1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Wow, what a day, what a life. Thank you guys 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: for listening, for all the people who are listening consistently, 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Thank you. I love you. I really appreciate you, because honestly, 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: what are we even up to? But I'm so glad 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: you tune in and it means the world to me. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you what's on the top of my 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: mind right now. Poop, but specifically of the dog variety. Guys, 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: we can't leave it on the sidewalk. We can't leave 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: dog poop on the sidewalk. I guess that's all I 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: want to say about the matter. How crazy is it 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: that people are just leaving their dog poop? And I 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: understand running out of bags and such, but we got 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: to get resourceful. I've once used the like disposable cozy 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: on a coffee cup to scoop up dog poop up 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: and this was like last week, really creative about how 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get dog poop up when I don't have bags. 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: But we can't just be leaving dog poop on the 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: sidewalk because someone's gonna step in it and that's going 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: to ruin their day. And then gum spitting out gum 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: on the sidewalk. Someone's gonna step in it, guys, and 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna ruin their day. Neither of these things, thankfully, 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: have happened to me in recent memory. But let's all 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: do our part. These are the things that matter to 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: me today. I'm talking to someone incredibly exciting. I cannot wait. 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be super fun. I know him, 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: you know him, you love him. I'm excited for this one. 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: I have to introduce you first, because this is huge 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: for me personally. 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: Let's see how you feel when it's over. 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we'll gauge at the end, all right, 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: but I right now feel it's huge. I feel it 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: will only be huger. Is that a word? 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: I think it is. 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I made it up because people are making words up now. 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: Stuff. 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Six seven. 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Had to say, Well, the dictionary folks like western, like 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: the word of the year stopping. Yes, yeah, you're looking 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: to you. You don't look to us. 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: They're like, no, we're taking cues from you to the public. 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we should start making up words here, and maybe 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: then they'll pick up a cue and there'll be a 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: word in the dictionary that you made up, and that 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: would be kind of cool. That would be that that 45 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: would be that it's just something to consider, but I 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: should introduce you for because that's how podcasts work. I heard, Okay, 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: the word on the street is I got to introduce 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: this legend. My next guest, who is here before me 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: now is Emu winning weather man, broadcaster and journalist. You 50 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: know him from the Today Show. You also love him 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: from the Today Show, and if you're as lucky as 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: I am, you love him from run Ins as well. 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: It's Al Broker. Hello, Hillah, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get more than twice. Then it sounds 55 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: like you're trying to convince not just me but yourself myself. 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, how are you? 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm good? Boom Okay, he believed did That's good acting 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: advice as well. 59 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: A lot of the best acting advice I ever got 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: it was from Jason Alexander. I was doing a behind 61 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: the scenes of Seinfeld years and years and years ago, 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: and I said so and they were gonna put me 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: in the show to do it. I said, I need 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: some advice. What do you what do you think? He 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: goes from years of doing soap operas, Here's what I've 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: learned no matter what somebody says to you, your reaction 67 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: should be who farted? 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Works in internally? 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: Internal in you, so that just say say something to. 70 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: Me, all right, my goodness, the traffic outside was a 71 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: disaster today. Non verbal as well. I love that. I'm 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: gonna you know what, I could stand to do that, 73 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: like if I ever get worked up and I don't 74 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: want to respond right away. So this is an acting advice. 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: You could also take it into life because it means 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: you're just kind of mute, and yes it is. You 77 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: just go. If you if we were in conflict and 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: you're coming at me and I just go, that would 79 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: make someone really upset. If I was on the receiving 80 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: end of that, though, I would be very upset. Did 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: you get a reaction? And that's effective. I'm so happy 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: you're here. 83 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here. 84 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: I have to ask you off the bat, because this 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: is what we do the podcast out who or what 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: do you want to say? Thanks to? 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: Uh? Who? 88 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: Do you know what? 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: I would say? Thanks to? Thanks to my wife, Deborah 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: Roberts and and and my family because you know, about 91 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: three and a half years ago I had a major 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: medical issue and they both Deborah, my daughter Leela, my 93 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 2: brother Chris. You know, they were fierce advocates, you know, 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: for me, and and and one of the greatest gifts 95 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: they gave me was that at no time did I 96 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: know how actually sick I was in that Like my 97 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: brother who's in the healthcare field, is saying, you know, 98 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: you you to start making plans because this might go 99 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: very well, may go the other way. Uh. And and 100 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: but I really do think they saved my life that 101 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: and knock on wood or press particle. 102 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Board, Uh, don't out us. 103 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: I don't know it's it's it's very wood like. But anyway, Uh, 104 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, they really gave me the wherewithal to survive. 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: And listen, I'm very fortunate I have good health care 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: and so. But you know, but I would say thank 107 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: you to my wife and my family. 108 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: That is incredible and shout out to them. 109 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: There are days there I think they regret. 110 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: That we should have let them go. 111 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: Would it have been that bad? No, because I always say, 112 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, if that had happened, if the worst had happened, 113 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: you'd be this hot widow. You know, uh, you know, 114 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 2: you already have kids. So there's some older rich guys 115 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: looking for you know, some arm candy ready to go. 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: Don't either way it was a win win for her. 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: Don't say this, don't say we're gonna just say thanks 118 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: to ok, we'll go with thanks that she chose you 119 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: as she chose me, and she chooses you every day. 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: Is that marriage? That is? 121 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: You know what marriage is? Tell me, actually marriage is 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: and I don't mean this as a negative. Marriage is work, 123 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: you know, but any relationship is work, you know someday 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean your boyfriend, girlfriend, your kids. It's work, you know, 125 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: But if you care about these people, then you put 126 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: in the work. 127 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: Okay. I hear people say all the time that it's work, 128 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: And people say it all the time, yes, what does 129 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: the work look like? Honestly? Because somebody might be in 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: a wrong relationship and they're like, it's work, it's and 131 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: then somebody else will say to them, well, it's not 132 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be that kind of work or it's not 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be that hard, and people another person will say, well, 134 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: relationships are hard, and so it's all quite confusing. And 135 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: I know it's case by case, but how would you 136 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: describe the work? 137 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's look, I think it's it's like everything. 138 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: You know, you're kind of grate on a curve, you know, 139 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: it's you know, yeah, I mean, but you're hoping at 140 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: the end of the day or the end of whatever, 141 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: you know that that the good times and what makes 142 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: you happy and this person makes you happy far outweigh 143 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: the times where you want to. 144 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: Just sometimes you want to kill them. That's true. It's true. 145 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: And and and anybody anybody who says differently that they 146 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: there have not been moments where they wanted to kill 147 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: their significant other is lying. 148 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm just sorry, Okay, I appreciate that. I always when 149 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: I hear people saying my partner and I don't fight 150 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: at all, I'm like, I think that's bad. 151 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: That's right, you're going to end up dead. 152 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: They're not fighting because one day it's all going to 153 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: come out. 154 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: And because it's and I don't know, in your relationship, 155 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: but it's never about the thing. It's about what came 156 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: before the thing. 157 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Isn't it's crazy. We're all actually just children, yes, walking 158 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: around in adult bodies, and the sooner you realize. 159 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: Which sounds like a horror movie, it does. 160 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Maybe all right, thank you for the idea. Maybe we 161 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: co write it. 162 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll co wrete, they will ep it exactly. I'll 163 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: have your people call. 164 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: My Okay, no problem, we'll do that offline. Here. You 165 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: did you always know you wanted to be married? 166 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. I you know, I never gave it 167 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: any thought. I just you know, listen, were you a playboy? Well? No, okay, no, 168 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: here's no, here's the deal. I mean I was a guy. Okay, 169 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: tell the truth. I am going to tell you the truth. 170 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: I want to give you a little backstory. 171 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Okay. 172 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: Here. So it's it's nineteen seventy, no, nineteen sixty eight, 173 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: sixty seven, sixty eight, and I'm a black kid living 174 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: in Queens. I'm overweight, and there's a special on NBC, 175 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: an animated special that comes out by a certain stand 176 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: up comic called Fat Albert heard of it. Yeah, so 177 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: that airs my life is over. Oh and I'm hoping 178 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: that maybe by some flu nobody at my school saw 179 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: this this special. 180 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: But back then there were like five stations. I yet 181 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: like and that's not to aid you, Okay. 182 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: I walked into the into the school yard at Saint 183 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: Catharine of Sienna and Saint Auban's Queeze, and I heard 184 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: this hey, hey, hey, and so give that pretty much 185 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: followed me into high school. So there wasn't a lot 186 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: of let's put it this way, the ladies weren't coming 187 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: after this. 188 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Hey, okay, okay, little did they know what they were 189 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: missing out? 190 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: And that's what I and okay, here's some here's some 191 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: advice for the ladies out there. The single wood. 192 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Tell tell all, right, now. 193 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: You can go for the really good looking guy. M 194 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, odds are after 195 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: thirty years of marriage or so, they're going to be 196 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: falling apart. 197 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: Those looks fade. 198 00:09:59,320 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: It's fades. 199 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: It looks fair. 200 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: Deborah, on the other hand, reversed, engineered it. 201 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: She had a vision. 202 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: She had a vision. I was three hundred and forty 203 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: pounds when we got married, and now I look like this. 204 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so it ends up, it sure does. You can't. 205 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: You're so you advise them to have visions. 206 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: See the diamond. 207 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Oh yes, go for the one, because let's face. 208 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: It, you ladies like to you look at us as 209 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: an apartment to be decorated or renovated. 210 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually yes, to be honest, you have to go. 211 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: Do you like the bones? Do you like the bones? 212 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Of the house. My real estate agent taught me that 213 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: when I was buying my house, because I kept being like, 214 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't like this, I don't like that, and he's like, 215 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: you have to like the bones and the location, and 216 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: so it's think about the bones. I like it. But 217 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: the thing is everyone's got bones. 218 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but some bones are better than others. 219 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: That's facts. That's true. I guess every time bones, bones 220 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: be bones. 221 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: Some bones are don't even know what that means. 222 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: Bones are bad. But I like people. We'll figure it 223 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: out in due time. Maybe by the end of this 224 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I'll mull out of my head and I'll sort that out. 225 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: So Deborah had vision, how old are you guys when 226 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: you guys get together? 227 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: Uh, I was, let's see, well, we've been married thirty years, 228 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: so I was. 229 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: I was forty one. Okay, and I won't say she was, 230 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: but okay, that's not our business. She's not here. 231 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: Somebody will tell her. I said that, okay, and I 232 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: will kill you. 233 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: You will kill her, she will kill Okay, got it. 234 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: It would be well within her right. 235 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: Honest exactly that, you know, your honor. My client's husband. 236 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Went on Thanks Dad went on. 237 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: What a podcast and gave her eight Well, case closed. 238 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: Dismissed, and you know it would be nice views and 239 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: listens for me. Yeah, I don't know, Deborah, consider no, 240 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: but we love youse. I don't want that to happen. 241 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: So you were forty, so you hadn't been really dating 242 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: much before then. How did you know? 243 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: Well, this was I will to be honest, this was 244 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: my third marriage. Okay, so but this one is stuck. 245 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: So this one stuck. What feels different if I may 246 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: ask about this marriage beyond it sticking versus the other 247 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: two marriages. 248 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: You know, listen, every everybody has their their issues. But 249 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: I think this, you know, it was I think because 250 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: we did put in the work. You know that that 251 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: you know in the you know, the old saying go 252 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: and get stuff, the tough get going. Well, you know, 253 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: I mean listen, there were moments where we could have said, ah, 254 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: to heck with this, you know, and even you know, 255 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: kids or no, but you say, you know what, at 256 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you know, this is my 257 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: ride or die. So you know, let's just you know, 258 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: and and let's face it, do you really want to 259 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: go back out there? 260 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: Well that's been the argument for some of my friends 261 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: staying in relationships. I mean, they're young, are not married, 262 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: but they'll be like, I just don't want to get 263 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: back out there and start over with someone. 264 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: And you know, you love this person, you care about them, 265 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: you have a life with them. So you know, I mean, 266 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: which which would you rather do? Invest in? Somebody that 267 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: you know loves you and you love them. Now listen, 268 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: if there's an issue, then that's that's that, and you've 269 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: got to make a decision. But otherwise, you know, I 270 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: would much rather invest in what I've already got than 271 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: try to find a bigger, better deal, you know. 272 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that sounds mature, by the way, that. 273 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: Sounds I'm old. 274 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, don't say that. 275 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, so my baby brother, yeah Chris is 276 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: almost seventeen years younger than me. And I would look 277 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: at my you know, they're they're six kids, and I'm 278 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: my next oldest is my sister, and we would look 279 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: at my parents and say, they're letting this kid get 280 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: away with murder. He's doing it whatever he wants. And 281 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: finally I said to my mother, so, what's what's the deal. 282 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: She retired. 283 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: That's what happens. I'm the youngest, by the way, yeah, 284 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: we had to put ourselves through college. 285 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: He got a free ride in a car. 286 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: You want to be the you want to be the 287 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: youngest kid. You want to be the youngest kid. 288 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: You got to be the responsible one, exactly. 289 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: And you're kind of like a surrogate parent, even if 290 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: you have both of your parents. I feel like I 291 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: don't envy the oldest. 292 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: That's your job. 293 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: Know, then you become you were, you kind of a 294 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: parent to the other you know. 295 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: In fact, my mom when I was in college, my 296 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: mom was sick for a little bit, and and so 297 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: I volunteered. I took my brother Chris, who was at 298 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: the time was like two and a half almost three. 299 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: I took him to college with me for a month. 300 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: I actually potty trained him. 301 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Oh, oh my gosh, that's the responsibility. 302 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: On the upside, he was a chick magnet. 303 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: Really, it's like a dog, a small exactly, guy with 304 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: a small dog. 305 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: He was like a bijeon with a fro. It was great. 306 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: Well, so also that's part of why we thanked Chris earlier. 307 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, paper trained it. 308 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing thing. Well, so you did you like 309 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: being the oldest though? It's the responsibility aside. 310 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: I think because you know you could get while you 311 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: know your your your baby siblings were somewhat spoiled. You know, 312 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: you kind of had control so that you could kind 313 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: of they were sort of your servants do. 314 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: That to go get the remote, lots of go get 315 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: the remote. 316 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh look, I'm so old. It was changed the channel remote, 317 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: the remotes. 318 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's god bless, I can't hold. 319 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: The antenna the antenna shop shop stop right. 320 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: There, from your throne, from your throne, directing. 321 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: That from my from in our living room with my 322 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: mother's plastic covered couch of course held off in the summer, 323 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: of course, it's. 324 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: Like that, but going on a leather seat in a 325 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: car in the summer, that has him Oh my gosh. 326 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: It was funny. After my my dad had passed earlier 327 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: and then my mom had passed, were getting rid of 328 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: the furniture, and this mid century Danish mustard yellow couch 329 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: was as fresh as the day it was purchased because 330 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: it had never it had never been exposed to air, 331 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: to the elements it was in that plastic cheating. 332 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, let's bring plastic back onto the couches of 333 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: the furniture persons. 334 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: Forget about bringing sexy back, Bring plastic. 335 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Back, bring plastic bat on it? 336 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, no funny. So if you're trying to 337 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: fool around on the couch, you know your parents can 338 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: hear you. 339 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: If I'm upstairs, I'm doing that as a parent to 340 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: make sure. 341 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: So let's ask it. So, are you gonna have kids? 342 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, al Oh my gosh, I don't know 343 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: you for a second, hearts. 344 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Let's let's back it up. Do you want kids? 345 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Do I want kids? I do want kids. But you 346 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: know what I decided, I had an epiphany yesterday. It 347 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: might be garbage, I want kids. I'm excited by the notion. 348 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: I believe now I'm so responsible that I understand what 349 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: the commitment is, and the commitment seems reckless. Go with 350 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: me to sign up for that is that it's a 351 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: positive reckless. Some type people will describe love as reckless. 352 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: I feel like Alicia Keys has a song called reckless love. 353 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be negative. I know it has 354 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: a negative connotation. 355 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: Reckless can be just giving in, giving in, giving in. 356 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what having a kid would be. 357 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: Now, okay, here's what do you have a dog? 358 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: I do have a dog, okay, and. 359 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: That dog is basically a perpetual three year old. Yes, yes, 360 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: you love that dog. 361 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: I do love the dog, okay, kid. I think, well, 362 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: it was practice for me, Yes, really it was. I 363 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: got him as a puppy, I trained him and on 364 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: my own. I was a single dog mom. My mom 365 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: was an actual single human mom, but I was a 366 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: single dog mom. And I was like, this is a 367 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: lot of work for one little puppy. And you're allowed 368 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: to leave the puppy for ten minutes or something to 369 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: go get milk outside. But I'm like, it's shocking to 370 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: me how much work it is. To people don't talk 371 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: about puppies and how much work they are, but I 372 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: do think it's practice. 373 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: However, the good news is eventually, if you have a child, 374 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: they will, in theory, become self sufficient. And I have three, yes, 375 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: and they're they're varying levels of self sufficiency. I love, 376 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: I adore them. I love them. Yes, But there are 377 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: times my dad had a saying, I can't miss you 378 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: if you don't leave, you know, and and you know, 379 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: get out of my get out. It's good to see you, 380 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: and you can you can do whatever you want, just 381 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: don't do it here. We've had our time. Now my 382 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: oldest I'm thrilled to see because she's got a baby now. 383 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: So oh, grandparents, grandparents? Is that just the best? 384 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: It's great. I have no need for my children. 385 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Now with that, okay, unnecessary? 386 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: Do you have to prove to me that I should 387 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: love you well? 388 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Which of the kids is the most self sufficient of 389 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: the three? 390 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: By the way, I am not gonna say that. 391 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: I get you. 392 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: Almost was comfortable. I was about to say that. 393 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: It means I haven't done my job. No you have. 394 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: It's just I've been doing this longer. 395 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's true. Okay, okay, okay, I'm going to try 396 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: to get you. I'm gonna try to get This is 397 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: a gotcha podcast? What are your kids listening? Go? Dad said, 398 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: I'm his favorite. I know I can't get you to 399 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: say which one is your favorite? But you didn't say 400 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: you prefer self sufficiency. 401 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: I said, level, here's here, here's here is the truth. 402 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: It It goes up and down. They are in their 403 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: own way, each self sufficient and then but that at 404 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: the end of like as my dad said, and it's 405 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: funny because I do my dad wasn't perfect, you know, 406 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: but he was a great I think he was a 407 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: great dad. He's very nurturing. He was one of those 408 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: guys that before the whole he would have been if 409 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: he was growing up now, he would have been considered 410 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: like a metrosexual. He was very in touch with his his. 411 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: He had a high Oh great. 412 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. And he once say to me, I don't care 413 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: how old you get, You're always my kid. Yeah. Yeah, 414 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: And and but he had this kind of gruffle and 415 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: I call my mom. I said, where's dad. You know, 416 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: he's on his way out to Cleveland to see your sister. 417 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: She needs some help or something. And that was that. 418 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: So I think, you know, you're there. You just the 419 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: job is just to be there, I think, until they 420 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: need you, you know. Yeah. I don't offer advice until 421 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: ask Okay, you know. 422 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: Because even when you have an opinion as a dad and. 423 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: You're seeing, unless there is some sort of harm that 424 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: could happen, either physically or emotionally, you know, financially whatever 425 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 2: that otherwise, I think, listen, there's a whole group of 426 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: kids now what okay, the group now that's in their twenties, 427 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: what are they called gen z gen Z gen Z 428 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: Those in their twenty was the early thirties. You know, 429 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: they were raised with it. They were getting the trophies 430 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: for everything, and then you know we were helicopter parents, 431 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: you know our parents. Okay, where did you grow up? 432 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: Baltimore? 433 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Balmer? Okay. So here in New York City. You look, 434 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: go to a playground. Now everything is padded and safe, 435 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: and you know it's just when I was going. When 436 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: I went to the park, they were like monkey bars. 437 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: They were basically galvanized pipes stuck into cement. 438 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: All right, yeah yeah, and. 439 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: You climbed to them. If you slipped, you were like 440 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: a pachinko ball bing bang binging and you hit cement grassfhul. 441 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: You went on the slides, it was stainless steel baking 442 00:21:52,680 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: in the sun. You know, the seesaw what sick he 443 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: came up with that? So that your friend you're up 444 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: at the top, they got off bad. Now you look 445 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: at this playground, so there is it's a safe space. 446 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: Learn the school of hard knocks. 447 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: Yes, so you you're like, you let's make mistakes. Yeah, 448 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: I do think that's important, but some people, I do 449 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: think you learn more when you make the mistake yourself. 450 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: I think more is to it resonates the lessons. 451 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: My mom was was one of those that I'll never forget. 452 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: Deborah came to me once and she said, you need 453 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: to talk to your mother because well she's not letting 454 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: the kids win at checkers. Oh no, you have that 455 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: conversation because when we're kids, a game night on Friday, 456 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 2: scrabble stuff like that. It was like we had there 457 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: was a four four letter minimum and we had a 458 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: three minute egg timer. 459 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, so there was just Oh, your parents weren'tletting 460 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: you guys win. 461 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no. 462 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: It's like we're playing you're playing against adults. 463 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: Yes, and you want to play? 464 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Buttercup, I respect it. Were you close to 465 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: your dad? 466 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I was, you know he was. He was 467 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: a New York City bus driver for most of my 468 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 2: It was funny. I think everybody each child has a 469 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: different parent. 470 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think depending on. 471 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: Where you fall. You know, my dad, my Al Roker Senior, 472 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: was a bus driver. We were kind of like we 473 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: were literally the Honeymooners, except with kids, because we lived 474 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: in Brooklyn from and then we moved to Queen's We 475 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: moving on up. 476 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: Which one do you rep Brooklyn or Queens. 477 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: I think I spent most of my time in Queen Queens, 478 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: but I love Brooklyn so but you know, I still 479 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: own the house we grew up. But you know, he 480 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: was he was a bus driver. He was a blue cup. 481 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: By the time my baby brother came up, he had 482 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: moved into management at the MTA. But I always maintained 483 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: I had the more fun dead because I would get 484 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: to go when I was off from school. I would 485 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: ride the bus with him for eight hours. We'd go 486 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: to the Goodies luncheonette. He would get an egg, cream 487 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: and sandwiches and buy comics, and I see the same 488 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: people who had gone home, had gone to work coming home. 489 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: It was it was the best. Whereas my brother only 490 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: knew this, this guy who worked in an office. Best 491 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: best he got was to to be on a to 492 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: work the Xerox machine. I used to sit there with 493 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: this when bus drivers made change you know, the money 494 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: machines were going. I still have my dad's change maker. 495 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: You do incredible. I mean, to get to go around 496 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: the city with him, there was some of your most 497 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: cherished memories. Yeah that sounds so special. 498 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know he was up. He was 499 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: based in Brooklyn, you know. So he was His route 500 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: was on Flatbush Avenue, you know, and it was, yeah, 501 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: it was, it was, you know, it was I thought, 502 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: and Deva thinks I kind of gilded lily a bit, 503 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: and I probably do, but you know, it was it 504 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: was a good time, you know, and uh, you know, 505 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: And and so I learned a lot from him. He was. 506 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: His thing was I I had a bad report card 507 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: in high school and I thought he was going to 508 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: blow up when he gets home. I mean, this is 509 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: going to be ugly. And again he gets and you know, 510 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: my mother gives him the report card and he looks 511 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: at it, and he looks at me and he says, 512 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: if this is the best you can do, then I 513 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: guess there's not much I can say. Oh it isn't. Yeah, 514 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm really disappointed. 515 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: And walk upstairs and how did that make you feel? 516 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: I felt like crap and got the grades up. And 517 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: you know, because let's face, I think half the time, 518 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: three quarters of things we do to please our parents 519 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: and press our parents to make them think they we've 520 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 2: done a good job. So but but he he was 521 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: the two things I remember that he would always say. 522 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: He always ended every conversation with I love you. And 523 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 2: he was a guy who would admit a mistake and 524 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 2: say sorry, you know, and I try. I don't always 525 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: do it, but I try to remember. 526 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, that is high eq, especially for a different time, 527 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: because I feel like that's something people are just sort 528 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: of figuring out now. 529 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: He was He was like this big hugger, you know. Yeah, 530 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: and I didn't and I just thought that was normal 531 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: until like I'd go to family gatherings and I see 532 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: my uncle champ or something. Oh hi uncle, Oh hey, hey. 533 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: Okay, did your dad get a lot of warmth? Then 534 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like such a warm individual. 535 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: Did you get a lot of Yeah, well, you know, yeah, listen, 536 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: it was the depression all that stuff, and but you know, 537 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: I think he grew up and he was My grandmother 538 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: was a single mom with the three kids. Uh my grandfather, 539 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, had was mentally ill and so she was 540 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: really left to raise and had immigrated from the Bahamas 541 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: and uh, but you know, it was a it was 542 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: this house that we used to love to go to, 543 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 2: you know, and that was the era when families lived together. Yeah, 544 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: my my my aunt, my dad's sister lived with her 545 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: family with my grandmother. My mother's uh sisters lived with 546 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: her parents, you know, so, so it was great because 547 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: then you got you go over. There was always a 548 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: great meal. You'd always see your cousins. And let's face it, 549 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: cousins are like the better version of siblings. 550 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really, I really. 551 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: Because you don't get you got no emotional bag. 552 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not like we're not we're not tussling 553 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: over things day today. It's like I see you the 554 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: holidays or I see you on the weekends. It's yeah, cousins. 555 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Cousins are fun. If you don't have cousins, man, you 556 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: gotta get a. 557 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: Cousin adopted, cousin adopted. Maybe we should start that. 558 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: We'll start that so. 559 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: You know those commercials to see from the dogs or whatever. Yes, 560 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: there are children, Yeah, don't cousins. We want you to 561 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: donate for less than thirty cents a day, you can 562 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: donate a cousin to a cousinless child. 563 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: I think we should get that started. That's gonna go online, 564 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: I think, or someone's going to steal the idea. If 565 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: you don't activate quickly. You're a junior. Yes, how did 566 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: it feel to be a junior? Did that feel like pressure? 567 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: Or pride. 568 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: I get pride. I was. My full name is Albert 569 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: Lincoln Roker Junior. The reason I've got Lincoln in my 570 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: name is that my dad was born on Lincoln's birthday, 571 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: so my mother, my grandmother named him. But you know, 572 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: I always thought it was kind of kind of fun. 573 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: You know, it's like kind of almost like a cheer 574 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: Albert Lincoln. 575 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: It's a good name. I'm like, that's the name. 576 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: Then I tried when I was in high school, I 577 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 2: tried to be cool. I said, I'm going to call 578 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: myself Link. 579 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: You know, how did that? It didn't catch on? How 580 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: many people did you get to call you link? 581 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: Nobody? 582 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Nobody? Okay, it was just an idea. 583 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: Just kept trying link and then well what was he 584 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: talking about? And I went to a military school here 585 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: in Manhattan. Okay, so you had a name tag. It 586 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: was your last name. So for the longest time, people 587 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: just call me a roker. 588 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: Okay, do you prefer do you have a preferred nickname? 589 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: Just al Yeah? You know, because Albert, you know, only 590 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: only really my siblings and close childhood friends know my 591 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: full name. And now because yes, because my mother would back. 592 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: That was back in the day where your mother would 593 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: go out on the front stoop and. 594 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: Call, oh, yes, ow bad, And if. 595 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: You didn't quite hear, there was like this chain, you know, 596 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: like somebody could heard your mother. I think your mom's 597 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: calling you. 598 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Community exactly what it takes a villain. 599 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: But also the problem was back then, if one of 600 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: your neighbors saw you messing up, they had carte blanche to. 601 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: Give you a spanking. Did you get spankings from your neighbors? 602 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: A couple of swats on the behind? 603 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: Just a little? What were you doing? Do you remember 604 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: any recollection of what kind of trouble you used to. 605 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: Get I don't recall, but it was it was probably 606 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: I used to get in trouble. I would mimic people 607 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: and neighbors and things like that, and just you you 608 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: didn't do that, Yeah, I did. In Catholic school, I did. 609 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: I used to draw caricatures of the nuns and somewhere 610 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: appreciative and. 611 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes not so much. Did you always know you wanted 612 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: to be a dad? 613 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that. I I don't know that I 614 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: always wanted to be consciously, but I think I was 615 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: cut out to be I think you know, I mean 616 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I really do. I mean, I like 617 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: being a dad. My parents had three biological kids, three 618 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: adopted kids. 619 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 620 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: Two of my kids are biological, and my oldest, Courteney, 621 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: is adopted. And at the end of the day, I 622 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: enjoy it. I mean, you know, there's especially now. I 623 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: mean because I look at my co anchors Savannah and 624 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: Craig and Chanelle and Dylan, and and they've all got 625 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: these little kids and they have no lives. 626 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: This is what I mean. 627 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: I might have grown up and I just say I 628 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: did this, and then how do you have time? 629 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. This is what I mean. It's 630 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: it's such it's such an endeavor and such a responsibility. 631 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: Right now you are I mean, you've got a dog. Yes, 632 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: you don't have children, and so on the one hand, 633 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: you don't have that emotional component. But on the other hand, 634 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: you have all the time in the world and plenty 635 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: of disposable income. 636 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's really nice. That's what I mean to go. 637 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: I would like to trade that for children. It's just 638 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: an interesting choice. And that's where I say it's a 639 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: little reckless. You gotta go, you gotta not overthink it, 640 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: and you gotta just go. I'm gonna dive, I'm gonna 641 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: do it. I've always wanted to have kids. I don't 642 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: know if there's ever like a right time. 643 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: There is no yeah, there's no right yeah. 644 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: Some of the people I know who are my peers 645 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: who have children are sort of like kind of got 646 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: my my husband and I got pregnant or I wasn't 647 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: planning in this timing, but here we are and love 648 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: my kids like I think. 649 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 2: I think our parents had like when you're the youngest, 650 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: how old roughly, how old was your mom when she 651 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: got to bring it with you with the oldest with 652 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: the oldest? 653 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: Quick math, quick math, let's say twenty two or twenty three? 654 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so how old is your mom? 655 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: Now? My mom is? Oh ow math? Dang it? Okay, 656 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: Karen's hey, my mom is because I'm like that means 657 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: how old is my oldest sibling? Which literally don't know? 658 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: But let's let's call I know he won't listen though, 659 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, it's okay. He will never hear this. 660 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you will maybe somebody knows, yes, and then send 661 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: it to him. You know, your sister's how old you are? 662 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: But I would say she's in her Okay, hold am 663 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: I she's like sixty seven? 664 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: Okay, sixty seven. Yeah. But here, So here's the deal. 665 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: Our parents got married younger and had kids, bang those 666 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: kids out, and now their lives are their own. 667 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you know it's a nice. 668 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: But now a lot of young men and women waiting 669 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: till their thirties, it's true forties to have their kids. Yeah, 670 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 2: and now you're old parents, and so you're gonna run. 671 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: They're gonna run in and you can say, okay, you're 672 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: going to run into the case where there's like this 673 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: little kid and there people are like, is that her daughter? 674 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: Grad? You know? 675 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: And so like when I had when I had coordinate, 676 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: you know, oh your grand babies, I'm gonna check you 677 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: right into the pe in the grocery store. Oh she's 678 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: so Goodeah, I hold your granddaughter. 679 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Don't do that. Yeah, you know. But here's the thing. This, 680 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: my entire generation has seemingly just done everything later. We're 681 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: getting married later. Do you know what's going on in 682 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: my generation with dating? 683 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: I try not to. 684 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: Okay, good for you, I'm going to be honest. 685 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: I could care less. 686 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Lucky you. It's a jungle out here, it's a jungle. 687 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm you know what I'm gonna report to you. It 688 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: is that to jungle out here. 689 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: My middle girl is getting married and I'm so thrilled. Yes, 690 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: but she's twenty seven. Okay, so she's you know, I. 691 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: Mean, there's a thing apparently like millennials kind of messed 692 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: something up in terms of partnership, is my understanding. I've 693 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: been loosely reading articles about this, loosely like big Skin 694 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: read the yeah, some light research and no, no, no, 695 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: I don't my own research where I read the first 696 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: sentence of every paragraph and then say, I read the article, 697 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: and then gen z, they're back to dat. They're back 698 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: to wanting to like. I don't know that they're dating 699 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: because of social media, because I've done some college shows 700 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: and discovered by pulling the audience that they're not dating 701 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: the college I don't know, and I asked them, why 702 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: are we not dating? Do you want to be dating? Yes? 703 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: Are you dating? 704 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: No? 705 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: Why not? And then they all go fear of rejection. 706 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: They're too scared, So then. 707 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: They're alone. 708 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: They're alone, all of them, all of them seemingly. Of course, 709 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: we can't make blanket statements. 710 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: That's that's yeah, almost as sad as that plant in 711 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: the corner. It's not real, you know, I don't know 712 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: that anybody's gonna think it is. 713 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: No, is it too green? 714 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: It's shoe something I have to get. 715 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna lay down the law about the 716 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: way that. 717 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: It's too perfect, that it's to a plant that looks 718 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: like you. 719 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: Gotta get some burn, like a little sunny burn, a 720 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: little tripled leaves. These are very green. I hadn't looked. 721 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 1: I'm boring you so much. You're checking out the planet. 722 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: Here's the dam. 723 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 2: I'm a New Yorker, so your head is a situational 724 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: awareness all times. Okay, I'm always looking. 725 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: Do you know what's behind you? 726 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: There's another plant? 727 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: Okay, there's another but on the wall, there's a shelf. 728 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: There's a shelf exactly. 729 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: Okay, but you do that already. 730 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just. 731 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: You know. I'm from Bottimore. And I also like to 732 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: say that I keep my head on the swivel lot 733 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: of times, and I know what's going on around me. 734 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: I also say I'm hard to surprise, but I don't 735 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: know that that's actually true. In retroge, when I. 736 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: Look like you would be easy to surprise. 737 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: Come on, now, why would you say that about you? 738 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: Just do? 739 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: Do? I? Just wait? Tell me? Try to articulate this 740 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: for me, because. 741 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: I think you're very focused here mm hmm, but like 742 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: you really had to think about that plant. 743 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: Because I hadn't even looked at the plant. 744 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: How many of these have you done? 745 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: But this is I've never been in this studio. 746 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: So even more the reason. 747 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: I should have been, like you give sound advice. 748 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 2: I feel like, again, that's how I've gotten seventy one. 749 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: Let's call you wise, I mean old, It's not bad. 750 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: What skills would you say that you gained from your 751 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: father you have tried to instill in your children, because 752 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: right now I'm like, I need to be paying more attention. 753 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: I think I pay attention, but I don't, and you've 754 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: done that for me today. So thank you. 755 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: Don't be afraid to make a mistake. Okay, that that 756 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 2: that you're you know, it's you and well, on a 757 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: more serious note, one of the things he told me 758 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 2: saying this that as I was, you know, going to 759 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: high school and college, that you are going to have 760 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: to work twice as hard and be twice as good 761 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: to get half as far and I've taken. And plus 762 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 2: you know he was from the Bahamas, my mother was 763 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: from Jamaica. 764 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: You know. 765 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: You know they're you know, working three jobs, you know, 766 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: And that's and that's what I tell you. You got to work. 767 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: That's not a guarantee, but it certainly is more of 768 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: a guarantee than if you don't. 769 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that's I've heard that advice. 770 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: I think it rings so true. I can speak to that, 771 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: but I I think that's an important thing to instill 772 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: in your children, for them to know that that's the case. 773 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: You're not listen, You're not going to get everything right. 774 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: You're going to screw up. You're going to fail. Yeah, 775 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: you know, I said, yeah, listen, I do weather. That's 776 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: somewhat science based. I I uh, No great invention, no 777 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: great creation, no great anything advance has been made on 778 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 2: its first shot. That happens. 779 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, when they make a mistake, what does it look like? 780 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: Have they ever come to you and like, I really 781 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: screwed up here? And how have you navigated that? As 782 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: a dad? 783 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: For it's like, well, what what did we do? What'd 784 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 2: you do? Okay? How could what would you do differently? 785 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: What's what's the next thing you know, but you know 786 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 2: by the same token you know you. It's one of 787 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: the things my dad used to say to me, goes, listen, 788 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 2: no matter what you've tried to get away with, no 789 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 2: matter what you how you thought you were going to 790 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: get over I tried. It didn't work for me, not going. 791 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: To work for you, you know. 792 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: And and then you as as you get older, you 793 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: do realize how smart your parents are. 794 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: They really do know stuff they know, they actually know, 795 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: and you think they don't get it that whole Like 796 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: Will Smith's parents don't understan. I just don't understand Song. 797 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: I think about a lot because I'm like, actually, they 798 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: know some stuff. 799 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: They are Every kid thinks that their parent has no 800 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: idea what you're there, they are thinking, they are feeling 801 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: we didn't come out fully formed. 802 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: They went through the same stuff, had those experiences, so 803 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: you know that. 804 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 2: I think that's the uh to try to show some 805 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 2: sort of empathy and also but also, I'm not your friend. 806 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: Okay, this is something I've asked guests in the past. 807 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: Is it important for you to feel like your kid 808 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: or is it important for you to have your kids 809 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: feel like you are a friend to them? 810 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not your dad said, I'm not your friend, 811 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm your father. Yeah, this is not a democracy. You know. 812 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: Have you ever told them to do something and it's 813 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: like they might ask why, and you go because I said, so, 814 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: oh yeah. 815 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, defor's kind of a well give them an explanation. No. 816 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 2: First of all, that that erodes my authority. Just I 817 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 2: want I want blind devotion. 818 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a dictator ship exactly. Okay. I 819 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, in my mind, as a person who doesn't 820 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: have children, I'm always like, I can't wait when I 821 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: have a kid to be like, talk to me, why 822 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: don't you want to do that thing? 823 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: No? 824 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: No, And then I see some people whose parents did 825 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: do that to them, and I go, I don't know 826 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: that that's the way either. 827 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the things I every now and then 828 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 2: I do violate my rule and I'll say something to 829 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: Courtney with with my granddaughter's guys, don't don't ask her 830 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 2: what she wants. Tell her this is what you're eating. 831 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: Do you want this or do you want that? 832 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: No, there was none of that for you. 833 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 2: And my kids and Courtney, Leila nor Nick were given. 834 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 2: They ate what we ate. It was no making two. 835 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: Three don't you like that? Yeah, that is fascinating because 836 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: I also it was I love your reactions to that. 837 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: What parents are doing that every night? Yeah, this isn't 838 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: a restaurant. 839 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 2: And that's the see and that's why because I said so, 840 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 2: because it's easier. Yeah, Okay, As I said, I love 841 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: my children. I will lay down my life for my children. 842 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: But on the other hand, I want to make my 843 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: life as easy as possible. 844 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I love this. Now you're it's because 845 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: I said so for you, and that's kind of the 846 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: way you've navigated parenting in that regard. Now, is does 847 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: any part of you or did any part of you 848 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: worry that they might then have blind devotion to authority 849 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: and not question authority or were you like. 850 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: Because eventually they grow up and they realize, oh he's 851 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: an idiot, you know. Uh and no. But but I 852 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: think like a puppy. Yeah, they need parameters, they need 853 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: a crate, they need to be trained, and then once 854 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: they know, then you can let them off the leash. Sure, 855 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: when they you know that they're not going to stick 856 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: a fork and they fair enough. 857 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: But when I see when I when I'm like out 858 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: in public and my dog's being wild, and I'm like, stop. Sit. 859 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 1: You can see people uncomfortable with you, you know, demonstrating 860 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: authority with the dogs. 861 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 2: Well they're they're uncomfortable with it until the dog starts 862 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: to take a whizz on their shoes, you know. I mean, 863 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 2: there is nothing to me. Well, I shouldn't say nothing. 864 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 2: I hate when people say, you know what the worst is. 865 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: I said, I can give you whatever you're going to 866 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: tell me. You can give you ten ten things worse. Yeah, 867 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 2: so stop, but when you're and listen, I've traveled with 868 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 2: my kids when they were small. I want a parent 869 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: if I if some parent is with their kids and 870 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: letting the kid run rough, shot, just go crazy, or 871 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 2: they're on the plane and the kid is like being 872 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 2: obnoxious and the parent is making no effort effort to 873 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: control that child, then it's like you're a failure. That's 874 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: how you are a failure. 875 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: Do you do have to make an attempt? I think 876 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's helpful to everyone see you attempt. Yeah, 877 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: and then I think you deserve tons of empathy. 878 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 2: And and in fact, I was on a plane I 879 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: don't about six months ago, and the kid behind me 880 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 2: was kicking the seat and kept kicking the seat, and 881 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 2: finally I got it and I turned. I said, ma'am, 882 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 2: could you I said, I've traveled with my child. I 883 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: know it's tough, but could you make it at least 884 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: an effort to be so that he knows how to behave? 885 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: What did she say to that? 886 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: I will not repeat it. 887 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, it wasn't positive. I'm like al Roker. I'd 888 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: be like al Roker. 889 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: It was. It was a little less than friendly. 890 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't friendly. 891 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: It was not friendly, but it did begin with friendly. 892 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 2: Oh again with the same letter. 893 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: Oh f you. 894 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 2: And I said you, I said, and that's a lovely 895 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 2: example for your child. 896 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh. Everything all around the picture had been painted. How 897 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: long was the flight? 898 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: I was going to Chicago. 899 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple of hours. 900 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 2: But you know, listen, like the way baby's crying. Yeah, 901 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: I was like, it's okay, ear infection maybe something like that. 902 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: You can't you can't make an effort. Yeah, yeah that is, 903 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: But that's interesting. I didn't think that story was going 904 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: to go that way. I feel like, yeah, we'd hope 905 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: for the best. We only do we hope for the best, and. 906 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: That's you know what that's that's that's a good slogan 907 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 2: for parenting. 908 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: Yes, for the best. Are you generally an optimist? 909 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I am. Yeah, I'm an optimist with 910 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 2: realistic tense. 911 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: So then maybe you're a realist. 912 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. But I do like to think the best of people. 913 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: I really do. Yeah, until proven otherwise. 914 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: Such as on the plane, miss ma'am and the and 915 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: the little boy? Are you closer to so I'm not 916 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,959 Speaker 1: trying to find favorites, but are you closer to any 917 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: of your children right now than the other two? Because 918 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it goes and you know, everyone gefferent parents. 919 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: Our youngest is in college now and he's got you know, 920 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: he's got special needs. So he's home and he's just 921 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 2: a sweet boy, you know, he really is, and so 922 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 2: I just see more of him. Leela lives in Paris, 923 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: so you know, yeah, so. 924 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: I have to connect with her. Yes, okay, sorry, suh. 925 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 2: And and Courtney and my son in law West and 926 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: the baby Sky live in in New Jersey about. 927 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: An hour away. 928 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 2: So you know, it's an ebb and flow. But emotionally, 929 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: you know, I really do think we're you know there, 930 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 2: it's it's pretty equal, you know, I mean, I may 931 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 2: see Courtney more only because I almost I almost, uh 932 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: every night FaceTime with Sky. 933 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: Sky. You don't need Courtney gives Sky the. 934 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: Phone once I knows how to actually FaceTime. It's when 935 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 2: I go to pick her up. 936 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I. 937 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 2: Might even be able to circummend that by just going 938 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 2: to daycare and. 939 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: Get I feel bad for new parents because I sometimes 940 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: I have two nieces and what she's once The oldest 941 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: is four, and then her little sister is too, and 942 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: I'll call my brother and sister in law. But it's like, 943 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: can I talk to the girls, how are you? You're good? 944 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: Can I talk to the girls? And then sometimes I 945 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: have to go, you know what that has to suck 946 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: as a new parrot, to be like people are calling 947 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: my phone solely to talk to the child. So then 948 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: I but then exactly, but then I go out of 949 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: my way. Then I go, this phone call is for you. 950 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm calling now to talk to you. I am, I'm 951 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: calling to talk to you. Yeah, And we're all kind 952 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: of just looking at each other and how are you 953 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 1: and how are things? And the girls? Can I see 954 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: the girls? 955 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 2: I know I did call to talk to you, but 956 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: the girls were around I want to be upset. 957 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a bad thing. I know. I waited 958 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 1: to call till I knew they were home from so exactly. 959 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess it's obvious. It is obvious. Okay, 960 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: So now it's time for a segment called that's nice. 961 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: But what about me? 962 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 2: Okay? 963 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: We've talked about me a bit. Okay, but what about 964 00:46:59,520 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 1: me more? 965 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 2: Okay? 966 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: And this was actually the piece of advice. I wanted 967 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: to ask you how to know when you're ready to 968 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: have kids? And now I feel you. You have articulated 969 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: to me that I have a dog. I've practiced with that, 970 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: and you're never really ready. But if there is one 971 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: one sort of north star I can look to to go, 972 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: That's how I know I could maybe do this. 973 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 2: Breaks. 974 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,280 Speaker 1: So our roker is telling me to just go get pregnant. 975 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 2: Well wait, that's essentially. 976 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: That's essentially what I'm hearing. Okay, Yeah, just get pregnant 977 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: and I'll be ready. 978 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 2: How about him? 979 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: Just pick any any does anybody? If that's the case, 980 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: maybe after. 981 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 2: This well well let's back it up there, let's back 982 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 2: it up. Do you want to be married first? 983 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: I'd like to be. 984 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 2: Okay, are the prospects. 985 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship. 986 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a prospect. 987 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: That's a prospect serious. 988 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 2: I would never then, have you talked about We've talked. 989 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: About the things, all of them, children, all of it. 990 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,919 Speaker 2: Yes, he wants children. Yes, Okay, you. 991 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 1: Think I should just do it? 992 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 993 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 1: Would you officiate my wedding? 994 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I'm actually registered in the state of New York. 995 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: Have you so many weddings? Have you officiated? Two? 996 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 2: Three? Three? 997 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: Have you? Were you more nervous doing that than perhaps. 998 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 2: I got no skin in the game. 999 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: Okay, you're supposed to act like you really care. 1000 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 2: I did because I got a free dinner. Wow, I 1001 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 2: don't want them. I got a free trip. 1002 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 1: Do you ever get nervous anymore? 1003 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,240 Speaker 2: Oh? I get I'm nervous right now. No, I am constantly. 1004 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna here's the deal. Tell me if I think, 1005 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 2: if you care about what you do, whether it's relationship, job, whatever, 1006 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 2: you're always nervous. You don't want to screw it up. 1007 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 1008 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 2: If if you were doing this or whatever it is 1009 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 2: we do, and you're not nervous, it's probably time to go. 1010 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: Mmm. Okay that's good advice too, That's very good advice. 1011 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it is. 1012 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: I think it. I mean, that's your take. 1013 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 2: And plus the fact that if you've watched at any 1014 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 2: given moment, I could say something that could tank this career. 1015 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: That's so true in this day and age. Anything, and 1016 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: we're recording it'll live on. 1017 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 2: It. I feel badly in a way for the gen 1018 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 2: Z millennial type e because you you today listen most 1019 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: of us when we were in our early twenties, late teens, 1020 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 2: early twenties, we were dopes. You know, we did things, 1021 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 2: we said things. People grow, people change. 1022 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: And there's no real record of. 1023 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 2: It, and there's no record we got away with it. 1024 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 2: And it's like now everything you say, there's a cop 1025 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 2: there's a copy of. 1026 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: It's yea and someone you know what's always interesting that 1027 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 1: someone's like sitting on it somewhere waiting for you to 1028 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: like say, there's an actor, right, and they've been having 1029 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: this like slow build of a career, your normal trajectory, 1030 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 1: but then they land this big blockbuster film and everyone's 1031 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,760 Speaker 1: in love with them, and then all of a sudden, 1032 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: this video clip from nineteen ninety two surfaces and you're like, 1033 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: who was sitting on this just waiting for you? To 1034 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: get to the peak or what appears. 1035 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 2: To be a family member. 1036 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: Oh where is the optimism out? 1037 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hey listen, that's why. That's why when a 1038 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 2: business says we treat you like family, I run in 1039 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: the are. 1040 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: You're like, no, so you don't need that olive garden. 1041 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 1: No okay, no unlimited bread with a stick. I was 1042 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: going to say, the breasticks in the Alfredo sauce out 1043 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: the last time you've been you know what, I. 1044 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 2: Have never been to an olive garden. 1045 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. 1046 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 2: I've been to a Ponderosa. 1047 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: I've never been to a ponderosa. 1048 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: Who see, I don't even is Ponderosa still a thing. 1049 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 2: I don't even know if they're. 1050 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: Still I've never even heard of Pondera College. 1051 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 2: That was a big night out. Okay, I've been to 1052 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 2: a Love Me a red Lobster. 1053 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: The Cheddar come on, by the way. They they have 1054 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: a new CEO and I find him really funny. Oh 1055 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: you know they're not bringing back He said, we will 1056 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: not be bringing back unlimited in the strip and then 1057 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: they asked him why, and he said, because I can 1058 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 1: do math. 1059 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 2: Because that took them down. 1060 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect it, can I respect it. 1061 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 2: And anytime anybody says unlimited something, it's like, how good 1062 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 2: can that be? It is a business. Yes, it's like 1063 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 2: you if you see here's the words, you never really 1064 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 2: want to see all you can eat sushi. 1065 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: That just made my stomach turn. That's I'm not well, 1066 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 1: you know. 1067 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 2: And then you just get that and follow up with 1068 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: one of those those roller hot dogs at the seven eleventh. 1069 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't and those I like a hot 1070 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: dog off the girl. Every time I'd see those, I'd 1071 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: be like, and they've just been sitting there, what's going on? 1072 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: But if you're hungry and then a pinch, I can 1073 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: see how that happens. I could see how it not 1074 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: never couldn't be? 1075 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 2: Couldn't I take a. 1076 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: Could it be? I guess I'll. My big takeaway from 1077 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: our conversation is that I need to just go get 1078 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: pregnant today. 1079 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 2: Well I. 1080 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: Going to tomorrow. 1081 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 2: You know, well they're still tonight, you know, wait for night. 1082 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 2: No listen, I just think you know, it's if if 1083 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 2: you are in love, if you want to move, so 1084 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 2: let me so, what what's stopping you? 1085 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,720 Speaker 1: I just am a very reasonable person. 1086 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 2: I like, but you just said you got to be reckless. 1087 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: You got to be which is a reasonable reckless, and 1088 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: it's a balance. Maybe you gotta be like reasonably reckless. 1089 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the key. 1090 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 2: If you're already in love. Yeah, if you you know, 1091 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 2: if he has a good job. 1092 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just do it. 1093 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah Nike, Yeah, okay, so you get free sneakers. Maybe 1094 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 2: you'll get cute sneakers. 1095 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, I'll have that on. 1096 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 2: Suits. Come on, o kid. I could see the Instagram posts, but. 1097 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: You know what, this is the thing about it. People 1098 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,479 Speaker 1: are getting in relationships and having babies for the Instagram post, 1099 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: and that troubles me. 1100 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,240 Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that, but but I do think everything 1101 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 2: you've laid out here, I don't understand while if we 1102 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 2: if we do this in a year from now, you're not. 1103 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: Where you officiate my wedding. I need you to care. 1104 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 1: I have I you know, if you afficiate my wedding. 1105 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,959 Speaker 1: If you afficiate my wedding, I need you to care. 1106 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 2: I absolutely care. I want to. I don't know what 1107 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 2: your your significant other looks like, but I know what 1108 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: you so it's you know what. In fact, and I'm 1109 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 2: again not knowing what he looks like, but I think, yes, 1110 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 2: I think. I think babies of of an attractive person 1111 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 2: and somebody who's not that great looking are beautiful. Oh really, 1112 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: it's rare that you have two really beautiful people have 1113 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 2: beautiful children. 1114 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: That's what I think. By the way, I think, too 1115 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: stunning people always have a okay. 1116 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 2: Looking child exactly. That's why. 1117 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: That's why my kids look great, because Deborah, oh, you're 1118 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: so humble. 1119 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 2: You know what, I got a mirror. Okay, you know 1120 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 2: it's not like, wait, oh, come get this. 1121 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: No, wait, no, I have to ask because you said 1122 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: you if you're not nervous, that's a bad, bad sign 1123 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: in your marriage of X number of years. Do you 1124 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: ever feel nervous that Deborah will leave you? This is 1125 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: a question for me because I'm always like, how do 1126 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: you know? It feels like anyone could go at any time? Obviously, 1127 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: but does that ever like occur to you. 1128 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 2: Because let's face it, any any anything can happen. I 1129 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 2: don't think it will. I mean, she's kind of stuck. 1130 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 1: This is she stuck with you. 1131 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 2: She stuck it out. She stuck it out, so you know, 1132 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,359 Speaker 2: so I think we're we're at that point where, you know, 1133 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 2: like the other day, I mean, we just literally sitting around. Okay, 1134 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 2: here's this is when you know you've become your parents. 1135 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 2: We're sitting at home. We had just finished watching Jeopardy 1136 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 2: and we then queued up on the d v R Matlock, 1137 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 2: the new Matlock with Kathy Bates. 1138 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 1: It's really good. Kathy Bates is incredible misery. Have you 1139 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: seen it? 1140 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 2: Of course? 1141 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1142 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 2: Anyway, that's I still have nightmares. Yeah, this Matlock, the pilot. 1143 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 2: The end of the pilot. You see there's a turn 1144 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 2: you never saw coming. Okay, it's great, Okay, but that's 1145 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: where we are now. You know, the idea that you know, 1146 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 2: we should be out partying and it's over. 1147 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: One of the last times I saw you was at 1148 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 1: a party in Paris. 1149 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, but I was working. 1150 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: You were. I was working also, you were. 1151 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 2: Didn't we look good? 1152 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: We looked great, fantastic. Maybe we'll put a picture at 1153 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: the end. I have our selfies for That's. 1154 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 2: What I'm you know, listen, I just think that, uh, 1155 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 2: there's really no reason on God's green Earth that you 1156 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,879 Speaker 2: shouldn't be getting married and popping. 1157 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: Out Okay, one or two, maybe even three, you. 1158 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 2: Know, or maybe your luck out twins right off. 1159 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: The back I don't. For me, that's not luck. 1160 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't. I know several couples with twins that I've 1161 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 2: I love each of my children. I would jump out 1162 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 2: a window if any one of them was a twin. 1163 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: Yes, if they arrived at the same time. Because I 1164 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: keep hearing this thing about like so twins run it's 1165 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 1: sort of genetic or something. I don't know if that's 1166 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: a myth, but we're gonna go with it that it 1167 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: like skips a generation. And then it's yeah, triplets. My 1168 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: grandmother had triplets. And can I tell you if I 1169 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,760 Speaker 1: had triplets, I'm saying this now, and if these future 1170 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 1: kids are triplets and they hear this, I stand by this. 1171 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't want that. I really don't want that. 1172 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know we should. I have one children in kindergarten. 1173 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: Huh. 1174 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: You get what you're getting. You don't get upset. 1175 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, Okay, okay, out roker, you're officiating my wedding. 1176 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 1: If I give birth to triplets, I care. 1177 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 2: I'll be in the hospital. I'll be in the hospital. 1178 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 2: You don't have to come in there, but I'm not there. 1179 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:57,280 Speaker 3: With no hopefully, here we go, here we go, Hey, 1180 00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 3: right over the pl co here we go. 1181 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, min not talk about nightmares. Talk about misery giving 1182 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: you nightmares? That would give me nightmares everything. Why is 1183 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: out broker delivering my baby? I thought we can offficiate 1184 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: my wedding, and now he's kicked the doctor out of 1185 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: the delivery room and he's catching my baby. 1186 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 2: He needs a batter and I'm glench you're the oil 1187 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 2: for the circumcision. Hey, but I only take tips. 1188 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write that movie. That's a spooky movie. Okay, 1189 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: Now it's not just about me. We help our listeners 1190 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: on this podcast too. Ol. I have a text from 1191 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: a listener, Okay, I like that behind magic, I have 1192 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: a text from a listener okay, asking for advice. Oka 1193 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: and okay. Here it is Hi from Baltimore City, Ago 1194 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: and guests shout out to Baltimore. Okay, here's my question 1195 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: for you guys. How much partying is okay after forty 1196 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: I have friends that are forty eight years old going 1197 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: to the strip club and getting drunk every weekend. I'm 1198 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: forty and can barely have an occasional martini without regrets. Help. 1199 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 2: I think you need to get other friends. 1200 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: And it also sounds like it's one friend, because forty 1201 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: eight is a. 1202 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: Specific specific age. 1203 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: That is, somebody in Baltimore City is shouting out their 1204 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: forty eight year old friend who is going to the 1205 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: strip club and getting drunk every weekend. 1206 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think I think they ought to just 1207 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 2: leave that friend alone. 1208 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: Okay, it's more about that. 1209 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the friend. Because your life's okay, there's something 1210 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 2: wrong with this person. If there's a forty eight still 1211 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 2: going out to the slip the strip club and getting 1212 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 2: drunk every weekend. 1213 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like I feel like that person should 1214 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: have a child, right. 1215 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, that person should have a child, 1216 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 3: not even a dog. 1217 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: No that person no, no, no, no, that person needs 1218 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: a twelve step person. 1219 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: Fair enough, you know what. You're right, we'll start there, 1220 00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: stepeah no, no, no, getting okay, no no, no, yes, okay. 1221 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 2: In fact, that it disturbed me a little bit that 1222 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 2: you thought that a person should get a job. 1223 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: Well, because I'm like, there, it feels like they need 1224 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 1: a different place to put this energy. 1225 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 2: They have a lot of energy therapy. It's called rehab. 1226 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: You're so right. I don't know why. Well, it's because 1227 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: of my new mind of reasoning about the rate. 1228 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 2: You haven't gotten to that into that mindset. Yes, once 1229 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 2: once you flip the switch that okay we're doing this, 1230 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah you'll see. 1231 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: Okay, it'll happen. We'll have you been after that start. Okay, 1232 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: we'll have you back. Because also the person says how 1233 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: much partying is okay after forty Then they go in 1234 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: to describe their own life and it sounds fine, and 1235 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: so it feels like you're asking about your friend. 1236 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a friend. I think it's them. 1237 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: You think it's them, and they're pretending asking for a friend, 1238 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 1: but it's really they're the forty eight year old partying 1239 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: and going to strip clubs. I mean that sounds that 1240 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: doesn't sound fun to me. And I'm not forty eight. No, 1241 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm not forty and that doesn't sound fun to me. 1242 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: I never really went out partying. Yeah, I'm the fact 1243 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 2: of the matter is I am very much kind of 1244 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,439 Speaker 2: a homebody. I the only reason I know anybody of 1245 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 2: any significance is because of Deborah, because she likes going out. 1246 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1247 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 2: I if we were left to me, other than maybe 1248 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 2: having some other friends over, you know, two or three 1249 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 2: other couples. 1250 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't you need that balance. 1251 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't like to go out, especially those black tie events. 1252 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Oh it's a lot, it's the worst. 1253 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:27,479 Speaker 1: It's I can tell you, I got the worst things. 1254 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 2: You'll be at a black tie event with a kid 1255 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 2: kicking your seat. 1256 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeh goodness. And then someone says, f you. 1257 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: The only the only possibly good thing about those, especially 1258 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 2: the cocktail out. If they've got pigs in a blanket. 1259 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: You like pigs in a blankets? 1260 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you don't like a pig in a blanket. 1261 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't like pigs in a blanket. No, I don't. 1262 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,479 Speaker 1: I don't I want my pigs. 1263 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 2: I don't. 1264 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: I want my pigs in a bun. 1265 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 2: I don't know that I can get you? Can I 1266 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 2: can get you married? 1267 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, because my wedding is probably going to be 1268 01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: black tie as well. 1269 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 2: But you could have pigs in a blanket. 1270 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: My boyfriend likes pigs in a blanket. Okay, so maybe 1271 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: we can compromise. If the efficient and there and this is. 1272 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 2: Okay, here's the one of the secrets. Yeah, compromise, compromise 1273 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 2: you pigs in a blanket. You can have crab cakes? Yeah? 1274 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,919 Speaker 1: And how did you know I wanted crab cake from Baltimore? Wow, yeah, 1275 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: I have. I love crab cakes. 1276 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 2: That would be my last big as your head. 1277 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 1: I know. And it's all crab meat, clump, crab me, 1278 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 1: no filler. 1279 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 2: It's all crab me. 1280 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: That's how it's supposed to be. 1281 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,919 Speaker 2: Like you could almost burrow in there and live. 1282 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good. You know what. 1283 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Another place I think it's closed now, but I used 1284 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 2: to live love Old O Bricky's Crab House. 1285 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know if it's I don't know if 1286 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 1: it's great. 1287 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 2: You go there, especially in soft shell crab season Yeah, 1288 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 2: a piece of brown paper. They would dump a basket 1289 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 2: of crabs that had been steamed. I yeah, an old 1290 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 2: bay seasoning, a ring of fire around your mouth. You 1291 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 2: had a wooden mallet. 1292 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: You just want to use papers on the table there 1293 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: to clean up into the tablecloth. It's a dream I 1294 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: do too. I love being from there. I remember getting 1295 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: crab My mom would buy crap on the side of 1296 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: the road. The crabbers would have him and put them 1297 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 1: in a big brown bag for you. You take them home, 1298 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: steam them in Old Bay Heaven. 1299 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 2: I always did for a moment feel bad for the crabs. 1300 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Really well, you know, because then they are trying to cray. 1301 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 2: I mean you can't hear that, but. 1302 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Scrambling, what do you say? We don't think about that. 1303 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Okay, don't ruin, don't. 1304 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: Ruin my last meal. Well, you know what, when I 1305 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: have a crab cake, I like it because. 1306 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 2: People ask that about the last meal. 1307 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: It's silly, but I. 1308 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 2: Know it's enjoying that. It's whatever you're getting. You know 1309 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 2: you're not going to enjoy. 1310 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 1: You might. 1311 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 1312 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: I might see. Food makes me inordinately. 1313 01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm about to strap you in and for a thousand 1314 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 2: volts through you. But you enjoy that crab cake. It's good. 1315 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 2: Too bad. 1316 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: My issue is that I would be like, that's fine, 1317 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm content. Give me a crab cake, lump crab meat, 1318 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, zap me, zap me wherever I'm 1319 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: ready to go. Every time I have a good meal, 1320 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, this could be it, this could be it. 1321 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good food. You fork to me. It's actually strange. 1322 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 2: But I never think, oh I can die. 1323 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: Now I do? That's weird? Huh seek counsel? Should I? 1324 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, maybe we hold off on the kids. 1325 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Okay, this is what I'm trying to tell you. 1326 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 2: Check up. You'll check up from the neck up, see 1327 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 2: what's happening. 1328 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: I knew I could get you on my side. Oh, 1329 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 1: it's been pure joy talking to you. 1330 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 2: It's over. 1331 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Was it too soon? We could keep talking? 1332 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 2: So much of when in my career has been too soon? Yeah? 1333 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I love this. I love this. It was the perfect 1334 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: amount of time I could keep talking to you. I 1335 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,439 Speaker 1: have many I have so many other questions. A please 1336 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: come back one day, okay, when you're pregnant, when I'm pregnant. 1337 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 2: After I've officiated, after. 1338 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: You've officiated the wedding, we will serve you pap. Yeah. 1339 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: I might then have to have a second officiant though 1340 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: as well. Well, then you have to meet. Well, we'll 1341 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: have to talk offline. We'll plan this, will plan this. 1342 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 2: This has been peer to boyfriend's. 1343 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. You know that he will he will. Okay, Well, 1344 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: everyone loves Albro. I'm trying to figure out about the 1345 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: lady on the plane. Well, anyway, I've loved having you know. 1346 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 2: It's funny because I've had a number of altercations encounters 1347 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 2: on the plane, and it's always when Debra's not with me, 1348 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 2: and she says, you've got to stop traveling without me. 1349 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, let's get Deborah on all these 1350 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: flights with you twenty twenty six. That's the mission, is 1351 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Deborah on the plane? All right? Thank you so much. 1352 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 1: Well that was my talk with the Al Roker. How 1353 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: fun is he? Goodness? You know, I didn't know. I 1354 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,439 Speaker 1: didn't know the full scope of Al's personality. Now I've 1355 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: met him, we've hung out, we've seen each other in 1356 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 1: the wild. But I'm like, Al is a good time. 1357 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 1: It's too bad he's a homebody. But I can relate 1358 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: because I also like to be at home. And I 1359 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: guess I'm supposed to go have a baby now, so 1360 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 1: I have to go. But before I go, I should say, 1361 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: if you want advice, you should call the podcast hotline. 1362 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: That's what I'm calling it right now. It's five zero two. 1363 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Thanks dads. That's five zero two THHX. Dad's d A 1364 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: d S. I just think about how to spell Dad's wow, 1365 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 1: because I'm right now my mind is just on baby. 1366 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm going to go get pregnant tonight. Guys, 1367 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: don't worry, it's not happening. But that was his advice 1368 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: to me tonight. Tonight's the night anyway. If you want advice, call, 1369 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: leave a voicemail my guest, and I will give you advice. 1370 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed and see you in the next one. 1371 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: Thanks Dad. Is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money 1372 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 1: Players and iHeart Podcasts. 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