WEBVTT - EP 417: Putting A Limit On ‘Quality Time’ & Insecurities Vs. Boundaries 

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<v Speaker 2>are back for another episode and we haven't really caught.

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<v Speaker 1>Up about much, but we know Mandy got a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we've been saying that now for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>You know things are good.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you guys schedule? So you guys, last

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<v Speaker 2>time I know you saw him. We were in Denver

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<v Speaker 2>for work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm going literally after this trip to La to

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<v Speaker 3>be with him for one of his work things. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he's already looking up flights to come to Atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>to spend another week with me. It's so strange because

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy my space. Even in my last relationship, I

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<v Speaker 3>would see my partner three to four days a week.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a trip I go on where I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be there more than four days. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 3>if it's international or not. Like I literally go to

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<v Speaker 3>Abu Dhabi for my birthday for four days, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I could tell he's having a thing about that because

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, I guess I only get to see you

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<v Speaker 3>for three to four days.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh love you, Madia. I was about to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you stay one more day so we could record

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<v Speaker 1>I get to Las. Yeah, no, I'm leaving. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to go back for work in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>But I literally am like, I know my capacity as

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<v Speaker 3>a person to be around somebody. Like it's to the

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<v Speaker 3>point where even when people started staying with me when

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<v Speaker 3>I still lived here in New York, by after the

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<v Speaker 3>third day, I would get them a hotel like I

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<v Speaker 3>cannot be confined in a space with someone very long,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm very aware of that, and so because we're

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<v Speaker 3>now staying at each other's place, I'm like, O, babe,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the capacity I have, Like vacation with your friends,

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<v Speaker 3>for lord, No, not for more than four days. Literally

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<v Speaker 3>with Crystal, we went to South Africa for four days.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in Asia.

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<v Speaker 3>I was living in Singapore, and we did each stop

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<v Speaker 3>at a different time. But also like in one we'd

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<v Speaker 3>have a villa multiple rooms, and one we'd have multiple

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<v Speaker 3>rooms if there was more than like we wouldn't stay

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<v Speaker 3>in the same room.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well two bedroom keeps me happy. Yeah, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have another bed.

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<v Speaker 3>My second bedroom is a content space and luckily I

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<v Speaker 3>have an upstairs and down there now. But no, I

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<v Speaker 3>realize like how much I need my space. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to talk to him because he's lived with his

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<v Speaker 3>last two exes and so he's used to that confinement

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<v Speaker 3>and being on someone experience for being not young, but

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't. So I am just like trying to tell

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<v Speaker 3>him it's not about you, but to me in order

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<v Speaker 3>to I hate that he takes it as like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with him or putting up with him. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just fully aware that I need space from people. Like

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<v Speaker 3>even Rosie just came and spent a couple of days

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<v Speaker 3>in my house, and before she came, she went and

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<v Speaker 3>stayed with a friend before she even came to my house,

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<v Speaker 3>because I knew how long she was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>in Atlanta. And luckily I have my little discount, but

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<v Speaker 3>I will literally buy somebody a hotel room so that

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<v Speaker 3>they're not in my space. So right now, with being

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<v Speaker 3>that we're commuting to see each other, and again, luckily

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<v Speaker 3>it's been every two to three weeks, so I feel lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like baby four days.

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<v Speaker 1>So when he comes to Atlanta, so much more, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care, Like he literally just booked a flight

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<v Speaker 3>to where he's like, technically it's five but it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's coming in Monday night at like two am,

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<v Speaker 3>so technically that's Tuesday and leaving Friday. To him, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a Monday through Friday. So he's sneaking in a fifth day.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, babe, I don't want you to take

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<v Speaker 3>it like thing. But there's literally nobody in the world

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I want to spend that much time with

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<v Speaker 3>like even my family. I'll go to Orlando and spend

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<v Speaker 3>one day like I I really like my alone time.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like the ability to recharge my social battery.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm fully self aware that I like my space.

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<v Speaker 3>I like my time. I like that and I almost

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<v Speaker 3>need it. It's not even that I like it, I

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<v Speaker 3>need it. And so that's what we're talking about now

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<v Speaker 3>because he's like, babe, we live like on two different coasts,

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<v Speaker 3>Like damn, can I see?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he literally wants me to go see his family.

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<v Speaker 3>In Italy this summer, and I was like, okay, well

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go there for about four days and you can

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<v Speaker 3>stay longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop swear to god.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of get that, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean? Like, no, no, no, that's like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Now if you're with his family for four

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<v Speaker 1>days and then you guys do something else, that's still

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<v Speaker 1>being with him for more, like that is a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I need my and to me, it sounds even stranger

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<v Speaker 3>for me to go stay by myself long vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>You've never taken maybe five days but.

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<v Speaker 4>The partner only five days.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not with the partner, even with friends.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm now even since then, I have my own room,

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<v Speaker 3>like even Deangre's birthday, Like I could call Crystal right now,

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<v Speaker 3>like I kind of want to call it right now

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<v Speaker 3>and be like Crystal and Crystal is who travels with

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<v Speaker 3>me everywhere. That's the longest we've done is four days,

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<v Speaker 3>even going to South Africa. We did Johannesburg for two

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<v Speaker 3>days and came down for two days.

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<v Speaker 1>Four days is like.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally by Max to be around people before I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go off by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I need no that. It's what like Vinnie and I

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<v Speaker 1>have traveled for weeks on end together. Nah, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>done that. He's yeah, we like travel.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's what we used to do we're young,

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<v Speaker 2>laur in Europe or exploring Asia, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when I toured two weeks around. We love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we do is we separate. So if we're

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<v Speaker 2>not in separate rooms, which for most of the time

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<v Speaker 2>at this age now that always happens. But yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>would do his own thing, I'd stay in like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not and him and I And that's why Vinny and

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<v Speaker 2>I are such good friends. We could be in a club,

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<v Speaker 2>lose each other and find each other and not be

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<v Speaker 2>angry and you know some motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, I do that with some people.

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<v Speaker 2>Be like, oh, well, then we came to I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been like that, and maybe that's what helps. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>making me think because so Frianda met somebody and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see a photo and she's like, no, because

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<v Speaker 2>you and my partner living each other's skin, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna tell him and I have to keep it close

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<v Speaker 2>to the chest, that's between me and God until it

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<v Speaker 2>goes forward. And I'm like, I'm not gonna tell him.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, yes, you are. And I remember she came

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<v Speaker 2>back from a date and he was in the house

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<v Speaker 2>and we both had like tell us and yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of our friends feel like that right

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<v Speaker 2>now that we are spending a lot of time together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because there are two different types of people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like one of my friends is dating someone

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<v Speaker 2>who feels the same as your partner, kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>why can't I have more with you when we live

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<v Speaker 2>in two different cities, and he's like, bro, I just

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<v Speaker 2>it's not even about her. I just after a few days,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, ah, I need to be alone. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>about him, and I told him that whereas my partner

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<v Speaker 2>is like, I'm not really feeling that. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like my alone time is needed to recharge. I may

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<v Speaker 2>need a moment of not talking or being having some space,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't feel like that. Even in Thailand we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing we never really had a moment where we

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<v Speaker 2>were feeling like I need a night alone. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's just everyone's temperament. Because my friend that expressed

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<v Speaker 2>that to me was like, bro, I feel so bad

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm in love with her and she thinks I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be around her. However, I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>I said to him, how do you then be with

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<v Speaker 2>someone long term that completely feels invalidated because you can't

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<v Speaker 2>spend that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Time with them? Oh no, they got to take that

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<v Speaker 1>up with a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling him it is not about him, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that that's the problem with dating. I know you

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<v Speaker 3>chuckled a little bit, but to be fair, I'm very

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<v Speaker 3>aware of mil's issue. No, if you feel invalidated, what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, it's not you, it's me needing space.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a human being who has had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>time alone, who spends a lot of time around other people,

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<v Speaker 3>who works a lot in a capacity where I'm constantly

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<v Speaker 3>around other people, I'm fully aware that I need space.

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<v Speaker 3>This has nothing to do with a lack of interest

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<v Speaker 3>to you. This has nothing to do with my investment

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<v Speaker 3>to you. This has nothing to do with how much

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<v Speaker 3>I like you. And it's so funny because we both

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<v Speaker 3>are catching ourselves with the L word right now and

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, ooh, almost said it. I was okay, I baby,

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<v Speaker 3>And we do this thing where we kiss when we

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<v Speaker 3>hang up, and we're both not saying it, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel so adored by this man, like I really

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<v Speaker 3>genuine like him. And it's so crazy because when we're

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<v Speaker 3>like around each other, the PDA is crazy. Like we

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<v Speaker 3>we hug, we hold hands, we have to wrap each

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<v Speaker 3>other around each other, like the forehead kisses the mouth kis.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't like to me, that's not a compromise.

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<v Speaker 3>My compromise is four days and I'm spending money to

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<v Speaker 3>come to la You spend money to come to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>We meet in between. We make these plans.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the idea of missing you, but in this

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<v Speaker 3>space that I'm in where I'm constantly around other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 3>Need my recharge, like and I think that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really enjoying this move right now, because I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>the fomo of being outside in Atlanta, and I literally

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<v Speaker 3>just spend time in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you should see. I'm belave to very laugh because

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<v Speaker 1>like I can feel that because when I'm in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>New York makes me la.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like I have to be outside and

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<v Speaker 3>it's constantly my mind doesn't stop. Oh you should see.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all could talk about me as a cat mom. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care. There's times where I'm literally at the house

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<v Speaker 3>and I will lock Body in a room because he

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<v Speaker 3>just be.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to be up on me. Sometimes, Body go away,

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<v Speaker 1>now hold on, I will put body in a last

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<v Speaker 1>When Mandy said.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's more so of the fact that I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 4>is it down to a tea that you know that

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<v Speaker 4>it is a four day thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like even with traveling. Yes, Like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>Jamaica literally for Labor Day weekend. Y'all, Choco blizz, get

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<v Speaker 3>your tickets now join me there. And it's five to

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<v Speaker 3>seven days.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like you, I don't know if I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go. It's always a long trip.

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<v Speaker 3>Five, Like anything more than four is a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>even for me to be around. Like Crystal, who we

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<v Speaker 3>have a thirteen year friendship. It's literally what I know

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<v Speaker 3>with her, and she had she had a day job,

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<v Speaker 3>like I traveled a lot. Like we even used to

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<v Speaker 3>say there would be days where we wouldn't see each other. Bro,

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<v Speaker 3>I had niggas coming in the house that she never met. Like, Bro,

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<v Speaker 3>how the fuck we live together this long? And I

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<v Speaker 3>ain't never seen this thing. Anything came and knock them down.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm thinking for compromise, and genuinely you care about

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<v Speaker 2>this person.

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<v Speaker 1>He cares about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck the invalidation thing and saying it's an insecurity he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to go on a trip with you Europe is

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<v Speaker 2>far right. Let's just say he's like, yo, I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to spend three days with you and my family

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<v Speaker 2>and three days with us on the beach like in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's a long trek for both of you, especially

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<v Speaker 2>him being in La for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a long trek for me it's six eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But still it's a thing he wants to do with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you because you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's what Eden's making the point of is like you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying it's four days. Maybe could you try to see

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<v Speaker 2>how you can recharge yourself while spending that much time?

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<v Speaker 4>That's actually another reason. Yet you're right, that is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of also why I chuckled a bit because it makes

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<v Speaker 4>me wonder, Okay, how do we get Mandy to day five?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? That is I mean he's trying to figure it out,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's I mean I think I would be trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out how to make this day five happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think we're we're also still so new,

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't want to be in a point like

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. Also when we're around, there's no arguments,

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<v Speaker 3>it's fun Like, I love that. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>get to the point where maybe he sees me so

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<v Speaker 3>early in my funk. I'm fully aware that I need

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<v Speaker 3>a break, girl, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Need a charge a man knowing you get in your moods. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a relationship. He's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>He has seen me get testy with like an uber

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<v Speaker 3>driver or him not. It's funny because he drives in

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<v Speaker 3>LA and I have like a thing about I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do the Ubers because every time in Vegas that he

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<v Speaker 3>even ordered a Uber wrong pin drop and it was

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<v Speaker 3>like we were waiting on a fucking car too long.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just like, I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>But to me, I mean again, I think in relationships,

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<v Speaker 3>I think what's important is self awareness and I think

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people like it. I am being very

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<v Speaker 3>open with what I can, what I can deal.

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<v Speaker 1>With him, what I can, what I can. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know. I know I'm telling.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know you don't know what this person. That's unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not unfair. It's me as a person. It's with

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<v Speaker 2>my ex's with my best friends, it's with my family,

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<v Speaker 2>it's with work. Like and I think that's another thing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like damn, I'm saying what I know about myself and

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<v Speaker 2>people are like, well, maybe you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think it just lacks compromise.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, I think if someone say, if the shoe was

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<v Speaker 2>on the other foot, to know that someone couldn't try

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<v Speaker 2>for you, I think four days in Europe, I get

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<v Speaker 2>what you mean. We have the means to bounce around

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<v Speaker 2>and do what we want to do, but like not

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<v Speaker 2>everybody bounces back like that, like jet lag, time spent

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe he wants to show you more of what

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<v Speaker 2>he's seen. Like, I think it's perfectly normal and okay

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<v Speaker 2>to say, can I get another day or two out

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<v Speaker 2>of you? And you could learn how to recharge? If

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hard no for you, it's a hard no

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<v Speaker 2>for you, But I think being that you have someone

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<v Speaker 2>that you know really cares about you, I think he'd

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<v Speaker 2>be more than willing to help you find that space,

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<v Speaker 2>like and be open to it, like if you really

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<v Speaker 2>need the recharge, because there has to be at some

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<v Speaker 2>point you learn to recharge while around a partner, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think that does have to exist.

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<v Speaker 4>What does that cooled down look like for you? Let's

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<v Speaker 4>say four days happened, and this amongst your partner or

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<v Speaker 4>like your friends us, Let's say like four days happens,

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<v Speaker 4>how do you cool down? And when do you know

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<v Speaker 4>you're ready to see your partner again?

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<v Speaker 1>I literally am home the whole day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like soaking, I take my nap.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's funny because he knows my routine. Like when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm home, I have a three o'clock nap. I like

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<v Speaker 3>having on my pads. I like if I want to

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<v Speaker 3>turn on a TV, I turn it on sometimes I clean,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a literal shut down from everyone, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>might be on the phone till maybe ten am because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like a seven am riser and that's it. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm literally away from crowds and people. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's gotten worse because of the capacity of us,

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<v Speaker 3>even touring the live shows, the constant like dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>multiple teams, you know, like we're in slack.

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<v Speaker 1>I have slack for two other businesses.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's a constant thing to where I literally in

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<v Speaker 3>order for me to show up is my best self.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something that I need and and to me, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>work around it. But that's something that I need. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get to a place where I

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<v Speaker 3>resent somebody over compromiser, being forced to do something that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to. And I think that already dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with the long distance and us finding ways to compromise

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<v Speaker 3>with each other, we are like I even told him,

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<v Speaker 3>like moody shit, I don't really like. So I said, hey, babe,

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<v Speaker 3>if you realize you want a mood we cannot do

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<v Speaker 3>it like I did it when like he has a

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<v Speaker 3>lot going on with work and so even before he

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<v Speaker 3>came to Denver. I was like, if you're in a

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<v Speaker 3>mood and you're not in the best space, I'd rather

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<v Speaker 3>you not come to Denver. Like, I'm also very particular

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<v Speaker 3>with when we finally get to see each other, that

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<v Speaker 3>we have this amazing time together that all of the

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<v Speaker 3>outside noise doesn't bother us enjoying each other. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess that's also my view on partnership, Like I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at our partnership in relationship as being able to exhibit

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<v Speaker 3>and live life together and make memories together. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>also I'm not looking to cohabitate. I'm not looking for marriage,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not looking for kids, and so all of those

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<v Speaker 3>stressors don't exist. We should be able to like, really,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just enjoy each other. I get to do

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<v Speaker 3>that with my friends. I really want to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to do that with my partner.

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<v Speaker 4>Wheezy, Where do you feel like your limit might be

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<v Speaker 4>a first, let's say if we were to like try

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<v Speaker 4>to calculate it both the cool down and like, let's

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<v Speaker 4>say after it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, my limit is actually only social spaces with people I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 4>Time wise, though, Like let's say she gave us four days.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she said she could be Oh no, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be with my partner every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me, there has to be a limit. There's no way, dog,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm okay. So even though I know you're in like livydw,

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<v Speaker 4>but still no some real.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, like I'm very comfortable with him.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to remember also, I lived with someone before,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in Mexico living with old Bay Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course he's a piece of shit, but I wasn't taught.

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<v Speaker 2>I know how to live with someone and not to

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<v Speaker 2>have my own space. I've never lived in a one

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom with someone. I've never had a roommate. Weard enough space,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm pretty good with that. I was actually thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of something when you were talking, because my partner also

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<v Speaker 2>told me he's never spent so much time with someone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I really thought I needed my alone time.

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<v Speaker 2>But we kind of know what to do with each

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<v Speaker 2>other to recharge.

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<v Speaker 1>He said.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a really bad mood. And don't get

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<v Speaker 2>me wrong, we understand when space happens. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>upset about something and he wanted to comfort me, and

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<v Speaker 2>we had plans, and he said, listen, if we were

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<v Speaker 2>living together already, what would you want me to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Go out and sit outside. You want me to go

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<v Speaker 2>stuff myself in the second bedroom. You need to learn

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<v Speaker 2>how to be around me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck Like you're sitting here screaming

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<v Speaker 1>calling me because you need me, but you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>me to see you like this. I'm going to see

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<v Speaker 1>you and show up for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You need some space when we're in the house, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take Nina whatever, but I'm going to see you

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<v Speaker 2>in every emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>And being together for the future, like and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want me to see you like this?

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<v Speaker 1>That was it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I can have you seen me like this?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, oh Na, like this, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what life is. This is what my partnership and me

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<v Speaker 2>giving myself to you is, which is the opposite of me,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think, but I think no one's wrong, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you're wrong at all. This is where

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<v Speaker 2>I I love that we are different. We exist with

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<v Speaker 2>partners that are different or may want different things.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to build on this conversation for sex. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What's interesting about what happened was I, for a moment

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<v Speaker 2>thought what he was doing was wrong, And what I

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<v Speaker 2>realized is that that was a big step for me

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<v Speaker 2>because I was feeling really down, really bad, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't gotten that vulnerable yet. What I was feeling was

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<v Speaker 2>I can never let him see me like this because

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks of me a certain way. So it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like just a bad day, like I need to be

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<v Speaker 2>by myself tonight, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, I'm really hurting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in my past relationships, I have only came

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<v Speaker 2>to partners when I need them.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't let them shown up for me in those moments.

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<v Speaker 2>And I realized that's something that makes him feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we are closer and connected, knowing that we can support

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<v Speaker 2>each other because he wants it from me if he

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<v Speaker 2>needs me. So it's weird because in one way, I've

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<v Speaker 2>definitely seen it as like this face is good, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also can see the other side of hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to know every facet. And it's crazy because Brion

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<v Speaker 2>did and I go back and forth about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>She's who I've talked a lot about this relationship with.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess she's seen it the most hands on, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, Damn, I don't know if I ever want

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<v Speaker 2>to be as in love with someone as the two

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<v Speaker 2>of you are, because I would never let my man

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<v Speaker 2>know I was hurting like this. I would never let

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<v Speaker 2>him know I was feeling ugly or fat or just

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<v Speaker 2>making shit of right now, feeling fat, feeling down about myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I would ever let a man

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<v Speaker 2>see that. And I'm like, I can't believe I did

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<v Speaker 2>let a man see that. On the contrary, we had

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation in front of him, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be with a woman if I couldn't understand

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<v Speaker 2>her completely and fully. I would hate for her to

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<v Speaker 2>have these dark thoughts about herself or something that's going

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<v Speaker 2>on and I can't see it for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Who am I to you? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there another friend that's doing this? Is there a

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<v Speaker 2>place I can't meet?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How is it possible that you're hurting this bad if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the closest person to you and I can't help you.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked a lot about that because when no

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<v Speaker 2>Hol's barred, I was writing it the depression chapter set

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<v Speaker 2>in and he's like, have you ever been depressed? With

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<v Speaker 2>Obay said his name. I was like a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like he couldn't see it or read it,

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<v Speaker 2>And how is it that you thought you were in

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<v Speaker 2>love with someone and you couldn't open up to them,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm hurting, I feel like this. He's like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>telling me you ran in a car to get on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone with a therapist and had a man with

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<v Speaker 2>you that loves you and you didn't say it out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what's crazy? That showed me.

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<v Speaker 2>I may not have been that in love because I

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<v Speaker 2>could tell a friend easy when I need some help.

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<v Speaker 2>But for some reason, in romantic relationships, that vulnerability looks different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird. I even on the opposite sense of that

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<v Speaker 3>had the conversation. I think we actually had this conversation

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast. Like I would go to Crystal or

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<v Speaker 3>It or Carla or my therapist with things, I have

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<v Speaker 3>zero expectations of my partner being somebody to see feel

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<v Speaker 3>here everything that I'm going through. I don't put that

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<v Speaker 3>emphasis on a romantic partner to be someone to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to receive or take in all of my feelings

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<v Speaker 3>of everything that I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think literally I'll text my therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>And be like, oh shit, something's bothering me, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that I may never even tell my partner because

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<v Speaker 3>he's not a podcaster. We even talk about how we're

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<v Speaker 3>in completely different industries. I think that where I'm at,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe I'm leaning more towards this poly like way

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<v Speaker 3>of thinking, I have zero desire for my partner to

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<v Speaker 3>feel or have the expect or the expectations of taking

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<v Speaker 3>me on fully with every feeling, every issue in my life,

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<v Speaker 3>every element of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, he's my romantic partner.

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<v Speaker 3>How we exist is so different than than my relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with my therapist, than my relationship with my mom, than

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<v Speaker 3>my relationship with Crystal and all of my other best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we do need to obviously still keep your

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<v Speaker 2>friendships and shit. I think in this particular conversation I'm having,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more so the vulnerability. It's not like, tell me everything,

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<v Speaker 2>but I need to know when you're going through it

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<v Speaker 2>and when there's pain there, because I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Done that before.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I did not like to show my worse self

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship because I never felt like it would

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<v Speaker 2>be conducive to how they view me, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>me looking raggedy, Like I don't want you to see

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<v Speaker 2>me looking raggedy, But maybe you know what exists without make.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like that was a very interesting turning point

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<v Speaker 2>in learning that I'm with someone that wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>with me for the long haul, because you're carrying in

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<v Speaker 2>a different way. I also understand because if I found

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<v Speaker 2>out my partner was able to come to other people

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<v Speaker 2>about things that they couldn't come to with me, not

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<v Speaker 2>work issues, like a podcasting, something that was deep and

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<v Speaker 2>serious to them, that would.

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<v Speaker 3>Hurt I don't know if that would hurt me. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's the crazy thing. Me and him are having

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<v Speaker 3>these conversations a lot about what it looks like like

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<v Speaker 3>he has a female best friend. We actually just had

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<v Speaker 3>this conversation recently and he was like, I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you're not as invested or don't care, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having to try to see what would you not

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<v Speaker 3>allow because just with with anything like what she looked

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<v Speaker 3>like his best friend is gorgeous doesn't bother me. I

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<v Speaker 3>have I have a lot of I have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of male best friends. And what I'm realizing is he

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<v Speaker 3>has the confusion with my response to a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, oh my god, like I went to

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<v Speaker 3>my best friend's play then dropped her best friend off

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<v Speaker 3>at home and met her family and we all hung

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<v Speaker 3>out and ate dinner before the play, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you asked me how the play was, You asked me

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<v Speaker 3>how the dinner was, and that's it. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>counted if I shared that same story with any of

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 3>my exes, I would have all hell would have broke loose,

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<v Speaker 3>because what do you mean you dropped off another woman home?

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 3>What do you mean you met your female best friends?

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, I actually wasn't allowed to have my

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<v Speaker 3>best friend around in my last relationship because she was

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<v Speaker 3>a woman. And so he's like, I had this conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with my mom trying to figure out what the line is,

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't show up with jealousy and rage and

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<v Speaker 3>arguments over things that.

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 1>In my past relationships sayame too well. But that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I told him, I said, there's no way I

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<v Speaker 3>would show up that way because when I'm out with Keith,

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<v Speaker 3>or I'm on the phone with Ish, or I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>literally my homeboy side came over my house the other

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<v Speaker 3>day for game night.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Babe, I'm around a lot of men.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, there's no way I could show up that

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<v Speaker 3>way because I, in no way would expect your behavior

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<v Speaker 3>to be that way with.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, Wolf, just because you're ho teppye.

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<v Speaker 2>So my partner has told me this is the first

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<v Speaker 2>time he's ever been around a woman that's had so

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 2>many men around. And now you know my homeboys are

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 2>his alex Andre whatever, even my gay male friends.

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bringing this up because when Brie found out my

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<v Speaker 2>male friends were hanging or maybe one needed to stay

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<v Speaker 2>over because I have a two betterman New York, She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>there should be no male female friendship, Like the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>that's way too close. Do you think a woman having

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>close male friends is something you could deal with or

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<v Speaker 2>something that's respectful to a long term relationship?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Ed, and you're on camera? Are you not on

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<v Speaker 1>camera because you laughing? Oh? You ain't no camera, that's

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>why you laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because we have a different male friendships and pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much running our shit the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what.

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<v Speaker 5>You think it got to be, like, absolutely no chance

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<v Speaker 5>humanly possible that there's like some them to see or

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<v Speaker 5>like thoughts about each other. They got to be one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you ever know that? Though? And I see

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<v Speaker 1>this is the conversation Eddon's pointed at me because my

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<v Speaker 1>man is like, all them.

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<v Speaker 2>Niggas want to fuck you, I believe. I don't believe. No, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't take it. If you want to suck they dick,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to fuck them, it would they not

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<v Speaker 2>your brother.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna take some interrogation, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna take terrogation. You would terrogate in the mail front.

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<v Speaker 5>And terrogating everything, asking her what have y'all been through?

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<v Speaker 5>What type of have y'all slept in the same bed,

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<v Speaker 5>like certain things are like good c's and be like

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<v Speaker 5>it's something going on right here, Like y'all sleeping in

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<v Speaker 5>the same bed once before.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a red flag for me sleeping in the same

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<v Speaker 3>bed together. But if there was no sex, nigga, maybe

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 3>we had to keep bed thigg's cuddled before some shit

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<v Speaker 3>like is different than just laying in.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex and I had to share a bed and it

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<v Speaker 2>was awful. We were in Soho house in Israel. They

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<v Speaker 2>had no two beds, and he was like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get the pillow. Good bitch, ain't no what you want

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 2>me to do. But I remember it being weird and

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<v Speaker 2>I was single at the time, and I remember when

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<v Speaker 2>he called his girl. I was like, I can't believe hit.

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 2>This bitch knows I'm right here, Like, is he insane?

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 2>And she's very secure because it wouldn't be me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. You ain't about to sit up

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>in the motherfucking bed with your female best friend and

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you hi, nigga.

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<v Speaker 4>What a contrast?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think there needs to be boundaries. Number one,

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>My partner told me when we first met, like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck are you going to dinner with niggas?

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<v Speaker 1>For what? I go to dinner? I was at that house.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm so confused. I thought this was normal.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Now I see now, I think what's happened now is

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>he's just like maybe because he has a relationship with

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 2>these men, but also I'm bouncing around different cities. I'm

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>catching my homeboys wherever, Like we're talking about work whatever.

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I get it. But he's like, how the fuck would

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you feel about me taking a bit?

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<v Speaker 3>My boyfriend facetimed me he went over his best friend's

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 3>house and she was cooking. She was cooking a lot

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 3>of food, and he went over and her homegirls was

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 3>there and I'm.

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>On face time. It was just He's good.

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>That's his best friend, right, I have I have male

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 3>best friends, So I like to tell her be I used.

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 2>To cook for Alex when we were both single. I'm

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna be honest. This is someone I own a business

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>with and I've been friends with a long time.

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I can understand if I was making a meal for Alex,

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>how that would make my partner feel.

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Right now, yes, now, in his mind, Alex and I

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 2>are always gonna talk about work when we're around each other.

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Now it's just turned into that. But I'm trying to think,

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>what if.

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>It was Andre?

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<v Speaker 4>Now I feel like hypocritical because I'm like, because I.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Do think it's kind of crap. Why are if Andre?

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Because and Andre is the close meal friend I have

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that I don't have networking or work relationships. Right, Andre

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>comes over just for me to cook for him? Now,

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>But y'all closed though, I know, and that's different. That's

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 2>what I'm okay.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 4>See, this is the thing. If a stranger cooked, if

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 4>my girl cooked the cook cooked the meal for another dude,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't really know like that, I'm like, what the fuck?

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 4>If it is like one of her bestest friends, I'd

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 4>be like, Okay, cool, it's not a big deal. Now,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 4>my girl. I could only imagine if someone cooked the

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 4>meal for me in either sense, I could see them.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>But can you see your girl? You have an old man,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>white man.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Did and I was like, okay, mabe good, because you're

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 3>cooking looks like dog.

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Food, So I hope you get that. Well, let me

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you.

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the thing, the only thing, and this

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>is fucked up. I really believe this, and I'm lucky

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>that in these two male relationships it's not the case.

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 2>However it was the case in other ones. It's never

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 2>happened to me with al or Andre, but there's always

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>one that if something was a little different, they would

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So the question is, are you allowed to cook for

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 4>another person?

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>No, do y'all believe that in a male and female dynamic,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 2>there's always one who feels.

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, I'm not gonna lie that me and

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 3>him just it's funny because where I don't exhibit jealousy

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 3>at all, he kind of does. I was telling him

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 3>a story about I'm not gonna say which person, but

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 3>someone in a sex club has made me squirt before, right,

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 3>And I was just at a sex club in Atlanta

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 3>and they were there and my homegirl.

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Got to experience the magical fingers.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 4>And so I'm feeling you can't say magical fings magical fingers,

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 4>like if I was your man hearing this and I

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 4>just heard my girl talk about magical fingers sperms.

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Anyway, what's crazy is so I'm telling him that,

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, I h and he was like, we're gonna

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 3>put a pin in this because I feel away.

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean you were just in the room

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>with someone who had fingered you.

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Before, And I was like, yeah, the op a tough,

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 3>and I said, and when he fingered me, nigga, it

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 3>was with and with the permission of my ex boyfriend

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 3>in a sex cluff.

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm your relationship today as it stands. Can you get

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>could you have gotten fingered by him?

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh? I'm not gonna lie, And maybe y'all to hear

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 3>more of it on Patreon. I literally went out the

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<v Speaker 3>other night and literally text him sub drunk, babe, what's

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 3>our boundaries again? Because I want to eat pussy tonight

0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 3>and I literally fucked someone the girl, and well, no, no, no,

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 3>right now, it's just women. He's even said, Babe, if

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 3>we have so much time apart, and you have the urge.

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 3>I would want you to share with me that urge

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 3>to see a man, because I'll probably try to book

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 3>the next flight out. But if we're in a space

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>where like he's looking at a role right now, that

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 3>might take him to Europe for months, and she's like,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I can't get to Europe because maybe we're on tour.

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<v Speaker 1>I let him know.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have that conversation, but you could have sex, and baby,

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>if I'm in the need, I'm gonna need some too.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think he has the same sexual appetite of

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<v Speaker 2>like wanting to fuck other people.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 3>No, he's told me he doesn't. Okay, that's on him.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I like, I mean, I like women, which is why

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 3>like I did. I hit him up and was like, babe,

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I really want to like be with a woman tonight.

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>But right now he doesn't want you to sex with

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>other men? No, no, no, no no. But I don't

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>need to. Like even the way he's like the flowers.

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Woman, I just want to say, well, no, he ain't

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 3>got a pussy, so I'm completely different. Like sex and

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 3>intimacy with a woman is way different than a man,

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 3>which is why I've said, we are non monogamous, and

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 3>an element of that is because when and if I

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 3>have the desire to be with a woman, I don't

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>want that cage the way. I just love that shit though, Yeah,

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 3>I think the real part of it, No, they also

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 3>love it when it's when they can be a part

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 3>of it.

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Mind you.

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I also so he asked me about the like, so, baby,

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 3>did you get pussy last night? I said yeah. He

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 3>was like, ooh, tell me about her. I said, it

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 3>was my friend and me and her just went and

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>got food the other night. And so even him, he's.

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, she was really touchy on you. But I'm like, nigga,

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, we fuck. So that's my friend.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 3>He's having to get used to the fact that, well,

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 3>I've fucked quite a.

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Bit of my friends.

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Like he's about to meet one in La Babe, we've

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 3>had sex before, like, and so now he's like, I

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 3>want to know who you've had sex with before, even

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 3>if I meet them, And I said.

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh, I think that's a good rule. Yeah, I

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>think that's fine. Girl.

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 2>We just went out to some I'm a piano party

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>of love little house and I'm like, it was so funny.

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn, that girl looks so cute and familiar.

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I thought she was like an influencer. So he's looking

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>invarits and I'm like, what's wrong?

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Is that the bitch you fucking the parking lot that

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>one time? And then a second later I'm like, oh,

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I went out with that n again. He's like, who

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the fuck are we?

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Bro?

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 2>We just think that we can't go nowhere, And I

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 2>love having that, but I will say I like knowing

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be around no bitch.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying what's up too? Because I'm a cool ass bitch.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Bro, you told me you was fucking a bitch last

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>week when I was out of town. As long as

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm okay, I'm very very comfortable. The sneakiness

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 2>is what I can't do knowing that I could be

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>around somebody that you are keeping.

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>You're holding this from so you I don't know, man,

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I just.

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 4>What's a good time to tell your said partner about this?

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 4>By the way, what do you mean.

0:33:58.480 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>If we're in a space, Let's just say we go

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>out to a restaurant bar, tell them.

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 4>Because I've had scenarios like this before, were you before too?

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, okay, yeah, so I've had a partner, and

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 4>then she was around on the girl that yeah you

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 4>don't let me comnicated with, and then so okay, so okay,

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 4>so I got to do it there.

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, ah, oh you should have seen the way me

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 3>and me and my boyfriend just been telling stories and

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 3>I brought up somebody and he was like, ah, that's

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 3>relationship with that person.

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>So then he brings someone else up, and I.

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Had to be like, you remember how you were weird

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 3>about me because they were celebrities.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, ah, you want to know how

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>it was weird? I brought up that girl, Oh I'm

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.240
<v Speaker 1>adjacent to Oh yeah, that guy that you just mentioned.

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>We kind of fucked.

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's so funny because he was like, I'm actually

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 3>kind of shocked. I mean we kind of fucked. I

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 3>kind of kind of let him put it in. Yeah,

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>we kind of it was only like a two time thing.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 3>And here he goes because you know, he was like,

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 3>would you really.

0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 2>He said, what would you want to know if you

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>were in the same space or would you want to

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>know later space?

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>You're even one of his work events.

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's say there's a colleague he slept with, or a

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 2>woman that's in the field.

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Would you want to know if you guys are around

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 2>her all night or would you want to know later?

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a boundary with that that you know yet?

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Let me know what changes anything?

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm saying, Mandy, but when would you feel weird

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>if he told you the next day, next week?

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I was there three to three.

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it depends if we are talking to each other.

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 3>If it's a woman who's just in the room that

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a connect, she comes up and you know,

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm introduced to her at that moment.

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>When she leaves us, maybe tell me because now I've been.

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>So you want to know in the place, if we've interacted. Yeah,

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 2>that's the point.

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>If she's just in the room. So Macie, you point

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>out everybody that you've fucked in the room. If I like,

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I might not have even.

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Seen there shouldn't be that many people in the room.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 2>But I will say I've never seen him ignore someone

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 2>he slept with. Generally speaking, he'll tell me, oh that

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>girl over there, and he'll always say.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Oh, I ain't gonna hold you the whole nigg

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 3>is Hey, if you see me with a nigga. Do

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 3>not come up and speak to me. Do not disrespect

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 3>We are not together. If I am with another nigga,

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie. I think it's petty and stiff, disrespectful.

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 3>What if we fucked before and I'm outside with another nigga,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 3>do not text me, d M me or I meant me,

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 3>say you saw me in the room.

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's kind of why the fun out of here?

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>That's weird.

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 4>It's weird, like the dude texting her you know.

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I saw you, but I've seen you was happening and

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>say hello. No, no, no, even I was in Nobo. I

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>was a nobu before I got with my boyfriend.

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Nope, you're saying, don't say hello, Hello, I don't know

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 2>say hello.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 4>Fuck No, why why you want to know?

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 3>If you're across the room and you see me on

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 3>a dat or with somebody and all we did was fun.

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's be very clear, y'all know a bitch only got walk.

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 3>I fucked and you see me out with another nigga,

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:54.439
<v Speaker 3>do not make yourself be known.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Do not come and say hi. Keep your ass across

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the room. I mean, if I do here, you got

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 1>me fucked up. There's no reason if all we did.

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 3>Was fuck, which again, y'all know I got one x

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 3>everybody else situationships buck boys do not come and speak

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 3>to me another say nothing. So no, if I see

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.439
<v Speaker 3>a man from across the room that I slept with

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 3>who is clearly out with another woman, I'm making my

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 3>way to go over there to say hi.

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I say hi.

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna I'm saying, don't getting proximity like at

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 2>the bar, or I'm not gonna.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Not like it.

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 3>But no, no, no, That's why I just think that I

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>distinctively said, if we are across the room, there's no

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 3>reason for you to make your way to come say hi.

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I wouldn't do this. I have a

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>thing of I'm pretty okay with coexisting when people are fucked.

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh me too, we can coexist.

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 3>If I am there with another man, do not come

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 3>in and introduce yourself.

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 4>So you guys are two completely different personalities. Clearly, what

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 4>would be the how do I say it to you?

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Right and we're in I'm in the vicinity of a

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 4>woman that I've pornicated with, and I'm with you right now.

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I fucked her.

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 4>That sounds a little too easy, and I don't want

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 4>to fall into that job.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't well to me.

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 3>To me, it depends your expectations if you've already had

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the previous conversation.

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Literally bring up babe.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 3>You know you remember how we said if we were

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 3>in a space, you would want to know if I

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 3>had sex with anyone in the room. Well, the girl

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 3>over there, it was years ago. You don't have to

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 3>worry about it.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>We don't even talk to me. I just want to

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>tell you. But I mean, even if it was, well,

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have been last week. This is you're in

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a relationship.

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 3>You've discussed these boundaries right then it becomes that. But again,

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 3>you've had the conversation, so you preface it with the

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 3>same way I did.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Babe, what was our boundary again? About women? You want

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to know before or after?

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 3>That's literally what I text them while I was out

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and he was like, Babe, you about to And I said, yeah,

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I really want some tonight.

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>And I told him about it the next day.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 4>This is my son in high school ish. But now,

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 4>if what if you didn't fuck her, what if you

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 4>made out with her before.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Made out date? You could say we dated. I mean

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a loose term. Now, I still had those warnings.

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 2>There was a DJ that I really wanted to go

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 2>see and he was like just letting you know, my

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a finger popping and some shit and all that.

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>So then I'm not buying tickets. You get them.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's great, A bitches fire.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck. We still go.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I feel it's like this, right, I'm

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 2>speaking from a slight place of privilege in this moment

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>because of the status of my relationship. However, I've definitely

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 2>been in scenarios where I wasn't in a committed relationship.

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I was just dating and I felt like not as secure.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>When someone makes you feel secure, it's easy to feel easy,

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>breezy about other women. Men make women feel invalidated a

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 2>lot of the time about their place in their life

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, or just feeling like their eyes are on

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.439
<v Speaker 2>other women, whatever the case may be. So it does

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>take a lot of confidence to get there. So I

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know if everyone can feel that in this particular moment.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Who's listening if it happens, But what I I would

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.240
<v Speaker 2>say definitely talking about respect and how you'll be treated

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 2>in those spaces that's happened to me a lot. I've

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>always thought to myself, Oh my god, what if we're

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 2>at a show and this Nikka fucked one of the

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 2>people in the audience, right, How would that make me feel?

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>What do we do? How do we carry it on?

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Especially being that he's fucked women I'm fans of, that's

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird. But also at the same time, it's

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 2>not you guys are hot people. Of course you fucked

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 2>some model bitches out here, duh. So I think it's

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>really just like, how will we conduct ourselves in these spaces?

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>What will we do?

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 3>It's also not the conducting in space. I think what

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm realizing with my partner now is the unhealthy level

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 3>of toxicity that exists in relationships, in terms of, oh,

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 3>you only think I care if I showcase jealousy. You

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 3>only think I care if I'm arguing with you about this,

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 3>and that, like the fact that he's like, baby, you

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 3>don't get mad at me when I'm doing things that

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 3>other women have got mad about, and I'm like, babe,

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 3>you have to realize like that those were women who

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 3>led with their insecurity or brought their traumas into a

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 3>relationship that just because I'm not getting upset doesn't mean

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I care less for you.

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>That's not true. If a woman is upset about him

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>eating at his best friend's house, that doesn't mean she's insecure.

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Well to me, if it's if it's a woman, it

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 3>could be a trauma because maybe an ex fucked their

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 3>last you know, his last one.

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>But you can have a boundary without being insecure.

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 3>To me, though, the element of platonic friendships being a

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 3>quote unquote boundary for people, I do think that that

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.280
<v Speaker 3>is a toxic insecure trick.

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 2>People should people are allowed to have. We are so

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.399
<v Speaker 2>far on the non ethical, non monogamy scale. I think

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>we forget normal, possible regular boundaries for some, but I

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of but normally, no, they don't. People

0:41:55.560 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 2>can have boundaries and they're not labeled as insecure. For example,

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 2>you know your person has a platonic friend cool. Maybe

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 2>the boundaries being in the home. Maybe you just don't

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 2>want your man going to that woman's home and her

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>coming into his. That's totally fine as a boundary. I

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 2>don't have that one.

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It needed to you.

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't make someone insecure because they have that boundary.

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 2>The levels of respect that people have for each other

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 2>or want for themselves doesn't make them insecure. Because I

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 2>want my man and I to talk openly about sex

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 2>or right now we're monogamish, that doesn't make me insecure.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I think insecure is one of the.

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Words that have such a negative connotation, that there's insecurities

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 3>we all hold. If the insecurity is because this person

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 3>is of the opposite sex, where is that semming from

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 3>that you have no problem with him going over his

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 3>boy's house.

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I think when I bring up.

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 3>The insecurity, it is the lack of trust and the

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 3>inability to view one Let me finish, because if the

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 3>only difference is this person can't do this with a

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:57.720
<v Speaker 3>female friend but he could do it with a male friend,

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.359
<v Speaker 3>there's an insecurity or of trust. I'll use that since

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 3>there's such a such a stigma around the word insecure.

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:08.720
<v Speaker 3>But I think that when we act as though people

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 3>of opposite genders can't hold these platonic relationships, or you

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 3>don't trust your partner to not slide.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Or the woman's slide.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 3>If they can do something with their male friends that

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 3>they're not allowed to do with their female friends, I say,

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 3>and this is my opinion alone, again, everyone has one,

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 3>an opinion and an asshole.

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 1>You could disagree with me here, but I'm not wrong.

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not wrong.

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I believe and I perceive it to be an insecurity

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 3>if the boundaries are only associated to friends of the

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 3>opposite So.

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Then since you consider it a lack of trust, can

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 2>he sleep over? Then can he go on vacation with her?

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>No? No?

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 2>No, Because to your point, if going in the home

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 2>is the insecurity boundary, then where do you draw a line?

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Because if you have none, then you have none. But

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I actually think that's really unfair to say, because yes,

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 2>there needs to be boundaries. I agree with boundaries in

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 2>a relationship. I agree with that, So I'm not just

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 2>agreeing with that. Or how come a boundary for what

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 2>I want within a platonic friendship is lacked? Is me

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 2>lacking trust in you? Or being insecure? That's a boundary.

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.400
<v Speaker 2>A boundary is not an insecurity.

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>No, there's not.

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 3>But again, when you're in a romantic relationship, you also

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 3>and everything is customizable, so boundaries don't necessarily aren't necessarily

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 3>an umbrella over a friendship or relationship.

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Should your line be what is he not allowed to

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>do with his platonic friend.

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, go on an international trip with just him.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Andre and we're friends. So did you do that? Did

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you do that while you were in a relationship. I

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>went to South Africa with him and his own boy.

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 3>So that's a group setting. We literally just had a

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 3>group setting. To me, is fine if someone else will

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 3>be there. We literally just had this conversation. He's like, Babe,

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 3>if if my best friend I won't say her name,

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 3>wanted me to join her and Antiga because you're going

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 3>to Dreamville, could I do it?

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:57.439
<v Speaker 1>I said, Well, who else is going to be there?

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 3>I said, if it's a group thing, if it's a

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 3>birthday trip, if for if her friends are going to

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 3>be there, go.

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So they can go to Miami, but they can't go

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 1>to Antigue Like no, it's literally an international trick, but

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. So they can go to Miami together.

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:09.799
<v Speaker 3>It's like we're all walking the carpet together with him,

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 3>and like a boundary would be like, no, she can't

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 3>walk the carpet with you because I'm.

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 1>There, and I don't why actually that we're going to

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>be there together.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I think you haven't been put into place yet to

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>feel uncomfortable, but you are really expressing boundaries like no,

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's sizable but right, But what you're

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:30.800
<v Speaker 2>saying could be an insecurity. Then to your point, your insecurity,

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 2>you have a lack of trust international, No, it's just

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.720
<v Speaker 2>something you don't like because you can feel disrespected, whereas

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 2>other people can feel that alone in.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>A home with someone.

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.919
<v Speaker 2>The way that you can feel respected in your relationship

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily mean it's an insecurity.

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 1>And you're saying that there's a buzzword on the insecurity.

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.800
<v Speaker 3>But if there's also a buzzword on lack of trust, again,

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 3>that's not good.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.240
<v Speaker 1>But both things can exist both.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm fine with saying, as a human being we

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 3>have insecurities, I'm fine with as a human being saying

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:03.399
<v Speaker 3>when we're in relationships there may be elements of lack

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 3>of trust because in different scenarios you may be tested differently.

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a problem with her cooking for you.

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Do I want y'all to be five days getting drunk

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 3>together on an island together?

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>No, And I as a human being can.

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Express and admit that maybe that comes from my mind

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 3>working and feeling like this whole trip may not be innocent,

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 3>So no, that would be a boundary of an insecurity

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 3>always got.

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 1>A meal to make it a trip to go on?

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Hell no, now, Wolf, I'm a gonna throw it to you.

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 2>What do you think would be a boundary or something

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 2>you may have within platonic friendships? Just to hear from

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 2>a man's perspective, because again, Mandy and I are I

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like really loose with our boundaries, nigga.

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Lunch a boundary that I would have for platonic friends

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:55.840
<v Speaker 5>in the.

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Relationship, your girl has a guy best friend, what are

0:46:59.160 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>they allowed to do or not?

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 1>He's got tickets to again?

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I got one for you.

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 5>I got one for you right now. If y'all hanging out,

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 5>I would feel most comfortable if you let me know

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 5>before I would feel you know, I don't want to

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 5>put too much yellow tape around this one, but like

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:17.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to hear like oh me and Joseph

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 5>when it had drinks, you know what I mean? Like,

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 5>I would prefer you let me know. I just feel

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 5>more for incluted, you know what I mean? Something like that.

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.439
<v Speaker 5>But I've dealt with that in a relationship. I've dealt

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 5>with that in a relationship before where the nigga came

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 5>and told me like, hey, yo, like we're gonna all

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 5>get drinks later today And I was like, what you're

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 5>talking about? What you're talking about? And I felt dumb,

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean? And I didn't have a

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 5>problem with him, but it was just like in the

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 5>way I like to run my relationships, like come and

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 5>make sure I'm comfortable with that first, because I would

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 5>absolutely do the same thing to you.

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:46.959
<v Speaker 3>What's crazy about that is though it's the simple thing

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 3>of I mean, communication is key. We've been saying that

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 3>since probably the beginning of time on this podcast, but

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 3>people have in telling sometimes their partner what they're gonna do,

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 3>a lot of times we perceive that it's gonna be

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 3>an argument before we even do it, so we don't

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 3>feel the need to communicate it because we don't want

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 3>the argument or we don't want the conflict, when in reality,

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 3>so much can be resolved if you just communicate that

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 3>this is what you're about to do. I also think

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of people don't. Yeah, they're not leaving

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 3>the space for you to communicate that.

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I remember the first time my partner told me about

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 2>sex with someone else, So I was. I told him

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to know before, and it was a I

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.280
<v Speaker 2>think I was away and he sent me a message

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, baby, I'll talk to you later.

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 2>And he called me later that night and we started

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 2>talking normal and he's like, okay, no, and you're gonna

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 2>ask me like when are we.

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Gonna do this? Like it was it was weird.

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 2>It was it was like kind of uncomfortable because it's

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 2>such a new thing, like how do you learn each

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:50.840
<v Speaker 2>other's boundaries?

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 1>How do you learn what to do? How do you

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>learn how to tell someone you're gonna fuck someone else? Like?

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>And I honestly think the uncomfortability for him was probably

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 2>why you an't really do it again, because it's just like, damn,

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 2>this is something that maybe I don't enjoy, Like maybe

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I can't really handle how this feels. Maybe it does

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 2>feel like a cheat because that is one of my rules.

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to know before, just like a platonic friend

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 2>hangout right. I think being the open space for wanting

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to be told about news is what all of us

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 2>need to do. Ladies, if you have a friend, if

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 2>you have a guy who wants to hang with his

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 2>homegirl but ends up telling you later. I totally agreeab Wolf,

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I agree, let me know before. Like, but then when

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 2>he tells you, you're like, oh, you're gonna bee an

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:32.760
<v Speaker 2>average again.

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm me.

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 3>It's not even I don't normally tell him everything before,

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 3>but if he calls me, I'd pick up like, hey, babe,

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 3>this is who I'm with, and I introduce and I'd

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.240
<v Speaker 3>be like, this is my boyfriend, like like, my boyfriend

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 3>has met almost everyone on FaceTime.

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Gets so annoyed with that.

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I know he would be like, bitch, on the fuck

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:52.879
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get on a god to be a phone

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I called you. It's so crazy because it's different strokes.

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.839
<v Speaker 2>I could see if I'm sitting with a dude and

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I answer my call, Hey, this is my friend Mark,

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 2>he works at Netflix. We just gotta drink together, he'd

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 2>be like, okay, bitch, I'm calling you.

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Get back on this phone.

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Like I wouldn't like him to do me to know

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 2>bitch either. That wouldn't make me feel good. I mean,

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but to me, it takes the guard down of it

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>being something. I mean, you just said you have to

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 2>tell him when you're with a platonic friend.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that I didn't say I have to. Oh,

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I said I would like that.

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, while I'm out, I'm not telling anybody my

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 3>everyday move because sometimes shit is last minute and I'm

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 3>not asking for permission and I'm not. So if I'm

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 3>out and you call me, hey, babe, I'm out. This

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<v Speaker 3>is my friend right now, this is so, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I'll call you when I get home. Muh like to me,

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<v Speaker 3>I would appreciate that, even from him, because now, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>You know exactly what I'm doing. I'll hit you when

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<v Speaker 1>I leave them. Host don't want to suck that dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something. I don't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>That hole can sit here and be like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>when you come tow La, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Make you fucking curry chicken too, bitch, put it up

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<v Speaker 2>your asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck. Them hoes be sneaking. They'd

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<v Speaker 1>be lying. Any niggas be lying, and that is why

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<v Speaker 1>you need to buy no host bar. We were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you all what what.

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<v Speaker 2>To do and where we learn from our mistakes. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you guys really enjoyed this episode. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>loved talking about this because even though we have so

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<v Speaker 2>much of the same, like because I'm the same way right,

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<v Speaker 2>go out with your homegrown and give a fuck nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>We have so much of the same ethical nominogamy ideals,

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<v Speaker 2>but very different structures and rules around what makes us

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<v Speaker 2>feel safe and comfortable in a relationship. Absolutely, it's so interchangeable,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, I just I've told you recently

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<v Speaker 2>and I've said it a few times in horrible I

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<v Speaker 2>hate the recent E and M talk because I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't think people know what they're doing. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they know how to express what they want, how they

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<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable. I think that everybody's just kind of seeing

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<v Speaker 2>what fits.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I'm also with someone who has never

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<v Speaker 3>even thought to be in it. He's he's very monogamous,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's open to figuring out how my mind works

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<v Speaker 3>and how to feel safer in expressing things that in

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<v Speaker 3>previous relationships he didn't have the autonomy too. And I

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<v Speaker 3>love it for us, like I'm excited about us exploring

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<v Speaker 3>these things together, explore. But again, I think it's also

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<v Speaker 3>very again customizable. He's probably not someone that will feel

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<v Speaker 3>as comfortable in a sex club as my previous partner.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's fine because I've also been to three sex

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<v Speaker 3>clubs since we've been together, and I've got to express

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<v Speaker 3>and tell him all the things and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like that, but I like it's very he

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<v Speaker 1>would enjoy it. Seems like he loves he would hate it. No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you care about someone very much, you

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy watching them have a great time. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that when he sees how comfortable you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Be, it reminds me of the conversation with King Noir

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<v Speaker 3>he said he hated pretty Ricky. If you got a

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.800
<v Speaker 3>friend that you want to go enjoy pretty Ricky with,

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<v Speaker 3>go enjoy it. And I'm not gonna try to say, bitch,

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<v Speaker 3>I am pretty Ricky. I wouldn't even want to bring

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<v Speaker 3>my man into a space where he could ruin it

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<v Speaker 3>for me, because I know how even I describe it,

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<v Speaker 3>he seems so uninterested.

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<v Speaker 1>I you don't have to come. This is something that

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<v Speaker 1>I am tour. Probably not, Why would they not? You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna bring him on? And I don't know, probably

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<v Speaker 1>doubt it.

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<v Speaker 3>You could go bring that baby dad. I'm surprised because

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<v Speaker 3>he came to Denver, YEP. And you didn't meet him

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<v Speaker 3>there where it's to meet your boyfriend. Would wouldn't meet

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<v Speaker 3>your boyfriend. I'm keeping him very suburb I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say you were begging. I'm just saying where

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<v Speaker 3>we're at, we're gonna I'm gonna keep him very very

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<v Speaker 3>opposite of my business and work outside of this premiere,

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<v Speaker 3>we're agreeing to do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, y'all go ahead and check us out on patreon

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<v Speaker 2>dot com backslash Horrible Decisions, and we will see you

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<v Speaker 2>next week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Bye ah.