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Speaker 1: When you first got to the league, first start playing.

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Speaker 1: Who was the first person to bust your ass? First

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Speaker 1: person to bust my ass? I mean we could take

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Speaker 1: it to practice. I mean BJ definitely got me a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. And that was kind of a full

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Speaker 1: circle experience because yeah, because you remember, like I'm an

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Speaker 1: grew up watching him.

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Speaker 2: So Larry Drew was at TASF. I grew up watching

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Speaker 2: him because I went to TAFT. You got Drew Holliday,

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Speaker 2: you got Tomorrow, you got BJ, you got like all

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Speaker 2: those guys who were like seniors right when I was

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Speaker 2: in like eighth grade and going into ninth grade. So

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Speaker 2: like those were the dudes. So getting to Detroit and

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Speaker 2: the him being like on the team and being his team,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like that was kind of

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Speaker 2: full circle experience. I probably said BJ's first winning practice for.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Yo yo yo. We back live on location.

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Speaker 4: Man, we got the blackest one over here and all

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Speaker 4: his blue and black plunder. You feel me, he shining

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Speaker 4: on you, you know, La Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 3: Man, we got LA's on, We got LA's.

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Speaker 4: We got the NFT Big Coin, the blockchain wonder.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We got Spencer then with he in the building, this

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Speaker 4: was my rook in Detroit. Now he up here being

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Speaker 4: grown man status, putting buckets on people's heads, making deals

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Speaker 4: out there, making big coin things, do what they do. Man,

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Speaker 4: we pleased to have him that were about to learn something,

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Speaker 4: y'all am, We're gonna talk to a young baller. Appreciate you, bruh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I like about your story, Like

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Speaker 1: I always say, it's kind of harder for a guy

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Speaker 1: to beat the man coming in from the draft. And

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Speaker 1: as you beat a man and an organization got confidence

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Speaker 1: in you, they start to lose. Every time you go

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Speaker 1: to they start to lose confidence in you. Your story

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Speaker 1: is like they count you out and you persevered every situation.

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Speaker 1: Just speak on that to always just have confidence in yourself,

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Speaker 1: because I always preach confidence and players like confidence is

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Speaker 1: one of the most important things. You can easily lack

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Speaker 1: confidence by going to a coach, going to another team,

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Speaker 1: getting sent to the d League, or whatever. So just

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Speaker 1: tell us about the confidence of you never lacking the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the league's mostly built on

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Speaker 2: confidence and opportunity. I would say my confidence was built

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Speaker 2: just from like every stage. So at no point in

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Speaker 2: time was I ever like McDonald's or noumber playing with

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Speaker 2: class or any of that.

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Speaker 3: So how was this possible?

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Speaker 4: How can you be the you know, California basketball player of.

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Speaker 2: The Year because it only happened my senior year. Junior

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Speaker 2: wasn't rolling like that time out.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 4: If you're in California and you play in LA your

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Speaker 4: senior year year, you get the you get the Wooden Award.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that.

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Speaker 4: How do you not make McDonald's That had to be

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Speaker 4: like in California.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like you know.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying that.

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Speaker 4: Like to me, it's like, you know, you got to

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Speaker 3: Like if you missed, you like the dude in there

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Speaker 3: that's not almost a shoe?

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Speaker 2: Are Our guys my year were Jabari Brown who went

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Speaker 2: to Oregon Side Turn should have made the game, but

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Speaker 2: something happened. Remember, But like man, my class, my class

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Speaker 2: was Anthony Davis, Austin Rivers, Michael kid gil Christ. It

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Speaker 2: was all those guys hit us. We had dudes in

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Speaker 4: I'm not even this is no hate class, just astonishing

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Speaker 4: that the Wooden Award winning from California from like LA

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Speaker 4: didn't make it, Like I don't.

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Speaker 3: To me, it's always.

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Speaker 4: New York, Chicago back, uh, you know, LA, the big

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Speaker 4: cities always got at least one, and I guess, you

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Speaker 3: And not be in one of those games.

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Speaker 2: That's that's where I've always been. Yeah, I mean it

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Speaker 2: was it was normally you know what I'm saying. I had

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Speaker 2: to fight to get on varsity.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I had to to fight to start on varsity and

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Speaker 2: and he was a great vet and fifty year guy

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Speaker 2: I always had to like work through something, you know

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Speaker 2: I mean I probably rely on my parents too a

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Speaker 2: like yo, They had like kind of a no bs mentality.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: When I got hurt my first time, like I was

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Speaker 2: I was I was talking to my mom because she

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Speaker 2: you know, a sniffling and crying, I want to go

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Speaker 2: to the NBA, blah blah. She's like, so do it?

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Speaker 2: Like that that plane that flat like not like my baby,

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Speaker 2: this none of that.

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Speaker 6: She just looked at me and was like, so do it.

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Speaker 2: And I was sitting there like, well, damn, I guess

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Speaker 2: I better go figure out how to do it, you know.

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Speaker 1: So that's how my parents were. Do they give you

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Speaker 1: something because like one thing, I always had confidence in myself,

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Speaker 1: but that one person, like my mom, was that one person.

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Speaker 1: I knew that she had the same confidence in myself

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Speaker 1: and nobody else have to like me, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So is that the same way with your parents?

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Speaker 1: Like I just need them to support me and be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was. I was fortunate not to have three.

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Speaker 2: So I had my parents and I also had my

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, but growing up I had those three.

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Speaker 2: And so you can't tell me nothing because as long

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Speaker 2: as they said it's possible, up, I mean, at least

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Speaker 2: give it a try, feel me. So that's kind of

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Speaker 2: the way that I moved through life in jail.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So that's what I was about to ask, like

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Speaker 4: where did that you confident?

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Speaker 1: This?

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Speaker 3: Then third?

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Speaker 4: But where did the outspoken this with the confidence and

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Speaker 4: this man walked in the door second round, like hey, word,

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Speaker 4: like it's cool. You know I was second. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: So where did that come from? Because even you know,

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Speaker 4: I was there first two years on the ground every

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Speaker 4: when you went through that verse, you just that the

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Speaker 4: third like you never like not playing whatever. Sometimes you

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Speaker 4: get you know, the NBA humble you in a certain way,

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Speaker 4: but you never lost, like you said whatever your mom

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Speaker 4: and grandma and the soldier was like we used to

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Speaker 4: always talk about a me and maleigue. All the guys

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Speaker 4: were like, fucker still, like yeah, yay, his confidence ain't shaking,

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Speaker 4: like whatever happening, Like you know you struggled with this,

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Speaker 4: but it was like he still had that like where

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like I said, the road right, I

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Speaker 2: mean you look at it. I can say, damn, my

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Speaker 2: I also never lost one on one while I was there,

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Speaker 2: so I can look at it one t A. I

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Speaker 2: can go home and be like, damn, I'm in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: My family ain't here. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: BJ is busting my ass in the fives.

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Speaker 2: Or I could be like, shit, can't nobody see me

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Speaker 2: We're gonna figure it out, We're gonna get there.

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Speaker 3: Now, listen. I can attest to that.

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Speaker 4: They would play once after right, and that was like

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Speaker 4: respect because I used to be like, you know me,

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Speaker 3: Smother, who is he?

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Speaker 4: He come in here with all this confidence and sweat, like, bro,

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Speaker 4: he's second round, chill like he he talking a little

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Speaker 3: He's six six six seven. So I would watch him

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Speaker 4: It would be like BJ sometime DJ Augustin stan Lee

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Speaker 4: So it would be them kind of group and it

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Speaker 3: It's like what was that?

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Speaker 4: Then he doing saying now he's swagging right now like okay,

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Speaker 4: And I'll be telling him like look this one crazy dog.

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Speaker 4: He like like wait, talking shit. But he got and

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Speaker 4: I saw like okay, like now' the fucking score. Now

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Speaker 4: like when I first really got to start seeing like okay,

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Speaker 4: because I remember that being a big part of it

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Speaker 4: because they wasn't expecting you. You came along faster than

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Speaker 4: knew it was both of them things and he was

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Speaker 3: He picked it up.

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Speaker 1: You could have chose Harvard for for your cause, like

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Speaker 1: you know, like Harvard, I don't care how good you

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Speaker 1: that way to even get the opportunity and for them

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Speaker 1: to even offer you somehow was that Like that's big,

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Speaker 1: especially being a black kid.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's again mostly my mom, she was got

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Speaker 2: a PhD from USC, was a professor for a number

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Speaker 2: like there was no old, real like thought process that

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Speaker 2: like it's going to be like the NBA guy, you

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Speaker 1: Nah.

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Speaker 6: They went to you said that got side of my family.

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Speaker 1: You know what you want? Yeah, could have been anybody else.

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Speaker 1: Harvard. You're selling an organ.

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Speaker 2: My dad went on to visit with me to Orgon

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Speaker 2: I said, you say it was just on some like

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 1: We know I'm the last two Harvard and Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Yeah last two. Oh that's interesting last too, So those

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Speaker 1: To get the success like to go to the attorney, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Colorado ain't been to the courney like since two early

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Speaker 6: So that was crazy.

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Speaker 2: We actually had like the most successful stretch in Colord history.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, my freshman year, Carlin basically took us

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Speaker 2: I said I said this in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Uh the two best rebounds I've ever played with my

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Speaker 1: Did you know you had a perfect game that game?

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Speaker 2: And so there's almost a certain level of like calmness

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Speaker 1: How do you still have the confidence to declare from

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Speaker 2: I got off crutches. The images were solid in terms

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Speaker 6: We going in the second round?

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Speaker 2: And to me, I didn't know how to leave worked because,

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Speaker 2: the league, So I didn't know like old first round

441
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Speaker 2: picture tree like this top five picture treated like this

442
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Speaker 2: seconnd picture tree like this.

443
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Speaker 1: I just thought, ship.

444
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,320
Speaker 3: Show up.

445
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead, whin these whin these ones, figure

446
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,560
Speaker 2: out the game and we're gonna get it on the rocket.

447
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,040
Speaker 2: And honestly, if I had a known the way the

448
00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,639
Speaker 2: NBA works, I had left out of my sophomore year,

449
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 2: I would have never went back.

450
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Speaker 6: And I love Colorado, I love you coach Boyle, But

451
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,119
Speaker 6: to all the kids out there, if.

452
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Speaker 2: You are on a board, leave to not stay anybody

453
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,920
Speaker 2: if you were on a board, leave And if you

454
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Speaker 2: get like even the slightest bit of a promise in

455
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,359
Speaker 2: the first round, leave like dude, all this running back stuff. No,

456
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 2: don't do it because the way the game works, instead

457
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,879
Speaker 2: of saying what you could be, they're gonna say.

458
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 3: What you can't do, criticized.

459
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 1: Realize, no matter what pick you is, if you can't

460
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 1: play exactly like you know what picking, if you ain't ship,

461
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be there exactly.

462
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 2: And so that's pretty much all it happened. They were like, yo,

463
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 2: like you're gonna be in the second round, blah blah.

464
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, like I'm gonna show up.

465
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm a win, Like I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna

466
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 2: be like, look, I know y'all may view me a

467
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 2: certain way. I shouldn't have been a second round pick.

468
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 2: I'm here to work and get better and prove the

469
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Speaker 2: audit like I am who I was supposed to be.

470
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Speaker 2: And that was the mentality I had. And like he knows,

471
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 2: I get my wins when I could. I had some losses,

472
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Speaker 2: not ones, always win the ones except for against KD

473
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Speaker 2: kd K. Other than that though, ran the table. Any

474
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Speaker 2: team that I had, that's another thing too, to this day,

475
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 2: and people always laugh at this to this day. Any

476
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 2: teammate that I've had, I've been the the ones to.

477
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 3: Get up in the one on ones with easy want

478
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Speaker 3: to snipe the one is the problem player Durant one

479
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Speaker 3: on one?

480
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 1: Like, how was them one on one? Oh?

481
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Kyrie is probably the most skilled basketball player

482
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Speaker 2: that I've ever seen.

483
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Speaker 6: It's just that you got to use certain advantage that

484
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Speaker 6: you have at the time.

485
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm six six six wingspan stuff, So hey, listen,

486
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 2: as long as you stay a little solid, make sure

487
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 2: you don't put you on skates, which is a hard

488
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 2: thing to do. Best handles ever, you can test high,

489
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: can test a.

490
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Speaker 3: Little like this and just hopefully helpe you miss.

491
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Speaker 6: And he missed more than I missed.

492
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Speaker 3: I win, I win, you know what I'm saying.

493
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Speaker 1: So, so don't get about that seven foot of all

494
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Speaker 1: so that that's the that's the different.

495
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Speaker 2: One, especially like with the way that he shoots, Like

496
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Speaker 2: if you really look closely, it's almost like a obviously

497
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: lines was super exaggerate, right, but he does kind of

498
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 2: bring it like to the left and then brings it

499
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Speaker 2: over his head. And obviously seven foot, So I mean, shoot,

500
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Speaker 2: you you try your best. I mean, like you said,

501
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 2: he's depend upon how you view basketball. The first or

502
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 2: second best score of all time. It depend up on

503
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: if you view Kareem is like a scorer r right,

504
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: but like in terms of scoring versatility from like paint,

505
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 2: mid range, three deep, threes, et cetera. Like now like

506
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 2: he's got the entire package, ain't seven for he really

507
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 2: seven ft twos?

508
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: So on this jumper he don't even see you.

509
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 3: No, no, And then and the other you know other.

510
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 2: He kicks his leg out, so like you're talking about

511
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: seven foot slight thing kicked you. You got you got practice, right, Yeah,

512
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: you got you gotta do Yeah, you gotta do your

513
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: work early. And then because once he gets to a shot,

514
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: if you can't stop it, then yeh, he don't see you.

515
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: So that's that's how I took my only one on

516
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: one loss, coming to the league and going up down

517
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Speaker 1: g league, coming back up, teams waving you bringing you back.

518
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: When did it click? Like I know, I know it

519
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: clicked with the nets, but what clicked? And like how

520
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 1: an NBA team is structured? Because now this is your

521
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: third team and you kind of been up and down.

522
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: You see the little the favoritism in the locker room.

523
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: If you see who's you who's not? You see where

524
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 1: you can succeed in and where that's not successful for you.

525
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, you see the guys who party, You see

526
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 1: the guys who don't, you see the guys who work.

527
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: So for you to go up and down, up and down,

528
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: you had to figure out a pattern with some team,

529
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to get that click, to

530
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: start having the opportunity to have your career be successful

531
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Speaker 1: in this Oh yeah, when did it click with the

532
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: nets to come off? And it was like, yeah, this

533
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: is it. I can see my neck.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everything that's crazy as it sounds, everything

535
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: I needed to learn learned in Detroit. You feel me

536
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: like it was shoot two a days three our practices

537
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: each session, like it was tough, right, rookies didn't get

538
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: treatment times, like just all types stuff, right, So you

539
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: learn basically like the like bare knuckles like hard way

540
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: through the league, right, but also straight shoots. At the

541
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: same time, She's like, okay, like all right, is this

542
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: with the NBA is like I went to Chicago. They

543
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 2: sat me down right after they trade for Mike Carter

544
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: wims I'm gonna not guarantee deal or whatever, and they

545
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: said we're going to keep you. And I looked at

546
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: him and said, you just traded for Mike Carl Williams.

547
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: He was the rookie of the year. We're both six

548
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: six point guards. He gets paid like I think maybe

549
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: like three million dollars. I think I was on like

550
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: a four hundred thousand dollars nine. I wouldn't keep me

551
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: business wise business Two days later they cut me. I'm like,

552
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: there's no reason even lie like that. Like I'm sitting

553
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: here saying business wise, I wouldn't do that. You just

554
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: trade for the rookie of the year. Why would you

555
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: keep me?

556
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Speaker 6: Right?

557
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: So then you learned kind of that difference.

558
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Speaker 2: I would say, what saved my career and got some

559
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: of the love back was when I chose not to

560
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: go to China to make some money.

561
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Speaker 1: I went to Windy City.

562
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Speaker 2: Yeah, j Leigue Nate Lind's are My coach sat me down,

563
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: was like, look, I know the Jig's are grind.

564
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 6: I know I just saw you through training camp.

565
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: You should be on the NBA roster as long as

566
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: you respect me and you don't come down here like

567
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: you know I should be in the NBA blah blah blah.

568
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: I give you the ball and I'll let you get

569
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: yourself out of here, him said what he was like,

570
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 2: That's how I asked. I said, all right, we I'm

571
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: gonna do everything by part to win you some games, coach,

572
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: and went down there and it was my show.

573
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: I got to rock.

574
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: I got back to like playing because I hadn't had

575
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: a chance to rock since being her. And I went

576
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: straight from being hurt in twenty fourteen. You know what

577
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: I'm saying, sit on the bench twound fourteen, fifteen cent

578
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: on bench till I'm fifteen sixteen, getting cut in the

579
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen season, basically playing twenty sixteen is seventeen in

580
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: the D League, and then getting signed to the Nets

581
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: late and from there it was just taking the principles

582
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: that I learned Detroit. You show up two hours before practice,

583
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 2: you stayed two hours after. You know what I'm saying,

584
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: These are all things that I learned how to be

585
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: a pro in Detroit. So like in a lot of ways,

586
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: it's set the stage for everything that you gotta see

587
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: now because I learned how to be a pro in

588
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: the hardest system possible.

589
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 6: So I went to the Nets and it was easy.

590
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 3: I just was a pro.

591
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 6: I just did my thing. I was still the same guy,

592
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 6: still the same confidence.

593
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: But I learned the habits and the standards and the

594
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: manners and all the other stuff, and said I'm gonna

595
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: put everything on the line. And then I was fortunate

596
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: enough and kind of knock on wood that and not

597
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: fortunate enough because guys got hurt, you know, and when

598
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: they got hurt, and because I was on a bad team.

599
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 6: They said, fuck it, we'll get spensed.

600
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Speaker 3: Change.

601
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like they didn't go sign somebody because it was

602
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: win Now Motor. They just said I get like here,

603
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: we'll get spends a chance. And I was like, yo,

604
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: like I'm not letting this one go like period.

605
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's the old school mentality because

606
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the old school mentell they

607
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: make guys go through them steps back in the day.

608
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: These days, a lot of guys can skip so many

609
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: stuff that you get the few like you that go

610
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: in the second round, that's just as good as the

611
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: first round player. They got to go to this G league,

612
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: go to it because the organizations just don't believe in them.

613
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: Not that you're not good enough, they just don't believe

614
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: in you yet to succeed like.

615
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Speaker 4: That, I think what he just said, speaks to you know,

616
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: we always talk about but I think it's stamps.

617
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 3: It gives it a stamp of approval in a different way.

618
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: We always talk about how Miami is one of those

619
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: places right where nine times out of ten, if you

620
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 4: the right type of player and if you trying to

621
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: do the right thing, if you get drafted there, we

622
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 4: literally feel like you have a I don't know how

623
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 4: much percent, but a way better chance, and you're gonna

624
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 4: get a base, You're gonna get a foundation set of

625
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: how to be a professional and how to carry yourself,

626
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: and it's going to like you said, it's the hardest

627
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: of circumstances.

628
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: So after this, everything is easy. So you got the

629
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: same thing coming.

630
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 4: And I always put you know, staying in that family

631
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: because he's from the family tree, from the from the

632
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: family tree of that and he handled his business I

633
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 4: like identical almost to the Miami situation.

634
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: So what you came into was that exact thing.

635
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: And you're sitting here saying, did it prepared you even

636
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 4: though you weren't one of the guys You struggled up

637
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: and down this and that, and it didn't, so to speak,

638
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 4: go your way in Detroit. But the things that you

639
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: learned there from that system and from the way stand

640
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 4: goes about it and demands things from you that set

641
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 4: you off everything else along the way.

642
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: One thousand percent, Like as hard as it was to

643
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: go through that, as much as at the time, me

644
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: and staying bumped heads, like he definitely set the stage

645
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: in terms of like teaching me how to be a

646
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: pro just from the system and the culture, because like

647
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: you go from tape shoot arounds two three hour practices

648
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 2: a day to no shoot arounds, you know, show up

649
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: the gym when you want whatever, Like you know what

650
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying. That could be good and bad because if

651
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: you're not really about your work, they're not putting your

652
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: work in, then you fall off. And so for me

653
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 2: seeing like, Okay, this is what it could really mean

654
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: to be a pro. And if I really love this

655
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: game the way I say I do, and I really

656
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: have wanted it since four years old, am I going

657
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 2: to learn from it? And then this again goes back

658
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: to like the confidence in the mentality and all the

659
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: other stuff Like I could say BJ busting my ass

660
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: and fives, or I can say I want everyone on one.

661
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: I can say I never played in Detroit, or I

662
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 2: can say they taught me valuable lessons. Look, I never

663
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: played in Detroit, no bones about it like that. That's

664
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: just the facts of the matter. But they taught me

665
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: how to be a pro. And so when I got

666
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: to Brooklyn and they said, all right, no shoot arounds,

667
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: everybody's on their own, blah blah. And you see some

668
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: guys that were averaging a little bit more points a game,

669
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: but then wanted to go party and took advantage of

670
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: no shoot around so they can stay out later or

671
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: whatever it is. No, my process stays the same. On

672
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: off days, I come lift, I get in the sauna,

673
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: I do this. I have a shot routine.

674
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

675
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: Night before I want to go to the arena, fill

676
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: out the arena and all the other stuff. Like just

677
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: every single day you give me this free time, I'm

678
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: gonna maximize it. And those foundations beyond my parents obviously

679
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: were built in Detroit.

680
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 4: Now I'm glad to hear you say that, man, Cause

681
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: my man, you I feel like stan got a raw

682
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: deal in New Orleans and all that, even in Detroit.

683
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: You know, we was there. But like I'm a huge believer.

684
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 5: Man.

685
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: When I went to Miami and then you know, obviously

686
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: I went to Orlando after that, but like when I

687
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: got there, I was like I was looking around like yo,

688
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: like if I'd have been exposed, it's from day one,

689
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: like my whole career would have been different.

690
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: And I saw that.

691
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: Remember we saw that when l left. L O was

692
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: with us one, two, three years. Then he left and

693
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 4: went to Miami for one year and came back to

694
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: the Lakers and was like a different dude. I was

695
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: like that one year did that to him. And then

696
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: once I got theret I had was one year and

697
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: I saw what it felt. Then I followed it up

698
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: and went to Stand. And the thing I appreciated about

699
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: Staying spoke in that whole type of like you said earlier,

700
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: you've experienced it somebody who regardless of whether it's in

701
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: your favor or not, this person is telling you the truth,

702
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: and you know that they telling you the truth, and

703
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: it ain't like you know, the one thing I always

704
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: respected about Standing is that this ain't got nothing to

705
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: do it whether I like you or not. Exactly if

706
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: you're gonna help me win the game, you're gonna play.

707
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: And as long as you're doing the right things you

708
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: can help me win. I don't care what you can play.

709
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: It was never personal. So like when you say that

710
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: through all those things, speak volumes of me, because I

711
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: always felt like that. It's good to hear somebody who

712
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: it didn't necessarily work out for there, but you still

713
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: acknowledge what that foundation was laid out.

714
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: For you and what it did. So that's dope to hear.

715
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Like, I know you had them up and down the

716
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: first couple of years with you, but that year that

717
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: started clicking and D'Angelo Russell started swerving and vert y'all

718
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: whole squad, y'all made the playoffs, y'all started making some

719
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: noise in the league, like, how fun was that season?

720
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: Because it looked like y'all was a fun.

721
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: Team to watch? What was out the.

722
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: Big people, y'all putting up big time buckets on people.

723
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: So it looked like y'all was just having so much fun.

724
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: And I know that was probably the first year you

725
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: finally got some taste of Oh with that team, how

726
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: far was that season for you?

727
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Oh, that's been the most fun season in my career

728
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: for sure. So that was eighteen nineteen season. And yeah,

729
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: even though I played better in nineteen twenty you got a.

730
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: Bad got a thirty four little little pocketbook money not

731
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: take away my book money.

732
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: Nah, But eighteen nineteen it was just it was just

733
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: such a different like collection of guys like got to

734
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: credit Jared Delly is the VET, Ed Davis who was

735
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: a great VETAZ, great person, Randi Hodg, Jeffson's miss understoods

736
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: he is phenomenal dude to be around, Joe Harris, quality guy,

737
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: Jared Allen, and then obviously you got the three of

738
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: us who were, you know what I'm saying, putting in most.

739
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 6: Of the buckets. But like you know, it's just the team,

740
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 6: the camaraderie of it.

741
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: And when you talk to OG's a lot they talk

742
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: about missing that kind of camaraderie, and I think that

743
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: was probably the most special like group we had. And

744
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: probably also because, like you know, we all kind of

745
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: felt like peers, you know what I mean, and so

746
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: we kind of approached it as that, and it just

747
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: had a different.

748
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 6: Honestly, it was fun.

749
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: Though y'all looked like y'all had a ball, y'all dancing

750
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: on the side, was really rooting for each other's success.

751
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: You know, when we was younger, and teams have success

752
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: when you just rooting for you know, y'all was counted

753
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: out every fucking game, you know what I'm saying. A

754
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of these guys came from teams where they didn't

755
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: want them, they didn't feel like they were being successful.

756
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: All y'all was talented, and y'all shoulder and y'all clicked

757
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: with it, especially with you, D'Angelo and LeVert, Like, I

758
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: thought that was real special for how y'all so much

759
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: bucket getters, but y'all looked for each other in that,

760
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: So that was a special season for I'm definitely.

761
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: That's why I feel like you think you say y'all

762
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: felt like Piers because it was kind of all of

763
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: y'all was at the same point, trying to get out

764
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: the blocks, trying to become who y'all becoming, and all.

765
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: Of that stuff.

766
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: So how was it for you to be able to

767
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: go to All Star and be a part of the

768
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: you know, the skills competition. Actually winning that was a.

769
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: Lot of fun because when an opportunity came up, it

770
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: wasn't really on my radar. I didn't think it was

771
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: something that I was going to be like kind of

772
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: invited to do. And then it was also in LA

773
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: So when I won, like my family was there and

774
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: everybody kind of went crazy. Yeah, so it was a

775
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: cool little httle thing. And then you just realize, like

776
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: when you're in the All Star weeking in general, you

777
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: just kind of get a little bit different respect Now,

778
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: I said, at no level, because.

779
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: That's what you watched forever growing Up's what I'm saying.

780
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: You you actually got the moment that some of the

781
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: greatest players in the game don't get to sent up

782
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: there on that stage by.

783
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: Themselves and hold up whatever trophy is.

784
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: So I mean, I got to win a three point contest,

785
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: So that's still a lot of respect because like for me,

786
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, that's a moment that you

787
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: watched a million times definitely on TV growing up, we

788
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: all watched the All Star Game, All Star Game, and

789
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: it's like, you got that moment you get to stand

790
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: up there with the trophy, you get interviewed like that's like,

791
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, a culmination to.

792
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Me skill wise, like you an attacker, like you deep

793
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: in attack who put that mentality. I watched you come

794
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: out of out of college and you know how you

795
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: see these guys as they come from small colleges like Colorado, Tennessee, Baylor,

796
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: stuff like that, guys like that, and he'd be like, man,

797
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: he might eat them one like he a doll. Can

798
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: We watched you all in college and you know it

799
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: slows down in the NBA. But who put the mentality

800
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: of like the attack because when I watch your game,

801
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: like your attack is serious?

802
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Probably probably my dad, Really my dad. Uh, he should

803
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: have played sports that were not team warranted because he's

804
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: just out there like I don't understand.

805
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 6: You can beat the person in front of you, beat him,

806
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 6: And I'm like, it's a team game.

807
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: Help.

808
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 6: He's like no, but I don't get it. If you

809
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 6: can beat him, then just beat him like that.

810
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: And he would say that to me like since I

811
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,239
Speaker 2: was a kid, and I would always try to tell

812
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: him like, yo, it's a little different than that, but

813
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: you know, and so I think you take pieces of

814
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: those conversations, and that's.

815
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: What he was like, you can beat them, beat him

816
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: and slow down like uh. And Roy got drafted to

817
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: Portland when I was doing. One of the things that

818
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: I loved about him his control of his pace. Yeah,

819
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: you know how to go fast? You know how to

820
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: go medium, you know how slow it down just to

821
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: get off the screen and cut it back up. That's

822
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: things I see in you too, where you get to

823
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: stop and go the speeds the level. You don't be

824
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: out trying to be the fastest out there. You don't

825
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: be the slowest, but you know when to turn it

826
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: up when it's get in your spots. And what makes

827
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: you succeed on the court. Where you get that from?

828
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: Honestly, I would say probably just being a fan of

829
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: the game. First, I've watched basketball, like I says in Place,

830
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: I was four years old, and so you start to

831
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: see like all, like you said, Brandon Roy is super

832
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: effective doing it that way, Kobe was super effective doing

833
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: it another way. Then you got great point guards doing

834
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: it in a variety of different ways, Magic Johnson, you

835
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Just all these different players, Penny Hardaway, etc.

836
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 6: And so you're like, hold on, like, I don't have

837
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 6: to you know.

838
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Yeah, I don't.

839
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: I don't have to.

840
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't have to be a speed demon. I also

841
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: don't have to do this, Like I really can't. If

842
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: I can start to see the game the way that

843
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: these greats. Start to see it, and I know a

844
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: couple of steps ahead. I know if I step here

845
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: at the entire defense and go that way, and it's

846
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: all about like prediction too, if I know you're playing

847
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: drop coverage or whatever it is.

848
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Now I know when I come off the.

849
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: Screen, I'm gonna have this entire lane of way the

850
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: day the defense move and all that stuff. He's gonna

851
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: ice me. I'm already gone as soon as he ships

852
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: his feet, as soon as he.

853
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: Stays up chest and checkers.

854
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: There you go.

855
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: You got a dog with you now, you know that

856
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: boy from the Loo just and o Q, you know

857
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: he from the Loop. You got another dog with you.

858
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: And y'all so similar, you know what I'm saying, Like

859
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: and hide and build everything the way y'all work mid

860
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: range outside, you know, off the drive, off the screen,

861
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: like how it cited for you to just you know,

862
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: go to a new team, no new contract, new start,

863
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: coming off of a cl have a guy like Bradley

864
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: beal with you and ready to build for the future.

865
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: How except for I mean a.

866
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: Couple of things obviously, Like for me, from organization perspective,

867
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: I've never been in a situation where they had that

868
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: much confidence in me. Right, So now I'm one beat,

869
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: which is which is dope? Right, And so I'm excited

870
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: and want to push my limits. Right in terms of

871
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: Brad as our one a like, I've never played consistently

872
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: with somebody as good as him, right, Like obviously we

873
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: have KD, Kyrie and shoot now even Harden on the

874
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: NETS roster, but remember, like I.

875
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: Didn't get a chance to play with him like that.

876
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: I played with Kyrie I think fifteen games or something

877
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: like that the year that he strugged with the shoulder,

878
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: and then I didn't play really at all last year.

879
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 6: So if you take that kind of out, there was

880
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 6: definitely the best player I've played with.

881
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: And you know, a guy that led the league and

882
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: scoring like and can get not just thirty forty, any forty,

883
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you know, I think

884
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: for me, it's like it's fun one, it's you know

885
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, exciting. I think there's also gonna be

886
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: a lot of ways I can learn from him, you

887
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like he's reached the level in

888
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: the NBA that I haven't reached, you know, Like I

889
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: would say my highest level in nineteen twenty Irige twenty

890
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: and led a team to the playoffs.

891
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 6: But I never made an All Star game on an

892
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 6: All NBA team. You know what I'm saying. These are

893
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: things that he's done.

894
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: So you know, I still have two more levels that

895
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: I hope to reach what I'm saying at some point

896
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: in time. And you know, if anything I can learn

897
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: from even though we're the same age, like, he's played

898
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: at that level and and sustained it.

899
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm excited. How optimistic are you about

900
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: this year? I mean, I feel like they, you know,

901
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: reunite with our boy Ksep. You know what I'm saying,

902
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: he gonna be out there, and it makes me know

903
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: he a dog got trads, you know what I'm saying.

904
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 4: I feel like y'all made out with some good pieces

905
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: cools coming like, you know what I'm saying. How you

906
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: feel about you know, the outlook of the season coming up.

907
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 6: I think definitely our goal should be playoffs.

908
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't know which seat and that type prediction, stuff

909
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: like health and things are gonna matter a ton and

910
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: all that, but yeah, like you know, but.

911
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 6: Playoffs should definitely be our goal.

912
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 3: You know, we have depth.

913
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 6: I think we want to see really continue to take

914
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 6: next steps because he.

915
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: Gonna be nice. Drew Drew Goodness, my neighbor, and he

916
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: does broadcast for y'all. He calls the game, so we

917
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: talk about your team, like y'all got y'all got a lot,

918
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: uh you know, like young town. Like I'm excited to

919
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: see Thomas Brian get healthy and get back in the

920
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: fold because he was before he got hurt.

921
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: And I think y'all got a nice crew. Man.

922
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: I think you know how it go, like people gonna

923
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: predict what they predict, but you know how it is

924
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 4: when you get in that locker room.

925
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: I think if y'all lock it in together, y'all have

926
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: to do some ship.

927
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 6: No, for sure, I'm with you. I think we we

928
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 6: have to establish a culture standard.

929
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

930
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: Obviously that's on Bill and then myself to spearhead that.

931
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: But we have a lot of time. I mean, remember

932
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: cous was a seventeen eighteen points a game score in

933
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: the league. Like I said, ruly, you want to take

934
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: next steps? Gaffords a guy in that Jared holly Mould right,

935
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: Like who just Jared Allen is gonna hunted men?

936
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean so like athletic.

937
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like run the floor, block shots, dunket you know

938
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, good hands, all that stuff.

939
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: So like we got to come together. We have a

940
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 6: lot of steps to go.

941
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: Like it is not a finished probably it's not a

942
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: you know, just walk out on the floor and Milwaukee

943
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: Bucks nets type stuff, but like we have a chance.

944
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 6: And and Bill being a forty point type or you

945
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 6: always got punch his chance.

946
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you got good.

947
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: You got forty and hopefully twenty for me, you got

948
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: sixty on the board. So like, let's let's get it.

949
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: Let's get it right.

950
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: Last year, the playoffs and the whole playoffs and all

951
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: this stuff was so hyphed. How much her did you lose?

952
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: Knowing like, man, I wish I could get out there

953
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: and just play for my close for you.

954
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: You Yeah, I heard it exactly like you might've been

955
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: been able to get out there. How close was that?

956
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: Very like, uh, you know, my agent would cringe at

957
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: that all the time because he wanted me, you know

958
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, to wait because of fredency and whatnot.

959
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: But not very close, like if we could have got

960
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: past that round, like I was going to report back

961
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: go through like all the progressions and try to get

962
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: back playing. When I took the three thirty five to eighteen,

963
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: that was the whole goal, like build towards the championship

964
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: type roster because you know, obviously you wait till Freende'd

965
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: probably get more than what twelve million a year, But

966
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: that was the goal. And so to be right at

967
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: that goal and to have it kind of in your hands,

968
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: but understand it. And it's not just even to myself.

969
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: We got hardened with the hamstring, kyrie, the ankle, you

970
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying myself, Like that's you know, hard

971
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: is a thirty point games score carriers twenty five point

972
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: games scoring, and I was a twenty point game score

973
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: Like that's seventy five points.

974
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 4: Oh you said, listen, I guaranteed if no enteres y'all,

975
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: y'all running away with all this other talk ain't about nothing, no.

976
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, like I wasn't even regardless of myself,

977
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: even if you were not there, I would have had

978
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: a ring, yeah then obviously, you know, and sly adding

979
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: myself on top of.

980
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: That for sure winning a ring for sure, Like what's

981
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: that feeling though, like to be on a team like that,

982
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: like to know, like in the beginning to see Eason

983
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: though even though like you say, you you weren't able

984
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: to be out there like when it when you watching

985
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 4: this cam the you're like, am I about to get

986
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: a ring?

987
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: My mind? Like that was that there was not down

988
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: in my mind, There was not done my mind. People,

989
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: I have this wonder. Man.

990
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: I had people from my hood talking about he you're

991
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: about to get a GMS ring out of players ring

992
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: because it's like I don't know.

993
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 3: Which which finger you won't boss?

994
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: Like come on, man, that I had not a doubt

995
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: my money, I know, especially when you're on the team,

996
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: just and you know what your team is going through

997
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: doing them times and seeing how close they was, just

998
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: without all that, I know, you just you lose her.

999
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Like man, if I was out there in that moment

1000
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: and being.

1001
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: Through you know, four five seasons, you get a kind

1002
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: of a fel this ain't easy, Like this is crazy

1003
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: to be in to have a chance. I feel like

1004
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 4: you are a perfect example to everybody to stay the course,

1005
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: keep fighting, keep believing, keep going because of everything, like

1006
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 4: look at your story. You know what I'm saying, you

1007
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: should have been a lottery pick. You blew out your knee,

1008
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 4: you probably would have been picked way higher before that.

1009
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 4: Then you know what I'm saying, get to the league,

1010
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: things don't go your way. Then you get back on,

1011
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: you grind, get out the league, all the way out

1012
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 4: to the G League, and you still. Like for me,

1013
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: I feel like you the picture for any kid out

1014
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: there that's going through anything, kid that just flew.

1015
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: Out his knee towards his shoulder or whatever.

1016
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: And it's like he down thinking, he out Like you

1017
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: are a prime example in a picture of like it

1018
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: ain't over. You are an example for all of these kids,

1019
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 4: and you are somebody they could look up to like

1020
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: cause you ain't gotta be an underdog. You know what

1021
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You ain't got to be number one pick.

1022
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: You ain't got to be this. You ain't got to

1023
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 4: be the guy the feature to keep going. I'm looking

1024
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: at your training, how you went through it this year,

1025
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 4: like to see how you were shredded.

1026
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1027
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: I saw you came to do a physically and everything

1028
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: you got bigger, you got stronger, everything explosiveness.

1029
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: Do you ever look at it like that?

1030
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: I would say sometimes in like the quiet most when

1031
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm talking to my parents, like they'll talk like that.

1032
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: But a lot of times I think, when when you're

1033
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: running the race, you're kind of caught up in the race, you.

1034
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

1035
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 6: So in tunnel vision, yeah, like you always had the

1036
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 6: next step.

1037
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: Like, for example, when I got hurt this time, my

1038
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: whole goal was I wanted to have the fastest a

1039
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: cel covering history. I wanted to make it back for

1040
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: the championship, like if I could, that was a goal.

1041
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: And I felt like if I set that goal, which

1042
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: was you know, way up here, even if I missed

1043
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: it by a little bit, I'd be fine for free agency,

1044
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: I'd be fine for next season, I'd be fine for

1045
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: But then obviously to do some of that, then that's

1046
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: when like the conversation my parents will come about. Like

1047
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: because when the nets got knocked out and I was

1048
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: going to like go on vacation, my parents had that

1049
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: conversation with me, like you realize that you just had

1050
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: a fast a serial covering history, And I was.

1051
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 6: Like, oh, well, yeah, I mean I did.

1052
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: But like my my goal was, like I want to

1053
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: get back to the championship, like because even if I'm

1054
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: only playing ten minutes, a game like to be out

1055
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: there to experience that because I'm thinking, like I said,

1056
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: there was no doubt.

1057
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: In my mind.

1058
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: There was not a got in my mind, Like if

1059
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: Harden and Currie play and I'm not playing, like like,

1060
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: we still win it. So if I'm getting out there

1061
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: in ten minutes and just experiencing it, the championship, just

1062
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: the focus being locked, then the dedication in the atmosphere,

1063
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: all the other stuff, like I'm like, shit, like that's

1064
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: my campass. If I have a shot, I'm taking that

1065
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 2: shot because we're gonna win regardless.

1066
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: I definitely want to be a part of it.

1067
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: I can even gotta just know, like when it's in

1068
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: the team sport, like man, ten minutes is an important

1069
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: ten minutes.

1070
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 6: If I can get there taking charge.

1071
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's important. Let me tell you this, say this,

1072
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: tell them how important it is for like the weight room.

1073
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of these kids feel like

1074
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: you can just go in the gym and shoot a

1075
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: thousand shots and you're just gonna automatically be good, and

1076
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: they leave out the weight room part of it. I

1077
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: was one of them kids that I didn't grow up

1078
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: in the weight room. I just grew up in the gym. Yeah,

1079
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: I feel like that's why my injuries got to my

1080
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: injuries because I didn't keep my body it's strongest as

1081
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: a littlebron and some of these guys, so that's the

1082
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: reason they have longngevity. You know what I'm saying. I

1083
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: seen you this something, like I followed you. I seen

1084
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: you this something. Man, some of the stuff you was

1085
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: doing I'm talking about jumping from box to box and

1086
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: all this.

1087
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: I was like, man, that's crazy.

1088
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: Like, tell them how pod that part of even though

1089
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: if you had an a cl and you had to

1090
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: do with that, you still, even when you don't got

1091
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: an AX, you got to put that same type of

1092
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: work in and tell them how important that is.

1093
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, shout Mike g my my trainer,

1094
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: because you know obviously he but Mike it moving on Instagram.

1095
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: But but no, I mean to your point. I think

1096
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: I think you said it right. It comes down to

1097
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: dur ability. I learned that after my first a c

1098
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: L and then obviously going to the trot and all

1099
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: that stuff, And I think I had a very high

1100
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: durability up until this last one, like just the games

1101
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: play and all the other stuff I had, like a

1102
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: hand invury one time. But that's kind of you know

1103
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: what it is. But I think the guys who really

1104
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: dedicate to their body eat right, get enough to sleep,

1105
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: or in the weight room stuff like that.

1106
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: Cook their own meals and stuff.

1107
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: At this table, there is one person who is the

1108
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: best at working at a big green egg and grilling

1109
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: and stuff, and that would be quickly you.

1110
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: Might got the egg.

1111
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: He might have seen.

1112
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 4: Then I agreed while he was still in college, so

1113
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: he't for the thing I had a green egg.

1114
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: Don't disrespect me like I.

1115
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: Haven't seen them with you know what I'm saying.

1116
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 6: I'm the best girl at the table anyway.

1117
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: No, but but in honestly, like you said, man, I

1118
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: think you know, some people talk about getting too baff

1119
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: for being too strong with whatever, you know, like the

1120
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: weight room.

1121
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 6: The biggest key that gives you is that dur ability,

1122
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 6: you know.

1123
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously part of this game is being available,

1124
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: you know, especially if you're not the number one guy.

1125
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: If your number one guy, you can kind of be

1126
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: injured in miss games and do different things. But one

1127
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: of the pieces to my career was when that person

1128
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: did get hurt, whether it's Jeremy Lynn or Sean kak

1129
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: Patrick or Danzel Russell or even Carris like I was

1130
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: always ready, like and I was available, I wasn't like, ah,

1131
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: you know my ankle sword to night, I can't go either.

1132
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: And so they go down the bench again and say,

1133
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna give it to Shabbaz Napier or

1134
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: Chris Chose or whatever.

1135
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 6: No, hey, listen, I'm here.

1136
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: The guys that they say is the best players, the Kobe's,

1137
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: the Jui into Lebron. They are monsters in that weight room.

1138
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: Like a lot of these young kids think they run

1139
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: into the gym and they working on move after move.

1140
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: But you see Jordan change his body and be a

1141
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: different player when he going against Detroit. You see Kobe

1142
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: in there. They think Kobe, yeah, he show up to

1143
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: the gym late, but he hitting that weight room just

1144
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: as much as he hitting that gym. And with Lebron

1145
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: spending million dollars on his body every year, that's different.

1146
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1147
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: That's like, that's the next level. Yeah, that's you gotta do.

1148
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 2: You gotta have a ninety million out of high school

1149
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: to spend. I dropped down, can't afford that, Like he look.

1150
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: Nine years in the league. I just look speaking on Kobe, right,

1151
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: you're an l A kid.

1152
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: I know first hand. I don't think you've ever worn anything. Well,

1153
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: actually you have after you got your own situation. You

1154
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: had before your own shoe situations, you had nothing but Kobe.

1155
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: So you warm a you changed the twenty six.

1156
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: Tell me the significance of Kobe and an impact he

1157
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: had on you and your basketball career.

1158
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: So you know, we all have idols of people that

1159
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: we look up to, and like I talked a little

1160
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: about my family, nobody played basketball. It was academics and

1161
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: all this other stuff. So you look for kind of

1162
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: that that figure that you can attach to in the

1163
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: lane you want to go down. And Kobe was by

1164
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: far that guy. Right, Like I tell you, I started

1165
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: playing basketball at four. That's basically right when he got

1166
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: into the league.

1167
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1168
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 6: He got in the league in ninety six.

1169
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: I was born ninety three, you know, a Lakers fan

1170
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: through and through LA guy, like I grew up with

1171
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: his career, like all the pieces, Like when you talk

1172
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: about perseverance, like that starts with my parents. But then

1173
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: when your favorite player has you know, the mama mentality

1174
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: and the you know, I played with a broken finger

1175
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: and I keep going and nothing stops me, and I

1176
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: work out. I get up at six am and work

1177
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: out Like those stories like as a child, like you

1178
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: start to aspire to beat book stick with you, and

1179
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: so you got you know, your parents pushing you in

1180
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: a certain lane and you believe in them. But then

1181
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: you got your like basketball idol, right, and so you

1182
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: go through that process like chasing that dream, chasing that

1183
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: ghost in a sense. And and obviously we played different positions,

1184
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: so there it wasn't so much like chasing his career path,

1185
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: but like just in terms of how he like approached

1186
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: the game and thought about it and how can I

1187
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: be one percent better?

1188
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 6: And you know, just stuff like that. Like that's where

1189
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 6: you get a lot of that from too.

1190
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 4: How was it, I want to say, I was there

1191
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: when you first met him? Was that Ryan introduced you

1192
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 4: bj BJ? So look, I remember we at the game,

1193
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 4: and I remember for the game like yo yo if

1194
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 4: I just get in, like just getting it was shipping right.

1195
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: So I remember, like you know, the game, and I

1196
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: remember BJ like calling the moment.

1197
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 4: I remember him being a dnad like like tell me

1198
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: walk me through that moment. I remember seeing it in

1199
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: us laughing and you know, like tell me you that

1200
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: kid has been watching him forever, like when you got

1201
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 4: to meet him and you in the NBA.

1202
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: Too, Like how was that for you?

1203
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: Well, so for me it was it was crazy because obviously,

1204
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: like your parents always teach you, like, you know, you're

1205
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: fear no man.

1206
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 6: Every man bleeds like you know, start nothing, but you.

1207
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: Finish it all.

1208
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1209
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like there was for because

1210
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: of the way like my basketball career just life and

1211
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: all that stuff, it panned out like that was the exception.

1212
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 6: That was the one exception.

1213
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: And then also because his career was also kind of

1214
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: ending as I was coming in, so I never really

1215
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: had to like play him playing for real, so like

1216
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: a Lebron and stuff where like a lot of my

1217
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: boys like, oh my god, Lebron, it's like.

1218
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: I gotta go play that man. Hear none of you

1219
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: give him, you know what I'm saying, Where.

1220
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: It's like there was never going to be a time

1221
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: where me and Kobe really had to like cross pass

1222
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: like competitively, so he just.

1223
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 6: Got to remain like the guy.

1224
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so when you know they called me over

1225
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: and it was time to like meet him for real,

1226
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: not just like a kid like, oh, hey, can I

1227
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: get this autographic? Like like I like, hey, like I'm Spencer,

1228
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: what's up? It was like I was, you know, I'm

1229
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: twelve years old again, you know what I'm saying in

1230
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: a sense. And then actually getting to like talk to

1231
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 2: him a little bit more like later as I started

1232
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: to hoop a little bit more and kind of having

1233
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: some different level of respect. I talked about that moment

1234
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: for the Hawks game like and for him to like

1235
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 2: acknowledge me is like Noah, like bro, like you really

1236
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: doing your thing? Like it was like hold on wait,

1237
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: like I know, yeah, I know he's walking a little bit.

1238
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 3: I text a little bit.

1239
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: But like like you've been watched, like I thought you

1240
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: were just being nice, like you actually watched me, like

1241
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1242
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: It was it was kind of crazy.

1243
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: So that was the one person from a basketball perspective

1244
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: that was just it's just always separate, you know what

1245
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And that's not a shot at a Lebron

1246
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: or even a shot at like a Michael is just

1247
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: like how I grew up.

1248
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 6: I came know what I'm saying, how.

1249
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 4: Was it for him to tell you in twenty twenty

1250
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 4: when you was that close like that you are all

1251
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 4: Star in my book?

1252
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: Like yeah, cold, like that's.

1253
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

1254
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: Like that that moment right there was crazy because like

1255
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, I had gotten to a point where like

1256
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: I could text him every now and then stuff like

1257
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: that like that's probably starting like twenty eighteen or so,

1258
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: and you know, he offered me like or it said

1259
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: like hey, like you know when you're la, like let's

1260
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: catch up.

1261
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 6: And I never really got a chance to do that.

1262
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: But even when he says like I was watching like

1263
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: you're like come on, like you ain't ain't really watching it?

1264
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: The next everything, you know what I'm saying, Like you're like,

1265
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: all right, bro, like way you see everything.

1266
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've heard from bait, but uh nah.

1267
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: But when he said it, you know what I'm saying,

1268
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: and really from a gym perspective, you know, look at

1269
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: me in the eye like spens like you're really doing

1270
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: your thing, like like you all star.

1271
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 6: I was like hold on, like the man, give me

1272
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 6: the real respect, like like hey like doing it.

1273
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 4: I'm glad he's saying this because this is no different

1274
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: than we came into the league and it was him

1275
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 4: j And I'm sure for the younger guys coming in

1276
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: and they looking at Lebron like whoever you you speaking

1277
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: of it from a different generation, but we said it

1278
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: time and time again on this show, like when you

1279
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: come into the NBA, and Kobe was even that like

1280
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 4: as a peer for us, it doesn't matter when whoever.

1281
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: Has that title is the dude.

1282
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 4: When that dude is the dude, every single body else

1283
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 4: want to be seen by the dude, Like you're not

1284
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: just out here just doing known like nah, he.

1285
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: Need to know I'm one of them.

1286
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 4: Like I'm saying, when you, no matter how it comes across,

1287
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 4: when you feel did they see you? That's a different

1288
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 4: talk about that feeling, like when you feel oh wait,

1289
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 4: he acknowledged me.

1290
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: He know.

1291
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: Oh man, listen that validation because especially like I said,

1292
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: with like my career path and like being counted out

1293
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: and never being McDonald's or all start whatever, there's not

1294
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: very many people that you look at and hear good

1295
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: things from or sing your praise or whatever. So you

1296
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 2: start to say, like all right, I'm gonna get validation

1297
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: from my parents one day. I want to get validation

1298
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: from Kobe, you know what I'm saying, Like I want

1299
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: to get validation from dropping forty on this specific player.

1300
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: Like you'll start to like my first start in Brooklyn

1301
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: was against the Calves and so like I was like, oh,

1302
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: like I need to be Lebron in my first start

1303
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 2: Like that was. So you're picking these moments and it's

1304
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: not about what everybody else is saying, because you ain't they.

1305
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 6: Gonna take it, gonna happen, good stuff.

1306
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna pick these moments and if I really

1307
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: do what I need to do, like these moments will happen.

1308
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: And so you think these things and you hold on

1309
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: these things almost like a child, right, So when he

1310
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: said that, yeah, I mean it's like hold on, no, no,

1311
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: like you're really watching me, like you know I've been hooping.

1312
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 6: Like I mean, I know I've been hooping, but you

1313
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: know I've been hooping.

1314
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: That's the race that the common fan don't see. Like

1315
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: talking to Tatum the other day, obviously he went down

1316
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 4: against the nets this year. Yeah, y'all knew what he

1317
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 4: was on and he was felt you feel me, like

1318
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: that's that fight. And then you see when they eliminate

1319
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: the Celtics, you see hard and you see Kyrie. I mean,

1320
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: obviously Kyrie gonna do it, but gee, all of those

1321
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: main dudes go up.

1322
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: To Tatum to pay that respect.

1323
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 4: Like boy, like we know JB was you was out

1324
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 4: here kind of winging it, but like, well you gave

1325
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 4: us everything we wanted and like you know, as a

1326
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 4: as a player, like I feel like that's why we

1327
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 4: exist on this podcast right now because us as young boys,

1328
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 4: we didn't.

1329
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: Win a lot.

1330
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: We didn't go and you know, shake up the league

1331
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: in that term of like winning championships, were going and

1332
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 4: contending or going to play, like we just made noise

1333
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 4: because we was bald exactly. I know what you mean,

1334
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 4: like because I was watching it. You was game hers,

1335
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 4: but I'm like, damn specially like I'm talking about for real.

1336
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: You remember a couple of times I hit you like hey,

1337
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 4: I see you boy, you got got your ship going,

1338
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: like I see you, and it was cool and dope

1339
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 4: to see, especially.

1340
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: The way it happened, like see you go out be

1341
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 3: completely out.

1342
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: And I feel like people, you know what I'm saying,

1343
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 4: some people in your story won't acknowledge that and understand

1344
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: what that part I mean, because some people just think

1345
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 4: it just like boom boom, oh this happened. No, No,

1346
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm telling you this is an intrigral part right here.

1347
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 4: When you like, I'm in the G League, I'm not

1348
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: on assignment and the like you said, you said you could.

1349
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: Have took you different.

1350
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: You tell you what that is like, bro, when you're

1351
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 2: when you're when you're on assignment in the G League,

1352
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: I might as well be Lebron when I go down there,

1353
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: cause they're gonna give me the five star hotel, they're

1354
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: gonna put them in the hog they they're gonna put

1355
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: me in the four seasons what so what you.

1356
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: Don't even stay in the same living because then when

1357
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: you go down you you big balling in. You saw that.

1358
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 3: It's like that's in a savory situation.

1359
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 6: You go from you go from being the fifteenth man

1360
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 6: to Lebron, and they run on a place.

1361
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: For you, all this other stuff and who ever been

1362
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: the man they got to sit here and well.

1363
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 2: And they get there watching so this is weird little

1364
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 2: friction and so you kind of go down there, it's

1365
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: like it's kind of weird. She's like, all right, whatever,

1366
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm only gonna be down here two three games whatever,

1367
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: and you bounce when you go down there for real, Right,

1368
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: that's it.

1369
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: You're there for now. You know how they end.

1370
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 6: You're sharing a room the whole nine double beds like

1371
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 6: all that.

1372
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 3: You got a roommate. What your bed right here? His

1373
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 3: bed right there? I share the same bathroom?

1374
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: What what?

1375
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 3: Listen?

1376
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: Listen, you got six hour bus rides At one time

1377
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: we were we were done playing and I think like

1378
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: Grand Rappers and took a six hour bus ride to

1379
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: like Erie, Pennsylvania or something like that. Like there's all

1380
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: types stuff that goes on. Man, it's different. And remember

1381
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: like if you're if you're looking at China, you're like,

1382
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: oh I can go get I forget what was Yeah,

1383
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: it's probably I think I think was only like a

1384
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: man one. Yeah it was one something like go to

1385
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 2: China or you can get twenty five thousand dollars playing

1386
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: the G League.

1387
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 3: That's what you looking at it like big slice of

1388
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: humble pie.

1389
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 6: And you're looking at it like boy, I don't know,

1390
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 6: I don't know, like is that dream for me?

1391
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: Or should I just take this back?

1392
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like because you know you

1393
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: string together four five, six China years. You get a

1394
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: little tax free bread. You start to plot out like Okay,

1395
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: I could have a nice little life, Like it could

1396
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: all work out. Okay, Like you know what I'm saying.

1397
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: You put a couple million dollars away. You're a smart guy.

1398
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: You'll figure it out. Like you're starting to think something

1399
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: in that round and you're like, hold on, I didn't

1400
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: settle and go to Harvard. Why the fuck would I

1401
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: settle now? Like we're gonna take this twenty five thousand.

1402
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to roll.

1403
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 6: These dice, make it shake.

1404
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: And like I said, oh right, yeah, Nate Lindzer, my

1405
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: DA League coach, helped save the entire situation.

1406
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 6: But nah, that's super super slice humble pie.

1407
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm in there sharing rooms with actually one of

1408
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: my French ma la Wesley Saunders, Like it was crazy.

1409
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Like you know how some things,

1410
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, they want a basketball player to be a

1411
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: basketball and I want a basketball player to have a brain.

1412
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's intimidating when you see a basketball player that

1413
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: actually got a brain in his head and speak up

1414
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: for itself. Sometimes some people take that as being arrogant

1415
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: when that's not being just thinking for myself. I know

1416
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: what I want to do. How was that for you

1417
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: to have teams that know that about you, that know that,

1418
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: oh he gonna think for itself. He's not the guy

1419
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: that do that and try to lightweight. I don't want

1420
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: to say to use the word discriminate, but you know

1421
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

1422
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that was probably the hardest part

1423
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: about adjust to the NBA for me, like and learn

1424
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: the business, just because like it was flipped on me

1425
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: in a sense and it was like guys, like, if anything,

1426
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the most authentic hooper you got

1427
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: because I really truly live and breathe should I really

1428
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: truly wanted to do this.

1429
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 6: So I was four, like, yeah, I could have went

1430
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 6: to Harbord, but I chose this, Like I chose this struggle.

1431
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: I wanted to do this, you.

1432
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

1433
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: And obviously don't be wrong, like my family didn't really

1434
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: have money like that. We just were smart people.

1435
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1436
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: So, but I chose that passeng step of saying like, oh,

1437
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: I'll just be a doctor and make you know, I'm

1438
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: saying one hundred, two undred and three hundred thousand a

1439
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: year f until eighty.

1440
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 6: I don't want to do that, you know what I'm saying.

1441
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 6: I wanted to do what I do.

1442
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: And so, you know, regardless of what you threw at me,

1443
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: like there was still authenticity there of like wanting to

1444
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: do it where it's like a god of guys who

1445
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: were like I got my first bag, you free the slave.

1446
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm gone, I don't even really want to like that,

1447
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying.

1448
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: So that was probably a struggle for me just because

1449
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: like I just really wanted to play basketball, saying.

1450
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: That's so tell me you spoke on it a little bit,

1451
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 4: But how hard was that for you coming from a family,

1452
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 4: like you said, where there's nobody who played sports or

1453
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: nobody who's looking at it like this is what you like?

1454
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 4: And you say, you got all these people that went

1455
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: to different schools, college, educational, DNA, see that you could

1456
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 4: go to Harvard, and you like, nah, like obviously your

1457
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 4: basketball people you can't go to Harvard, like you know

1458
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, But like, how was that, you know

1459
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 4: the difference from like your basketball people saying you.

1460
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: Can't go to Harvard? Then your family like this is

1461
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: the biggest thing. Yeah. I was like what you mean, Like,

1462
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: how was that dealing with that? As you know, a sixteen,

1463
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: seventeen year old kid.

1464
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: Again, I have to give full credits to my parents

1465
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: because they allowed, you know what I'm saying, a seventeen

1466
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: year ol.

1467
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 4: Kid to make a grown man decision Like for them,

1468
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 4: I gotta salute the parents, because who's gonna let you

1469
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: turn down Harvard like not knowing.

1470
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: Whether the end really I wasn't McDonald's.

1471
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't like the NBA was guaranteed, like and you know,

1472
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: it was something I was gonna have to fight for,

1473
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: and you know I also see kept too. The third

1474
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: choice was Ucla. I didn't go there because I was

1475
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: just kind of like a will take you your you

1476
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, state player to your or city

1477
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: player or whatever. It was like, we'll take you, you

1478
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, because it'll look bad if we

1479
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: don't get you. But they didn't really want me. So

1480
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: I turned down Harvard and Ucla to go to Colorado

1481
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: because they were like, we're in the Pac twelve, but

1482
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: we need you, Like if you're here, we have a

1483
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: chance and I'm like, shoot, if I go Hoop, I

1484
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: go to PAC twelve, they got the most pros.

1485
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: Right now, all I gotta do is do my job,

1486
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Not this part of I

1487
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: want to pull my pen and pad out because you

1488
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: was about to put your whole contract and cryptocurrency. Yeah,

1489
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: I've been hearing stuff back and forth. Talk to a

1490
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: few people about crypto currency. Everybody tell us just the

1491
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: new waves. And you took a big step because you

1492
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: were the first one that wanted to walk through the

1493
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: door and trying to put not only the world, but

1494
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: you making the NBA hip to what's going on outside

1495
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: of you know, the NBA just circle, How was that

1496
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: and just tell us the process of everything and why

1497
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: it didn't go down and why you wanted it to happen.

1498
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh man, now this I can shoot. I can

1499
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 6: talk about this for three hours.

1500
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: Now.

1501
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at any any entertainment industry, right

1502
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: which at the end of the day, that's who we are, right,

1503
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: that's why you know the guy but to the seat,

1504
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, or who they are in

1505
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: the country so big and TV money and all that stuff,

1506
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: Like people think that the most important part sometimes is

1507
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: the NBA organization, the shield, or the team or even

1508
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: the player, Like technically it's not the most important part

1509
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: is the fan as long as they spend money to entertainment,

1510
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: we got a job then from their Secondarily, the players

1511
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: the second most important piece because we have to actually

1512
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: be producing to entertain them, you know what i mean.

1513
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: And that's why some sports don't make a lot of

1514
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: money because the fans don't want to spend their money there,

1515
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So the whole reason they're

1516
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: spending money is to get closer to the people the problem,

1517
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: whatever it is they want, which is the player. So

1518
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: I was like, shoot, like why shouldn't I open up

1519
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: my contract to the fans?

1520
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: Like for me, it gives me more money.

1521
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 2: Right for them, they get to, know what I'm saying,

1522
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: have fun investing in what they and be a part

1523
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: of it. Like think about it, we're looking at sports

1524
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 2: gambling going through the roof. You know what I'm saying,

1525
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: All people want to do is be attached to this.

1526
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: Why because AFFI, because we can do things other people

1527
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: can't do.

1528
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 4: I need you to dumb it down for me though,

1529
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 4: Like what now I'm serious because it's like it's cool.

1530
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I need like pans can invent,

1531
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: Like why is it in the fans' interest to invest

1532
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 4: in your contract?

1533
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 3: And what do they get out of it?

1534
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 4: Like you said, you get more money because they putting

1535
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 4: money into it before the fan out, Like what do

1536
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: they get from why is it a good deal for them?

1537
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 3: Okay?

1538
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: So it would depend on the ways in which that

1539
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: you did it in what incentage you want to offer, right,

1540
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: Like you could do it to where they get small

1541
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: percentages and things like that, So you could treat like

1542
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: a bond, right and in which case, like why would

1543
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: I not want to get the Spencer bond instead of

1544
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: a government bond if it's going to pay the same.

1545
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: But I can also get courtside tickets to a game,

1546
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like you can give perks

1547
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: and meet and greets and just things that are low

1548
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: lift for us, but they'll buy because it's us, you

1549
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And so you just finding new

1550
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: inventive ways to involve them in what is that you're

1551
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: doing and going forward with that. So you know, for me,

1552
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: it was about like kind of looking at it from

1553
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: the perspective of fans want us in all facets, how

1554
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: can we continue to yeah, provide that and decrease the friction.

1555
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: And one of the things they love is obviously our contracts.

1556
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: That's why they're so public. And they know if we

1557
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: hit X amount of three points, we get a bonus.

1558
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: Well what if I said, like, okay, if you know

1559
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: I hit those threes, like I'll give you ten percent

1560
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: of my bonus, like because you guys gave me X

1561
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: amount of dollars or whatever it is up front and

1562
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: all other stuff like it's you can play the game

1563
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: however you want to play whatever's right for you. And

1564
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 2: so it was about having people rethink this relationship between

1565
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: players and fans and having kind of players also open

1566
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: their minds like oh shit, like really, like these are

1567
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: the people like like they.

1568
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Don't got to be stuck with just organization and players.

1569
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: It can be everybody can be getting this money.

1570
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: So why wasn't it a loud man?

1571
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: Look me, me and the NBA.

1572
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 3: Uh, I know you don't see how you still say

1573
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: they wrong?

1574
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: I saw you, well, I mean look at it. They

1575
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: said they were gonna kick me out the league and

1576
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm still playing. So obviously it wasn't like that. But

1577
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: that's also water in the bridge because I said you

1578
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: were gonna get kicked out of the league.

1579
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 6: League actually came all that stuff they said. They said

1580
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 6: a lot of wild stuff.

1581
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, though, it's water on

1582
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: the bridge because like it also got them thinking more

1583
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: into blockchain. They also are partners in one of the

1584
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: companies that I am involved with, which is that for Labs.

1585
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 4: And that's how old look you in top shot. I've

1586
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 4: seen that thing is flow like like you look at them. Yeah,

1587
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 4: I still got a big.

1588
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: Coin going anyway.

1589
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 4: Shit, I'm trying to be a part of that CEO.

1590
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: That's like one of the biggest things. And then boom,

1591
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 4: so so you saw you on the ground floor that

1592
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 4: home boy. Yeah yeah, so rohum the CEO is my guy.

1593
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: And so I was frotching on what's up, knucklehead, like, uh,

1594
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 3: you know.

1595
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: I I was fortunate enough to get in with them

1596
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: because they had so that relapse that originally made an

1597
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: app called Crypto Kiddies on the Ethereum blockchain, and and

1598
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: they're famous for basically that kind of throttling the network,

1599
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: which just means they slowed it down to cross. They

1600
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: had too much like fan base, too much activity, so

1601
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: they ended up building their own blockchain called Flow and

1602
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: ended up trying to get these enterprise partnerships.

1603
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 6: And I was able to be on the ground floor

1604
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 6: of that.

1605
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: And obviously in terms of the NBA starting to rethink

1606
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: blockchain and how they viewed things, started to stay in

1607
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: the mind towards that. So all the all the hardships

1608
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: that happened through my contract bullets I took for things

1609
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: like that, and even though it didn't happen exact way

1610
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: and I wanted to.

1611
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: I ended up put them up on game. Yeah, you

1612
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: did some good ship for free. Next time charge there?

1613
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: Put them up. He came around the corner on some mothers.

1614
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 3: Listen.

1615
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: I looked at it like this, right, Like I was

1616
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: able to get Dapper labs around the corner, and so

1617
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: I got them in there.

1618
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: And then also.

1619
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: Remember like for me, a war with the NBA is

1620
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: never good because I still plan on playing, Like I

1621
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 2: just obviously signed for sixty. So if I go to

1622
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: war with them just to prove a point but I

1623
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: don't get my sixty, is it worth it?

1624
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: No?

1625
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: Probably not.

1626
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: So you know, we make friends and Adamson was a

1627
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: great commissioner. I understand why the league would be scared

1628
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: to let somebody do that, because if I do mess

1629
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: it up or whatever, there's liability and other things. And

1630
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: I feel like that's why it should have took a

1631
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: shot on me, because like I'm the player that wants

1632
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: to and so I'm not gonna like deliberately screw everybody.

1633
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: It's a history of that, Like it's a history of

1634
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: players that would be the specific players that takes the

1635
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: hits for the NBA to really realize like what's going

1636
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: on in the world and what's going on outside them

1637
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: and then they accept it. But it always be that

1638
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: player that when they first walked through the door, like yeah,

1639
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, he was the first guy that had to

1640
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: take the hits for the coin rolls, the tattoos, the

1641
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: baggy clothes and all that stuff. And now you see

1642
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: the guys can really express themselves. A lot of guy

1643
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: took a hit for God to express themselves. Now, so

1644
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: all you did was just take the hit from the beginning.

1645
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: And now the NBA is open to cryptocurrency. They opened

1646
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: the doing thing. I wanted to ask you another thing too,

1647
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: since you're the smart guy n f t S. Man

1648
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: Gary V hit me up and told me, man, you

1649
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: need to get up on n f t's And I

1650
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: was like.

1651
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the n f T S he would like

1652
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: find out?

1653
01:07:51,200 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: I was damn Gary, you know what I'm saying, But

1654
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: I heard n FT's is the new wave.

1655
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: Man.

1656
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: The hotel we stand in, Man, they got a look

1657
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: in Team Lit's set up downstairs, and you know, us

1658
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: knuckleheads want to get part of the NFT game and

1659
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Like, so tell us more about

1660
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 1: the NFT game.

1661
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 6: So NFT just means non fungible token.

1662
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: So basically what that means is they if you look

1663
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: at like a bitcoin, right, like if I gave you

1664
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: one bitcoin, gave you one bitcoin, it doesn't mean that

1665
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: you have the first and here's the second. You know

1666
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, they're just bitcoin, right, there's twenty one million.

1667
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: They're just kind of in circulation, well, non fungible token.

1668
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: They put they put a serial number essentially on each.

1669
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, tok, So it could be

1670
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: like you have the first bitcoin, you have the second bitcoin,

1671
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 2: you have the third, and so obviously that gives scarcely

1672
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 2: gets value right. So if you look at anything in life,

1673
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: if there's less of it, it's probably more valuable. Right

1674
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: when people drop shoes and they say, oh, it's a

1675
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: one of one or one of ten, they're more valuable, right,

1676
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: So looking at yeah, and so that's exactly what kind

1677
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: of the NFT play is, right, it's likely verified scarcity.

1678
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 6: It's pretty much the game.

1679
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: So when you look at Panini cards, when they come

1680
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: out in one of ten, one of one hundred, whatever

1681
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 2: it is. So you're just doing that in a digital

1682
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: version because it's on the blockchain, it's more transparent, more secure,

1683
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: and you can kind of transfer the value easier then

1684
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: with like a Panini card or whatever, because you're trusting

1685
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 2: Panini to verify the stuff. Where it's like the blockchain,

1686
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 2: you can't really lie to it.

1687
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: All right, So when we get our building in Silicon Valley,

1688
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: just let me know and I set up my office

1689
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: myself that you know, put my Now, I got your stuff.

1690
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna have a building in Silicon Valley

1691
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: in a minute, So just let me get an office,

1692
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: corner office.

1693
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 4: I prefer, but you know, I take anything, So so

1694
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 4: now I won't talk about money. We're talking about a

1695
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 4: lot of big cooin and all this. Like I remember

1696
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 4: you first came in, you got your little test were like,

1697
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 4: what the fuck are you doing getting the Tesla in Detroit?

1698
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, whatever tests, I'm in

1699
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 4: Florida also want test so so this I won't hear.

1700
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: But we know you the smart guy.

1701
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 4: We know you didn't got damn invested and did some

1702
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: big things on that stat I want to know what

1703
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 4: the other part of the family, Spencer did when you

1704
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 4: got some bread. I don't want hear by. I took

1705
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 4: care of Mama. I don't want to hear by. I

1706
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 4: won't hear about one. The one thing I won't hear

1707
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 4: about the frivolous purchase Spencer.

1708
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 3: Then we did to make him feel good, even though

1709
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 3: he might have had a sugar man.

1710
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 6: I'll tell you, I'll tell you.

1711
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 3: Uh, it's a bad question, like that what you did?

1712
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 3: We got a big dumb ass chain whips, we got cars,

1713
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: all this and that, like what what what? What does

1714
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: Spence do?

1715
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: No?

1716
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: No change, no haircut, no change, no haircut. The two

1717
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 2: things that I got my purchase, I got the black panther.

1718
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 4: AP's wait, wait, you mean the automatic Black Panther version.

1719
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I never heard of that, never knew but.

1720
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 2: The night So my second favorite superhero, the iron Man

1721
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 2: in my favorite coats purple.

1722
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 4: So we know that iron Man. He thinks he's Tony

1723
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 4: starts that that's part of his smart guy.

1724
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 3: So I got that.

1725
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 6: And then secondarily the cone Seg Jamera.

1726
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: The way, did you understand what.

1727
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 6: It's a car?

1728
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: Coneck Seg jam.

1729
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: I've never heard of that. Yeah, maybe I'm not.

1730
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you too many people, you know, the only persons something.

1731
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: That again, Conja Cony Segg is a Swedish car company,

1732
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: I believe Swedish, one of three hundred. It's the first

1733
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 2: Mega GT So it's a four seater hyper car. It

1734
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: has I believe two thousand combined horse powers. You know

1735
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 2: who I've seen the Blondie Blondie.

1736
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: Car.

1737
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 6: I said, what's hold on, bro?

1738
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 3: How much that costs? See?

1739
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 4: Look everybody like, yeah, what I'm saying? And we got

1740
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 4: it made back. We got maybe just saying something I

1741
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 4: don't even know how to say the right way.

1742
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 3: What all the rappers going to get them up? Thousand horsepower?

1743
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 3: Super what was you say? Hyper or supercourts?

1744
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: A lot of supercop it's the first four seat of

1745
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: Hypocritic called a Megga GT.

1746
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: So you got a picture, can see u.

1747
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 2: I mean we could pull it up with those boutique

1748
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: type cars, like first you by the slot, then you

1749
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: put down the fifty percent deposit and they make it

1750
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: for you.

1751
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 6: And so it'll be here in twenty twenty three, I believe.

1752
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: But I ain't even got that motherfucker yet. I've seen

1753
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: the blind girl that Jont, that Jon.

1754
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 4: I'm wonna see you. I'm gonna see f I don't

1755
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 4: even know what he's saying. Boy, I said, I thought

1756
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 4: I thought for sure. I was like I would at least. No,

1757
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 4: I ain't never even heard of this, Jont. It's different,

1758
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 4: y'all need to see this. You said you're getting in

1759
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three.

1760
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: Uh, something like that.

1761
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 6: I believe that's when the production cycle we'll drop it.

1762
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: Man, it's twenty twenty one. You playing for a car

1763
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 3: three years from now, two years from now.

1764
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Tony start.

1765
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 6: It's different. Like everybody can go get a like a

1766
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 6: raise or a coloring it or Ben Tager or whatever.

1767
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: Like you got a way three four years a get

1768
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: accountability whole life.

1769
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 4: I've only did that one time, and I'll never do

1770
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 4: it again. I have no patience. I'm terrible with that.

1771
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,560
Speaker 4: When the fucking what was it? The it was the

1772
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 4: Bentley Continental fly Spur. When that car first dropped, I.

1773
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 3: Did what you did.

1774
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 4: I want to be tasty, go to the dealership ship

1775
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 4: with them, get champagne, talk my ship and design and.

1776
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 3: Do this and do that.

1777
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 4: Then you gotta wait. Well, I didn't even want the

1778
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 4: damn car when I got it, no more. I was like, what, Like,

1779
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 4: I got that bitch a year later, I want this

1780
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 4: kind of mom everybody seen people with like I got it.

1781
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 6: I was like, that's that's the difference, though, Bentley.

1782
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: It is different, this mother ship. This ain't really I

1783
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 3: don't even know how to say this.

1784
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 6: Now there will only ever be three hundred. They won't

1785
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 6: make more.

1786
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 4: So, man, it's only yeah, it's gonna be a cash

1787
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 4: car right here, gonna pass that long you keep that

1788
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 4: bitch and ment condition less than a thousand miles. They're

1789
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 4: gonna be like, yeah, keep less than a thousand miles.

1790
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 4: Like my Audi was less than that sh had like

1791
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 4: seven hundred miles. I ain't never that bitch.

1792
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then like the path is one of two fifty,

1793
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: I believe. So, like the things that I usually get

1794
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: are like very bespoken, Like you can't car like an

1795
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: NFT for example, Like you just said, if I got

1796
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: to wait a year or two years or whatever to

1797
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: get something, but then everybody's gonna have it, and it's

1798
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: and something that like is not unique. Like why like

1799
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 2: for example, I know, like people have started to drive

1800
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: a lot of Urus, Lamborghinis and McLarens and things like that.

1801
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: They're like easy cars to get into because you can

1802
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 2: lease them in this out of the third like if

1803
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: you look at like the really like Solucid Ferraris and things.

1804
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 6: Why do people not drives because you have to actually

1805
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 6: buy them, you know.

1806
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

1807
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 3: You can't.

1808
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: You can't just lease them anywhere, you know what I mean?

1809
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 2: So like things like this, you're not gonna lease no

1810
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: Konaxect like it's one of three hundred, Like when you

1811
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: see the tag on that, like that's actually mine, Like

1812
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: there's only two hundred and ninety nine more, and I

1813
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: think the actual owner of Koonaksect has one.

1814
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 6: So there's only two in ninety eight in the world

1815
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 6: that're gonna drive around.

1816
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: So You're part of the biggest trade NBA history. You're

1817
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 3: aware of that.

1818
01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like how that feel. But not only we had

1819
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 4: to for the culminator. You get a three year deal

1820
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 4: sixty two. That's a lot of money, Like you know,

1821
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 4: I know it was a you know, discrepancy. You could

1822
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 4: have made a you know, a bit more, but I

1823
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 4: mean sixty two coming from like you say, G League

1824
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 4: second round, Like there's a lot more money than second round.

1825
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: Picks ever get to ever ever ever elver.

1826
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: See.

1827
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that just let you know like I was on

1828
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 3: the right path, I was doing what was right.

1829
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when you saign something like that, and that's

1830
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: when you when you had the conversation with parents and

1831
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: things like that, you start looking back. You look at

1832
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: the Juriors so appreciative for all the moments and so

1833
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: like like I said, with the Detroit and setting the

1834
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: foundation to learn how to be a pro and understanding

1835
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 2: that injuries kind of getting my opportunity, but also understand

1836
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: like I walked through the door as well, because it

1837
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 2: takes two parts.

1838
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1839
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: I would never wish injury on anybody I've had too,

1840
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: but you know that that person has to walk through

1841
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: that door and take advantage of it. And you know,

1842
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: being a part of the biggest trade in history and

1843
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: things being complicated.

1844
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 6: It's it's very on brand. But you know it's shoot,

1845
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 6: it's to honor and blessing.

1846
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I don't know many second round

1847
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 2: picks whose career earnings by the time they're done will

1848
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: probab like cross triple triple digits, you.

1849
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

1850
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 6: I'm probably maybe, yeah, I'm probably like fifteen years.

1851
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 2: But like yeah, like if if I play another five years,

1852
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: there's no way I shouldn't make it another fifteen, you

1853
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1854
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 1: Like it's a blessing.

1855
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: Like, like I said, there's so many things that had

1856
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: to happen for it to happen, and then there's a

1857
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: million other ways and scenarios that could have gone, Like

1858
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: I could have chose China for the bag, like my

1859
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: teammates and friends could have not gotten hurt, and I

1860
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 2: could have never played, you know what I mean. And

1861
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 2: it's just it's just like there's no other way I

1862
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 2: guess to feel other than blessed. I mean, obviously you

1863
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: have to put in the actual hard work, so some

1864
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 2: of that is like you got your swag to you

1865
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: you understand, like you did this, but a lot of

1866
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 2: times too, like these are blessings.

1867
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 6: Too now, Like it wasn't.

1868
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: This wasn't just all like Spencer just like you know,

1869
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 2: just walked in just swagging on everything, like like you

1870
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 2: had to have that confidence, but you also had to

1871
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 2: have those doors open and you know, so it's equal parts,

1872
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: Like I feel really good, I feel really confident. I

1873
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: think with it to have a chance to make the

1874
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 2: playoffs and I think I have a chance I'm saying

1875
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: to make an All Star Game before my career is done.

1876
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 6: But I also understand, like you know, a lot of

1877
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 6: things had to happen just to get here.

1878
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: So thanks working. When we got to LA it was

1879
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: two thousand, you was like seven or eight. Yeah, do

1880
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: you remember any clip of stories at times when we was.

1881
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 2: Down there and y'all were y'all were famous for the

1882
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: two taps ahead man?

1883
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 6: Like that was that was day time and dunking on

1884
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 6: people in fun and all that.

1885
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I was dunking on people, not him. You're

1886
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: gonna leave the dunking out, you know, we don't show

1887
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: like that.

1888
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 4: It's a dunker in this sho you know the dunk

1889
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 4: conversation where you go wrong with this conversation. Young fella

1890
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 4: was there two thousand and what fourteen thirteen fifteen. I'm

1891
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 4: dunking out vertical, remember under the basket still to this day,

1892
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 4: not even playing, no workout but warm up vertical, two

1893
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 4: hands on the numbers. Don't play with me. Well, I'm

1894
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 4: done with the game. Not he could duck still, like,

1895
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 4: but he wasn't a dunker. Anybody could dunk in the

1896
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: gym with nobody down there. I'm talking about dunker in game.

1897
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 4: You know, in games count more than in the gym

1898
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 4: with no sure. Yeah, so it's Dunkle's talking. But yeah,

1899
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 4: you remember with us dunking and stuff, me dunking and stuff.

1900
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: Yeah it's Google.

1901
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: It's Google definitely like me.

1902
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 2: And you remember how like how fun it was, and

1903
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: then now being in the league, you realize like how

1904
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: impactful that is too. You know, Like I was, like

1905
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: I said, I grew up with Lakers fans, so like

1906
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like capy on nothing. So you're like, okay,

1907
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 2: Laker's like winn championship bawing, like you think, like it's

1908
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 2: a championship winner and everybody else is a bum right,

1909
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: Like when you get in the lead, you're like, holy shit,

1910
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: and't you look back at all these things, You're like,

1911
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: damn like.

1912
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: No other thing.

1913
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, the way they were rocking like that was fucking special.

1914
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: Like like to have that that liveness and that fun

1915
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: and that that atmosphere and that camaraderie and things like that,

1916
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: Like like I said, I experienced with the twenty eighteen

1917
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: nineteen NETS team and we only went to the first

1918
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: round and like lost four one, you know what I'm saying,

1919
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: But like even being in there and making it there

1920
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: was like.

1921
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 6: A steppingstones and milestone like so all those things.

1922
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 2: You start to just have this like immense respect for

1923
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,959
Speaker 2: everybody's even been able to step foot into the brotherhood

1924
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: and for you guys to like change the game, be

1925
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: transformative and to kind of blend pop culture makes it fun.

1926
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 6: Like that's that's huge.

1927
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: You know, everybody can't win the championship, but they act

1928
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: like you never achieved success, like you never had fun

1929
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: or it wasn't a success. Yeah, us as players and competitors, Yeah,

1930
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 1: we ain't win the championship. We feel like we needs

1931
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: to see, but we still achieve something. And one of

1932
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: the things y'all definitely did with that next team, y'all

1933
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: achieved something.

1934
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: Y'all.

1935
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: The whole league didn't expect y'all to do what y'all did,

1936
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: and y'all did it, and all them guys from that

1937
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: team then succeed. We see Jared Allen with a hundred

1938
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: million dollars in the biker right now. You know what

1939
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You got your money, little word over there.

1940
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. DeAngelo ice cold in the vans.

1941
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Man, I love to watch

1942
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: y'all play back then, and that was definitely dope, and

1943
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: we definitely appreciate you coming out rocking with us.

1944
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 4: Man all right, man, that's been a rap man. We

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