1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: The volume. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, NYC. What's happening? Yeah, yeah, 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: You know team got home court the NYC. You know 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: That's off the books of the show Man first Seas. First, 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: we appreciate y'all pulling up. Shout out to my god 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Marcus having this few of our culture. We appreciate y'all. 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Man Club five twenty Man, I'm the host. My name 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: is DJ Wells. I got my game with me to 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: my far for our left, my dog Bi should be 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: hearing out the pearles. 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: How you what nasty? 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 4: Cool and nasty? 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: What's up in New York? 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: You know the vibe to a right that back home here? 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: But show still to my right, my dog young not 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: yo your tea? How you are brother man? I'm cooling, man, 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. It's a good vibe in here. 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: Already we can be ourselves. So that's all I needed 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: to hear. Oh yeah, he already set the tone. 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: Man. 22 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Listen, man, we're gonna have some great guests today. Let's 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: start it off right man. We got two of basketball 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: spinders joining us on the stage right now. We got 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: from the Legends Basketball Survived, My man, Chris and last 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 1: a certain lot at least one of the best talent 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: evaluators in basketball. 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Coach P Paul j N already appreciate y'all. 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Come on up, y'all, show ups a love, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Hey showing the DJ some love, My boy going crazy 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: with the segments. 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: Tap me me in for showing show ups a love. 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: Listen, man, it's a lot of basketball up here. But 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: first things first, you know what I'm saying. We love 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: having a good storytime here at Club five twenty for 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: coach P and T. Y'all got a connection from way 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: back man letting people know about it. 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: Oh he told me today, Yeah, you worked. He knew 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: my father. So I'll let you explain the first and 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: that I could comment about it. 41 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: So when I was grew up in Boston and I 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: used to attend practice is at Boston University when Rick Patino, 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 5: you're Saint John's coach, was the head coach. 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Let's hear it for Rick and Saint John's yeah on 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: top of the Johnny love. 46 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, uh no. 47 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 7: It is. 48 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: So I'm a young college player trying to walk on 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 5: Division three and I'd go to all the practices in Boston. 50 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 5: So I went to Boston University watched Patino practice. Jeff's dad, 51 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 5: Shaun Tigue, was there. He was one tough son. 52 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: Of a bitch. 53 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: I can say that, right, Marcus, say anything I want, 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 5: Coach Am I right though, your dad tough, hard nose player. 55 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't know he was. He was sad to me, 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: but I'll let you go. 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 5: That's not what I saw him practice. 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: Now, so you telling me that and he gonna watch 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: this show and you giving him all that love. Now, 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm not to hear that for the rest of my 61 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: life that he was a good player, and every day I. 62 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: Was telling me so. 63 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 5: So he's a og man. 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: Don't say that now you got og title. It's crazy 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: for sure. Ben. 66 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Listen, what my favorite things about basketball? And you got 67 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: a lot of vantage points. A lot of people are 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: play a part in people being successful. 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: One of the best traders around, Chris Man. 70 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: Please tell the people how you got started and say 71 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: helping people get to the next level. 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, shout out to Marcus, my guy. 73 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 8: I met Marcus at USA basketball. Okay, so I had 74 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 8: a couple of players on the USA team and I 75 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 8: met him with Tobias Harris. So Tobias and him are 76 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 8: really good friends. And I've been a part of Harris's 77 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 8: family for a while. And we met gambling with me 78 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 8: and him and Russell Westbrook. 79 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: So we were. 80 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 8: We were gambling and me and Marcus was looking like, hey, 81 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 8: double down on zero. We was telling Russ the next 82 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 8: one they hit with zero, which payout is like thirty 83 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 8: three to one, and nobody on it. But that's how 84 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 8: I'm at Marcus and you being in a basketball space. 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 8: It's all about community and it's all about you know, 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 8: the youth, the ground, the grassroot, and it's all about 87 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 8: you know, it's a small circle. And I went from 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 8: being a player and understanding like what my true craft is. 89 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 8: So my true craft is not hooping. My true craft 90 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 8: is developing people and really taking it into like a 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 8: science of like understanding, like mental mental health, mental wellness, 92 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 8: like understanding moves, you know, looking at people and being 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 8: able to identify not just what their skill set is, 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 8: but who they really are. So basketball for me has 95 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 8: been great, and to be around the world, to be 96 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 8: able to touch people around the world through basketball, it's just. 97 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: Been a great vehicle. 98 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: Most definitely, one thing I like about you Chris, is 99 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: the fact that you said off the court is just 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: as important as on the court, and coach, you can 101 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: contest it. Is you evaluate talent, you have to evaluate 102 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: the person as well. Do you keep that in your 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: mind where you go through rankings and stuff like that. 104 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: It's like on court, but off the court is just 105 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: as an important. 106 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely. I put a big emphasis on traits, not just talent. 107 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 5: There's a lot of talent out there, but talent doesn't 108 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 5: develop without traits. I believe that your your traits can 109 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: protect your talent and it can grow your talent. A 110 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 5: lot of talented guys with red flags. That's why they 111 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 5: don't make it in the basketball space and sometimes they 112 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 5: don't make it in the professional space. So character, to 113 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 5: me is huge. Every high school player I have a 114 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 5: chance to talk to, I tell them three things. Focus 115 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 5: on character, academics, and talent. I tell them to chase 116 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 5: the cat. That's the acronym. 117 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: So far as there's a hell of an acronym, coach 118 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: that might get you in trouble too. 119 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 9: So far as the talent side of it, though, how 121 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 9: you go about like ranking a player? 122 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: What are the steps? 123 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: Well? 124 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: I coach for a long time so I have that. 125 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: Hopefully I have the experience right and background and seeing 126 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 5: the players at the highest level of college. I coach 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: at Ohio State, Boston College, so I know what the 128 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 5: high major looks like. Been a head coach at Wright 129 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 5: State mid major, and I was an assistant with Rick 130 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: Majeris at Saint Louis University then he passed away. So 131 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: for twenty two years I've been in the college game 132 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: as a head coach or an assistant. 133 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: So I look at. 134 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: Different categories that are important to the game talent wise. 135 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 5: First athleticism. You have to see who has the athleticism, 136 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 5: who has the measurables skill level, who can impact the 137 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: game without scoring for me? And I know for Chris 138 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 5: basketball IQ is missing in the game and it's needed. 139 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 5: And I look for kids that understand what they're doing 140 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: and why they're doing it. Quick story on that. Talk 141 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 5: to an NBA assistant coach just this year and he said, 142 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: half our team doesn't know where to go on the court. 143 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 5: They don't know when I say cut, they don't understand 144 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 5: when I say screen, they don't know how This is 145 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 5: a high level NBA assistant. So basketball IQ is another factor. 146 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: And then I put the traits competitiveness, coachability, body language, 147 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 5: and being a caring teammate. Those are my top four. 148 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: Because you had Jeff rank so low high school. 149 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: So I just wanted to. 150 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get I checked that before I came. Yeah 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 5: about that, okay, all right, well here's the disclaimer. 152 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: I wasn't doing it then. 153 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: I was coaching to. 154 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: Say, Louis when you come out of high school, So 155 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: blame the guy before me. 156 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: I need to talk to him. Was that they had met. 157 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't know what That's why I got the job. 158 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: They have bad eyes. 159 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: You're right. I had your brother up high. 160 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: You did shouts to FoST when you moved, shout to him. 161 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, thank you for that. Though you're trying to 162 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 5: put me in a corner. You can't put a boss 163 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 5: the guy in a corner in New York. Not good. 164 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: But so yeah, he tried to it up for you. 165 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: Paul's but listen, oh in YC. Yeah yeah, y'all know 166 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: what time it is? We playing them games? I said, 167 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Paul's Relax, now you know what I'm saying. We only 168 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: got introduced to each other. Why is Kayane Anthony not 169 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: McDonald's all American. 170 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: What you got to do with that? 171 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: I need to know. 172 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: Committee votes. 173 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: Who is the committee? 174 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 5: Yes, a lot of people who oh, different people. There's 175 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 5: a whole list of people we live in. You got 176 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: to reach out to McDonald's to get that. That that's 177 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 5: information that didn't want me to give out. 178 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: So if you reach out, they'll give it. 179 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: To you McDonald's. 180 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 5: But honestly, it's always been a vote. Look, I recruited 181 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 5: McDonald's All Americans. Now I'm voting for them. There's so 182 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 5: many great players every year, and Kayanne's a great basketball player, 183 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 5: especially on the offensive end, and he's a really likable kid. 184 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 5: Not to get voted in, somebody has to get left out. 185 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: There's other guys too that had great high school careers 186 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: this year. Great, I mean great. I don't throw all 187 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 5: compliments unless they're they're earned. They didn't make it either. 188 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 4: Son on the West Coast. 189 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 8: I think six eighty McDonald's All Americans in California. 190 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 4: At one point it used to be like two per stake. Yeah, 191 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 4: and so now yeah. 192 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 5: They don't do that. It's not about it's the twenty 193 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 5: four best players in the committee's mind, based on the 194 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: criteria that they give you, which is who can be 195 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 5: a pro, who's dominated the game at the high school level, 196 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: and who has the greatest upside among the group. And 197 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 5: that gets difficult, as you know, you make a list 198 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 5: top one hundred, top two hundred, somebody's going to be 199 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 5: left off that could be deserved. Just like the NCAA tournament. 200 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 5: We were talking about that in the back room. Yes, sir, 201 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 5: teams that got in maybe shouldn't have teams that didn't 202 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 5: make it North Carolina, Yeah okay, and then you know, 203 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 5: other people didn't make the tournament. That's the unfortunate part 204 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: of making a list. 205 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I guess that was a pr answer. 206 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: Respect, What would you like me to say the truth? 207 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 6: I just did. 208 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 5: He didn't make it. 209 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: He didn't get hold of Hey, I like him. 210 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 3: You got to watch him. 211 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 9: You gotta watching someone to ask you like, I'm good, 212 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 9: I got I'm back on you next hold on, Chris. 213 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 10: That's crazy, you know, you know, yeah, oh, Jeff, Jeff, 214 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 10: this wasn't in the contract. 215 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 9: Now, Chris, I wanted to ask you, like, who was 216 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 9: that first player? Did you develop him in high school, 217 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 9: college or the pros? 218 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: Like first? 219 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? 220 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, cool? Or even that you you might have started 221 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: with a pro. 222 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 11: I heard you basically changed Jimmy Butler game round. 223 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember him in Minnesota. 224 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy. 225 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 8: Shout out to Jimmy because getting traded a Golden State. 226 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: I think they're like fifteen and two. 227 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and okay, look at Jimmy. 228 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 8: With Jimmy, Jimmy's very interesting because Jimmy does. 229 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: All the things that you just mentioned. 230 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: Right. 231 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: He wasn't ranked in high school. 232 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 8: He wasn't ranked in the city of Houston where I'm from, 233 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 8: he wasn't on the top scholarship boards. Coach Bulls Williams 234 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 8: gave him a scholarship going to Marquette the thirtieth pick 235 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 8: in the draft. 236 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: So when he got to me, when. 237 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 8: I looked at Jimmy, Jimmy has what you need to 238 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 8: be a pro. It really doesn't matter how you start, 239 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 8: but when you pick up, you know that I got 240 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 8: to prove something. I got to go out and change 241 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 8: my life. I come from nothing. When I get that 242 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 8: type of ingredients, like a player like Jimmy, it's easy 243 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 8: to develop because he already had the mindset, he already 244 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 8: had the competition, and he already had the will and 245 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 8: the want to be that So I put Jimmy on 246 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 8: a five day workout, play like five workouts a day, 247 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 8: like micro. 248 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: I had him trained with the point guards. 249 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 8: I had him trained with two guards, the forwards and 250 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 8: the sentence. So when you watch him play now with 251 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 8: Go to State, he can play anywhere on the court. 252 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 8: He got all the footwork. 253 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: And he has the ability to make the team better. 254 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 8: And so that journey with Jimmy was great because he 255 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 8: gave me an opportunity, a platform to be able to 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 8: build him and to build him into something great. And 257 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 8: that year people don't know Jeff when he was in Chicago, 258 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 8: Jimmy had a contract I think about forty six million. 259 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 8: He came to me and was like, say, bro, I'm 260 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 8: a decline. I was like, bro, I can't tell you 261 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 8: to climb forty eight million. I ain't got forty eight million. 262 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 8: I can't tell you the decline. And he was like, no, 263 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,479 Speaker 8: I'm gonna get max. I put into work. I'm focused, 264 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 8: and I don't give a fuck. 265 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: Turned it down. 266 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 8: And once he turned it down, at the end of 267 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 8: the year, he was Most Improved Player of the Year, 268 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 8: First Team All NBA NBA All Star got a picture 269 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 8: of us taking that picture of signing a hundred million 270 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 8: dollar max contract for the Chicago Bulls. And that's a 271 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 8: player that wasn't rained, sir, He wasn't on nobody board. 272 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: It just comes from peer desire of what you want 273 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: to become. 274 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: That's the fun. 275 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Now, listen, if I ain't the best advertisment to tapping 276 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: of a Christmas training on what to tell you, Well, 277 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: you just he just sold the ship out of me. 278 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: I'm about to get back out of. 279 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: You would have took that risk? 280 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, no, no, that would have been signed. 281 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: I said, Chris, you're right, No, you can't. 282 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 8: You can't take that risk because there's so many players 283 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 8: that have had your teammate before. 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Jimmy is a true competitive 360 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 8: Jimmy crazy. 361 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: Suah hey yo aw he said. 362 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 8: He said, Jimmy is the type of guy to keep receipts. 363 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 8: Let's just start there. He ain't forgetting, he plays Domino's. 364 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 8: He's he's ultra competitive. You know, and sometimes guys that 365 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 8: are really competitive, they just black out and they just 366 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 8: focus on what's that in the moment, and him going 367 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 8: to practice was just a build up of what was 368 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 8: going on in his life at that moment. And when 369 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 8: you have that in you where he started for nothing, 370 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 8: playing with the third team and going after cad and 371 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 8: going after people, those are true stories. But he was 372 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 8: there to show them that he wanted to win so bad. Now, Jeff, 373 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 8: before you got there the year before, let's talk about this. 374 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 4: After All Star. 375 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 8: Break, Jimmy tore his meniscus a euro step against the Rockets. 376 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: Oh no, I was there. 377 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: Oh he was on the team. 378 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we came the same year. 379 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 4: Yep. 380 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: So Jimmy called me. I wish you wouldn't have He 381 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: should have told me he was gonna do that. Shit, 382 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: how was State of Indiana. 383 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 8: But exactly, But to show you the type of competitor 384 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 8: is show you that practice. Jimmy could have canceled the season. Sure, 385 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 8: I told him once again, counsel the season. He looked 386 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 8: at me and as like Minnesota had never been in 387 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 8: the playoffs, like in fourteen years or something. 388 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: He was like, I'm gonna come back. 389 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 8: I'm gonna make us go to the playoffs, and I'm 390 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 8: gonna sacrifice my body for this team and for the organization. 391 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 8: And we left. We went to California and we trained. 392 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 8: He went out of surgery. We started training the next day, 393 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 8: sitting in a chair, dribbling. Four weeks later he was back, 394 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 8: and I think he had like thirty eight thirty six. 395 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: First game back was in LA I told him to 396 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: sit out. 397 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: I was trying to kill they was in there that night. 398 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: I had seen some people I wanted to something body. 399 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: Crazy. 400 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: All right, man, before we get out of here, when 401 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I ask both of you, gentlemen, keep his brief as 402 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: you can. Obviously, is there a big change of how 403 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: you go across dealing with younger athletes with the NIL effects? 404 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 5: Well, nil now is in the high school game. Forty 405 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: states allow nil and the other states will eventually doesn't 406 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 5: affect what I do at all. It's more so what 407 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 5: happens to the players. 408 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: The public school. 409 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 5: Public schools have lost a lot of kids going to 410 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 5: private schools because a lot of the public schools, and Jeff, 411 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: you could probably speak on this, being the head coach 412 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 5: of Pike High School, kids will leave for the private 413 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 5: schools because the NIL is more open. Each state association 414 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 5: makes their own rules, but at the end of the day, 415 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 5: the government is going to decide NIL, not state associations. 416 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 5: But for what I do, the only thing I noticed 417 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 5: is when kids get NIL, I take a look to 418 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: see if their game starts to digress because of all 419 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: the distractions. I tell every kid that will listen in parent, 420 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 5: you know, your brand is not your brand. Your game 421 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 5: is your brand. And when they decide to have a brand, 422 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: to have a business to make money. 423 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: We're all cool with that. 424 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: But when it affects your game or your grades, it's 425 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: not a good thing. So and it's a hard thing 426 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 5: to balance because adults can't balance money and game. So 427 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 5: now you have a teenager grades, school, game, money, it's 428 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: a hard balancing act. But for me, I just continue 429 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 5: to watch the progression of the digression of them on 430 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 5: the court, their talent, their impact, and then I always 431 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 5: keep an eye on their traits. 432 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: Mo Stepan, Chris want to ask you this as a 433 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: parent of a kid, it's going crazy right now. You know, 434 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, obviously you got the game and the knowledge, 435 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: but you see, as other teammates, how is that for 436 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: them to kind of adjust to this new type of 437 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: lifestyle or opportunity. You got a lot of kids, like 438 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: you said, they come from nothing. Somebody way of checking 439 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: your face. You can change your mama life today, but 440 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: that check may not last longer if you go crazy 441 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: later and get more money. 442 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, as a parent, my son is going to Colorado, 443 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 8: shout out to Colorado, Big twelve, Yes sir, and he's 444 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 8: yeah taboid, he can play. I think it's the big 445 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 8: thing is building a system and community around the kids. 446 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: Right. 447 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 8: The money's always been there, so the money's not changing kids. 448 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 8: Social media has changed kids and the fact of like 449 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 8: showcasing what you actually have. So you just need to 450 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 8: educate kids on how to utilize the platform of social 451 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 8: media to be beneficial so versus them having to do 452 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 8: it themselves. 453 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: Just hire a team. So it's there. So we just 454 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: need to educate the. 455 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 8: Kids, the community, the system, the people around them of 456 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 8: how to hire people to put in place that can 457 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 8: manage those things for them so they can keep the 458 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 8: main thing. 459 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 4: The main thing. 460 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 8: Now, what I've learned having people kids that come from 461 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 8: influent houses, those are your top basketball players right now. 462 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 8: The people that can afford training you don't see a 463 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 8: lot of kids in the hood getting the right training 464 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 8: because they can't afford it. It's become a business now. 465 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 8: So like for myself, if I got a person that's 466 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 8: in a hood, I make enough money where I can 467 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 8: just say you good, I'm gonna take care of you. 468 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 8: I'm gonna build you from the ground up, so his 469 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 8: sacrifice will be different. But you find people now that 470 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 8: parents can afford training, their skill sets are much better. 471 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 8: So it's really has nothing to do with nil. It 472 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 8: really comes down to what's in your chest, who's around 473 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 8: you if you want to really play basketball, or you 474 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 8: want to be a celebrity or influencer, because there's three 475 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 8: different levels to that. So we can't box a kid 476 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 8: in Because I got people that parents are filthy rich 477 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 8: and play basketball in the NBA, as so many kids 478 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 8: that I have that dad played in the NBA. That's 479 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 8: better than a kid straight out the hood because he 480 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 8: has more opportunity to get trained and to be developed. 481 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 8: So that's why you looking at the NBA now, you 482 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 8: see a lot of kids of dads that play in 483 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 8: the NBA because they have the resources to be able 484 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 8: to get to that level. 485 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: But do you think it lacked passion now, because I 486 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: think when you come from nothing and you are hoping 487 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: the passion be a little different. 488 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: It does. 489 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 8: A look, it does be a little different. But then 490 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 8: I look at Steph Curry. 491 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: But then I look at Anthony Edwards. 492 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: I think we all can relate to him a little different, yeah, 493 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: than we can to Steph Curry. 494 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 8: Right, I mean, but we can relate. But when I 495 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 8: look at Staph, I look at Clay, I look at 496 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 8: some of the two parent households by in the NBA 497 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 8: that people don't talk about because the game of basketball, 498 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 8: no offense fall is a black dominated game. And so 499 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 8: when you look at that hero, no offense, but it's 500 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 8: dominated by black players, and so a lot of people 501 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 8: don't talk about two parents. They don't talk about the 502 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 8: two parent household, you know. And so being a two 503 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 8: parent household, you can produce a mentally tough kid. You 504 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 8: don't have to be abused to be mentally tough. 505 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: It's her. 506 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 5: We're down on time. But I want to tell this 507 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 5: for everyone more watching whoever coaches trains parents. We talked 508 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 5: about social media, you talked about mental wellness. We can 509 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: talk about basketball all day long, and the biggest thing 510 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 5: that I've noticed, whether it's millennials, Generation Z and now 511 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 5: it's I think it's Generation Alpha. The biggest problem the 512 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: kids are experiencing is not on the court social media. 513 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 5: First was the Internet, now it's social media. And the 514 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 5: one game I tell everyone not to play is the 515 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: comparison game. It's a never ending game. You can never 516 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: win the comparison game. And so many kids are playing 517 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 5: that comparison game. And it's a recipe for unhappiness. So 518 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 5: you don't even get to the trainer, you don't get 519 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 5: to the coach. You're just unhappy all the time because 520 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 5: you're constantly comparing other kids have versus what you don't have. 521 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 5: So if I can encourage everyone to help kids not 522 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 5: to play the comparison game, someone's always gonna be better 523 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 5: than you. You're gonna be better than somebody else. That's 524 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 5: the way life goes. But if you can keep them 525 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 5: focused on their own growth, their own development, they'll be 526 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 5: happier and they'll make faster progress. The comparison game is 527 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 5: the quickest way to fizzle out of anything, whether it's 528 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 5: somebody at work or somebody in sports. 529 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: I just want to get that in I well saying, coach, 530 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: I need to hear that. Hey man, we got to 531 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: move on. Make some love for coach P and Chris 532 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: Johnson for show. 533 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: Gentlemen. 534 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all. Gonna take a quick break and we'll 535 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: be back at it. We get to be in the 536 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: presence of a mongul philanthropist and mostly partly right now, 537 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: President p Man. We got the one, the only master 538 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: p the build. It makes a love Master p Man. 539 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: Thank you Man. 540 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: So I honored to be in your presidence tonight, big dog. 541 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: Before we start, can I say some p Yeah, Hey, DJ, 542 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: can you play break. 543 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: A Moll's something real quick for me? 544 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta send to bar exact like we ain't 545 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: got they know in my house. Oh, it's like a 546 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: national anthem. No no no, no, no no nothing, no no. 547 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 2: No, no no no, break the ball something, hold on. 548 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: They don got that. That's cool. Respect, respect, don't worry 549 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: about it. That's my mama. It's cool. 550 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 4: Oh there. 551 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: Now getting right here we go. Hey, you don't what 552 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 553 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: I had to do this for my sister, she said. 554 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: If you don't tell him how we feel about this, 555 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna never forget you. 556 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: What they say. 557 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: Well, you starting off. 558 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: Hustle ball against Captiller who I beat your neighborhood drug dealer? 559 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: You turned me out? 560 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: Seek me o me. 561 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 2: I'm all right right, my faull DJ, I just had 562 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: a shower. 563 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 6: I had a show. 564 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, the ball that's right now we locked 565 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: in up to. That's my song, man, that's my song 566 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: for sure. Listen, man, first things, farts. Congratulations on your 567 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: new role. You know what I'm saying, New Orleans holding 568 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: down to president of operations. Man, tell us what inspires 569 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: you to take that role? Man, You're so successful with 570 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: everything you've ever done. What made you go on this journey? 571 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: Well? 572 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 12: So black athletes, right, A lot of these people don't 573 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 12: understand us. 574 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: They don't understand our culture. 575 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 12: And for me to be a coaching to be president 576 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 12: of operations of a major university and coming from hip 577 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 12: hop exact history, and I'm just letting God lead me 578 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 12: on this journey, y'all where I come from. And this 579 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 12: this is big for our culture and our people because 580 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 12: we always talk about the negative things. 581 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: So think about it. 582 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 12: It's been twenty five years that I've been doing right, 583 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 12: and so I know that this is a way that 584 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 12: garden and I'm just taking this journey. 585 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 6: Most definitely, Tea. 586 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: Listen, you got a little bit of leneaship with Master 587 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: being here, don't even though I'll let him know about 588 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: it now. So remember when y'all went to ABCD camp, 589 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: you took Romeo and DeMar DeRozan. Well, I was happen 590 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: to be on the team with DeMar DeRozan, and I 591 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: was having some bright moments at that camp, and you 592 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: tapped me on my shoulder at one time and you 593 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: was like, hey man, you nice. He was like, but 594 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: it's a cat on your team right there. He was like, man, 595 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: trust him, he can play too. And you told me 596 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: drive the ball to the lane and throw it up. 597 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: I promised he'd go get it. We played the next game, 598 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: I threw it up to themar He wouldn't go get it, 599 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: and I ain't get the ball no more like it 600 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: became his team. It was my team for a minute. 601 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: The next thing you know, it was his team. 602 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: And so that's what I want to tell y'all. 603 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 12: Right, when you look at DeMar DeRozan, Lance Stevenson, I 604 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 12: coached all those guys, Jailer Sus, Big, Chad Holby, and 605 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 12: my thing is those guys come from real community, places, 606 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 12: a property, and I think a lot of these coaches 607 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 12: they give up on our kids. And that's why I 608 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 12: tell any kid in college right now, right, the reason 609 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 12: why you want to play for me at the University 610 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 12: of No organ is I want nothing but dogs. 611 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: No puppies allow. And I know real talent. 612 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 12: But I'm also going to help these kids get to 613 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 12: the next level, whether it's to the NBA or even 614 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 12: your education is more important because I call it, we 615 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 12: all should be seeking wisdom and not money. 616 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: Right, think about it. 617 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 12: A lot of us use wisdom and as avoid and stuff. No, 618 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 12: you don't avoid wisdom. Wisdom is advancing. So I'm going 619 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 12: to show the next generation how we advance. And so 620 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 12: when you look at me and say, man, I grew 621 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 12: up in the cality your products, just like you was 622 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 12: listening to break them off, right, So if you follow 623 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 12: me on that journey, then you're going to follow me 624 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 12: on this journey showing our people how to get our money, 625 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 12: how to take care of our families, how to build 626 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 12: generational will. And so that's the journey I'm on right now, 627 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 12: educating our peace people. And so y'all give y'allself a 628 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 12: round of applause in here, because everybody in here we 629 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 12: on that mission. We want to get better. Right, y'all 630 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 12: know that I was able to accomplish this. I mean 631 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 12: I lived in the projects with my grandparents and they 632 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 12: had twelve kids. Me and my brother made fourteen and 633 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 12: sixteen people in a three bedroom project. And so my 634 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 12: goals was to give my grandmother house. So that's what's 635 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 12: my motivation. One day, I want to give my grandmother house. 636 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 12: So you also have to have that why. And if 637 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 12: you had that why, you can be successful. 638 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: Most definitely with you, like you said, accomplish so many 639 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: things across the board, the discipline, the things, the foundation 640 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: and place have you can accomplished that. And listen, we 641 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: love basketball. We're going to talk about it. How was 642 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: that like making it to the NBA? 643 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: You know it was? It was something I think basketball 644 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: changed my life and saved my life. So I've been 645 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: with all the time, all my life. Right. 646 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 12: But the thing about it is right, people didn't understand 647 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 12: that because I had made it a music and so 648 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 12: people forgot that this was my first love. This is 649 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 12: where I came from. This what took me out to ghettom. 650 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 12: And so I've always was putting in the work. And 651 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 12: I showed my son, my son right now, I play 652 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 12: for University of Houston. They're the number two team in 653 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 12: the country, and I showed them hard work because I 654 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 12: know if you stay in the gym, it's like anything 655 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 12: in like this, the game alike, it's not just basketball. 656 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 12: So I just used that as this what took me 657 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 12: out the projects. But I also used that in my business. 658 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 12: So it teach you dedication, It teach you consistency because 659 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 12: it's all about consistency. 660 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: So think about it. 661 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 12: I wouldn't be here where I'm at if I didn't 662 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 12: put the work in. And so basketball gave me that. 663 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 12: And so you know, think about it. We all sitting 664 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 12: up here. But you're gonna get older. You can't play 665 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 12: basketball forever. You can't do what you used to do 666 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 12: on a basketball court. 667 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: You can't do that, right, hold on, you can't do that. 668 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: I know I was rolling with you, bro. 669 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 13: You can't do what you used to do back you 670 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 13: want tie him up because you won't play See that, 671 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 13: y'all see how you know that's what they do too. 672 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 13: That's why it's a mental thing, right you like to 673 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 13: start thinking that you could do what you used to 674 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 13: do back in the days. And you know, I mean, 675 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 13: look at Michael Jordan, and that's why that's why we're 676 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 13: having this conversation. Product always talent, So think about the 677 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 13: product gonna be around when we're not around. And so 678 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 13: when you look at it, the reason why Michael Jordan 679 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 13: is still so successful because of those shoes. Take nobody 680 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 13: you still wearing them now? Fact, and he ain't even 681 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 13: playing no more. And if you ask Michael Jordan that 682 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 13: same thing, he'll possit. 683 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: Man. 684 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: Now, I owe y'all can do it. You can't. It's 685 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: called for all the time. 686 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 4: Right. 687 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 3: I'm only thirty six, brother, that's old and basketball. 688 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 4: Repect. 689 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 3: Huh in basketball? When I was playing with what the honeys, yeah, 690 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 3: I mean, my music is what got me out. The 691 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: leader wasn't basketball. 692 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 12: So the GM was listening to the ice Cream Man, 693 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 12: and I'm like, man, what you where you get that room? 694 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: So I knew, y'all I was done. 695 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 12: So I walked in there and sit down. This older 696 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 12: white man by bass. He not here, no no more, 697 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 12: but he sent me down. He said, man, your music 698 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 12: is pure field damn. And it's a Bible built state, 699 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 12: and your music is pure of phild. He said, I 700 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 12: love your basketball. You tough because he seen me and 701 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 12: Anti Mason get into it. So he said, why you're 702 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 12: not scared of Anti Mason man? And the Mason was 703 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 12: a tough dude on the basketball court, like for real. 704 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 12: He let when I got to the gym, man that 705 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 12: Mason said, I'm from New York, give me the ball. 706 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 12: I'm like, damn, big dog, for I just got in there. 707 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 12: I just got in there, man, And so what I 708 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 12: like about it? 709 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: Right? 710 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 12: I had filed Anti Mason right, and he was like, man, rookie, 711 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 12: when I get in the back, I'm about to whoop you. 712 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 12: So I'm thinking to myself, damn them over like sixteen. 713 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 12: I was like, oh right, I got to get back 714 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 12: to that locker room first, right, So I got back 715 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 12: to the locker room first. 716 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 6: I was ready. 717 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 12: You said, nah, big dog, I like you. We end 718 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 12: up being friends. But in the GM couldn't understand that. 719 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 12: He said, to your music, pill Field, and you ain't 720 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 12: afraid of and the Mason. 721 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 3: Man. We decided to go another director. Man. 722 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 12: They changed the colds on the So think about it, 723 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 12: y'all right, By the time I left, I had left. 724 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 3: Something in there. My cold wasn't working no more. 725 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 12: I had to call a security So that's why I said, right, 726 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 12: we have to start thinking about being entrepreneurs, because you know, 727 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 12: we get locked out of situations when it's when it's 728 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 12: over for us. And UH had nothing to do with basketball. 729 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 12: I was going hard every night. I mean, they had 730 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 12: some great players on that team. BJ Armstrong to tell me, 731 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 12: slow down, you're asking this story when you see them, 732 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 12: and I was. 733 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 3: I was out running everybody. B Jones said, Man, we 734 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 3: got eighty two games while you're running so fast. I 735 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 3: was so used to running from the police. This wasn't 736 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 3: nothing for me. This was nothing. I'm and I'm thinking, man, 737 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: I'm on this team. 738 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: Y'all ever played one on one at practice? 739 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: I guess who? 740 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 2: Like? 741 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: I'm just anybody like we always used to play ones 742 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: that practice. Anybody play one? 743 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 4: And what everybody? 744 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 3: Who you be? 745 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 4: Man? 746 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: Come on, dog, I was you acting like I am 747 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 3: from the project. I just told you I grew up 748 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: in the project with people. 749 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. You played bj On, you beat everybody. 750 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: Step Curry that. 751 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: His dad was on the teah about the ones with 752 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: dal turn up. 753 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah he was. 754 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: He was, man, you know what, you had to file 755 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: deal back in the way. I know. 756 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 12: That's why steps so good too. When he touched the bottle, 757 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 12: I'm slapping. 758 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 3: Shoot too good? He shoot too good. 759 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: Now you can shoot though. I ain't gonna lie you 760 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: guys jump. I've been watching you, man. I learned how 761 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: to shoot in the project with no lights. 762 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 2: Damn. 763 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: Imagine when the lights come on. I'm like, man, look 764 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: at that light right here here. I ain't gonna get 765 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: no shooting contest with you. I've seen you too. Yeah, 766 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: but it's definitely. One thing I like about you is 767 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: that everything is always based on family. And like we 768 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: already talked about this, were in the age when we 769 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: saw them shows on TV. You know what I'm saying. 770 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: Everybody remember these shows on Nikkoloine. You remember the movies 771 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: Uncle Pee, come on tap In. I don't know, we're 772 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: too old, but I remember that. The dope part about it. 773 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: You have the Martin Rosen. You have to bring the gens. 774 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: They get to see that type of life as an influence. 775 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: What's that being able to pull your family up as 776 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: you excel as well? 777 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 778 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 12: No, I mean I'm greatful and thankful. I just talked 779 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 12: to Brandon Jennis the other day and I was like, Brandon, 780 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 12: what what made you make it? He said, coach pe 781 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 12: because I am. I'm like, and I'm coach Pete for real, right, 782 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 12: I start thinking, because you know it don't hit you 783 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 12: till you get older. And he was like, you know 784 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 12: you you believed in me when nobody didn't believe in me, 785 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 12: and then you showed me stuff because you already had 786 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 12: the mansions, you had the nice cars, all this stuff. 787 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 12: He said, that made me go harder. And so I 788 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 12: do the same thing with my family, with my kids. 789 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 12: Right So I didn't give my son. He's one of 790 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 12: the top players in cal he's the number one player 791 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 12: in California, and he's a freshman at Houston right now. 792 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 12: He didn't get a car till he got to Houston. 793 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 12: So I start realizing, right that you got to start 794 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 12: make people, making people work for what they want. And 795 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 12: I think with this generation, we give these kids everything 796 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 12: they want, even if you look at it right now, 797 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 12: we got to stop that and you just got to 798 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 12: start being real parents and make them appreciate everything that 799 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 12: you give me. 800 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 6: I said, bar for sure, listen where do you see? 801 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 802 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 3: So oh for us in New Orleans, what I see right? 803 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people talk about what 804 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: went on before I got there. I just got there. 805 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 12: So we're gonna be way better than I mean we 806 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 12: was last year. But I'm giving kids second chances that 807 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 12: I know that deserve it, that then changed their lives. 808 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 12: Thinking about it, like, none of us are perfect. All 809 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 12: of us then did something that we could hide from 810 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 12: or go and act like or whatever. But think about it, 811 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 12: how do you get to the league if nobody really 812 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 12: pulled you to the side and believe in you. So 813 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 12: I told you I coached Lance Stevenson right, So y'all 814 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 12: know Lance Stevenson out. 815 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 3: Here in New York. He was wilding out at. 816 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 12: First, and so I was able to see the good 817 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 12: in him and showed him the value like man, slow down, 818 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 12: and me and his dad built a good relationship. So 819 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 12: it's also what I'm gonna do is build relationships with 820 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 12: these parents. At the same time, it's all about holding accountability. 821 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 12: But my thing is asking them what do they really 822 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 12: want out of this? So you got to know what 823 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 12: you want? 824 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 3: Do you really want? 825 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 12: Because I had to change my parents couldn't change me. 826 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 12: You know, once you get on that school campus, you 827 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 12: could go wild out, sir, And I had to start 828 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 12: policing myself. I had to start saying that I want 829 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 12: somebody of life. And so I'm gonna show these kids 830 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 12: everything that I've been through. I got a brother dead, 831 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 12: I got a brother incarcerated, right, so it's nothing you 832 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 12: can fool me with. But I got real love. These 833 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 12: kids are part of my family. And so when you 834 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 12: use that word family, that we're gonna be able to 835 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 12: know each other even after life, after basketball and still 836 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 12: keeping those relationships. How many of these other coaches do 837 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 12: that with us, because once it's over, they don't care 838 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 12: about us no more think about it. And that's what 839 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 12: I'm gonna be able to give the kids that come 840 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 12: into my program. Like I mean, I'm looking out here, 841 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 12: I want some of the top kids in New York. 842 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 12: Were able to give them the same nil deals that 843 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 12: we could that they could get from any other universe. 844 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 12: And so I think that's gonna be the good thing 845 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 12: about it. But I want them to know this is 846 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 12: about getting the education, because once that nil money run out, 847 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 12: what you're gonna do. So I'm gonna teach them how 848 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,959 Speaker 12: to invest some of that money, you know, and don't 849 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 12: just take this money in your personal name. They don't 850 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 12: teach you our activites that so go get your LLC, 851 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 12: Go get you an incorporate a business, so now you 852 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 12: could write some of that off instead of just taking 853 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 12: that money. Even though we call it name and likeness, 854 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 12: you know, but we're saying, now take this money and 855 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 12: investors in something. So when them four years come, you 856 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 12: got your money. The triple double quatjup. 857 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: And so they're not gonna teach us that just won't 858 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: give us the money and hopefully that if we don't 859 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: win for them, then we go back to the hood. 860 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 3: And I want to change that most definitely. 861 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, clap it up. That was the bar right 862 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: there for surest. 863 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 12: Think about to write everybody up here, how many coaches 864 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 12: still keep in touch with you, Let's be honest, like 865 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 12: me and all my players were still in contact. 866 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see. 867 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: I definitely talked to them about cause I talked to 868 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: I talked to Mike Blueholt. That's the NBA though like 869 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: college and high school my AU coach, I still talk 870 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: to him. 871 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 2: But other than that college now. 872 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 12: See, to think about it, because all they doing is 873 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 12: bring one player in then once it's over. 874 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 3: They looking for the next best player. 875 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: Yes the fact, but we see like, because you you 876 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: coach a bunch of NBA players, you man, you one 877 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: of the most influential people ever. When we see a 878 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: lot of people at New Orleans like kind of like 879 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: Coach Prime did in Colorado. 880 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 3: Man, let me tell y'all something. 881 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 12: I model what I'm doing after Coach Prime because he 882 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 12: the go yes sir, and uh, to be able to 883 00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 12: celebrate a black man that did something historical. Let me 884 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 12: know that I could do it in basketball what he's 885 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 12: done in football. And so you're gonna see, you're gonna 886 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 12: see everybody at our games, but you're gonna you're gonna 887 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 12: get a great game because these the players that I 888 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 12: bring in there, the goal is to get them to 889 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 12: the NBA and to create more testimonies and so more 890 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 12: players that we get into the NBA, that's when we 891 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 12: get more students to the to the university and uh, 892 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 12: we bring enrollment up. 893 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 3: And so that's the page I'm on. 894 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 12: Like, so the basketball part is one thing, but for me, 895 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 12: it's the education and that's that's about changing lives and 896 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 12: saving lives. 897 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 3: I feel like this is my most important job, to 898 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 3: be a server. 899 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 12: So yeah, I got to shout out Coach prime Man 900 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 12: because he paid the way and I'm just about to 901 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 12: kick the dough down, especially coming from hip hop. Think 902 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 12: about you think they want to give me this job 903 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 12: coming from hip hop? 904 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 2: Nah? 905 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 12: So that means I had to be doing right a 906 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 12: long time for sure, because they put me under the 907 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 12: microscope right like, and it's hard to do. So I 908 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 12: had to have a degree, I had to have a 909 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 12: good record. So all these things that I want to 910 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 12: show our culture that we could leave the past behind 911 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 12: and we could grow up and get better, they do it. 912 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 12: They got tattoos under their suits. They done been in 913 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 12: trouble before, let's be honest. But they give a second 914 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 12: chance at changing their lives. That's why I said, I'm 915 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 12: looking for dogs. I'm looking for players that they done 916 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 12: gave up on, and we're gonna have We're gonna have 917 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 12: an opportunity if you really about changing growth. And I'm 918 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 12: gonna show them these diamonds and the ruffs that they 919 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 12: forgot about. Like all they needed was a chance, and 920 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 12: that's all I need. I'm gonna live in testimony, that 921 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 12: if you put your trust in faith and go, you 922 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 12: could actually go to. 923 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:39,959 Speaker 3: The next level. 924 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 6: Most definitely make some letters. 925 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 3: To that with a bar there. 926 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: Now, I gotta ask, obviously, you in in many markets 927 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: and dominated just about everything. 928 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,439 Speaker 2: You did get into the snack world. 929 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: We all love rap snacks, man, how is that transition 930 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: going from rap music to making chips? 931 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 12: You know what, nobody believed in rap snack me and 932 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 12: used to go to all these different places and tell 933 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 12: people about it. But it's all about the flavor and 934 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 12: think about it. We understand what flavor is and our 935 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 12: people we eat chips. You know, we got the hunting buns. Now, 936 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 12: we've been eating this stuff a long time, but we 937 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 12: don't think that we can create this stuff. So there's 938 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 12: been a journey for over twenty five years. I know 939 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 12: a lot of people think that it's a success story overnight. 940 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 12: It took us twenty five years. So how many people 941 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 12: willing to be in business that long? In the staying business, 942 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 12: the sustainability, So when nobody believed that you could put 943 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 12: all this that looked like us on packages and bags, 944 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 12: we did and that's what changed the game. 945 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 6: Both definitely, you like. 946 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: My community people, I grew up around you like a superhero. 947 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: You did everything. You played basketball in the NBA, you ride, 948 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: you act, everything that a black person wanted to do. 949 00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 3: You did. 950 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 6: I had that straight up. 951 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: We all dream of be a TV movie who, right, Well, 952 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: what's that feeling like? Like you kind of just when 953 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: you can't feel like you don't you don't You probably 954 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: don't feel that way. We like, Bro, you an icon 955 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: of us, So it's a little different for us how 956 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: that feel for you. 957 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 3: So to be honest, y'all, I'm more. 958 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 12: Thankful like it don't really, it don't really touch me 959 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 12: like that because I know where I come from, and 960 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 12: I know that I had a lot of close calls 961 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 12: in life, and if God didn't spare my life, I 962 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 12: wouldn't be here with y'all right now. And I'm all 963 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 12: about helping our community in our culture, you know me 964 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 12: and one of my guys was laughing the other day, right. So, 965 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 12: in California got a program called Urban Born and Nipsey 966 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 12: Hustle was in our program in the eighth grade. And 967 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 12: so it's all about helping people will look like us, 968 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 12: knowing that you are important. So I'm looking at life 969 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 12: thinking God like man, you spared my life because I 970 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 12: had a lot of close calls, and I'm thankful and 971 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 12: grateful that I could be here with y'all and show 972 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 12: y'all that we can change and grow. 973 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 3: Because a lot of people they think that we gotta 974 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 3: be tough, we gotta be real. 975 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 5: What is that. 976 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 12: I never wanted to be tough in all this. I've 977 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 12: always just wanted to survive. I want to be better. 978 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 12: And I tell people all the time that. 979 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 3: We invest. 980 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 12: Five, ten twenty of the life in going to prison. 981 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 12: Why can't we invest four years to go to college 982 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 12: or to create a business or brand. And so I'm 983 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 12: a living testimony that if you do that, then you 984 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 12: can live a legit life. Because think about it, if 985 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 12: we do all this negative stuff. And so when I 986 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 12: start making these movies, I'll invest my own money into it. 987 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 3: I want to show us that if you believe in yourself, put. 988 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 12: Your money into what you believe in, because you're going 989 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 12: to get the make a piece of the pie. But 990 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 12: when you running around and you want to be pampered, 991 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 12: that mean you don't want to put the work in. 992 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 12: So all those things that you talk about, what I've done, 993 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 12: I never been pampered I've always get out and put 994 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 12: the work in and then I get my bigger piece 995 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 12: of the pie because I made the biggest investment in myself. 996 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 12: And so when you look in that mirror, I want 997 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 12: you try to look in that mirror and say, what 998 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 12: am I doing? How can I get to the next level? 999 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 12: Am I spending my twenty four hours wisely? Think about 1000 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 12: because most of us turning up. If you turning up 1001 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 12: twenty four hours, then you're not gonna beat me. Not 1002 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 12: gonna beat me at nothing I'm doing. And I think 1003 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 12: that that's what's my motivation is. And I know a 1004 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 12: lot of people say, pe, you did this, this and this, 1005 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 12: But I love what I'm doing, So I don't see 1006 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 12: it as like, oh, you're doing all these different things. 1007 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 3: No, they all go together. 1008 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 12: Like think about like you say, every athlete in the hood, 1009 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 12: they love music, they love movies, they gonna love products. 1010 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 3: And all these different things. And I just like this, 1011 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 3: that's what we do anyway. 1012 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 12: And I just said that, you know, when I stopped 1013 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 12: saying that I wanted to be a boss and I 1014 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 12: wanted to be a leader. It's two different things. Because 1015 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 12: a boss just he controlled everything. Being a leader, you're 1016 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 12: gonna create more leaders. And so when I got to 1017 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 12: that point in my life, I feel like that's when 1018 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 12: God spared my life and saved my life. Say hey, 1019 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 12: you know, you can lead the people and the ones 1020 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 12: that want to listen, because think about where we come from, 1021 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 12: a lot of us don't want to listen. 1022 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 3: That's why I told you I got a brother. 1023 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 12: Then I got a brother incarcerated, because that's all about 1024 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 12: that one word listening. 1025 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 3: So you got to be able to listen. 1026 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: You know. 1027 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 3: They say a wise man learned, but a fool never will. 1028 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 12: And I learned from not only other people mistakes, but 1029 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 12: I also look at my life and say, Okay, if 1030 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 12: I go that way, I'm gonna be good. 1031 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 3: But if I go this way with all my homeboys 1032 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: and I'm going to prison. 1033 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 12: I stopped getting in the car and wanting to go 1034 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 12: to jail with my homeboys and saying, man, look, I'm 1035 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 12: investing my education. 1036 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 3: I think that was the only thing that changed my life. 1037 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 3: And that's why I keep. 1038 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 12: Telling y'all, wisdom is the most important thing that we 1039 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 12: could have. Just thinking about most of us to pray 1040 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 12: for money, man, Lord, I need to pay my bills. 1041 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 12: Help me, No man, if you get the wisdom, the 1042 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 12: money gonna come. And that's what's been happening for me 1043 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,479 Speaker 12: my whole life. 1044 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: And one thing I want to applause you on getting 1045 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: back to the music. Obviously you are success in it, 1046 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: but the way that you ran your record label needs 1047 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: to be applauded. If you look everywhere from the marketing aspect, 1048 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: and we talked about some of the best people to 1049 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: market your names needs to be on that list. Everybody 1050 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: here know a no limit cover when you see it, 1051 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: marketing genius. 1052 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 2: The quality you know, tap in. The quality was. 1053 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: There, The marketing was there, and you was a well 1054 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: oiled machine. You look at so many people who have 1055 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: so many sad stories of music. You was an independent 1056 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: I won't like you talk about the boss of leader, 1057 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: but you was a real boss in the music industry. 1058 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: When you came to that realization, what was like to say, 1059 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: all right, I see where everybody else is, but I'm 1060 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,439 Speaker 1: doing this way different and way better. 1061 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1062 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 12: So when I first got into music business, you know, 1063 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 12: every business I created, I find a problem. 1064 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 3: So I found the problem. 1065 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,760 Speaker 12: None of us was making money in the music industry, 1066 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 12: and a lot of us were superstars. We was on 1067 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 12: all these billboards. We was on all these records, but 1068 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 12: we wasn't making no real money. And when you look 1069 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 12: at the deals, was like us making seven percent, twelve percent. 1070 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 12: The biggest percentage in music was Michael Jackson. He was 1071 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 12: making twenty two percent of record and I said, I 1072 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 12: need to change that. 1073 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 4: And so. 1074 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 3: And then I started making my own covers. I came 1075 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 3: to New York. So when I first did about it 1076 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 3: bout it, I came to New York, I went through 1077 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 3: every hood out here, and people was like, man, that's 1078 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 3: you on that post. I said, nah, man, I'm from 1079 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 3: New Orleans. 1080 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,439 Speaker 6: We all look alike. 1081 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 12: But I came out here y'all and put my own 1082 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 12: posters up because think about it. You know, back then 1083 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 12: you will pay somebody to put your stuff, but you 1084 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 12: we don't have social media back then, they might throw 1085 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 12: it in the garbage cab. 1086 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 3: I came up. I was my own street team. 1087 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 12: And so when people start seeing and then when the girls, 1088 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 12: you know, I sounded different. So I got this big 1089 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 12: dunky gold chained on right, and the girls, I'll be talking, Yeah, 1090 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 12: what's up baby, how you doing. She's like, I like 1091 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 12: the way you talk. I'm gonna listen to your music 1092 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 12: because nobody knew who I was. And and just being 1093 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 12: able to communicate and network with the people people that 1094 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 12: look like because even though I sounded different and and 1095 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 12: but New York really gravitated to me. 1096 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 3: That's when I knew. 1097 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 12: I was like, man, I think I'm gonna make it 1098 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 12: in this business because I come all the way from 1099 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 12: the South and they started messing with about it, about it, 1100 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 12: and uh and and I and I tell the DJs 1101 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 12: and I tell the people in the community out here. 1102 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 12: I appreciate that because this was the first spot that 1103 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 12: really outside where I came from, because I was in 1104 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 12: the Bay Area and I was in the Orleans. But 1105 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 12: to actually see some a whole different culture, because you know, 1106 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 12: music started him. So I felt like I needed to 1107 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 12: come here, go in these clubs and test the waters. 1108 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 3: How can I get New York to like my music? 1109 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 12: And when I got New York to like my music, 1110 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 12: I mean the rest was history because they jumped around 1111 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 12: in the clubs, and you know, that's what my music was. 1112 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 12: It was like, you know, it was all like that 1113 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 12: military jump around, get you up and listen party. And 1114 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 12: so now I appreciate you guys. I just always wanted 1115 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 12: to say thank you New York for believing in me. 1116 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: We go. 1117 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 12: And I want to tell y'all, right, so I know 1118 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 12: y'all see me in the music side of the business 1119 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 12: making music, but as a young person, I also got 1120 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 12: into investing into other artists, and so that's when I 1121 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 12: took on doing concerts and shows. I was able to 1122 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 12: do the fifty cent first tour and invest into other artists, 1123 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,800 Speaker 12: and so I think that was the part that started 1124 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 12: taking my business to the next level. Then I Snoop 1125 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 12: Dogg and you know, all these incredible artists that I 1126 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 12: was able to sign and help their careers and jumpstart 1127 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 12: their careers, and it's been a blessing man. 1128 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 3: Because I feel like when you help other people get 1129 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 3: to where you're go and go to keep blessing you 1130 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 3: most definitely. 1131 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,399 Speaker 1: Now you talk about being able to get Snoop Dogg, 1132 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: is there an artist that you almost had as you 1133 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: wish you got. 1134 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 3: I think. 1135 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 12: Indy I Re I didn't know like that type of music, 1136 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 12: so she used to come to my house and sing 1137 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 12: and I was just like, I just don't want to 1138 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 12: mess up your career. And uh, I think that was 1139 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 12: the one that got away that I just could have 1140 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 12: just I didn't know, because y'all know that what I'm saying. 1141 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 12: That's why I say education is so important. Right, I'm 1142 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 12: only into the hip hop and I'm just like, man, 1143 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 12: I got this diamond in a roof right here, and 1144 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 12: I wanted to I'm like. 1145 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 3: How much you need to do this? But I didn't 1146 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 3: know personally how to do like an R and B tour. 1147 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 12: So I told her that, and I think that was 1148 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 12: That's probably the one artist that I feel like that 1149 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 12: I really couldn't. 1150 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: Let me tell you right now, if you got any 1151 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: R on a no lipit cover, shit would have been crazy. 1152 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 2: I am not my here, but. 1153 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 12: That's what I'm But that's what I'm saying about being 1154 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 12: about being since it I truly didn't know what to do, 1155 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 12: but like, I've never done that type of music, and 1156 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 12: so I think that God has blessed her too on 1157 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 12: her journey because I feel like I probably would have 1158 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 12: stopped her. 1159 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's real. 1160 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: That's definitely real, because I would never thought India I 1161 00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: would be. 1162 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was to that. 1163 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: That kind of threw me off, man, But that's how 1164 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: influential you being. I mean, people just want to be 1165 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: around you. Like we said, I know the show about 1166 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: the end or whatever, but we just really appreciate you 1167 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: even taking time to sit with us. 1168 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 3: I won't to tell y'all I'm not finished. 1169 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 12: So if you follow me on my music journey, follow 1170 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 12: me on this journey with the University of New Orleans, 1171 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 12: changing lives, saving lives, helping our future athletes and student 1172 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 12: at least. 1173 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 3: Get to where they need to go at because we 1174 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 3: give up. 1175 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 12: On us, and I'm not gonna give up on us. 1176 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 12: I'm gonna give our culture the blueprint. And I want 1177 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 12: y'all to know that. Everybody think they got a lot 1178 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 12: of time, but Junior Bridgeman played basketball. He died the 1179 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 12: other day, right me and him to sit down and 1180 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 12: talk about all the things that we was gonna do. 1181 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 12: I want us not to sit down and do that. 1182 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 12: I want us to move, make moves. Don't wait till 1183 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 12: it's too late. And if you have an idea, bring 1184 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 12: it to light, because the most treasures are in the 1185 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 12: grade and we got to stop that because we keep 1186 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 12: thinking we got so much time, but use. 1187 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 3: Our time wisely. Just start now. 1188 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 12: Whatever ideas you have, whatever business you want to start, 1189 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 12: go for it and create it and do it and 1190 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 12: and there's no limit from that. 1191 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 3: I did it. You could do it, most definitely. 1192 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 2: Man, it's make some lord to master fee one time 1193 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 2: for the one time. 1194 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1195 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: The volume