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Speaker 2: to Dan Orlovsky of the mother Ship. Josh Allen, MVP
Speaker 2: Patrick Sir Tan Defensive MVP Patrick Sir Tan Senior made
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl the same year, Lebron averaged twenty seven,
Speaker 2: seven and seven. Patrick Sir Tan Junior won the Defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year the same year Lebron is averaging
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Speaker 2: Jared Allen, Antonio Gates, Eric Allen, and Sterling Shark. By
Speaker 2: the way, we did some research. I was curious about this.
Speaker 2: Jared Allen had four career safeties that's tied for the
Speaker 2: most in NFL history. He did get credit for sak
Speaker 2: when dan Orlomski stepped out of the back of the
Speaker 2: end zone in two thousand and eight in a game
Speaker 2: between the Vikings and the Lions. The Vikings won that
Speaker 2: game twelve to ten. Let's welcome in dan Orlovsky of
Speaker 2: the mother Ship. You can see him on NFL Live
Speaker 2: on Site with Marcus Spears being at Kynes, Ryan Clark,
Speaker 2: Lauren Rutledge today at for Eastern. Dan is actually going
Speaker 2: to be on the call with Chris Fowler Lewis Riddick
Speaker 2: for fans in Australia and New Zealand. See if if
Speaker 2: that's live, I have to sit close to you after that. Well,
Speaker 2: if Jared Allen doesn't make the Hall of Fame, I
Speaker 2: don't mention that.
Speaker 3: So there's a couple of things. Good morning, Good morning Dan,
Speaker 3: great to see you guys. Happy end of football season.
Speaker 3: Schefter actually on NFL Love yesterday, gave the list of
Speaker 3: the guys that were options and went to Jared Allen,
Speaker 3: who's like, I honestly think this, and he plays the play.
Speaker 3: He goes, this might be the play that puts Jared
Speaker 3: Allen into the Hall of Fame and thinks he should
Speaker 3: thank me for during his acceptance speech. If so, you
Speaker 3: mentioned we lost that game twelve to ten. That's also
Speaker 3: the oh and sixteen season. Yeah, so safeties a worth
Speaker 3: two points.
Speaker 2: But didn't you last year tell me that one of
Speaker 2: your assistant coaches fell asleep during a game?
Speaker 3: Yes, that was actually that year. Uh No, that was
Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven. I had a coach fall
Speaker 3: asleep in a game. I also had a coach during install.
Speaker 3: So Wednesday morning, you're installing your game plan of that week,
Speaker 3: I had a coach with We had binders back then,
Speaker 3: not iPads.
Speaker 4: Open up the game plan binder.
Speaker 3: He was sitting next to me, and inside of his
Speaker 3: game plan binder, he had another binder and he was
Speaker 3: prepping for a job interview out of college during the install.
Speaker 3: So I look over to my right and in like
Speaker 3: a kid like hides something in his book or something.
Speaker 3: He had another binder of information that he was trying
Speaker 3: to gather to prep for that job interview.
Speaker 2: How did that help your confidence level? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Hey, what do you want me to do on third down? Here?
Speaker 2: So did you have a vote for MVP?
Speaker 3: I did, yes, sir, and you voted for I think
Speaker 3: I could reveal it now. I voted for Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: I voted for Josh MVP. I went co offensive Player
Speaker 3: of the Year for Lamar and Saquon defensive player of
Speaker 3: the Year. I believe I went certain junior. I think
Speaker 3: I did offensive rookie year Jaden defensive rookie year.
Speaker 4: I think I would dig quinnyon Mitchell, but I went
Speaker 4: MVP for Josh. Yes.
Speaker 2: Dion was here last hour and he was Adam and
Speaker 2: he said, Lamar Jackson's the MVP. Tell me why Josh
Speaker 2: Allen is your MVP.
Speaker 3: Because I think we've gotten away from the like the
Speaker 3: real meaning of it. You know, it has to be
Speaker 3: the value of your how you perform with who you're
Speaker 3: doing it with, and who you do it against. I mean,
Speaker 3: if we're just going to take the person who has
Speaker 3: the best stats and give him the MVP, then we don't.
Speaker 3: There's no need for a voter. You just take the
Speaker 3: person who was the best stats. The quarterback was the
Speaker 3: best stats, and so I voted for Josh because I
Speaker 3: think that Josh did.
Speaker 4: More with less. It's not like he had nobody with them.
Speaker 3: I'm not minimizing the other guys, but you know, I
Speaker 3: think that the fact that he was the quarterback of
Speaker 3: the team that was the two seed, he beat both
Speaker 3: number one seeds in respective conferences. He has a historic
Speaker 3: year forty touchdowns, eight turnovers, fourteen sacks. Without having that,
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't have a James Cook got one
Speaker 3: thousand and nine yards this year, and he got him,
Speaker 3: you know, the last game of the season type of thing.
Speaker 3: No receiver that's a dominant thousand yard receiver. So, you know,
Speaker 3: for the quarterbacks performance and the value of that performance
Speaker 3: carrying in many ways that team to the two seed defense.
Speaker 4: I think that was middle of the pack.
Speaker 3: And when it comes to the statistical performance, Lamar was sensational.
Speaker 3: But I think the MVP doesn't go to the best player,
Speaker 3: it goes to the person who brought the most value
Speaker 3: to their team.
Speaker 2: It's interesting that Lamar proved the doubters wrong that he
Speaker 2: couldn't throw the football, right, that was the big knock.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it was an accurate one. I
Speaker 4: think it was a.
Speaker 3: Stereotypical one when he came out of school.
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't throw it in the prototypical way, but
Speaker 2: you know, we compliment Patrick Mahomes who doesn't throw it
Speaker 2: in the prototypical way, And it just felt like he
Speaker 2: had to overcome that. Josh Allen had to overcome Dude,
Speaker 2: you've got to take care of the football, trying to
Speaker 2: you know, stop trying to be superman every single play.
Speaker 2: Both of those guys accomplish that, which I loved seeing
Speaker 2: that maturity of understanding what can I do and when
Speaker 2: can I do it? But you still look at if
Speaker 2: we do the MVP after the season. Yeah, how different
Speaker 2: would the would NFL history be if we if we
Speaker 2: gave MVPs after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Oh big, Tom, I mean if you you probably I mean,
Speaker 3: if Patrick in Kansas City win, you'd go, how are
Speaker 3: we not going to give it to Patrick? Given everything
Speaker 3: that he accomplished this season? You can make the case
Speaker 3: for Saquon as well. That's kind of like the downside
Speaker 3: at least it feels for that way for me this
Speaker 3: year is there was like I felt, five or six
Speaker 3: guys that you could make a legit justifiable case to
Speaker 3: vote for them. And if you don't vote for them,
Speaker 3: you're knocking their performance or you're making them a lesser player,
Speaker 3: You're trying to take away from them. And it's the
Speaker 3: reality of only giving that award to one person. Suon
Speaker 3: could win it this year. If you told me, if
Speaker 3: you voted for Saquon and for MVP, I'm probably not
Speaker 3: going to argue a lot with it about you the
Speaker 3: same if you vote for Lamar, the same. Honestly, if
Speaker 3: you voted for like Jamar Chaser, Joe Burrow, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: sit there and argue against those guys.
Speaker 4: But I do think.
Speaker 3: There's an argument for each of them individually. But if
Speaker 3: you voted for you know, after the postseason. I think
Speaker 3: it would change a lot of it for sure.
Speaker 2: Dan Ar Lobski the mother Ship joining us here in
Speaker 2: New Orleans. Dion was talking about his son. He said,
Speaker 2: he's going first, second, or third. What do you think?
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: I think he guaranteed that. He said, oh, I know
Speaker 2: he's going for second or third.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not surprised. It seems like Dion is
Speaker 3: a speak it into existence.
Speaker 4: Type of person.
Speaker 3: I haven't started to, like, you know, dive into those
Speaker 3: guys yet. I've watched them a little bit. I'm a
Speaker 3: huge fan of Shador. Like I think if Shador was
Speaker 3: coming out six years ago, I might feel a little
Speaker 3: bit differently because six years ago was when you know,
Speaker 3: Lamar hit the scene, Patrick hit the scene, So like,
Speaker 3: you better go be a freakazoid athlete, run around and
Speaker 3: make a ton of plays. The quarterback position is a
Speaker 3: is a little bit of a pivoting not pivoting, but
Speaker 3: settling into real re affirming the importance of you've got
Speaker 3: to be deadly from the pocket. We're back to that
Speaker 3: a little bit now. You have to have the ability
Speaker 3: to go make plays with your legs, and I think
Speaker 3: Shador is. I think his ball placement is awesome, but
Speaker 3: he's I think Shador is athletic, He's not a dynamic athlete,
Speaker 3: you know, Like I wouldn't sit here and tell you
Speaker 3: I think Jordan Love and CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud or But is he like Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3: I think he's probably. I would put him in the
Speaker 3: Jordan Love CJ. Stroud grouping where like, he can hurt
Speaker 3: you with his legs, but you're not going to design
Speaker 3: place for him to run around and make plays with
Speaker 3: his legs.
Speaker 2: Okay, is there? And Dion talked about you know, he's
Speaker 2: going to talk to these teams behind. He's already started
Speaker 2: talking to them like he wants to see if he
Speaker 2: can get his son placed.
Speaker 4: He will.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a firm believer, and I've said this publicly
Speaker 3: and people think I'm crazy when I say Dion is
Speaker 3: not going to allow Chador to go somewhere that he
Speaker 3: does not believe sets him up for success. And people
Speaker 3: are like, well, Schador is not worthy of that, or
Speaker 3: he's not that Okay, yeah, I think that should. Dion
Speaker 3: will make sure.
Speaker 4: He goes to the right place, that's all right, place
Speaker 4: that's not Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I would be surprised if Dion thought that that was
Speaker 3: a good landing spot.
Speaker 2: Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I would be surprised if Dion thought that was a
Speaker 3: good landing spot.
Speaker 2: So he's going to go three to the Giants, I.
Speaker 3: Would imagine the I would tell you the ideal situation
Speaker 3: for him would be the Las Vegas Raiders and then
Speaker 3: probably the Giants because of the Giants' history, and I
Speaker 3: do think that keeping their general manager and head coach
Speaker 3: provides a little bit of stability at least in the
Speaker 3: process of the offseason and whatnot. So I would put
Speaker 3: those two places is the likeliest.
Speaker 2: And it's nice to walk in and see Malik Neighbors there.
Speaker 2: If you go to throw the ball, Yeah, what's the coverage?
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who that guy. Who should trade for
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett?
Speaker 3: I think the number one team that should trade for
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett is.
Speaker 2: I'll give you my thought. I think the Lions should.
Speaker 4: Okay, I keep hearing that, but they.
Speaker 2: They have the draft capital. Okay, you got to go
Speaker 2: all in. This team has to win a Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and they got cap room. You gotta win, Okay, so
Speaker 2: you gotta win. My pushback on the lines.
Speaker 3: Is this the only reason or the main reason they
Speaker 3: are here right now is because they've actually gotten the
Speaker 3: draft right. I was there when everyone would go, why
Speaker 3: do you guys suck? And I'd be like, look at
Speaker 3: our last ten first round picks, they're bad, ye, And
Speaker 3: then look at their last five or six first round picks,
Speaker 3: second round picks, they're all great. So is it has
Speaker 3: an organization that finally has figured it out, finally feels
Speaker 3: like they got all the right pieces there? Are they
Speaker 3: going to pivot away from the reason why or the
Speaker 3: number one difference is because Brad Holmes is drafted well
Speaker 3: and take those picks the windows Now, I understand.
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: That's why they should have traded for Max Crosby last
Speaker 3: year or during the season. So that's why I like
Speaker 3: the lines I hear, but that's not necessarily how they've
Speaker 3: gotten to this point. Minnesota is the one team that
Speaker 3: I sit there because if you're Cleveland and it becomes
Speaker 3: a conversation for you that you're willing to entertain it,
Speaker 3: it starts with the number two pick. Do you like
Speaker 3: one of those quarterbacks outside of the chadoor Dean? Do
Speaker 3: you like one of those two quarterbacks because they need one.
Speaker 3: If you don't, then Minnesota is the team to call, because.
Speaker 4: Then you go, well, what are you doing at quarterback?
Speaker 3: Because if Minnesota wants to resign Sam or that's their
Speaker 3: starting point, well then they have to be willing to
Speaker 3: pivot off a JJ for Miles Garrett. So you go,
Speaker 3: will you trade as JJ McCarthy and some Alex vand
Speaker 3: Ginko or something for Miles Garrett? So then that becomes
Speaker 3: somewhere that I would would make sense for me. The
Speaker 3: second place that I would say is probably Philadelphia, phillip Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: That's the thing with Philly.
Speaker 3: Do you know their most expensive players next year, Jalen
Speaker 3: Hurts His capit is twenty million dollars. That's the lowest
Speaker 3: highest cap hit out of any team in the NFC.
Speaker 3: AJ's like seventeen or something like that. So that they
Speaker 3: are an unbelievably inexpensive team next year. That's because they've
Speaker 3: drafted so well in the last four years, so they
Speaker 3: have the cap flexibility and the draft capital. And if
Speaker 3: you had to thrown Nolan Smith into a trade, Nolan
Speaker 3: Smith's been sensational. You're doing that just because for Miles
Speaker 3: and so everyone keeps saying Washington, I can entertain Washington.
Speaker 3: I think Washington has to be very careful though, because
Speaker 3: while they were awesome this year and it's a great story,
Speaker 3: don't kind of fall into what the Giants did a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Daviles first year, low expectations. Oh
Speaker 3: my Goshen, we make the playoffs, we're closer than we
Speaker 3: actually are, and you kind of make decisions off that
Speaker 3: Washington won five games and last play the game this year.
Speaker 3: That's not normal in the NFL. If they had won
Speaker 3: three of those, that's not normally the NFL. They wouldn't
Speaker 3: have gotten to the playoffs if they'd only won three
Speaker 3: of them, and so the narrative around them would be
Speaker 3: a little bit different. I think Washington still needs to
Speaker 3: keep a real honest perspective.
Speaker 4: Of where they are.
Speaker 3: They still have flaws on their roster that were covered
Speaker 3: up a little bit because of some of those late
Speaker 3: game heroics. That do you really want to give those
Speaker 3: two three four valuable picks away four Miles while he's
Speaker 3: a great player instead of rebuilding the roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Texans, there was I thought false hope that
Speaker 2: what they did the previous year and then coming into
Speaker 2: this year that I didn't think they were going to
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, but that division is so bad, but
Speaker 2: they still made the playoffs. Before you go, give me
Speaker 2: the script for Sunday. If you're writing the script, this
Speaker 2: is how it plays out.
Speaker 3: Oh, if I'm writing the script, Saquon reels off a
Speaker 3: seventy yard touchdown with like four and a half minutes
Speaker 3: to go to put the Eagles up by four. So
Speaker 3: fuel go by Kansas City will not cut it. They
Speaker 3: will methodically drive down the field and on third and
Speaker 3: goal from the four yard line, Mahomes will do something
Speaker 3: stupidly Mahomes and he'll throw a game winning touchdown to
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey and it will be the three pet and
Speaker 3: Kelsey will retire after and Patrick will be the MVP,
Speaker 3: and the goat conversation then becomes very real. It's been
Speaker 3: fun up until this point, hasn't really felt legit.
Speaker 4: Then it becomes legit.
Speaker 2: Write a script for the Eagles winning.
Speaker 3: The script for the Eagles winning is Kansasity's not gonna
Speaker 3: like this one rips off a big run. Do you
Speaker 3: know Saquan's average touchdown depth this year is thirty two
Speaker 3: yards average. He scored twenty touchdowns. The average of them
Speaker 3: is thirty two yards.
Speaker 2: But how many times did he get inside the two
Speaker 2: yard line and then Jalen Hurts score touchdown like seven
Speaker 2: times this year. He would have had to.
Speaker 3: Wrap your brain around that score twenty touchdowns in the
Speaker 3: average length of those are thirty two.
Speaker 4: He rips off a real.
Speaker 3: Big run and then throughout the course of the next
Speaker 3: couple of minutes, late in that fourth quarter, there's gonna
Speaker 3: be the drive.
Speaker 4: One of two things will happen.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a a bang bang play, a penalty
Speaker 3: not penalty that should be called against the Chiefs, it's
Speaker 3: not called, and everyone's like, oh my gosh, they finally
Speaker 3: have to go against them.
Speaker 4: That would probably be the one that would like the
Speaker 4: Internet on fire.
Speaker 3: Or you know, like I've said all season longest Philly defense,
Speaker 3: no one runs to it more the ball and punches
Speaker 3: at it with more people.
Speaker 4: Somehow they'll punch the ball out.
Speaker 3: Of Kelsey's hands or something like that, and they'll recover
Speaker 3: it and that is the ending of the game type
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 2: Dan Orlovski super Bowl coverage live on set in New
Speaker 2: Orleans with Marcus Spears, Mina Kaims, Ryan Clark, Laura Rutledge
Speaker 2: today at four Eastern and you'll be calling the game
Speaker 2: with Lewis Riddick Fowler in Australia or for Australia and
Speaker 2: New You don't have to go to Australia this, no,
Speaker 2: I will you have an accent?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I don't call it in an Australian accent
Speaker 3: because I've done that on TV once and you didn't go.
Speaker 4: I got them a tumbo finger away. I don't do that,
Speaker 4: Dan from management people more important than me.
Speaker 2: Okay. Thank you for your contributions all year long. Thanks
Speaker 2: always great to talk to you. Thank you always.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the introduction as well.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Next year is going to be a whole
Speaker 2: lot better. I think unless somebody is going to get involved.
Speaker 2: May have you know, you may have had an impact
Speaker 2: on their career, anybody else that you've had an impact.
Speaker 3: Well, the joke is I've now helped two players from
Speaker 3: that game into the Hall of Fame, Jared being one,
Speaker 3: Calvin Johnson being the other.
Speaker 2: But we're not We weren't talking about Calvin Johnson. We
Speaker 2: weren't going to do that today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did to myself.
Speaker 2: Keep your head up. All right, Oh try that and
Speaker 2: a problem. Keep your head up. Something good is gonna
Speaker 2: come your way one of these days. All right, we'll
Speaker 2: take a break. Coming up next is Booger McFarland of
Speaker 2: the Mothership. Oh bug yeah, stop buying? Thank you, Dan, Yes, sir.
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Speaker 2: We'll bring in our good buddy Booker McFarland from the
Speaker 2: Mother's Ship. We were curious. PJ. Tucker was traded through
Speaker 2: three teams in a span of five days, and I
Speaker 2: was curious the player that's been traded the most or
Speaker 2: played for the most teams. Ish Smith played for thirteen
Speaker 2: teams during his career, Jim Jackson played for twelve during
Speaker 2: his career. Five players played for at least twelve teams,
Speaker 2: and Ish Smith played for thirteen. Do you remember Ish Smith.
Speaker 4: He's a point guard. He's a rappy point guard. I
Speaker 4: think wake Force. I think he was out of.
Speaker 2: And he was good. Ish s Thank you, thank you, Seaton.
Speaker 2: Would you update the poll results from the well last
Speaker 2: hour in the start of this hour.
Speaker 7: Yeah sure, right now we've got who are you rooting for?
Speaker 7: Chiefs for Eagles? About fifty eight percent of the audience
Speaker 7: rooting for the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's weird that that's the de facto team that
Speaker 2: I'm going to root for. Yeah, I've never heard somebody
Speaker 2: who's not an Eagle fan go, you know, I'm rooting
Speaker 2: for the Eagles and maybe against the Patriots, they were
Speaker 2: probably rooting for the Eagles, but that's not a team
Speaker 2: that people outside of Philadelphia are going to go.
Speaker 7: You know that easy to jump on the bandwagon. You're like,
Speaker 7: it's kind of like swallowing something. You're like, I think
Speaker 7: I want the Eagles to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 8: We talked about this. Marcus Freeman of Notre Dame made
Speaker 8: them lean towards likability, and Saquon does it for the Eagles.
Speaker 2: He's Booker McFarlane. He's an NFL and college football analyst.
Speaker 2: You can see him on Prime Time with Chris Berman
Speaker 2: on ESPN Plus right after the Super Bowl. It'll be
Speaker 2: on the field with Chris Berman Alex Smith and they'll
Speaker 2: be live from the Super Dome full reaction and break
Speaker 2: down the Super Bowl fifty nine as we make way
Speaker 2: for our good buddy Booger mc farland man joining us
Speaker 2: on the program. I knew, let's do it, let's do it,
Speaker 2: let's do it, Meet Friday. I don't know if the
Speaker 2: food is gonna be ready for you, though, Boo girl
Speaker 2: means the grills are fired up.
Speaker 4: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: You're looking lean though.
Speaker 9: You know what I've learned as I've gotten older, by
Speaker 9: bigger clothes, it makes you look slimmer.
Speaker 4: That's what I've learned.
Speaker 2: So what was the highest playing weight you had?
Speaker 4: Playing weight?
Speaker 9: I got probably three ten, But after I got done,
Speaker 9: I'll never forget it. It was an Eastern I was
Speaker 9: with the family and we were at the country club,
Speaker 9: and you know, it's hot brunch the whole nine. I
Speaker 9: had to go use the restroom. So I go to
Speaker 9: the bathroom and I just happened to look up at
Speaker 9: myself and my jaws were hanging down. I was three
Speaker 9: thirty five, and that's when I knew something had to change.
Speaker 9: And so again I just, you know, started working a
Speaker 9: little better, a little smarter, and I lost about fifty
Speaker 9: and here we.
Speaker 2: Are biggest guy you ever faced.
Speaker 9: Biggest s guy probably Kevin Gogan. Yeah, it's like six
Speaker 9: seven six seven.
Speaker 4: Three fifty.
Speaker 9: He was also the dirtiest and nastiest, you know. He
Speaker 9: Kevin Gogan spin on guys a bunch of stuff, but
Speaker 9: he was huge.
Speaker 2: Did you spin back?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, years later I probably wish I would have. But
Speaker 9: during the time, that's just something you don't do, Like
Speaker 9: that's a no no among players.
Speaker 4: We don't do that. Now.
Speaker 9: We grab a few things underneath the pile, but as
Speaker 9: far as actually.
Speaker 2: Okay, what leads you to grab somebody genitals?
Speaker 4: Well, first I didn't say jefers. You said that. I didn't.
Speaker 4: I said a few things.
Speaker 2: Okay, what are the few things?
Speaker 4: You never know?
Speaker 9: If there's a big pile and then we're trying to
Speaker 9: get the ball and they're guys talking, and guys, you know,
Speaker 9: saying some things you shouldn't say every now and then
Speaker 9: you think you're reaching for a ball, or maybe you
Speaker 9: grabbed me too.
Speaker 4: I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 2: Larry Allen, did you face him, yeah.
Speaker 4: Batman, Yeah, he's a bad I'll never forget.
Speaker 9: So Larry Allen and the Cowboys come to Tampa and
Speaker 9: you know Larry Allen. We knew he was a Hall
Speaker 9: of Fame player, obviously one SAP Hall of Fame player,
Speaker 9: and so.
Speaker 4: The build up during the week was here we go.
Speaker 9: Well, the first play the game, based on the formation,
Speaker 9: they broke the huddle and Larry breaks the huddle and
Speaker 9: he's got I guess it was snuff for chewing tobacco
Speaker 9: and it's kind of running down his lip and I'm like, jeez.
Speaker 9: And the way the formation said, I slid and went
Speaker 9: against Larry Allen. I immediately looked at Brooks. I said, hey,
Speaker 9: you need to check this. They didn't come to see
Speaker 9: me against Larry. Put SAP over here. I went to
Speaker 9: the other side because that's what everybody wanted to see it.
Speaker 9: Quite frankly, I wanted to see it.
Speaker 2: Also, how did it play out?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 9: It played It was good on good all day long. Now,
Speaker 9: Larry is the strongest human being I've ever faced. Unreal,
Speaker 9: And you know he left this earth far too soon.
Speaker 9: An athletic, freaking unreal because he was six three three thirty.
Speaker 9: He could run for seven he played, He made All
Speaker 9: Pro with four positions something like that.
Speaker 4: Everyone except center. Unreal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you get those guys, And they talked about
Speaker 2: Larry Allen flu that you didn't want to play against
Speaker 2: Larry Allen because he was gonna embarrass you.
Speaker 4: I didn't have the Larry Allen fleu.
Speaker 9: I was just smart enough to know, Hey, you go
Speaker 9: over here, I'm going to the other side. And by
Speaker 9: the way, on the other side, if it was Eric
Speaker 9: Williams and I forget who the guard was, he was
Speaker 9: three forty.
Speaker 4: I mean it was an unreo offensive line they had.
Speaker 2: And where does that offensive like you look at the
Speaker 2: Eagles offensive line? Yeah, how like where does that rank?
Speaker 2: Let's say if we had Kelsey back on there.
Speaker 9: So the Eagles offensive line I think is the best
Speaker 9: offensive line in football. And it's no disrespect to Detroit
Speaker 9: because I think there's good.
Speaker 2: And even losing a Hall of Famer in Jason Kelcey.
Speaker 9: Correct And I think if Kelsey were to be honest,
Speaker 9: he will tell you what he was losing in athleticism.
Speaker 9: He made up in craftiness and experience. And Jurgens I
Speaker 9: think is more athletic. Now he doesn't have the experience
Speaker 9: that Kelsey had. But man, when you look at it,
Speaker 9: I mean, Lane Johnson is probably gonna be a Hall
Speaker 9: of Famer former quarterback turned offensive lineman. It shows you
Speaker 9: how athletic he is. The right guard, Makay Becton, everybody
Speaker 9: gave up on him. The Jet said he couldn't play
Speaker 9: the big ticket. Jeff Styling, the offensive line coach for Philly, said,
Speaker 9: you know what, I'll make your guard. And he's had
Speaker 9: a career resurgence. Cam Jurgens young athletic Landon Dickerson. People
Speaker 9: remember him because he towards ACL At Alabama, Nick Saban
Speaker 9: put him back in the game in the National Championship game.
Speaker 4: To take one more snap.
Speaker 9: That guy's now left guard, and then the left tackle,
Speaker 9: Jordan Malatto is from what is Australia, six foot eight,
Speaker 9: three hundred and fifty pounds and maybe the best athlete
Speaker 9: of them all.
Speaker 4: So they are athletic, they are.
Speaker 9: Big, and I think it's their size because even if
Speaker 9: they miss a block, even if Makay Becton misses a block,
Speaker 9: he's six seven, three point fifty. You got to go
Speaker 9: around him to miss the block. And I think that's
Speaker 9: where they become just this unstoppable force. And then you
Speaker 9: put the best running back in football behind them, because
Speaker 9: Sakuon Barkley's five ten, five, eleven, two twenty and Dan
Speaker 9: he runs four three into forty. And I think that's
Speaker 9: what people don't realize. The New York Giants, as good
Speaker 9: as they were, or as good as he was with them,
Speaker 9: He's almost unstoppable behind this offensive line.
Speaker 2: Why Aamston he the MVP because we.
Speaker 9: Live in a society where we have been brainwashed that
Speaker 9: the game cannot function without the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Everyone says it over and over.
Speaker 9: I've heard you say the quarterback is the most important
Speaker 9: position in football, and I.
Speaker 4: Get it it is.
Speaker 9: But when you look at the MVP most valuable, it's
Speaker 9: a subjective definition, and most people lean toward the quarterback.
Speaker 4: He's the most valuable person.
Speaker 9: On the Eagles team. They aren't where they are now
Speaker 9: without him. But because the quarterback has been put in
Speaker 9: our minds as they are the man, it's always going
Speaker 9: to go to a quarterback unless you have something that's absurd,
Speaker 9: like Adrian Peterson. When Adrian Peterson came back and went
Speaker 9: for two thousand yards, it was an athletic marvel. Number
Speaker 9: one because he went for two thousand yards. Number two
Speaker 9: because he did it coming off the ACL. So it
Speaker 9: has to be something like that for a non quarterback
Speaker 9: to win the award.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we'll see one in my lifetime.
Speaker 2: I don't even this was the perfect setup. But what
Speaker 2: was your reaction when you sold Josh Allen being named mvpick.
Speaker 4: I thought it was wrong.
Speaker 9: I think you know, you can make a case that
Speaker 9: Josh Allen did more with less because stephmon Days is gone,
Speaker 9: he doesn't have really go to number one receiver Mark
Speaker 9: Cooper really hadn't panned out. You can make a case
Speaker 9: he did more with less. But if Lamar Jackson won
Speaker 9: the MVP last year, this year has been probably one
Speaker 9: and a half times better than it was last year.
Speaker 4: I think he wound up with.
Speaker 9: Four picks four three of them more his fault, Dan,
Speaker 9: we can pull the tap. Three of them were not
Speaker 9: his fault. So imagine if he ends a season forty
Speaker 9: plus touchdowns would in one pick that you really can
Speaker 9: attribute to him.
Speaker 4: It was unreal. But again, when you have humans voting on.
Speaker 9: This award, we're subjective to feelings, and those feelings are
Speaker 9: he's won two, Well, we got to give Josh one,
Speaker 9: Shack one or Kobe won how many? How many do
Speaker 9: we have to give a check. MJ should have won
Speaker 9: MVP every year, but he didn't. I mean, we got
Speaker 9: to give one, you know, Lebron should have won it
Speaker 9: every year, but we got to give Russell one for
Speaker 9: the triple double. Well he's averaged a triple double, sinis,
Speaker 9: and then we hadn't even brought his name up. It
Speaker 9: just goes to show you how us as humans and
Speaker 9: I get it when we vote on awards, our feelings
Speaker 9: get involved.
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes we like it simplified, we like it like
Speaker 2: that's I can understand that. Hey, that makes sense that
Speaker 2: he deserves the MVP. And it's weird that one year
Speaker 2: it's about stats or another year it's about value. You know.
Speaker 2: So I think it was flipped with Josh Allen the
Speaker 2: previous year and Lamar as opposed to this year, it
Speaker 2: was about Lamar's stats and if he wanted to give
Speaker 2: it to him, great. I was surprised that Josh won.
Speaker 9: Who do you think should have? I wasn't listening to
Speaker 9: your take. Who do you think should have won?
Speaker 2: I thought that Lamar was going to win, but I
Speaker 2: would have I think Saquon Barkley value change the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Uh there, I don't think they're here without him and
Speaker 2: the running back. That story, it's due. Like I if
Speaker 2: you want to say, hey, that guy deserves it because
Speaker 2: that guy wanted the previous year, how about give it
Speaker 2: to a running back. And I think that he lost
Speaker 2: the m v P or made it harder for voters
Speaker 2: to vote for him because if he breaks the record,
Speaker 2: if he breaks Dickerson's record, now it's easy for voters
Speaker 2: to go, well, you know they the Eagles are great,
Speaker 2: and he broke the.
Speaker 4: Record something I'm gonna vote for.
Speaker 10: Guys.
Speaker 2: It's like Joker, Joker with the Nuggets, you know, guys
Speaker 2: who said, well, look, he didn't do anything in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: we can't give him MVP. And I'm like, are you crazy?
Speaker 2: But if that's if that's the litmus test of what
Speaker 2: you do in the playoffs, Lamar's one too and doesn't
Speaker 2: have you know, he's not good in the playoffs.
Speaker 9: And to your point, if that's the case, shouldn't Joker
Speaker 9: be the MVP this year? Yes, because because SGA, even
Speaker 9: though SGA statistically is having a phenomenal year, Jokers still
Speaker 9: averaging a triple double, to your point.
Speaker 2: And he does it in three quarters. Yeah, he does
Speaker 2: the number of Yeah, triple doubles in three quarters. It
Speaker 2: just makes it easy. After the Super Bowl, NFL Primetime
Speaker 2: on the ESPN Plus, it'll be Booger McFarlane, Alex Smith,
Speaker 2: and Chris Berman. They'll be on the field there following
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. How does this play out for Kansas City?
Speaker 2: If you said, all right, you're Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: let's script how we win this game.
Speaker 9: So how you win the game is you have to
Speaker 9: make and again, this is gonna sound crazy coming off
Speaker 9: the conversation we just had.
Speaker 4: You have to make Jalen Hurst speech.
Speaker 9: So you have to make the most important player quote
Speaker 9: unquote on your team beat us being the quarterback. Because
Speaker 9: Philly is such a run dominant team.
Speaker 4: Hurts is tremendous at what he does.
Speaker 2: Didn't you say we need to apologize to Jalen Hurts?
Speaker 9: Absolutely because of what he because of how he played
Speaker 9: in the championship game.
Speaker 4: He was phenomenal if you just look at because he's been.
Speaker 2: Disrespected the media in general.
Speaker 9: The media has disrespected this man by saying, Okay, his
Speaker 9: value or what he does, they've diminished it because he's
Speaker 9: not throwing for three hundred and fifty yards a game.
Speaker 9: But if you look at what he's asked to do
Speaker 9: in the context of their offense, he doesn't.
Speaker 4: We are and I'm guilty of this.
Speaker 9: Also, I played in the era where the quarterback looked
Speaker 9: like Tom Brady, Peyton Mann and Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9: He was gonna be in a stationary spot and he
Speaker 9: was gonna pick your part. That era of quarterback is
Speaker 9: mostly gone because the high school game, which leads into
Speaker 9: the college game, which leads into the NFL game, is
Speaker 9: producing athletic quarterbacks. So they're gonna look different. They're gonna run,
Speaker 9: they're gonna have ten to twelve carries a game. They
Speaker 9: may throw for two twenty five and rush for one
Speaker 9: point fifty and so Jalen hurts.
Speaker 4: Its value to the Eagles is unreal. I felt that.
Speaker 9: There was disrespect because any other quarterback that took a
Speaker 9: team to the Super Bowl, we will be applauding them.
Speaker 9: Felt like he needed this flower. So now with all
Speaker 9: that being said, if I'm in you to seezepag Nolo,
Speaker 9: make him beat you throwing the football, because where he's
Speaker 9: shown to be a little and he's not bad, but.
Speaker 2: But that prove what people have said. You're saying you
Speaker 2: gotta make the best player, or here, Jalen Hurts beat us.
Speaker 2: You would never say Patrick Mahomes beat us.
Speaker 9: Okay, I'll equit it this way. With Shaq and Kobe
Speaker 9: were playing, who did you want to beat? You think
Speaker 9: about it that way, two all time greats, but you
Speaker 9: had to take one away?
Speaker 4: Which one were you taken away?
Speaker 2: Well, I can't take away shack it? Which impossible? Which
Speaker 2: one did you? People would say you can't let them
Speaker 2: both go off? You gotta take one away. So it's
Speaker 2: very similar with the Eagles. Okay, you can't let the
Speaker 2: entire offense go off.
Speaker 9: Take Saquan away and take your chances with Hurts to
Speaker 9: AJ Brown, Hurts to DeVonta Smith. I'm gonna take because
Speaker 9: the easiest thing to do in football. You could do
Speaker 9: this right now. You're almost eighty years old, and you
Speaker 9: could turn around and hand the football off. You could
Speaker 9: literally take snap a handed off. I don't know if
Speaker 9: you could drop back and deliver pass.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you had to take a shot
Speaker 2: at me.
Speaker 9: I didn't take a shot. I mean you and I
Speaker 9: are you and our friends. If I had to guess
Speaker 9: your age. I'm not gonna guess forty. People would look
Speaker 9: at me like, nah, he's not freaking.
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess eighty.
Speaker 9: You're closer to Like this, you're closer to eighty than forty,
Speaker 9: I would have said, it's true.
Speaker 4: What then I'm right.
Speaker 2: I'm a Hall of Famer, no question. I'm in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, and you deserve to be ten times over. But
Speaker 9: it still doesn't change the fact you're close to Do
Speaker 9: you want me to.
Speaker 2: Take this zip up swatshirt off?
Speaker 4: You take it off, You're gonna look eighty.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, like this is what ladies come to see.
Speaker 4: Which lady les im plural?
Speaker 2: Like shorties?
Speaker 4: Are there? All family?
Speaker 2: No, When I go to the club, when I go
Speaker 2: to the club, and I call it Doug Club, the club, Okay,
Speaker 2: when I go to Doug Club, okay, yeah, you know
Speaker 2: they walk in, they go all right to check them out? Man,
Speaker 2: silver Fox.
Speaker 4: The silver Fox. Okay.
Speaker 9: I'm going to call you the same nickname that we
Speaker 9: call someone and I'm not going to say her name,
Speaker 9: but I'm gonna call you America's cougar.
Speaker 2: All right now, is somebody America's cougar who works at
Speaker 2: the ESPN. No, they do not work cause I don't
Speaker 2: want you to be I don't want you to get
Speaker 2: in trouble. No, no, but I'm going to put you
Speaker 2: the same. I'm like the male cougar whatever that would be. Yes,
Speaker 2: all right, Yes, I'm a lion, I'm a tiger. I'm
Speaker 2: a panther.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: Eli Manning not getting in first ballance means.
Speaker 9: What means that the people who are voting on the
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame I think got it right. Okay, And
Speaker 9: I mean no disrespect to Eli, but I think when
Speaker 9: you are a first ballot Hall of Famer, I get it.
Speaker 9: Prime example, I think years ago one of the presenters
Speaker 9: told me this. If they presented I think it was
Speaker 9: Joe Montana. And back then, you used to be in
Speaker 9: a room here to the Super Bowl. You get fifteen
Speaker 9: minutes to present your guy. Whoever was presenting. Joe Montana
Speaker 9: stood up, Joe Montana and sat back down, didn't have.
Speaker 4: To say a word. That's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 9: If you have to stand up and plead your case
Speaker 9: and convince somebody, then you're not. Doesn't mean that you
Speaker 9: eventually won't get in. It just doesn't mean, you don't
Speaker 9: deserve to be a first ballot Hall of Fame. And
Speaker 9: I think that's what we are with Eid Manning. And
Speaker 9: it's a hot topic because of his last name, because
Speaker 9: of where he played, because of.
Speaker 2: Who he is, and we're in New Orleans, and we're
Speaker 2: in New Orleans.
Speaker 9: But I think, if you honestly sit back and look
Speaker 9: at it, do you put him in the same category
Speaker 9: as Joe and Peyton and Tom Brady.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: You know, you need to have different floors or you know,
Speaker 2: for your Hall of Famers, well, in a different color
Speaker 2: jacket if you're a first ballot.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: No, it smarks conversation.
Speaker 9: Okay, but why would you You just told me you're
Speaker 9: in the Hall of Fame? Yeah, would you want a
Speaker 9: different color jackets? I would, now, I see, I think
Speaker 9: you're not being genuine.
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Montana, I'm Dan Marino's booger. McFarlane, Oh, Chris
Speaker 2: Berman Hall of Famer by the way, no questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll tell you too. That's what that's my guy.
Speaker 4: That's my guy. I love Midall. That's my guy.
Speaker 2: Immediately after the Super Bowl, NFL Prime time on ESPN Plus.
Speaker 2: It'll be Booger, Alex Smith, Chris Berman live from the
Speaker 2: Super Due. Great to see you always. Thank you, no,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for always being available during the year.
Speaker 4: Man, I love you, guys. Man.
Speaker 9: More important, I love the crew, Like the crew is
Speaker 9: the most important part of this and I think you
Speaker 9: would appre you would say this that your crew with
Speaker 9: you and the people that surrounding this show really make
Speaker 9: it go.
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't say that, but others might say that.
Speaker 9: Well, well I'm gonna say that because I understand they
Speaker 9: make you look good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've been a Hall of Famer. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: hope hopefully you appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Just a quick update, just a quick google the male
Speaker 7: version of a cougar I'm seeing as a man.
Speaker 4: Amanther.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, manther, Dan Themanthea, you are a manther.
Speaker 2: Yes you all right, We'll take a break. I think
Speaker 2: we need to all settle down just a little bit.
Speaker 2: We need to we need to cool. Yeah, Whiteman, all
Speaker 2: my clothes, Okay, back after this and The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: calls Luke US in Texas. Hey Luke, what do you
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Speaker 11: Well, I'm a longtime listener, a long time caller, but
Speaker 11: as of yesterday, I am a first time listener to
Speaker 11: the Dan Patrick Takes a Gamble podcast. Had a great
Speaker 11: time with it, and it gave me a programming idea.
Speaker 11: I don't want to do your producer's job for you,
Speaker 11: but I've got an idea. H take take it forwarded
Speaker 11: for it. You offered an invitation for Shay and Irvings
Speaker 11: to watch the Super Bowl with you in your man cave.
Speaker 11: My thought is next year. I would love an isolated
Speaker 11: camera on the two of you guys in your man
Speaker 11: cave watching a Cowboys game, because there's nothing better when
Speaker 11: you've got that smirky little laugh while while Shay is
Speaker 11: watching a Cowboy game. So I just want to hear that.
Speaker 11: I want to see that in real time, mainly to
Speaker 11: see you almost have an aneurism from laughing, but also
Speaker 11: see him having an aneurism from the Cowboys. So take it,
Speaker 11: take it forward it for me.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Lucas. Sounds like you want us to die
Speaker 2: from an aneurysm. But anything you know, good content. I'm
Speaker 2: all in favor of that. Alex in Utah, Hi, Alex,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Good morning guys.
Speaker 11: Man, I gotta agree with the previous caller.
Speaker 4: I'm on I would watch that.
Speaker 12: So happy, Happy for Super Bowl weekend, gentlemen. So I'm
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Speaker 2: I think if you go to trigger dot com and
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Speaker 2: Chad has all those great menus, all those recipes. TJ
Speaker 2: and Wisconsin. Hi, TJ. What's on your mind?
Speaker 13: Hey, Bud, Hey, shout out to the MVP of pickleball there,
Speaker 13: Todd Fritz. Yeah, long, I'm listener, first time caller six two,
Speaker 13: a hard twenty five. I just wanted to note my
Speaker 13: little brother Christian in Wisconsin. He called in about a
Speaker 13: week or so ago welcoming his new son. A new
Speaker 13: fan for you, James Andrews. And not to be outdone,
Speaker 13: since I'm the older brother, I welcomed in my third
Speaker 13: child this past Sunday on February second, Amelia Joy, my
Speaker 13: second daughter.
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, congratulations.
Speaker 4: You all right? DP.
Speaker 13: How much trouble am I in with two girls?
Speaker 2: Hopefully you get another girl now you'll be lucky like me.
Speaker 2: The girls are great, great, great, never had any trouble.
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Speaker 4: I went up DP, Dan.
Speaker 10: First time to all her A long time listener. I
Speaker 10: just have a question for you again and I'll hang
Speaker 10: up after to listen to the answer on the radio.
Speaker 10: But in Aaron Rodgers first full year with the Jets,
Speaker 10: his members pretty much mirror Russell Wilson's first year with
Speaker 10: the Broncos. And I remember in Russell's first year a
Speaker 10: lot of people were saying that he was playing his
Speaker 10: way out of the Hall of Fame. I'm wondering if
Speaker 10: that's going to be the same thing for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Thank you well.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers' resume is a lot better than Russell Wilson's.
Speaker 2: Russ has had a very good career. Aaron Rodgers is,
Speaker 2: you know, but one of the top ten quarterbacks of
Speaker 2: all time, generally considered the most talented quarterback of all time,
Speaker 2: him and Patrick Mahomes. But I don't think he can
Speaker 2: play his way out of the Hall of Fame. Russ.
Speaker 2: I thought he was playing his way out of the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, and maybe he did. I don't know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, I think if you looked at regular season
Speaker 8: stats for a quarterback blindly, Rogers are clearly the best
Speaker 8: of all time, efficiency, touchdown, interceptions, yardage, just stats blindly.
Speaker 2: And you got four MVPs. Russ has never been an MVP.
Speaker 2: You had the Super If he gets the next Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: then you know, he's a better version of Eli Manning,
Speaker 2: and then he would deserve to be in the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame for sure. But you know, it's tricky with
Speaker 2: these voters. You know, we talked to Peter King South Palatonio.
Speaker 2: They vote, but what they consider hall of Fame worthy.
Speaker 2: You know, Eli, to me wasn't a first ballot Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer, but he's going again in Is Philip Rivers
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer? You know, because he comes up
Speaker 2: for the possibility of the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 10: Yes, Mark, I'm kind of offended for somebody who's got snubbed,
Speaker 10: but we're not talking.
Speaker 2: About him because his last name's not Manning.
Speaker 4: You'll find out who it is after the break.
Speaker 2: Whoa look at Marvin. He can't play pickle ball, but
Speaker 2: you can come up with the same, sure,