1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco, and now 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Today is Tuesday, March eighteenth, twenty twenty five, and we 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: are thirty three days away from the NFL Draft in 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show presented by 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: Miller Light, the only beer of the Cowboys. It is 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: Miller Tome and we are closing in quickly on the 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: final month until the NFL Draft. We've got Tommy Yarish, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Brian brought us, Fox Lombardi, Bobby Belt with Chris Beam 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: in the back of Kyle Yeomans. Glad you are with us, 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, it's getting close to that time. We're gonna 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: have our one month out mocked draft on Thursday, which 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm excited about, where we'll go around the table and 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: start picking up different guys guy and try and see 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: how this first round could possibly play out. We'll go 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: through that whole scenario on Thursday, but today it's really 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: a lot of really the nerves, trying to get those 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: out of the way. Brian try and see who we 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: could be wrong on and try and hit that. 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot of guys you could be wrong 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: on this draft, in this draft specific. Yeah, I mean yeah, 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: this is to me when you and really every draft, 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: I mean, we've I've had discussions. Ear Old Draft Show 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: colleague Jeff Kavanaugh asked me a question like on Twitter today, 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: what guy, what guys would you have that you don't 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: think are gonna bust? You know, give me, give me, 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: give me four or five guys that you don't think 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: are going to bust, you know, and and and and 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: the target range of where the Cowboys are picking at twelve. 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: I thought that was a pretty interesting exercise. I think 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: that's the that's the pressure that you face. I was 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: on with Eric giafalow Love at The Star this morning. 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: We were talking about, you know, we were talking about listen, 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: you could have thoughts about the running backs in this draft. 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: You could, you could you could tell me like, hey, 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense to take a running back like 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: gent at twelve. It doesn't make sense. It's not it's 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: it's it's not the economical use of your draft picks. 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 3: It's sure, damn is an economical use of your draft pick. 42 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: If you turn around and pick a bust at at 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: twelve because you didn't take genty, you know what I'm saying. 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: You can talk about economics of draft picks and all that, 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: cowboys haven't had really good success. We'll see what happens 46 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: with Mazie, We'll see what happens with Tyler Geiden. But 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: to where they've drafted the standards before, it's they've those 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: two picks of have some question marks. And if you 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: don't want to take a running back, if you don't 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: want to take an Ashton Genty because of economics, you know, 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: because you feel like that maybe oh well you know, A, 52 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's not an economical thing. And you 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: pick one of these other players, that's a bust. That's 54 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: that's stuff that's going on right now in these war 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: rooms and you're setting these boards. You're trying your damnedest 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: to make sure like who the guys are not going 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: to bust, especially in that first round. That that's the 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: thing that I think, that's the thing. And there's plenty 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: of guys up there that can scare the hell out 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: of you if you really break it down looking. 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: At your board, why Bran like, like, why is it 62 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: so many, so many players this year that it seems like, oh, well, 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: I bet if he was a guard his film would 64 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 4: be better. Oh well, he got a new coach, so 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: it looks a little weird this year. You should go 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: back to this twenty twenty three to oh, his dog died, 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: that's why he played bad. 68 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: That Yah. 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 5: You know, we've been you know, we we're. 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: Starting to hear a lot of excuses and it's not 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: so much excuses. Is like we're hearing about Walker from Kentucky. 72 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: We mentioned him with the back stuff and all that, 73 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: and you're like, well, is that the reason why he 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: played bad? Everybody the guys that were at a certain 75 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: level when we first started this process that are now 76 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: kind of falling, and everybody's like, well, oh well this 77 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: is why did you check this? Tommy? Did you check this? 78 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: Fodge? 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: Oh did you know this? You know Colin? 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: Somebody said in my comments, Brand, well, Michael Williams not 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: a good pass rusher right now because Georgie didn't ask 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: him the pass rush very much. 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 5: What does that mean? What that mean? Tayle? 84 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 6: What that means? 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: Because I mean I've seen three, three or four people 86 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: tell me that, and yeah, I understand I'm doing this crusade. 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: You know, when I don't like a player, I loudly, 88 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: you know, don't like a player so so so people 89 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: think that I'm hating or something. Well, watch the coach 90 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: didn't ask in the past us very much what the 91 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: hell he doing on pass rush downs? You know, there's 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: just a lot of guys with questions and this could 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: be a draft that'll get you fired or somebody look 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: at you like a like a Jeanis. We been talking 95 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: about the running back Gordon right, like why was he 96 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: so fantastic? 97 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: At one point Oklahoma. 98 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: State Donovan Edwards from from Michigan, Right, once upon a time, 99 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: we were looking at him like he was going to 100 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: be a guy. What happened Isaiah Bond? What happened? How 101 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: these guys kind of fall down this board? And me 102 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: and Brown will make the joke, Oh, this type of 103 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: dude you get in the fifth round, he'll save your job. 104 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 4: Oh they'll be a there'll be an all pro guy 105 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: you know in you know, two or three years. 106 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 5: So like, why is this so weird? 107 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 7: Like do you think on Michael Williams And I don't 108 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 7: want to get you going on a total tangent, but 109 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 7: on my specifically in terms of that he wasn't asked 110 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 7: to pass rush a lot, and that's it. Would you 111 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 7: at least agree like what he's going to be asked 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 7: to do at the NFL level will probably not match 113 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 7: what he was asked to do at Georgia. He's not 114 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 7: gonna be asked I don't think by a lot of 115 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 7: teams to two gap as frequently as he was at Georgia. 116 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: All we have is the film, right, That's just, that's just, 117 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: that's just where we are. You talk to people I 118 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: don't really talking about, So all I have is Okay, 119 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 4: let me watch James Pierce. Then let me watch Mike 120 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: Hail Williams. I like what Pierce looks like more, or 121 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: let me watch Princely, let me watch Donovan. I watched 122 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: Baron Surrell, Tommy, they love it. Get on your abatch 123 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 4: your textas bar Surrell run game past game, whatever he's doing. 124 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: I like what it looks like he's doing on film. 125 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: He doesn't run down the mill of people, Michael run 126 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: down the mill of people. But you know what I'm saying, 127 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: and I can only imagine that when you get to 128 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: the league that goes up a bit because you're running 129 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: down the middle of better guards and better tackles. Now, 130 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 4: so that's what I'm saying when I'm watching the film, 131 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: I don't I don't project very well. Just like last year, right, 132 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: Tyler Guiden, you know we talk about you know, Oh 133 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: he leans a little bit, gets over his skates, his 134 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: hands aren't in the right place. I saw a lot 135 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: of tab with the head their hands in the right place, 136 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 4: a bunch and those dudes fared better. 137 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 5: Now. 138 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: Could I be wrong in three years about Michael Willis 139 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 4: And I'd be wrong in three years about Tyler Guidon 140 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: for sure. But we talked about twelve overall this year. 141 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: You need people this year and next year, not in 142 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: three years. 143 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 7: If I told you he's If I told you he 144 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 7: ends up being Gregory Rousseau. Are you comfortable with that? 145 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 7: Or do you want more out of Pick twelve? 146 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: I like Russou, but I want more out of Peaks. 147 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: I don't know. 148 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 7: This was a community that hated Rousseau when he was 149 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 7: coming out, like in Jeneral, Like I was not a 150 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 7: big Russou fan. 151 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: I mean neither, but like. 152 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 7: I mean to me, it's you wouldn't you think when 153 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 7: you think of rushing to the chest and traits and 154 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 7: everything like that, I think of in recent history Rousseau 155 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 7: and then probably on the back end of that of 156 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 7: bus potential to be Marcus Davenport. Sure Davenport used to 157 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 7: have the same issue rush into the chest and and 158 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 7: you know didn't have all the tools put together right away. 159 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 7: So like, yeah, that could be a lower end of 160 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 7: what Michael Williams would be would be on the back 161 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 7: side of that, some of the Davenport struggles. 162 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: You're not wrong. But for every Greg Russo is ten, 163 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: it's ten Cleveland Farrells that we just you know what 164 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 4: I'm saying, So it's twelve overall. You had to lose 165 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: games to get here. You had to be a terrible 166 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: football team to get here. 167 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 5: Like Brian saman I don't want to roll the dice. 168 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to overthink, well, Ashton Genty's a running back, 169 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: but I can cut on any game, you know how 170 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: well MIKEL Williams has two good Texas games, but you 171 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: know it's weird everywhere else. It don't matter what game 172 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: you put on for Ashton Genty, Boise State versus. 173 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: Anybody's running over anyone, anybody. 174 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: I just want the anybody guy Mike Green looks fantastic 175 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: versus anybody. 176 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 5: I just want anybody. 177 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: Let's look like, if you're talking about any guy anytime, anywhere, 178 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: any place, any team, who's those guys, Like, what is 179 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: the short list of those guys at twelve? Because that's 180 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: who we need to be looking at. 181 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: Give me McMillan. He jumps over everybody, even the first 182 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: or third overall pick. 183 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: Where he's sliding down mock draft. 184 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 5: That's a lie. I won't believe it. 185 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: McMillan jents he's one of those guys for me, everybody 186 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: and gotta believe this. I think Simmons from Ohio State 187 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: to the left Tack, I think he's one of those guys. 188 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 4: And I'm I'm on a short list of guys also 189 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: me and Tommy. Matthew Gold is one of those guys 190 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: for me. Think so, Matthew Gold is one of those 191 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: guys for me. 192 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: I felt Barron in there. I mean the four, the 193 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: four that the four that I asked that and Jeff 194 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: asked me the question. I answered Simmons genty and then 195 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: I went Baron Abuca and that that's the that's the 196 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: guys that I went the non bus guys. Those are 197 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: the four that I went with. 198 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: Buka is interesting because it goes back to that ceiling 199 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: floor conversation that we love to talk about on the show, 200 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: and I love I think he's built, He's he had 201 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: a floor at Ohio State that cannot be questioned. He 202 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: was never really the guy at Ohio State, but he 203 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: did everything else perfectly along the way, and he's got 204 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: good tape, he's got good production. He did it with 205 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: multiple quarterbacks, he did it in multiple seasons, and he 206 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: was always kind of that floor guy that you can 207 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: rely on. So I'm in so with you saying that 208 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: you would still be fine taking a Bouka out of 209 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State at twelve. Yeah, just because he is a 210 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: safe selection. 211 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: I think. I don't think he's going to bustin. I 212 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: think he is going to come into the league and 213 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: I think he's going to play at a very very 214 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: high level. And I think whoever drafts him is going 215 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: to be super happy they did because he he knows 216 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: how to be a great teammate. He knows how to 217 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: play second Phil if he has to. I think he's 218 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: got ability with trades where he could be the first 219 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: wide receiver for your team, and the fact that I 220 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: don't think the games are too big for him, and 221 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: I love him. I love that about him. 222 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: You didn't say McMillan out of Arizona. I'm interested. Is 223 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: there something there that you're looking at? 224 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: You know there's a possibility with him? I mean, I'm 225 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: going to I have him very, very high. He's one 226 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: of those guys that I don't think will I don't 227 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: think I would come off of I do think there's 228 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: legitimate There's the things that you have to be questioned about. 229 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 3: Is is he legitimately a four or five to four 230 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: guy speed wise? I think I think he's closer to 231 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: four or five one, because if somebody got him at four, 232 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: four eight and somebody got him at four or five four, 233 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: that's you split those times. That's right around four, five one, 234 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: four five two. 235 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 4: Do you care? Like if he's a four or five guy? 236 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: Do you do you really care? I don't. 237 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: I don't, But I just think if you asked me 238 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: five guys, I think I would have him as number five. 239 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: I picked four that four guys. I think he would 240 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: be number five on my on my list? 241 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 4: Is that a recent like a like a recent change 242 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: for you because you used to be ten toes down McMillan, guy, Like, 243 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 4: I just don't want you waffling a little bit. 244 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 5: Have you kind of died down on him a little bit? 245 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: No, I just know. 246 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, those those are the four 247 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: guys that I think that absolutely will not bust. Okay, 248 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: that's it. I mean, I you know, I mean. And 249 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: then he said if he said five guys, I you know, 250 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: he says, give me, give me guys, give me four guys. 251 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: That I so. I I just to me, I feel 252 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: like Baron, like I said, I feel like Simmons is 253 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: the top one. Gent d uh uh Baron Abuka for 254 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: my for my four guys. 255 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 6: Let me this brunt. You were talking earlier about how 256 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 6: the past couple of years these first round picks haven't 257 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 6: hit for Dallas yet. Do you think that puts just 258 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 6: because you've been in those rooms before, do you think 259 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 6: that puts any pressure on this group to maybe opt 260 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 6: for the safer pick that might not be as high 261 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 6: on their boards, or do you feel like they could 262 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 6: still go for that higher player who you still maybe 263 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 6: have some lingering questions about. And you're not as sure 264 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 6: as a as a surefire guy. I hope that makes sense. 265 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think it through that that just take 266 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: the safe pick at twelve and not. 267 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 2: So so so let me let me give me a 268 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: guy twelve. You're a picture of this. 269 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 6: So you're talking about Abuka. Yeah, so you've got a 270 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 6: Buka at twelve. But if maybe Matthew Golden is higher 271 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 6: on their board, but there's you know, does he run 272 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 6: the routes as well as as he can he develop 273 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 6: into a better route runner. Do you take a chance 274 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 6: on Golden just because the traits that he's got, or 275 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 6: do you look at a Buka and say, Okay, this 276 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 6: guy we need a wide receiver to. This guy's been 277 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 6: a bona fide wide receiver to at Ohio State his 278 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 6: entire career. 279 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm taking a Buka there. Okay, yeah, I'm taking a 280 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: booka there. I just feel like to me that overall, 281 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: I could say that the body of work for him, 282 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: I've seen it his whole entire career at Ohio State. Yeah, 283 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: the Golden I'm you know, Houston to hear. I think 284 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: Golden's a hell of a player, don't get me wrong. 285 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to I'm not trying to think 286 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: anything less of Golden or any of these other guys 287 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: or like you know, we're gonna about Mikel Williams, We're 288 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: gonna talk about will Johnson, those kind of guys. But 289 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: I just to me, I just think of I look 290 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: at the overall body of work throughout his whole entire career. 291 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: I think that's why I got a booka ahead of 292 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: ahead of Golden. 293 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: Something I love to do is as ask Bob, because 294 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: I don't get to work with them all the time, 295 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: and biby begets to hear these things. But why are 296 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: we seeing these My dress's wide receivers kind of falling 297 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: a little bit, you know, like you know, burden is falling. 298 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: We you know, just talk about certain guys that we 299 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: may have on our top fifteen or so. The league 300 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: may not see it that way. 301 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 5: Why is that? 302 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 7: I think Burden scares people because of how his final 303 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 7: season at Missouri went, where it was all right, was 304 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 7: the progression? Is he going to take the step up? 305 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 7: Is he going to have a really big year here 306 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 7: at Missouri? The last year and it didn't go all 307 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 7: He was banged up a little bit, So there's some 308 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 7: of that question there. I personally get concerned by players 309 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 7: like Burden coming out just because whenever it's and I've 310 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 7: talked about this before, whenever the top lineman to me 311 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 7: is what you do after the catch or like oh 312 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 7: they're a playmaker and put the ball in their hands, 313 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 7: and like, you know, the Malachi Corley's last year, Like 314 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 7: I let Malachi Corley burn me last year. I think 315 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 7: because he doesn't look like he's going to be the 316 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 7: type of player that I thought it could be there, 317 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 7: there's just more of a projector or more uncertainty to 318 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 7: me with somebody like Burton. So I think that there 319 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 7: may be some of that question with people who look 320 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 7: at Burdon, say you were a five star, you played 321 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 7: really well early at Missouri, Why did it taper off? 322 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 7: Why do you you know? Why did you seem to 323 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 7: have some of those issues. So that's the deal with Burdon. McMillan. 324 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 7: I don't know, like McMillan falling in some of these 325 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 7: mocks where he's going like twenty I said it last week, 326 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 7: He's Kyle Hamilton to me at receiver where it's like 327 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 7: Kyle Hamilton. People it felt like started overthinking him and 328 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 7: maybe had some fatigue because he was being mentioned for 329 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 7: a year plus as one of the top players in 330 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 7: the draft, and all of a sudden, Kyle Hamilton slides 331 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 7: like fourteen to the Ravens and he turns out to 332 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 7: be a great player. Like I think McMillan is one 333 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 7: of those guys that in the past, whether it's you know, 334 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 7: Brian Branch or Kyle Hamilton or some of these guys 335 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 7: that it feels like we overthink a little bit and 336 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 7: let them slide. I wonder if he'll be one of 337 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 7: those guys. I would hope he wouldn't get past twelve 338 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 7: in that instance. 339 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, when he shouldn't. 340 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 6: If he shouldn't get past twelve, I don't get it. 341 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 6: I'm with you, guys, I don't get it. I mean, 342 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 6: this guy is he's game fast. You know, everybody's talking 343 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 6: about this forty time, but he's game fast. He's clocked 344 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 6: in a couple of times at nineteen miles an hour 345 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 6: at Arizona. And you know, we talked about how good 346 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 6: Luther Burden is after the catch. I don't think Ted 347 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 6: Roe McMillan is that far behind in terms of what 348 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 6: he can do for you, just because of that long 349 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 6: stride he's got to build, it's hard to bring down 350 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 6: for some of these corners that may be a little 351 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 6: bit smaller. And then you add in too, what he 352 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 6: can do with fifty f fifty balls and contested catches, 353 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 6: the catch radius that he's got with those long arms 354 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 6: and body control. I mean, this guy's clearly, for me, 355 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 6: the best wide receiver in this class. 356 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 7: I don't see wasted movement with him, no like and 357 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 7: that that's one of the big things to me, is 358 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 7: that it's like if you're four or five five, but 359 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 7: you're efficient in everything that you do, the way that 360 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 7: you move across the field, I don't think it matters 361 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 7: nearly as much. 362 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's an athletic freak show. 363 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 6: So you add all that into it, and it just 364 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 6: seems this might be one of those where it's it's 365 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 6: like one of those smoke screens. 366 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: Early. 367 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 6: I feel like, like, you know, you see him dropping twenty. 368 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 6: I don't know if he gets out of the top ten. 369 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 6: I don't know if he's even there for Dallas at twelve. 370 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: Could very well be the case. I would I would 371 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: go in Vegas, I say, I doubt he's there. New 372 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: York Carolina. I mean any of those teams us likely not. 373 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: To be there. Mc millaner Genty. 374 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 7: I feel it's starting to feel more like j J. 375 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: He will be there, well not will not. 376 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be there. I think neither one 377 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: of them be there. Neither should be there. Like their 378 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 4: top five guys on my look, my boy ain't ain't 379 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: there boy, But yeah, those are two guys that shouldn't 380 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: be there. We should be having a conversations about Mike 381 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: Green or something and not McMillian because we get me 382 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: a million, I say we, But if Dallas getting a million, 383 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: y'all had to keep me out of him, and I'm 384 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna stop, stand up and clap. 385 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: Stand on the table now. I just as we sit 386 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: here almost one month out, if you had to say, 387 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: in one word what the position would be that you 388 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: would spend the twelfth overall pick on? What would it be? 389 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: One position doesn't have to be a player, doesn't have 390 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: to be a guest. But what would you spend it on? 391 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: Based off of what they've done in free agency over 392 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks, where would you go? 393 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: I don't think free agency has limited them to even 394 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: it has I don't think. I think they just prevented 395 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: depth from going out the door and added some pieces 396 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: to make sure that they can draft and they don't 397 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: have to force it. 398 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: So wide receiver though, like it has to be, it 399 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 5: has to be. 400 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 7: You don't have to right now, you don't have a 401 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 7: legitimate starter. I don't think they're right now. Is the 402 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 7: number two? 403 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, Cooks walk So now you like worse? 404 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 4: So now your wide receivers are Tobin interpreinting, CD Tobin 405 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: interpreted And that's y'all ready for that. 406 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 5: Paris Campbell, I'm not, I don't. I hope he's not here. 407 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: He's here? 408 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 5: And is he here? 409 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 410 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: Hey man, he'll be competing when we get the ox focks, 411 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: and you know, we'll we'll just see, uh Sanders, Miles Sanders, 412 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: I think he's a competing at Oxford. 413 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: Guy, I don't, I don't. I don't know how long 414 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 5: they're gonna be here. I don't know. I don't know 415 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 5: if they're around in September. 416 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: For a team that wants to run the ball, they 417 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: got no runner, Nope. So I mean that's if you 418 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: want to, if you want to talk about twelve. I 419 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 3: don't know how comfortable everybody is taking Hampton or Johnson 420 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 3: or one of those guys. 421 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: He was mocked today to the Cowboys. Hampton was out 422 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: of North Carolina. Would you feel comfortable in that sense? 423 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 5: He was mocked at twelve? It was well won them 424 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 5: trade back. 425 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: He was at twelve. 426 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 7: That's second time in a row Kuiper's put him at twelve. 427 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. 428 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: That's where I keep an eye on that because Kuiper 429 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: he did the thing with Tyler Smith. He did the 430 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: same thing with Tyler Smith. 431 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 4: If if Jens's not there and McMillan is not there, 432 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what it looks like to get wiped out, 433 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: you know this year, But if it's a version of 434 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 4: wiped out to where look, we need running back and 435 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: we don't think Hampton's gonna be there. And Hampton's like 436 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: your seventeenth guy, if he's your sixteen seventeenth guy. 437 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: Then you'll be fine. 438 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 4: I wouldn't hurt It wouldn't hurt me because we have Hampton, 439 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: Like oo, you have drafted Hampton and all these other 440 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: guys aren't there. I would have rather Hampton than Will 441 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: Johnson or something. 442 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: So that's what it's gonna ask you Hampton, Mikel Williams 443 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: or Will Johnson. 444 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: See you purposely picked two players I have a problem 445 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: with and one player that I love. 446 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: So you asked me where I would you put. 447 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: On my board. I'm taking the running back that I love. 448 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: I'm not one of these guys that hate drafting running 449 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 4: back like that. You know, I don't know either. I 450 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: hate paying running back for a long time, but drafting 451 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 4: running back we can go party. 452 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: I will get Hampton. 453 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you a question based off 454 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: of that, if you had to rank those three guys 455 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: and who you would take in that. 456 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: Order, what would it be? 457 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: Who was again, it was Hampton, Mikel Williams, and then 458 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: Will Johnson. 459 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 5: For me, I'm going Hampton, Johnson, Williams in that order. 460 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: I think it's likely they would reverse that and it 461 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: would be Oh yeah, I think it's William Johnson and 462 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: then Hampton. 463 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 5: But mel Kiper said that Hampton. 464 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: So what we need to do is this show needs 465 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: to just start talking about Will Johnson and Michel Williams. 466 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: Like Tommy brought up the other day with Michael Williams 467 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: that now. 468 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: I would literally be hurt and I would lose a 469 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 4: lot of faith in what we got going on here. 470 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 5: Like, I know they don't care about me. Look, man, 471 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 5: I don't even work here your guest. Man, I'm not. 472 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: I don't even have a like my little Languard thing. 473 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: I don't I don't have clearance around here. I can't 474 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 4: interview nobody. Man, they don't care what I think. Man, 475 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: But if you pass on what if we pass on 476 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: mc millan, for what I would be hurt? I would 477 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 4: be physically hurt and I would have to go through 478 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 4: pick thirteen through thirty two on this show, upset with 479 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: a bad look on my face, man, with a bad look, 480 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 4: and look, I'm sure they look. 481 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 5: Man. 482 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 4: I wish him the best. They're gonna make a lot 483 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 4: of moneybody, mama, house man, I'm proud of you do. 484 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 4: But missing on a on a player that I liked, 485 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: down care what I think for a player that I 486 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 4: got a bunch of problems with or clearly on film 487 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: everybody has questions about. 488 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 5: That's what Brian been talking about for the past three months. 489 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: Man, get you a guy that has the least amount 490 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: of question marks, the least amount of worse you possibly can, 491 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: and you just gave me an order where the question mark. 492 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 5: Dudes are one and two. Hampton ain't got a lot 493 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 5: of question marks? Does Brian? 494 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: Right? 495 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 5: He just running? 496 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: I agree. 497 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: I agree with you, Bobby, what the league saying about him, 498 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 5: you got a lot of question mark. 499 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 7: He doesn't have a lot of question marks. I think 500 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 7: he's solidified as a first rounder. I think that it's 501 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: just the idea of like, here's why I don't think 502 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 7: Hampton would happen at twelve. I think this team is 503 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 7: trying to justify right now, like just working through scenarios, 504 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 7: going why is Ashton gent different enough that we would 505 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 7: consider him here? But like just as you're the same 506 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 7: sort of thing where you float any idea and just say, like, 507 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 7: talk through these scenarios. Okay, typically we wouldn't pursue a 508 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 7: running back this high. Why is all you've done is 509 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 7: talk about running the damn ball right right right right right? 510 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 7: He went out there, you hired. 511 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: This line coach, and you went out and hired this 512 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: guy from Kansas State, and the court and the and 513 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: the guy that the head coach GNA tells him to 514 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 3: run the damn ball right. 515 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 7: But Brian, let's look at that. 516 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: I agree with And you sit there and you say, oh, 517 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: we don't want to take the best back. 518 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 7: I agree. 519 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: Okay, I you know what, don't tell me about running 520 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: the football anymore. 521 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 7: Bright, I agree with you. What I'm saying is is 522 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 7: that if they're having to go through that exercise, picks the. 523 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 3: Corner that can't that we don't know a forty yard 524 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: dash time. 525 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 7: Our gent denty are Genty and Hampton's tags touching for you. 526 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: GT and Hampton? 527 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, like running back. 528 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 7: No, no, no, no exactly. So I think I think 529 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 7: if this team is having to go through that exercise 530 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 7: with Genty and say is he and I think they 531 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 7: would come to a conclusion that says he is. But 532 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 7: I'm saying, if they're having to go through that exercise, 533 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 7: Hampton's not even close enough to begin that exercise. I 534 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 7: don't think. Sure he's a good player, He's not even 535 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 7: close enough to begin that kind of. 536 00:21:52,520 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: A Johnson Okay, Caleb Johnson. 537 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: Nowther you're talking about Will Johns and Caleb Johnson. 538 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not gonna be there. 539 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 7: Riyan doesn't have Will Johnson over Jock Reeves. 540 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: Yay, chock Reeves was a nice place, all right. 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Bryant Hastes, Are you the guy that 606 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 4: the player either has a high floor, that's as good 607 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: as they're gonna be, but they're ready to go right now, 608 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: like a like a jack, like a Jack Sawyer type right, 609 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: or are you the ceiling guy to where? Man, they're 610 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: not ready to go right now. They may not know 611 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: how to play for they only be playing football for 612 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: two weeks, but they're so athletic that maybe in three 613 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: years they'll be the best player in the league. 614 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: Are you floor guy? Are you seiling guy? Around? 615 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: Can I take a cop out answer and say it 616 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: depends on oh he asked you, thank you answer it 617 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: are you ceiling guy? 618 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 12: Rather? 619 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: I would rather go get a guy that's going to 620 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: be an all pro and take a risk on a 621 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: guy that could be an all pro as opposed to 622 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: relying on only the measurables to get it done. I 623 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: want to get a guy that's going to be a badass. 624 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 6: So floor mean that they can't grow anymore at all. 625 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 5: They can't. 626 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 4: They can't grow with what they are right now is 627 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: as good as they are. And that may be a 628 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: that may be a starter, but they just won't get 629 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: any better. 630 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 7: Then I'm a ceiling guy ceiling yeah, But I mean 631 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 7: it's case by case basis, depending on his case, the 632 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 7: context of your football team at the time, like what 633 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 7: are you in a building mode or not? It does matter, 634 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 7: It does matter. It does but no ceiling. If if 635 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to pick one, I'd rather have the 636 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 7: ceiling and trust that I've hired. 637 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: Which is the bigger unknown, the ceiling. The ceiling, that's 638 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: what are you likely to bust on? 639 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: More ceiling? 640 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, give me the floor. That's floor guy, the floor, 641 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: give me, if you if you give me, if you 642 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: give me fifteen floor guys, I'm. 643 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 5: Gonna that's a buka a lot of game. 644 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Booka is a Florida. He can play right now. 645 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's gonna get any bet he 646 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: can run all your round you whatever, whatever, Ye Matthew 647 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: Golden may or may not or a burden may or 648 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: may not. You know what I'm saying, I'm getting to do. 649 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: That's ready to go. I'm sorry to one, you know, 650 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: just real quick. 651 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 7: You know who his floor guy was Jeff Okuda, and 652 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 7: Jeff Okuda did not pan out. And then see guy 653 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 7: was Michaeh. Parsons yep, And so like, I mean, there 654 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 7: is still that you're still having to have these sort 655 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 7: of debates and you still got it just because there's 656 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 7: a projection. I don't think that's enough to be able 657 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 7: to say I'm not gonna project it. 658 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: David admitted that they didn't know that Michael Bright, I'm 659 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: just out of the edge in general. 660 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: Floor guy out of that draft was with Shawn Slater. 661 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: He ended up being a badass and he ended up 662 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: going higher than I think you even we thought about. 663 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: But thanks iming into him, we said he was a 664 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: floor guy. Yeah, I think we all looked at it 665 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: and said he would have been the better pick there 666 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: at that time. And Michael Parsons is what he is, 667 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: and that's what you kind of have. 668 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: You kind of want to floor guy's. The first round 669 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 3: pick is what you want, case by case basis. 670 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 4: You want you want both, you want both guys. You 671 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 4: want the guy that can play right now, that can 672 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 4: get better. That's what you want at like twelve overall. 673 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: That's why I'm if you had to pick one, if 674 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 4: you had to pick one, I'm picking picking. I'm picking 675 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 4: floor go oh the every day Yeah, it's I don't 676 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 4: want to I don't have to trust ten coaches to 677 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 4: get you. 678 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: The good thing is is you don't have to pick one. 679 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: You pick what the prospect is. 680 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 7: Because if Tyler Smith ended up, Tyler Smith ended up 681 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 7: better than Zion Johnson. 682 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: Tyler Smith wrestled like we knew Tyler Smith was strong 683 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: and in everybody, And we thought. 684 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: Zion Johnson was gonna be a perennial pro bowler. 685 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 5: Y'all. I thought that. I ain't think that. 686 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. Man, all right, it's time. 687 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 5: For some Twitter on the Twitter. 688 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: Sorry name, I was a little quick on the trigger. 689 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: You mentioned a wipeout scenario. Yes, John on Twitter wants 690 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: to know about a wipeout scenario? What would it realistically 691 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 2: look like? What are the names that have to be 692 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: gone at twelve in order for you to say, oh 693 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: my gosh, what are we doing here? What are the 694 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: eleven names in front of you? Are just the handful 695 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: that you would have to say, we were wiped out 696 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: and we've got to do something else. 697 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 5: McMillan, Gent Simmons, Carter H. 698 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: Graham, Hunter, like the Cowboys love it because Will Johnson 699 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: to be there, like they'll they'll, they'll, they'll just take him, 700 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: And which. 701 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: Is Mikeel They're Mike. They're not gonna get white. 702 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 5: The Cowboys and never get white. 703 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: They're not because nobody's gonna take the players they like, 704 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: uh and and those like that's my wipeout scenario like, damn, well, 705 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: we really left with Jalen Walker, Mike Hail Williams and 706 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 4: Will Johnson. 707 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 5: Like that's my wipeout for me? 708 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: Brian similar, Yeah, I mean they're not going to get 709 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: wiped out. 710 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: If you guys are telling me that they love Will 711 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: Johnson and Michael Williams, they're gonna be just fine. I mean, 712 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: there's it's. 713 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 7: Well, what about for you to wipe out for you? 714 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 715 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: Well w I McMillan, Burden of Buca, Simmons, Campbell, Genty, 716 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: Carter Graham throw a corner two in there. Yeah, I 717 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: mean you're down to you know. I I don't know 718 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: if they would pick Green or you know, or are 719 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: they pick Morrison or Revel at corner? I don't. I 720 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: mean they they're so if you take what like I 721 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: say for me personally, I I love Genty, I do, 722 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: and I love Simmons too. I don't think, you know, 723 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: I don't think they take Simmons. 724 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 5: What about the lineback from Alabama? Campbell? 725 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 4: What about him hot Campbell? Do y'all see him as 726 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: a twelve overall? A twelve overall game with Walker all 727 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: over the board on him. 728 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 7: They're they're like there was. I think DJ Today mocked 729 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 7: him in the top ten. Wow, I think and other 730 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 7: like yeah, no, I I don't look at Johig Campbell 731 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 7: as you know, a twelfth overall player somebody in that group. 732 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 7: But I mean that I've heard so many things all 733 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 7: over the place with camp I. 734 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: Would take I would consider taking him over Johnson and 735 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 3: Michael Williams. 736 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 5: I agree there, but I'm also taking Booker over. 737 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: I have him in a similar spot to Williams and Johnson. 738 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: I have both those guys above Campbell, but I have 739 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: Campbell as one of my like he's top second round picks, 740 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: so he'll probably end up in the mid twenties. If 741 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: I had the guess, yeah. 742 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 6: Walker's a better player. 743 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: I agree, Walker's might LB one. 744 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm wrong about that one. 745 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 7: That's all good. 746 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: He's out. 747 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: Is that the player I had the best chance of 748 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: being wrong about Walker. 749 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: I I'm probably gonna be more wrong about Walker because 750 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: he could go out there and do a little something 751 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: and everybody's going to start tagging me. But I just 752 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: think Walker does, pardon me, I think Campbell does. All 753 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: the linebackers. 754 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: Oh, you're not wrong about that. I just think I 755 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: think Wasser's the flrd ceiling guy. 756 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 4: That's my floor for sure. I just think Walker is 757 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 4: a pass rusher. I think he's a defensive I think 758 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: he's an age. He's just a small defensive event. I 759 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: don't see him as a drop back and coverage dude 760 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 4: or anything like that. 761 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: But it's okay. 762 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: I'll be wrong, that's cool. But if I'm right, and 763 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: if I don't get fired from this and I come 764 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 4: back next year, I'm letting y'all know. 765 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: You've let y'all know what. We usually have a segment 766 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: earlier where it's like, guys you were right about and 767 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: guys you were wrong about. I give you like a 768 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: whole segment would be like that, Derek, except you're like, man, 769 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, get him out of here. No, it's okay. 770 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: Steve asked about actually I want to hear about Tommy's wipeouts. 771 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 6: Wipeouts yet more more or less consensus hunter Carter Gent 772 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 6: Graham Banks from Texas, McMillan, Baron, Tyler Warren from Penn 773 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 6: State at the tight end, and then I've got. 774 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: You would consider him as well just because of how 775 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: good of a prospect he is. 776 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would, I would consider I wouldn't pick him, 777 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 6: but I would consider I think that what he's able 778 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 6: to do for you, just because of how good of 779 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 6: a receiver he is at tight end. I don't know 780 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 6: how good of an inline blocker he is, but just 781 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 6: how athletic he is and how much he can do 782 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 6: for an all. I mean, you saw him take snaps 783 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 6: literally everywhere at Penn State quarterback, running back, wildcat offense. 784 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 6: When you've got an athlete like that, I think it's 785 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 6: worth a thought. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't take him out. 786 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: That would be the one thing I have a question 787 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: on is the blocking element of it. That's where Bowers differs. 788 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: Like everybody's looking at Tyler Warren and they're saying, oh, 789 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: he's Brock Bowers here in twenty five. That's not the case. 790 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: Brock Bowers was a more complete tight end. But Tyler 791 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: Warren's a damn good receive. 792 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: As song as you're picking at twelve and you got 793 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: fifteen names on the board, you're not going to get 794 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: wiped out. 795 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just which is probably gonna be the case. Yeah, 796 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: most likely. 797 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 7: Noney, all y'all, none of y'all would have none of 798 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 7: you mentioned him. I guess I haven't noticed enough to 799 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 7: know if you guys care for him. None of y'all 800 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 7: think Will Campbell would be in a wipeout. I think, Brian, 801 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 7: I think Cambell, did you mention miss that I think 802 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 7: Will Campbell's really I would I think I think Will 803 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 7: Campbell's definitively a top ten player. 804 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 5: I would see Campbell than Johnson Wiel. 805 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 7: To me, like some of these scenarios where I said 806 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 7: Will Campbell getting pushed down to twelve that some people 807 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 7: are putting out there, which is not common. You're starting 808 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 7: to see a little bit more of it. 809 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, I would go a chum of the water 810 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: right now. No, I'm Campbell. 811 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 7: I'm just saying I could be talked in about his 812 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 7: guards whip as your plug and play because Brian, Brian's 813 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 7: just uh, he's adorable with his questions. 814 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, he's wearing purple, so I think it's only he 815 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: walked in. 816 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 7: Here smelling great too. 817 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: We're talking about that earlier on Interesting. Yeah, a little picture. 818 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 7: For this is why I got hohired from the Star. 819 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: Right so, I think that there there needs to be 820 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: a conversation about Will Campbell at twelve. Where would you 821 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: play him first off, is your right guard of the future, 822 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: and then you're keeping everything as is. I think what 823 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: you tackle, I think so too. Yeah, I would put 824 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: him at right tackle and ride. 825 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 5: But I'm putting the mid left, and then you would 826 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 5: flip your right and I'm lift. 827 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: I'm living that second year lift tackle fight for his life, 828 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 4: and we'll see where we go from there. I personally 829 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: think that terror still is a little better than than guiding. 830 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 4: But you know, maybe they want to save a little 831 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: money by moving on from terrors. I don't know what 832 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: the what the move is there, but I just don't 833 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 4: see Campbell as a as a gardener. I think he's 834 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: just a full blown tackle guy. He's a little high 835 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: in the stands, but he's a He's a full. 836 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: Blown tap gut of me. What do you think he's 837 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: a tackle tackle? 838 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 6: I think that the him and him and Banks are 839 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 6: the two that you hear at the top of that 840 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 6: tackle list that it's like, oh, there should be guards. 841 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 6: I don't think either of them are guards. I think 842 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 6: I think they're both. 843 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: Tackling and tackle. Yeah, Brian thinks he's a guard. 844 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: No, he's no Banks is. I think Will Campbell is. 845 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: But you're you're not. I'm not going to take him 846 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 3: over Simmons. 847 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 5: Simmons is better, man. 848 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: Y'all are high on Simmons. Simmons is Simmons Like I'm 849 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: staying on business, on business, stay to your st trut 850 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: r board. I still think Simmons is Bobby smiling man. 851 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: It's not the second round, No, it's him. 852 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 7: Say it's standing on business. I was thinking of PJ. 853 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 7: Washington and he's been lately. 854 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: Let's not talk about that. Okay, let's not talk about 855 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: it all right. Back to Steve's questions here on Twitter 856 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: on the twenty what each of you name a running 857 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: back or a corner that you would be okay with 858 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: on Day three if you don't go with either one 859 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: of those spots in the first three rounds. Which is 860 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: that would be a wipeout scenario for me, is if 861 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: Dallas leaves the first three rounds without taking a run 862 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: back or a corner. But what are some of your 863 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: Day three guys that you would possibly have an eye on? 864 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 4: Every single running back that me and Brian have been watching. 865 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 4: I say me and Brian because we do a show 866 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 4: every night, we haven't seen a guy that we know 867 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 4: every night yeah, the doing all right, go check it 868 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: out on YouTube. But we we've just been watching running 869 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 4: backs and they may fall in different rounds in a round, 870 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 4: you know, three four five, but we'll take all of 871 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: them to some extent. Like I've talked about a lot 872 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 4: of edges that I just don't like, right, there's not 873 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 4: a running back that we don't like, even my even this, 874 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: this group of Devin Neils. 875 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 5: Brooks none guy. 876 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 2: Is that a problem? 877 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 4: I think this is a good ass group of backs. 878 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: That good of a group it could be a problem 879 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 4: or are. 880 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: We just not being selective enough on running back? 881 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 4: The problem is cowboys might overthink this since the end 882 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 4: of overthinking, and they may go, well, we don't need 883 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 4: Hampton at forty four. If he's there, we'll just take 884 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 4: my none guy in the field for something like that. 885 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 5: I don't want that to happen. 886 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 4: But on Kylen guy, I love that's the I think 887 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 4: this is a fantastic cross key mirror over him. Frosty 888 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 4: Mayor from Arizona is a dude. Martinez is a dude. 889 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 4: Scatter boat. People like them a little more and not 890 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 4: like him, but. 891 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 7: He's yeah, terrible. 892 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 4: Know, Well, I'll text people, uh f Tome Darns and 893 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 4: and and and and too. Like, we've watched twenty four 894 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 4: running backs and we like them all, so uh, pick 895 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 4: a running back, and I don't have a bad thing 896 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 4: to saying. 897 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 3: The last guy on my board is a kid named 898 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: Mullins from Michigan, and I have him in the fifth 899 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: round and I would still I would draft him, absolutely 900 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: draft him. But you talk about like they're to me. 901 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: The fascinating group is comparing, And the question is a 902 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: really good one because if I take my fourth round 903 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: runners and comparing my fourth round corners, that's pretty I 904 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 3: think I could go a little bit further with my runners. 905 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: But my fourth round corners Repairish from Kansas State, Riley 906 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: from Louisville, Huzzy from North Carolina. All those guys can 907 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 3: play Nickel by the way, Strong from Virginia Tech is 908 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: in there, dots in Bryant, Kansas, Alexander Lsu. I take 909 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 3: those guys. But my fourth round, my fourth round runners, 910 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 3: James Neil Giddons at N Brooks, Martinez toutten, that's a 911 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 3: good group of guys too. So yeah, it's I think 912 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: both those positions, I think I think there's on Day 913 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: three you could actually the the runners, the linebackers and 914 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: the corners might be all in play that that you 915 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 3: can probably make that thing stretch a little but and 916 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: probably defensive end. 917 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: So which one you said you feel more confident in 918 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: your running running backs on day three than you do 919 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: your corners or is it about the. 920 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 5: Same Take the take the corner first? 921 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: Wotch do this for me? James Oregon, Neil Kansas, Gettings, 922 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: Kansas State or Perish, Kansas State, Riley, Louisville, Hussey, North Carolina. 923 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 5: I'm going with that group of running running backs for sure. 924 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 7: I think two of those three corners are not going 925 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 7: to be there on day three. 926 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: Which one do you think? 927 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 7: Parish right Parish like them? 928 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 929 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 7: I think I think Parish and Riley are gone on 930 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 7: the third. 931 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: So probably around low on the runners and corners are 932 00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 3: just the corners. 933 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 7: The runners are just so jump It's the ice cream 934 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 7: question you always ask about, Like, I think, there are 935 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 7: just so many of them. It depends on how people 936 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 7: prioritize them. But no, I mean, I think it's possible 937 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 7: those guys could any one of those guys could still 938 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 7: be there on day three. It's just it's I have 939 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 7: no idea how teams are gonna stack them. 940 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, then the running backs may may fall just because 941 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 4: they're running backs, and you know, corners more premium, I guess, 942 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 4: so even if you have a fourth on those guys, 943 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 4: they may go go third just because they are corners. 944 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 7: The first the first name I thought of when we 945 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 7: were talking running back and corner here was, for example, 946 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 7: like when you say day three, Devin Neils, who I 947 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 7: thought of like as being a guy who could potentially 948 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 7: be there in like fifth round. That's really but again, 949 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 7: somebody may like him, somebody may like them. 950 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 3: I got him in the fourth. 951 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 6: I have a late third on him. If you if 952 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 6: you get him on day three, I think you're you're 953 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 6: setting yourself up pretty well. I think he's one of 954 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 6: the better receiving backs in the class. 955 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 7: That's a bell Coow too. 956 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 9: Yeah. 957 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 6: Other other day three got Jordan James from Oregon. Of 958 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 6: him Brishard smith S MU got him in the third. Yeah, 959 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 6: I think I think he's pretty good too. And then 960 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 6: at that corner spot, a guy I know Bobby's a 961 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 6: big fan of his, Jacob Parrish. I think he would 962 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 6: fit perfectly into that that slot corner position that you're 963 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 6: looking for. 964 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: There's three corners I think that can all play that. 965 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 3: I think you could plug him in. Parish is one 966 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 3: of them. I think Riley at Louisville, and then we 967 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 3: mentioned Hussey from North Carolina. North Carolina. 968 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 7: Agree with all that Lewis replacement. I think Parish looks 969 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 7: a ton like Jordan Lewis. 970 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. Now, the good news is that 971 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 2: we're naming guys that we all like that are probably 972 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: going to be available whenever they have the two fifth 973 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: round picks and the sixth round picks and a couple sevens, 974 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 2: and then that's not even the case. If they tried 975 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 2: and trade up and package some of those selections, I 976 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: will back into the fourth. 977 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 4: I would love if I would love if they try 978 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 4: to get a four because I think the four is 979 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 4: going to be rich this year. 980 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 5: That's where I think the fourth round is going to 981 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 5: be rich. 982 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 4: Thish, I agree with you, and I think some of 983 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 4: these guys that we're looking at as like third like, 984 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 4: some of those guys just gonna kind of, you know, 985 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 4: fall there. But you know, if if you can get 986 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: a guy, you know, we just had a we just 987 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 4: had to talk about our tackle from Kentucky. There, right, 988 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 4: Walker Walker, All the news is weird, strange, all his 989 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: back is broke, Okay, whatever, that's why he wasn't good 990 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 4: to see it. But if he can be that first 991 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 4: round talent type dude that we watch on films sometimes, right, 992 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 4: if you can get that dude in the fourth round 993 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 4: and figure it out, I think you just see that 994 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 4: slam dunk at the top of the four. 995 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: Fourth round pick. That would be awesome because you're talking 996 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: about traits, talking about ceiling, you're talking about everything you need. 997 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: But you're not wasting one of those three picks. And 998 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say wasting it. That's probably a harsh term, sure, 999 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: but you're not taking a premium top one hundred risky 1000 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: investment risking the investment. There go, that's a great way 1001 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: to put it. You go by taking Walk. 1002 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 3: Kember, Okay, if you're in the fourth go for it 1003 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 3: Himber Collins from Texas. 1004 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 2: I would go with Collins. 1005 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 4: Collins is a better dude, and I don't have questions 1006 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 4: about his back or why his scene. 1007 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: But if you're talking about higher ceiling, if we're going 1008 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 2: back to that conversation, Walker's probably has. 1009 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 4: Walker has that Walker some If you make a highlight tape. 1010 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 4: He could be a first round type dude with his 1011 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 4: highlight tape. Yeah, but his downs are weird, Like, oh wow, 1012 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 4: I just looked at it. I've got Collins and Walker 1013 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 4: touching tags. 1014 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 5: There you go. 1015 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: But Collins is above. 1016 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 4: Them some some some plays Walker makes, Collins couldn't couldn't 1017 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 4: Dare make them. So that's where that risk comes in. Man, 1018 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 4: hey man, what's wrong with your back? 1019 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 13: Man? 1020 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 5: Why why did the Senior Bowl look like this? 1021 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 7: This? 1022 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 4: This is a prime example of what of what the 1023 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 4: private visit thing situation, thirty visit or whatever. He should 1024 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 4: be a prime thirty visit guy. 1025 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 3: Bro. 1026 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 5: What's going on? 1027 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 12: Bro? 1028 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 5: What happened? 1029 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 2: Bro? 1030 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 5: What happened to senior? Bro? But let me what's going 1031 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 5: on with your back? 1032 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 4: And if and if you get good answers out of 1033 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 4: that and he interviews okay, and he just pops up 1034 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 4: in the fourth and you just start thinking about that 1035 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 4: first round looking film. Look at these highlights saying that 1036 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 4: that first round looking film. I just smiled thinking about 1037 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 4: Dion Walker as a first round looking guy as your 1038 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 4: fourth round pick. 1039 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: And Tommy, you you talked to Alfred Collins on the 1040 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: way was it Senior Bowl or combine combine. So on 1041 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 2: the way to the combine, you talked to al Ford 1042 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: Collins and the Cowboys met with him formally. I mean, 1043 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: did you get a pretty good indication of maybe where 1044 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: he would fit in with this team, most likely over 1045 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: a guy like Dion Walker. 1046 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 6: You know, he's not a big interview guy. He's kind 1047 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 6: of short with his answers. But you know, when you 1048 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 6: look at Collins, I think it's kind of similar to 1049 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 6: the conversation that you have with Dion Walker in the 1050 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 6: sense of there's so much upside there. But the thing 1051 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 6: that worries me about Collins is that that's been his 1052 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 6: whole career at Texas is, Hey, we're banking on this 1053 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 6: guy because he has so much room to grow and 1054 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 6: he's got so much upside, and he got better each 1055 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 6: year that he went along, and his last year at 1056 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 6: Texas was by far his best year. But it feels 1057 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 6: like he still hasn't really reached what people thought that 1058 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 6: he would, just in terms of what he's able to 1059 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 6: do with how athletic he was and how big he was. 1060 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 6: I think he looks like a million bucks. I mean, 1061 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 6: he takes up a lot of space there in the 1062 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 6: middle and you know he improved in rushing the passer 1063 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 6: and can plug up the run really well. Texted a 1064 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 6: good job on the interior that this past year. But 1065 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 6: can he take that next step? I think that's always 1066 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 6: been the question with Alfred Collins, and it's going to 1067 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 6: be an even bigger one as he goes to the NFL. 1068 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 6: Is can he take that next step and be kind 1069 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 6: of everything guy in the middle of the D line. 1070 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 7: I'm always like, I will always take a chance on 1071 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 7: somebody with Alfred Collins size, like the Measurables, the Traders, 1072 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 7: and then somebody who plays as hard as he does, 1073 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 7: like that he is a he's a motor guy. He 1074 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 7: doesn't he doesn't take stuff off like I felt like 1075 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 7: there were times like Dion Walker would take off. Yeah, 1076 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 7: And so for me probably yeah, yeah, from just carrying 1077 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 7: Kentucky everywhere. But uh, I think Alfred Collins, like Collins is, 1078 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 7: those are two guys that both having the third but 1079 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 7: like Walker's bottom of third, Collins is at the top 1080 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 7: of that list on the stack. And so for me, 1081 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 7: I think Collins is somebody who absolutely if you want 1082 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 7: to throw something there in the third round and see 1083 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 7: if it'll work out, those are traits and effort and 1084 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 7: motor and everything else that I think are worth banking on. 1085 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: I agree, No, I like it good discussion because they've 1086 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 2: taken their time looking at these defensive tackles. They've started 1087 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 2: looking at interior defensive and I think when we get 1088 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: to thirty visit time, like you said, Walker is a 1089 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 2: prime possibility there, I wouldn't be surprised to see his 1090 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 2: name on that list. That list is not available yet, 1091 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 2: nor the reports really started yet, but he he could 1092 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: be on that list moving forward. All right, when we 1093 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: come back, I want to talk a little bit about 1094 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 2: the thought process whenever it gets to got my rundown 1095 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 2: right here. 1096 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 3: Pro days. 1097 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: Pro Day's coming up here in a moment. Some of 1098 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: the bigger schools have already done some pro days. How 1099 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 2: much does it really play a factor on your board? 1100 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: How much does it change things? 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Download the app now to join alongside Tommy Yash, 1149 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 2: Brian Prattess, Fox Lombardi with Bobby Belts and Chris Beam 1150 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: in the back of Kyle Yeomans. Glad you're with us. 1151 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: Just got through with some twitter on the twenty I 1152 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: missed the one here, guys. Caesar wanted to know about 1153 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: trading back and trying to possibly pick up that fourth rounder. 1154 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: You're all good with that? Then you can maybe take 1155 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: a chance on a guy like a Mason Taylor second 1156 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 2: round something like that. Is you cool with that? 1157 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 7: Yep? I'm all about picking Mason Taylor, whatever it takes 1158 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 7: in the second Can I take I had I take, 1159 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 7: I had Mason Taylor rival interview with you? 1160 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 3: What was that? 1161 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 7: Can I take part in the Mason Taylor rival interview? 1162 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 7: Come on? 1163 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 3: Cool? 1164 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 7: All right? 1165 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 5: We can make it happen when his family come through. 1166 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 2: Bobby's on the bus hanging out. Bobby's a big fan 1167 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: of Mason Taylor plays just. 1168 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 7: Wearing out Almonds texts all the time. 1169 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it, all right. 1170 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 2: Pro days have continued on and the pro Day schedule 1171 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 2: is running down the list at the moment. You kind 1172 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 2: of said this in the break watch, but I want 1173 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 2: the I want the people to hear it. Yeah, how 1174 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: much do you care about Prodasky? 1175 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 5: About it. 1176 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 4: You know, uh, you know, everybody runs a little faster, 1177 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 4: you know. 1178 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 2: That thirty eight yard downhill dash that Brian likes to 1179 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 2: talk about. 1180 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 4: This is what's important, right If we hear oh x 1181 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 4: y Z cowboy coach, is that this proda to look 1182 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 4: at x y Z play like that means a little something. 1183 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 4: But if it's about a player moving faster, or hey 1184 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 4: look at those drills, or look at Johnny Manziel throwing 1185 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 4: in shorts and a helmet, I don't really care about 1186 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 4: the protein in particularly. So I'll wait for my you know, 1187 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,919 Speaker 4: cowboy friends to you know, tweet about him like, hey, 1188 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 4: this is this coach was here and I'd be like, oh, 1189 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 4: well that coach was there. That means something. But the 1190 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 4: actual pro day doesn't move anything. It doesn't move anything. 1191 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 5: On my board. 1192 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 2: And I think that's a great point because that is 1193 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 2: something that you got to take advantage of. Is where 1194 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 2: you see those guys end up. We've talked about it. 1195 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 2: I know, Brian, you were very high on this when 1196 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 2: it happened. But when dan Quinn was hitting the road 1197 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 2: and he was at each of these pro days. 1198 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 3: It seemed to draft a lot of guys with dan 1199 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 3: Quinn was at pro. 1200 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 2: Dage exactly, and you can kind of get to that 1201 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 2: point again this year. I wanted to. 1202 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's something you have to be very 1203 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 3: mindful of that. Will McClay has an interesting job. He's 1204 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 3: trying to make scout's happy. Coach is happy, and the 1205 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 3: jones is happy, and it's a difficult job to do. 1206 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 3: And if you know, if there's kind of a question 1207 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 3: between two players, they tend to side with the coaches 1208 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 3: on some of these guys. So I would keep an 1209 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: eye an eye on where some of these coaches are working, 1210 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 3: and especially not I mean if your offensive coordinator goes somewhere, 1211 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 3: or your defensive corneror goes somewhere cool, you get a 1212 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 3: position coach roll into one of these pro days, keep 1213 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 3: an eye on that guy. 1214 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 2: So you think it's more important to see where the 1215 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 2: position coaches go. Position coach, not necessarily scouts or anybody 1216 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,879 Speaker 2: like that. The scouts are always going to go, That's 1217 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,720 Speaker 2: what I thought. Scouts are always going to go. Scouts 1218 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 2: are always going to go to get the numbers, get 1219 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 2: the measurables. Because there was a lot of love last 1220 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 2: week Texas A or East Texas A and m has 1221 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 2: an edge rusher out there that a lot of players 1222 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 2: and draft nuts out there are really interested in. Chris 1223 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: Hall was first in front and Chris Hall that's his area, 1224 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 2: that's where he's at. 1225 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's going to If they send a coach 1226 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 3: in there to work that player out, then you then 1227 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 3: now really pay attention. Yeah. 1228 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 7: It's also the Pro Days a lot of times when 1229 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 7: you talk to people in personnel and Brian, I don't 1230 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 7: know if this is your experience. 1231 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 3: But Dallas stays really good for them. Yes, it is 1232 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 3: guys without having to go out. 1233 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's it's good also on the front for 1234 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 7: just intel for like when they're on when they're when 1235 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 7: they're there at the workout, maybe they can talk to 1236 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,399 Speaker 7: a strength coach or a position coach something who when 1237 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 7: they're in the middle of the season didn't feel like 1238 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 7: giving up too much different is now willing to talk 1239 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 7: about something with you about a guy. So I think 1240 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 7: a lot of times there is you will see a 1241 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 7: little bit of margins that you can pick up in 1242 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 7: terms of intel or insight from the school and people 1243 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 7: that work there when you go to the Pro Days, 1244 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 7: as opposed to what you would have gotten in the fall. 1245 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 2: Is there any of that for guys, especially in this 1246 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 2: day and age of college football, where you have the 1247 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 2: transferred portal and you have so many guys skipping school. 1248 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the guys we've talked about is 1249 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 2: Walter Nolan, right, and from Texas A and M. Didn't 1250 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 2: have the best reputation from college station, goes to Old Miss, 1251 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 2: had a good season. Now he's getting drafted out of 1252 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 2: Old Miss. Can you go to Texas A and M's 1253 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 2: pro day and ask about what Walter Nolan did? I remember, 1254 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm in Texas A and M. 1255 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1256 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 3: I remember going to Johnny Manziel's pro day at Texas 1257 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 3: A and M. And this is when Jimbo Fisher was 1258 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: the coach and I talked to him about all the 1259 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 3: Florida State players. I didn't ask him about one Texas 1260 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 3: A and M player, and he was He's like, he goes, man, 1261 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 3: he goes, he goes, I really am glad you did this. 1262 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 3: He goes, I'm learning these A and M kids. He goes, 1263 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 3: but I know those kids down in Tallahassee and they 1264 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 3: had a bunch of them, and he was able to 1265 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: kind of fill me in from a head coaching perspective 1266 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 3: of like who he thought could really play, who were 1267 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 3: good kids who you might have to kick in the 1268 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 3: butt to kind of get going. But sometimes you could. 1269 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 3: You could catch a coach that's been somewhere else and 1270 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 3: at a pro day and really learned a lot about 1271 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 3: that team because he's not there anymore, you know. 1272 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 6: So it helps. 1273 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 2: And remember there's a proda going across the board here 1274 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 2: starting tomorrow. The Big twelve is doing there day from here, 1275 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of names on that list that 1276 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 2: you could possibly look at. No, there is no Tetoro 1277 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: at McMillan working out. He's already done his own definition, 1278 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 2: so he's not doing that. But you've got a lot 1279 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 2: of names from Arizona, Arizona State, Baylor BYU, those the 1280 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,919 Speaker 2: schools Colorado as. 1281 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 7: A Jalen working out. 1282 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 2: Uh, let me see Iowa State up he should be. 1283 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the list state wide receiver. He is 1284 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 2: not working out at Big twelve. Yeah, he's not. So, 1285 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean you can find the whole list on the 1286 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 2: Big twelve website. There were allowed to go watch that. 1287 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 2: I can get you credentially, you want. 1288 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 7: One, got to get it through the Big twelve. 1289 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. The Big twel Yeah, it's the Big twelve specific Okay, 1290 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 3: I just was curious if we were allowed to watch. 1291 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, you want if you want to snatch credentially good. 1292 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 2: I actually think it's open to the public too. 1293 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 3: Oh wow cool. I think it's free admission and open 1294 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 3: to the public. So are the cowboys running it as 1295 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 3: they're hosting? Are they getting no? 1296 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 2: All Big Twelve? 1297 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 7: It's all so yeah. I mean last year when they 1298 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 7: had it up here, it was run just like a 1299 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 7: normal pro day. But like when it's funny the guy 1300 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 7: who ran. 1301 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,240 Speaker 3: It's like, Sanders isn't throwing here. 1302 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 7: Right, Sanders was supposed to be here. I don't know 1303 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 7: if he's working out. 1304 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, he's on the list to be there, and 1305 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 3: so I wonder because I thought maybe that that his 1306 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 3: his quarter is OC would probably run the workout for him. 1307 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 7: I have not been blinded by the glimmer of his 1308 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 7: chain yet though, So I don't know if he's actually 1309 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 7: made it to Frisco yet. 1310 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet. No, uh no. Travis hunter 1311 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 2: By the way, if you're wondering about should Sanders, Travis 1312 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 2: Hunters not on the list in terms of workouts, So 1313 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 2: I mean Shou is on the list, which means he 1314 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 2: could possibly do it, But I don't know. 1315 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 3: There's is the Big twelve flying in all these kids 1316 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 3: for this. 1317 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 6: On the screw. 1318 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 7: I don't remember what the arrangement is. So they did 1319 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 7: the first one last year, and I mean it was 1320 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 7: it was cool. There were a lot of people from 1321 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 7: NFL ops here. Roman Ovin was here, they and I 1322 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 7: mean there were a ton of scouts. 1323 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 2: It was. 1324 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 7: It was productive. Yeah, but yeah, I don't. 1325 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,959 Speaker 3: Just down the line kids then who were talking. 1326 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 7: I mean last year there was TJ. Tampa was here, Okay. 1327 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 7: I mean you had some guys who went in like 1328 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 7: the second third round who were running okay, cool. Yeah, 1329 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 7: and I mean they're running forties out there. 1330 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 3: Good. 1331 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 2: Probably not the first round names, but good. Everybody else 1332 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 2: is good. Too much ope in there and you can 1333 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 2: watch a little bit of it on the NFL network 1334 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 2: in NFL streaming apps, is what it says here on 1335 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 2: the release. So lots of pro days still to be had, Tommy, 1336 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 2: have you gotten any kind of indication on where Dallas 1337 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 2: would be looking or some of the different guys across 1338 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 2: the board coaching staff, where they've they've been already through 1339 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 2: these first couple of weeks. 1340 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,959 Speaker 6: Well one of the ones that I know, O'Brien said, 1341 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 6: you know, coordinators and you kind of you kind of 1342 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 6: hold off a little bit on that. But Matty Eberflus, 1343 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 6: it seems like was that Georgia according to a couple 1344 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 6: of reports. And so you know, we talked about Michael 1345 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 6: Williams a little bit earlier. 1346 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 3: You know, might could be he might have been there 1347 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 3: working out Walk or the linebacker. 1348 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that they play that had an LB on 1349 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 2: his chest by the way, so well of. 1350 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 4: Course they got to give him something, you know, I mean, 1351 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 4: it wasn't the edge E DG. Probably didn't even fit, so. 1352 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 2: You put LB. 1353 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 6: But either either one of those, really, I think, you know, 1354 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 6: you can look at Mattiberflus's past and how he's used 1355 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 6: this kinds of players in his defense. I mean, in 1356 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 6: the Chicago there's Montes Sweat coming off the edge. He's 1357 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 6: much bigger than you know, Michael Williams or Jalen Walker. 1358 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 6: But you drive it back at TJ. Edwards and blanking 1359 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 6: on his name, not Tremaine Edmonds, as a couple of 1360 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 6: guys that he had in that linebacker corps. He's got 1361 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 6: his three technique. You know, so Diggi zeuwis So, now 1362 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 6: do you wonder if he's maybe thinking, Okay, how do 1363 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 6: I build around that? And do Mike hil Williams and 1364 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 6: or and or Jalen Walker fit the build for what 1365 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 6: they're looking for? And then there's a couple into your 1366 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 6: guys Georgia too, I mean Tyre and Ingram Dawkins. Yeah, 1367 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 6: is a guy maybe later on in the draft Day 1368 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 6: three that you can that you can consider there at 1369 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 6: defensive tackle. So there's some guys down there. I mean, 1370 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 6: you know, Georgia just cranks out those those defenders, and 1371 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 6: you know you always scout the player and not the helmet. 1372 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 6: But I think George's track record should prove that those 1373 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 6: guys get developed. 1374 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, coming up over it in the next two days. 1375 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 2: I mean today you've got Oregon, South Carolina. Those are 1376 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 2: two schools that are having some big names in the draft. 1377 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 2: Alabama is tomorrow. 1378 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 3: Okay, here, We'm gonna ask you a quick question before 1379 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 3: we get out of here. Huh, you're sending your defensive 1380 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 3: line coach to go work out at one place? You 1381 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 3: send him to Oregon or South Carolina? 1382 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 7: Oregon? 1383 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 3: Oregon? Really? 1384 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 2: I think I would say South Carolina. I want to 1385 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 2: I want to know about t J. Sanders, a couple 1386 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 2: of those other guys. 1387 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, probably Oregon, probably because. 1388 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 5: Oregon is Birch birt Will. 1389 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 2: Harmonyod, a couple of little edge or a little interior 1390 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 2: defensive line talk though at South Carolina. I don't know. 1391 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 5: Oregon to you get, I mean, you get two of them? 1392 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 7: Are three of them? 1393 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 4: Because because because plays both, that's three. That's three ore 1394 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 4: you got yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go party. 1395 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 2: Where would you send them? Brian Oregon, Oregon. I'm I'm 1396 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 2: on an island. That's okay, all right? The uh whenever 1397 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,919 Speaker 2: you look at some of these other ones. You got 1398 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 2: cal They've got a couple of defensive backs that we've 1399 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 2: talked about. 1400 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 3: A corner you need, I mean corner, a linebacker. They 1401 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 3: got a corner an Canon, Yeah, you need. 1402 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 2: Michigan's on the twenty first, Florida State on the twenty first, 1403 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 2: Missouri on the twenty first. Then there's a ton of 1404 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 2: them the twenty fourth and twenty fifth. I mean, let's 1405 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 2: just go down the list. Auburn, Boston College, Iowa, East Carolina. 1406 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 2: If you want to know about revel and kind of 1407 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 2: what his injury issue. He probably's not gonna run, right, 1408 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 2: you don't think, God, I wish. 1409 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 4: Texas probably just gonna have his own day, right because 1410 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 4: they got fifteen. 1411 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 2: March twenty fifth. Yeah, yep, so they've got their own 1412 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 2: date or comedy. You're working on there, working on it, 1413 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 2: working on getting down there. I got to pick up Texas. 1414 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: You're watching. 1415 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 3: Please pick up the phone, please. 1416 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's called you a couple of times. Twenty fourth 1417 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 2: you've got SMU, North Carolina, Miami on that list too. 1418 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean that's twenty fourth and twenty fifth, those are 1419 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 2: big days. Twenty sixth, you've got Ohio State, LSU is 1420 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 2: the twenty sixth as well, Boise State. If you want 1421 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 2: to hear about Ashton genty and how great he looks, 1422 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 2: because he'll look incredible, no doubt. Twenty seventh, Texas A 1423 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 2: and m Notre Dame, Florida. But yeah, so just so 1424 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: you know, all of this is available online. You can 1425 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 2: go look at the entire list yourself. But just to 1426 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 2: keep in mind, Pro Days are around the corner. We'll 1427 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 2: have some stuff on the big twelve Pro Day coming 1428 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 2: up Thursday. But again it's gonna be our one month 1429 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 2: out mock, so we'll have a full first round mock 1430 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 2: for you on Monday or excuse me, on Thursday. Excited 1431 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 2: about that gets you ready for the final month push 1432 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 2: into the NFL Draft. That's gonna do it for us 1433 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 2: today though for Tommy Arish, Brian brought us Fox, Lombardi, 1434 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 2: Bobby Belt, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman 1435 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,919 Speaker 2: saying so long from the draft show. We will see 1436 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 2: you on Thursday. 1437 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1438 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.