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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New

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Speaker 3: York Football Giants. Our normal Friday show, we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: Bob Poppa with Brian Dable, Lance Medow previews the Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers, and Monday Night Football with Matt Schneidman who

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Speaker 3: covers them for the Athletic. But we're gonna lead off

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Speaker 3: with an interview with the Giants starting quarterback this week

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Speaker 3: and now in this week's Giant Spotlight is Giants starting

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Speaker 3: quarterback Tommy DeVito. Tommy, how are you man? I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us. What did it mean to

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Speaker 3: you to find out so early in the week that

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Speaker 3: Brian Dable and this coaching staff had confidence in you

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Speaker 3: to be the Giants starting quarterback? Coming off the buy

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Speaker 3: against the Packers?

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Speaker 4: I felt good, But you know, ultimately that's the goal,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'll just try to take it one day

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Speaker 4: at a time and just try to prove myself and

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Speaker 4: try to earn the respect to my players and ultimately

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Speaker 4: the coaches.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Does it help you as a young quarterback to

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Speaker 3: know earlier in the week that you were going to

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Speaker 3: be the starter or would you just prepared the same

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Speaker 3: no matter what you would have been told earlier.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you'd like to say you prepare the same

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Speaker 4: either way, but it does definitely help early on to

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Speaker 4: have that happen early on in the week as it did.

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Speaker 3: So now as you've kind of prepared during the bye week,

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Speaker 3: how did you balance trying to focus on your football

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Speaker 3: become a better player? Obviously it's been a long year.

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Speaker 3: Your college season would have been over already heading into

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Speaker 3: the buy, right, So how did you balance kind of

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Speaker 3: getting the rest but also trying to stay focused on football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did a mix of both. I mean early

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Speaker 4: days and then got away for about three or four

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Speaker 4: not too long where you feel like you're away from

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Speaker 4: So I think I had a pretty good plan in

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Speaker 3: And obviously being in the area, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: demands on you and your time now as the Giants

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Speaker 3: starting quarterback, did you have to say not of things?

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Speaker 3: How is it trying to balance some of that off

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Speaker 3: the field stuff that comes along with some of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, game, that's handling that for me now, So I

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Speaker 4: don't really handle any of that. Don't really get any

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Speaker 4: phone calls. So I'm thankful for that for sure. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: there are definitely things we have to say no too,

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Speaker 4: just because I'm trying to keep the main thing, the

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Speaker 4: main thing, which is trying to win football games. But

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Speaker 4: at the same time, there are some things as the

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you had a lot of snaps in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: You had a lot of snaps in training camp. What's

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Speaker 3: the difference between that and starting in real regular season

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Speaker 4: Right, besides the clear cut fact that there's a lot

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Speaker 4: more meaning behind winning these games than there isn't a preseason.

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Speaker 4: You know, when I was playing the preseason, I was

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Speaker 4: But you know, at the end of the day, it's football.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to enjoy it, going out and playing

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Speaker 4: the same game I'm playing since I was five and

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Speaker 3: A coordinators throw a lot more stuff that you imagine.

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Speaker 3: The stuff in the preseason is probably more vanilla, right

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely more vanilla. But I think now you know,

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Speaker 3: Where do you think you've made the most improvement and

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Speaker 3: getting so much experience in these real, meaningful regular season games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've tried to grow week to week.

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Speaker 4: I think there's always one or two things that I've

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Speaker 3: Did most of the improvements come mentally? Whether it's seeing

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Speaker 3: Where does the improvement come? You think the most as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all mental. You'll see different looks, see different

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Speaker 3: You talked about having your finger on one or two

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Speaker 3: what's your focus right now in terms of things that

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Speaker 3: I want to try to get better at AB or

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Speaker 4: That, eliminate the sacks. That's my number one thing, whether

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Speaker 4: down to a checkdown sooner using my legs, you know. Quicker, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: just trying to help the old line out in that

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Speaker 4: not have us in any negative.

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Speaker 3: What kind of process, how do or maybe how does

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Speaker 3: your process have to change to try to avoid that

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Speaker 3: as a matter of after you get through that first read,

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Speaker 3: your eyes down looking at the rush, keeping your eyes downfield?

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Speaker 3: What are some of the things that you kind of

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of everything you're saying, I mean

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Speaker 4: some It depends on the play call, honestly. Sometimes you

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Speaker 4: I've been building all those and watching the film on him,

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Speaker 4: there's a ton that can clean up, and I'll look

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Speaker 4: forward to going out this week and proving that.

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Speaker 3: How has it been working with John Michael Schmidt? It's center,

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Speaker 4: It's been awesome. You know, he's a really cerebral guy.

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Speaker 4: He takes obviously pride in it, and you know, he's

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Speaker 4: he's great. I mean, he's the first NFL center I

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Speaker 4: know he's just he's been awesome. You know, we kind

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Speaker 3: No turnovers last two starts. I imagine that's something you

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Speaker 3: think some of the key things you've done to avoid

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Speaker 3: really haven't even been any passes where it's been close, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's just a testament that a play calling,

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Speaker 4: pressured or tight coverage or anything like that. So they've

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's just I'm supposed to

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Speaker 4: So that's all I'm trying to do.

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Speaker 3: People talk about drafting a young quarterback and developing them

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Speaker 3: and they kind of just throw that out there as

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Speaker 3: a thing. As someone that's experienced this, what's the process, like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a little crazy, honestly, especially really during

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Speaker 4: out of a fire hose. But I think looking back

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Speaker 4: I know he's mentioned that the media before, but just

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Speaker 4: being able to pick each other's brain, just watching some

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Speaker 1: Would you do here?

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Speaker 4: What would you do here? Situationally, It's just so we've

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Speaker 4: we talk about a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Kfka talk today about during the buy being

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Speaker 3: the office around what you like and what you do. Well,

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Speaker 3: have you found that it's a good give and take

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Speaker 3: where they're taking your input in terms of what you

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Speaker 3: think you're good at, what works for you, and what

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Speaker 3: they're putting in the game plan each.

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Speaker 4: Week one hundred percent. And I mean I appreciate them

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Speaker 4: for that because I mean, ultimately, nobody has to do that, right.

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Speaker 4: I think it's obviously in some coaches' best interest to

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Speaker 4: it could have just been out there like, hey, this

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Speaker 4: a lot of communication. Like you said, me and CAF

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Speaker 3: Was Obviously you've gotten a lot of popularity. How much

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Speaker 3: Welcome to grow up in a triced area. It is Tommy,

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Speaker 3: good stuff. Then good look, I'm going to Anty.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with Citizens,

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go inside the opponent. Matt Schneidman from

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Speaker 3: the Athletic covers the Packers Lance Meadow.

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Speaker 5: Him the Giants at Packers meet for the second straight season,

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Speaker 5: this time not in London, but at MetLife Stadium on

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Speaker 5: team for the athletic Matt Schneidman. Matt, you've got Lance

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Speaker 5: Meadow here on Giants dot Com. Appreciate the time, Hope

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Speaker 5: Pole as well. How's everything on your end?

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Speaker 2: Great?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 5: Well and looking forward to Monday nights of fair And

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Speaker 5: this is an intriguing Packers team all of a sudden, Matt,

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Speaker 1: I think, first and foremost, it starts off with Jordan

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And it's interesting you brought up the twenty point

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Speaker 5: corps and these guys really starting to come into their own.

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Speaker 5: They also have aj Did out of the backfield, and

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Speaker 5: he's proven that he's more than cable of handling the

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Speaker 5: major workload. But what have they missed with Aaron Jones's absence?

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Speaker 5: Matt in your mind in terms of the dynamics of

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Speaker 5: the run game at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just quicker. He makes people miss better, believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, despite how they're built. Aaron Jones is

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Speaker 1: better at yards after contact in the running game. He's

445
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Speaker 1: certainly more of a factor in the passing game, although

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Speaker 1: AJ Dillon has made some nice plays in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: The last two weeks we saw what Jones is capable

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Speaker 1: of when healthy. He's only been healthy one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: for you know, two games worth of time this season.

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Speaker 1: In Week one, he had one hundred and twenty seven

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Speaker 1: total yards, two touchdowns on eleven touches in two and

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Speaker 1: a half quarters. Then he suffered a hamstring injury. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: really one hundred percent i'd say until week ten probably,

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Speaker 1: and then he suffered the knee injury in week eleven

455
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Speaker 1: and he's been out since. So getting him back his

456
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Speaker 1: paramount to their success on offense. But AJ Dillon is

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Speaker 1: an above average number two. I would say he gets

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Speaker 1: the job done. It's not gonna be as slashy or

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Speaker 1: as productive as Jones, but you know, four point one

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Speaker 1: yards per carry on eighteen rushes against the Chiefs on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, pushing the pile, you know, getting first downs

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Speaker 1: on second and third and short. That's what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna wear you down. He's not gonna run for

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Speaker 1: twenty yards on any carry. His longest run was for

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Speaker 1: ten yards. But he's gonna get the job done. So

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Speaker 1: certainly they'd like to have Aaron Jones back, but aj Dillon,

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Speaker 1: like you said, Lance has proven capable of handling the

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Speaker 1: load when it's been given to him.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about match Nidman who covers the packers for

470
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Speaker 5: the Athletic as we get you set for this Monday

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Speaker 5: night affair between the Giants and Green Bay. I want

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Speaker 5: to circle back to Jordan Love because we talked about

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Speaker 5: the dynamics around him, the personnel, the one number Matt

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Speaker 5: that has impressed me the most, especially for I know

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Speaker 5: this is not Jordan loves a rookie year, but this

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Speaker 5: is his first year as a starter, and given he

477
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Speaker 5: didn't have as much experienced previously, you wonder, well, how

478
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Speaker 5: does he anticipate pressure? How does he deal with the blitz?

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Speaker 5: The numbers seem to be very impressive seven touchdowns, no interceptions,

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Speaker 5: And the reason I bring that up is Glink Martindale,

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Speaker 5: the Giants defensive coordinator. He loves to bring the house.

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Speaker 5: What do you attribute to why perhaps Jordan Love has

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Speaker 5: dealt with the Blitz more effectively than most inexperienced quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: game wise, which I think it's fair to put him

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Speaker 5: in that category. Normally tend to struggle in that department.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go back to his first career start

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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs in twenty twenty one, when Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: was diagnosed with COVID or tested positive for COVID, however

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Speaker 1: you want to put it. Spegnolo, who Giants fans know

490
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Speaker 1: all too well. I grew up a diehard Giants fan,

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Speaker 1: so I love Steve Spegnolo from my childhood. He set

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Speaker 1: the house at Jordan and I think the Chief pressure

493
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Speaker 1: sixteen times that game, but he is making a lot

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Speaker 1: better decisions under pressure. And I'm trying to scroll through

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Speaker 1: my email right now to find the transcription from after

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night's game, because Jordan Love was asked specifically about

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Speaker 1: being able to handle the Blitz better because on Sunday Night,

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Speaker 1: the Chief didn't throw too much at him until late

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Speaker 1: in the game. Okay, here it is, he said, I

500
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Speaker 1: think me personally, it's just being able to see this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I've gotten more reps. I'm more comfortable understanding where I

502
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Speaker 1: need to go with the ball. I think the O

503
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Speaker 1: line is doing a great job be able to pick

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Speaker 1: this stuff up. It's not easy when they're bringing some

505
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Speaker 1: of these all out blitzes, but they've been doing a

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Speaker 1: great job giving me time and then receivers obviously they're

507
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Speaker 1: having awareness of when they need to be open and

508
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Speaker 1: how long I've got and then just going out there

509
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Speaker 1: and making plays. So Jordan Love, He's always going to

510
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Speaker 1: give credit to the guys around him. He deserves some

511
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Speaker 1: as well, because it takes the team effort. You know,

512
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Speaker 1: the on line has to hold up long enough, Jordan

513
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Speaker 1: has to recognize, you know, the and who's open. The

514
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Speaker 1: receivers need to get open quicker. So it's a whole

515
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Speaker 1: team effort because they face defenses like the Vikings this year,

516
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Speaker 1: who blitz you like crazy, the Chiefs who blitz them

517
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Speaker 1: all out a couple times toward the end of the

518
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Speaker 1: game and win. Martindale, as we know, is another one

519
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Speaker 1: of those guys. So they're going to have to be

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Speaker 1: ready for it again on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Night, bringing pressure.

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Speaker 5: Let's flip the script and go to the Packers' defense,

523
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Speaker 5: and this is a team that doesn't necessarily bring the house,

524
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Speaker 5: but it's been very effective, at least in the form

525
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Speaker 5: of Rashaan Gary Madden getting after the quarterback. He's got

526
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Speaker 5: a team high nine sacks, four and a half in

527
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Speaker 5: the last three games. And I want to go back

528
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Speaker 5: to last season because I don't know if Giants fans

529
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Speaker 5: were paying close attention obviously to the ins and outs

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Speaker 5: for the Packers defense. But Gary Teares is ACL week nine,

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Speaker 5: and we know everybody recovers differently. Giants are now trying

532
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Speaker 5: to deal with that with respect to Daniel Jones figuring

533
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Speaker 5: out the timeline for his return for next season. How

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Speaker 5: surprised have you been with how effective Gary has been

535
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Speaker 5: given the fact that we're now just still a little

536
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Speaker 5: over a year removed from his ACL injury.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not totally surprised. Rashan Gary is one of the

538
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Speaker 1: more I think underrated defensive players in the league. Is

539
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Speaker 1: he on the level of the Nick Boss TJ Watch,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Michael Parsons, Max Crosby's He's probably on the

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Speaker 1: tier right under that. But there's a reason they paid

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Speaker 1: Rashaan Gary an extension worth twenty four million dollars a

543
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Speaker 1: year a couple of weeks ago, because he can produce

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Speaker 1: at that level. You look at what he did against

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Speaker 1: the Lions on Thanksgiving in Detroit, three sacks, two or

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Speaker 1: s fumbles. I believe he had another half a sack

547
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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. This is the guy he is. He's

548
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Speaker 1: not tremendous in the run game, but he will get

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Speaker 1: after you and you have to throw a chip or

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Speaker 1: two straight up blocked at him to prevent him from

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Speaker 1: wrecking your game plan. You know, the last couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks he has shown why they pay him twenty four

553
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. After a stretch there, you know,

554
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Speaker 1: week seven to ten he had no sacks. I was like, okay,

555
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Speaker 1: you know you're going to need to step up now

556
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Speaker 1: you're being paid like those other elite guys. And he

557
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Speaker 1: has stepped up. He is the Packers' best player, I

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Speaker 1: would say, on both sides of the ball, and if

559
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Speaker 1: you don't have a really solid plan for him, he

560
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Speaker 1: is going to ruin your day or night whenever you play.

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Speaker 5: And the Packers have some nice compliments around him, and

562
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Speaker 5: maybe it's not fair to call Preston Smith a compliment

563
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Speaker 5: given his veteran experience, but it has been a team effort.

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Speaker 5: I would argue around Rashaun Garery. With that being said, Matt,

565
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Speaker 5: you brought up the run defense, and that's the one

566
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Speaker 5: number that is a bit of a head scratcher because

567
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Speaker 5: they're thirtieth in the NFL. They're giving up one hundred

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Speaker 5: and thirty six rushing yards per game. And I think

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Speaker 5: of you the Giants, especially with a young quarterback at

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Speaker 5: Tommy DeVito, you want to be able to run the

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Speaker 5: ball effectively.

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Speaker 2: What is the explanation behind?

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Speaker 5: Okay, they've been effective in getting after the quarterback, but

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Speaker 5: there's still holes in the run game, and I think

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Speaker 5: it's fair to say we saw Isaiah Piciceco take full

576
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Speaker 5: advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an ongoing issue for the Packers. They have

578
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Speaker 1: been horrible at stopping the run for as long as

579
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Speaker 1: I can remember. This is my fifth year covering the team,

580
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Speaker 1: and they've never been good at it, you know, at

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Speaker 1: least not on a consistent basis. They've allowed over two

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Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing to the Lions the first time they

583
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Speaker 1: played to the Falcons. This year, they allowed over two

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Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing I believe to the Pittsburgh Steelers if

585
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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, and they've had you know, spurts of competency,

586
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Speaker 1: but there's reasons that people don't want Joe Berry as

587
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. They have the number nine scoring defense overall,

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Speaker 1: so I think he should say, but you know, against

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Speaker 1: solid rushing teams, then there are other games like you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the Chiefs the Broncos, where they don't get you know,

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Speaker 1: two hundred yards rushing, but they still have a really

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Speaker 1: good yards per carry. Cliff, the Packers aren't a great

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Speaker 1: tackling team. They get the pile pushed against them like

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Speaker 1: they did against the Chiefs. And Matt Leffler said it

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Speaker 1: after the game. You know, even when they're in one

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Speaker 1: high safety looks, they're not in the proper gaps all

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Speaker 1: the time. He was speaking specifically about the Chiefs game,

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Speaker 1: and that's when you know, they get gashed in the

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Speaker 1: run game against the defense that is supposed to stop

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Speaker 1: the run as opposed to you know, two high safety

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Speaker 1: looks which you'll give up you know, run plays to

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Speaker 1: prevent explosive plays over the top. That's the one area

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Speaker 1: that the Giants can exploit them. If you were to

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Speaker 1: ask me, how can the Giants make this a game

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Speaker 1: or win the game. It's really gets Saquon going on

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Speaker 1: the ground and gash the Packers in the run game,

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Speaker 1: because Green Bay has shown nothing to convince me that

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Speaker 1: they can consistently stop the run.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking the same way that you are.

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Speaker 5: I think that this could be a big Barkley game

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Speaker 5: if the Giants could have success on the ground. Given

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Speaker 5: the fact that they tried to do that against New England,

613
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Speaker 5: Patriots were effective in containing him. Put it more in

614
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Speaker 5: the hands of the Giants defense as well as Tommy DeVito.

615
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Speaker 5: And that brings me to the pass defense because I'll

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Speaker 5: circle back to Matt what you were talking about earlier.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned JayR Alexander. He's been sidelined the last four games,

618
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Speaker 5: seven games he's missed overall back in shoulder injury. So

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Speaker 5: you take away their best corner, You trade Rasoul Douglas

620
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Speaker 5: to the Bills around the deadline, and now you're left

621
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Speaker 5: with a lot of question marks, including Corey Ballentine, who

622
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Speaker 5: Giants fans are familiar with their twenty nineteen six round pick.

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Speaker 5: They got a rookie by the name of Carrington Valentine.

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Speaker 5: I guess they like the rhyme scheme, and then he's

625
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Speaker 5: Sean Nixon, who is known for a special team's role

626
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Speaker 5: he's now had to step in, is the nickel back

627
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Speaker 5: and is arguably their most experienced corner What do you

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00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 5: make of the dynamics of this secondary and why they've

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Speaker 5: been able for the most part.

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Speaker 2: I would say to hold their own.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's been pretty at all times, but

633
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Speaker 1: you said it. I would say they've held their own

634
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Speaker 1: and stayed above water. Corey Ballentine is obviously someone you

635
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: guys know well. He has stepped in and performed admirably.

636
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Speaker 1: You know, he's been gone out a couple times, but

637
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Speaker 1: he's held his own. Carrington Valentine has kind of that

638
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: cornerback's mentality that you need of you're the best guy

639
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: out there. You know. He committed an egregious defensive pass

640
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Speaker 1: interference against Marcus Valdez Scaltling at the end of that

641
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs game, and I asked him after the game, when

642
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Speaker 1: did you know it was safe to do the gritty

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Speaker 1: because he started celebrating right after that play, and he goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: of course right away, like you know, didn't. I don't

645
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: know what PI you're talking about. I didn't see no

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00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: flag on the field, Like that's the kind of delusion

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Speaker 1: you need to have if you're going to be a

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Speaker 1: successful corner in this league. And you said it. They

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Speaker 1: traded Rusuell Douglass, who had been playing really well for

650
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Speaker 1: them when they were two and five. Jay r Alexander,

651
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Speaker 1: the highest paid corner in NFL history, still has missed

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Speaker 1: seven games due to backs and shoulder injuries. Kishawn Nixon

653
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Speaker 1: had never played this much defense in his life and

654
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Speaker 1: he's been there. Nickel corner, don't believe he's missed any games.

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Speaker 1: He was an All Pro kick returner last year, but

656
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Speaker 1: now he's you know, their most consistent defender. And at safety,

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Speaker 1: Darnell Savage and Rudy Ford have both missed extended times.

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Speaker 1: So they've had four of their five start secondary members

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Speaker 1: be backups for good stretches of the season and they've

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Speaker 1: held their own. And that's the credit to Brian Guducuntz for,

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Speaker 1: you know, adding depth to the secondary, stocking the secondary

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Speaker 1: with impressive depths. You know, guys like Jonathan Owens, who

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Speaker 1: is better known as being Simone Bile's husband, has played

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Speaker 1: well at safety the last couple games. Anthony Johnson Junior,

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Speaker 1: a rookie seventh round pick out of Iowa State, has

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Speaker 1: played well. Savage is back in the lineup now, but

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a testament to the execution of these

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Speaker 1: guys who didn't really plan to be called on like this.

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Speaker 1: It's a credit to Joe Berry, it's the credit to

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Speaker 1: Brian Gouducuntz and Matt Lafleur. They're going to be more

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Speaker 1: at full strength. I think going into this game on

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Speaker 1: Monday night, you know, Valentine has been the starter since

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Speaker 1: Douglist was traded. I'm assuming JayR Alexander's back, who knows,

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Speaker 1: and then Savage is back, and you know, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Owens or Rudy Ford starting beside him. They kind

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Speaker 1: of have their pieces back together. But but it is

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Speaker 1: kind of remarkable how they haven't completely crumbled these last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Matt, you brought up an interesting point.

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Speaker 5: And I hate the term luck because I think there's

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Speaker 5: more that meets the eye when it comes to being

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Speaker 5: able to finish games and the opposition not necessarily laying

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Speaker 5: out the red carpet. But what you were hitting on is,

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Speaker 5: if you look at these last three wins, Jared Goff

685
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Speaker 5: had a high volume of fumbles on Thanksgiving. If Quentin

686
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Speaker 5: Johnston catches that ball from Justin Herbert, maybe they get

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Speaker 5: in field goal range and kick a field goal to

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Speaker 5: take the game to overtime. And then of course the

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Speaker 5: egregious mispass interference call that you reference against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: I guess what I'm getting at is are the Packers,

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Speaker 5: from a luck perspective, benefitting or do you think that

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Speaker 5: even if those things went right for the opposition, that

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Speaker 5: shouldn't take away from what this team is accomplished.

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Speaker 1: I would go more so the second. Are they getting fortunate?

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Speaker 1: I think so? I think fortunate is maybe the better

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Speaker 1: word to you against the Chargers, certainly, But you know,

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Speaker 1: drops are part of the game. Against the Chiefs, it's

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Speaker 1: the tricky one because earlier in that drive, Jonathan Owens

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Speaker 1: hit Patrick Mahomes when both of Mahomes' feet are in

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Speaker 1: the green. Mahomes is a runner, it wasn't leading with

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Speaker 1: the helmet. It was a horrific late hit call. So

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Speaker 1: that just gifted the Chiefs fifteen yards. So yes, I

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Speaker 1: understand the defensive pass interference is forty forty five yards

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Speaker 1: and the late hit is only fifteen, But there were

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Speaker 1: bad calls that went against both teams late in that

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Speaker 1: game that were both clearly bad calls. It's not like

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Speaker 1: there were borderline calls. Both were egregious misses. The Chargers game,

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Speaker 1: you can say, yeah, they got lucky because Quentin Johnson

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Speaker 1: dropped that ball, but that's part of the game. You know,

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Speaker 1: if the Chargers didn't want to put themselves in that

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Speaker 1: position to have one drop aside the game, they should

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Speaker 1: have not been outplayed by the Packers that game. So

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Speaker 1: I think I tend to, you know, just give the

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Speaker 1: Packers credit for digging themselves out of the two and five,

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Speaker 1: three and six holes that they were in and putting

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Speaker 1: themselves in a position not just where it's a possibility

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Speaker 1: they make the playoffs, or it seems like a probability.

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Speaker 1: They have the Giants, the Buccaneers, the Panthers, the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: and the Bears. No opponent that's above five hundred right now.

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Speaker 1: So they kind of controlled their own destiny for this thing,

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Speaker 1: which is remarkable considering just a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 1: I was refreshing draft orders and getting my mock drafts

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Speaker 1: ready for these guys.

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Speaker 5: Completely understandable It's just another example of how, hey, your

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Speaker 5: fate can change relatively quickly in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: And on that topic, this number is remarkable that the

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Speaker 5: Packers are sixteen and zero in December under Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 5: and that is a good trend, especially we are now

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Speaker 5: in that month. I know the dynamics of the roster

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Speaker 5: has changed over Matt Lafleur's few seasons, but if there's

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Speaker 5: any common element, Matt that you could point to, why

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Speaker 5: has this team been so good or is that more

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Speaker 5: of Aaron Rodgers' presence?

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Speaker 2: And it wouldn't go so.

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Speaker 5: Far to say that they're going to be able to

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Speaker 5: duplicate that here now with Jordan Love at the controls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see if they can. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: strong culture in Green Bay because even with a drastically

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Speaker 1: different team. You see that last season they were four

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Speaker 1: and eight, one four in a row to put themselves

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Speaker 1: in a winning in position. In Week eighteen they lost

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Speaker 1: to the Lions. But the point that they didn't let

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Speaker 1: this season completely unravel is my point. This season, they're

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Speaker 1: three and six, they won three in a row to

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Speaker 1: put themselves back in a completely different team, you know,

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Speaker 1: not really much vetteran leadership, at least on the offensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. There's a strong culture here, but

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Speaker 1: you know, for the most part it has been Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen to zero is remarkable in December, regardless of which

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Speaker 1: way you try and cut it. But Jordan Loves looks

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Speaker 1: like a guy. Now. He's been a guy for the

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Speaker 1: last five weeks. Is he going to be a guy

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Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years, the next four years, hell

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Speaker 1: the rest of this season, I don't know. But they

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Speaker 1: have a really strong young foundation on offense, experience on defense,

756
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Speaker 1: and guys like Alexander Devondre Campbell, Rashaun Garry, Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 1: I think they have a good foundation. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Aj Dillon said it after the game on Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: the standard in Green Bay is winning. Sure, you know

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Speaker 1: every franchise can say that, but that's just not the case.

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Speaker 1: You associate consistent winning with the Packers. And yes, it's

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Speaker 1: been largely because of quarterback player over the last thirty years,

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Speaker 1: but it's kind of been seeped into this building, the

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Speaker 1: standard of winning, and Jordan Love looks like the early

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Speaker 1: returns at least that he could be that next guy

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Speaker 1: to usher in this next era of winning Packers football.

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Speaker 5: Matt, before I let you go in greatly appreciate the

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Speaker 5: time and the insight. A lot of people would look

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Speaker 5: at a game like this from green Bay's perspective and say,

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Speaker 5: all this could be a bit of a tramp game.

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Speaker 5: You have a Giants team that's won two in a

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Speaker 5: row coming off the by green Bay, still a relatively

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Speaker 5: young team. They've had some ups and downs this season.

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Speaker 5: Do you think the youth that you just talked about

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Speaker 5: perhaps protects them in a game like this, Meaning there's

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Speaker 5: not enough veterans as much as in previous years with

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers that you would say, all right, they're overlooking

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Speaker 5: the opponent, they're looking ahead. The fact that they're a big,

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Speaker 5: young and inexperience that they're not in position to take

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Speaker 5: a game like this were granted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a you don't know what you

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Speaker 1: don't know sort of thing. And they haven't been favored

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Speaker 1: for a while. You know, they're six and a half

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Speaker 1: point favorites last time I checked now, and they've you know,

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Speaker 1: just been underdogs the past, you know, a couple months

786
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Speaker 1: just going with the wind, you know, playing with house money,

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Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And now it's going to be

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how they start off this game because

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Speaker 1: they've started off the last two games against teams that

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Speaker 1: were heavily favored, the Lions and the Chiefs, with a

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Speaker 1: touchdown on the opening drive, touchdown on i think the

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Speaker 1: first two drives. Yeah, they scored twenty points in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter against the Lions through those touchdowns coming on

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Speaker 1: the first two offensive drive. They score touchdowns on the

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Speaker 1: first two offensive drives against the Chiefs. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: a all right, screw it, let's just go out there mentality.

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Speaker 1: I think now their favorites. Now they're the front runners again,

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Speaker 1: even at six and six. They need to make sure this,

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Speaker 1: you know, good feeling that's high of the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: the last three weeks, doesn't seep into this Monday night

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Speaker 1: just because you know it might be an easier opponent

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Speaker 1: on paper, because the second you do that is the

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Speaker 1: second you suffer the fate of the Lines and the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and you get upset by a team that you

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Speaker 1: should beat. So that's the challenge this week. I'll be

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Speaker 1: interested to see how they're approaching this game when we

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Speaker 1: get into the locker room later today. But certainly I

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Speaker 1: do not think this is a you know, easy win.

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Speaker 1: I think the Packers are going to win. But there's

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Speaker 1: a reason the games are played on the field and

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Speaker 1: not just on paper.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's why the NFL is defined by parity, because

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Speaker 5: just when you think you figure it out, they.

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Speaker 2: Have other plans.

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Speaker 5: It is the Giants and the Packers on Monday Night football,

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Speaker 5: as these teams will meet for the second great season.

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Speaker 5: He is Mat Schneidman, who covers the Packers for the

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Speaker 5: Athletic Matt always great, catch it up with you greatly,

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Speaker 5: appreciate the time and looking forward to Monday Night's game.

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Speaker 1: My pleasure see out there.

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Speaker 2: You got it my pleasure as well.

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Speaker 3: We thank Matt great insight there on the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 3: who are going to be a tough opponent on Monday Night.

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Speaker 3: voice of Big Blue, Bob Papa with Brian Dable.

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Speaker 7: And as always we're joined by the head coach of

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Speaker 7: the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable. Giants take on

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Speaker 7: the Green Bay Packers. Giants had a chance to enjoy

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Speaker 7: their bye week and now getting ready to take on

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Speaker 7: Green Bay. They've won three in a row. Coach, as

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Speaker 7: you went through the bye week, did you learn anything

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Speaker 7: as you did some extra looking back at the first

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Speaker 7: part of the season that you saw on tape that

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Speaker 7: maybe you had missed.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, like I said, we try to do

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Speaker 8: that each week, stay on top of our trends and tendencies.

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Speaker 8: But to have a little extra time you certainly dive

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Speaker 8: into it a little bit more and it was a

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Speaker 8: productive week.

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Speaker 7: You made the decision and the announcement earlier in the

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Speaker 7: week that Tommy DeVito would get the start. He's won

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Speaker 7: two in a row going into the buy now going

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Speaker 7: against a Packers team that you know, Boss a really

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Speaker 7: good defense coach. You know, we talk about everybody gets

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Speaker 7: you know, very focused on Jordan Love and what he's

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Speaker 7: doing is his first year as starter. But when you

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Speaker 7: take a look at what the Packers have done defensively,

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Speaker 7: it's pretty impressive, especially with the guys that can get

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Speaker 7: after the quarterback. What's your take as you looked at

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Speaker 7: them on film.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, First of all, they don't give up a lot

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Speaker 8: of points. I think there's been two games where it's

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Speaker 8: been twenty five or more points, So they've done a

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Speaker 8: good job of holding the opponent. They play very good

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Speaker 8: red zone defense. Like you said, they have good pass rushers,

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Speaker 8: Well that's Preston Smith Gary. You know, they have good

867
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 8: young talent with kway Walker. You know, Alexander is a

868
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 8: premier corner in this league. Kenny Clark is a problem inside.

869
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 8: So they play good team defense, do a really good

870
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 8: job tightening up in the red zone, and have played

871
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 8: good football.

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Speaker 7: You mentioned with Sean Gary. Obviously this is a little

873
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Speaker 7: bit of a homecoming for him having grown up in

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Speaker 7: New Jersey. Is he one of those guys where you

875
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 7: almost have to say, all right, he's gonna get some

876
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 7: of his during the course of the game, but we

877
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Speaker 7: can't let a guy like that completely wreck the game.

878
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, you certainly try. You know, these teams that you

879
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 8: play that have premier edge rushers always present issues, and

880
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 8: you know you do the best job you can in

881
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 8: terms of game planning. But like you said, the really

882
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 8: good players always find a way, and we've played a

883
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Speaker 8: number of them this year, and we're gonna have to

884
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 8: do a good job not only against him, who he

885
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Speaker 8: is premier player, but the rest of the rest of the.

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Speaker 7: Crew that they have coach. One of the things that's

887
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Speaker 7: been impressive about the team this year in regards to

888
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 7: commitment level on trying to be consistent. And what I

889
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Speaker 7: mean by this is like your old boss, Charlie Weiss,

890
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 7: he always says, hey, sometimes it's not the yards per carry,

891
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 7: but it's the volume of runs. And we've seen that

892
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 7: with Saquan where it's been rough sledding for the run

893
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 7: game and then he kind of cracks one and it

894
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 7: just sort of opens the seal for everything else. Is

895
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 7: that something that is conscious in your mind of making

896
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Speaker 7: sure that we get to runs no matter kind of

897
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Speaker 7: what the result is.

898
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think trying to you know, execute the play

899
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Speaker 8: whatever that's called. But Saquan has done a good job

900
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 8: for us. It's never going to be perfect in the

901
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Speaker 8: run game or the pass game, but you know, making

902
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 8: sure you try to involve your best players any way

903
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 8: you can.

904
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Speaker 7: Coach the offensive line obviously, you know, we know about

905
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Speaker 7: the injuries and what you've had to deal with as

906
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 7: a staff throughout the course of the season, but it

907
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 7: kind of feels like they're getting into a little bit

908
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 7: of a rhythm with some connuity and and having this group.

909
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Speaker 7: What have you seen and why do you attribute this

910
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Speaker 7: growth process?

911
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's it's the offensive line is a

912
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 8: tough position. You usually need five guys operating as one

913
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 8: on each play. So the more they play together, the

914
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Speaker 8: more the communication improves. You know, they have, you know,

915
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 8: a variety of calls that they need to make and

916
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 8: be on the same page with and the more you

917
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 8: play together, usually you make improvements. And and that's what

918
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Speaker 8: we're trying to do coach.

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Speaker 7: You know, one of the things that you take a

920
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Speaker 7: look at, you know, third downs, right, and you guys

921
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 7: have been in a bunch of third and nine pluses

922
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Speaker 7: and some of that is a function of you know,

923
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 7: sacks allowed and and you know every sack comes with

924
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 7: a different story to it. What are some of the

925
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 7: things that you've worked with with Tommy DeVito as far

926
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Speaker 7: as that's concerned, as far as you know, taking less

927
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Speaker 7: of them, but continuing to not put the ball in

928
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Speaker 7: harm's way. Yeah, that's I mean, the first thing is

929
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Speaker 7: ball security offensively, but you know, sacks are are teams,

930
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Speaker 7: so there's a variety of reasons for the sacks that

931
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Speaker 7: we've had, and you know, each position group is working

932
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Speaker 7: on trying to improve in that area. And finally, coach,

933
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Speaker 7: Monday night, you know, you got to kill a lot

934
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Speaker 7: of time on Sunday, everybody else is playing, You're waiting

935
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Speaker 7: for the game on Monday night. Do the juices get

936
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 7: flown a little bit more when you when you bounce

937
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Speaker 7: out there knowing that you're the last game of the weekend.

938
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a it's an honor to play on Monday night.

939
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Speaker 8: You know, we have a great fan base. Uh, we'll

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Speaker 8: be here and we're excited to play. We're excited for

941
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Speaker 8: the opportunity and all we're trying to do is is

942
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 8: put our best foot forward and play a solid, complimentary game.

943
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Speaker 7: Coach, best of luck tonight. And we'll do it again

944
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Speaker 7: next week. But good luck tonight against the Packers.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Bob, We thank Brian Damio, Matt Schneidman, and of

946
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Speaker 3: course Tommy DeVito for joining us. Good job by Lance

947
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Speaker 3: and Bob and I hope you enjoyed this Friday edition

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Speaker 3: to gihont Total Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the

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Speaker 3: official bank of the Giants. Enjoy your weekend. We got

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Speaker 3: a couple more days here before the game on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Should be fun. Should be a fun game. Hope to

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Speaker 3: see you out there. Thanks for being with us on

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Speaker 3: the Johnsttle Podcast. We'll see you next time.