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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Really,

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Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Okay? You know

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Speaker 1: I love this part overrated? Underrated? So Larissa from NAT

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Speaker 1: stop the show, don't get me started. Okay, So I

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Speaker 1: think that what's overrated is like backlashers, you know, like

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Speaker 1: people today we're posting all of these selfies with their

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Speaker 1: I voted stickers, and then of course I was like,

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Speaker 1: how many seconds till the first backlasher posted there at all?

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm an edge lord status word No where They're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I love how we reward ourselves for doing the basic

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Speaker 1: minimum of democracy by posting a s oh narcissism combined

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Speaker 1: with democracy that is so American, And I was like,

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Speaker 1: Jesus fucking Christ. Shut the people have to you know,

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Speaker 1: I think what you're calling that has but it is

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Speaker 1: a very specific thing where it's like they get the

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Speaker 1: very front end of a trend that is just a

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Speaker 1: positive thing and just have to jump in, like what's

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Speaker 1: the contrarian angle. I can take on a thing that

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Speaker 1: everyone is just appreciating and enjoying, right, and it annoys

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Speaker 1: me that it becomes a thing like for example, like

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Speaker 1: you know, people going, uh talking about the doors sucking.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, objectively, they're a fucking you just don't

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Speaker 1: have to like them. That's fine. Let's just be like

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Speaker 1: suddenly they're trash fucking suck. Yeah, it's just like the Backlashers,

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Speaker 1: and they have a big there's a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of doors hit in this building. People

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's very close band to my family. You

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Speaker 1: know them. Yes, I think they're a great band when

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Speaker 1: you're a certain age. And then dude, I'll straight up

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Speaker 1: stand for sublime. I was just at a three eleven concert. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can't. I feel like the Backlasher is a social

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Speaker 1: media thing that has taken the place of what used

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Speaker 1: to be like newspaper columnists, Like newspaper columnists used to

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Speaker 1: be like what's the like the andy, Like now, why

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Speaker 1: do we have to have these stickers? Like that is

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Speaker 1: a take you would normally get like back in the day,

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Speaker 1: and like the on the Life and Style section of

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Speaker 1: the fucking USA today. I feel like it's almost like

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Speaker 1: the nineties turned up to an eleven where we were

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Speaker 1: all like into Chandler and we were like Daria, We're like, oh, starcasm,

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Speaker 1: that's the way. And now it's come back like as

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Speaker 1: like a horrible deformed monster where it's just just just

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Speaker 1: like horrible and so bad. So yeah, so that that

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Speaker 1: kind of love that I love that overrated? What is

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Speaker 1: your underrated? My underrated? Is um liking things a medium amount? Okay,

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Speaker 1: because I think that's what's been like lost in this

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Speaker 1: like going black and white about anything all the time,

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Speaker 1: and these headlines and like the you know, people going

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Speaker 1: for clicks by being like this is the greatest thing.

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Speaker 1: This is the worst. Yeah, I hate that. Sorry. I

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Speaker 1: don't mean it's fine, Oh god, strong anything, Most things

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Speaker 1: are fine. No, here's the thing. No, I think we

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Speaker 1: can feel strongly about things. But I think, like the

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Speaker 1: that Haunted Hill show right now that everybody's talking about,

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Speaker 1: I watched it. I feel a medium amount about it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was good, it was fine. But

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Speaker 1: I can't post that because like people are gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: are you kidding me? That was the best thing? I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. I killed my mother right after seeing it,

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Speaker 1: and guess what, didn't care at all feel great. That

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Speaker 1: didn't even compare to the ship I saw in the net.

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Speaker 1: And now it's just like I just want to be

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Speaker 1: able to like things a medium amount and then when

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Speaker 1: we talk about things for me to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was okay, and people are like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: You're right, that was okay. You know, just let allot

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Speaker 1: of people to have their opinions, you know, if they

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Speaker 1: don't like it full bore, like you whatever, like that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make that doesn't make your point less valid or

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Speaker 1: there's you know, I think people just look at it

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Speaker 1: like in this comparative way. I think it um dumbs

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Speaker 1: down the level of our cultural discourse. That's really why

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Speaker 1: I don't like it, because I would like to be

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Speaker 1: able to talk about a movie or a person or

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Speaker 1: an opinion and say, you know, hey, I think so

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Speaker 1: and so's politics on this are great, but I think

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Speaker 1: that is pretty problematic instead of every headline being like

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Speaker 1: is a saint who immediately, you know, inevitably is going

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Speaker 1: to become um a piece of garbage next week when

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Speaker 1: you find out something from their browser history that you

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Speaker 1: able for us to just be realistic video game fans

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Speaker 1: who are notoriously even measured basically threatened to kill someone

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Speaker 1: for giving Red Dead redemption to like an okay score.

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Speaker 1: They were like it's good, and people got real mad

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Speaker 1: at this is the asshole who's bringing down the meta score. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I told him. I was like, yo, if when I

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Speaker 1: see it's ugly, you could bet that, Like that's stupid

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Speaker 1: y'all reviewer where you go and you're like, oh, this

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Speaker 1: restaurant has all five star reviews, but there's this one

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Speaker 1: star and you read it. It's like it started on

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Speaker 1: just ever four to my daughter was born. And then

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Speaker 1: you're like keep scrolling and they're like, we came there

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Speaker 1: for her graduation. They were not able to accommodate her

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Speaker 1: alovera allergy one and you're like, what full somebody? Those

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Speaker 1: are just people having bad days. Yeah, like dude, get

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Speaker 1: a hug. Or someone's like, oh, you tried to set

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Speaker 1: up a date for your girlfriend and you funked up

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Speaker 1: earlier in the night and y'all were still mad. So

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Speaker 1: your Yelp review is about how they fucked up your

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Speaker 1: anniversary when the problem was you panicked booked this restaurant

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Speaker 1: because you've forgotten. Your use of the word accommodate in

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Speaker 1: your fake Yelp review is so on point. They use

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Speaker 1: accommodate like five times in review that the chronic Yelp

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Speaker 1: reviewers they would care about their customers can't stay, don't.

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Speaker 1: I guess the customer is wrong in this sense, or

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Speaker 1: it'll be like something you could never expect from where

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Speaker 1: they're at. You know, they'll go to a concert and

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Speaker 1: like their supporter potties and I'll be like, what do

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Speaker 1: you mean the porter party smelled like someone pooped in

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Speaker 1: a hole. Yeah, bitch, someone just pooped in a hole.

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Speaker 1: What were you thinking is gonna happen? We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the elections that are happening tomorrow. The New

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Speaker 1: York Times kind of did a recap of where we're

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Speaker 1: at with the house, uh, and you know they they

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Speaker 1: acknowledged up top. It was on their podcast The Day

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Speaker 1: Dy or Day I don't know, I don't know. Michael

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Speaker 1: Berber familiar, Yeah, Michael barbera podcast, some third grade podcasts,

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Speaker 1: some third grade daily news podcast where they acknowledge up

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Speaker 1: top you know that we had it wrong. We said

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Speaker 1: chance that Hillary wins heading into things and people were

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Speaker 1: just like, well, that's pretty good we win uh and

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Speaker 1: didn't bother to vote enough, but they're pulling. Expert pointed

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Speaker 1: actually where the Democrats are when it comes to taking

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Speaker 1: the House. There at about on uh and UH, the

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Speaker 1: twenty three Republican seats. They need to take away twenty

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Speaker 1: And he said they've they're comfortable and about twelve and

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Speaker 1: then there are these thirty that are too close to

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Speaker 1: call and they're not getting any more democratic as we

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Speaker 1: approached the election. Now that might sound like, okay, well

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Speaker 1: the odds are in democrats favor because you know, let's

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Speaker 1: say they're all toss ups. It'll go fifty fifty. That's

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Speaker 1: still enough to get to twenty three. Except he pointed

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Speaker 1: out that's not how national house elections work. A lot

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Speaker 1: Uh So, you know, that begs the question, what trends

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Speaker 1: may they be reacting to this election? And they kind

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Speaker 1: of gave their ideas and they still made it sound

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Speaker 1: like a toss up. But I just feel like worst

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Speaker 1: case but very realistic scenario, And the one that I

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Speaker 1: find the most convincing is that this Trump fearmongering and

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Speaker 1: around like an axmer have probably worked. Like they've successfully

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Speaker 1: recreated the conditions of two thousand sixteen. The Kavanaugh thing

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Speaker 1: basically recreated the protect our white men way of life,

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Speaker 1: And Trump has, you know, brought back all of the

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Speaker 1: racist stuff and the immigration stuff. And arguably he's been

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Speaker 1: more successful this time because he is the president now

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Speaker 1: and back then we were like, oh, he's just some

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Speaker 1: But Republicans are going to vote. There was a point

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Speaker 1: his approval rating is rebounding everywhere, and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like weather, Democratic voters are also going to turn out

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Speaker 1: an unprecedented numbers, um And it really comes down to millennials,

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Speaker 1: that's right. But millennials are just passing baby boomers for

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Speaker 1: like it's there for the taking. But there's a poll

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Speaker 1: they're definitely going to vote, which isn't enough millennials have

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Speaker 1: ship followed, Yeah, you a third is not good? Like

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Speaker 1: even to the point about the all the uh toss

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Speaker 1: to look into that means that there's some kind of

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Speaker 1: it to. But yeah, I think there's another thing that

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Speaker 1: lot of those seats is like, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Post poll that was like, oh, it's things are getting tight.

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Speaker 1: We don't know about those blue wave thing, but they

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Speaker 1: and we're back, Miles. We're talking black metal music, first

426
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Speaker 1: metal for black people, not metal dark. Yes, have you

427
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Speaker 1: ever been to a UK record store where just like

428
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Speaker 1: rap and R and B are just titled black music

429
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Speaker 1: Really Swear to Go, I mean back in like two

430
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Speaker 1: thousand oh cool with the entire section of the record

431
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Speaker 1: store was called over at the h m V. Yeah,

432
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Speaker 1: well no, there was a researcher who was trying to

433
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Speaker 1: figure out like what the appeal was of black metal

434
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: music because it's sort of the same thinking of like

435
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Speaker 1: how violent video games. We were like, well, these are

436
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: gonna make people violent, right, so if you're listening to

437
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: black metal, you're probably an agro murderer because that's what

438
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: the thematically, what the music is around. So you know,

439
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: he decided to kind of do a not the most

440
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Speaker 1: scientifically sound study because it's a lot of self reporting,

441
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Speaker 1: but he got a group of non black metal fans

442
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Speaker 1: in a group of black metal fans, uh, self described

443
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Speaker 1: black metal fans to take a listen to some tracks

444
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Speaker 1: and see how they felt after. And some of the

445
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: tracks that they were listening to where songs like Slowly

446
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: We Wrought by Obituary, Waiting for the Screams by Autopsy,

447
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: and obviously the Cannibal Corpse, fucking classic hammer smashed Face.

448
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: If you remember in ace Ventura, the first movie, when

449
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Speaker 1: he goes to a concert, when he's meeting the dude

450
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Speaker 1: where he has to do with the new England clam

451
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Speaker 1: chowder code. He's at a he's at a metal show

452
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Speaker 1: that's Cannibal Corpse Plan. Yeah. Anyway, so he found that

453
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Speaker 1: after these people listen to the music that you know,

454
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: the non fans are like it just sounds like people

455
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Speaker 1: screaming because they're whiny and hate their parents, sort of

456
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Speaker 1: like they were put off by the music, where the

457
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Speaker 1: actual fans they report experiencing feelings of empowerment, joy, peace,

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Speaker 1: and transcendence. Uh. And so he was and it wasn't

459
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Speaker 1: like it had nothing to do with anger attention. They

460
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Speaker 1: never felt like that at all. And he was sort

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Speaker 1: of scratching his head and was wondering, Okay, then, like

462
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Speaker 1: the appeal of it must be sort of that the

463
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Speaker 1: fact that the lyrics are so aggressive and pronounced that

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Speaker 1: it's very divisive, so you're either going to love it

465
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Speaker 1: or you're gonna hate it. And you found that a

466
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Speaker 1: lot of the fans of black metal already nonconformists. So

467
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: the fact that people who like it helped sort of

468
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Speaker 1: self define them a bit more, like they can wear

469
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Speaker 1: it as a badge of honor. It's like, yeah, this

470
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Speaker 1: music appeals to me and I'm not interested in that music.

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Speaker 1: And to him, that's what he thought the appeal was

472
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Speaker 1: of metal. I mean, it's just just heavy music, you know,

473
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: wants your head to explore. There's something about a numbing

474
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Speaker 1: effect that might bring on a peaceful feeling that the

475
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Speaker 1: music is more aggressive, loud, and angry than you could

476
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Speaker 1: ever be, so therefore it sort of calms you because

477
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: you thought you were aggressive and angry and now you

478
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: don't feel as much because this music, yeah, way more

479
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Speaker 1: intense than I'm feeling. Really just like sludge like metal,

480
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Speaker 1: like that's slower and weigh heavier. And those people at

481
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: those shows aren't like violently washing, they're more just intensely

482
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Speaker 1: just head binged, so you know it. And again, these

483
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: are like sounds that people are like custom making instruments

484
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: to hit frequencies that are just so low, so heavy

485
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: that they'll just make your chest cave in yeah show,

486
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: and I mean they're hearing, they're legitimately the sound is

487
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: hitting their brain in a different it might as well

488
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: be a different sound than the sound hitting our brand

489
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: as non fans, and like it's just they're processing it

490
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: differently because they have so much context and they know

491
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: all the different like they know where each note fits

492
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Speaker 1: within the context of all the other black metal they've heard. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: you have the same debate though about Cardi B. In

494
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Speaker 1: my opinion, well Cardi B. We we happen to be

495
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Speaker 1: fans of Cardi B. But I think my brain I

496
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: think that's so the it falls on either side. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think some people are like what, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a very cos Yeah, I mean, how heavy do you

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Speaker 1: get Jack with your what's the heaviest ship you listened to? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess like Guns and Roses and

501
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: some Metallica would probably get heaviest, which is like every

502
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Speaker 1: fan of black metal, just like scoffed Kevin, what about it,

503
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: what's the heaviest music you listen to? The heaviest you go, Yeah,

504
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't really register on the playlist in any way,

505
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Speaker 1: shape or form. I much preferred, you know, new wave

506
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: from the eighties than the long haired metal band there. Yeah, way, way,

507
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: way more. I'll listen to some Torch, you know, some

508
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: tar Pit Carnivore. I don't know, are you making that up? No?

509
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Speaker 1: They basic That kind of says it all. You're making

510
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: the carnivore. Yeah, it's amazing song, like the Bassis has

511
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: a they just called the bomb note. I mean that's

512
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Speaker 1: evocative tar pit carnivores. I would I would write out

513
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: on it, but if you had headphones, it would You

514
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: can't even listen to this properly, And it is what

515
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: I like music. Yeah, But I just feel like, before

516
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: you talk about any music negatively, just realized that everybody

517
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: says the music they don't like all sound sounds the same.

518
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Like basically all negative music criticism all sounds the same.

519
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: You're all saying the same ship and it's not true

520
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: in any objective sense. So like, just well, none of

521
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: its objective. The next the thing about any art form

522
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Speaker 1: the most subjective thing. Frankly, Yeah, absolutely, I don't think

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Speaker 1: less of someone who loves a certain music that I

524
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: can't listen to a second of Yeah it's just not

525
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Speaker 1: for me. Well you're not a shitty person, because I

526
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: think a shifty person has the attitude of like, well

527
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: you like this and you're an idiot, so fun. I

528
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: mean I feel that way about Dodger fans, But I

529
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: don't know. It's nice to be at it's nice to

530
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: you guys to suit up. Yeah, and at least go

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Speaker 1: to the World Series, unlike your fans who left in

532
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: the seventh inning. But anyways, guys, let's talk about Bohemian Rhapsody.

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00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of those stories that

534
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: was in the Zeke, just like in the Firmament. I

535
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: didn't see it this weekend, but I took my two

536
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: year old to Chipotle and we had just been listening

537
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: to the song Bohemian Rat City in the car and

538
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: he was singing Mom and me and Mama Mia and

539
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Speaker 1: the person that was like, oh, did you see the movie,

540
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: and like it was just like one of those like

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Speaker 1: organic conversations that just struck up. And she was like

542
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Speaker 1: a twenty two year old and she was like, oh,

543
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: Queen's my favorite band, Like I can't wait to see it,

544
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: and she was like so excited. Two year old would

545
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Speaker 1: have Queeners their face? Well since at all? I who

546
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: love just great singing, like if you're like a rock

547
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: opera kind of you know. But I think that's what

548
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: we're finding out because it dominated at the box office.

549
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: I think we're finding out that their reach is and

550
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: I kind of found it like it's the band that

551
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: most connects with my two year old son. Like their songs,

552
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: there was a second coming, don't forget because and it

553
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: was possibly even bigger than the first. That's when I

554
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: first found out exactly it was that Bohemian Rhapsody in

555
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Wayne's World and then on my tape player for the

556
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: next five years, just constantly. And that was still not time.

557
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: I remember because when I demanded my mom take me

558
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Speaker 1: to mute Uziic Plus when that was still a place

559
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: to buy music in the l A to buy the

560
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: tape of the Waynesbel soundtrack for that song, she was like,

561
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: you're listening to Queen And she was like, I used

562
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: to tour with them as their translator. I was like, well, yeah,

563
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: it's BACKMW. But just some classic great pop songs that

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00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: we're finding out or even more timeless than maybe was

565
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: widely agreed on. But this it seems like, based on

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Speaker 1: what people have told me and Kevin, I'm interested to

567
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: hear your take that it is sort of Queen's greatest hits.

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00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: The movie sort of thing, well, they show how a

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Speaker 1: lot of their biggest, most successful songs came to be,

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00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, how how they were either written or rehearsed

571
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: or recorded or performed in various stages, which is one

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00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: of the better storytelling devices to tell the story of

573
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Speaker 1: a famous band is to actually show how the fund

574
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: did you get to this song or this moment and

575
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: even in the high note, you know that craziness. There's

576
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: a moment the film where they show the recording of

577
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: the song and in that that one singer who was

578
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: the drummer according to the movie, is in the booth

579
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: trying to hit that higher note. And uh, it was

580
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: just spectacular how Freddie Murcury just kept saying higher, amazingly high,

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Speaker 1: and he go higher. Yeah, the movie was spectacular. I

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00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: assumed that those vocals were like affected or like tuned

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00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: up or sped up or something, possibly by chemicals, but

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00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, this movie has an interesting backstory

585
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: because so at first Sasha Baron Cohen was connected to

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00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: play Freddie Murcury. It actually looks more like him if

587
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: you think, yeah, he looks a lot like him. Yeah, totally.

588
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: And he ended up having some shoes, some clashes with

589
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: the surviving band members. He really wanted to go like full,

590
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, just hard. Our version of the story where

591
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, you see all of the debauchery that like

592
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: there he had a scene in his vision for the

593
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: movie where little people were walking around with plates of

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00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: cocaine on their head, because that was apparently a party

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00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: that Freddie Mercury once attended. Um but he said the

596
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: uh he said this on I think the Howard Stern

597
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: showed that the moment he realized he couldn't move forward

598
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: was a member of the band. This is a quote

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00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: a member of the band. I won't say who said,

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00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, this is such a great movie because it's

601
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: got such an amazing thing that happens in the middle.

602
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: And I go, what happens in the middle of the movie,

603
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: and he goes, you know, Freddie dies. And I go,

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Speaker 1: what happens in the second half of the movie, and

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00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: he goes, we see how the band carries on from

606
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: strength to strength. And I said, listen, not one person

607
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: is going to see a movie where the lead character

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Speaker 1: dies from AIDS and then you see how the band

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00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: carries on. Uh. And that isn't what happens in the movie.

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00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's not at all what happened. That's

611
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: not all so somebody So that's what Sasha Baron Cohen

612
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: was saying when he was going back and forth with

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Speaker 1: the band. The band member. One of the band members

614
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: was like, then it's about us for the second half,

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00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: and we move on from Freddie and our attempt to

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00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: find a singer who can replace him and failing to

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00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: do that. He was like, I don't think that's gonna

618
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: work so well. But somebody got to the band and

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00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: that's not at all how the movie is structured. One

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00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 1: of the criticisms that's coming out because this, despite being,

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00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, a big commercial success, critics are kind of

622
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: mixed on it, and the treatment of Mercury's sexuality has

623
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: been kind of panned a little bit. For like, his

624
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: first homosexual encounter comes when they're manager, who is sort

625
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: of the movie's villain, suddenly kisses him and then the

626
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: manager drags him quote unquote into a world of drugs

627
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: and gay sex parties, and that's kind of part of

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00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: Mercury's demise. Do you see that kind of criticism, um,

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Speaker 1: I would say that's a pedestrian review. A pedestrian review

630
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: in the sense that the story ultimately reveals when the

631
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: love of his life, a woman he was married to,

632
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: I gave her a ring. I don't think they showed

633
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: an actual wedding, common law life. Yeah, it was always

634
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: referred to you have the love of my life all

635
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: the way through the film story. And then at one

636
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: point when he says to her in a private moment,

637
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: I think I might be bisexual, she says, without hesitation, Freddie,

638
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Speaker 1: you're gay. So is this? So that helps us to

639
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: understand that she always knew what was fairly clear from

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Speaker 1: the first time you meet him. In the film, he's

641
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: played I wouldn't say completely effeminine, but but with a flair, right,

642
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: And that flair is not just dramatic or even melodramatic.

643
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: It's camp the way that a gay person who's out

644
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: and open behaves in public. Right. So Freddie in the

645
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: film Anyways is portrayed as someone who's sort of lived

646
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Speaker 1: his life that way from the beginning. Interesting, and then

647
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of clear to everyone that he's gay. And

648
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: then when, but when he when it is shown in

649
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: the story of the film of having that kiss, I

650
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: think there was a moment before that actually where he

651
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: gets eyed up by a man and they exchange expressions

652
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: and Freddie doesn't act on it, got it okay? So

653
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Speaker 1: I would I would say that's a very myopic review

654
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: of maybe for someone who's looking for something to not

655
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: like you have to remember, well you don't have to remember.

656
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: Please consider that again. My issue with everyone having an

657
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: opinion on the internet. It also is, you know, film

658
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: review used to be people who wrote essays and they

659
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: were learned individuals on the matter of storytelling. So now

660
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: that everyone has a blog or a or an opinion

661
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: on on film, you're going to get fairly pedestrian points

662
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: of view or very personalized points of view. I find like, like,

663
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to jump into that person's life, but

664
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Speaker 1: if a if a gay person saw the film and

665
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: felt like his homosexuality wasn't represented strong enough, then they

666
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: would take it as a personal affront because they would say,

667
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: have an invested interest, if you know what I'm so,

668
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: while I want to appreciate and empathize with what that

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00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: person experienced when they saw it, you know, I think

670
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: the film represents a larger picture. Yeah, I mean. And

671
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: the good thing about sites like Metacritic is that it's

672
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: sort of a democratization where you can see like a

673
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: whole spectrum of voices and choose there that maybe you

674
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Speaker 1: identify with. And I did hear that reviews were mixed,

675
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: totally mixed, and you know, it's it is a film

676
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: that elicits a great deal of excitement and emotion, and um,

677
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: you get caught up in the swirl of what the

678
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: band went through from total unknowns Creti was working baggage

679
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: at the airport, unloading off of a plane, rise up

680
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: through uh, you know, the formation of the band. You

681
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: really get caught up in their whirlwind lives and ultimately,

682
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: you know the demise of happiness that comes with over

683
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: the top success. Totally yeah. Yeah. One other just thing

684
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: that people pointed out about it that we probably don't

685
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: have too much time to get into, but they were

686
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: saying that his wife, his common law wife, Mary, is

687
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: somebody who he remained with like through his death and

688
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: who like nursed him, and he left most of his things,

689
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: most of his belongings and wealth to her, and they

690
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: were saying that he was more he identified as bisexual.

691
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: And so the whole like gay versus bisexual thing is

692
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: that that is something that I feel like is in

693
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: in the future or in other cultures will look back

694
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: at the idea that you're either gay or straight as

695
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: somewhat missing the mark in terms of how people's sexuality

696
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: actually operate, it seems like a very individual choice. Yeah, totally.

697
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: The rest of us need to put a title on

698
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: it so we feel better about our friends. Exactly what

699
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: box are you in? I don't like this fluidity of

700
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Speaker 1: a spectrum. If it's a train with car, Are you right,

701
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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break, We'll be right back,

702
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: and we're back. I wanted to talk about college education

703
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: because I was listening to a report on my drive

704
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: into work today where somebody was using that as an explanation.

705
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: They were saying, like, college educated voters were, you know,

706
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: ex more likely x percentage points more likely to vote

707
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Speaker 1: for Democrats. And when you break it out by white

708
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: voters who don't have a college education bus white voters

709
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: who do have a college education, Uh, it's even more stark.

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Speaker 1: And this reminded me of something that Jason You and

711
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: I talked about on an old episode of the Cracked podcast.

712
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: This idea of America having a class system that we

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Speaker 1: as Americans don't really recognize in terms of how it

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Speaker 1: operates in our day to day lives. And one of

715
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Speaker 1: the interesting sort of re contextualizations that I took away

716
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: from uh that discussion on class was this book talked

717
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: about how universities and colleges are actually more about socializing

718
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: you to act in according with your class in America,

719
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Speaker 1: like the upper class in America, the gentry class in America.

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Speaker 1: That's the main thing you learn at college more so

721
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: than you know, whatever your major is. It gives you friends,

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Speaker 1: It gives you a friend group that is in that

723
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: upper class. It teaches you what your beliefs are supposed

724
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: to be. And so, I mean, viewed from that perspective,

725
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense that college degrees are so

726
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: starkly defining what side of the country you vote on

727
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: or what party you vote for, and just to the

728
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: point that it's almost like different classes just perceive things

729
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: in completely different ways. They'll see the same press conference

730
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: and perceive it in completely different ways. Right. Well, I

731
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: think in our you know, entering the workforce, now, if

732
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Speaker 1: you want to job that could actually sustain a family

733
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Speaker 1: and all that, you know, it's you almost certainly need

734
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Speaker 1: a college degree to get that kind of employment too.

735
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Speaker 1: And I think also that could be one of the

736
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Speaker 1: reasons why they're such a I don't know if the

737
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: the animosity towards education and things like that too, because

738
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Speaker 1: if as it if it does become the sort of

739
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: marker of classes, then you would be like, well, those

740
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: are the fancy college people, while I might not have

741
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: a degree and have a sort of you know, cynical

742
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: viewpoint of that, right, And when you listen to NPR

743
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: talk about that's what I was listening to. An NPR

744
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: was talking about like, well, these college educated voters versus

745
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: not college educated, and they were using it. I mean,

746
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: it would have totally changed the context of what they

747
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: were talking about if they said college socialized as opposed

748
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: to but they were focused. They really emphasis is always

749
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: on the educated, because I think they want it to be.

750
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: You know, they're talking to the people who went to college.

751
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: They want you to think, well, I'm the more educated person,

752
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: and by being smarter, I therefore and making the right decision,

753
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: and these poor dumb snaps just don't know how to

754
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: vote for what's best for them. And you know, I

755
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: think you know, Jason, you've spoken to the fact that

756
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: people who you know, you grew up with, who are

757
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: part of Trump Country are not any dumber and in

758
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: fact a lot smarter than a lot of the people

759
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: you've met since coming to our world. But it's just

760
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 1: it's sort of different class conventions that we adopt. Yeah,

761
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: and even now without recapping that whole episode we did,

762
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: it's when you say class, most people listening to this

763
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: think you're purely talking about income, because in America, that's

764
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: usually the only way we talk about it. You're a

765
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: middle class, lower class, upper class. And what that discussion

766
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: was about, and we've got links we can throw in

767
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: for the people who want to do further reading on it,

768
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: is that it's almost more like a map of different

769
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: classes because the whole deal the recent Trump appeals to

770
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: certain classes is that he is worth a billion dollars,

771
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: but he has the mannerisms and the tastes and the

772
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: point of view of someone from a completely different what

773
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: we would consider like a working class. He has the

774
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: he has the accent. He is involved in w w

775
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: E wrestling, which is which is more of like seen

776
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: as it's more associated with the working class, whereas you know,

777
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: and an example of it being divorced from money on

778
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: the other side is think about a college professor. A

779
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: college professor does not make good money like they are,

780
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, meal to meal, but college professors, or at

781
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: least a lot of college professors, but they are part

782
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: of that upper class. They have the correct values, they

783
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: carry around the correct NPR tote bag. So this is

784
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: something that's very apparent in other countries. Other countries are

785
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: very aware of it that you know there's money, but like,

786
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: you don't get to just earn your way to like

787
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: a higher class. It's all about what you've been socialized in,

788
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: what you've grown up around. And I think just America

789
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: has a real blind spot when it comes to how

790
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: just class oriented our our society is. And a lot

791
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: of the things that you hear in the mainstream media

792
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: and on the left when discussing you know, parts of

793
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: like rural America really ring a little more kind of

794
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: leave a bad taste in your mouth if you're paying

795
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: attention to sort of class dynamics. And it's not that

796
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: hard to see on other parts of especially on pop culture,

797
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: because when I wrote the big article about this, that

798
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: suddenly became a much bigger deal after after Trump won.

799
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: My example I used the touchstone was like The Hunger Games,

800
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: because when you watched that movie, the hero is a

801
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: rustic rural hunter living and like a shack who hunts

802
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: for food and you know, works with her hands, and

803
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: she's kind of dirty or whatever. And then the evil

804
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: people live in this fancy city. They wear ridiculous, gaudy clothes.

805
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: They're very pretentious, you know, they put on airs, and

806
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: without having to be told, we automatically hate those people.

807
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: And we automatically like Catanus because she's salt of the earth.

808
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: She's tough. It's more masculine values, right, because she's a hunter.

809
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: Where in the city, in the capital, it's all of

810
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: these pressy guys and their sequined clothes. So even among

811
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: all the rest of us, like that code for the

812
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: snooty upper class versus the salt of the Earth heroes,

813
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: it brings true. You know, let's Luke Skywalker living on

814
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: the desert planet, you know, I mean, farming humidity or

815
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: whatever the hell they did theirs. Yeah, and then whereas

816
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: like Darth Vader, they lived on the state of the

817
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: art Death Star, and that all automatically that code says

818
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: urban versus rural. Rural is the good guys. Urban is

819
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: the people who are out of touch, wealthy. Well, that's

820
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: that's all it is. It's the way they see everything

821
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: that's symbolized in like urban people, the education level, the

822
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: income level, the people talking about, oh have you seen

823
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: Hamilton's yet, Oh you've got to go, It's amazing. It

824
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: was like the rest the other percent of America who

825
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: do not have access to Hamilton's in any capacity, got

826
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: real sick of seeing sitcom episodes where all of the

827
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: characters are trying to get Hamilton's tickets, Like you get

828
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: these signals that like they're living on a different planet

829
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and it's a different planet where they're detached from real problems,

830
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: you know. And again that's obviously us on this podcast

831
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: think that's unfair, but it shouldn't be that hard to

832
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: grasp because it turns up in culture everywhere. Yeah. Well yeah,

833
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: that idea though too, that we live in these separate

834
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: and almost planets within a country. I could kind of

835
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: see that sort of being amplified when I was I

836
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: was looking at like how a lot of the Q

837
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: and On people were so disheartened by the results of

838
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: the mid terms because they were promised a red wave

839
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: by Q and they were fully invested, like Okay, this

840
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: is our time, and when that didn't happen, they became

841
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: so disheartened and the talk just became to like, oh, man,

842
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: one of the mo abs going to be dropped on

843
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: their city. Like this idea that like the military needs

844
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: to come in. That there's this view that there are

845
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: all these people who are you know, part of I

846
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: guess support this deep state or whatever force their diametrically

847
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: opposed to is, you know, exists in this other part

848
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: that is like so well defined that you could just

849
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: drop bombs on it or send the military in as

850
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: if it's like this other it were like I don't know,

851
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: a rogue army or something that's like gallivanting around the country. Yeah.

852
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: Another thing I was just thinking about is that, you know,

853
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: when you look at the endowments of these universities. Harvard

854
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: University has a thirty eight billion dollar endowment, Yale has

855
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: a twenty six billion dollar endowment, Stanford two billion, Prince

856
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: in two. These are universities that still charge people, you know,

857
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars for a four year in education.

858
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: Like what are they do? Why would they do that?

859
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: They don't need the money, So you're gate keeping. Yeah,

860
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: gatekeeping in to a certain extent, it's insane. It came

861
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: up in this Supreme Court case about affirmative action, and

862
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: it was just kind of I hadn't really thought about

863
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: it in a while, but the fact that colleges still

864
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: use legacy is insane. That that why would you in

865
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: a society where you know, this is a huge part

866
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: of the sorting process and we're supposed to be a meritocracy.

867
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: And I know that might seem like willfully naive to

868
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: think that America isn't meritocracy, but it's just colleges I

869
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: feel like, are very complicit it in this whole thing,

870
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: in this whole divide. Yeah, well I think again, like

871
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: you know, with Harvard or the Ivy leagues, to even

872
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: go to one already puts you in another class, another

873
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: culture of people. And I think the more you can,

874
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: the more obstacles there are to attain that. That's how

875
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: they protect that class of people. And I think just

876
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: with even when you look at education, it's increasingly harder

877
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: and harder to be a not do not have a

878
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: lot of uh like cash at your disposal and still

879
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: try and get a college education without you know, having

880
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: to work multiple jobs at once or rely on like

881
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, predatory loans or something. It's just, yeah, it's

882
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: a sort of set up in a way that's really

883
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: just kind of making it harder for people to sort

884
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: of move into that right by design. And this is

885
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: something that it's a subject that you rarely here discussed,

886
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: which is the idea that you have classes that specifically

887
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: are built to keep other people out of that of

888
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: that class, of that social class. It's a sub we

889
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: don't like to talk about much at all. We love

890
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: to talk about economic class like that's you know, we

891
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: love to talk about race, but the idea of like

892
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: social classes and how much of a role it plays

893
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: in terms of what opportunities are available to you. Uh,

894
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: it's almost like the people who are most invested in

895
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: that have the power to make us not discuss it, right,

896
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: And it's not a conspiracy theory. It's you look at

897
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: the schools that you know members of Congress went to,

898
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: or that you know CEO s went to. Yeah, it's

899
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's entire sections of the economy or

900
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: of the of society where which school you went to

901
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: and which fraternity you're a member of is everything that's

902
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: part of what gets you on the door. I remember

903
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: when Trump was determining who his final list of Supreme

904
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: Court nominees were going to be that. They distinguished Amy

905
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: Coney Barrett as like being different because she went to

906
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: know her Dame and didn't go to Yale. It was

907
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: like seen as weird to have not gone to one

908
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: college to Yale. They were like, and she's very different

909
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: in addition to being a woman. She didn't go to

910
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: Yale as opposed to every other member on the list.

911
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: But Trump might want more of a Yelle guy. It's like,

912
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: what the funk are you talking about that? But those

913
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: are the optics to someone like that, who was just like, oh,

914
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: this is a it's a signal to him, Okay, Yale

915
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: equals this thing. And it's like sort of a myopic

916
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: what people can. And Trump's relationship to class has always

917
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: been very complicated. He was a queen's guy who always

918
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: wanted to like break into the island of Manhattan. And

919
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, he claims to hate the New York Times,

920
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: but he always wanted the New York Times to write

921
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: about him. And you know, so there's also some degree

922
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: of you know, aspiration, even I think probably embedded in

923
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: him even now that he's the President of the United States.

924
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: So there might be alien life terms I'm reading this threat.

925
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: I know, I'm a little might be story now, Well, no,

926
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: I only I exhaled because the originally, I think we

927
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it in the event that things

928
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: went horribly awful and we're just like whatever, due to

929
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: an alien ship might just come kill us all and

930
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: take us out of our misery a muammuah. Okay, that's

931
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: that's pretty basic to think that the aliens would want

932
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: to kill us smiles. But they are evolved. They are

933
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: going to take us with them. Oh you're right. Okay,

934
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: my bad, my bad. Sorry for the backlash. But but

935
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: Jack was pronouncing the name of this object, this foreign

936
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: object that they have detected. Sorry, did I say something?

937
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: I thought I just blacked out there for a second. Okay.

938
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: So to set the story up, y'all, what happened was

939
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: like a while back, I think a year ago or something. Yeah,

940
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: the astronomers they detected this like gigantic object that was

941
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: very sort of odd looking, dubbed Jack as you pronounced

942
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: amahmah or muama or whatever. Hey whatever you wanna all right? Uh? Yeah,

943
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: They say it arrived from interstellar space beyond the bubble

944
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: like region that demarcates the Sun's domain. Yeah, it looks

945
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: like it looks like any Claire or a lady finger. Yeah,

946
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: what is what you would call that. But the thing

947
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: that got people sort of interested in it is that,

948
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: especially these people at the Harvard Smithsonian Center for astro Physics.

949
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: So you know, there's not they're not just lying to

950
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: you that they're saying, you know, first like, oh, maybe

951
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: there's a comment, but they have a very different theory.

952
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: So some of these astro physicists claim that Omua Mua

953
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: could be a quote fully operational probe sent intentionally to

954
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: Earth vicinity by an alien civilization. Omamua deviates from a

955
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: trajectory that is solely dictated by the Sun's gravity. This

956
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: could have been the result of commentary outgassing, but there's

957
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: no evidence for a commentary tale around it. Moreover, comments

958
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: change the period of their spin, and no such change

959
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: was detected forma. So they're saying, you know, this thing

960
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: is moving around not like anything else. We know what's

961
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: going on here. Yeah, and there's also also like the

962
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: one of you thought it looked like a dildo and

963
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: the other one like in a Claire, it's like a hungree,

964
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: horny situation. Just depends on who's got dicks on the

965
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: brain and who's got there's a you know, truth be told,

966
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: there's no amount of marshmallow fluff you can put on

967
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: a dildo first taste good. So they're they're talking about

968
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: it seeing potentially a light sale. What is that something

969
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: where you're using the speed of light to like transport

970
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: yourself at the speed of light. Is that the idea? Well,

971
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: they're saying that they again, this is so science, and

972
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: I did so terribly in science in school. I had

973
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: to cheat to pass. Okay, so I'm sorry, I'm a

974
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: little confession for y'all. But the way that it's moving,

975
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: they're saying. Another explanation is that the quote extra force

976
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: exerted on by sunlight, that is what's moving it. And

977
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: for that to be possible, that the actual object would

978
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: be less than a millimeter in thickness, like a sale.

979
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: That so they're saying that this may be some kind

980
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: of light sale produced by an alien civilization. But it's

981
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: also kind of a thing that we're kind of working

982
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: on on this planet too with h Yeah, anyways, a

983
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: light sale, I'm pretty embarrassing. More broke boy space art.

984
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: It actually also comes to the lights. That's actually the

985
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: color of your car is light sale, right. One of

986
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: the theories that I've heard. And by the way, we'll

987
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: we'll talk about people who are debunking this because the

988
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: scientific community loves themselves a backlash. Yeah, well, let's really

989
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: look at this object. I mean, essentially, the point that

990
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: somebody made in debunking this was just that a theory

991
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: is just something that you can't prove incorrect, which is true.

992
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: It's one of like a thousand possibilities. But this is

993
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: a very interesting possibility, so it's worth talking about. And uh,

994
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, it helps explain a couple of things that

995
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: haven't been explained otherwise. But a theory I saw somewhere

996
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: was that this is like part of a ship that

997
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: has been like cast off from another craft that has

998
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: been like now slowing down and its approach to Earth.

999
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: Because like if you had like our spacecraft, you know,

1000
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: you like shed different parts of it that are like

1001
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: powering it as you're going up. So if you shed

1002
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: something that was like part of a spacecraft as you

1003
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: were like slowing down to approach Earth, then that thing

1004
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: would go flying by the Solar System before like the

1005
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: ship actually arrived because they would be down so like

1006
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: we might be seeing what was actually coming here. And

1007
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: so that's them ditching the rocket booster, right, that's the

1008
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: rocket booster that they ditched, the real deals coming forth.

1009
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: That sounds like independence. And now if it's like I

1010
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: feel like the way you look at Aliens is people

1011
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: the same way people were like optimistic about the election

1012
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: before and after. There are groups of us who are like, yeah, baby,

1013
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: any signal means Aliens or means Hillary is gonna win.

1014
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: And then there are other people are like, no, even

1015
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: though I'm an expert, I need the fucking alien to

1016
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: come down on the planet and me to shake its

1017
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: hand for me to acknowledge. I just also hope that

1018
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: they love O. That's the only thing that will be

1019
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: the ultimate ninety fiance is coming down to Earth. Idea. Ever,

1020
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: Jack like bleed Bloor was way different than we were

1021
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: first chatting online. Right he said he was a multi

1022
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: cell organism, But actually when I met him, I was like,

1023
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: I thought, on Earth, you guys have gold and go

1024
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: on vacations. This is not what I signed up for. God, flowers,

1025
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: where are my flowers? Bisas anyway, we have to figure

1026
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: out how we're going to talk about this show. One

1027
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: possibility that I've always thought was like more likely that

1028
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why people don't talk about more is

1029
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: that like we would encounter an alien civilization that had

1030
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: like died off a million years ago, and we're just

1031
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: like seeing evidence of it coming to us through space.

1032
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: And that's something that I saw mentioned while people were

1033
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: discussing this report, that like it could be a long

1034
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: ago civilization and it's just like passing by their space

1035
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: ship is only making it to us now. But like

1036
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: that would be fucking dope if we found out about

1037
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: an entire civilizations like history and entire species history, but

1038
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: we didn't have to deal with like getting killed off

1039
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: by them. We just got to read an entire history.

1040
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: But wouldn't it be crazy if it was just our history?

1041
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: And like Donald Trump right, like yo, dude, still couldn't

1042
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: get people to vote him out of office. That's a script.

1043
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: That's a script. Write that down. Like honestly, though, like

1044
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: I can just imagine like us being like, holy sh it,

1045
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: this is our history and the next year Donald Trump

1046
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: ends the world and people be like not fake news,

1047
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: like you would just it would go exactly the same

1048
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: way said for a long time that the Aliens are

1049
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: very big losers. This is a crisis space refuse. All right,

1050
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitguys, please

1051
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show,

1052
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He needs your validation. Folks.

1053
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

1054
01:00:46,440 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By S.