1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hartunger. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This episode one hundred and seventy, which 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: is first airing in early November, we are going to 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: be interviewing Clara Tansey, who is the author of Dinner Uncomplicated, 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: which is a wonderful new cookbook that Sarah and I 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: can recommend for people who are trying to get dinner 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: on the table and busy life, busy families. So, Sarah, 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: I know you track your meals, so we thought we'd 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: talk about what we've been eating lately. And Sarah in 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: fact can tell you in detail if you would ask 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: me to how I spent you know, October sixteenth, you 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: know whatever, two thousands. Actually, like multiple ways I could 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: look this up because I also tend to. So we 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: do put all of our meals with the kids' activities 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: on like a whiteboard and then I snap a picture 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: of it and send it to my husband and our 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: nana each week, so like we know times and cooking 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. So I have that, plus 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: I write it my planner, So yes, I have like 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: many ways of looking at it. One of my favorite 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: episodes of I think it's the Girl's next Door podcast 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: where they do this is they'll like go through a 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: week of dinners like randomly, like this is what we ate. 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: Maybe it was mom our as well. I think one 33 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: of them have done it after the other one did it, 34 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: So I thought we should open the episode and do 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: a similar thing and just talk about what we ate 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: in the last week. So yes, do it. Yeah, So, 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: as we're recording this, it's mid October, and if we 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: go back to last Thursday, we had a turkey chili 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: with cheese. You know what I don't. I honestly don't 40 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: know which recipe was used, because I wanted it to 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: be this pumpkin turkey chili from Real Simple. But there's 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: been like a run on pumpkin and I can't find 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: it at all. I don't know if it's a national 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: shortage or just like it's not making it down to Florida, 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: but like I cannot buy pumpkins. So we just had 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: a different one and I served it with tortilla chips 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: and avocados, and the big kids really like this. Genevieve 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: was a little picky with anything that's kind of tomato based, 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: so I think she ate like a snackplate of the 50 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: cheese and the avocado and the chips, and maybe I 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: took some of the beans out of the chili and 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: the meat and like put them on the plate. So 53 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: that was Thursday. Friday was really boring because we ate 54 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: the same thing because we have a lot of leftovers 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: in our house. And I added goldfish instead of the 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: chips for the kids, which was a very popular hit. 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: So that works actually pretty well, like the little cheesy 58 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: gold flich flavor flavor went with it. On Saturday, Josh 59 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: was on call and actually he did not make it 60 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: home for takeout night, which is really sad because usually 61 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: when he's on call, he at least can make it 62 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: for dinner. But in this particular one he was not 63 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: able to because his work has been insane lately, and 64 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: we ordered pizza and we had it delivered with salad, 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: and then because he wasn't there in part, we had 66 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: like so much extra pizza. And now my freezer is 67 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: full of pizza. So that's cool on Sunday. You're gonna 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: hear about this later in the episode. But I made 69 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: the butter tofu from our guest's cookbook and served it 70 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: with rice and broccoli. However, I was not living a 71 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: fantasy life where I thought the kids were gonna eat 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: butter tofu, even though they're not that selective. This was 73 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: just like a little bit beyond what I would expect. 74 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: So I did make a box of frozen chicken nuggets 75 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: for them, which I rarely made make, and therefore they 76 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: were like enamored with these chicken nuggets. On Monday, we 77 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: had which Arnani cooked sweet potato chicken curry with none, 78 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: which was I loved it. The kids did not like it. Unfortunately, 79 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: my youngest one did eat it because we told her 80 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the sweet potato was pumpkin, and apparently she thought that 81 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: was cool, like for Halloween anyway. And then yesterday I 82 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: think they had or Tuesday a fried egg on rice 83 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: with snappeas because again they wouldn't eat that curry, and 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we'd planned. I had left and 85 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: then yesterday, Laura, You're gonna like die when you hear 86 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: this is one of my kid's favorite things, which is 87 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: really random, but they really like this chickpea and kale 88 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: soup with parmechan. You can't see Laura, but she's making 89 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: an ugly face. I don't know why, like they won't 90 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: eat certain things, but that they actually, all three of 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: them will eat, and like, so we had that and 92 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: I served it with simpita and they eat that sounds lovely. 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: I'd eat it, you know, I know you would eat it. 94 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: I would eat it. So I don't actually track my meals, 95 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: but I can remember from the last week, and so 96 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll just sort of talk through the week that we're in. 97 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Monday night, Michael and I went out for our first 98 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: date night in seven months, so that was fairly exciting. 99 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: We have childcare until seven on Mondays, so it worked 100 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: to go for a quick dinner at six and we 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: went and got Mexican food Margarita's. On Monday night, Margarita's 102 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: just makes Monday night every seals so much better. So 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: that was great. I have no idea what the kids ate. 104 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: They were probably that same of chicken nuggets, which we 105 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: don't view as a rare thing, so but they still 106 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: like them. Tuesday, we had one of our sun Basket 107 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: meal kits. We get two sun Basket Meal kits per week. 108 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: This was chili made with It was like a chorizo 109 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: type chili with pumpkin seeds and coconut cream, and I 110 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: liked it. It was also incredibly spicy, and we only 111 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: put like half the chili in that it was calling 112 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: for and it was still just like I mean, our 113 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: noses were running like crazy. The kids obviously didn't eat 114 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: that either. I don't even good though, I feel what 115 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: they ate. Wednesday, so that's Michael cooked the second sun 116 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Basket kit, which was turkey kebabs with squash and carrot 117 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: ribbons with a Mediterranean dressing. It was good. I enjoyed it. 118 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: The kids had something else Thursday. I think we're going 119 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: to have we have some roast. We have all this 120 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: acorn squash from I also get this hungry harvet box. 121 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: Every other week we get a box it's like twenty 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: five bucks if people want to sign up for this, 123 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: but it's like a slightly damaged or irregular produce, and 124 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: the idea is that you are creating a market for 125 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: these goods that can't be sold in the supermarket but 126 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: are still good. I mean, it tastes perfectly fine if 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: your acorn squash has a slight blemish on it or 128 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: is shaped funny. So we're gonna have roasted squash and 129 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: probably just some sort of protein. And we had a 130 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: lot of chicken breasts in the house or possibly sausages 131 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: or something, I'm not really sure. Friday, we tend to 132 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: do pizza, make your own pizza with dough and cheese 133 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: and sauce and stuff, or we do Dojiorna's. We always 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: have those in the Fraser. Saturday, lately we've been doing 135 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: football fair chicken wings, nachos, you know, watching Texas A 136 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: and M football games. It's sort of a fall tradition 137 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: on Saturdays, but we time shifted, so it's like we've 138 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: taped it from earlier the day because we can never 139 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: actually go, you know, watch it at the time when 140 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: it's so we do it at night. Sunday is when 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: we just have to figure out if Michael has bought 142 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: stuff in his weekly grocery chip. That's good. We do that. 143 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Last week we did brats for the adults and hot 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: dogs for the kids, plus corn and tomato salads, so 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: that's pretty standard kind of Sunday thing. The kids always 146 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: have something that's either chicken nuggets, pasta pizza, hot dogs 147 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: like you know, last night they had some outlier kid 148 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: that's more of a well, Sam is slightly more of 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: an outlier, though he still doesn't really like our stuff. 150 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he'll eat the tomato salads, he'll eat whatever 151 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: veggies we tend to put on his plate. He likes 152 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: stronger stuff like Bosomic vinegar and pickles and mustard, but 153 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: he's still not really I mean, he's given more to 154 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: the kids stuff than ours. He doesn't really want to 155 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: try our stuff, So there we go. I'm kind of 156 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: past the point of caring about that, but anyway, that's 157 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: what we're eating these days. I love it. Your football 158 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: night in particular sounds really fun and cozy and yeah, 159 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: no I like it. My kids probably like the football 160 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: fair right, well, they don't eat the chicken wings. They 161 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: won't eat the chicken wings, but they'll eat the nachos obviously, 162 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: So we tell you wings and nuggets and nachos exactly, exactly. 163 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's hear what Claire has to say 164 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: about all this. Well, Sarah and I are very excited 165 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: to welcome Claire Tansey to the program. She is the 166 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: author of the cookbook Dinner Uncomplicated, and she has some 167 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: great advice for us on how to make dinner less 168 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: well complicated. So Clara, can you introduce yourself to our listeners. Well, Hi, yeah, 169 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: So I'm Claire. I am a mom of one eight 170 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: year old. I'm married. I live in Toronto, Canada, and 171 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: I've been a magazine editor in the food world, and 172 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: a chef and a restaurant critic and kind of any 173 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: job you can think of that has to do with food. 174 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: And in twenty sixteen, I kind of quit my big 175 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: corporate job and decided to start doing things for myself. 176 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Started essentially my own business called Claire Tansy's Kitchen, and 177 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: I launched my first book, which is called Uncomplicated in 178 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. And this is my new book, Dinner Uncomplicated, 179 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: So I guess the second in the series, and it 180 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: just came out last month, and I have to say 181 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: that both Laura and I ordered copies of this book, 182 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: and it's really funny. Claire actually graciously offered to send it. 183 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: We're like too late. We already ordered it because it 184 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: looks so good that we both wanted it like asap, 185 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: and it has lived up to its title. And so 186 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about some specific recipes 187 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: in that book and how awesome it is. But that 188 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: is great. So you've been kind of living the freelance 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: own company lifestyle now and your son is how old? 190 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: He's eight? So he just started grade three the chaos 191 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: that is this year. He just started grade three. Yeah, 192 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: and he's our only kid and he's a good boy 193 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: most of the time. Awesome. Well, we will want to 194 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: hear a little bit about since you don't have experience 195 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: in feeding kids, and kids who may or may not 196 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: be more soive about what they eat will definitely want 197 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: to you to share some wisdom around that. But first, 198 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: you promised to make dinner easier for our listeners, and 199 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I know that you know on this podcast we have 200 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: a lot of very busy women making it work. Some 201 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: of them have help with cooking, some of them absolutely 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: do not. Some of them have their kids doing some 203 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: of the cooking. So tell us from your perspective, how 204 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: do we make dinner easier? Yes, this is the work 205 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: of my life, is making dinner easier. I really do. 206 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I believe so strongly that dinner doesn't have to be 207 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: complicated to be delicious. It can also be actually the 208 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: best part of our day, and it can lead to 209 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: so many incredible benefits and really, without being too fancy, 210 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: it could be grill cheese sandwiches. And you know, there 211 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: are scientific studies that prove that having dinner together with 212 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: your family, no matter how simple it is, if it's 213 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: most nights of the week, you are getting benefits in 214 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: terms of your physical health, your mental health, your financial health, 215 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: the planets health, but best of all, in those family relationships. 216 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: So I wanted to figure out a way to make 217 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: that dinner ritual easier and more fun. And the way 218 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: you do that is to reduce the stress around it. 219 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: So this book in particular, is divided up by time, 220 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: how much time each recipe takes to cook, because that 221 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: was always pre COVID, that was always the number one 222 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: obstacle that people came to me with right, like, oh, 223 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't have time to cook. I don't have time 224 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: to cook. So I thought, well, okay, let's divide up 225 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: to chapters so that the first chapter is fifteen minute recipes. 226 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: And I don't mean like fifteen minute recipes like you 227 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: may have seen on TV, like this is with nothing prepared, 228 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: with the oven not preheated, like you walk into your kitchen. 229 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: I set a timer for myself when I'm developing these recipes, 230 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: and you're eating in fifteen minutes, So you know, a 231 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: bunch of those recipes because we all need those. No 232 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: matter who you are, you need those quick recipes. And 233 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: then the rest of the chapters kind of fall into line. 234 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: There's a make ahead chapter. There's a big chapter on 235 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: how to stalk the freezer in the really the smartest way, 236 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: I call it Sunday stash. There's a set it and 237 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: forget it chapter. So maybe you can take ten minutes 238 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: in the morning chuck something in the slow cooker, or 239 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: maybe take ten minutes just before you go pick up 240 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the kids and then throw something in the oven for 241 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: an hour. So it's those sort of like finding those 242 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 1: pockets of time. And I really wanted to set it 243 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: up this way, because I know that that's how my 244 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: life is. There are some nights when I can take 245 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: forty five minutes and listen to the radio and enjoy 246 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: my night, But then there are other nights when we 247 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: need to eat, like actually five minutes ago. We have 248 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: had many of those nights. Yes, I love that they're separated. 249 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: And I have not made that many recipes yet. I've 250 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: made two so far. But I was flipping through that 251 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: really quick section because that does tend to be our 252 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: scenario sometimes, and they do indeed look pretty quick, so 253 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. Yeah, I'm always a little put 254 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: off with the recipes that are like it's it's twenty minutes. 255 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: It's like, no, it's not, yeah, twenty minutes yet, that's right. 256 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: It was really fun developing that chapter because so I've 257 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: been a recipe developer and a recipe tester for almost 258 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: twenty years, so I really had to lean on every 259 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: shortcut I could think of, every trick, every kind of 260 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: like corner I could cut with still having incredible results, right, 261 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: So it was really fun, Like I truly I would 262 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: walk into the kitchen, I would start a stop watch, 263 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: and if I wasn't eating at fifteen minutes. I had 264 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: to either revamp the recipe or cut it from the chapter. 265 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: I love that. So, Clara, you recommend knowing, you know, 266 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: three very simple recipes and always having the ingredients on 267 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: hand as a way to sort of put off the 268 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,119 Speaker 1: dinner emergency issue. So what are your three simple recipes 269 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: that you always have the stuff on hand? And if 270 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: you have, you know, any others you suggest for listeners too, 271 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear those. Yeah, these are my back 272 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: pocket dinners and they have saved me more time, Like 273 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: they save you from takeout right or they save you 274 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: from from not from having cereal for dinner. I guess, 275 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: So which is that does happen sometimes? So my three 276 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: backprocket dinners are there's a pasta with butter and parmesan. 277 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: I know, it sounds like the simplest recipe. It has 278 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: been consisted. It was on my website it was that's 279 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: actually what my kids order all the time in restaurant, 280 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: but my mind too, and it's consistently the number one 281 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: visited recipe on my website year after year, month after 282 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: month after month. So I'm like, all right, well putting 283 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: it in here, because you know what pasta's packed with protein. 284 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Butter and parmesan are good ingredients. Let's get them on there. 285 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: We eat that a lot. Sometimes my husband and I 286 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: will put ooh, peas and maybe chili flakes in it. 287 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: We have passed with butter and parm I also always 288 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: keep a can of black beans in the cupboard, and 289 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: I always have tortillas or wraps or some kind of 290 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: bread product and cheese in the fridge, and so I 291 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: can make black bean casadias in the blink of an eye. 292 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: And our third one is usually it's of an egg 293 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: based so because we always have eggs. And so there's 294 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: something in the new book called a Dutch baby. It's 295 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: a cheesy Dutch baby, and it's imagined like a pancake 296 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: and a crape and an omelet kind of get together. 297 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: You cook it in a big cast iron pan. It's 298 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: for ingredients. It puffs up in this beautiful, magical, scientific 299 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: experiment kind of a thing, looks like either you're familiar 300 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: with popovers or Yorksh're pudding and packed with cheese and eggs, 301 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: and it's just so yummy and it's ready so fast. 302 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: And I serve that with a salad, and we all 303 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: love that. So those are my three back pocket dinners. 304 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: I always say something based on pasta is really smart 305 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: because that's something you can just keep in the pantry. 306 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Something based on eggs is usually pretty smart because again 307 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: we almost always have eggs in the kitchen. And then 308 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: something based on like a can or something, whether it's 309 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: a can of tune or a can of black beans 310 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: or a can of chick peas, those are really smart 311 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: backpocket dinners. My kids in particular, love black bean anything, 312 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's great. And then you can you can 313 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: you can stockpile them exactly. Yeah, twelve, sure, I think 314 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: my children have not allowed a black bean to pass 315 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: their lips. But we will get to that. Yeah, let's 316 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: actually take a quick break and then we will be 317 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: right back and we can talk a little bit about 318 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: selective eating. All right, we are back, and while we 319 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: left off, we were talking a little bit about how 320 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: some kids tend to be. You know, the word pickiness 321 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: has actually gone out of style because it has a 322 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a negative connotation. I prefer the word selective, 323 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: even though my kids are actually not that selective. But still, 324 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: for my patients and in general, Claire, I want you 325 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about your super taster tendency 326 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: and how that might play into selective eating, and then 327 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: some of the strategies that you have used for your 328 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: son to get him to venture out a little bit. 329 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: So I'm with you, Picky eating to me is just 330 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: normal normal kids. You know, if you look at evolution, 331 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: it actually makes a lot of evolutionary sense for kids 332 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: to become very selective and very choosy about what they 333 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: eat at around the same age that if you think 334 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: about our ancestors thousands and thousands of years ago, at 335 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: the same age that they be walking away from the 336 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: group for the first time, so they have to naturally 337 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: become fussy and selective so that they don't eat poison 338 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: berries and they don't kill off the line. Right. So 339 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: if you think about it in that way, piggy eating, 340 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: selective eating is absolutely normal behavior for kids. Now. The 341 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: other thing is kids, again back to that evolutionary thing, 342 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: all their tongues want at that age in their life 343 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: is a sweetness. So they just want like, they just 344 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: want carbohydrates, right, because that's what your body needs for energy, 345 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: and so that means, yeah, they just want so I 346 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: sauce or bread and butter or plain pasta with butter 347 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: and parmesan. That is totally normal, totally normal behavior. Bitter 348 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: flavors and more complex flavors and stronger flavors like you know, 349 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: sardines and blue cheese, those come along as our brains 350 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: get evolved, and we can train ourselves to learn to 351 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: love those things. Now that said, as you mentioned, Sarah, 352 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: I am a super taster. So that's a genetic condition 353 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: where I have more taste buds on my tongue than 354 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: the average person. They call it super taster, but there's 355 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: not really too much super about it, because it means 356 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: that you taste things really, really intensely, and I've noticed 357 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: it my whole life. But then when I was pregnant, 358 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: Holy Molly, it was like supercharged and I couldn't smell 359 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: eggs cooking without feeling nauseous. And then the other two 360 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: flavors that really started to bother me when I was 361 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: pregnant was blue cheese and lamb, so two flavors that 362 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: I normally love but which we would all agree are 363 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: kind of stronger flavors. And it was almost a physical reaction, 364 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: like I couldn't even be in the room if they 365 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: were being cooked, and so that stayed with me after 366 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: I had the baby. And now eight years later and 367 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm still like, I still have that super taste issue, 368 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: which means there are some bitter foods I really can't eat. 369 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: There are some really pungent foods that I can't eat. 370 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: I just they're just too strong for me. It's like 371 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: I get a sensory overload, so really strong blue cheese, 372 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: something like a pickled egg. You know, it's just too 373 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: much for me. Or my husband really loves things like 374 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: kidneys and liver, and that is an absolute zero for me. Now, 375 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: I told you it's genetic. And so guess who got it? 376 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: My kid, My eight year old kid. And from the 377 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: time he was four, maybe even younger than four, he 378 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: can taste the difference completely unprompted, between an organic chicken 379 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: and a supermarket chicken. And so you think, oh, fantastic, 380 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: isn't that great? Wow? What a great No, that is 381 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: a per problem for a parent, like a bad problem. 382 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: He loves sausages. I got sausages from our local Italian grocer. 383 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: They put fennel seeds in them. He tells me. It 384 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: tastes like black licorice. Why can't eat this, it tastes 385 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: like black liquorice. He's right, He's right. It doesn't make 386 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: it any less annoying. So so I've realized pretty early 387 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: on that this was going to be well an issue, 388 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: you know what. I didn't want to make it a 389 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: big deal, but it's an issue. And I studied a 390 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: lot about children and selective eating and children's palettes, and 391 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: I did a lot of deep research onto it, into it, 392 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: and came up with this sus which is a philosophy 393 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: that's pretty common now amongst dieticians and educators when it 394 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: comes to kids eating. Which is the philosophy is that 395 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: it's the parent's responsibility to provide nutritious meals in a 396 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: pleasant environment at regular intervals, and it is the child's 397 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: responsibility to decide what, if, and in fact how much 398 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: to eat. So what that looks like in practical terms 399 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: at our table is that everything is always served family style, 400 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: so stuff is right in the middle of the table. 401 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: It's great for kids, even quite young, to learn how 402 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: to serve themselves. Is really good for their fine motor skills. Actually, yeah, 403 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: it's going to be a bit messy, but hey, you know, 404 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: put it, throw a tarp down, like it's going to 405 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: be okay. It's better that. And there's always something in 406 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: that kind of family style buffet that I know my 407 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: kid will eat my friends that has been crackers in butter, 408 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: many a nite, bread and butter, plain rice, plain pasta, 409 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: plain French, homemade French fries. So it's that is sort 410 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: of the anchor of the dinner. And then there's no pressure. 411 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: You don't have to eat it. It's a liberating phrase, 412 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to eat it, And instead we focus 413 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: on the dinner table being a place where the three 414 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: of us come together every day almost without fail, and 415 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: we're there together in a kind of a low stress, 416 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: low stakes environment, and that is where we're getting the benefit. 417 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: So that's where we're building those family relationships. We are 418 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: saving money. It's good for our mental health, it's good 419 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: for our physical health, it's good for the planet. And 420 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: it's that repetitious, near on boring ritual that really is 421 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: the foundation of our family. And I really trust that 422 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: eventually my son is going to see his dad and 423 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: I enjoying ourselves tasting a lot of different foods and 424 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: in an environment where there's no pressure, he's going to 425 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: feel comfortable to reach out and start tasting some stuff 426 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: that sounds yeah, like a good I'm sure it will. 427 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure it will get there. I have to admit, 428 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: as I'm listening to you, I'm like, oh, that sounds 429 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: so nice, because I mean, in our house, we don't 430 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: typically gather for dinner. I gather sometimes with the kids, 431 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: depending on my time frame. My husband is rarely he's 432 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: a surgeon and rarely done in time for dinner except 433 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: on the weekends, in which case, especially with date night 434 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: being a thing of the past lately, we typically do 435 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: eat dinner together as a family on Saturday and Sunday, 436 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: and I do. I will say, I enjoy that ritual. 437 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: So I guess I will say to listeners, if you're 438 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: in my boat, and it can't be an everyday thing, 439 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: or if it has to be in some kind of 440 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: altered form, like maybe it's just the mom and the 441 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: kids someday and the other half the kids you know, 442 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: the other day. Whatever it is, it doesn't mean there 443 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: can be some healing powers to it. Because I love 444 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: the image what you said, you know, see at the 445 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: end of the day together and no pressure. Yeah, with it, 446 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: And and to your point, yet if it's more you 447 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: don't want people kind of sitting in front of the 448 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: TV and eating or grabbing a snack and then lying 449 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: in their bed doing their homework and eating. Like if 450 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: everybody's in the house at something that looks like either 451 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: dinner time or lunchtime or breakfast time, get together at 452 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: the table, turn off those screens, and you know, just 453 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: spend some time together. Now, I'm not going to say 454 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: those conversations are always meaningful, especially now that we've been 455 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: trapped together for seven months. Early in the pandon, my 456 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: husband was building a shed. It was all he could 457 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: talk about. My son was playing hours and hours and 458 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: hours of Minecraft, the video game Minecraft, all he could 459 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: talk about. And I sat at the table and said 460 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: to them, that's it. Not one more word about sheds 461 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: or Minecraft at this table, dead silence for the rest 462 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: of the dinner. We're like, you took away our topics. 463 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like, there's nothing else I'd rather have silence 464 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: than to listen about. Exactly just funny, very funny and 465 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: cute stage where like the big kids will talk about Minecraft, 466 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: and then like our youngest, because she just wants to 467 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: be involved, we'll start talking about Minecraft even though she 468 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: has no idea, like, she'll just join in like oh yeah, 469 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: and minecraft we're like, you don't play, I feel like you. So, 470 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: speaking of family meals, you say you post your family's 471 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: favorite meals somewhere and that this helps you with planning. 472 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: It seems like a very simple hack. But why why 473 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: is this so important to do? Yeah? I love these 474 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: analog hacks. So we it's literally a piece of loose 475 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: leaf paper and we all contribute to it and we 476 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: write down what our favorite meals are and we have 477 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: a list. Now, I don't know, our list is probably 478 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: about eighteen or so meals, and it's meals that we 479 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: all like or that it's somebody's favorite. And I keep 480 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: that tape to the inside of my cupboard door because 481 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, one of the big roadblocks between an average 482 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: person and making dinner can be I don't have an 483 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: idea of what to make, and if you have this 484 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 1: very simple, very easy to access list of meals that 485 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: you know you and your family like, it can just 486 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: overcome that roadblock in a heartbeat. So if you're like, 487 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: oh gosh, it's two o'clock, what's for dinner? And you 488 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: look at that list and quickly go, oh, spaghetti meatballs. Yep, 489 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: you know what, I've got some ground meat, And so 490 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: it can kind of just be that little stepping stone 491 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: over one of those big roadblocks. There are five big 492 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: roadblocks to dinner, and not having enough time and not 493 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: having an idea are the two most like worst ones 494 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: that are going to provide you from making dinner. What 495 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: are the other three, now you set yourself up, Yeah, 496 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: of course, Number three is not having the groceries, like 497 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: you don't have the stuff in the house for what 498 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: you want to make. Number four is not having the 499 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: right equipment or feeling like you don't have the skills. 500 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: And that can be you know that something requires you 501 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: dispatchcock a chicken, or it requires a spiralizer and you 502 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: don't have one. And the fifth one, the fifth one 503 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: is actually the toughest one to overcome because it's what 504 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: we just talked about. It. It's what I call being 505 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: out of sink when not everybody will eat the same 506 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: thing at the same table. And so that can be 507 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: a selective eater as a kid. It can be a 508 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: teenager who's decided to become vegan. It can be a 509 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: spouse who's given up carbs because they're training for a marathon. 510 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: It can be a number of different things. But when 511 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: you don't have when you don't have everybody willing to 512 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: eat the same meal, it can be pretty hard to 513 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: be motivated to cook anything. Yeah, the multiple meals thing 514 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: is always annoying, but you know, we've just you know, 515 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: I like to think of it in terms of the 516 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: there's always something on the table that they like. I 517 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: mean the fact that I actually making pasta separately from 518 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: a dinner. It's not that it's a separate dinner, it's 519 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: just that there's something on the table that they like. 520 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: I love all food, and it's sorts of great annoyance 521 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: to me. My children do not love all food. But 522 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, one of the hacks that I know many 523 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: of our listeners rely on, and you've mentioned as well 524 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: as the whole rotisserie chicken, which is not something we 525 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: ever bought growing up. But I have come to see 526 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: the genius in I wonder if you could tell us 527 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: a little bit about your favorite rotisserie chicken. Oh love 528 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: love rotissary chicken. And I was determined with this book 529 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: to come up with at least a couple of recipes 530 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: that could take that rotisserie chicken and within fifteen minutes 531 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: turn it into something that wasn't just picking apart the 532 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: chicken with your fingers and maybe spread and mayonnaise on 533 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: a piece of toast with it. So one of the 534 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: ways I like to elevate it is to make couscouscouse 535 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: takes five minutes. You know, you just boil some water 536 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: and into the couscous. If you just add like a 537 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: handful of either raisins or currants and a few spices, 538 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: you can actually turn that into what I call a 539 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: couscous pee leaf. Spread that out on a tato on 540 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: a platter, and then carve up the chicken and serve 541 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: it over top. It is magnificent, and it makes that 542 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: ro tissery chicken feel like it's going on the prom 543 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: like it is so delicious and really truly five minutes 544 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: to make the couscous and then maybe five minutes to 545 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: carve up the chicken you're eating, so really really simple. 546 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: The other one, which actually is my current favorite recipe 547 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: right now, although I love them all, love them all, 548 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: but this one's my current favorite. It's it's a sesame 549 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: ramen salad with chicken. So I told you in that 550 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: fifteen minute chapter. I was looking for every shortcut and 551 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: every trick I could in the book, and I realized 552 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: that ramen noodles, the staple of my university college days, 553 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: were like, they cook in three minutes. So if you 554 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: take if you but get yourself some raw neuds, throw 555 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: out this seasoning packet. You don't need that. Just boil 556 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: them up, and then I make a pretty simple but 557 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: yummy sauce with some natural peanut butter and soy sauce 558 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: and a bit of vinegar and a bit of ginger. 559 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: Mix that up, toss that with these noodles, and then 560 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: add some sliced rotisserie chicken and a little bit of 561 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: sliced celery. I've always got celery in the fridge. It 562 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: seems to last forever, but it's fantastic. It's got such 563 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: great crunch and brightness. That is a spectacular dinner. So 564 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: you've got these gorgeous ramen noodles. They're super fun to 565 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: look at, Like kids love ramen noodles right there else squidly, 566 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: and this incredible sauce that truly tastes like it came 567 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: from a gourmet shop. The tender chicken, the crunch from 568 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: the celery. It's ready in ten minutes. It is so 569 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: so yummy, you'll never feel like you're just eating grocery 570 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: stork shortcuts. Again, I'm totally gonna make that. I didn't 571 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: mention it yet, but one of the recipes that we 572 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: did try and my kids all raved about it, like 573 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: three for three gobbling it was the I think that's 574 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: called scallion salmon noodles, and it is also made with 575 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: ramen noodles, and you whip together a sauce and you 576 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: roast some salmon. You basically throw it all together and 577 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: like they wild. So I feel like this would probably 578 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: be even easier because users rochippery chicken, and probably as 579 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: much of a hit because I do know they've liked 580 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: peanut sauce in other forms before that salmon. That's salmon 581 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: with the scallion sauce. I don't get it, but it's 582 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: a huge hit with kids. People are emailing me just 583 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: yesterday saying, my kids are eating salmon and ramon. It's fantastic. 584 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: I love the noodles and they're nice and silky, and 585 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: that sauce has a little bit of sweetness to it, 586 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 1: but it's also savory, and I guess that helps them 587 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: to overlook the scallions, which is like my favorite part. 588 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: So there you go. So, Claire, if you are going 589 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: to do some prep on weekend, we have sort of 590 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: mixed feelings on this podcast about spending weekend time meal prepping. 591 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: But if you are in the mindset that you wish 592 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 1: to do that, what what are the most efficient, you know, 593 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: bang for your buck, things to actually do on the 594 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: weekend to get ahead for the week. I love that 595 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: you have mixed feelings. I have mixed feelings about it too, 596 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: So I thought, what's the that's the best use of 597 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: my time? If I can find an hour on the weekend. 598 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't really want to make, say like a batch 599 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: of chili and put in the freezer, because personally I 600 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 1: get tired of that. Either I get tired of it 601 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: or it just goes into the freezer and then it 602 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: never comes out again. So I thought, Okay, how about 603 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: instead I prep some building blocks for dinners. So that's 604 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: what the Sunday Stash chapter is about. And it's four 605 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: basic recipes that you can make in bulk. There's a 606 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: bologna sauce, There's a really simple parsley pesto so yummy. 607 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: There's a whole grain, so any whole grain could be brown, rice, 608 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: could be farro, could be barley. You cook in big batches, 609 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: and then there's a brothy bean. So you take dried beans, 610 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: cook them and make this lovely broth, very very simple. 611 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: Then you freeze those recipes in three separate portions, and 612 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: then what you get in the book is three different 613 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: ways to use those building blocks. So instead of just 614 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: making one meal and then having to eat that three times, 615 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: you're actually creating twelve different meals for yourself. So with 616 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: the pesto, for example, you made this really simple parsley pesto. 617 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean it takes ten minutes and honestly, it takes 618 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: the same amount of time to make a triple batch 619 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: as it does to make a single batch. Divide it 620 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: into three zip blocks, put in the freezer, and then 621 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: one night you can make roasted chicken breast with a 622 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: little bit of mozzarella and some pesto and tomato on it. 623 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: Another night you could do pasta with a bit of 624 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: spinach or greens and some pesto in there. And then 625 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: on the third night you can make something else with 626 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: pesto like you could do. I can't even remember what's 627 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: in the book now, but you'd have a third recipe. 628 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm actually now going to have to look it up. 629 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: It is ooh gosh, oh yes, it is cheesy pesto. 630 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: It is cheesy pesto and ham calzones. So a little 631 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: bit of store bought pizza do sorry for the delay there, 632 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: you know, and your brain won't allow you to do that, 633 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: and so you make Kelsones. So you've got three completely 634 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: different meals there that you've really made with one of 635 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: your building blocks, and it's the same with the other 636 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: building blocks that you're stuck in the freezer. So it's 637 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: really like prepping yourself for special different meals and not 638 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: just getting something made and then having to thought and 639 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: eat it again and again and again. Now, if that's 640 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: your jam, fantastic, I gotta recommend the ginger chicken meatballs 641 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: because they freeze like a dream and kids love them too, 642 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: and there's really simple glaze that goes with them. But 643 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: if not, then yeah, get some brothy beans on the go. 644 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: And then you've got all kinds of different options that 645 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: you can make, and you could actually use it as 646 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: part of your Sunday. If you did it on Sunday, 647 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: for example, make a nice, possible and yeasy, and then 648 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: say that a bit for later in the week from 649 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: the freezer exactly, or even two or three weeks from now, right, 650 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: Like I mean, ideally, if you are really doing it, 651 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: if you are really doing it in a smart way, ultimately, 652 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: by like the end of the month, you'd have seventeen 653 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: different things in your freezer. You just choose. We just 654 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: like being at the store. This is like the ultimate 655 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: goal there. Well, very cool, Sarah, Did you have any 656 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: other questions for Claire? What are you making for dinner tonight? 657 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: So it was Canadian Thanksgiving this past weekend, so she's 658 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: got leftovers. She's got leftovers. So even though it was 659 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: just three of us, we had a whole turkey and 660 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: a whole ham. So last night we had turkey pop pie. 661 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: And so tonight we are doing My husband is British, 662 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: so he wants something called ham, eggs and chips, and 663 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: so he's in charge. My friends and I will just 664 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: smile and nod and be very grateful that somebody else 665 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: did the cooking. Sounds lovely, well, Claire. We end with 666 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: our love of the week, which is something that is 667 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: really cool for us. This week, I can start and 668 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: Sarah can go next. To give you just a little 669 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: chance to think about it, I have been enjoying making 670 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: myself oatmeal for breakfast. I do quit cooking Quaker type stuff. 671 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: I mix in a little bit of granola and cut 672 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: up apples and peanut butter, and so it's just like 673 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: got everything in it, and you know, it's just a 674 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: powers me up for the rest of the day. How 675 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: about you, Sarah? Well, okay, I feel like I have 676 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to the other recipe that 677 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: I have made it from Claire's cookbook, which is the 678 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: Butter Tofu and was totally delicious. But I will also 679 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: do a mild spin on what Laura said and tell 680 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: you all that my new favorite cereal is Quaker Oatmeal 681 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: squares and I'm slightly obsessed with it, particularly the cinnamon flavor, 682 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: which feels very false. So there you go. I'm an 683 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: adult meeting quicker adult eating this syruy cereal in the morning. 684 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: That's awesome. How about you, Claire? Okay, Well, let's keep 685 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: it on theme. I was found myself wandering through the 686 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: grocery store the other night, I was actually shopping for work, 687 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: but I was hungry, and it's true, you know, you 688 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: should never grocery shop when you're hungry. And there I 689 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: was in the in the cereal aisle, and I was 690 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: attracted to this Kellogg's cereal that has coconut and cranberries 691 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: and almonds in it, and it was on sale. So 692 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: I bought a box of that, Ladies. I came right home, 693 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 1: I made myself a bowl of it. I sat down, 694 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: I watched some TV and had cereal in front of 695 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: the TV by myself. We know how the special those 696 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: moments can be, so I feel like could be repeated tonight, 697 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: maybe the next night too. That sounds pleasure. It's the 698 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: little things, all right. Well, Claire, thank you so much 699 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: for joining us, and for all our listeners. Please pick 700 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: up a copy of Dinner Uncomplicated, which is the newest 701 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: cookbook from Clara Tansey and Sarah can vouch that there's 702 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: some great recipes in there that her kids have been eating. 703 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: My kids are, you know, we're working progress, but her 704 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: kids will eat Clara's food, so that is a great 705 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: shout out for it. There. So Clara, thanks for joining us. 706 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: Such a pleasure. Thanks so much for having me. Guys. 707 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: All right, well, that was a wonderful episode with great 708 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: dinner ideas. I think we've all decided that it's perfectly 709 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: okay to serve butter and parmesan noodles because we have 710 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: an official, you know, food person making that for her family. 711 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: So our question this week is a little different. Comes 712 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: from a listener who says she comes from a traditional 713 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: family where women are expected to stay home full time 714 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: with their children, and even in her extended family, you 715 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 1: only think of a very small number of people who 716 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: work and raise kids simultaneously. This listener says she is 717 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: currently in medical school in hopes to one they have 718 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: a few kids while still working full time. She says 719 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: her family is actually supportive of her professional dreams, but 720 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: then not her dreams of being a mother. They'll make 721 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: comments like I'm not sure you'll have time to be 722 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: a good mom. How do you recommend dealing with comments 723 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: like this? Well, Sarah, since you are our resident physician 724 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: here with children, I thought maybe you could you could 725 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: give some insight into this. Yeah, I mean, well, I 726 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: think part of it. Laura and I both agree, which 727 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: is like, you know what they think they can think, 728 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: but you can surely prove them wrong, and hopefully over 729 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: time it won't matter as much what they initially thought anyway. 730 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: But I think you know, proving it by doing it, 731 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: and of course looking for support from colleagues, and especially 732 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: if you can find any colleagues with a similar cultural background, 733 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: and maybe you could even you know, mention that to 734 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: your family. Hey, this person is also ex I don't 735 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: know what this person's background is and has four kids 736 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: and is thriving and her kids are going to Harvard 737 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: or whatever whatever mark of success looks like in your 738 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: culture or background, and perhaps with some examples that may help. 739 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: But there's also just some aspect of like, you know, 740 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: once you're an adult, it is your life to live, 741 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: and hopefully they will still love you and you'll be 742 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: able to show them what is possible. Yeah, I just think, 743 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, one is like they. I mean, clearly, 744 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: it's like half the people going into medicine now are women, 745 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: and I think they're not even aware that there are 746 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: actually some real family friendly aspects of it. I mean, 747 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: this lady says she wants to work full time, but 748 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: in fact physicians have the ability usually to go part 749 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: time without a huge career penalty, which is not necessarily 750 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: the case for a great many other professions. And plus 751 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: it tends to pay pretty well even for part time work, 752 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: and so that's something that is you know, once you 753 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: get through the training, it's entirely different. But you know, 754 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: it's also like you have to live your own life. 755 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: I mean it part of being an adult is recognizing 756 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: that your relatives don't actually have to like your choices, 757 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: and like, nobody actually will ever like all of your choices, 758 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: and so what I mean it's like, ultimately people don't 759 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: care that much. I mean, they care about you, but 760 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: they're living their own lives too, and they're in their 761 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,959 Speaker 1: own little lives, and so whatever they're bringing to the table, 762 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: he they're probably not thinking about it day to day. 763 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: You're the one who's thinking about it, not them. They'll 764 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: just say something random based on whatever they're thinking at 765 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: the moment, but it's not like they're spending all their 766 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: time thinking about it. Nobody will ever like all your choices, 767 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: so you don't have to wear I mean, you can 768 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: always just parry back on any rude comments by saying, oh, well, 769 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, no one could ever live up to your example, 770 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: but I'll do my best when we get there. I mean, 771 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: these are theoretical children and a theoretical medical career that 772 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: don't actually even exist yet, so I think you know, 773 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: we can cross that bridge when we get to it. Well, 774 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: this has been best of both worlds. We've been interviewing 775 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: Clear Tansey about dinner Uncomplicated, sharing what we are eating 776 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: as well, and we will be back next week with 777 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: more on making work in life fit together. Thanks for listening. 778 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com 779 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you can 780 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has 781 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join us 782 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: next time for more on making work and life work together.