Speaker 1: Welcome back to another week Happy Hour listeners. Now, Rachel,
Speaker 1: the top of this episode really popped off because front
Speaker 1: and center we see this drama. We see this to
Speaker 1: be continued from last week with Bennett and Noah on
Speaker 1: this dreaded two on one, and we're definitely going to
Speaker 1: get into it today, but we're not going to do
Speaker 1: a full recap because we actually are going to have
Speaker 1: one of the men who was front and center in
Speaker 1: this drama, which is Noah himself. But before we bring
Speaker 1: him on, I know that I have to give the
Speaker 1: mic to you because you have a few special words prepared.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try not to lose it as I speak
Speaker 1: these special words. The time is Combecca. I've alluded to Kleenex.
Speaker 1: I don't have Kleenex. Sadly, I guess I'll just have
Speaker 1: to use my own shirt. But the time has come
Speaker 1: a day I thought I would never see, and now
Speaker 1: we'd just like to prepare for the moment. I'm already
Speaker 1: dressed in black, obviously for the occasion. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: on sunglasses because I'm not just I'm not quite sure
Speaker 1: how where my emotions are going to take me. But
Speaker 1: those of you watching I'm setting up a cross and
Speaker 1: athletic candle because we have some sad news to report today.
Speaker 1: In Battelns Embatturnation. Last night we lost someone great. And
Speaker 1: that's someone great was Bennett. Pause for dramatics. Now, I
Speaker 1: know we see Bennett pop up later in the episode,
Speaker 1: but let's just be ho. I said, Hey, looking good
Speaker 1: for Bennett. So rather than drag this out for a
Speaker 1: whole nother week, I'm just going to or maybe two,
Speaker 1: who knows. I don't know how long Ben it is saying,
Speaker 1: but I'm just going to nip it in the bud
Speaker 1: now because I don't think my emotions can take another
Speaker 1: few weeks of this. We lost one of the most charismatic, condescending, charming,
Speaker 1: and coolest cats to ever Grace Vatchurnation. The other men
Speaker 1: wish they could Bennett. We shall miss your wit, your jobs,
Speaker 1: your itms, your emotional intelligence, and your chateau. Bennett. I
Speaker 1: feel you were misunderstood. But if no one else understood you,
Speaker 1: I did. I mean, Bennett, who even cares that you
Speaker 1: could spell the word limousine? I can't either, but you
Speaker 1: know what you can spell? Bennett. Car Service, private Jet,
Speaker 1: wealth Management, and Harvard, who cares that you couldn't solve
Speaker 1: a problem that had to do with time, that had
Speaker 1: to do with clocks. You know what you can solve.
Speaker 1: You know what. You can read somebody's financial statements, assets,
Speaker 1: You can manage billions and billions of dollars. Bennett, Bennett,
Speaker 1: you will be missed. You were one of a kind.
Speaker 1: You were in a league of your own. And if
Speaker 1: there was a hall of fame of vatterination, gosh darneth,
Speaker 1: you'd be in it. There will never be another Minnett,
Speaker 1: and we wish you well on your next journey. And
Speaker 1: in saying that, I'd like to close with this, how
Speaker 1: do I say goodbye to the time we had? The
Speaker 1: good times that made me laugh outweigh the bad. I
Speaker 1: thought we'd get to see forever, But forever's gone away.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday. Good Rachel,
Speaker 1: Oh God, that was beautiful. I have tears in my
Speaker 1: eyes for that lovely eulogy. And I just have to
Speaker 1: say now, Bennett is a lucky man to get those
Speaker 1: words from you. And if and when I do die, Rachel,
Speaker 1: will you please give the eulogy at my funeral? Back?
Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about the moment. I
Speaker 1: don't want to think about that time to come. But
Speaker 1: minnow is listen into your words, and she is gazing
Speaker 1: longingly out the window for what could have been. Oh,
Speaker 1: that gets been rough, Rachel. I know you know. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll take a moment. Everyone, please give us a few
Speaker 1: moments of silence for Bennett and what could have been.
Speaker 1: And now we toast and drink this once for you
Speaker 1: Bennett or whenever for Bennett. Everyone, you know, as sad
Speaker 1: as it was to see Bennett go for you know,
Speaker 1: a short amount of time last night, I will say
Speaker 1: he has a bright future ahead of him, the horizons
Speaker 1: that Bennett will grace, perhaps on Paradise, perhaps on dare
Speaker 1: I say something bigger and better, such as Boucher one day,
Speaker 1: that that gives me hope, and that that little light
Speaker 1: will be carried in my heart. Same if you're watching this,
Speaker 1: you're watching me wipe away my non existent tears. Very
Speaker 1: sim learn to how Noah did when he was talking
Speaker 1: to Tasia and the one on one Did you notice
Speaker 1: that he had no tears? And I'm bitter, I'm upset.
Speaker 1: It is Noah who got my minnets set Oh and
Speaker 1: I thought over it. I don't think a lot of
Speaker 1: the guys have shed very many tears this season, not
Speaker 1: over like issues with Tatia. It's like personal issues, right,
Speaker 1: Like they cried over some other things that have that
Speaker 1: have gone on in their lives. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: know we're not going to do a full recap, but
Speaker 1: there were some things that stood out. This was like
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a chill episode. It started off,
Speaker 1: you know, with a lot of drama, as we saw
Speaker 1: the Bennett went home. That's how I'm referring to him now,
Speaker 1: is the Bennett he went home Noah State. Not over that.
Speaker 1: But the rest of the episode was kind of you know,
Speaker 1: we saw some things, we learned a little bit more
Speaker 1: about the men m and you know it's I feel
Speaker 1: like now we're just getting back into like the typical
Speaker 1: Bachelor of fashion. It really is like the There was
Speaker 1: a little drama, there was a little romance. There was
Speaker 1: a little bit of scandal in regards to like cheating
Speaker 1: and pasts. But yeah, this this episode, besides the very
Speaker 1: beginning and the very end, was pretty just mediocre in
Speaker 1: my book. Yeah. Yeah, I mean we had the lie
Speaker 1: detector test, and there is one thing I want to
Speaker 1: talk about because it's a topic of conversation that it's
Speaker 1: not new, but Tasia brought it up, and I think
Speaker 1: that it's relevant and I'm very curious. I feel like
Speaker 1: our bachel are happy hours listeners are gonna want to
Speaker 1: hear our take on this. You know, we saw the
Speaker 1: lie detector test, aka the light bulb test. That's just
Speaker 1: what I'm going to call it, because that's what it was,
Speaker 1: just lightbulbs going off whenever they wanted to. But Zach revealed,
Speaker 1: you know, Tasia asked Zach the question, have you ever cheated?
Speaker 1: And without hesitation, Zach said yes, And then Tatia is
Speaker 1: really bothered by the fact that he has cheated before,
Speaker 1: and she says the comment that, you know, she believes
Speaker 1: that once you're a cheater, you're always a cheater. And
Speaker 1: I'm very curious with you, Becca, where do you stand
Speaker 1: on that? Because people have strong opinions about this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I so funny enough. I actually well before we get
Speaker 1: into the cheating, and I will say, I listen to
Speaker 1: a lot of crime Juckey podcast and they always say,
Speaker 1: don't trust a lite detector, so don't take it. So
Speaker 1: when I saw this I'd be like, m I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit I'm I'm playing in the fifth I'm sitting this
Speaker 1: one out. But they're not admissible in court. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: don't trust a lie detector. But in terms of the cheating,
Speaker 1: I actually just had this conversation with Caitlin Bristow because
Speaker 1: we were discussing this very topic and in this situation Potasia,
Speaker 1: and I think everybody has a past, and as we've seen,
Speaker 1: like most of these men are a little bit older,
Speaker 1: they're more mature. I'm sure that they've had a few,
Speaker 1: if not more, relationships under their belt. And I don't
Speaker 1: agree with the phrase or the same wants a cheater
Speaker 1: always a cheater, because I think for any sort of
Speaker 1: growth in life, you have to learn from your mistakes
Speaker 1: and own up to your actions and take that to
Speaker 1: heart if you truly want to change as a person.
Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, everyone has a past,
Speaker 1: and everyone has made certain mistakes in life. And so
Speaker 1: I think if somebody were to admit that, like say
Speaker 1: somebody were to come to me in a new relationship
Speaker 1: and say, you know, I did cheat in the past,
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, well why what happened? And like if
Speaker 1: you vowed to be loyal to me and committed to me.
Speaker 1: That's all that matters, you know, Like, I wasn't perfect
Speaker 1: in relationships in the past, and I've made a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes and I learned from them hopefully, and I
Speaker 1: know what I should and shouldn't be doing in a
Speaker 1: relationship and portray that what I want to a partner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. No, it makes perfect sense, and I
Speaker 1: completely agree with you. I don't believe the phrase wants
Speaker 1: a cheater, always a cheater. I've cheated before and past relationships,
Speaker 1: and you know, not excusing my behavior by any means
Speaker 1: because it was wrong, But I can tell you exactly
Speaker 1: why I cheated in that moment, And I think it's
Speaker 1: one thing to say once a cheater, always a cheater.
Speaker 1: If you're in that current relationship and somebody cheats on you,
Speaker 1: that's different because you know you might not be able
Speaker 1: to get past that and move on in your relationship.
Speaker 1: But if prior to you, before they even met you,
Speaker 1: they cheated for whatever reason, I think it's unfair to
Speaker 1: not give them the benefit of the doubt that they
Speaker 1: were able to learn and grow from that mistake they made.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it's it's fair to judge
Speaker 1: certain mistakes and put one mistake as not as bad
Speaker 1: as the other. Maybe that's coming from a biblical sense
Speaker 1: one sin, no sin is greater than the other. But
Speaker 1: I just I think that that's a very general statement.
Speaker 1: I think you have to be careful when you make
Speaker 1: that statement because you don't allow room for people to grow.
Speaker 1: And you also don't know what circumstance you may find
Speaker 1: yourself in, whether it's emotional cheating or physical cheating, or
Speaker 1: even just you know, with thoughts. So I thought that
Speaker 1: was interesting and I was curious to see, like how
Speaker 1: you felt about it, because people really have strong opinions
Speaker 1: about this. Oh yeah, and plain to your point, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to get a lot of people
Speaker 1: DM and us being like, how could you say that,
Speaker 1: How could you condone cheating? And to your point, if
Speaker 1: it's in a past relationship with a past partner, that's
Speaker 1: that's on them, and that's when somebody completely different. If
Speaker 1: it's in your current relationship, that's a whole different story
Speaker 1: and you can take and do what you want with that.
Speaker 1: But if it's if it's in the past and they
Speaker 1: genuinely you know, can admit that and own up to
Speaker 1: it and say like this is why or this is
Speaker 1: what transpired to get me there, and I learned from it,
Speaker 1: and you know, however I felt in that moment and
Speaker 1: after that it, Yeah, it takes growth. And so I
Speaker 1: think Rtatia was coming from which as we saw her explain,
Speaker 1: like she that was a part of her past relationship
Speaker 1: and in her marriage, and so I get that wound
Speaker 1: is probably still pretty fresh. I don't know exactly when
Speaker 1: her marriage ended, if she ever said it on the show,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's fresh. And so it's like I
Speaker 1: understand where that guard is coming from and where she's
Speaker 1: like very closed off to it. But also like I
Speaker 1: would hope that she and everyone watching these men, and
Speaker 1: like Zach in particular, because I'm sure he's going to
Speaker 1: get a lot of mean dams for those five minutes
Speaker 1: before he explains the story. It's like he's not her
Speaker 1: ex and all of these men are completely different people
Speaker 1: than who she dated in the past, and so she
Speaker 1: has to give them the benefit of the doubt that
Speaker 1: they have learned and grown and changed and are like
Speaker 1: fully committed to making the relationship with her work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very very well said. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me was Zach is he all
Speaker 1: did without hesitation, so he knows, you know, he can
Speaker 1: admit he cheated, He can admit his mistake, and he
Speaker 1: knew right away it was wrong. Yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: immediately it was wrong. I ain't to try type of
Speaker 1: cheating I did, but I definitely learned from my mistakes
Speaker 1: in the past. I don't want anybody to think that
Speaker 1: happened when Brian. Let me just get that straight before
Speaker 1: someone tries to imply that, um, that did not happen
Speaker 1: with him. I yeah, I I'm glad we talked that
Speaker 1: one out because I just think that that's something that
Speaker 1: people go back and forth on, um before we move
Speaker 1: on and we get to Noah. I think probably the
Speaker 1: biggest question hanging over this entire episode is how the
Speaker 1: hell is Blake am still here? What? Yes? Honestly, I like,
Speaker 1: has he even had a conversation with Pastasia? You don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know, only see him either by himself or
Speaker 1: with all of the dudes stewing over everything. And I'm like, oh, Blake, honey,
Speaker 1: like like you couldn't keep Spencer your first impression bros
Speaker 1: over Blake, Am, you couldn't keep Damar who's a personal favorite,
Speaker 1: ed who at least has a sense of humor. I mean,
Speaker 1: what is Blake? Who is Blake? I mean I just yeah,
Speaker 1: Blake's just making making penises out of clay, says out
Speaker 1: of clay, and very uncomfortable orgasms into it. Health Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but he is flexible. I will give him that,
Speaker 1: So Rachel, before we do bring Noah on, though, we
Speaker 1: do have one other major thing that we did see,
Speaker 1: and that is with Riley and one of one of
Speaker 1: our personal favorites, and we actually want to have him
Speaker 1: on next week to get into this and have him
Speaker 1: here to answer all of the questions because it was
Speaker 1: a big moment for him and we saw a lot
Speaker 1: more emotion come out of him. And so rather than
Speaker 1: recapping and go through just what we saw in thirty
Speaker 1: seconds with him last night, we're going to bring him
Speaker 1: on next week. So everyone please make sure you tune
Speaker 1: in to give Riley the floor and to play himself
Speaker 1: in much more detail. Yeah, the time that it desserts, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to talking to Riley. So now the
Speaker 1: moment you've been rereading, I know you don't want to
Speaker 1: do this. You have been such a trooper up until
Speaker 1: this point. I know that you probably have a bone
Speaker 1: or two or fourteen to pick with with Noah, but
Speaker 1: we we have to have him on and have we
Speaker 1: have cand story. Pour up your glass of wine, make
Speaker 1: sure that baby's full, and without further ado, happy Hour listeners,
Speaker 1: we bring you. As Bennett would say, young Noah. No
Speaker 1: Noah loves to bats for Happy Hour. Appreciate it. Love
Speaker 1: to be here. Thank you. Oh we are ready. Now
Speaker 1: I'm going to pressace this entire conversation with Noah. I'm
Speaker 1: team Bennett. Okay, so I want you to know what
Speaker 1: kind of energy do you know where I'm coming from?
Speaker 1: What before we get into this. It's only fair, Okay.
Speaker 1: I had a feeling you were wearing some loafers right now.
Speaker 1: I could feel it from across the country. I'm nineteen, Bennett.
Speaker 1: I am, she's in mourning because you sent them home
Speaker 1: from the South. I am, yeah, yeah, I'm in morning.
Speaker 1: I got I got my sunglasses here. I've got a
Speaker 1: eulogy prepared for this podcast as well. You know you
Speaker 1: sent my boy home. We're gonna since we're gonna preface it.
Speaker 1: I want to show you that I wearing these lovely
Speaker 1: socks that your boy got me from the guest. I
Speaker 1: haven't done stretches, so I just did ruin every muscle
Speaker 1: I had. But yeah, I'm wearing them. So we got
Speaker 1: the same energy going on. I'm glad that we can
Speaker 1: have a piece of Bennett in this podcast. Thank you, Noah,
Speaker 1: You've already changed my mood. One point for Noah, speaking
Speaker 1: of speaking of pieces of things, where's the mustache? Um? So,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I didn't realize so many people
Speaker 1: disliked it. I don't know why. I truly like you
Speaker 1: got you got more hate ustache and I randomly do
Speaker 1: a mustache and randomly don't. Um. So, by the time
Speaker 1: you know the show was over, everyone was doing mustaches
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right now, it's not really
Speaker 1: fun and cool because everybody's doing it, and I just
Speaker 1: I just so must have to wear a mask at
Speaker 1: the hospital, so it you can only have a mustache
Speaker 1: for the masks are awful. So when you knew you
Speaker 1: were in quarantine Alaquinta about to meet the about shout,
Speaker 1: you were like, this mustache right now is a great idea.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, this is how I came in. This
Speaker 1: is how I'm gonna go out. Either she's gonna hate
Speaker 1: it or she's gonna love it, because there's no in
Speaker 1: between with the mustache. Yeah, nobody is like, oh, the
Speaker 1: mustache is all right. People either want to burn the
Speaker 1: house down or they want to like gobble the mustache up.
Speaker 1: It's in between, yeah, I mean, there's no one between.
Speaker 1: It's got to be attached to something. It's got to
Speaker 1: have like a partner in crime. You can't go solo
Speaker 1: with the mustache like at all, Like, at least give
Speaker 1: it a soul patch. You gotta get I thought, I
Speaker 1: reminded myself, what's that got, Howie man del Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hated that about myself, so I got rid of
Speaker 1: it quick. Yeah's and the mustache, which we appreciate it. So, no,
Speaker 1: how does somebody like you get on this show? So
Speaker 1: it's funny. I don't know what that means somebody like me,
Speaker 1: but it's funny that you asked that, because back in
Speaker 1: the day, people would always joke like, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 1: end up on the Bachelor Bacherette. It just makes sense.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what that meant, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means. I don't know. I never did.
Speaker 1: But then one day I'm doing it because I'm a
Speaker 1: travel nurse, so it's doing a contract in California. My
Speaker 1: little sister calls me and it's like, hey, I'm at
Speaker 1: a bacherette party and me and my friends all want
Speaker 1: to nominate you for the bacherette. And I was kind
Speaker 1: of like, all right, sure, yeah, whatever sounds good. So
Speaker 1: I sent them some Venmo for some margaritas. I was like,
Speaker 1: have fun. You know. I didn't think anything would become
Speaker 1: of it. I was in the middle of a COVID
Speaker 1: contract actually, when it was just getting started, so they
Speaker 1: weren't calling it COVID officially, but it's just getting started.
Speaker 1: Then you know, skip a couple of weeks and they say, hey,
Speaker 1: we you know, your profile came across our desk. We
Speaker 1: want to at least interview you. So, oh, go ahead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I finished. So I was like, is this being real?
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't think it was real. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm getting punk somehow. I don't know how
Speaker 1: this is happening, but I'm getting played right now. So
Speaker 1: I didn't even think it was real really, But I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, yeah, whoever you are, I'll show up
Speaker 1: after a shift. So I like stop at the mall
Speaker 1: after shift at eight in the morning, show up with
Speaker 1: some clothes. I'm like on my twentieth cup of coffee,
Speaker 1: so I'm literally sweating. I'm like a mess. And I
Speaker 1: interviewed him for a couple of hours and they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're serious about this and you're in
Speaker 1: a play to life that you think you'll you know,
Speaker 1: you'll think this process will work. We love to have you.
Speaker 1: And this was after I've been a travelers for two years,
Speaker 1: so I've been I'd typically work a contract and then
Speaker 1: leave the country, so I've been you know, on my
Speaker 1: own for the last two years, traveling around having to
Speaker 1: blast living it up. And I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I am ready, like as far
Speaker 1: I feel like accomplishing everything I've done to my in
Speaker 1: my life to this point by myself. This is a
Speaker 1: crazy way to like give love a chance, but I've
Speaker 1: done probably crazier things and I'm gonna at least commit
Speaker 1: fully to it. So then you know, I just decided,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 1: my life is, this will work with how my life is,
Speaker 1: and I can continue after. So it's not like I
Speaker 1: did it and then it didn't work out. Like if
Speaker 1: it works out, I want to be able to have
Speaker 1: our lives smash. So yeah that I just wanted to
Speaker 1: say thank you, you know, for what you do. I
Speaker 1: want to recognize the fact that you are on the
Speaker 1: front lines. You're in a SENTI essential worker. You know
Speaker 1: you've been out here, like you mentioned COVID. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure you know. I know you're on the front lines.
Speaker 1: I don't know what how involved you were with COVID
Speaker 1: or not, but the fact that you you have to
Speaker 1: be out there and you're, you know, protecting us and
Speaker 1: you're taking care of sick people. I just want to
Speaker 1: say thank you for what you do. Appreciate it, And honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't like to talk about it because I feel
Speaker 1: like that defeats the purpose of why I do it.
Speaker 1: You know, I work in the COVID, I see you,
Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, I appreciate it. It's been crazy and
Speaker 1: it hasn't stopped. That's very humbling of you, though. I
Speaker 1: just want to say that before we get into the
Speaker 1: other part of it. Serious, thank you. Listen, listen, she's
Speaker 1: pulling a Bennett tactic and butter me up getting all sweet.
Speaker 1: She's probably got a gift, but it's kind of just
Speaker 1: destroying me. Later, I'm waiting for the mail. I don't
Speaker 1: but it would be remiss of us on the show
Speaker 1: to not recognize what you do and thank you for
Speaker 1: your service. Truly, You're well, It's obviously an honor. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. So, Noah, you mentioned like all of your
Speaker 1: friends were saying you should sign up for the show,
Speaker 1: you should be part of this. We did, I have
Speaker 1: to admit this. We did hear from my belief. Easy
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when we asked, like, who
Speaker 1: was the man that loved the camera the most, he
Speaker 1: happened to mention you. So, now that you obviously are
Speaker 1: in it and watching this all back, and I'm assuming
Speaker 1: your friends and family are watching it, do you think like,
Speaker 1: do you think that you are living up to their
Speaker 1: expectation of what they thought you would be like on TV?
Speaker 1: And how is it personally watching yourself back? First, it's
Speaker 1: funny that Easy said that, because if you were to
Speaker 1: ask me, I would say Easy, And that's probably why
Speaker 1: Easy and I both like we were friends, but we
Speaker 1: weren't because it's two big spotlights, you know. So it's
Speaker 1: funny that you say that. As far as my family
Speaker 1: and friends, I still don't think my parents have adjusted
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm making out on TV because I
Speaker 1: keep my life very private. I don't talk about any
Speaker 1: of that really, even with like my twin and some
Speaker 1: of my best friends. I will, but I'm very private.
Speaker 1: And I told them, like, hey, listen. When when I
Speaker 1: told my parents, I said, hey, listen, I'm either I'm
Speaker 1: showing up and I'm either going to be in love
Speaker 1: by the end of this or be heartbroken. It's one
Speaker 1: of the two. And they're like, it's a little dramatic,
Speaker 1: don't you think. I was like, Oh, I'm serious. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm all in or I'm all out, you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm not holding back anything. That's kind of why I
Speaker 1: was excited about this, because I have never gone out
Speaker 1: of my way to give one person a chance. I've
Speaker 1: kind of like with withheld things because you know, I've
Speaker 1: been traveling a lot and kind of living my own life.
Speaker 1: So I prefaced it with them. I said, I don't
Speaker 1: know how it's gonna look in the end, but I
Speaker 1: am gonna go all in all Noah, and you know,
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens. So they saw me early on and
Speaker 1: saw the funny thing is a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 1: like me hopping the fence. They weren't surprised in the slidest.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, okay, yeah, sounds right. And everyone's freaking out,
Speaker 1: and they're like, as it seems about what I expected
Speaker 1: to happen. And you know, I got in some fights
Speaker 1: with some guys and they're like, I kind of thought
Speaker 1: you were more chill. I don't know something was going
Speaker 1: down between you and the guys. They were kind of
Speaker 1: surprised by that, but for the most part, everyone's been
Speaker 1: super supportive. Weren't too surprised, but we're more like, you know,
Speaker 1: how much of this? How much is this that we're seeing?
Speaker 1: How much was left out that wasn't there? And obviously
Speaker 1: I can't talk about it. Oh so you're saying some
Speaker 1: things were left out. We didn't get the whole story, Okay, Noah.
Speaker 1: So you know you're in a good company here you're
Speaker 1: talking to we're all we all three have biblical names here, Okay.
Speaker 1: Rebecca Rachel Noah. Okay, so you're in a safe place.
Speaker 1: You're a safe place here, but okay, no, I feel
Speaker 1: like I've seen on social media you've been alluding to this,
Speaker 1: but you're the villain. Okay, let's just call it about
Speaker 1: Becca and I loved you jumping the fits. We are
Speaker 1: actually big fans of you jumping the fits. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a it was a bold move, it was
Speaker 1: a big move, it was necessary, and everybody else was
Speaker 1: just jealous that they didn't think of it or do
Speaker 1: it first. Okay, but you're the villain. What do you
Speaker 1: think about that? How do you feel being portrayed as
Speaker 1: the villain? I mean, like maybe maybe been it is
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of it too, but I think you.
Speaker 1: I think it's more you. I think it's more so.
Speaker 1: I think I'll go ahead something just before to give you.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I don't know how if you had
Speaker 1: watched the show before. But usually in the past, when
Speaker 1: we see a villain, like you know right away who
Speaker 1: the villain is going to be because they say certain
Speaker 1: things to the group of people that like I remember
Speaker 1: the villain on on my season, well not on my season,
Speaker 1: but on r season, like lost her Mind, a little
Speaker 1: bit and like went off and was calling us bitches
Speaker 1: and worse things. But with you, it's in a different way.
Speaker 1: It's like a new kind of villain that I like,
Speaker 1: I watch you go down and I see like the
Speaker 1: banter between you and Bennett, but I like, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call you a full villain. But it's just like the
Speaker 1: show needs that title. You know, he's a villain, You're
Speaker 1: a manipulator. Listen your boy. Bennett's little shimmer, I mean
Speaker 1: his glimmer. A shimmer is not a word. His glimmer
Speaker 1: is starting to wear off and he's starting to be
Speaker 1: shown for more of a villain. And that's how some
Speaker 1: of the guys at the house song We we got
Speaker 1: to see Bennett. He's funny, he's quirky, he's all these things.
Speaker 1: But then he'll say stuff and you're like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just he was just very condescending and demeaning totally,
Speaker 1: and so we'd be like, dude, what is that. You know,
Speaker 1: you're funny and we like you, but it's also some
Speaker 1: random things. So mine was he like that with just
Speaker 1: you or with all of the guys too. For the
Speaker 1: most part, he was Okay, I don't know, which question
Speaker 1: to answer first? There's so much to unbottle here. Um,
Speaker 1: why all right, So I'll start with with your question.
Speaker 1: When I saw that I was starting to be portrayed
Speaker 1: as the villain, honestly, I was annoyed at first, and
Speaker 1: all my friends and family thought it's hilarious because they
Speaker 1: know me, and they're like, dude, you look I mean
Speaker 1: you kind of looking like like just a manipulative torp. Dude,
Speaker 1: you look like you're just doing all these things and
Speaker 1: we know you're not like that, Like are you okay?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. It's just annoying because
Speaker 1: you know, their opinion matters more to me than people
Speaker 1: on Twitter that are ragging on me. They have no
Speaker 1: idea who I am, They have no idea what my
Speaker 1: life's like. So I value their opinion a lot more so.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of support from them, but I
Speaker 1: was annoyed when I you know, I figured out I'm
Speaker 1: the villain. That's why on Instagram I made these sly
Speaker 1: little jokes like yeah, I'm the big bad villain to me.
Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff that I said was left
Speaker 1: out would have probably clarified why why things were portrayed
Speaker 1: the way that were. So when I the first time
Speaker 1: I talked to Tasha, I knew. I knew things After
Speaker 1: that point, we're gonna be bad. And the only reason
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to her is because the guys
Speaker 1: were saying, basically like, dude, you got this rose for
Speaker 1: no reason. We know it. It's just to make us
Speaker 1: all try harder. Piss us off all this stuff. So
Speaker 1: I said, hey, Tasha, I have feelings for you, and
Speaker 1: I want to know if you gave it to me
Speaker 1: just for fun, because if you did, I'll go home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was for me. It was for me
Speaker 1: being like I will leave like this is what I heard.
Speaker 1: If it's I want to know if it's true or not,
Speaker 1: because I don't really want to be here if it is. Now,
Speaker 1: no part of you thought she would have because you
Speaker 1: were basically saying, hey, the men are doing this and
Speaker 1: they're they're quite you. You you set that up, and
Speaker 1: it's become this thing that I like, can't stand. This
Speaker 1: whole questioning my integrity I think is being blown out
Speaker 1: of the water. Personally, I don't think it's really all
Speaker 1: that deep, but you kind of set her on the
Speaker 1: path to think that because of what you were saying,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me. There was no part of you
Speaker 1: that thought, oh gosh, maybe she's gonna take this the
Speaker 1: wrong way. I thought, I mean, I thought, maybe she
Speaker 1: will take this the wrong way. But I also I
Speaker 1: was never malicious and devious on how I did that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting back in my room thinking I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this because I have the biggest rose in back
Speaker 1: history on my chest, which is ten pounds for some
Speaker 1: reason rose. Yeah, it's huge, But I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: all this. I mean, I wasn't devious when I did it.
Speaker 1: I honestly wanted to know, like is this true or not?
Speaker 1: And it exploded to right, it exploded into something I
Speaker 1: didn't really intend. And you knew it when the group,
Speaker 1: when the group was all back together and Tasia went
Speaker 1: and on her rant and they were like, well what happened?
Speaker 1: Like who said something? And you were like who said that?
Speaker 1: That's where I was so confused, because I feel like
Speaker 1: watching that interaction Aftertation left and you know, had this
Speaker 1: moment where she's like, if you're gonna question me, I'm
Speaker 1: out of here. You see you up against how many
Speaker 1: guys were left at that point like sixteen or something like,
Speaker 1: they're all questioning you saying Noah, like we didn't say
Speaker 1: these things too directly, and you should have had a conversation,
Speaker 1: and it made it seem like you were like, well,
Speaker 1: yes I did, or I tried, or there was just
Speaker 1: a lot loss in translation as viewer, where I was like,
Speaker 1: we're missing something here, because there obviously is a lot
Speaker 1: more shown than what we can see weekly on the show.
Speaker 1: But like all of the guys basically were like hands up, like, no,
Speaker 1: we didn't have this conversation with you. We didn't say
Speaker 1: anything like this too, So where did that come from? Then?
Speaker 1: So you said sixteen guys were gonna at me. If
Speaker 1: you notice it's five or six, and it's the same
Speaker 1: five or six that I realized when I showed up.
Speaker 1: You know, they had their packed whatever they called themselves,
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen, o G sixteen, whatever it is, they
Speaker 1: had a packed they shared in your heartbreak with Claire,
Speaker 1: which coming on, I had no idea what happened. I
Speaker 1: just knew Claire's not the bacherette pass the bacherette. Uh great,
Speaker 1: That's all I knew. I did not know things went
Speaker 1: down how they went down. So That's why when Spencer
Speaker 1: got flack sake in these jokes, we didn't know all
Speaker 1: the stuff they went through. So when I showed up,
Speaker 1: I knew that this is a group of guys that
Speaker 1: are super close. But I have a target on my back,
Speaker 1: and regardless of what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: a target on my back. So I was at the
Speaker 1: point where I said, I'm either going to completely be myself.
Speaker 1: The guys that are disrespectful to me, I don't care.
Speaker 1: The guys that are respectful to me, I'll be respectful
Speaker 1: to them, but I'm not gonna just be quiet and
Speaker 1: let them hush me away because I'm the new guy
Speaker 1: and I'm the youngest. Because you didn't have a target
Speaker 1: on your back under my nose. If you would have
Speaker 1: just shaved it off prior to coming that first night,
Speaker 1: who knows where we would be at this point. But
Speaker 1: then Tasia wouldn't have shaved it off, you know, And
Speaker 1: that was smoothoth she shaved it off. I'm like she
Speaker 1: she complimented me more in those two hours, in the
Speaker 1: whole week or two weeks, and I'm like, Okay, well
Speaker 1: I guess, but I wish I would have known this
Speaker 1: a long time ago. But I those guys that I
Speaker 1: got into it with, it was five or six of them,
Speaker 1: and they would have banded together. You could have said,
Speaker 1: Noah has a unibrown blueskin and they'd have been like,
Speaker 1: Noah does have a unibrown blueskin. They would have banded
Speaker 1: together and said anything like in support of each other.
Speaker 1: And that's why the footage that's missing. It's a shame
Speaker 1: because I'm like, okay, you can see me calling people
Speaker 1: out and it just being brushed aside, like I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, dude, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. But then you know, I hear it
Speaker 1: as I'm walking into the house or into the hub
Speaker 1: or whatever. Did anyone kind of have your back and
Speaker 1: stand up for you in that instance? That instance, no, nobody.
Speaker 1: It was me, and we're all looking around that people
Speaker 1: are calling out producer. It was Mayhem. They don't show
Speaker 1: how bad it really was. It was six first one
Speaker 1: yelling and Ed I don't even know where he came from.
Speaker 1: He just started thinking. I don't think he knew where
Speaker 1: he was. He was just yelling. He was To be fair, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect any of my back that because I
Speaker 1: knew day well that it would have. I mean, people
Speaker 1: are gonna be pissed about it if it's if they
Speaker 1: think that I'm just lying and making it up. That's
Speaker 1: why I didn't want to bring in names. Um. I
Speaker 1: just wanted her to tell me yes or no, I
Speaker 1: gave you that rose to help. I gave you that
Speaker 1: rose just because or yeah, I do I feelings for you.
Speaker 1: So nobody had in my back, but they didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't deserve anybody had my back at that point. Later on,
Speaker 1: when they got to know me, I did have a
Speaker 1: quite a few guys in the house. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like we had been on here last week and he
Speaker 1: spoke highly of you. I feel like, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you really wanted to know, if Tastia gave me the
Speaker 1: rose for real, you just have asked it and it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have, you know, escalated to what it did. But
Speaker 1: it did escalate. And then we saw, you know, you
Speaker 1: and Bennett start. You can always see as you're watching
Speaker 1: the show, and I'm not sure if you're a fan
Speaker 1: of the show, before you can see people start like
Speaker 1: it's like they start rising up and you're like Okay,
Speaker 1: they're going on a two on one. It's happening. And
Speaker 1: it shifted a bit in this group, but just from
Speaker 1: Claire's season totatious season, but as we see it becomes
Speaker 1: you and Bennett at any time where you were like,
Speaker 1: were you like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna be the
Speaker 1: one on the two on one. It's gonna be me
Speaker 1: versus Bennett. How did I get to this place? So
Speaker 1: I have this habit of just pretty much planned umb
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to insults, just brush them off.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't want them bother me, because honestly,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm like, what do
Speaker 1: I get out of this? Yeah, I can just totally
Speaker 1: go in and make all these insulted or like, I
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things with it, But what
Speaker 1: do I get at the end? I might feel a
Speaker 1: little rush for the moment because I made some guy,
Speaker 1: you know, I made fun of him or something. So
Speaker 1: I would get remarks from Bennett all the time, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to feed into this. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was I'd stay on the defensive. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to feed into it, and they're just jabs.
Speaker 1: They're little jabs. Who cares? You know. I came from
Speaker 1: a family of ten brothers and sisters. We get jabs
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like, whatever, you know, where do
Speaker 1: you fall in live? I'm in the middle with my twin.
Speaker 1: You're a middle child, Yeah, makes so much sense. I'm
Speaker 1: a little child too. Maybe that's why I love to
Speaker 1: hate you. I understand you. No, But I heard the
Speaker 1: remarks even when I when I jumped the fence. When
Speaker 1: I was jumping the fence, I was like, I know
Speaker 1: this is going to cause drama, but listen, I'm here
Speaker 1: for tastion. I'm not here to fit in with these
Speaker 1: guys because either she'll like me or she doesn't, and
Speaker 1: then the guys we'll see, you know. But even with
Speaker 1: that moment, mean Bennett had said like two words to
Speaker 1: each other up to that point, like we haven't talked.
Speaker 1: All I hear is just little little chirps in the
Speaker 1: corner the whole time, and I'm like, this guy has
Speaker 1: no idea who I am. We've never talked. They did
Speaker 1: the same thing they did with Spencer, where they started
Speaker 1: going on Spencer and Spencer ended up kind of being like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this drama. I'll you know,
Speaker 1: I was in the wrong, whereas I was like, I
Speaker 1: haven't done anything to wrong any of you. The tattling
Speaker 1: in that I could have definitely went through more smoothly,
Speaker 1: but you know, looking back, I don't regret it. I
Speaker 1: was just like, I could have been more smooth about
Speaker 1: that and handled it in a different way, but how
Speaker 1: it played out. I never wronged anybody. I never went
Speaker 1: out of my way to do these things. But some
Speaker 1: of these guys are coming at me like I just
Speaker 1: you know, went in and stole other presents from under
Speaker 1: the Christmas tree. I didn't. I didn't get it. So
Speaker 1: the Bennett remarks, I brushed him off and brushed him off,
Speaker 1: and then people were telling me, like, you know, Ivan
Speaker 1: was like, dude, he's Ivan's my boy by the web preface,
Speaker 1: you know, people were telling me like, what's up with you, Bennett,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: And then I started to notice, I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: he is kind of coming at me sideways. And then
Speaker 1: when Tastia said it, I was like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is where this is where I'm done playing around
Speaker 1: because I actually you know, I started having feelings for Tastia,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, now we're all dating the same the
Speaker 1: same chick, and you're like coming after me. Now it's
Speaker 1: actually personal. You know, Before I'm like who cares? But now,
Speaker 1: you know. As it progressed and she brought it up,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, something, something's gonna have to happen.
Speaker 1: And it looks like one of us is gonna go home.
Speaker 1: I don't know how, but one of us is gonna
Speaker 1: go home, and the other person's gonna try to burn
Speaker 1: the house down on the way. That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I was gonna play out. I
Speaker 1: just can see it coming. So we see you and
Speaker 1: Bennett on this two on one, and usually I feel
Speaker 1: like the guys don't have you know, because Rachel, did
Speaker 1: you have a two on one on your side? Okay? So,
Speaker 1: and I feel like usually they don't leave the guys
Speaker 1: alone that long, at least on my two on one,
Speaker 1: Like I spent the whole first half with them, like
Speaker 1: they weren't alone together, and so I thought it was
Speaker 1: interesting that they put you two in the room. And
Speaker 1: of course they knew Lack Bennett had this gift for you.
Speaker 1: So he gives you this book about emotional intelligence, and
Speaker 1: I just have to say, I hope we see the
Speaker 1: book at some point, maybe during mental all. Who knows.
Speaker 1: I hope it. Maybe you still have it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But have you read the book? And how would you
Speaker 1: rate your emotional intelligence? So I started to read the book.
Speaker 1: I did. I think there's gonna I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: clip of me somewhere cropped up with a little bit
Speaker 1: of a Chardonnay, my socks on the couch reading this book.
Speaker 1: The mustache socks. No, they're different socks. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. I'm like this. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: above being taught about, you know, more emotional intelligence. If
Speaker 1: it's a good book. It's a good book, it's peer
Speaker 1: reviewed from Harvard. Then it read it four times apparently,
Speaker 1: but he didn't apply it, so I can read it once.
Speaker 1: We're not going to have any of that. I read
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Um, I feel like to rate
Speaker 1: myself on emotional intelligence, like kind of defeats the purpose
Speaker 1: of emotional intelligence. Do you think you have more than
Speaker 1: one of the key components? Yeah? Um. The funny thing
Speaker 1: is Bennett said self management is the only one I have. UM,
Speaker 1: But I mean the things that he said I didn't
Speaker 1: have are things like I mean, there are things that
Speaker 1: I like make a mission to live by and like
Speaker 1: put at the top of my list, Like empathy is one.
Speaker 1: I would say, screw nursing if I wasn't empathetic, because
Speaker 1: it's not fun. It's not like those days where it
Speaker 1: just sucks and you're like why would I be doing this?
Speaker 1: So like in order to say I don't have empathy,
Speaker 1: that's what I have to like show every day or
Speaker 1: I'm just a bad nurse, you know, And so I like,
Speaker 1: damn it. Some some of the things that he said
Speaker 1: I lacked, I just like, I'm I'm hearing them, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can tell I'm getting so mad, I'm
Speaker 1: getting so throttled. But I'm like, if I feed into this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look like a twenty five year old punk
Speaker 1: that's a hothead. So I just have to listen. But
Speaker 1: I would disagree with a lot of the emotional intelligence things,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of the people that know
Speaker 1: me would as well. Yeah, you mentioned your age, and
Speaker 1: I feel like you got a lot of black from that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know you're you're Are you twenty five? I just
Speaker 1: turned twenty six on the fifteenth November. Okay, just you said,
Speaker 1: get it read the scorpio. I knew you knew it,
Speaker 1: And normally I asked, I think your birthday? Where did
Speaker 1: your birthday? Since the zoom and leaves, She's gone, get
Speaker 1: the water out, dad, bringing the water. I need the water,
Speaker 1: the Holy water, especially bell scorpios. I know it all
Speaker 1: makes sense to all of a sudden. No, but but
Speaker 1: your age. I feel like, and this is a theme
Speaker 1: on The Bachelor Age younger people. It becomes a talking point,
Speaker 1: it becomes an issue, but it is something that Tasia recognized.
Speaker 1: Tasia said to you in the episode when she was,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to decide between you and Finnett. She
Speaker 1: says to you, I feel like you're not ready for marriage.
Speaker 1: She makes a comment, I feel like you're not ready
Speaker 1: for this. How did that make you feel? And and
Speaker 1: why do you think she said that to you? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: to be honest, So the age thing, that's something I've
Speaker 1: been dealing with my entire life because me and my
Speaker 1: twins started college when we were I mean, we started
Speaker 1: doing concurrent classes when we were sixteen. By the time
Speaker 1: we were eighteen, we've already done with all of our
Speaker 1: prerequisits and stuff. So I was, I might, I might
Speaker 1: be You're grown on Rachel, I no, no, shut it down.
Speaker 1: Shut it down as a full moon out tonight too.
Speaker 1: But I'm used to like always being like being a topic,
Speaker 1: and it used to bother me so much. Like that's
Speaker 1: why my Instagram handle was baby Herb for the longest time,
Speaker 1: because that was a nickname everybody called. My last name
Speaker 1: is Herb. You know, that's what everyone's like, He's so
Speaker 1: much younger. My friends were six years older than me.
Speaker 1: So I used to bother me. But then I got
Speaker 1: to a point where, you know, I'm the ten ten
Speaker 1: years younger than the people in my nursing class and
Speaker 1: working at a furniture store when everyone's in their thirties
Speaker 1: and I'm twenty or nineteen. And I started taking as
Speaker 1: a compliment like not a chip on my shoulder, but
Speaker 1: more like let me prove you wrong kind of thing,
Speaker 1: like let my actions speak for themselves. I don't need
Speaker 1: to say anything about it. Um. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I've been living my life when people view me
Speaker 1: like my age is a big deal, like, let me
Speaker 1: prove you wrong. I mean, just staid instead of having
Speaker 1: a preconceived notion to me, because I'm twenty five, talk
Speaker 1: to me and hang out and my actions will speak
Speaker 1: way louder than whatever I say. So why do you
Speaker 1: think you weren't ready? Well when Tatious said that, you
Speaker 1: have to look from tatious perspective. Caught up in a
Speaker 1: lot of drama. All the drama and something one thing
Speaker 1: she did saying, she said a lot to me, like
Speaker 1: you're always goofing around, You're always having fun. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like that, you know, in my life it's I'm
Speaker 1: a more half full kind of guy. So I was
Speaker 1: goofing around with her a lot. But I did make
Speaker 1: it a point to show a serious side, and you
Speaker 1: didn't see that in the art thing. But I dove
Speaker 1: into I got. I was the first one to go,
Speaker 1: so I set the pace for how emotional we got.
Speaker 1: And clearly the other thing got very emotional with everyone.
Speaker 1: But I try to go out of my way to
Speaker 1: be like or to show my more deep sides and
Speaker 1: more husband sides and things like that. But Tacia can
Speaker 1: only see so much, so if all she sees is
Speaker 1: us having fun, a little bit of deep sides that
Speaker 1: she's more intrigued by, and then the rest is me
Speaker 1: on the defensive fight and everybody in the house and like,
Speaker 1: you know, caught up in drama. I don't blame her
Speaker 1: for saying that I wasn't mad. I was. I was
Speaker 1: kind of sad to hear that because I know how
Speaker 1: hard I've worked in my life and set myself up,
Speaker 1: and to hear that, I was kind of like disappointed.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like when she didn't give me
Speaker 1: the rose after Bennett at home and then she said
Speaker 1: I don't think you're ready for marriage. She said it
Speaker 1: in a way that was like proving me wrong, honestly,
Speaker 1: And you know, I'll take that instead of her being like,
Speaker 1: you're not ready for marriage for sure, you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of felt it was like I see deeper sides
Speaker 1: in you every time we talk. You know, proved me wrong.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. So I didn't like caring
Speaker 1: it because I know all the work I've put in
Speaker 1: to my life to get where I am now. Well,
Speaker 1: and h doesn't mean like maturity or I think it's
Speaker 1: experience that really makes someone who they are. Like I
Speaker 1: think back to like Ben Higgins actually when he was Bachelor.
Speaker 1: He just tweeted this out last night. In your defense, Noah,
Speaker 1: he was twenty five when he became bachelor, and I
Speaker 1: mean he was ready. He obviously got engaged in and
Speaker 1: was ready for the next step, and you know, things
Speaker 1: worked out in a different way for him. But but
Speaker 1: to your point, like on my season on R season,
Speaker 1: beck at m who was twenty two at the time,
Speaker 1: like everyone when they found out her age gave her
Speaker 1: so much flak and and simply because she was twenty
Speaker 1: two and now she has two amazing, beautiful babies, Like
Speaker 1: she's just a badass mom. She just works hard, she's funny,
Speaker 1: witty like all these things. And it's just because yes,
Speaker 1: she's young, but she has probably more experience and maturity
Speaker 1: than most people. So in your defense, like, kudos to
Speaker 1: you for now coming on here and sharing that, because
Speaker 1: I think I think everyone could hear this because they
Speaker 1: just you know, see the thirty minutes that you and
Speaker 1: Benett were chirping at each other. Well also you were
Speaker 1: really feeding into it. But but yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: comes with experience, just with what you do. Well, that's
Speaker 1: something that I said when I really did get to
Speaker 1: a point where I was starting to get fed up,
Speaker 1: and when they started going at Spencer and then me
Speaker 1: and Ivan. You know a lot of the guys that
Speaker 1: were in the middle are like four years older than me,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to act like, you know, here, I
Speaker 1: am putting no under my wing. I'm like, you're not
Speaker 1: putting me into your wing. I'm not above whatever advice
Speaker 1: you have to give me, but let's not try to
Speaker 1: act like I'm your little brother. Age does not directly
Speaker 1: correlate with maturity. Like just because you weren't ready for
Speaker 1: love and weren't out a place when you were twenty
Speaker 1: five doesn't mean I'm not You can't speak for me
Speaker 1: in my life experiences. And that's something I kept saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speak for you either. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna speak for you. Yeah, sorry for doing good points.
Speaker 1: I'll show I'll slow him down, Rachel put the cross up.
Speaker 1: You can't even do it right now. That was something
Speaker 1: that I kept trying to, like say, is you know,
Speaker 1: quit having preconceived notions and judgments about me and other
Speaker 1: guys that you don't know because you you're speaking from
Speaker 1: where you were when you're my age. You can't speak
Speaker 1: for me, you don't know me. You know me a week?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, so so you know because it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys, it seems like comparing you
Speaker 1: to them and where you're all at. So, no, what
Speaker 1: does your five year plan look like? Do you think
Speaker 1: marriage will be in that? I've Oh, I think if
Speaker 1: I'm not married at five, I really messed up along
Speaker 1: the way. Something happened. Okay, you were seeking to somebody
Speaker 1: who is thirty and personally okay, personally now my five
Speaker 1: year Um, I mean I would love to get married
Speaker 1: here in the next couple of years, as long as
Speaker 1: I find somebody that our b life work out. I
Speaker 1: want to start having kids when i'm like early thirties,
Speaker 1: so I can still be a cool dad, you know,
Speaker 1: but you'll still be cool. Remember age, does it right?
Speaker 1: I'm doing stretches now, so I'm not worthless. Almost just
Speaker 1: pulled your leg when you were showing us. I have
Speaker 1: to oh, I'm sorry. Well, like my five years, I
Speaker 1: want to I'm still trying to devote you know. This
Speaker 1: year has been crazy with COVID and the Bachelorette and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to set myself up financially and things
Speaker 1: like that. For you know, whatever lady I do meet,
Speaker 1: you know, we can have fun and enjoy the world
Speaker 1: for a couple of years and then start to focus
Speaker 1: on you know, where we want to go next, and
Speaker 1: kids later down their own stuff like that. So five
Speaker 1: years is gonna be focused on me and one other person.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll still focus on my career and things
Speaker 1: like that, but it's being geared more turns towards another
Speaker 1: person with my career, whereas the last few years it's
Speaker 1: just been me. Yeah, I mean that's Listen. When you
Speaker 1: have older siblings, I really do feel like there's something
Speaker 1: that makes you grow up faster. And you have a
Speaker 1: lot of them, So there's just something about being around
Speaker 1: older siblings where you like, you're into the things that
Speaker 1: they are and it makes you mature in a different way.
Speaker 1: I mean, life experiences do as well, but something about
Speaker 1: older sibling. Okay, so I have to ask them. Okay,
Speaker 1: on the two on one, when my dear Bennett was
Speaker 1: sent hard all right, Okay, Bennett, Okay, I'll just called
Speaker 1: you Bennett because I'm so frazzled, so frazled on the
Speaker 1: BacT so at home when he went home, and you
Speaker 1: were sitting there in that room by yourself, and you
Speaker 1: have that singlish gleam in your eye and you were smiling.
Speaker 1: What was behind that thought? All right, First we need
Speaker 1: to talk about We need to talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that some of the faces they've been showing me on television.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know I make these
Speaker 1: faces or what. I've got this snobby little grin. It's
Speaker 1: the side of my mouth apparently, I don't know which side.
Speaker 1: It's one of them where I'm like, oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying anything, but you can just feel that, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I noticed. I'm like, what is that face? Like? Why
Speaker 1: am I making that face? I think it's a defensive face.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, all right, these guys are coming
Speaker 1: at me and bring it on. But nobody was in
Speaker 1: the room. What were you thinking? That one? I was
Speaker 1: happy because once you don't know is that your boy
Speaker 1: Bennett was so confident in the fact that he was
Speaker 1: going to send me home that he's telling all the
Speaker 1: guys he's not concerned. And the thing with Bennett is
Speaker 1: a lot of the things he does are premeditated. He
Speaker 1: thinks about him. He's got his sayings, he's got his singers,
Speaker 1: he has his singers, he's got good ones. But he
Speaker 1: thinks about the stuff hours in advance. So when she said,
Speaker 1: you're like, Noah, like she wasn't happy to let Bennett
Speaker 1: go that way, and she wasn't she wasn't happy with
Speaker 1: me obviously, as we saw, she wiped that smile off
Speaker 1: my face. Read walked in and said, no, don't be smiling.
Speaker 1: That wasn't not a victor's call. You. Oh, I know,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you are such a scow but you're
Speaker 1: But she's gonna keep me here. I'm like, send me home,
Speaker 1: Just send me home then fine. But when he went home, honestly,
Speaker 1: it was more of a testament to the fact that
Speaker 1: what she saw on us overshadowed the drama and the
Speaker 1: mess that I was in. So I'm kind of thinking,
Speaker 1: like Bennett ed are gone. The rest of the guys
Speaker 1: in the house, we're all close. There's not gonna be drama.
Speaker 1: Nobody's like going out of their way to start anything.
Speaker 1: We're all friends. I was just happy for like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got past this. I went against all the odds.
Speaker 1: I'm past all this. Now she can see like my
Speaker 1: real side, and there's a way more to me than
Speaker 1: she's seen, you know. So that's why I was excited.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like showed Bennett like part of me was
Speaker 1: because he started to kiss me off. But it was
Speaker 1: more like, all right, I'm ready to do this like
Speaker 1: at the next level. And that's I kept saying to
Speaker 1: the guys. Zach's the only one that kept agreeing with me.
Speaker 1: When I jumped the fence that one time. I said, listen, listen, boys,
Speaker 1: if we're all gonna do this for real and try
Speaker 1: to end up engaged, I'm gonna keep stepping it up.
Speaker 1: That's where I said, I'm just getting started. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep stepping it up. I'm not doing it
Speaker 1: to try to push you guys down. I expect all
Speaker 1: of us to keep stepping it up, and then you know,
Speaker 1: whoever's most suitable take the prize, which is you know,
Speaker 1: clean Tatia. That's about where we're at. So I was
Speaker 1: ready to keep stepping it up once Bennett went home,
Speaker 1: just having less mess along the way. But I did
Speaker 1: have a smug little smile. Yeah, I know I saw it.
Speaker 1: She slapped it off my face. I would. She walked
Speaker 1: it and said that, you know, well, Rachel, you probably
Speaker 1: remember this one. I think it was Paradise, which we'll
Speaker 1: get into for you know, but Paradise Reunion a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Tia was sitting there. She's like, yes, bitch, yes,
Speaker 1: That's when I felt walked back in. I was like, mmmm,
Speaker 1: I have sat on my hands. I was like, yes, man, sorry,
Speaker 1: so speaking well, I want to protect in the future
Speaker 1: and you stepping it up. We obviously don't know what
Speaker 1: happens with you or the rest of the season, but
Speaker 1: if there were to be an offer of Paradise on
Speaker 1: the table in several months, what would you say to that.
Speaker 1: I think Paradise would be wild. I think it would
Speaker 1: be like a mental lull. And you'll see what the
Speaker 1: mental lall was like. Okay, so I said I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it. I said I wouldn't do it. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know, I don't We'll see,
Speaker 1: you know, look I said I wouldn't do it. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what part of that was? Because
Speaker 1: I felt like I was getting a poor portrayal on
Speaker 1: the show, honestly, and I was like listen. If they're
Speaker 1: just gonna make me look like some douchebag, there's no
Speaker 1: reason to do it twice. I don't need the publicity
Speaker 1: in my life. Like I'm pretty happy. I was pretty
Speaker 1: happy with my life before the show, to be honest,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't need all of that, and
Speaker 1: I don't care for it, you know. Um, but you know,
Speaker 1: I realized now that it's just all kind of part
Speaker 1: of how it was. My personality itself got got me
Speaker 1: in trouble. They can only show so much, and so
Speaker 1: I kind of took it with stride. I know, like
Speaker 1: my family and friends are super supportive. Um, so I
Speaker 1: think I would do it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: have a current poll going on right now on Instagram
Speaker 1: and you're winning. So I don't think that team Bennett
Speaker 1: or team Noah. Oh. I will tell you right now,
Speaker 1: I might be the only one one who like Bennett.
Speaker 1: Here's what I realized is how flippant everybody is. Because
Speaker 1: I most hated man. I mean I'm next to I say,
Speaker 1: Putin on here. I don't know I'm next to Putin
Speaker 1: as far as people hating me or Chad Johnson, the
Speaker 1: last guy from Tulsa. Who sucked, actually sucked. It's chats
Speaker 1: from Tulsa. Yeah, he's from Tulsa. That's why I got something.
Speaker 1: Don't say that. Don't say that. I thought I was
Speaker 1: so hated, and honestly, I was like, why do people
Speaker 1: hate me? I haven't even done anything yet, Like they
Speaker 1: haven't even seen the stuff I've done, the like give
Speaker 1: it a week and actually hate me for a reason.
Speaker 1: But they've changed so fast and now yeah Bennett, Yeah,
Speaker 1: down with Bennett. Or people are like I still really
Speaker 1: don't like no, but I hate Bennett. So it's like
Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils that somebody's gonna do something
Speaker 1: next week or in two weeks to piss everyone else
Speaker 1: off and they won't even exactly. Um, No, everybody else
Speaker 1: lived is too quiet. They're too careful. Everyone's so careful.
Speaker 1: Everybody was too careful. Noah. I love a person who's
Speaker 1: direct and calls it out like it is. What do
Speaker 1: you mean by too careful? Were they playing a part?
Speaker 1: Were they were they trying to go for maybe another
Speaker 1: role in the franchise? I'm just what's what do you
Speaker 1: mean they were too careful? I think so a lot
Speaker 1: of those people that you think, are they playing another
Speaker 1: role in the franchise the ups and downs? They're probably gone,
Speaker 1: your boy being one of them. Um, I think the
Speaker 1: people like that's playing a role because I don't want
Speaker 1: to give you a bad name when I say that,
Speaker 1: I mean like trying to be the next Bachelor. You
Speaker 1: weren't playing ben Um. I mean he said to himself,
Speaker 1: he stayed out of all drama, King of the No
Speaker 1: Drama Club. They made little jokes to me. Some of
Speaker 1: the guys just were more careful about not being and
Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing, you know, it's not bad
Speaker 1: to go out of your way to stay out of
Speaker 1: the drama because the people that are in drama it's
Speaker 1: messy as you can see. Yeah, so a lot of
Speaker 1: the guys that are left are I mean, I'm the
Speaker 1: loudest one of the group unless we're drinking chardonade, and
Speaker 1: rather is definitely loud, and so is I. But that like,
Speaker 1: the guys that are left were very concise and how
Speaker 1: they did everything calculated, Yeah, calculating exactly. Not in a
Speaker 1: bad way, it's just there. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to say it. They were just actually have
Speaker 1: my thought that some people were on a I'm doing
Speaker 1: everything perfect, so I could potentially be the Bachelor. Actually
Speaker 1: that is actually my thought, but I won't. Oh, I
Speaker 1: love it. I was going to ask you, I'll be
Speaker 1: very honest about this, Ben yeh Ben the podcast last week.
Speaker 1: I was being facetious when I said it on the
Speaker 1: podcast last week, but I was really thinking about this,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I really feel like he's playing
Speaker 1: hit the part too. If he doesn't make it in
Speaker 1: the end, it could be the next Batchler. People already
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's hard to say with him because
Speaker 1: of his background. The man's a militant. He's very like
Speaker 1: strategic down man stripped down naked, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean like, and then said that I tweeted about it.
Speaker 1: I saw his butt cheeks for way too long. I
Speaker 1: was the first time. All I was thinking about was
Speaker 1: you guys sitting in back of him, just having to
Speaker 1: stare at his ass this entire time. Listen during that day,
Speaker 1: I saw cheeks. They placed me right behind that modeling
Speaker 1: couple that was naked. They placed me right before behind
Speaker 1: the guy, so I saw it. I saw butt cheeks
Speaker 1: for like four hours straight. I didn't you there, did
Speaker 1: not start I love that part. I'm sorry that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you just like took it. You were just like, oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what was I about to do? Flip the table over?
Speaker 1: In that moment. I probably would have been the same
Speaker 1: person because I don't like conflict. I want to deal
Speaker 1: with bullshit, So I would have been like, Okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I don't care. I like to stay out
Speaker 1: of it. I just had to react to it to be.
Speaker 1: You played it right, you played it the way you
Speaker 1: were supposed to. But that was funny. That was a
Speaker 1: funny moment. Hey, I didn't know he kissed her. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. That was the smoothest move he's done. It was.
Speaker 1: It was questionable because she didn't know who it was,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was, I mean, bold and smooth.
Speaker 1: I'd say, you guys have similarities. You, you and Bennett
Speaker 1: have some trying to call me Bennett and similarities. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I wouldn't. I wouldn't give you that crown,
Speaker 1: but I'm just no, but no, really, y'all have some similarities.
Speaker 1: Well in a good way, you know. Noah, with all
Speaker 1: due respect, I don't think you can take Bennett's crown
Speaker 1: that he holds in Rachel's eyes. But I think you're
Speaker 1: winning her over a little bit. I would relaying that.
Speaker 1: I hate to shut it down, but I can't take
Speaker 1: Bennett's crown. But I did take his chateau. Oh good,
Speaker 1: that shatau. Listen. I've never been right like they were
Speaker 1: behind for you. I had the fireplaces going all the time,
Speaker 1: not because it wasn't hot enough. It's just because I
Speaker 1: love to look at him lights down. I mean, Benne's
Speaker 1: chateau was no more. Actually, I think as he walked out,
Speaker 1: my chirp that I did say was thanks for warming
Speaker 1: up the chateau. Oh, Noah's nest. Noah's nest. It just
Speaker 1: took a page. I could play a handbook. I love
Speaker 1: it changed from Benet to Noah. Actually, well that sounds
Speaker 1: like a highlight right there. We're totally gonna let you go.
Speaker 1: But I have to say this because I want to
Speaker 1: give our Bachelor Happy listener, our Bachelor Happy hour listeners
Speaker 1: a tease. Men, tell all who's the star? Oh shoot?
Speaker 1: And I used star loosely, just like, yeah, what is
Speaker 1: start mean? It gets on so many levels. It gets intense,
Speaker 1: it gets emotional, it gets angry. Oh a lot of yelling.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is so many different emotions going on.
Speaker 1: It's just a glast box of emotions really the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, go ahead, because who's the person who's fighting
Speaker 1: for their spot on paradise? That's usually what the way
Speaker 1: they say. Oh okay, okay, Kenny, Okay, yeah, Kenny, listen.
Speaker 1: Kenny's very outspoken. I like that. Yeah, it's got to
Speaker 1: be Kenny. Then it's got to be Kenny. He was
Speaker 1: he was, I mean, he was out, he was out
Speaker 1: to play. Oh yeah, Kenny's Kenny. We will see Kenny
Speaker 1: walking down the shore. I mean people make fun of
Speaker 1: me from me having spiky hair. Kenny's hair, as he
Speaker 1: was yelling, was getting pointier and pointier. All the people. Men,
Speaker 1: your hair is also tall, Like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: half of you get the height that you do on
Speaker 1: your head. Like what products? Send the regiment? I told you,
Speaker 1: I'll send you the regiment. Herbal lessons is great. Quit
Speaker 1: quit quit using your blow dryer so much? Too? Okay,
Speaker 1: come out? Was it the set that wait? Was it? Noah?
Speaker 1: That was the message. He is too set that Spencer said,
Speaker 1: that's because I thought I was going home every night,
Speaker 1: so I never unpacked. It's tricky. How am I gonna
Speaker 1: unpack when I think I'm going home every single night?
Speaker 1: You know? All right, Noah, I there, I say this.
Speaker 1: But I enjoyed the conversation. Okay, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm not a liar, I am. I enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. You're a lot of fun. Um.
Speaker 1: It's nice to get the insight, you know, from you
Speaker 1: that maybe some things that we didn't get to see.
Speaker 1: And Becca and I understand this. We've been on both
Speaker 1: sides of it. We know that not everything is shown
Speaker 1: and you kind of just pick a side based on
Speaker 1: the two hours you see on TV when there's you're
Speaker 1: filming seven days a week. But thank you for being
Speaker 1: like taking it all with fun and you know, coming
Speaker 1: on the show, even when we give you a bit
Speaker 1: of a hard time. I'm still I'm still taint Bennett.
Speaker 1: But I'll be damned if I don't if I don't
Speaker 1: like no a little bit, now, that's no. You guys
Speaker 1: are awesome and honestly, the whole thing, Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh definitely some punches left it right, But at the end,
Speaker 1: I you know, I wouldn't change it. I thought it
Speaker 1: was awesome. I can't wait to see the popsicle house.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna find it. For the
Speaker 1: biggest letdown, this thing had like a foundation. No, it
Speaker 1: had architectural roof being. This thing was. Maybe that was
Speaker 1: a mess foundation, Maybe that was. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they did with it. I want to say once I left,
Speaker 1: the men burned it as like a vigil. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. They had to get all
Speaker 1: that could juju up in there. Hey, Actually, the one
Speaker 1: thing before you let me go, the one thing since
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about Ben, we talked about body
Speaker 1: by Ben when we all worked out. Um, that's what
Speaker 1: we called it, Body by Ben because he was our
Speaker 1: person trainer. We never talked about body by Noah when
Speaker 1: we didn't want to work out. And here he which
Speaker 1: body Body by Noah was. You know what, I'm not
Speaker 1: feeling it today. Body by Noah lay at the pool
Speaker 1: with some shard nay and the floaty. That's the Body
Speaker 1: by Noah. And it's undervalued. It really is. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's not. I would have probably been a part of that.
Speaker 1: I would have joined the body by Noah. That's why
Speaker 1: you can see me every other roast ceremony. I just
Speaker 1: look darker and dark and you're like, what is this
Speaker 1: guy just sleeping outside? That's what I wanted to say.
Speaker 1: I was watching with a couple of girlfriends last night
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, why is Noah so tanned? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: he's been laid by the pool. He's yeah, so all
Speaker 1: right body by no One. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: these uh workout videos. Won't work on it for b
Speaker 1: IP because I can't be shown up looking like I
Speaker 1: do now saying he's already there. We'll see you back
Speaker 1: on the podcast. Noah, You've been so much fun. Um.
Speaker 1: Thank you for everything that you do just on camera,
Speaker 1: but then also off camera in your profession. Truly, I
Speaker 1: know you don't want to talk about it, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk about it for you. But thank you. We can't
Speaker 1: thank you. Nice to see you. Thank you for coming
Speaker 1: on today a blast. Becca. What did you think? What's
Speaker 1: you think? I will say? I mean, I've always like
Speaker 1: tried to be the play devil's advocate, if you will,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. I have loved Bennett this
Speaker 1: entire season. He did start to rub me the wrong way.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad that we were at least able to
Speaker 1: have Noah on to explain his side in his take, because,
Speaker 1: like you said, with him, like what you see is
Speaker 1: not always what you get, and there's so much that
Speaker 1: you have to film into, like clip into a certain storyline,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot more that we did not, I think,
Speaker 1: get to see or hear of him. So I was glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we had him on today. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're right, I felt like I was cheating on Bennett
Speaker 1: the entire time I was talking to Noah. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: did Noah kind of win me over a bit? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he made a little dent in me. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that I'm going to follow him into the Ark two
Speaker 1: by two, but I definitely I had fun with him.
Speaker 1: Let's just put it like that. I'm ustan surprised. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised. And you know what, guys, I
Speaker 1: hope you were too. I hope you had fun listening
Speaker 1: to Noah and of course hanging out with us today.
Speaker 1: We love being able to talk to you guys, and
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Speaker 1: change your opinion about saying I did, but change your
Speaker 1: opinion on some of these contestants that you see on
Speaker 1: the show. Listen, we see all of your dms about
Speaker 1: guys you want on the show. We see you, we
Speaker 1: hear you. We're trying to accommodate to everything that you're
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