Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by the one
Speaker 1: the only West Hodkowits were coming to you here from
Speaker 1: our studios at lambeau Field and West as the Packers
Speaker 1: get ready on this Thanksgiving week for a Sunday night
Speaker 1: football showdown with Division rival Minnesota at US Bank Stadium.
Speaker 1: A bit of an injury update coming off of the
Speaker 1: Packers Thursday night game last week in Seattle. Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: with an injured thumb, sounds like he's going to try
Speaker 1: to work on some different splints or different things on
Speaker 1: his hand to be able to try to play. So
Speaker 1: some potential good news there. But Mike Daniels with his
Speaker 1: foot injury that knocked him out of the tail end
Speaker 1: of that Seattle game, it sounds like he's going to
Speaker 1: be out a minimum of a few weeks. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: tough news on that regard, because, as I was saying
Speaker 1: last week, I thought, even if the numbers weren't gaudy,
Speaker 1: I felt like Daniels was having a really good season,
Speaker 1: and you see what his absence does, sort of the
Speaker 1: domino effect with that defense. I mean that's such a
Speaker 1: great one two punch they have in those nickel and
Speaker 1: dime packages with him and Kenny Clark right now, and
Speaker 1: obviously is a big contributor to their run base package
Speaker 1: as well. But from Jimmy Graham's regard, it's interesting, I
Speaker 1: kind of had forgotten about this, but the Packers have
Speaker 1: been in this position before, the tight end. Richard Rogers
Speaker 1: played through a broken finger a few years back. I
Speaker 1: forgot all about now. It wasn't a thumb. I think
Speaker 1: it was an index finger or something like that. But
Speaker 1: so I don't know the difference there, what makes it
Speaker 1: more difficult through how you have to condition that, But
Speaker 1: it has happened before that the Packers have had a
Speaker 1: tight end play through it. He just played with a splint.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he had to put a club on
Speaker 1: there anything, at least not that I remember. Mitchell Henry
Speaker 1: did play with the club. But be that as it may, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Graham wanting a tough one out for
Speaker 1: the team here certainly a big part of this offense
Speaker 1: and what they're trying to do. So if he can
Speaker 1: make a go of it, you know, that would be
Speaker 1: pretty big for this uh, this offense moving forward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's really too bad to see Mike Daniels go
Speaker 1: down because I know some of the fans have been wondering,
Speaker 1: like where are the sacks and where the big plays
Speaker 1: with Daniels. But I think what you said is really
Speaker 1: the key. It's how Kenny Clark and Mike Daniels have
Speaker 1: worked in tandem on the interior of that defensive line,
Speaker 1: particularly against the run. And we know Seattle, you know,
Speaker 1: number one rushing offense in the league. That was going
Speaker 1: to be a tough task regardless. And really the Packers
Speaker 1: did a did an okay job overall, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: until down the stretch really in in the fourth quarter there.
Speaker 1: And I should just clarify as well, because I've reported
Speaker 1: it incorrectly. We said it incorrectly on the show yesterday.
Speaker 1: The final drive after the Packers punted on fourth and
Speaker 1: two in Seattle, Kenny Clark actually was on the fields.
Speaker 1: It was only well, it's just as much on me
Speaker 1: as well. Mike Daniels was out of the game and
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark had left the game brief flee But actually
Speaker 1: for all of those plays after the fourth and two punt,
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark was on the field to try to stop
Speaker 1: the Seattle run offense there. So I just wanted to
Speaker 1: clarify the facts and make sure that that's out there,
Speaker 1: don't straight. Yeah, I don't know whether that would influence
Speaker 1: anybody's decision on the whole fourth and two, but we
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that we're factually correct as
Speaker 1: to what happened. Um. But I do think this, uh,
Speaker 1: this defensive front, which really when you look at how
Speaker 1: Kyler Facral has come on and some of the other
Speaker 1: things that are going on, this defensive front is gonna
Speaker 1: miss Mike Daniels West and you know, obviously the Packers
Speaker 1: backs are up against it here. No more margin for
Speaker 1: air in terms of this season, and this is a
Speaker 1: big loss. Yeah. And the one thing that's I think
Speaker 1: sums up Mike daniels game the best ever since the
Speaker 1: very beginning, is a fact. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: you realize this, but I believe he's a half sack
Speaker 1: or a full sack away from breaking the franchise record
Speaker 1: by sacks by defensive tackle. That's right. Yeah, you had
Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier this season. He's I believe tied right
Speaker 1: now with Colin Jenkins for that at twenty nine. Just
Speaker 1: a steady, consistent presence. His production isn't just like it
Speaker 1: came in one year and then that's what you had
Speaker 1: and then you had a different player. Besides that, he's
Speaker 1: been the same guy from day one, And you mentioned
Speaker 1: it was such a great point, probably if we rank
Speaker 1: our top ten points of the two thousand eighteen season.
Speaker 1: When going into that game against the Patriots, you said,
Speaker 1: this is where Kenny Clark could potentially be double team.
Speaker 1: This is where they can be putting a heavier emphasis
Speaker 1: on stopping him. Mike Daniels comes up with a sack
Speaker 1: in those opportunities, so not having him there certainly Dean
Speaker 1: Lawrie's available. I think Tyler Lancaster has done some good
Speaker 1: things on Trevias Adams is a former third round pick.
Speaker 1: But Mike Daniels, there's a reason why he was playing
Speaker 1: as much as he's playing this season. And the other
Speaker 1: reality is they've already lost Mohammed Wilkerson, now you lose Daniels.
Speaker 1: Those are your two most experienced guys in the room.
Speaker 1: You know, you get really young at that position beyond
Speaker 1: that right now, Yeah, Well, no other updates as of
Speaker 1: yet on some of the guys in the secondary, as
Speaker 1: far as Bashad Breland, who dropped out of the Seattle
Speaker 1: game when the growing injury flared up again. Ray and
Speaker 1: Green ended up bowing out of the Seattle game. Kevin
Speaker 1: King did not play, spoke with reporters, obviously kind of
Speaker 1: itching to get back out there, but but no definitive
Speaker 1: word on where he is. Will find out Wednesday at
Speaker 1: practice if he's able to get back on the field.
Speaker 1: Same with Randall Cobb, who has been dealing off and
Speaker 1: on for quite a while now with the hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: So further updates I guess later in the week on that.
Speaker 1: But getting back to Jimmy Graham and the offense with
Speaker 1: the tight end position, Um, that was a heck of
Speaker 1: a play, a heck of a first catch of the
Speaker 1: career for Robert Tanyan there in Seattle. And uh, this
Speaker 1: guy's got such an interesting story. Where say, you know
Speaker 1: that we talk about undrafted guys and their backstories and
Speaker 1: whatnot all along, but there's something, there's something about this
Speaker 1: guy's story that just kind of makes you smile. It does.
Speaker 1: And I was talking to him about this in the
Speaker 1: locker room on Monday while you were in the Hedge
Speaker 1: coaches news conference. And the thing that's interesting about Tanya
Speaker 1: and in the position, and he's been in with the
Speaker 1: Packers right now, is the fact that they decided to
Speaker 1: keep four tight ends, and deservedly so. Uh. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has even said it, calling him Bobby. I mean, Bobby
Speaker 1: deserved a spot on that roster. He earned it. And
Speaker 1: when he considered he was brought in in December, was
Speaker 1: still a raw quarterback transitioned into receiver, transitioned into a
Speaker 1: tight end. Uh, there was a long way that he
Speaker 1: had to go with Brian Angelico and developing his talent.
Speaker 1: But then you add Jimmy Graham, and you add Marcedes
Speaker 1: Lewis along with having Lance Kendricks back. It's over three
Speaker 1: hundred and forty NFL starts among the three of them,
Speaker 1: over twenty seven NFL season, six Pro Bowls. However, you
Speaker 1: want to slice it, a lot of production in this league.
Speaker 1: And then you have Robertsanian, who was a lightly recruited
Speaker 1: UH alumnus of Indiana State, the first guy, the first
Speaker 1: Sycamore to make an NFL opening fifty three man roster
Speaker 1: since two thousand. I mean, Mercedes Lewis was you know,
Speaker 1: when he got drafted in the first round two thousand six,
Speaker 1: Tan was twelve. I mean, it's is things like that
Speaker 1: that it really puts into perspective how far he's come,
Speaker 1: uh and and to be able to make it in
Speaker 1: this uh the spot. And you know, over the last
Speaker 1: few months talking with Lance kendricks I, talked with Marcedes
Speaker 1: Lewis after the game on Sunday, These guys are truly
Speaker 1: happy for him. Just and if you if you know
Speaker 1: tany if you watch him in the locker room, he's
Speaker 1: a very unassuming personality. You know, he just goes about
Speaker 1: his business day in and day out, just tries to
Speaker 1: do whatever he's asked to do. He doesn't complain about
Speaker 1: playing time. If he gets three snaps, those are the
Speaker 1: biggest three snaps of his season. And you can just
Speaker 1: tell how much him making that play meant to them
Speaker 1: as a position. Yeah, and it's interesting here too, West
Speaker 1: because we talk about how the Packers seem to find
Speaker 1: these undrafted guys here and there throughout, you know, the
Speaker 1: last several years, there are always young ones that emerge.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting in this particular case because it's a
Speaker 1: story like Tanyan's that attracts the undrafted free agents to
Speaker 1: Green Bay. They have the pick of the litter, so
Speaker 1: to speak. They have opportunities, maybe multiple offers, to go
Speaker 1: different places. Because this is a young guy. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the school Indiana State not not a college football program
Speaker 1: with a huge pedigree producing NFL players, and he comes
Speaker 1: in at a position where the Packers have three established
Speaker 1: veteran guys who are probably not going to be moved
Speaker 1: out of their positions. Yet he was given an opportunity.
Speaker 1: He took advantage of that opportunity, and he earned a
Speaker 1: roster spot, and they gave him that roster spot because
Speaker 1: he had earned it regardless of the other guys who
Speaker 1: were at the position. Those are the kinds of things
Speaker 1: that agents that young players they noticed that. They notice
Speaker 1: how teams handle those situations. Now that doesn't mean it
Speaker 1: always works out for everybody, but in this particular case,
Speaker 1: this is one that this is one that that gets noticed.
Speaker 1: I was talking remember that story I wrote Antonian back
Speaker 1: in September, And I don't know if I included this
Speaker 1: this tidbit in the story or not, but I was
Speaker 1: talking with his dad, Big Bob, his dad all right,
Speaker 1: and uh in his mom Tammy and they recalled sitting
Speaker 1: down and believe it was with Jack Becta, who was
Speaker 1: the agent for a number of different Packer players but
Speaker 1: also the agent for Tanyan. And Becta they got attached
Speaker 1: to him because I believe he was also representing C. J. Fedorowitz,
Speaker 1: and Fedorowitz and Tanyan had a history veteran agent in
Speaker 1: this league, veteran agent this league, and he sat down
Speaker 1: with him when when Tanyan was coming down and they
Speaker 1: signed with him going into the draft, and he explained
Speaker 1: to him, you know what this path is like for
Speaker 1: undrafted players, how nothing is guaranteed and ultimately you have
Speaker 1: to have patience. But after he and he needed it
Speaker 1: because he got cut by Detroit and it wasn't like
Speaker 1: like it was like right down to the wire. He
Speaker 1: basically knew going into that final round of cuts he
Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of chances to play. He knew
Speaker 1: he was going to be use like the six or
Speaker 1: seven tight down on the depth chart. He knew his
Speaker 1: time was up there. But to keep that mentality and
Speaker 1: when he ultimately signed with the Packers, he listening to
Speaker 1: his parents even though they have no understanding of how
Speaker 1: the NFL really works, right, But they knew the opportunity
Speaker 1: he was coming into in Green Bay and that he
Speaker 1: was going to get a fair shake to develop his
Speaker 1: talent and to show that. Okay, regardless of if you
Speaker 1: are Lance Kendrick's former consensus All American, former second round
Speaker 1: draft pick, or you're Robert Tanyan, you're going to give
Speaker 1: a chance to to really prove yourself. Tanyan got that,
Speaker 1: and I think the biggest thing for him was, yes,
Speaker 1: he signed that futures contract in January, but you and
Speaker 1: I both know how these things work. Mike, guys get
Speaker 1: held over from the practice squad across the NFL. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're making a roster doesn't mean you're making
Speaker 1: it to training camp. Because you signed free agents, you
Speaker 1: get your draft class, you get another crop of undrafted
Speaker 1: rookies very quickly do they turn through those type of players.
Speaker 1: Tanyan held On got two touchdowns in the preseason and
Speaker 1: then ends up making a really big impact when he
Speaker 1: came back. He put in the time, he added the weight,
Speaker 1: he did everything he needed to do. If Jimmy Graham plays,
Speaker 1: who knows when he's going to get his next substantial
Speaker 1: opportunity on offense. But the fact that he did get
Speaker 1: that fifty four yard of the fact he did everything
Speaker 1: right on the scrambled drill went back to the sign
Speaker 1: line and got the praise from Aaron Rodgers. It's gonna
Speaker 1: go a long way in developing that trust, not just
Speaker 1: with Rogers, but with these offensive coaches to know that
Speaker 1: when they need to count on that guy, he's going
Speaker 1: to be up to the challenge. Yeah, And he said
Speaker 1: it himself that it's not about getting ready for the opportunity,
Speaker 1: it's about being ready for it, so you don't have
Speaker 1: to get ready. And obviously, with Jimmy Graham, hats off
Speaker 1: to him if he tries to play and can still
Speaker 1: hopefully produce for the Packers, but with an injury like that,
Speaker 1: he could end up having to bow out of a
Speaker 1: game at any time and all of a sudden, tany
Speaker 1: and might might be the guy who gets called. And
Speaker 1: it's a big credit to Tony that Mike McCarthy stepped
Speaker 1: right up and said, hey, he's ready, because we know,
Speaker 1: we know how you can read between the lines. If
Speaker 1: he wasn't ready, they're not gonna be saying those type
Speaker 1: of things. They're gonna talk about special teams are gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about him earning the opportunity. No, I mean
Speaker 1: there's confidence now that if Tanya needs to be in there,
Speaker 1: he needs to be in there. And he even said,
Speaker 1: you know he does he still get nerves when he's
Speaker 1: in a huddle with Aaron Rodgers. Absolutely, But I think
Speaker 1: if you ask Rogers that, I think if you ask
Speaker 1: any player that you want those nerves because if you're
Speaker 1: not nervous as a rookie or first year player being
Speaker 1: with Rogers, why are you there? It means a lot
Speaker 1: to Tany And I think so far this season he's
Speaker 1: proven it. Yeah, all right, Well, a little bit of
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Speaker 1: spotlight because we have Thanksgiving coming up and some great
Speaker 1: matchups that we'll talk about on our next show with
Speaker 1: a great day of Thanksgiving football. But the Monday Night
Speaker 1: football heading into Thanksgiving football was one that will not
Speaker 1: be soon forgotten. Fifty four to fifty one, the Rams
Speaker 1: over the Chiefs, the third highest scoring NFL game in
Speaker 1: history and the highest scoring Monday Night game in NFL history,
Speaker 1: beating a thirty five year old record that the Packers
Speaker 1: held from the Green Bay Washington game back in three
Speaker 1: which was two days after my eleventh birthday October sevente
Speaker 1: the Packers beat the Washington Redskins. Points had been the
Speaker 1: all time record on Monday Night football. This one beats
Speaker 1: it by ten, and holy cow, I don't even know
Speaker 1: where to start with this. I know you have some
Speaker 1: strong feelings about this one. I have some strong feelings.
Speaker 1: First and foremost, though, what are the Vegas odds right now?
Speaker 1: On Mark Murphy bringing this up on Murphy takes five
Speaker 1: next month for the first Saturday. He always likes to
Speaker 1: talk about that, that Washington Packers game he gets he
Speaker 1: he gets asked about that by fans more than anything else,
Speaker 1: I think, because he was the starting safety from the
Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champion Washington team then. And uh and
Speaker 1: the ninety five points ironically should have been if the
Speaker 1: reigning NFL m v P Mark Moseley makes the kick
Speaker 1: at the end, the Redskins would have won. It would
Speaker 1: have been points. But anyway, is there anything better than
Speaker 1: eighties football where a kicker was an m v P. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the kicker was the m v P of the league.
Speaker 1: What more could ask? Awesome? All right? As far as
Speaker 1: this game, yeah, I mean, okay, first full looks, full disclosure.
Speaker 1: I ended up winning my fantasy football game, just running
Speaker 1: away with it because Tyreek hilled. I mean, the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles had no answer for him whatsoever. But here's the
Speaker 1: other thing about this. Anybody that complains about the Packers
Speaker 1: out running the ball enough, I hope you watched this
Speaker 1: game on Monday night because you know, spoiler alert, this
Speaker 1: is what the entire league is doing at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kareem Hunting and Todd Gurley, what do they
Speaker 1: have like twenty carries among between the two of them,
Speaker 1: twenty six together. It's very exciting, Michael. I'm sure people
Speaker 1: loved it. I'm sure they were on the edge of
Speaker 1: their seat, all who's going to score now? But we've
Speaker 1: seen two of these games this year with Kansas City. Now,
Speaker 1: if you go back to the Patriots game, it's fun.
Speaker 1: Everyone loves scoring. But I'm old school, right, I'm an
Speaker 1: old millennial. I'm on the upper echelon of that, right.
Speaker 1: I love defense. There was no defense to be had
Speaker 1: in this game whatsoever. It was either the defense has
Speaker 1: made a big play as in scoring a touchdown, because
Speaker 1: I think there were three defensive touchdowns in the game.
Speaker 1: Defenses are either making a big play to score points themselves,
Speaker 1: or there was just no resistance whatsoever. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but quite frankly, this is this is what
Speaker 1: you get when you're going to protect quarterbacks, as much
Speaker 1: as the league wants to protect quarterbacks, when you're going
Speaker 1: to have all of these rules about defenseless receivers, and
Speaker 1: you know, and I get it that a lot of
Speaker 1: this is is safety oriented and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But what defense has always had going for them was
Speaker 1: that little bit of intimidation because you could you could
Speaker 1: hit a guy, you know, you could, you could send
Speaker 1: a message here and there. That's what That's why in
Speaker 1: the in the seventies, you know, in the old Raiders, Raiders,
Speaker 1: Steelers Classic a f C type games in the seventies,
Speaker 1: you didn't have scores like this because the game was
Speaker 1: played differently. I'll tell you a little story, Michael. Okay,
Speaker 1: my son is eleven months old now, and he's starting
Speaker 1: to develop, like he's starting to think a little bit more. Right,
Speaker 1: My brother and sister in law have two cats. One
Speaker 1: of them's clawed and one of them's D Clause. Right,
Speaker 1: which one do you think my son messes with? You know,
Speaker 1: you're not messing with the Claude cat. You're gonna go
Speaker 1: after the D Claude cat. And I think to some extent,
Speaker 1: that's what you're seeing with the NFL. Now, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you still have to be able to complete the passes.
Speaker 1: You still have to be able to move with rhythm
Speaker 1: and timing, and there's other teams in the league that
Speaker 1: are struggling struggling offensively. So I'm not gonna hate on
Speaker 1: Kansas City or l A, both prolific offenses this season
Speaker 1: from putting up points. It's fine, I get that, but
Speaker 1: it is really interesting that Kansas City statistically is gonna
Speaker 1: end up having one of the worst defenses in NFL
Speaker 1: history this year just with the amount of points and
Speaker 1: the amount of yards that it's allowed. It is what
Speaker 1: it is. I think ultimately, as exciting as these games are,
Speaker 1: the one thing the playoffs does well with having the
Speaker 1: single game format is you're gonna see who the best
Speaker 1: teams are. Who's going to be the teams that offensively
Speaker 1: can still push the ball but also have performances like
Speaker 1: you know Philadelphia had leading up to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: where you can win close games. And that's gonna be
Speaker 1: something I'll have my eye on because even though these
Speaker 1: are two really high scoring teams, you know, how do
Speaker 1: they match up with New Orleans? You know, if New
Speaker 1: Orleans puts up points like that, I'm curious to see. Well.
Speaker 1: And the other thing too, is I was reading another
Speaker 1: article because there was a little bit of a controversy
Speaker 1: with how the NFL sort of assembled a playoff type
Speaker 1: all star afficiating crew for this game, But then there
Speaker 1: were twenty six flags that were thrown, including penalties that
Speaker 1: were declined. I'll just say this west as far as
Speaker 1: the way the game is played these days, I'm reminded
Speaker 1: every Saturday when I get an opportunity to watch college
Speaker 1: football that illegal contact is a penalty that doesn't exist
Speaker 1: in college football. You can put your hands on a receiver,
Speaker 1: you can bump them, you can make contact with them
Speaker 1: until the ball is in the air. In the NFL,
Speaker 1: you just have that five You just have that five
Speaker 1: yard zone. Now in college they can't grab them, they
Speaker 1: can't grab their jerseys and yank them around and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's defensive holding. But in the NFL, man, it is
Speaker 1: just getting it's getting really really hard to play defense
Speaker 1: when you have when you have quarterbacks with the with
Speaker 1: the arm, talent, the accuracy and all that. These guys
Speaker 1: like golf in the homes that we saw on Monday
Speaker 1: Night football, Um, they're just they're just gonna be tough
Speaker 1: to stop. Well, And it's a great point you make,
Speaker 1: because it's not only getting hard to, you know, to
Speaker 1: play defense. But it's getting hard to referee and officiate
Speaker 1: that type of contact with any kind of regularity because
Speaker 1: everything is just a single instance, you know, so what
Speaker 1: is the statue? And it almost in some ways it
Speaker 1: does sort of remind you of an umpire behind a
Speaker 1: you know, behind a catcher, and you've got to figure
Speaker 1: out what the strike zone is looking like that night
Speaker 1: and contour yourself to it. Although there's a number of
Speaker 1: different eyes looking at at this particular play, um, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. I think from a when the
Speaker 1: night ended, I was looking at Twitter and everybody for
Speaker 1: the most part, was unilaterally just praising the game and
Speaker 1: the excitement and this is make this game never end
Speaker 1: and and that's cool. But as I said when I
Speaker 1: came into the office on Tuesday morning, I covered the
Speaker 1: Arena Football League for five years, and I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to say that this is what this is. But I
Speaker 1: remember some of the better games that I watched back then.
Speaker 1: We're the ones that I was like, okay, when the
Speaker 1: defense actually does make a stop, when it actually does
Speaker 1: make a play, and I just I really don't want
Speaker 1: another Super Bowl where it's just the highest scoring super
Speaker 1: Bowl ever the most yards. Yeah, I agree with We'll
Speaker 1: see where the season takes us. But again, that's the
Speaker 1: beautiful thing about the NFL is that you get a
Speaker 1: number of different styles at a number of different philosophies.
Speaker 1: Which style philosophy is gonna best compliment your talent on
Speaker 1: the field, and that's ultimately who's going to win that championship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you wonder when when I look at a game
Speaker 1: like this and you talk about what happened in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, what it comes what it's coming
Speaker 1: down to for defense in this league is to make
Speaker 1: a big play at the end the time. It's not
Speaker 1: about it's not about what happens in the first three quarters.
Speaker 1: If your defense can make a big play for you
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, that can be the difference between
Speaker 1: winning and losing. I go back to too every day, Michael.
Speaker 1: I go back and I replay that two thousand eleven
Speaker 1: Packers season in my head for that reason, because I
Speaker 1: think that defense got a pretty bad rap. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gave up a ton of yards, but they were
Speaker 1: also putting up a ton offensively. But they ended up
Speaker 1: leading the league in interceptions. That a ton of a
Speaker 1: ton of turnovers that helped out that offense that was
Speaker 1: piling up. So I still and I agree with Mike
Speaker 1: what Mike Petton said. I don't think total yard is
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen is how you need to
Speaker 1: measure the top ten defense and top ten offense in
Speaker 1: the league. But but that being said, it's about making plays,
Speaker 1: and it just so happened in this particular game, you know,
Speaker 1: with the way it shook out. You know, the Rams
Speaker 1: made enough of them in in Kansas City turned the
Speaker 1: ball over one too many times and that was a difference.
Speaker 1: All right. With that, we will call it a wrap
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