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Speaker 1: Professor mitchiu Cuckoo. But you how long will it take

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Speaker 1: to terra form Mars? And do we need to have

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Speaker 1: a terraform before we really can go there and settle Well,

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Speaker 1: first we want to get an outpost on Mars. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna probably use lava tube that already exists, ready made,

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Speaker 1: ready made caves on Mars. Uh. Then we're gonna have,

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Speaker 1: of course, the solar panels displayed to gain to gain energy.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start where the mining operation to mind the

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Speaker 1: ice ice can be purified for drinking water, separated out

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Speaker 1: for oxygen for breathing, and then hydrogen for rocket fuel.

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Speaker 1: And then after that agriculture will get started on Mars uh.

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Speaker 1: And we'll do that with genetically modified algae and plants

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Speaker 1: that can thrive thrive in the harsh environment of Mars.

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Speaker 1: So once we have an agriculture set up, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: set up farms, and so we'll have a self sustaining

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Speaker 1: settlement without having to have the apron strings tied to

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Speaker 1: the Earth. Will have a self sufficient settlement on on

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Speaker 1: planet Mars, not the terraform Mars. That is, to turn

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Speaker 1: Mars into a garden of Eden. That will require technology

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Speaker 1: of the next century. When we have solar satellites, satellites

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Speaker 1: that beam light energy down to the ice caps and

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Speaker 1: melt the ice caps. There's plenty of water on Mars,

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Speaker 1: except the water is frozen. By having these satellites beam

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Speaker 1: energy down to the polar ice cap, so we can

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Speaker 1: let liquid water flow freely in the river beds and

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Speaker 1: ocean beds of Mars. Mars once upon a time had

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Speaker 1: an ocean as big as the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: That's how big that ocean was, but it's all gone.

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Speaker 1: Now we can we can reclaim it by beginning to

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Speaker 1: heat up the north pole and the South pole to

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Speaker 1: on the surface of Mars after billions of years. So

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Speaker 1: it's a long process, but we've got to start somewhere.

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Speaker 1: How exciting just to think of the prospects of doing that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and this is with doable technology. We're not talking about

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Speaker 1: pine in the sky anymore. Us. As I mentioned, Hollywood

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Speaker 1: films are more expensive than actually going to Mars. Incredible.

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Speaker 1: They had to give an oscar for the best supporting

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Speaker 1: space probe because missions to Mars cost less than a

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Speaker 1: hundred million, but Hollywood moves more than a hundred million.

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Speaker 1: So we're at the point now where you know, China,

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Speaker 1: things have come. There's a Russian astrophysicist is gonna be

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Speaker 1: eighty six and April. You know him well, Nikolai kadash Of,

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Speaker 1: And he came up with the type one to three civilizations.

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Speaker 1: Now people are talking about four and five. Does it

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Speaker 1: the type three would be galactic like Star Wars. And

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Speaker 1: what could be extra galactic? Well, if you think about

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Speaker 1: And what kind of energy would they use? They would

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Speaker 1: We're seeing the beginning of a Type one sports the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: It is the energy of a black hole. It is

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Speaker 1: Presley is still alive in one of these parallel universes. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Earth. Mitchell, tell me your thoughts about extraterrestrial life.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we and have we been visited? Well, first,

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Speaker 1: be something called the giggle factor. That is, when a

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Speaker 1: scientist we hear somebody talk about aliens from out of space,

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Speaker 1: you know, scientists would giggle and they're eyes would roll

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Speaker 1: a sigh. Well, those days are gone. They're gone because

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Speaker 1: in our leading institutions we have exo biologists. We have

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Speaker 1: scientists who created a new field of science called exobiology,

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Speaker 1: where they look at the biology of alien life in

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Speaker 1: outer space. What might they look like, how might they evolve,

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Speaker 1: what happens if we encounter them? All these questions are

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Speaker 1: being asked to scientific conferences, not UFO conferences, but in

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Speaker 1: scientific conferences. Yeah, we scientists ask these questions now. It's amazing,

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