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Speaker 2: starting to feel bad that we lost the Sports Emmy,

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Speaker 2: I could always be a Knicks fan today because they

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Speaker 2: got to feel a whole lot worse than we did.

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Speaker 2: They were winning, We weren't even winning winning, and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, in historical fashion, you blow a lead.

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Speaker 2: This will be the question. We always do this all

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Speaker 2: the shows. Well, did one team win it or one

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Speaker 2: team lose it? The Knicks blew it. The Knicks blew it.

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Speaker 2: When you're up fourteen inside three minutes in your building,

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Speaker 2: you blew it now. Since nineteen ninety seven, in the postseason,

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Speaker 2: there have been total four comebacks from seven or more

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Speaker 2: points in the final fifty seconds of the fourth quarter overtime.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers have three of the four, all happening this season.

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Speaker 2: Play of the Day and of the Day coming up

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Speaker 2: as well. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk. He'll wrap

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Speaker 2: up what we saw at the owners meetings as the

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Speaker 2: tush push is still here at least for another year.

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer mister Fab five Chris Weber a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on as well, so recapping the Pacers shocking

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Speaker 2: the Knicks in Game one and Shay Gilgis Alexander wins

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Speaker 2: the NBA MVP although we already knew he wanted because

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Speaker 2: Shams broke the story and then Shaq was opening up

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Speaker 2: an envelope last night, and we're supposed to suspend belief

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Speaker 2: or disbelieve, like, okay, maybe something else happened here that

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Speaker 2: we don't know. Maybe Shams didn't get it right, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Shack goes shake Gilgus Alexander MVP.

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Speaker 2: They got to figure out how to do this because

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Speaker 2: you can't hold this kind of information this amount of time,

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Speaker 2: because you remember when Dirk Novinsky had to accept the

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Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors in round one. I mean they I

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Speaker 2: was told that somebody was suggesting to give Shay Gilgess

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Speaker 2: Alexander the MVP while he's facing Joker in Denver. I go, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: that's not the way you should be doing this. It

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Speaker 2: should be something that it's a great moment. And even

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Speaker 2: if we all thought that Shay Gilgess was going to win,

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Speaker 2: let's do it. Have an announcement so we can treat

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Speaker 2: it in real time that yay, all right, you won, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 4: But when I was a kid, when Michael Jordan and

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Speaker 4: Charles Barkley were receiving the MVP awards, they did it

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Speaker 3: Not in Denver, not not on you know, Joker's home court.

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Speaker 3: You want to do it in. Okay, see, absolutely, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: And Joker knows he's not winning the MVP, but you know,

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Speaker 3: We don't. Let's not try to hold off. Remember they tried.

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Speaker 2: To do the awards ceremony and then then COVID came

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Speaker 2: It just it's a great moment for SGA. You want

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Speaker 2: award prior to a game. Home crowd gets to honor him. Great,

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. Yes, done.

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Speaker 5: It would have been very awkward if there was another

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Speaker 6: That might have been slightly awkward if he read a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was going to win. He dominated with

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Speaker 2: first place votes and Joker second place votes. But Shay

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Speaker 2: Gilgess Alexander Well deserving of MVP.

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Speaker 3: All right. Back to the Knicks collapse.

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Speaker 2: This is Kevin Harland with the call with the Tyres

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Speaker 2: Halliburton shot that we thought was the game winner that

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Speaker 7: and he did the choke sign. Reggie Miller's in the building.

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Speaker 7: And keep in mind when Reggie hit his shots, and

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Speaker 7: Spike Lee Pacers lost that series. It would have been

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Speaker 7: really embarrassing if you do a choke sign and you

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Speaker 7: But it did feel like the momentum was there. It

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Speaker 7: You know, Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns were great. Brunson

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Speaker 7: This will be the aaron Ne Smith game. Ten years

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Speaker 7: from now, fifteen years from now, we'll talk about Tyrese

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Speaker 2: Last person to do with Steph Curry. You expect that

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Speaker 2: by seventeen. They choked, they did. Here's Tyrese Haliburton after

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Speaker 8: Time doc probably like fifty times growing up, so I

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Speaker 8: not like to repeat that. But you know, I think

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Speaker 8: that's just a historic moment, and that was obviously more

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Speaker 8: But I think this is really cool to continue to,

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Speaker 8: definitely a special moment, and yes, I'm all't.

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Speaker 2: Forgot Tyrese Aliburton's having a hell of a month Playoff

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Speaker 2: Boost voted the most overrated player by fellow players. Nobody's

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Speaker 2: saying that anymore. And there are certain athletes regular season good,

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Speaker 2: the spotlight. Tyre's Halliburton. It's a wonderful performance, and you

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Speaker 2: do it in the Garden. I mean, that's where legends

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest shooters of all time. But to

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Speaker 2: They're indelible marks for your career when you have a

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Speaker 2: moment at the Garden, and Tyre's Halliburton certainly had one

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Speaker 9: Greatest Warrior ever, Steph Curry, Wilt Chamberlain, Rick Berry or

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Speaker 3: All right, yeah Dylan hashtag warrior. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They're blood all over the place here, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it looked like a crime scene like this doesn't bode well.

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Speaker 3: For Meet Thursday by the way.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's certainly less appetizing here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, what other AnyWho, the choke symbol last night

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Speaker 9: was awesome or awesome, but a mistake.

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Speaker 2: I think if you ask him if he would like

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Speaker 2: to have that back, he probably would say yes, you

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Speaker 2: think so, yeah, because it wasn't the game winner, and

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Speaker 2: you don't want history repeating itself because the Pacers when

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Speaker 2: Reggie did it, didn't win that series. It's a great moment,

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Speaker 2: and you're going to be on the you know, cover

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Speaker 3: With the choke sign.

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Speaker 2: But eh, I don't know, Marvin, what do you think

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Speaker 2: is that something that Tyrese Halliburton's gonna go you know

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Speaker 4: No, I loved it because, you know what, the Knicks

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Speaker 4: earned that choke sign. If there was any time to

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Speaker 4: use it, it was right there, because that's one of

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Speaker 4: the biggest choke jobs I've ever seen it.

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Speaker 2: If you don't if you don't win an overtime, then

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Speaker 2: it looks silly because yes, it was a choke job,

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Speaker 2: but then you don't want to choke after giving the

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Speaker 2: choke sign, and then the Knicks come back and win.

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Speaker 9: That video of him doing the choke sign could have

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Speaker 9: easily paired with him walking into the tunnel with his

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Speaker 3: Very easily that could have happened. Yes, yes, Ton, you're

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Speaker 3: Robert Dyson.

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Speaker 6: To the chokes on. Reggie's calling the game.

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Speaker 5: It's at the Garden Pacers the can in the moment

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Speaker 5: he thought he won the game until they checked it

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Speaker 5: out and said called it a two for overtime.

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Speaker 6: He thought that was a game winning shot.

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Speaker 5: That was a winning three and it wasn't a good shot, terrible,

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Speaker 6: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: What do you do? And then all of a sudden, that's.

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Speaker 12: Overwhelmingly authentic in all ways.

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Speaker 13: He said what he believed. He did so many good

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Speaker 3: If this is Tampa Bay Do we care about this?

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Speaker 2: It's the Eagles and they're winning, and they're winning a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and I just wonder is it the play

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Speaker 2: or is it the team with the play.

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Speaker 13: I think that it's a confluence of events that have

439
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Speaker 13: led to where we now are. It's the combination of

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Speaker 13: the play is very effective. The Eagles are highly successful.

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Speaker 13: Dan I believe the catalyst for this, and there's evidence

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Speaker 13: to back it up.

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Speaker 12: Mike Pereira, the Fox rules analyst formerly.

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Speaker 13: The VP of Officiating, he said in the days after

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Speaker 13: the NFC Championship that that ugly exchange we saw with

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Speaker 13: the Commanders jumping offside repeatedly to the point where the referee,

447
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Speaker 13: Sean Hockyley had to warn the Commanders, if you do

448
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Speaker 13: it again, we're going to award a touchdown to the Eagle,

449
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Speaker 13: something that's never been done in the history of the league,

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Speaker 13: a touchdown awarded for what they call a palpably unfair act.

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Speaker 13: I think some one saw that, possibly the guy whose

452
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Speaker 13: signature is on every football, and said we got to

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Speaker 13: get rid of this thing.

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Speaker 12: We can't have this.

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Speaker 13: And it's a bunch of different things that came together,

456
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Speaker 13: and the problem is They shouldn't nip this in.

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Speaker 12: The bud when it first started.

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Speaker 13: They should have realized, no, no, no, we never meant

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Speaker 13: by changing the WRULD to allow pushing the runner, that

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Speaker 13: you're gonna build it into your playbook and you're gonna

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Speaker 13: weaponize it, and you're gonna create this play that doesn't

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Speaker 13: look like a football play. But they waited too long,

463
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Speaker 13: and now it looks like an attack on the Eagles,

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Speaker 13: and when they try to give justifications, it's almost Keystone cops.

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Speaker 13: Well it's a safety risk, Okay, shows the data. Well

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Speaker 13: we don't have any data.

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Speaker 12: Well it could be a safety risk. Well what does

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Speaker 12: that mean.

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Speaker 13: Well, it doesn't look like a football play, and they're

470
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Speaker 13: moving the goalposts around literally on this thing, and it

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Speaker 13: just it's a bad look.

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Speaker 12: It's a very bad look for the league.

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Speaker 13: And I think that every team out there they have

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Speaker 13: two challenges now, One.

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Speaker 12: Come up with a way to do it. Two come

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Speaker 12: up a way to stop it.

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Speaker 2: When we were in Green Bay for the draft and

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Speaker 2: I pressed Matt Lafleur, I said, did the league, you know,

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Speaker 2: instruct you? And he said, well, we were nudged. We

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Speaker 2: were nudged. They you know, they needed to have a team,

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Speaker 2: so hey, we want you to be the sacrificial lamb.

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Speaker 2: Put your name to it, just like the Lions with

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Speaker 2: the playoff seating. So yeah, I mean, you know, coach

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Speaker 2: told us that that the league nudged them in so

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Speaker 2: many words.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and that just it's odd And why would you

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Speaker 13: pick the Packers as the team to do it?

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Speaker 12: They lost to the Eagles twice last year. It reeks

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Speaker 12: of sour grapes. If they do it, pick a team

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Speaker 12: from the AFC.

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Speaker 13: The Bills would have been the perfect team to get

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Speaker 13: behind this, literally because they do it too, and they

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Speaker 13: do it well. Now, the original proposal didn't affect the

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Speaker 13: way the Bills do it because they always do a

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Speaker 13: delayed push. The first proposal targeted immediate push, and that

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Speaker 13: would have opened Pandora's box of inconsistency and cries of rigging.

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Speaker 13: Can you imagine, Dan, if the Eagles had scored a

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Speaker 13: touchdown at the goal line in a playoff game and

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Speaker 13: a flag comes out because someone in black and white

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Speaker 13: stripes thought it was immediate and maybe it wasn't. They

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Speaker 13: already have enough fans saying the fixes in. That would

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Speaker 13: have been a nightmare, so they backed up and they said, well,

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Speaker 13: let's just come up with.

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Speaker 12: A general band.

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Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, at the end

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Speaker 13: of the day, there's still two thirds of the league

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Speaker 13: that wants to get rid of it. It's only because

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Speaker 13: the league requires a seventy five percent super majority to

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Speaker 13: change the rules that it stayed. There is something to

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Speaker 13: be said for the fact that twenty two teams want

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Speaker 13: to get rid of it, and I think that that's

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Speaker 13: going to embolden the commissioner to work the back channels,

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Speaker 13: make a deal, maybe make a little bit of a threat.

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Speaker 13: We've seen retribution in the past for teams that oppose

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Speaker 13: things the commissioner wanted. And I know that that you know, oh,

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Speaker 13: you're not supposed to say those things, but it's true.

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Speaker 13: It's true. We've seen it. I know teams believe they've

518
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Speaker 13: been targeted for unfavorable scheduling or multiple short week games

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Speaker 13: because they were against flexing of Thursday night football.

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Speaker 12: That happened a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 13: So I don't think this is over and by next year,

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Speaker 13: Dan don't be surprised if there's safety data to support

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Speaker 13: the position.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host

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Speaker 2: also contributor to NBC Football Night in America. The Olympic

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Speaker 2: Flag Football initiative is going strong thanks to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Help me understand how many NFL players will actually be

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Speaker 2: on the US Olympic roster for flag football.

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Speaker 13: Well, they announced the US men's team for the twenty

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Speaker 13: twenty five competitions earlier this week and there were twelve

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Speaker 13: players and six ordnates. But for the Olympics, it's a

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Speaker 13: five on five flag football with ten players on the team.

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Speaker 12: I don't know how many ordinates.

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Speaker 13: The proposal that became a final resolution this week allows

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Speaker 13: for one player maximum per NFL team to be available

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Speaker 13: for the Olympics, plus their International Pathway Program player that

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Speaker 13: they have.

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Speaker 12: But the main thing is the.

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Speaker 13: Players who are the stars, the names we know receivers

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Speaker 13: really want to do this for the most part, a

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Speaker 13: lot of them.

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Speaker 12: Okay, let they go get the gold medal.

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Speaker 2: But that roster made up of ten players can consist

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Speaker 2: of how many NFL players.

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Speaker 13: It can be ten, it can be ten, but only

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Speaker 13: one per team, Okay, so the entire roster can be

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Speaker 13: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They're basically going to say to all the people who

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Speaker 2: do play play frank flag football, professionally that we're going

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Speaker 2: to take away your roster spots.

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Speaker 13: For the most part, I think it's still early on

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Speaker 13: and all we know is one player per NFL team

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Speaker 13: is eligible, and there will be ten players on the

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Speaker 13: US men's team. It's going to be for the USA

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Speaker 13: Football group to determine who's on the team.

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Speaker 12: And there's I don't know how you're gonna do it.

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Speaker 13: Are you gonna have tryouts, are gonna have competitions? Are

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Speaker 13: you just going to make a guess as to which

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Speaker 13: NFL players will able to be able to learn flag football,

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Speaker 13: which is a very different game than tackle football. How

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Speaker 13: much prep time are you going to have every rep

562
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Speaker 13: that you put in to practicing for the Olympic? Flag

563
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Speaker 13: football is another opportunity to be injured.

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Speaker 14: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: People say, oh, it's flag football.

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Speaker 13: Well google Robert Edwards if you want to know what

567
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Speaker 13: can happen to somebody who's not playing tackle football but

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Speaker 13: still playing football. And that's the risk that the NFL

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Speaker 13: has persuaded the teams to take. Under this guise of

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Speaker 13: you're only putting one player up for the Olympics, there's

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Speaker 13: so many other ways this can go. You know, there's

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Speaker 13: no agreement between the NFL and the union yet on

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Speaker 13: how this is going to work.

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Speaker 12: The union may have some things to say.

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Speaker 13: I can see a scenario where players can bargain with

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Speaker 13: their teams to sacrifice their right to play in the

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Speaker 13: Olympics if the team wants to pay them a little

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Speaker 13: more money. I mean, if I was an owner and

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Speaker 13: I have a star player who's on the fence, maybe

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Speaker 13: I get a clause in his next contract where he

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Speaker 13: waives his right to be part of the Olympic team.

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Speaker 13: And if I'm the player and I can get more

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Speaker 13: money by doing that, all for it.

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Speaker 12: But they haven't.

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Speaker 13: They haven't even begun to negotiate how this is going

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Speaker 13: to look. There's so much more work that needs to

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Speaker 13: be done. This is the beginning. It feels like the end.

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Speaker 12: No no, no, no no. There's so much that still

589
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Speaker 12: needs to be done over the next three years.

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Speaker 2: The Brock pretty deal. Whenever there's a deal, a big deal,

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Speaker 2: I always go to Pro Football Talk. I go go

592
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Speaker 2: to your site, because hey, you sort through all of this,

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Speaker 2: Because agents will put out look at what I got

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Speaker 2: for my player, and I always go, all right, let

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Speaker 2: me see what Florio has found out. Tell me the

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Speaker 2: Brock pretty deal and is it good for Is this

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Speaker 2: team friendly?

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Speaker 3: Is it Brock friendly? How do you kind of gauge this?

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Speaker 13: I think at the end of the day, Dan, it's

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Speaker 13: a fair deal for both sides. That acknowledges the reality

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Speaker 13: that brock Purty isn't a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 12: And I know that there are forty nine Ers fans who.

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Speaker 13: Will insist otherwise. He's not a top five quarterback. He's

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Speaker 13: not a top ten quarterback in my opinion pack, and

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Speaker 13: there's no shame in being middle of the pack in

606
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Speaker 13: NFL quarterbacks. That means for the guy who was the

607
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Speaker 13: last pick in the draft, there's only fifteen guys on

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Speaker 13: the planet who can play quarterback in the NFL better

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Speaker 13: than him. And the way this deal is gonna go,

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Speaker 13: he'll make thirty eight million a year for the next

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Speaker 13: three years. The key date is April one, twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 13: That's the deadline for the forty nine Ers to cut

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Speaker 13: him before having fifty five million become fully guaranteed in

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Speaker 13: twenty twenty eight. So based on the next two years,

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Speaker 13: they'll make a decision as to whether to be on

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Speaker 13: the hook for fifty five million fully guaranteed in what

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Speaker 13: would be year four of the contract, and they could

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Speaker 13: get out of it after two years. They'd still owen

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Speaker 13: twenty seven million dollars, subject to offset, but they can

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Speaker 13: get out of this after two years if the chariot

621
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Speaker 13: turns into a pumpkin, so they have some protection. That's

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Speaker 13: always one of the key factors that's never in the

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Speaker 13: initial reporting. How long are the forty nine ers truly committed.

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Speaker 13: They're truly committed for two years. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 13: make a decision after year three by April one, whether

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Speaker 13: or not they want to be on the hook for

627
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Speaker 13: another fifty five million in twenty twenty eight. But over

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Speaker 13: six years, it's forty five million a year. That's all

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Speaker 13: that matters. New Money Average is a fiction aimed at

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Speaker 13: making the agents look better. Fifty three million doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 13: What matters is it's a new six year contract. He'll

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Speaker 13: make forty one million this year instead of five million,

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Speaker 13: and it's a six year, forty five million dollar deal.

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Speaker 2: Got better understanding on Aaron Rodgers' future or the Bengals

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson Neither neither.

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Speaker 13: And look, the reality with Hendrickson is he's got some options.

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Speaker 12: He's got some leverage, he's got some cards to play.

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Speaker 13: But if he holds out of all the teams in

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Speaker 13: the NFL, Dan, you know this, the Bengals don't care.

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00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 13: They told Carson Palmer, you want to sit home on

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Speaker 13: the couch watch him bowling and eating.

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Speaker 12: Pork rynes, go for it.

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Speaker 13: We don't care. We don't have to pay you. We'll

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Speaker 13: pocket the money eight hundred and eighty eight thousand a game.

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00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 13: Trey Henderson gives up. Mike Brown's like, fine, put it

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Speaker 13: with the rest. So they're not gonna blink. They're not

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Speaker 13: gonna bow here. The reality is how much pressure is

648
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Speaker 13: Joe Burrow going to put on the Bengals to do this.

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Speaker 13: He started the effort around the Super Bowl. He named

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Speaker 13: four guys, Jamar Chase t Higgins, Mikeasiki, and Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 13: And I think the Bengals stepped up to the plate with.

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Speaker 12: Three of them under pressure from Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 13: Will they do what they need to do to make

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Speaker 12: That remains to be seen.

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Speaker 13: But there isn't a whole lot he can do to

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Speaker 13: force this, because if he stays home, they'll say, fine,

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Speaker 13: we'll keep your money and with Rogers Ian.

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Speaker 12: O'Connor, who wrote the biography.

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Speaker 13: Last year, he was on with one of the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 13: radio stations in ninety three to seven the fan last week,

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Speaker 13: and he thinks it'll happen during OTAs. I think it

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Speaker 13: makes sense for it to happen soon. And he's there

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Speaker 13: next week for OTAs. But remember this, when Brett Farve

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Speaker 13: showed up with the Vikings in two thousand, I remember

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Speaker 13: there was a schism in the Minnesota locker room between

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Speaker 13: the guys who wanted Brett Favro and the guys who

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Speaker 13: wanted Traveris Jackson.

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Speaker 12: You know how long it took for the schism to

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Speaker 12: be resolved.

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Speaker 13: One practice the moment Aaron Rodgers shows up and starts

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Speaker 13: throwing passes that make a sound they've never heard before.

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Speaker 13: When it whizzes by their head, they'll say, okay, we

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Speaker 13: know why you waited.

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Speaker 12: Until whenever it was that Aaron Rodgers decided to show up.

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Speaker 3: Your takeaway from the Brett Favre documentary.

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Speaker 13: Well, look, and I think there's two different types of audience.

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Speaker 13: One the people who don't follow the NonStop drip drip

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Speaker 13: drip of NFL news, like for me, there was nothing new.

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Speaker 12: I was looking for something new. There's nothing new there.

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Speaker 12: It's a nice summary of everything that's happened.

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Speaker 13: But there was nothing that made me say, well, I

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Speaker 13: have to go write a story for PFT with this quote,

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Speaker 13: this development, this thing.

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Speaker 12: It's all stuff we already knew. But it's all in

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Speaker 12: one place. And I don't know, Dann, were you surprised

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Speaker 12: by anything that was in it? I wasn't. I knew

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Speaker 12: it all.

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Speaker 13: And yeah, that's the stuff Brett Farv did or allegedly did.

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Speaker 13: Gotta be careful, don't want to get sued the stuff

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Speaker 13: we know he did and this stuff he allegedly did.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Mike, Thank you, ch answer

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Speaker 6: Check this out. Two point games.

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Speaker 3: Six seconds to go. Haliburton driving, he's in the lane.

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Speaker 1: Hop high into the air.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we're working on the Warriors poll question as we speak,

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Speaker 9: very excited about that. We also just put up there

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Speaker 9: the choke symbol last night was awesome or a mistake?

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Speaker 9: Right now it is fifty to fifty. Oh awesome, slesh mistake.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got some information here has to do with the

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Speaker 2: college football playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Oh brother, all right, my source.

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Speaker 2: Just sent me this look for the College Football Playoff

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Speaker 2: to adopt straight seating for the upcoming twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 2: Now they had the protected seeds that made the past

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Speaker 2: playoff both confusing and illogical. You had automatic qualifiers. So

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Speaker 2: look for the automatic qualifier issues and a sixteen team

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Speaker 2: playoff to arrive as we've anticipated for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: sixth season. Okay, we're also waiting to find out the

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Speaker 2: House versus the NCAA settlement, and that should be happening

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Speaker 2: any moment. The settlement will change, nil will change, revenue share,

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Speaker 2: will change roster size, competitive strategies for just about every

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Speaker 2: will happen today, some minor tweaking of the financial structure.

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Speaker 2: There'll be broad understanding that this is the piece that

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Speaker 2: had to be addressed going forward. So that vote should

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Speaker 2: happen today. The automatic qualifiers, there'll be a sixteen team playoff.

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Speaker 2: All of that anticipated for the twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 2: But College Football Playoffs will adopt a straight seating for

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five season rather than the protected seeds

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Speaker 2: that we had. My source goes on to say, one

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Speaker 2: thing is clear, College Athletics is about to undergo extraordinary,

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Speaker 2: monumental and complicated change once again. Yeah, we're still trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out, you know, House of Representatives and College

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Speaker 2: Athletics and NIO and what all of this is going

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Speaker 2: to mean. But we're not going to have automatic qualifiers.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have street seating, and then in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six it looks like we're going to have a sixteen

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Speaker 2: team playoff.

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Speaker 3: So this, according to my source.

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Speaker 2: Sneaking a couple of phone calls here, Fritzy has a

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Speaker 2: rhyme time coming up as well. He has a New

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Speaker 2: York Knicks riddle.

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Speaker 5: Those I have something they wear the clues that I'm

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Speaker 5: working on the clues, and then we'll give you the answers.

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, do you want to give me the rhyme time?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one would be Nick's riddle, Nick riddle, and the

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Speaker 5: answer has to be two words of that rhyme with

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Speaker 5: each other.

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Speaker 6: That's the wrong.

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Speaker 2: So you're not coming up with the Nicks riddle.

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Speaker 5: The actual rhyme time, what would Nix riddle be? What

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Speaker 5: two words would rhyme for Nick's riddle? Based on what

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Speaker 5: happened last night, Nix. You know Marvin choke joke, that

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Speaker 5: would be choke joke. There was also and desist Halliburton,

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Speaker 5: and desist Halliburton.

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Speaker 3: Cease there you go.

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Speaker 2: Work on a few others. Okay, that's just a sampling there.

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Speaker 2: Jeff and Tampa. Jeff, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: More? DC.

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Speaker 14: I was just wondering if the Spurs, I know they

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Speaker 14: missed out on coop of Flag, but if they want

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Speaker 14: the pair of Yamis with the French tickler to form

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Speaker 14: the best interior defense of all time, Tree Purkie senator

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Speaker 14: around Harper's kid, is that enough to get the hill done?

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Speaker 3: I think you got to give up a lot more.

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Speaker 2: I know they're talking about Stefan Castle and then there

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Speaker 2: are two lottery picks. That's not enough for me. If

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Speaker 2: I'm Milwaukee. Stephan Castle was the rookie.

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Speaker 3: Of the year. I don't think he's a great player.

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Speaker 2: I think he was just maybe right place, right time,

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Speaker 2: right team, and he played he played well this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not building around Stefan Castle. Even Dylan Harper, Ron

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Speaker 2: Harper's son, or Ace Bailey, who's also at Rutgers. You

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Speaker 2: give me two lottery picks, give me the Rookie of

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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna need. I'm gonna need more than that for Giannis,

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Speaker 3: gonna need more than that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin and I still have question marks about the

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Speaker 4: number two and three picks that were on the same

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Speaker 4: team that didn't make the NCAA Turning.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's what jumps out. Ben Simmons team didn't

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Speaker 2: make the NCAA tournament. Markel Fold's team didn't make the

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Speaker 2: NCAA tournament. You have two guys who are going to

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Speaker 2: go in the top five. They might go number two

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Speaker 2: and number three. They didn't make the NCUBA turn It's

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Speaker 2: hard to not make the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Mart, they barely made the Big ten tournament. Like legit,

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Speaker 4: they were on the cuss of not making the Big

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Speaker 4: ten tournament.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. More on the Knick's choke job.

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Speaker 2: Head back to the NFL owners meetings. Chris Weber will

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Speaker 2: join us a little bit later on as well. Minister

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Speaker 2: of Humor Fritzi is here. Seat and Marv yours truly

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Speaker 2: backroom guys, Hour two on this Thursday.

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Speaker 3: On the way