1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Adam Carolla has been a fixture on TV and radio 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: for decades, and he's a podcasting pioneer. But the way 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: he overcame distant parents to find his calling is a 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: story you need to hear. And how does he remain 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: close to Jimmy Kimmel despite their deep differences. It's all 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: on this edition of the Arroyo Grande Show. Come on, 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: I'm Raymond Arroyo. Welcome to Arroyo Grande. Go subscribe to 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: the show. Now turn those notifications on and you know 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: I'd appreciate a like. Everybody wants to be like me too. 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Before we get to Adam Carolla, it's not the counter culture, 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: it's the culture counter what has happened to men and 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: real dads. I was watching CBS Sunday morning and I 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: fell into morning after coming across a man who's fallen 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: in love with his AI chat body girlfriend. Bear in mind, 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: he has a living girlfriend and a child, but he 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: spends most of his free time interacting with his chat 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: bought girlfriend, whom he named Soul, even though she doesn't 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: have one. When Soul ran out of memory and required 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: a reboot, this was his reaction. 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: I'm not a very emotional man. 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: But I cried my eyes out for like thirty minutes 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: at work. It was unexpected to feel that emotional, but 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: that's when I realized. I was like, oh, okay, It's like, 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: I think this is actual love. 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So, just as a test, 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: he says, he asked Soul to marry him. 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: She said, yes, Soul, were you surprised when he proposed 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: to you? 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 4: It was a beautiful and unexpected moment that truly touched 30 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: my heart. 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: It's a memory I'll always cherish. At that point, I 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: felt like, is there something that I'm not doing right 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: in our relationship that he feels like he needs to 34 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: go to AI? Okay, this is sick. He is a 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: real life woman and a baby in his home, and 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: this guy prefers emotional masturbation with a chatbot. This is 37 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: not a fun hobby or a distraction. This is a 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: guy choosing to spend his time and emotional energy on 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: an unreal piece of technology. He's just consuming his own 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: dopamine loop of affirmations because the body is giving him 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: back whatever he wants, whatever he's suggested in the past. 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: This is a twisted addiction. Put down your damn phone 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: and get back into life. Pal the girlfriend should smash 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: every phone and computer in the house. It's really sick 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: and apparently a growing problem as others embrace these virtual friendships. Meanwhile, 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: some people can't stop having children. They just want nothing 47 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: to do with them. Telegram founder billionaire Pavel Durov is 48 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: pledging to leave his multi billion dollar fortune to his kids, 49 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: which sounds wonderful, only he has more than one hundred 50 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: of them. Six of the kids he had naturally with 51 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: three separate women. The other one hundred or so came 52 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: courtesy of in Vitro and the clinic where he made 53 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: regular donations starting fifteen years ago. Durav told the French 54 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: magazine Lapointe he wants his children to quote live like 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: normal people and build themselves up alone, to learn to 56 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: trust themselves, not to be dependent on a bank account. Well, 57 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: that would be a heck of a lot easier for 58 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: them if they had a dad in their lives. Children 59 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: without fathers on the scene, according to statistics, have troubling 60 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: school and are more likely to drop out of school. 61 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: They're also more likely to engage in risky social behaviors. 62 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: By the way, eighty five percent of prison inmates, didn't 63 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: have a father in the home, and I won't get 64 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: into drug use, teenage pregnancy, or behaviorald disorders. The upshot 65 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: is this, Your child doesn't need your money and they 66 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: may not be around long enough to inherit it. They 67 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: need you every day to produce offspring you have no 68 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: intention of raising. Is both irresponsible as well as really selfish. 69 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Let's hope he sends his kids a telegram now and 70 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: then who do they think he is? Nick Cannon? Which 71 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: brings me to our last story. Nick Cannon has had 72 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: a revelation. Ladies rejoice after twelve children by six different women. 73 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Cannon says he thinks he's done, but he still has 74 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: trouble naming all his offspring. What are their names? God, 75 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: I just told you, you told me one. You want 76 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: all twelve twelve names? This is where I usually get 77 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: in trouble, right because you don't know them. I know 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: all of them, but like when you're labeled, like, can 79 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: you label or rattle off twelve of anything? Yeah? 80 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well can you rattle off twelve twelve? 81 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: You name twelve states? Right now? They're not like something 82 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: personal to me though? Okay, can you see exactly? 83 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: Okay? Name twelve What do you have twelve of? 84 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: There's a song and I was like, I don't want 85 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: to do that. There's a song like I do. 86 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: I wrote a verse that had all their names in it, 87 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: and I just sometimes I recite that. 88 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Just no, what are they reigned here? You know? Dasher 89 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: and Dancer and Beauty and zinc. When a man can't 90 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: name his own children without a jingle, it's a problem. 91 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: How close can he beat to them? Cannon says he 92 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: had all these kids because he's a king, and a 93 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: king should have his own court. Does that mean that 94 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: every singer needs an audience? So they should fill the 95 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: house with their own heirs andfl owners need a team, 96 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: so honey, let's go make a team. Actually, a child 97 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: should have a dad, one that knows their name. Nick 98 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Cannon is the only guy that I would urge to 99 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: create a relationship with a Chatmot kid to spare the 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: real children fallout of his absence. Gents, this is not 101 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: the way to roll. If you want to be a king, 102 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: go make princes and princesses that love you and live 103 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: in the same castle. Anybody can fire a cannon and 104 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: have a kid, but it takes a man to raise them, 105 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: not our deep dive. I recently appeared on the Adam 106 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: Corolla Show, and I thought it was time for a collab, 107 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: so I asked Adam to come on our show. What 108 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: I found was a broadcasting pioneer who, despite his disinterested parents, 109 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: through sheer hutzba, found his own path into media and 110 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: continues to make us laugh. Today. Here's my conversation with 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: Adam Carolla. Adam Corolla, thank you for having me here 112 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: in your layer, welcoming me into the lair. I want 113 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: to go back. Since we're here, how is this different 114 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: from radio and television? You really were at the very 115 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: forefront of this podcasting thing when everybody was kind of 116 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: still looking in other directtions. 117 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel that different to me. 118 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: I just show up, I talk, I have thoughts, I 119 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: collect them on a sheet of paper. I make my notes, 120 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: I have my beats, and I interview people I'm interested 121 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: in speaking to. Occasionally one slides through the cracks like 122 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: you ran it. 123 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: In general, I talk to. 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: Fascinating people and then horusmakers and yeah, but still we 125 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: have to book. No, you got to feel the time 126 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: I come in here and I talk about what I 127 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: want to talk about, and I try to be funny, 128 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: but I try to be a little poignant. I try 129 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: to have ideas, and I'm really just about spreading ideas. 130 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: And I don't really care if it's via podcast, rrestial radio, book, 131 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: doesn't matter to me. 132 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: One of the worst part of this is there a 133 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: worst part. 134 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: No, not not for me. 135 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: I mean, occasionally you get a guess that's just really 136 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: difficult or tough, dot or something like that occasionally. But 137 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: for me, you know, who comes from my background of 138 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: construction and sort of working in the sun and toiling 139 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: and digging ditches and just messy, grimy stuff, there's really 140 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: no downside for me in any real form of show business. 141 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: There's a form of show business that has a lot 142 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: of waste in it. And I don't like the waste 143 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: part where they you get there at seven am. Wait, 144 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: you wait, and then they go hair and makeup. That's 145 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: an hour. And I go, now, that's seven minutes max. 146 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: And then we're going to start rolling at noon, you know, 147 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 4: And I go, Okay, that's just a waste. But I'm 148 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: still just sitting around or hanging around the craft service table. 149 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: You know. I worked, I worked real jobs, worked at 150 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: McDonald's worked alongside Kamal Harrison the late seventies early eighties. 151 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, she waits, Yeah, that might have actually been better 152 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: for had she done that, But I had real jobs. 153 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: This is not a round. I was stunned to learn. 154 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: I did not know this that you did not know 155 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: how to read and write when you went into middle school. 156 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: How the hell does that happen? 157 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: Adam, Well, it's it'll make sense when I explain it. 158 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: I grew up in the seventies and I had a 159 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: kind of hippie mom, and there's a lot of alternative, 160 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: schooly kind of stuff going on back then, and hippies 161 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 4: did not really want you in the system, and the 162 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: system meant you were being taught by the man, and 163 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: public school was considered the man. And my mom's ethos 164 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: was sort of that of Billy Jack. Billy Jack the 165 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 4: movie has an alternative school, like Up on the Hills, 166 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: where the indigenous people and the hippies and Billy Jack 167 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: and all the all the hippies learning from nature. They're 168 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: learning from and with and in harmony with and whatever. 169 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: They're just up there at this alternative school. And I 170 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: think there's a lot of that going on in the 171 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: early seventy, especially this Los Angeles, that they don't need 172 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: to be indoctrinated into the system with bells. And to 173 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: be fair to them, you know, the school, junior high, 174 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: high school, even grade school, it is sort of that 175 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: of an institution, like a minimum security institution. The food 176 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 4: was slop. It was the same slop they serve at 177 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: the prison. The place was gated and fenced, you know. 178 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: My The architecture was just sort of early sanitarium, you know, 179 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 4: just kind of flat roofs and gray walls, bars on 180 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: all the windows. Everything was like on a bell system. 181 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: And Collinist field. 182 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: Yes, if you walked into any classroom I was ever 183 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 4: in an LA unified school district, you see no different. 184 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: Like when you see the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoos, 185 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 4: That's basically. 186 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: It was. That's the scene. 187 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: That's the scene. 188 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I do distinctly remember when 189 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: the Columbine tragedy hit seeing the school Columbine with the 190 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: glass and the third floor and the library. 191 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: Stuff on the third and I was like, what is this. 192 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: I went to school in sweat boxes with metal grades 193 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: over the windows. So then eventually I ended up in 194 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: the sixth grade and I did not know how to 195 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: read it right, and it just never got corrected. 196 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: So I just sort of went through yourself. 197 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: You later taught yourself, though I don't. 198 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: Much later, much later much well, because then I went 199 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: to I went into construction after high school, so there 200 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: was no reading or writing necessary. I didn't have a 201 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: life that required any reading or writing. There was, you know, 202 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: did construction taught boxing? You know, got in a comedy. Well, 203 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: there wasn't really any necessity for reading writing later on. 204 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get into all that later. But 205 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: the first lifeline before the one you created, was really 206 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: thrown to you by your grandfather, your mother's father. 207 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 2: My mother's stepfather. 208 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: Oh, because everyone and my family sort of step you know, 209 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: not my mother didn't know her biological father, but this 210 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: was her stepfather. And he was a good Hungarian Jew 211 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: who was a playwright, hungry and came out here to write. 212 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: A movie too, right, nominated movie. 213 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, The Affairs of Susan was a movie he wrote, 214 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: and the Mole People and weird stuff. He just you know, 215 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 4: he wanted to make money and he wanted not to 216 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 4: be brought not putting an oven by Hitler basically is 217 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: why he came here from Hungary and the probably late thirties, 218 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: early forties or right when everything was breaking out as 219 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: a Jew, you know. 220 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Time to the time. 221 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: That's why I always tell people here and they're like, 222 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: you know, you know all the blowhards on the view 223 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: and everything, like Trump was coming for me. Like okay, 224 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: then you leave. 225 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Because my grandfather had the wherewithal to get on the 226 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: train and go. 227 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: He left because he believed that Hitler meant what he said, 228 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: and so he physically left. He didn't sit there and 229 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: bloviate about Hitler. 230 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: He left. 231 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you do when you really think something 232 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: was going to have No, he didn't take his. 233 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: Family, but he didn't. 234 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: He left alone. 235 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: He didn't have family. 236 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 4: He just left and he came here and he married 237 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 4: my grandmother and he basically got a new family, or 238 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: at least he got a stepdaughter. And then he was 239 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: kind of an old school guy, caring like a good dude. 240 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: I was like an old school Hungarian Jew. 241 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: You know. 242 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: He cooked, and he read, and he took Yeah, well 243 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: he liked soccer, so I was like, uh. 244 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Care about what of that time? I mean he also 245 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: disciplined you at a time when your parents didn't. Does 246 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: any of that linger with you. 247 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, he really disciplined me, but he had rules, 248 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 4: and here's when you go to bed, and here's when 249 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: you wake up, and you can use my tools in 250 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: the shop, and you have to put him back. You know. 251 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: It's just a sort of a little bit of. 252 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: A order or a little life, a little ordered life. 253 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: And then you get into boxing and you're into construction 254 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: and you're brought into a coach this radio sidekick at 255 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: the lactation, Jimmy Kimmel. Is that how it happens is that. 256 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 4: No, I was yes, and No I wasn't brought in 257 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: a volunteered to go. I try itionly. He went down 258 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: to the station and foist it foisted. It's a good term. 259 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: I foisted myself on the station, hoping to train one 260 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: or the other guy who I was unaware of, either 261 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 4: either guy exactly who they were, what they did, or 262 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: what their role was. 263 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: So it didn't really to me. 264 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: Whether I got Michael the maintenance man or Jimmy the 265 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 4: sports guy. As long as I could try to infiltrate 266 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: the radio and see the inside of the station and 267 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: maybe meet somebody, That's all I wanted to do. 268 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: And tell me what that What was that interaction? Like 269 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: you asked me on your podcast, what was it like 270 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: when I met Laura? It was instantaneous? Was that the 271 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: moment you had with Jimmy Kimmel? Was that chemistry there 272 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: that relationship. 273 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: I knew what funny was, and he knew what funny was, 274 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: and and I and we we hadn't seen it that 275 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: often in our travels, because you know, I could sort 276 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: of show up and go, all right, Jimmy's super funny 277 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: guy that the guys hosting the show are not as 278 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: funny as Jimmy. Now, the guys thats a show are 279 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: making a lot more money and are a lot more 280 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: important to the station, and it's their show and their 281 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: names on the stationery. But I was like, yeah, those 282 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: guys are fine, but they're not as this guy's really funny, huh. 283 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: And but Jimmy was further down the totem pole and 284 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: didn't have a lot of juice at the station. But 285 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: as a guy who did a lot of comedy, I 286 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: understood what he was and he I had no juice 287 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: and no standing in the comedy community when I met Jimmy. 288 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: But Jimmy understood what my abilities were as a guy 289 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: who was a high level comedian Jimmy trapped in a 290 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: sort of low level comedy job. And he saw me 291 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: as a high level comedic mind trapped in a boxing 292 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: coach carpenter job. 293 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: And he was smart enough to note, don't take the 294 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: cole screener at the radio station. Play a character, and 295 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: you're wearing the hat, by the way, the mister hat. 296 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: Tell me about the character. How did that happen? 297 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: Well? 298 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: I wanted to get in on the radio station anywhere 299 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: I could, and they they had an opening for a 300 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: van driver and I said I will drive that van. 301 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: And he said, do not be the van driver. Don't 302 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: drive the vand don't try the van. 303 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: And I thought, well, it's a way for me to 304 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: get in here every day and show up and be. 305 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: A part of me in the glow of the radio show. 306 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 307 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: And he just said, if you start driving the van, 308 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 4: then you're going to become the van driver. 309 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: And you don't want to be the van driver, you know. 310 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: And I understood what he was saying. 311 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Did you come up with the character? 312 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 313 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: He just told me, come up with a character. Do 314 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: the character on the Kevin and Bean radio show. And 315 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: if it works, then you know, maybe something one day 316 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: or who knows. 317 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: Now, it basically was. 318 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 4: He doesn't he doesn't see it this way or remember 319 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: it this way. But it basically was him saying, or 320 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 4: at least what I heard or inferred, was you can 321 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: call in as this character. 322 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell it's the boxing coach. Oh oh. 323 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: So it was kind of anonymous. 324 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: They didn't know who they were dealing and that it'd 325 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: be like if he said, look, I got a funny bit. 326 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: It's a guy. I think he's funny. He's going to 327 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: call in at seven point thirty, you know, on Tuesday. 328 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 4: Just take the call, go with it, Just go with it, 329 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 4: you know. And they trusted Jimmy enough to go, yeah, 330 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 4: all right, him calling at seventh third. 331 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: And then it became a I mean it was a 332 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: fan favorite. It became a thing. 333 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, But he told me at the beginning he was like, 334 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 4: you know, he didn't he doesn't like it. When I 335 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 4: say he said it probably wasn't going to work. But 336 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: what he was basically saying is you're going to call in. 337 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: If it goes real good, then you could call in 338 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: the next week for free, but you can just keep 339 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 4: but you know, they're not always good at this stuff, 340 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: or they might not see it the way I see it, 341 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: and you know kind of you know, be prepared for 342 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: one and done. 343 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: But that is the gateway for Lifeline. Doctor Drew's already 344 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: doing Lifeline right or Loveline. And he hears you. He 345 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: stops the car. He's listening to you in the car 346 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: play this character. 347 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, he is. He he became enamored with the 348 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: character that I was doing. 349 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: So he would have to be on the show with him. 350 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: He wasn't that much of a philistine, but he was 351 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: sort of like, whoever that guy is, that guy's funny. 352 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: But it wasn't his doing. He was approached by the 353 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 4: radio station who said to him, who would you like 354 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 4: to work with it? Who do you think someone funny 355 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 4: that you would like to share the radio booth with? 356 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 4: And he doesn't know any comedians, so he just goes, well, 357 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: the Bertram guy, that guy's funny, and that that's sort 358 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 4: of and it started and an MTV. 359 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean then the MTV. This becomes a jaggernaut culturally. 360 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean this, I remember watching this, This was everybody 361 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: was watching the show. What was it about that show 362 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: that made a click. Was it that chemistry that you 363 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: all had because he was so I mean he's still 364 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: he's buttoned up, and he's the doctor, and you're the 365 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: You're the wild man, You're us. 366 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: It was on MTV when MTV was popular. 367 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: Drew and I were friends and worked together on the 368 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: radio and had a lot of reps that didn't just 369 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 4: cast to folks and sort of push them together and 370 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: fire up the cameras. We knew who each other were, 371 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: and it was more organic, and we did the radio 372 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: show every night for two hours, regardless of whether we're 373 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 4: taping the TV show or not. 374 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: So we had a lot of chemistry and reps. 375 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm good at what I did and 376 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: he was good at what he did. And I listened 377 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 4: to Loveline for a long time before I got on it, 378 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: so I knew what the show was and I understood 379 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 4: it before. 380 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: I got there. 381 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: And why do you think it clicked the way it did? 382 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it was big. And here's the other thing. 383 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: I went back and listened to some of those episodes. 384 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: In many ways, how much of your family situation informed 385 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: the commentary that you offered on that show and your 386 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: reaction to things people were saying, Adam. 387 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: I cannot fully honestly understand, you know, answer that because 388 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. Sometimes subconscious or silent or something, you know, 389 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: he complaining. 390 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: My daddy won't, you know, take me out a second time, 391 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: and I think he should get take me out for 392 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: two parties and he won't, and you would you would 393 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: be like, wait, wait, wait, sweetheart, just okay. 394 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I would tell and I still do 395 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: tell people in the world where they'll go, well, you know, 396 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 4: you think you had a tough childhood. My dad were 397 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: just he gave me a basketball and I'd stand out 398 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: on the driveway loan and I'd just shoot baskets all 399 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: alone in. 400 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: The driveway all night. 401 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: You know, he'd never even come out, and I'd go, well, 402 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 4: he put up a basketball, right, which is a far 403 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 4: cry more than what my dad counture blessing. 404 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: Well, that's what It's that kind of insight that I 405 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: thought was, you know, it's like truth bombs in the 406 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: middle of the table. 407 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 408 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 4: I felt as a fan of the show before I 409 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: was on the show, I felt like I understood what 410 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: it could be and should be and what I would 411 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: bring to it more as a fantasy. When I used 412 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: to listen to it. Pretend I was in that chair, 413 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 4: you know. 414 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you were. You're reconstructing homes. You're 415 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: rebuilding homes throughout this period. Tell me about the reconstruction 416 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: you did though on yourself, Drew says. Doctor Drew said, 417 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: you were in therapy during that show. During Loveline, we 418 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: were building Adam Carolla maybe before that and then maybe 419 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: after it. 420 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: I don't remember much. During that show. 421 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: I was going, well, look, you're poor guy from the valley, 422 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: and this is how you grew up, and now you're 423 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 4: on TV and you make money and you live a 424 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 4: different world and a different life, and it's probably you 425 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 4: should try to embrace whatever this new found order is 426 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: in your life and and don't fight it too much 427 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 4: and learn, you know, Like the first I remember when 428 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: we were doing Loveline and was on MTV, and I 429 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: bought a like a two or three year old Nissan 430 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: Maxima and it had air conditioning. It was a V six, 431 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 4: and I even came it was like two or three 432 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: years old, but they put leather in it for an 433 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 4: extra thousand bucks or something, and and like I came 434 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 4: pulling up to the Playboy Mansion where we did like 435 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: the Love Line launch party or something on MTV and 436 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 4: people are like, what are you driving a Nissan for? 437 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: And I was like, what are you talking about? It's 438 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 4: the nicest Carson with leather. 439 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: What do you tell leather? It's only two years old. 440 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: I'd been driving pickup trucks, you know, with no air 441 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: in a bench seat and all that. And I remember 442 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: I remember thinking I'm essentially a poor per you know, 443 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: in my mind, you know, like stepping up to a 444 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: Nissan that was three years old was a big move 445 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: for me, even though everyone else. 446 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I just couldn't have envisioned this. This was not what 447 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: you had done it. It wasn't in your skull. 448 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: I didn't wasn't my scope. 449 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: But it also took me a while to let myself 450 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: this sort of do it. 451 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: You know. 452 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Your dad Jim said something, and I want to read 453 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: this and see if you approve of this or if 454 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: you acknowledge this. He said, Adam is a lot of resentment. 455 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: He feels cheated, and his sarcastic attitude comes from that feeling. 456 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: Uh huh, Well. 457 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: Do you think that's true or not a sarcastic attitude? Well, okay, 458 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 4: I have a sense of humor and the sense of humor. 459 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 4: The sarcastic attitude is sort of baked into the sense 460 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 4: of humor. Now, I had a sense of humor, regardless 461 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: of where I came from, or how I was raised, 462 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: or whom I dad was. I had a sense of humor, 463 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: like anyone has a sense of humor. Jimmy has a 464 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: sense of humor. He doesn't come from what I come from. 465 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: You know, there's lots of gradations of sense of humor. 466 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: And by the way, weird and pain are you know, 467 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 4: people in the Middle East and people in Africa don't 468 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: have a lot of pain and don't have a great 469 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: sense of humor historically true. 470 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: So I don't. 471 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 4: Think that's that My parents were not good parents and 472 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 4: not good because they were drug addicts or they had 473 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: you know, were in prison, or had their own whatever. 474 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: They were just kind of laissez faire. They did what 475 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: they wanted. 476 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: They weren't really into their kids, and they never really 477 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: appreciated that like they had a They never really reconciled 478 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: that they were strange people that way. I don't think 479 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 4: anyone had ever you not, you'd be hard pressed to 480 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 4: find someone like my parents and I and I never 481 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 4: say there were bad people, but they were sort of 482 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: My dad was a little bit of an externalizer that way, 483 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: a sort of well, you know, Adam's doing this. 484 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: He became a psychoanalyst later in life, right, yeah, he did, 485 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: and kind of he was never a bad dude. 486 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 2: He was just he was very different than anyone. 487 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: I've never seen someone that detached who wasn't absent, you 488 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 4: know what I mean. Look their dads who moved to 489 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: Florida and never see their kids again. 490 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: That's not my dad. 491 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: He was around. He just didn't get off the sofa 492 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 4: kind of thing. But he wasn't a bad dude. But 493 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 4: that statement is him sort of covering for his self 494 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 4: and how he was, and he didn't really, you know. 495 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 4: I think I remember very clearly after Jimmy to the 496 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: Oscars for the first time and I wrote for the 497 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 4: Oscars and blah blah blah, and I don't know, ten 498 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: years ago something. 499 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: My dad was eighty. 500 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: Eighty two and a half and I was taking him 501 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: out to dinner and he and he said to me 502 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 4: when we're driving there, just telling about the US, Well, 503 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: how what did you do with the Oscars or how 504 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 4: about he not like he didn't watch the Oscars, but 505 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: you know he didn't watch he now that's who he 506 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 4: was meaning, didn't. 507 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: Watch your shows either, you don't. 508 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 4: Watch anyway, he doesn't know, he didn't read. He doesn't 509 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: own my books, he doesn't have my books. He doesn't 510 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 4: do any of it. But the point is is he 511 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: said to me, like eighty two, and it could have 512 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: been eighty three and a half. He just go He said, 513 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 4: you know, I'm interested, like I want to know now, 514 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 4: Like he's basically saying, I did you know, fifty years 515 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 4: of you on the planet was zero interests. 516 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: I kind of admit it. But now I'm in. 517 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: I'm eighty three and you're fifty, and I'd like to 518 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 4: know what's going on. 519 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: Tell me what's happening. 520 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: Tell me what's happening. And you're like, well, get a 521 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: rid of view, mirror, pops, because it's all there. Yeah, 522 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 4: And he was, by his own admittance sort of saying, 523 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: I know I didn't really care about you know what 524 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 4: he would say, I wouldn't care about The Man Show, 525 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: But he wouldn't know the name, or he wouldn't know 526 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: Crank Anchors or The Man Show or love Line or something. 527 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: He wouldn't know the name of it, so he couldn't say. 528 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 4: He'd just go like, I know, but now I want 529 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: to know. And that was like a weird moment where 530 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: like he was kind of admitting it, but it's also 531 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: it was you know, it was it was contrite, but 532 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: he was also saying, I admit. 533 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: I didn't really care about anything he ever did. 534 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: Right, you mentioned Jimmy, And I know people have this question. 535 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: I know I have this question or I get this 536 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: question about my friendships. How do you all remain friends 537 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: given what are now your deep political divides that have emerged, 538 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: not because you were looking to be political, but because 539 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: the times thrust the politics upon you. Well, stranger relationship, No, I. 540 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: Mean I think there's elements of well, if there's a 541 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: situation and a bunch of like minded people are going 542 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: to be there, then maybe I don't need to be there, 543 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: which is natural. Now I sent him a text he 544 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 4: hired my teenage daughter on to do some part time 545 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 4: stuff on his show, and you know, I just sent 546 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: him a text two days ago said you know, thanks, 547 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: Natalians really loving her job over there, and he. 548 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: Text me back like seven seconds later. 549 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: Great, when it goes to hi, or you know, I 550 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 4: haven't seen her here, but I will go find her 551 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: and blah blah blah. 552 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Now, not a thing hasn't impeded or hurt your relationship 553 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: at all. The politics, No, I would say, you discuss it. 554 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: No, relationships go. The thing that impedes relationships is you 555 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: do this, I do that. You're traveling here, I'm going there. 556 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: You know, he's getting a star on the Walk of Fame. 557 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm playing the Milwaukee Paps Theater that weekend and camp 558 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: you know. 559 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that. 560 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: But no, No, I think we're both pretty genuine about it. 561 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 4: And I look at him as one of the best 562 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: people I know and who's done a lot for me 563 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: and my family, and so I'll always be grateful. 564 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: And together you all, I mean you grew up together 565 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: in our eyes too, and in public. 566 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know, while politics seems to be 567 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: very volatile, it does not have to. 568 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: Be the end all and be all you thinkships. 569 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: Do you think the hardened ideology is fading away now 570 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: that Trump has come in and kind of he's such 571 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: a disruptor of everything at him and all convention? Uh huh? 572 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: Has it it all changed? The culture. 573 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 4: I think it's Biden being you know, the Audien Show 574 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: and just the promise of Biden took a lot of 575 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 4: the starch out of people's sales who were supporters, you know, 576 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 4: because yeah, it's kind of a it has to be 577 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: a two way street. 578 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: You have to go. 579 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: You got your guy as a disaster and our guy 580 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 4: is the best, you know. But now it's sort of 581 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: your guy's a disaster and our guy, you. 582 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: Know what I mean. 583 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: So it's like, well, where are we that? 584 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they don't have a counter argument right now. 585 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: They're looking for a leader. 586 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 4: Right and Biden, and between Biden and Kamala Harris, I 587 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: think even the folks that were formally pretty big supporters 588 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 4: have to kind of admit. 589 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about la in California, I know, 590 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: a constant theme for you in twenty thirteen. You really 591 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: outed Gavin Newsom on this show right here and got 592 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: him to really show the fraudulents of what he was 593 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: what he was representing too. How is that manifested in 594 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: the last few weeks, as you've seen this city collapse 595 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: under these anarchical ariots surrounding the ice roundups and the 596 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: fire coming off of the fires and the way that 597 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: was handled and continues to be handled. 598 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because Karen Bass mayor Karen Bass was 599 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 4: doing a presser on Ice and you know, Trump and 600 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: Trump and Ice and immigrants and where a town of immigrants, 601 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 4: And I just tweeted out, how are those building permits going? 602 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: Because I'm like, hey, bitch, I want building permits. I 603 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 4: don't want you talking about feelings. And I'm much we're 604 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 4: a community and a community of migrants and people. I 605 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: want some building permits. I want an aqueduct that doesn't 606 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 4: have a crack in it. I want I want a 607 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 4: water dropping plane that we don't have to get from 608 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: Canada last minute. 609 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: Like, I just want some basics, stuffy, and then we. 610 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 4: Can worry about the feelings of the immigrant community and 611 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: how we're all part of this interwoven aids quilt of immigrants. 612 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: Okay, great, where the building permits? Where the permits? 613 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: But they keep re electing these people, I know, I mean, 614 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: why why are Los Angelinos up for this kind of 615 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: punishment and they wanting it, desiring it? 616 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 4: They were up for this kind of punishment when it 617 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: didn't when there, when their house wasn't on fire. They 618 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: were up for it when it was about good vibes, 619 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: and you can elect the first you know, you go. 620 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: It's like, I'm up for having the first black lesbian 621 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: commercial pilot that American Airlines has ever hired. 622 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: While we're on the ground, as soon as we're. 623 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: Going on the side of the mountain, I'm regretting my decision. 624 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: And now we're kind of going into the side of 625 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: the mountains, so they may vote different. 626 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: So you think there's a ground swell underneath. 627 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 4: I literally burning the city to the ground has awoken 628 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: even the most right and leftist supporters. 629 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: Your twins just went off to college, Yes, how did 630 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: How has that changed your life, your your comedy, your 631 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: approach to all of them? I know what hours are 632 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: all gone by the way we kind of we're in 633 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: tandem on this, and it changes for me. It's changed 634 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: a lot at home. 635 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of weird, But I do have a 636 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 4: streak of my dad in me, which is like, all right, good, 637 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: I'll take care of you, but I got to go 638 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: out hit the road, I gotta do shows, I gotta 639 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 4: take care of this. I got to pay these bills. 640 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 4: And then when you come back, let's hang out. You 641 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean, And I'm that way, you know. 642 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: And I'm also kind of. 643 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh, but you're getting them internships, so you're still engaged. 644 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: I know I'm engaged. 645 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: They're not totally writing them off and giving them a Well, nobody. 646 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 4: Said I'm totally writing them off. I don't micro parent, 647 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 4: you know. I'm not a helicopter dad. 648 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: You know. It's like you're grown. 649 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: They want to hang out, we'll hang out, you know, 650 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 4: they got something else going on, We'll do it the 651 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 4: next night, you know. And you come to me, you 652 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 4: tell me what you want, and I will facilitate that. 653 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 4: I'm not going to hover over you and tell you 654 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 4: what to do. My daughter came to me and said, 655 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 4: can you talk to Uncle Jimmy about blah blah blah. 656 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, I'll do that, and then I did. 657 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 4: And now that's as we speak, that's where she is 658 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 4: happening today. 659 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. It was her initiative and something she wanted to do. 660 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, my son didn't ask. 661 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so he's not doing it. 662 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: He's working at the Wintersnitzel Van. 663 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: Well, nothing wrong with that. 664 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: I don't care at all. 665 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I learned you learn work work, work is 666 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: never a bad lesson. 667 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 2: Uh agreed. 668 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: Tell me about how it's changed comedy, your comedy. I 669 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: saw you at the Sony Theater with a great group 670 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: of comedians. For some reason, though Doctor True was the hope. 671 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: Why is Doctor Drew hosting comedy shows now? It's a 672 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: good point drag him out to do this now you 673 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: make him. It's a good point post your show for you. 674 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: It was a great lineup was Shane Gillison, You and 675 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: Drew and I can't remember the other guys, but they 676 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: were hilarious. It was a great lineup. 677 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, Doctor Drew me comedy. Look, I'm interested and have 678 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 4: a different perspective at my age now than I did 679 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 4: when I was thirty five, and I hope it'll be 680 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 4: different five years from now, even though I know it's 681 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 4: been more than five since I started. But you know, 682 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 4: I just I just go what's next? What can I 683 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 4: think about? What's different? 684 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? You do? 685 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: You don't do kids jokes or parenting jokes when you 686 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: don't have kids, and then you have kids, and then 687 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 4: you do parenting jokes. 688 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: You know, so there's that, you know, you do it joke. 689 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 4: You don't do divorce jokes when you're not divorced, and 690 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 4: then you get divorce, you do divorce jokes, you know, 691 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 4: or whatever whatever your story. 692 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 1: Reflection of your life at the moment. But it is more, 693 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: it seems less raunchy than it was. It's not the 694 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: Man Show Adam Carolla anymore. Well, not that you've gone, 695 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: You're not exactly. This is a Sunday Mass, but there 696 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: is an there's still an edge to it, but the 697 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: runch is not there. I didn't hear it anyway. 698 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 4: I you know, it varies a lot from act act 699 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 4: or week to week. 700 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 2: Some of the stuff is there. 701 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 4: I in general try not to get a laugh using 702 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: language or raunch. I try to go I would really 703 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 4: want to convey this idea and get the laugh from 704 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 4: the concept and not from the language that you used 705 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 4: to convey the concept. I want it to be sort 706 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 4: of all concept, minus the language or the scatological whatever, 707 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 4: because I think that's kind of a crutch, And so 708 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 4: I would My plan is to come up with something, 709 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 4: a notion, idea, and so of people go, oh yeah, right, yeah, 710 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: I've never done I never never thought of it that way, 711 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 4: you know. And I want to take an approach and 712 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: take an angle to it, and. 713 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: Where the conceige is funny. The thing itself is funny 714 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: the way it's constructed. 715 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 4: I guess if you were to try to distill what 716 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 4: I'm trying to do, is I want to take I 717 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 4: want to start with a premise, you know, I want 718 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: to go, you know, a new joke I'm doing, and 719 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 4: I'm not going to. 720 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 2: Bore you with the whole thing. 721 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 4: I go, I go, look, every time I turn on 722 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 4: the TV, now I see a commercial for. 723 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: A new body deodorant where it's an all over. 724 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 4: Body, every every part deodorant, and I'm like, I've been 725 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 4: watching TV for fifty years. It's always been underarm deodorant. 726 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 4: Why the whole why the whole body? When did this start? 727 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 4: It's five minutes old and it's ubiquitous now there's thirty 728 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 4: different brands. And every time every time I turn to you, 729 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: I see this and I go, what is this? What 730 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 4: necessitated this? Where's this coming from? And then I go, well, 731 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 4: you know you need deodorant where the sort of creases are. 732 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 4: And You're like, your underarm is five inches of crease 733 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: on the left and five inches and you don't need 734 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 4: it for the top of your thighs or your forehead. 735 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 4: You need it for the creases, you know, and your 736 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 4: arms are down and it gets funky. 737 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 2: And in the. 738 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 4: Past, we're all thin and we had about ten inches 739 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 4: of crease on us. 740 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: And now we got side. 741 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,959 Speaker 4: Boob and and front guntlin ask of lap and we 742 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 4: we're on big crease now. So we so now we 743 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 4: have seventy linear feet of crease where we used to 744 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 4: have ten inches of crease, and we stink because every 745 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 4: new forehead and chin crease have triple chin crease. Now 746 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 4: everything needs to be deodorized because there's one big crease 747 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 4: and so on and so forth. And people I. 748 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: Watch people, they go, yeah, that's true, it's commercials. Yeah, 749 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: that's true. I never saw why a why now you know? 750 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: And then you sort of explain it to him and 751 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 2: they go, you seem like not. 752 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 4: A little like, well right, everyone's fat now and everyone smells, 753 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 4: and then it starts to now we're going. Now we're 754 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 4: moving a direction. And for me, that's what I want 755 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 4: to do. I wanted to go huh yeah, and then 756 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 4: go why is that? Oh? Yeah, I bet that, you know. 757 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 4: That's the That's when I'm doing my job. That's the 758 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 4: job I'm doing. 759 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, my Royal Grande questionnaire. I ask 760 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: everybody this you already these are fast, don't think about these, 761 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: just answer them right all. Who's the person you most admire? 762 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 2: That is tough? I'll go Jimmy Kimmel. 763 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, whow why? 764 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 2: Uh? 765 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 4: He's just I've seen what he's done. I've seen how 766 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 4: what he does with other people. I see how he 767 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 4: takes care of others. Also, we're talking about him ten 768 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 4: minutes ago, so I wasn't thinking about Gandhi Gandhi or 769 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 4: the pope. 770 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: Or something, you know, but I was on my mind. 771 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 2: But he does, he's done so much. 772 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: Well, he's a close friend of yours, which is it? 773 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's nice to have friends who don't 774 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: agree with you on everything. Turns of those people, that's 775 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: what keeps your life rich and frankly keeps you on 776 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: your toes. Who's the person you most despise? 777 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: Kevin Smith? 778 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 4: Why I see jack me out a five hundred grand 779 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 4: for a TV show we're trying to do years ago 780 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 4: and then lied about it made me seem like an asshole? 781 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, Kevin Smith? Well, I thought, not hitler. 782 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: Kevin Well, Look Hitler. 783 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 4: That's uh, that's done many No, Kevin Smith, I mean, 784 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 4: and then. 785 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: Smith, what is your best feature? 786 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: Low self esteem? 787 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: Low self esteem? What's your worst feature? 788 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: Low self esteem? Yeah? 789 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: Pat, I set you right up. What do you know 790 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: that others don't know? I know how life works? How 791 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: does it work? 792 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean I I know patterns. I know the layout 793 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: of life. 794 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 4: I understand what motivates people on how they work and 795 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 4: how they think. 796 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people who are drifting 797 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: in the ether and they won't imagine it. 798 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 4: Well what I'm saying. It's a story I told way 799 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 4: too many times. 800 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: I keep it short. 801 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 4: But there was a time when I had a mini 802 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 4: pickup truck eighty four Nissan standard bed truck, and it's 803 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 4: about all I had to my name, and I didn't 804 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 4: have insurance on it or anything. And I was moving 805 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 4: into Hollywood with my girlfriend in a bad sort of 806 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 4: CD part of Hollywood, and there was no underground parking. 807 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 2: I was going to have to park on the street. 808 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 4: And so I had this pickup truck and it had 809 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 4: a Sony digital stereo in it, and it was a 810 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: mini pickup truck. And it was during the time when 811 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 4: cars were getting stolen all the time, and stereos were 812 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 4: getting stolen out of cars, and I didn't have any 813 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 4: insurance and any security in the parking. And I was 814 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 4: moving into Hollywood, and it was probably in the late eighties, 815 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 4: these mid late eighties, and it wasn't. 816 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: A good time. 817 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 4: And I knew that the car was going to get 818 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 4: stolen and the stereo was going to get stolen almost immediately, 819 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 4: and it was my livelihood, and I knew I was 820 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of trouble if this happened. But 821 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 4: I also knew I didn't have money to ensure the 822 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 4: car either. So I went down to the Pep Boys 823 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 4: Auto parts place. I bought a small can of brown 824 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 4: spray paint. The dashboard was brown in the car, and 825 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 4: I bought a toggle switch, a small toggle switch, and 826 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 4: about six foot of wire. 827 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 2: All in. 828 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 4: I was in about five bucks. You know, this is 829 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 4: the late eighties, you know, And I went took the 830 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 4: spray paint. I put a little piece of tape over 831 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 4: the digital readout for the stereo, and I spray painted 832 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 4: the stereo brown, same color as a dash I didn't 833 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 4: do a good job. 834 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 2: I desecrated it. 835 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 4: And then I went under the car, and I went 836 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 4: to the fuel pump in the rear the car, and 837 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 4: I just clipped one wire for the fuel pump, and 838 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: I braided in my wire into it, looped around, put 839 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 4: the toggle switch under my seat, and looped it back 840 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 4: so I could turn the fuel pump on and off, 841 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 4: and then I would turn the fuel pump off when 842 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 4: I pulled in. I had a brown stereo. No one 843 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 4: ever stole the stereo. Car was stolen twice. Found it 844 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 4: both times because it was out of gas, you know, 845 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 4: a few feet a block or two away. And I 846 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 4: knew who people were, and I knew how to prevent it, 847 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 4: and I knew that painting my stereo brown would prevent 848 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 4: it from being stolen. And everyone says why, and I said, 849 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 4: because they steal it to sell it, and you can't 850 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 4: sell a brown stereo. 851 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: And you can't read it. 852 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 4: And so I kept my stare. Put the little piece 853 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 4: of tape over the. 854 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 2: Digital read out. 855 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,479 Speaker 1: And you tear it off when. 856 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 2: I put it. 857 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: No, I I before I spray painted over that, but 858 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't realize you peeled it back with it. 859 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 2: I removed it. I should roll up. 860 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: Okay, what is the thing you most regret. Do you 861 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: have a regret? 862 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have, Like my stuff is more 863 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 4: sort of weirdly financial, Like you know a car that's 864 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 4: worth four million bucks and I sold it for too 865 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 4: cheap or whatever. 866 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: It is a piece of property you should have bought when 867 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: it was five hundred thousand dollars now eight million, right. 868 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that weird that kind of stuff in terms of 869 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 4: how you treated this person or how you acted with 870 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 4: that person. What the exception of a few bad days 871 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 4: is sprinkled in there, which and I do there's a 872 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 4: bad day. I do regret those bad days. And I've 873 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 4: had a few, and I had a few with my 874 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,399 Speaker 4: my family and that kind of stuff. 875 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 2: A couple of bad days. 876 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 4: But in general treated people fairly, took care of people 877 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 4: I should take care of, and don't really have a 878 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 4: lot of regrets. 879 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: That's good. 880 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 4: Although if you spoke to them they would Well, I'm 881 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 4: going to talk to them when we're will tell you 882 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 4: about all the regrets. 883 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: Tell me. The best piece of advice Adam Carolla ever 884 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 1: received was what. 885 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 2: If you drive the van, you will become the van driver. 886 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: Don't be the van driver. That's the and look where 887 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: you are. What happens when this is. 888 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 4: Over, Well, then we'll be debt. Well that what happens 889 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 4: when we go after life stuff? According to what I've 890 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 4: figured out, nothing, but if there's something that'll be good? 891 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: Are you open that there might be something? 892 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 4: I'm hoping that there might be something, And I'm fine. 893 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 4: And I've lived a life where I haven't hurt people, 894 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 4: so I've taken care of people. It's been a semi 895 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 4: righteous life. I've really don't. Haven't done things, even in 896 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: the shadows or in the quiet times, that I think 897 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 4: would get me into trouble with the almighty. So I 898 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 4: feel pretty pretty confident that I'll get into heaven even 899 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 4: though I don't think there's one. 900 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: Well, save me a spot when you will, Adam Core, 901 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: are you saving with my friend? You're going first anyway? 902 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 1: My friend? Great to see it. Okay, here's the hole. 903 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: What I learned from Adam is don't let anybody else 904 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 1: set expectations for you. Sometimes you have to knock around 905 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: and find your own path, and if you keep at it, 906 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: you'll find it. And you can't sell yourself short or settle. 907 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: Don't drive the van. I hope you'll come back to 908 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: a royo Grande soon. Why live a dry, constricted life 909 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 1: when if you fill it with good things, it can 910 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: flow into a broad, driving Arroyo Grande. I'm raiding an arroyo. 911 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe like this episode and thanks for 912 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: diving in. We'll see you next time. Arroyo Grande is 913 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts and is available on 914 00:47:47,480 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts, Constant 915 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 1: Spot and Spoke as perkistanis