you look at some of

718
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Speaker 1: the things that has been going on, I honestly kind

719
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: of look at it as a positive in terms of

720
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: you're getting to a point where you're starting to fix

721
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: so many other things around you that you're starting to

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Speaker 1: actually get into a focal point here on one particular thing.

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Speaker 1: How how does that go to show the evolution that

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Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks just needs to continually keep working and progressing

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Speaker 1: to get better. Yeah, I mean that he talked about

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00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: that yesterday. That's kind of the He's made a lot

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Speaker 1: of progress overall in a lot of areas. I think

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00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: we've seen him a lot better and you know, dropping

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Speaker 1: into his own coverage and playing those those concepts that

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Speaker 1: the shots that could do. But they have been getting

731
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Speaker 1: burned on a lot of those screens. That's not just

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Speaker 1: on Jordan Brooks, but the weeks side linebacker is the guy.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times those plays kind of flow towards

734
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Speaker 1: and he's the guy who's got to stop it. It's

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Speaker 1: unfortunate for Brooks he's following in the shoes of probably

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Speaker 1: the best screen stopping linebacker we've ever seen here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe Dave Wyman was a little before my time. He

738
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Speaker 1: might have been on par with kJ right, but it's tough.

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Speaker 1: So he's got big shoes to fill. He's gonna get better,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's gonna be a big focus. Bobby Wagner

741
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: is going to help him get better at that. But yeah,

742
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Speaker 1: I mean your point, I think that's a good sign

743
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: that if that's the one thing you're worried about right now,

744
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: it look teams would much rather be throwing fifty yard

745
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: bombs down the field than checking down to screens if

746
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: they were able to get those easy on a defense,

747
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: and Seahawks have been taking a lot of things away,

748
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: but unfortunately that's sort of been the one week spot

749
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Speaker 1: in these last few games. He is Seahawks dot Com

750
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: reporter John Boyle. Make sure you're reading his work at

751
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks dot com. John, thanks so much for joining us.

752
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, all right, I hope your kid

753
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: gets better. Give our best yep, and thanks for keeping

754
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: a straight face when you mentioned my name is one

755
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: of the all time greatest. I mean, no one can

756
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: see my face, which is helpful. Yeah, that that helps?

757
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Speaker 1: That helps? All right? All right. Normally we would go

758
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: in the trenches with Ray Roberts to kickoff hour or two,

759
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: but filling in for Ray's former sex wide receiver current

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Speaker 1: Seahawks pre and postgame show host Michael Bumpus, that's next

761
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: on the huddle. This is the Huddle with Dave Wyman,

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Speaker 1: Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross calling us now from Crypto

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Speaker 1: dot Com arena in Los Angeles, calif Mornia. It is

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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus. Bump what's up? What's going on Crypto dot

765
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: com arena? That hurts my heart. It's been Staples since

766
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Speaker 1: I was in eighth grade. I believe it opened in

767
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Speaker 1: two thousand. Native Sunday, Man, you are huge. You're everywhere,

768
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: like you're flying down to the Bay Area. What are

769
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Speaker 1: you doing down there? Bump Um? I do the show

770
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Speaker 1: called PAC twelve after Dart and go to San Francisco,

771
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: usually me, Shane Vereen and guy. We sit there and

772
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: we talk football. Man, we talk about the PAC twel Wow. Hey,

773
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Speaker 1: every time I turn on my TV or my radio,

774
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Speaker 1: it's Michael Bumpus. That's huge man, reason with good reason.

775
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: In fact, you can hear him on the Seahawks pre

776
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: and postgame show steering that ship. Make sure you tune

777
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: in before and after the game. Good stuff as always.

778
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Speaker 1: Bump joining us though on the huddle. Before you get

779
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Speaker 1: to that this weekend, I want to start with DK Metcalf.

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00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: It's not just because you're a former wide receiver, but

781
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: he's obviously one of the most important parts of this

782
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: team and in a huge figure for this team moving forward.

783
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't seem that happy this year. I mean, how

784
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Speaker 1: do you kind of read into what the experience has

785
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: been like for him? You know? I take what he

786
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: said during his pressor's Stace and say he's tired to

787
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: lose him. He's not used to this. You know, this

788
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: is his third year with the team, and this team

789
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: has had a lot of success, So it has to

790
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: be frustrating for a guy, especially a guy who's ascending

791
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: into superstardom. Right. He has a character, he has an

792
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: image that he has to uphold, and the Hawks losing

793
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: is hurting him. He's a team guy. It's all about

794
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: the wins and stuff, but this is a business as well,

795
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: and if the Hawks aren't doing well, it hurts his

796
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Speaker 1: personal brands. I want to say that has something to

797
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: do with it, but I also think that he's a

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Speaker 1: competitor and he's just frustrating and he's letting everybody know

799
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Speaker 1: that things got to change or he will not be

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Speaker 1: a happy camper. What do you think about the way

801
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray plays plays quarterback? I thought he was

802
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: kind of on maybe on the babble there for a while,

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Speaker 1: not not as far as getting cut, but as far

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Speaker 1: as like, it's this guy gonna be a superstar? Is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be a franchise quarterback? And I gotta say

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00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: on seventy three percent completion percentage, so what's been your

807
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Speaker 1: impressions going into this Arizona game? Checking out Kyler murray

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Speaker 1: Man one, you know, the obvious Dave. This guy can

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Speaker 1: get outside the pocket, do some great things with his feet.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like he's a creative player out there. I

811
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Speaker 1: used to play Madden with Vic, and you know you're

812
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Speaker 1: sending all your guys on vertical routes and you just

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Speaker 1: run with Vic on third and short. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like he has that same ability. But the

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Speaker 1: thing that impresses me the most with this kid now

816
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Speaker 1: is just his touch. Man. He threw a football. I

817
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: forgot what team who they're playing against, but it was

818
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Speaker 1: to the sideline. It was to aj Green. It was

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Speaker 1: a Cover two honeyhole shot is what I call it.

820
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: Is when the outside receiver outside released that Cover two

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Speaker 1: corner and there's like a using eight to ten yard

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Speaker 1: gap between the corner and that safety. You gotta be

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Speaker 1: on time to make that throw. I mean, he made

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Speaker 1: it look so easy. I'm like, I'm seeing him making

825
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: throws like that to where he's becoming a true quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So to me, it's his arms. The legs are always

827
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Speaker 1: going to be impressive as long as he's young. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a weapon of his. But the type of

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Speaker 1: throws he makes, the touch throws, the honeyhole shots, he

830
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Speaker 1: can drive it in there as well. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: got a lot of tricks in his bag. Bum. The

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Speaker 1: big question right now with this team is not defense.

833
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Speaker 1: That was the talk of the conversation to start the season.

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Speaker 1: They've turned they've turned things around offensively, they still have

835
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Speaker 1: not been able to get things going. And obviously the

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Speaker 1: return of Russell Wilson, everyone was hoping that that would

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Speaker 1: be the spark. It was not. But what do they

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Speaker 1: need to do to be able to get themselves getting

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Speaker 1: in the right direction to finish this season out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's all about putting drive together and putting plays together,

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Speaker 1: and unique Chris Carson to be healthy. I think people

842
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Speaker 1: are seeing. I think the true fans already knew how

843
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: important Chris Carson was, but especially in the stretch him

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Speaker 1: not being there, you see how limited that run game is.

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Speaker 1: Alex Collins has done a good job feeling in, but

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Speaker 1: he's just a feeling. He's a number two guy. You

847
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Speaker 1: don't want to depend on this guy the whole season.

848
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: So you know, like we've been saying all year, like

849
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: he's been saying all year, they got to get the

850
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: run game going. And then does Russell being healthy. I mean,

851
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: Russell is going to say that he was one hundred

852
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: percent last week. I just don't think he was. I

853
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: see the throws that he missed. I'm looking at his

854
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: body language, is demeanor. Something seemed off. So I think

855
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: as soon as Russ gets back into his group and

856
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: Shane Waldron gets used to calling plays for Russell Wilson again,

857
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay, because before he got hurt,

858
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it seemed like they were moving in that direction.

859
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: Russell's getting to the line of scrimmas, He's checking out

860
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: of things, They're putting drives together, DK's making plays. Lock

861
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: is making plays, and then he gets hurt and it's

862
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: almost like Shane had to reset and say, okay, I

863
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: have a different type of quarterback. Now what type of

864
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: players am I gonna call an I'm missing my number

865
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: one running back. They're still trying to figure some things out,

866
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: but it's all about getting healthy and Shane and Russell

867
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: getting on the same page and having some connectivity. Hey, Bump,

868
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: when you're looking ahead to this matchup against the Arizona Cardinals.

869
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: They're a top ten team both offensively and defensively in

870
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: terms of just yardage. There are top five team number

871
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: four overall in terms of defensive yardage limited limiting opponents

872
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: to just three hundred and twenty three. Do you see

873
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: any opportunities for see all against this team. Yeah, it's

874
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. It's gonna be yeah. I mean against

875
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: against the run, their fifth excuse me, against the past,

876
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: the fifth against the run, their nineteenth overall, their fourth. Um,

877
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be tough. You look at the guys

878
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: that they have on defense. We know Wat is gone

879
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: and let me big ups to Watt because he got

880
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: hurt and he played with dang near his whole right

881
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: or left side is being done and finished the game.

882
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: So he's a soldier. But you look at the names

883
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: that they have over there. Man, they still got Chandler Jones. Um,

884
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: they still got Marcus Golden, you still got Simmons, you

885
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: got Murphy, you have Buddha Baker. I mean, they're they're

886
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: gonna be opportunities out there because this is football and

887
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: you know these are professionals, but you cannot make a

888
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes offensively because this team has shown that

889
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: they will get after they got eight interceptions. In that

890
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: second theory, I think it all comes down to just

891
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: being efficient and in your route running um having a plan.

892
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: There are a lot of times where I watch receivers,

893
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: and typically young receivers, UM, they're running their routes without

894
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: a plan. They're just running is in the playbook and

895
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: not understanding, Okay, here's my flight defender. I'm gonna move

896
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: him here because this is what the number one receivers

897
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: do them on the outside. I think when you have

898
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback who understands how to move with defens with

899
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: his eyes, which I think Russell Wilson has, you connect

900
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: that with receivers who understand how to move defenders. That's

901
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: where you start getting your opportunities. But again, I'm a

902
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: receiver and I can not stress this enough. It's all

903
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: about establishing that run. You get guys to take run

904
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: read steps and they're they're biting up and they're trying

905
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: to get back into their zones. That's where a big

906
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: place can happen. So the quarterback receivers same page, move

907
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: defenders and then Alice Collins in a game gotta get

908
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: things going. It's been a weird series with Arizona. I

909
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: was going back all the way to twenty twelve, which

910
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: was Russ's rookie year. Remember they up here, they blew

911
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: them out fifty eight to nothing. Yeah, that was against Arizona,

912
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: and then there was the weird six to six tie,

913
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: and then there's been I think they've won four of

914
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: the last six here in Seattle. It's just been one

915
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: of those. And then whenever we go down to Arizona,

916
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: seems like they have success down there, and then they

917
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: load up what's the what is it State Farm Arena

918
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: or whatever down there. Uh, there's all kinds of Seahawks

919
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: fans down there. You see him everywhere. So it's just

920
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: been been kind of a weird, weird one through the years. Yeah.

921
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: I mean Russ is six two and one on the

922
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: road against these guys in four and five at home. Yeah,

923
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, it is awkward. You would think that that

924
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: home for the advantage will come into handy for both teams,

925
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't happen like that. And thankfully, the

926
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: Twelves love some Arizona man, and I don't blame him.

927
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: The sunny all the time down there, and they will

928
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: travel and I think it was was it last year?

929
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: It wasn't last year. One of these games, Um, it

930
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: might have been in Indianapolis where we heard like the

931
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: Hawks make plays and it sounded like a home game,

932
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: you know of me. That just shows how much support

933
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: that these guys have. Um. I think it just comes

934
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: down to you know, who's available and who's doing what,

935
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: because obviously home in a way means nothing in this series.

936
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: It's all about just getting the job done. And I

937
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: expect Russ to play better than he did last week. UM.

938
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: I think Kyler murcyems like he's gonna be available. I

939
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: don't think Andre Hopskins is going to be available, So

940
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: there's a plus there. The Hawks need a break. I mean,

941
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: they need some type of break. They need to call

942
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: to go their way. They need to make a really

943
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: big play. This is kind of change the identity of

944
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: this team right now. It's kind of like they're waiting

945
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: for the offense to make these plays, whereas the defense

946
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: has kind of been holding them together the past few weeks. Now,

947
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: the defense has been holding them together, and there were

948
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: some serious issues that were going on the defensive side

949
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: of the ball. It's been very impressive to watch them,

950
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, fix and change that. But from a receiver perspective,

951
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: what has been so impressive about Trey Brown and what

952
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: he's been able to do as a rookie, you know,

953
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: stepping in for this team, man, Jake, I look at

954
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: his technique like the kid looks like a corner. I mean,

955
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: I don't mean to knock on Trey Flowers when he

956
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: was here or DJ at times, but a lot of

957
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: times they get into their backpedals. They're breaking on the ball,

958
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: and their arms are out of whack, you know, they're

959
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: slipping in their falling, and most of the time it's

960
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: because they're not using their proper technique. I mean, there's

961
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: a there's a reason why backpedals being taught the way

962
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: it's been taught, because it works and it's efficient. I

963
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: see Trey Brown that play he made on fourth and two.

964
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I believe it was where he runs up, he makes

965
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: a tackle and that's the ball away, and that's his

966
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: perfect taking. He had his left hand around the hit,

967
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: right arm, went through, went with it, lead with his shoulder.

968
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: I mean it was freaking perfect. And I look at

969
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: the film, I'm like, I haven't seen a receiver look

970
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: technically sound like that in this defense in a very

971
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: long time. So I think if you add his confidence.

972
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: You hear the young man talk, he sounds like a veteran, right.

973
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: You hear his confidence, and then you see his technique,

974
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: You're like, there's no reason this young man cannot be successful. Now,

975
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna have his ups and downs, because that's the

976
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: life of a corner. You're gonna get got. That's just

977
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: how it is out there, especially the way they throw

978
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: the fullball. But I just I just love his technique

979
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: and his composure. It doesn't seem like things are happening

980
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: too fast for him. It doesn't seem like the moment

981
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: overwhelms him. All right, make sure you listen to Michael

982
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Bumpus during the Seahawks pre and postgame show. Pregame show

983
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: starts three hours before kickoff during the regular season. Bump

984
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. We'll talk to

985
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: you next week. All I gotta take care, Yeah, all right.

986
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: The Voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabels The Huddle, don't

987
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: go anywhere. This is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Heaps,

988
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross joining us now. The voice of the Seahawks,

989
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: Steve Rabel, what's up, Rabes? You guys, as always, we're

990
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: very excited to have you here with us. You've already

991
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: uh no, I I am. I can't speak for wan.

992
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Have you know, Rabes that John Boyle already got a

993
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: shot in at Wyman for you? So thank you to John. Yeah,

994
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: wonderful already he already did the dirt. Very vulnerable and tender, right,

995
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: very emotional right now. So just go easy on, okay, Um,

996
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: I'll start with this one. It's gonna be a tough game.

997
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: Obviously against Arizona. It feels like there's very little place

998
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: to go but up for the offense, though, Rabes, Well, yeah,

999
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean yes. The short answer there is yes, you

1000
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: can't do worse. So I mean, and I was. I

1001
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: just had a conversation with Pete a little while ago

1002
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: as he was running between interviews, and again I told him,

1003
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: I said, when when we were sitting in that booth

1004
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: and the Packers were leading three nothing midway through the

1005
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you hold Aaron Rodgers to three points, I said,

1006
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: you couldn't ask for anything more? And yeah, well, I

1007
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: guess the thing we could ask for is a few

1008
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: more points and you know whether you whether you want

1009
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: to blame it on and I don't think he does.

1010
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: But when you want to call it officiating, because you've

1011
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: got some of those calls go your go against you, uh,

1012
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: some some plays where guys didn't get open. I still

1013
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: keep coming back to, and I think Pete really goes

1014
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: back to harping on this as well. You're just still

1015
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: not running the football well enough to have any kind

1016
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: of balance on offense. And I know that sounds trite,

1017
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: but hey, take take a look at what San Francisco

1018
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: did the other night and ran what do they run for?

1019
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: About about a hundred times or something. I don't know,

1020
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: but they they ran for They ran a lot of time,

1021
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: and they controlled the time of possession, They controlled third downs,

1022
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: they stayed ahead of the chains, all the things that

1023
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: you want to do on offense. And when you're looking

1024
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: at a third and twelve or third and fourteen, it's

1025
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: it's tough. I don't care who the offensive play caller

1026
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: is to get anything going. So just got to find it.

1027
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: It's just taking away longer than anybody thought it would

1028
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: and they better find it in a hurry because the

1029
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: season is to that point. Yeah, I like how Kyle

1030
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: Shanahan runs it forty four times and he's a genius.

1031
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: And Pete Carroll wants to run it like twenty five

1032
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: thirty times, and oh he's a caveman. You know. It's

1033
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: just it's like you can't win. But I mean, look

1034
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: the good teams, we talk about it all the time.

1035
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: They play defense, they run the ball, right, Yeah, I

1036
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: mean go back to the all those years at the

1037
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: Patriots won championships. Yeah, Tom Brady was the quarterback, and

1038
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: yeah he threw the ball well, but they always had,

1039
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: first of all, they always had great defenses, and then

1040
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: they could always run the ball. They could. Yeah, and

1041
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: that's what you have to do. And you know, Belichick

1042
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: is old enough to know that. And there are a

1043
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: lot of young coaches in the league now who who

1044
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: move up here from college and and you know, they

1045
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: throw the ball all over the yard during a football

1046
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: game and run it out of the shotgun and the

1047
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: alignment have never put their hand on the dirt in

1048
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: four years playing in college. And they have to change.

1049
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: They figure it out. Well. Cliff Kingsbury is a good example.

1050
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: You know, they went down there and wanted to throw

1051
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: the ball around all the time, and he found out

1052
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: in a big hurry that you know, you got to

1053
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: have some balance in this league, and sure enough they do.

1054
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: They can run the ball well, they we obviously know

1055
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: they can play good defense. What are they number four

1056
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: in the league right now in defense? That's the one

1057
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: that that really boggles my mind that that's this team

1058
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: is playing that well defensively. That's a good point about

1059
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: Kingsbury because yeah, he's like wide open, throw it everywhere.

1060
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: They are four plays away from being perfectly balanced run

1061
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: to pass. So yeah, he figured it out. I think

1062
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: everybody does that gets in the NFL, right, Yeah, you know,

1063
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: rapes one of one of the things that you know,

1064
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: going along this discussion, what has been the biggest frustration

1065
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: to you this season? I mean, you look at this

1066
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: entire process for the Seahawks. At one point, the defense,

1067
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: my goodness, it looked like it couldn't be any worse. Again,

1068
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: they turn things around and and then the offense obviously

1069
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: has not lived up to the billing. But what has

1070
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: been the biggest aspect that's frustrated you the most? Well,

1071
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: aside from the fact that the Seahawks stopped sending a

1072
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: chauffeur driven limousine for me every game that yeah, take

1073
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: that set it aside. Um. I don't know. I guess

1074
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: the most frustrating thing is seeing the the the inefficiency

1075
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: of the offense being an offensive player. You know, I

1076
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: tend to when the defense, you know, gives up a

1077
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: long drive late in the game, oftentimes, to me, that's

1078
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: a that's a product of the offense not being on

1079
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: the field long enough so that your big guys on

1080
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: defense are just worn down. I mean by that last drive,

1081
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, for the Packers the other night. You know,

1082
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: here's Dylan, this two fifty five pound running back or whatever.

1083
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: He is running into Bobby who's maybe two forty uh

1084
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: you know, and and tired and been running all over

1085
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: the field making plays. You know, that's tough on the defense.

1086
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: So I tend to put I tend to put that

1087
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: in the blame game as far as offense is concerned.

1088
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: But new coach, new you know, new offensive coordinator, aside,

1089
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: new philosophy, aside, you just have to win your battles

1090
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: up front and man demand and whether that means as

1091
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: a receiver, you got to beat man demand coverage. We

1092
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of guys get open last week

1093
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: against Green Bay. Green Bay's a heck of a defensive

1094
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: team too, and I got a feeling that we're going

1095
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: to see a lot of that in Arizona because they

1096
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: have some really good cornerbacks and Buddha Baker back there

1097
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: in that safety spot. So it's not going to get

1098
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: any easier. But winning one on one battles has been

1099
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: really difficult for this team, whether it's upfront blocking, whether

1100
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: it's running the football and making the one guy you

1101
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: have to make miss oftentimes not making that guy miss.

1102
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: Alex Colin has been the closest to that. That's probably

1103
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: the most frustrating thing that I've seen this season. You know, Rabes,

1104
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: this is going to sound silly because I have nothing

1105
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: to back this up. But if I were to look

1106
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: at Arizona stats and you were to tell me it

1107
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: was the Carolina Panthers or the Tampa Bay Bucks or

1108
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and here they are coming to Seattle,

1109
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: I'd say, oh man, it's not looking good for Seattle.

1110
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: The NFC West, though, you could never know what's going

1111
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: to happen here. It seems like these teams just beat

1112
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: each other up. And we saw it between the forty

1113
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: nine ers and Rams, where the forty nine ers had

1114
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: the Rams number on that one and have had their

1115
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: number even though the Rams arguably on paper a better team,

1116
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: a better roster. I never know what to expect when

1117
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: it's the Cardinals exactly. And Pete said this earlier in

1118
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: the season when before we played the Rams and the

1119
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, And that is these two organizations, the

1120
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: Seahawks and whomever it is we're playing within the division.

1121
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: They know each other, they see each other, they look

1122
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: at each other all off season. How can we get better?

1123
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: Because the first thing you need to do is win

1124
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: your division. Yeah, you want to you know, you want

1125
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: to play grade in the conference and all that kind

1126
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: of stuff. But if you win the division, you put

1127
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: yourself in that position to at the very least make

1128
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But you also have a real good shot

1129
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: if you're playing well enough to host playoff games. And

1130
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: that's really what you want to do is bring everybody

1131
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: through your stadium, so you have to know the guys

1132
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: that you're playing. And I looked at the side by

1133
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: side comparison a couple of days ago when we started

1134
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: to get some of the stats for this game, and

1135
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: to see where you know, numbers wise, where the Seahawks

1136
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: are in the standings in the National Football League and

1137
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: where the Arizona Cardinals are. And it's hard for me

1138
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: to wrap my head around the fact that Arizona is

1139
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: playing so well right now in all phases of the game,

1140
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: offensively and defensively, and the Seahawks don't have the numbers

1141
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: to show for it. And consequently the record stands at

1142
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: three and six. It could very well be better than that,

1143
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: winning a couple of those overtime games that we ended

1144
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: up losing. But hey, you are which record says you are?

1145
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, throw everything out the window when it comes

1146
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: to a divisional game, and especially this team. We go

1147
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: down of the desert, beat them on a regular basis

1148
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: and then they come up here and win at Lumen

1149
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: or so weird century Link or whatever you want to

1150
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: call it now. So yeah, it's just crazy. And that's

1151
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: one of the things that makes rivalry so much fun.

1152
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: He is the voice of the Seahawks. Here, I'm on

1153
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: the call as always this weekend. Steve Rabel Raves, Thanks

1154
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: so much for talking to us kids. A pleasure. Thank you.

1155
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: See yah. All right, going across enemy lines here, heading

1156
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: down to Arizona for an opponent preview with ESPN's Josh

1157
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: wine Fuss. That's next, Welcome back to the Huddle with

1158
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. Joining us now

1159
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: for an opponent preview is ESPN's Josh Winefuss, who covers

1160
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: the Cardinals out in Arizona. Hey, Josh, how's it going?

1161
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: I am great? How are you getting? We're fantastic. I mean, look,

1162
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: it's been a tough season for Seattle, but every week's

1163
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: at least been interesting, if not sometimes painful. Hey, when

1164
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: you're looking at the Cardinals here, I think the number

1165
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: one question on I'm sure Cardinals fans, but certainly Seahawks

1166
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: fans mind is whether or not Kyler Murray's going to play?

1167
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: How are he and Hopkins looking? They are? They're turning

1168
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: upward right that It sounds kind of cliche in coach speak,

1169
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: but you know, that's kind of where it's been going

1170
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: the last three and a half weeks. You know, the

1171
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: scenes the Cardinal seems to be more optimistic this week

1172
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: about Kyler playing than they have been in the last

1173
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But all we've heard is, you know,

1174
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: he's close, he's close. He might, he might, he might,

1175
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: and he hasn't. So my guess is that we'll see

1176
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: Kyler m Sunday in Seattle, but we won't see Hopkins.

1177
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, with that soft tissue into of

1178
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: a hamstring that I think they want to rest out

1179
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: as long as possible to make sure he's ready for

1180
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: the home stretch. But I do think that they look

1181
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: at this scheme is kind of a must win because

1182
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, this could give them a pretty significant cushion

1183
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: in the NFC West, and I think that they'd rather

1184
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: have you know, this win now and giving them a

1185
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: multiple game lead over the Rams at this point than

1186
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: having to you know, stress it and sweat it kind

1187
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: of in December, you know, you know, when they close

1188
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: up the season against the Seahawks, maybe need the must

1189
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: win then. So I think that they're going to want

1190
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: to win this game, and I think that leads to

1191
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: Kyler plat Josh when we talked about the Arizona Cardinals,

1192
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: the state of where they're at it was the last

1193
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: time we talked, it was sometime in training camp or

1194
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: maybe just before that, to give a season preview, and

1195
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: there were a lot of ifs to the Arizona Cardinals,

1196
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: Josh if, if AJ Green, if J J. Watt, if this,

1197
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: if that, and you know, honestly, we walked away in

1198
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: Seattle going, oh, here's the Arizona Cardinals again. They're going

1199
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: to be in a tough spot. Lo and behold, all

1200
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: those ifs have worked out in a big way. I mean,

1201
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: how you know, impressed are you by the job that

1202
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: the front office is done in selecting and identifying the

1203
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: right guys to fit their system and collectively how they've

1204
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: been building this thing over the past couple of years.

1205
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to your credit or credits to

1206
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: right and getting guys to compliment the young getting veteran guys,

1207
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: I should say, to compliment the younger pieces has kind

1208
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: of been a masterful decision on the front offices part.

1209
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: You know when we saw here in Phoenix kind of

1210
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: last summer. Um the Phoenix Sun has gone this crazy

1211
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: run to the NBA Finals. I think we might be

1212
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: even talked about this now. You know they had Chris Paul.

1213
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: They brought in Chris Paul, the compliment like Devin Booker

1214
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: and DeAndre Aiden kind of you know, that veteran presence,

1215
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, being in the compliment to the younger guys,

1216
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: and we saw the same thing here and it's worked out, right,

1217
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: It's it's worked out great for this team. You had

1218
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: guys like you know, AJ Green and JJ Watt. Even

1219
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: though he's you know, he's got ir Um Rodney Huts

1220
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: in the center, he's been a great, great help to

1221
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. So you have all these older guys who

1222
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: have not only filled needs, they filled the roles right.

1223
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: They they're great in the locker room, they're foundational pieces. Um,

1224
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: they're they're the leaders. And when you take all of that,

1225
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: throw that in a big pot, stirred up. That's a

1226
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: recipe for for for winning a lot of games. And

1227
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: obviously they were hit with the injury bug recently. COVID

1228
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of been a big issue this year too, But

1229
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, they're still eight in too. They still have

1230
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, their tie for the best record and in

1231
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: the NFL at this point. So it's all worked out.

1232
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: And I think that you need to look at all

1233
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: these off season decisions, and there's a lot of them

1234
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: are head scratching, like why are these guys going for

1235
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: so many older players? But it's all it's all worked out,

1236
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: and you know, even if aj Green doesn't get to

1237
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: a thousand yards or Watt doesn't play the rest of

1238
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: the season, they're still having an impact on this team

1239
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: and we're seeing that, you know, kind of play stuff

1240
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: out of the field. Hey, I felt like Kingsbury was

1241
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: on the hot seat heading into the season. How much

1242
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: of this has been Kyler Murray, great talent acquisition, everything

1243
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: kind of coming together, and how much of it has

1244
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: been Kingsbury genuinely taking a step forward as the head coach.

1245
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: It's such a fantastic question. Um. In my opinion, this

1246
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: is all Kyler Murray. I think Cliff Kingsbury has definitely

1247
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: taken that step, right, he's thinking he's taken a step.

1248
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's thinking the step. He has

1249
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: a better understanding and this continues to grow of what

1250
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: NFL offenses are like. Right coming from college, totally different game,

1251
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: and he's learned as as as he's has He's he's progressed.

1252
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: But to me, this is all Kyler Murray. Right. He

1253
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: came in the season with a better understanding of what

1254
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are doing. Mind you, he's run this scheme

1255
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: since he was fifteen years old, so he understands the

1256
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: actual offense better than probably anybody else besides Cliff Kingsbury

1257
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: maybe in the entire league, but you know, doing it

1258
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: on an NFL level totally different. So we saw him,

1259
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, have a better understanding this year of what

1260
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: he's doing. And I think the biggest difference is his

1261
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: ability to check in and out of place. So when

1262
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: he gets the calls and Cliffs, you know, through the headset,

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Speaker 1: Kyler is now saying do I want to do this?

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Speaker 1: Or do I not? Or am I what am I

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Speaker 1: going to put my team into? And he's truly taking responsibility,

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Speaker 1: taking leadership, taking ownership of this offense, and he's running

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Speaker 1: what he wants. And we've seen you know, he obviously

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Speaker 1: seen at work, you know, until until he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: They only lost one game. So, um, this is to me,

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Speaker 1: this is more a product of Kyler Murray's growth and

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Speaker 1: development than it is Cliff Kingsbury. Um growth. But you know,

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Speaker 1: like you said that they did fill in some the

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Speaker 1: same pieces. So you put the right pieces around Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: you give them the right personnel. Coupled that with his growth,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what you're seeing. It's a team

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Speaker 1: that could easily makes a run into the playoffs, deep

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs and even to the Super Bowl. Josh,

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01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: everybody focuses on the offense, and rightfully so, about what

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Speaker 1: this team has done. But they are top five in

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Speaker 1: both offense and defense, and defensively in a lot of categories.

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Speaker 1: This is a really really good group that was highlighted

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01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: by Chandler Jones and Marcus Golden and j J. Watt.

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01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: But the secondary, their secondary, what they've had, what they have,

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Speaker 1: what they've built with their young guys has been pretty special.

1285
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Speaker 1: How big has that secondary been for this team to

1286
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Speaker 1: take that next step? Oh, it's been huge. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, when Malcolm Muller retired unexpectedly bread for the

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01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: season started, nobody knew what was going to happen at

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Speaker 1: cornerback because you had you had him originally, right, a

1290
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Speaker 1: veteran presidence with big game experience. He was going to

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Speaker 1: be the kind of the cornerstone of that past defense.

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Speaker 1: And then you have Robert Alfred across from him. Well

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Speaker 1: Alfred hasn't you know, he's signed here before the twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen season, and up until this year he hadn't played

1295
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: because of injuries. So really we had no idea what

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Speaker 1: we're getting out of secondary. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler retires and you made you move um Byron Murphy,

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: who was second round picked back in twenty nineteen. You

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01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: moved him into kind of that cornerback one spot and

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Speaker 1: he has just flourished, right, he has just played way

1301
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: better than I think anybody expected. He's been fantastic. And

1302
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: Alfred has been good. Mark Wilson who was a rookie

1303
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: this year out of Florida, he's been fine, right, He

1304
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: got his ups and down, he's taken the slumps, but

1305
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: he's been playing just as just exactly what you would

1306
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: kind of expect out of a rookie in the NFL

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01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: who kind of got thrown into the fire. So these

1308
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: cornerbacks have been been good, right, way better than I

1309
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: think people expected them. And then he had the deep

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Speaker 1: secondary and Buddha Baker's obviously, you guys are very familiar

1311
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: with him. He's a pro bowler, all pro he's great.

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: And then they kind of you know, the one thing

1313
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: that really kind of has always surprised me and kind

1314
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: of stand out is how good the rest of them

1315
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: of the safety room is. When you have guys like

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: Deonta Thompson out of Alabama, a guy that you guys

1317
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: know if they're Jalen Thompson out of Washington State, and

1318
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: then Chris Banjo. You guys aren't big name guys, but

1319
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: they're good players. And I think at the unit they're

1320
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: really really good. So you know, sometimes you don't need

1321
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: to have, you know, a unit full of stars. You

1322
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: just need good players who can play off each other.

1323
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: That's what the Cardinals have in the safety In the

1324
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: safety rooms, I think you put you know, the safeties

1325
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: and the carterbacks combine, you're looking, like you said, you're

1326
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: looking at a very good past defense. I mean, this

1327
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Speaker 1: is this is part of why they've been so successful,

1328
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: and I think that it's kind of surprised a lot

1329
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: of people here. Hey, Josh, it feels like the Seahawks

1330
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: and Cardinals have been on either end of the benefit

1331
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: of the doubt, right Like the Seahawks because they've had

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01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: a winning record for the last ten years, because they've

1333
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: made the playoffs and all but one of those, even

1334
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: when every sign this year has pointed to like, hey,

1335
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: this is a team that needs some help. This is

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01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: a team that is probably not going to make the

1337
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: postseason even now as a reporter, I say, probably because

1338
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: you're just so used to this team, like surprising you,

1339
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: improving you wrong. The Cardinals have been on the other

1340
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: end where they've had so many talented rosters and have

1341
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: made so many great offseason acquisitions and haven't seen quite

1342
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: as much postseason or regular season success, and it's just

1343
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: been this weird sometimes a stretch of bad luck. So

1344
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: I think unsurprisingly you've gotten some people to start the

1345
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: year saying, well, let's wait and see what the Cardinals,

1346
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: even though they've been so obviously great. Uh, are you

1347
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: kind of past that? Is it? Like, Hey, I'm done

1348
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: with weight to see and it's like I've seen what

1349
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: I need to see, kind sort I mean maybe waiting

1350
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: bring up a great point. We're still waiting a little bit.

1351
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: You bring up a great point because the all year

1352
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: it's been the Cardinals have the best record in the NFL.

1353
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: But right, it's only been a year. But with them

1354
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: like yeah, but right, but that but you know, and

1355
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: they've proven that they're good, right, And they're proven they're

1356
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: a very very good team. But I think now what

1357
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: we're seeing and they lost two of their last three

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01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, you know, hurt. It's very similar early similar

1359
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: to last ye, right, a little bit of deja vu.

1360
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: So I think if they can kind of get back

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: on the swing of things, right, if they can kind

1362
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: of get back to playing like they did before he

1363
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: got hurt, whenever he returns, I think that's going to

1364
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: kind of calm a lot of people down and be like, Okay,

1365
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: this team is for real. But if he comes back

1366
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: and they don't find that momentum that they had before

1367
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: he got hurt, people go to start thinking, well, what

1368
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: could happened last year? Is this happening again this year?

1369
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: Are they going to finish the season like they did

1370
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: you know twenty twenty that his clip kings bringing me

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: the hot seat all this stuff? So yes, I mean

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Speaker 1: I am passed that a little bit because of how

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01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: good they started and how good they looked. But we

1374
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: all know it's not how you start, it's how you finished,

1375
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, So we need to see them, I think,

1376
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: finish this year good, or at least get back into

1377
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: what they were doing before Kyler got hurt, and then

1378
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I think I'll completely be like, all right,

1379
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm passed that, Like that's all craft garbage, Like people

1380
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: need to stop doing a whole yeah butt thing. But um,

1381
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: for now, I mean, I think it's kind of warranted, right.

1382
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: I think that we've this in the past, we thought

1383
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: last year, So until they can kind of get pass this,

1384
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: then I think we're going to continue to see it.

1385
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: Totally fair. He is ESPN's Josh Winfast with our Opponent

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: preview of this week's opponent, the Arizona Cardinals. Josh, it's

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01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: always a pleasure to talk to you. Let's hope we

1388
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: can reconnect the next time these two teams face off. Yeah, yeah,

1389
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: definitely do it all right. Wrapping it up with our

1390
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: final thoughts and a key to a win coming up next.

1391
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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps, and

1392
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. This has been a two hour preview of

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01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: the seahawks upcoming game against the Arizona Cardinals. They're coming

1394
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: back to Luman Field for this one. Kickoff is going

1395
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: to be at one twenty five pm. It is the

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 1: first of two games clearly against the Arizona Cardinals, first

1397
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: time facing them this year, and it's a very different

1398
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: Cardinals team than I think a lot of people were expecting,

1399
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: including as you just heard josh Winfass, an ESPN reporter

1400
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: covering the Cardinals. This team has come out and surprised

1401
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 1: a lot of people, but they are very legit top

1402
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: ten both offense and defense in terms of yards given

1403
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: up and yards allowed yards game. So, guys, when you're

1404
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: looking at this, Dave and Jake upcoming, you know, like

1405
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: big keys for this team. What are going to be

1406
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, a big area of focus for you when

1407
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: you're watching this team. I'll start by saying, for me, offensively,

1408
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: it's going to have to be third down. They cannot

1409
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: continue to lose that battle of time and possession. It

1410
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: was two to one about almost forty minutes to twenty

1411
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: minutes last week against Green Bay. Dave, you pointed out

1412
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: earlier that they're like last in the league in total

1413
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: plays run just because they haven't been able to stay

1414
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: on the field. That's not a pattern that can continue

1415
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: against this Arizona Cardinals team. Yeah, and you know it

1416
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: looks the only hope I have is that, Look, the

1417
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: Panthers put three hundred forty one yards. Do you know

1418
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: anything about their quarterback there, Jake Walker? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1419
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: p J. Walker from the the XFL. Yeah, the XFL Star.

1420
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: That's where I remember him from, the guy with twenty

1421
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: two for twenty nine through an interception, no touchdowns. But

1422
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: they got Christian McCaffrey going against them, So yeah, there's

1423
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: some hope. I just I'm waiting for the Seahawks to

1424
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: have this signature win that turns them and I thought

1425
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: it could be in Green Bay, and I really did

1426
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: up until like the third fourth quarter, and so yeah,

1427
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: if they can beat a really good team, and by

1428
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: the way it's going around, right, I mean, Jacksonville beats

1429
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: the Bills, you know what, Denver went in and took

1430
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: one from Dallas, who's a really good team. I mean,

1431
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: you just you name it. Tampa Bay loss to the

1432
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: Washington football team. So I'm hoping that you know, this

1433
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: is a three and six team, guys, this is They're

1434
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: tied for second to last in the NFC as far

1435
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: as record goes there with the Giants and Washington football team.

1436
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's just hard to believe that this

1437
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: is going on. And I have a hard time believing

1438
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: that there's not going to be one of those wins.

1439
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 1: And the sooner the better, right, because this is there's

1440
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: a really good team on both sides of the ball

1441
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: numbers wise, But I feel like in this series anything

1442
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: can happen. Not only that, but you'd like it to

1443
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: happen now, because look, you never want to when you've

1444
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: got three wins look at any other team and say, well,

1445
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: that's easy, right, Look like you got to get better

1446
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: first before you can do that. But hypothetically, if we're

1447
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: talking about the rest of the schedule, you get an

1448
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: easier stretch. Here you're facing Detroit, you're facing Chicago. Both

1449
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: of those teams have struggled. You're facing Houston, a team

1450
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: that struggled. Those teams have weapons, all of them, but

1451
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean Detroit still looking for its first win. It's

1452
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: how to tie before a win. Like if hypothetically you

1453
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals, you're looking at a chance here to

1454
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: get right you are, and this is why you need

1455
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: that signature win. You need, as Dave was talking about,

1456
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,879
Speaker 1: you need that that game that you can catapult yourself

1457
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: and say, all right, here we go and this is

1458
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: what's going to help us. You know, go on a

1459
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: terror down the stretch and you know, push, come to shove, guys.

1460
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: I have a ton of confidence in the defense, not

1461
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: so much to the point where I believe it's going

1462
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: to be similar to what they were able to do

1463
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: against Green Bay. I think it's I really truly believe

1464
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: it'd be foolish to think that they can limit them

1465
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: the way that they were able to do Green Bay.

1466
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: Arizona is more explosive. They're a very good group, but

1467
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: I think that they can absolutely limit them to under

1468
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: twenty points. And if they can do that, they have

1469
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: a tremendous chance to win. And this is going to

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Speaker 1: come down to the offense. This is going to come

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: down to the offense stepping up, being able to sustain drives,

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: get the running game going, and Russell Wilson playing more

1473
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: to the quarterback and the talent that we know that

1474
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: he is. If they're able to do that, I think

1475
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: that they do have a great chance to win. Here's

1476
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: one of the unique reasons why we just were talking

1477
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: to and interview John Weinfuss with Arizona. There's a little

1478
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: bit of a seat of doubt with everybody in Arizona.

1479
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a seat of doubt with

1480
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 1: that city and kind of getting the monkey off your back,

1481
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: so to speak, in terms of the type of team

1482
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: you are, because they were in a similar position last

1483
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: year and then the wheel wheels just completely came off

1484
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: the wagon for Arizona. And you know they're going on

1485
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: a tough skid here in this last game against Carolina.

1486
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 1: Do they see something similar happen to them at this point?

1487
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: And I do think the Seahawks can capitalize on that.

1488
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 1: Now if you're looking at a defensively, I was wondering

1489
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: how many of these changes and improvements we'd seen from

1490
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: this defense, whether it was yards given up which had

1491
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: gone down, whether it was third down conversions which had

1492
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: gone down for opposing offenses, they had improved in so

1493
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: many areas. And there's still question marks, right, there's still

1494
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: the screenplays and we can get back to that just

1495
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: a little bit here, but there's still areas you want

1496
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: to see the defense improved. But I'm going to tell you, guys,

1497
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: I felt a little reassured after that game against Green Bay.

1498
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't the best day for for Aaron Rodgers,

1499
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: but the defense looked great. Yeah, and they they finished poorly, right,

1500
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what it leaves you with the

1501
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: bad taste in your mouth. But early on, yeah, that

1502
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: it was and they've we've seen improvement over the last

1503
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: what four games, you know, compared to what happened. So yeah,

1504
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be Remember last

1505
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: year it was thirty seven sacks in the last ten

1506
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: games and that got them to forty six, which is

1507
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: one of the higher totals. And Pete Carroll Era and

1508
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: then and then also um, you know the one year

1509
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: where they took the ball away thirty two times in

1510
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I mean, they need something like that, like

1511
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 1: you said, signature or something to lean your hat on,

1512
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: Jake um yourself. Yeah, something where you stand out, and

1513
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: it is being and I think it always starts with

1514
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: being physical. The other thing I mentioned this on the

1515
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: screenplays the other day. I did a football one on

1516
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: one thing and I'm like, what beats screenplays is hustle.

1517
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: And I know everybody wants to hear the you know,

1518
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: technique and stuff like that, but hustle, that's a hustle play.

1519
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: So they they just need in general to see and

1520
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, I would I would go through Can you

1521
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit more because I think

1522
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: that's a huge part of it is, is is you know,

1523
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: people talking about technique it's you know, it's recognition and

1524
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: then it's hustled to the ball. Right, because more often

1525
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: than not, most screens, if done right, they do have

1526
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: you at a position to begin with. Right. Yeah, And

1527
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: so you see here I had had a coach that

1528
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: would do this. He would say, I want you to

1529
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: watch yourself and tell me, are you running as hard

1530
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: as you possibly can on every play? And what happens

1531
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,799
Speaker 1: sometimes is you honestly just get caught up like watching

1532
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: the game. And that's what Chuck Knox used to say,

1533
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: what are you doing. You're watching the game, you know,

1534
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: watch the game from home. You don't watch it on

1535
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: the field. And it's just being conscientious about it. And

1536
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: so yeah, if you go through and watch the game

1537
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: and watch it that way, I'll ask Seahawk fans to

1538
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: do that is you know, look at the players, like

1539
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: is everybody going as hard as they can? Or they

1540
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: bust in their butts? You know, And that's where it starts.

1541
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: I talk about being physical as well, but I mean

1542
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: there's no defense out there that you could magically put

1543
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: in that would make this defense the best. And it's

1544
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: not about scheme, it's not about any of that stuff.

1545
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: Like people were talking about Bobby getting run over on

1546
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: the goal line. He didn't get his head across the bow,

1547
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: meaning on the other side, and he wasn't low enough.

1548
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean, those are two very basic things. I know

1549
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: he was tired and everything, but those are the things

1550
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: that get you beat And you know, I would you say, like,

1551
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: when you're watching the game, just see is every single

1552
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: guy If you're in the room and you're a coach

1553
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: and you said, is every single guy running as hard

1554
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: as he possibly can from snap to whistle? That's all

1555
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: you can ask out of your players. And that's something

1556
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: that you know that does beat a screen, but it

1557
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: also beats a lot of other places too. All Right,

1558
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: you heard the man. We're watching for physical play. You're

1559
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: looking for guys hustling, and then we're keeping an eye

1560
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: on some continued improvements on both sides of the ball

1561
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: against Arizona, the Arizona Cardinals eight and two. It'll be

1562
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: a tough one, but it's the NFC West. Anything can happen.

1563
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: Pregame show for this one starts at ten am on Sunday.

1564
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: Kickoff is at one twenty five pm for Dave Wyman.

1565
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: For j Keeves, I'm Stacy Ross. This has been the

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Speaker 1: huddle