WEBVTT - EP 115: The Mac Minister Interview 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.720 When I wrote, y'all all across the USC conton lots, 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:10.680 thank to l A. Come on the California the Valley. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.200 We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.840 it rail on your side of your town, you tune 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.120 into Gangster Chronicles Gangster Chronic Goals. He gonna tell you 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.480 how we go. If I like my nose, will girl 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.720 like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.680 but the truth Gangster Chronic Goals. This is not your 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:36.320 average show. You're now tuned into the rail m c A, 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:45.040 Dick James, and mix Staires from the streets. Hello, Welcome 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.680 to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.080 Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.680 the I Heard Happen. Subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles for 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.320 my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.280 Subscribe to the gainst the Chronicles and leave a five 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.040 star rate in the comment. We've like to welcome everyone 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.000 to another episode of a Gangster Chronicles podcast. And I 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:09.440 want my dogs Jill and you know the craziest ship 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.160 man you know. We've been doing this short a while 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.960 now and this year long. You don't heard from a 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.319 brother that you know Virgi on the weed dispensary. Man, 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.720 cats pretty much came in and kiddingap Pim and just 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.440 doing in jail, you know, kept his shops open and 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.160 ship and just threw him in jail. But I ain't 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.880 never heard nothing like the conversation we had ship. Well, 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:33.720 it was the first for me. They his lawyer testified 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.399 against him. That's confidential ship. Lawyer can't go against you. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.040 They can't use him in court. And they just telling 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:44.960 him don't come back. His lawyer got him convicted. That's 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.360 some cold ship right there. So and then you gotta 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:52.400 look at it. Where yet Las Vegas make their own rules, man, Yeah, 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.200 Las Vegas ain't bullshit when it comes down. Look at 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.040 old Jay. You know, they didn't want to hear nothing 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.559 if you convicted. If they feel you convicted, you that's 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.120 going to jail. That's crazy to me, man. You know, 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.600 like you said, it's brought it's lawyer back king man, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.000 And uh, I don't know how that was national news. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.960 Come man, this black mother. They ain't even to make 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.320 that ship national, especially when they're sucking up when they 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.680 take you off the street. That dude was kidnaps. That 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:25.079 dude was. They don't want that, don't want that ship. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.959 They're not gonna put it out there that they they 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:33.200 violated every right that man had. Yeah, you know, you know, 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.520 just just to give everybody some context. M everybody knows 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.480 what happened. You know, he allegedly and with another guy 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.520 lured um fat tone cat from Vegas and retribution for 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.080 the mcdred murder and um, you know, allegedly gunned them 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.000 down out there. And it's been he's been in jail 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.280 for fifteen years. I'm just wondering. It's like, you know, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.560 if he does get out, which is saying he's saying 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.679 he got a pretty good chance, does he have any 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.200 restitution coming? Oh, yeah, you're gonna definitely get paid because 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.119 they violated all his rights. The lawyer, he could suit, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.519 the lawyer, his lawyer he had. That lawyer should lose 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.359 his license because he know that was against the law, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.320 against the constitution. Um, that's just like a motherfucker telling 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.280 me my wife got to testify me on the case. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.639 No she don't. And that's exactly what they did to him. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.200 So when he get out, and if he don't, if 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:31.000 they don't come at him with the take three years probasion. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.200 We'll let you out right now. If you take probasion, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.760 he ain't getting ship because that you're still guilty. They're 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.560 still saying you're guilty, but we're letting you out a 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.360 bunt of these circumstances, under these conditions. So if he 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.600 fight it all the way and beat it and they 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.320 let him out, he could sue the state of the Vata. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.440 He could sue that lawyer and the dude. He's gonna 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.760 be a millionaire when he come home. They set the eagle, 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.800 e could be straight man. So you think they gonna 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.080 settle with him, And of course they ain't gonna let 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.760 him pick the terms and and and put down to 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.280 settle that. Ere just just take this and let's just 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:11.119 kill this. Let's kill it. Hush hush. It's crazy, man, 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.920 you know, um. And you know, with that being said, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.520 we're about to play this um conversation that we had 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.680 with mcminister who's presently locked up Las Vegas, Nevada. Pay 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.640 attention to it now. I'm gonna tell you this, Um. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.080 We believe in people exercise their freedom of speech. He 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.520 said some things on there. Those things, he's his own person. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.360 Anything he says, it's coming out of mcminister's mouth has 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.520 nothing not the views of the hosts of the Gangster Chronicles. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.640 We give dudes a chance to express themselves because, like 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.520 he said, it's freedom of speech, so you can say 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.359 what the funk you want, you know that just it 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.400 doesn't necessarily mean that your views are the views that 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:55.320 we think. But we give people a platform here too, 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.080 especially when you deal with you know, the situations are 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.560 being locked up, being incarcerated, being wrongfully fucked over, you 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.200 know what I'm saying. So we give we give niggas 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.240 a chance on this show to express themselves when they 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.520 come to that. So that's how we get out exactly. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.960 And you know what, jeems, we had a lot of 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.479 stuff on YO, had some stuff you want to say today? 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:22.160 Then I forgot. I got so much that I want 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.360 to say. I want to first of all, I want 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.040 to say rest in peace to my uncle mal Uh. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:31.560 He just Paris Wednesday. Um his transition is over, man, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:36.360 he just he crossed the line and he there. Um 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.919 My didn't know. I didn't I until that last week 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:44.279 my home girl, big Mama from back Street. Um, I 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.200 really wanted to talk about I know what I want 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.840 to talk about I gotta I got a home I 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.920 got some homeboys in the neighborhood that nephew was in, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.359 you know, involved in gangs, doing this thing. You know, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.160 I ain't here to criticize whatever he went the business 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.599 he outen doing thing, but you know, getting into it 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.120 with somebody or whatever, it don't mean that you. If 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.440 I can't catch you, I'm gonna come get you. I'm 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.240 gonna come get your mama, Come get your grandmama. And 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.520 don't mean you could write on the church. You know, 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.240 back in the days we had respect, but for those 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.960 mamas didn't have nothing to do with what we was 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.400 doing out there in the streets. If if we saw 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.120 you with mama, you gotta pass. If we saw you 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:30.320 with your kids today, ain't today I catch you one again. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.320 You know what I'm saying. That type of ship. We 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.159 didn't go and knock on the doors, Uh, targeting grandmama's 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.480 and mama's. Uh, you know, I just went in board 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:45.120 Miss Stevenson. The hospital bid she come on Wednesday. Uh. Uh, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.719 somebody knocked on the door. Shout a leg off, shout 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.880 O with a k. She survived when she lost her 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.320 leg in the process. I went today and uh, I 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.760 got her hospital bid she come on Wednesday. We're gonna 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.520 have a little party for her son. And she eighty 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.640 four years old. And to say that, man, you know, 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.080 our grandmama's ain't got nothing to do with how we 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.400 get damned. And if we got respect, I mean, if 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.320 that should get out going and do what you do, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.720 but don't take it to the grandmama's, don't take it 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.160 to the grandpa's, don't take it to the church. And 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.320 that's how we get down. That's how you at least 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:25.040 respect those rules. And you know, I thank god that 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.559 she survived. That she's stronger than most you know, most 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.200 people would you know, brothers get here with that k 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.080 is over. She survived, and uh, I'm just out there 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.280 trying to do whatever I can do for to make 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.000 it make her comfortable, you know what I'm saying. And 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.480 ship like this, I kind of feel guilty, you know 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.679 what I'm saying, because of how I lived my life. 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.080 But I never went to nobody door and took it 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.400 to their mama. I took it down our house, then 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.920 got shut up our house. Them being cocktailed the whole nine. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.720 That's why they got a word called retaliation. I'm coming back, 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.920 get your ass. You feel me. But I didn't go 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.520 after your mama. You know what I'm saying. I hope 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.520 y'all your brothers and that's bloods and cribs. I hope 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.480 we we understand that. And I know the O. G. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.840 S knew exactly what I'm talking about. Those that that's 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.280 how the lines of ship today. He's young cash, don't 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.160 have a pass. Ain't given a pass, even with your kids, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.480 even with your grandkids. Come on, man, that's not to 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.880 get down. It's not to get all old ladies and gentlemen, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:38.800 the macminister and if you against the chronicles, okay, So 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.200 I chumped up. I jumped up in the middle of 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.040 the testimony, and I say, it's nick that you're lying. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:50.320 I was in jail. I was in jail March of 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.280 oh six, and my code defeating was in jail summer 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.840 of old fix. So how the fund can you possibly 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.640 be anywhere around us? The prosecutor jump up. No, no, 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.520 your honor um and the and this this name is 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.880 the Jacomo. I understand his name because it's some other 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.200 eventiness to to take place. And right now he's scrambling 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.360 because he didn't done some five ship. He's a professional liar. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.840 So anyway, make a long story short, this bitch jump 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.080 up and say no, your honor. Mr Doward was Mr 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.800 Dowd was not in custody him and his cold defendant. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.120 I said, hold on, bitch, before you get this bitch 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.120 up in line like that, get your facts straight. So 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.880 he looked and he go, oh, your honor round. Sorry. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.319 I was the one who told Mr Mouton that. I said, 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:41.360 so you told him to say that when I did that? 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.800 When I did that, what you think the funk they did? 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.600 But I tell you what they did at trial, they 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:55.199 had these switches whole testimony. His testimony was he saw 0:09:55.320 --> 0:10:00.880 me No. Of around November or December of oh five, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.240 and being he said that he had these conversations with me. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.839 Now mind you before I go, then when you look 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.160 at the paper, you see you see the shenanigans that 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.000 was taking place. They violated the six Amendment right, the 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:19.480 Council of Choice. So structural error, that is a structural error. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.920 That's an automatic reversal because the truth, because the six 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.360 Amenment right, the Council of Choices, you don't have to 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.560 prove prejudice. All has to be shown is that it 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.480 even happened, as long as it happened as a reversal. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.400 So this is what they do when I get ready 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.960 to go to trial. The attorneys that are hired, he 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.199 takes once he give my money, he's sending his supporting 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.840 this in the court and they say, now, I don't 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.360 got no paper in front of him. I'm going off 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.440 photographic memory of this ship. Did they say, your honor, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.200 Mr scroll gets out of the country. He'll be flying 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.640 in in the wee hours of the morning that trial starts. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.240 We're asking that the court give Mr Dower three ain't 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.200 delay and allow the co defendant to go first. That way, 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.840 it will not disrupt your calendar call. The judge said, no, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.840 we're going We're dacing. He said, we're dancing today. That's 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.920 what we're doing. We're dancing today. I said to him, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.959 I said, looking around. If no, he said, I'm going 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.560 to a point he said, scrolls out here. So what 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.240 I'm gonna do. I'm gonna appoint you too, guys to 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:28.160 go to travel. Mr Doal. I jumped up. They don't 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.000 even know me like that. I don't even know. They 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.280 don't know nothing about my case. I said, how you 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.280 gonna gonna point them to take care of my case. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.880 And I said, Scroll, my attorney, Scrolls who I pay? 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.840 He said, well, Scroll wanted to be here, here, be here, 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.240 he's not here. This is who you're dancing with. I said, well, 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.240 you're honor if you're gonna take my attorney. These exact 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.720 words that this motherfucker said to me. Now hear me. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.720 I said, you're honor if you're gonna take my attorney. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.320 Once you allow me a little bit of tosson, I 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.000 can hire another attorney. He said, in our quote, I 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.000 don't give an if your hired Bowls or the clown, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:08.760 he'd better be ready to go to trial right now. Yeah, 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.959 he got to learn. That's that's he can't do that. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.680 He can't do that. And I and I see how 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.120 how they twisted up. Now, let me tell you I 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:23.600 lived in Vegas from ninety nine to two thousand and something, 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.400 going back and forth from here to CALLI. And one 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.440 thing about Los Vegas rules, they police, they course don't 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:38.079 play the same way California do. Yeah, they don't. They're 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:47.679 totally different. And the people work they worked you. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.320 but see now, but but see listened to this though 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.839 see one thing about it. It's about it ain't even 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:58.280 about them. Sometimes a law would take you out of 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.920 a situation and put you somethingwhere just to preserve you, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.400 just for you to get a good look at who 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.880 is who is? What is what you did? When I'm saying, 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.960 because it's a lot of cats that I knew in 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.600 this industry, and then nobody came to help. And just 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.040 like I was saying, you know what I mean, motherfucker's 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.640 await to help you when they gotta surage in your 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.679 arm and any of them all don't kill such and such, 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:23.800 don't all bit shut up, don't wait for a tragedy 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.920 to take place. And did say something? Step and everybody 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.440 not because you are broke. But I always gonna ask you, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.240 am you know this? This whole thing seemed faulty from 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.320 the from the snicks they bought in. It's you ain't 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.640 no Adam and his life to the point where it ain't. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.319 Nobody came to your aide, bro ain't nobody wants to 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.760 say it? You know what, let's let's let's step up 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.800 for this. Why do you think that's not gonna happen? 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:56.560 That don't happen because well, what I'm gonna let me 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.880 have exactly. Well, let me tell you. Motherfucker's came, but 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.200 they lied to me. See, let me, let me, let me, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:03.640 let me tell, let me just let me tell you. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.000 The first person that came to me that was genuine, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.280 they wanted to help me. And because I'm honorable and 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.920 I'm a real one, I didn't want to make I 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.760 didn't want to rufle no feathers around on, no cages. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.800 And the person that came to me, the first motherfucker 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.080 that came to me that sent out a message to 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.200 my people. Demo. He got in my folks, Demo, the 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.960 youngswer and that was shoot then shoot up hall as Demo. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.280 He said, Man, he said, tell macminister, I got these 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:35.640 lawyers are there. They're help him. You know what I mean. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.200 He was talking about David Chasina. He was like, look, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.920 I got this lawyer there, help him. You know me. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:46.440 Tell MC to call me. I told Demo man, all right, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.280 I'm all right. I got the number. So I called Shook. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.520 I'm talking to him and I say this, Shig. I say, look, 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.240 I said, my nigga, I said, I appreciate you reaching 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.080 out to me, big Shug, I said, but you know 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.920 I fun with Snoop and Dr Dre and them, I 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.080 and I, and you know I got a relationship with them. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.640 I said, Man, I don't want to be like everybody 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.240 else that they fucked with it just jumped ship or 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.600 made it seem like a motherfucker. I'm from the Bay. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.160 I funk with Christian blood. But at the same time, 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.720 I didn't want to be like having the nigga looking 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.040 at me like, oh, this nigga, you know, like left 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.000 or they would have been like I would have helped 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.840 him while he let she help him. But this is 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.480 that in the third so she was like, and she'll 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.160 have said, Man, the niggas ain't gonna help you. Just 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.640 like that, he said, the niggas is not gonna help you. Mac, 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.360 get off the phone. I know you're right. So when 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.920 I get convicted the next time, should reach out to me, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.600 he said. He tells Demo. He said, Man, you tell Mack. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.400 He was not like a sucker. That was big ship 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.560 of words to me. Man. And that's because and being 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.360 It's like, when you look at the totality of everything 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.680 in the events, you would think any nigga that got 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.040 some realness in him can runs with Nick and helping nigga. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:05.080 Nigga ain't get nothing dishonorable. How did you not come 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:10.400 in a aid and assist a real How you say 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.360 you're real with but motherfucker's don't do that? And then 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.280 I do the most honorable ship. See I'm too honorable 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:21.360 sometimes for my own self and with God show me goodbye. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:28.080 So basically what our sayings, uh folks, is that, um, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.520 you know, when the when the nigga is going through 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.440 some of you and you and if you want, if 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.600 you're looking at the iron ere tests and you're listening 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.680 and you're watching years going by and the nigga has 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.680 his stink and maintained his innocence, but at the same time, 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.040 the nigga have not even tuned the integrity other game. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.720 I don't just popping. I stand by and I live 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.960 by it. You did what I'm saying, you know, Um, 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.920 I have. It's a few home boys that I had 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.840 had they did, they had life sentences. They got overturned. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.880 One of my best friends, Jay Stone, had a life sensen. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.760 You did what I'm saying, and he got overturned. So 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.879 out of absolutely let me tell you something in the 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.919 process of that right now. But my thing is that 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.760 you know the cats that's out there with voice, see 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.920 to me. Let me tell you my favorite activists out there. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.920 And then just because he's my favorite basketball player, because 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.080 you know, we can talk about sports on another level. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.840 But my favorite guy is Lebron. You know a lot 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:32.639 of motherfucker's are sitting up and you get niggas and 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:37.320 be a man. Launch nigga. He is the biggest voice 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:41.280 in the fucking sports. And then nigga always speak up. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.280 And the first time that I really started keeping the 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.199 but I mean, I've been only on this game. I 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.720 was like, this motherfucker is great. Man. They they they 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.760 send us. You know, he liked Bruce Lee with a basketball. 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.280 And I say that because you're sending a whole school 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:59.760 of motherfucker's the fighting it. It takes a super team 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.160 to eat him. You ain't gonna just if he got 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.600 to help or another superstar that helped Nikka, the niggas 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.200 will win ten championships. Now with that said, I'm saying 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.960 that to say this man, when when Trayver Morton got killed, 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:18.320 I never forget. I'm watching the game. Lepron come out, man, 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.399 and the nigga put a hoodie on Man, that was 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:30.080 so symbolic. Yeah, he didn't have to do that. He 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:35.880 he didn't have to do that. He was Kavin. Nick 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.359 did the same thing. Nick, Come on, he listen my 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.760 nigga and Cap hold on love Cap Love Cap. I'm 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.480 not cap so much. Man. I stopped sucking listening to 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.720 jay Z. J Z broke my motherfucker lord niggas. I 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.960 looked at j V, I said, j Z games up. 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.040 Listen to Ja Nigga fuck with Ja, nigga. When jay 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.200 Z got on that motherfucking I'm watching TMZ, that's your 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.280 a highlight of jay Z sitting there with look a 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.920 deal and that nigga said, We're not kneeling no more, Nigga, 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.399 What the funk you want? Nigga, don't get down the 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.000 mica the funk you mean? We ain't kneeling no more? Nigga? 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:14.000 Are you fucking serious? They're killing niggas. Oh boy, let 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.160 me tell you what these motherfucker's did to me, nigga 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.520 in in my situation, this is real ship, Nicka. I'm 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:23.560 driving down the motherfucking highway right now. These bit has 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:25.240 got me all over the internet, said they want to 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.160 talk to me nigga, I know by law, policy, contract, 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.560 whatever fun you want to call it. I don't have 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.920 to talk to no fucking body without the presence of 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.119 an attorney. And I ain't even got to talk of 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.199 their the attorney is president. I got a right to 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.159 remain silent. It's a fifth of memory, right, Nigga, I 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.399 don't got to talk to you. Make a long story, 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.879 shot man. I'm driving down the highway. The motherfucker highway 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.080 patrol pulled me over. When I pull over? When I 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:58.359 pull over, get this motherfucker the driver's license, the rental 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:03.359 car agreement, a registration. I'm in the car with my nephew, 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:09.680 Dante rest in peace. Think. So we're in the car. 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:14.240 I'm giving all this information. I'm sitting there looking down, 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.680 turning the radio. My nigga, I happened my nephew go 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.000 Chop because that's my name, Shoppa Chapa. So he says, 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.520 He says, Uncle Chop. Nigga. Look, I looked in the 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.120 rear view. This motherfucking white boy got his motherfucking gun. 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.680 I was creeping up to the car. Nigga, I smash, 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:38.520 y'all we do a high speed Nigga, I'm talking about Nigga. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.199 They got the helicopter, all kind of ship looking for 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.919 me on the high speed. I don't even know, and 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.120 I didn't have a want. They just wanted to talk 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.639 to me. All this year was because they wanted to 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:53.080 have a conversation with me. Down. I parked the car, 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:59.840 walk away, getaway, hear me, Nigga. I turned now, listen, 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.920 I go to this attorney named Eileen Burke. I talked 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.320 to Eileen and I and then Ailie said, look, Chop, 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.200 you needed you if she said, you need to turn 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:12.439 yourself in so that um they don't be looking for 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.119 you and doing all this actra ship. They don't got 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.400 a warrn out for you. So but if you go 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.800 to the um to the place where she's like, go 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.480 to the go to the public bottom. I go to 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.760 the police. Spiagure to turn yourself in. Nig I do 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:28.480 that right, turn myself in now by me turning to 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:32.879 myself in, it's some motherfucking pot speed chase. I did crash. 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.480 It's not a felony high speed. It's amissing me. I 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.199 didn't crash, that hit nobody, nobody lifing danger, none of that. 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.040 Like I said, I parked this motherfucking vehicle, got out, 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.120 got on the bus and got the fun from there. 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:50.320 When I come back, they told a car. So when 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.399 I get to the county jail, now, mind you go 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:57.240 Vice President Kamala Harris at the time, it's the fucking 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:04.399 head District Attorney of San Francisco, right, Nigga, that that bitch. 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.800 I don't know why everybody keep back and our official 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:11.640 because she not Nigga, don't letter. That's why they ain't 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.560 said a motherfucking thank else about what that motherfucking white 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.320 boy did at that motherfucker Stay Capital. Nigga, he went 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.360 up in there niggating, murdered some people. Now and now 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.640 now to get back to her, Nigga, my motherfucking bill 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:29.800 was higher than that pussy on the statue, a little bigger. 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.439 They was trying to contect and and Nigga. I had 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.240 this lawyer, I had this lawyer named Eric Safire. Nigger. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.159 He'd come in there, he holding the coup it in 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:41.360 the courtroom. Again, it's white privilege because he's literally comes 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:45.200 no fucking way, Judge. They can't just keep him in here. 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.880 They can't. They can't hold him. Hostitch. They're saying, well, 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.239 the vada want to talk to him, he said, you're 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:52.760