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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna tell you the real big winner. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Championship Sunday because we have Bucky Brooks with us and Bucky,

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Speaker 2: how are you today, my friend?

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Speaker 3: How's everything?

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Speaker 4: I am great? I really enjoyed the championship game weekend.

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Speaker 4: I think is everything that you love about college football

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Speaker 4: all day came out in full force.

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Speaker 2: You know what, we gotta make a a kind of

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Speaker 2: like a little statement here before we delve into what's

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Speaker 2: going on here. All right, and I'm gonna say this,

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Speaker 2: after all the whining and crying about this twelve team

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Speaker 2: college playoffs, and that's what people were doing, and now

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Speaker 2: they're worrying about their jockeying for position. You know who's

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Speaker 2: gonna be sixth or seventh or eighth. You know, get

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Speaker 2: a life, Please get a life right now. First of all,

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Speaker 2: college football, and I don't care who argues with me

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Speaker 2: on this because I know I'm right. College football has

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Speaker 2: been more competitive this year than the NFL period. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the NFL has some dogs this year, you know what,

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Speaker 2: and I know it. There's about four good teams in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. I'm gonna get into those later on today.

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Speaker 2: Next you could talk about the seedings after the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: not now. They're gonna played one another. When the playoffs

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Speaker 2: are all over, then you could pick it apart, not now.

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Speaker 2: And that's for Boise State. People are going nuts over

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Speaker 2: Boise State because they got that first round by let

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Speaker 2: me just say this can clarify Boise State. They were

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Speaker 2: the third conference champion I believe to earn a bye

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Speaker 2: and that's Boise State. The the Broncos, they had a

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Speaker 2: twelve to one season. They beat number twenty EUNLV twenty

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Speaker 2: one to seven. That was on Friday in the Mountain

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Speaker 2: West Championship game. Boise He now gets a home and

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Speaker 2: home sweep by the Rebels twice. So the Broncos, get

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Speaker 2: that buy if they're gonna bypass Indiana for the number

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Speaker 2: eight spot, and they should after Ohio State and Tennessee

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Speaker 2: because of the quality of the wins.

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Speaker 3: Boise State has the two rank.

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Speaker 2: Wins over you, and of the because they only ranked twentieth,

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Speaker 2: plus they got two other wins over teams with at

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Speaker 2: least eight wins.

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Speaker 3: So they're stick it and there you go. And as

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Speaker 3: for the big.

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Speaker 2: Winner of all of this, I'm gonna tell you who

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Speaker 2: it is, and I know you're gonna agree with me.

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Speaker 2: Alabama nine and three record now in the line for

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Speaker 2: the final that large spot over Miami, Ole Miss and

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Speaker 2: South Carolina. Why because this committee likes logos. That's what

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Speaker 2: they like. They like college logos. Enough said, it's up

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Speaker 2: to you, mister Brooks.

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Speaker 4: I know I can't go to you.

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Speaker 5: I was with you until you said Alabama. I can't

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Speaker 5: go with you on that.

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Speaker 4: I can't put Alabama in over SMU, regardless of the

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Speaker 4: way to schedule and all that other stuff like THESMU

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Speaker 4: team that I saw last night against Clemson, I cannot

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Speaker 4: put Alabama over that. Alabama wasn't in a conference championship game.

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Speaker 4: Alabama had some egregious losses, they can't go. You get

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Speaker 4: three losses, they cannot go. So regardless of like the

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Speaker 4: SEC influence on the playoff and the committee, if Alabama

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Speaker 4: goes as a travesty is an egregious and it can't happen.

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Speaker 4: It can happen because if you put Alabama in over

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Speaker 4: a team that participated in the conference championship like an SMU,

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Speaker 4: it is eventually it just eliminates the importance of the

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Speaker 4: championship game. To me, I think you have to leave

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Speaker 4: Alabama on the sideline. They can find a place to

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Speaker 4: go play their bowl game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not that pleased that Alabama's going, but they

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Speaker 2: and their brand. But Alabama, in fact, they're three and

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Speaker 2: and they did lose to Syracuse that bumped out Miami

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Speaker 2: last week. Miami was just owning one against the same

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Speaker 2: than Old Miss did. Although Old Miss you know, they're

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Speaker 5: The eye test is one thing.

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Speaker 4: But here's here's why it would be unprecedented to drop SMU. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so SMU because you brought up Miami, because you have

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Speaker 4: Alabama comparing Miami. You can't put Miami in over SMU

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Speaker 4: when SMU was a better team within the conference, like,

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Speaker 4: because then what it does is it makes the conference

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Speaker 4: championships a sham. It makes the regular season basically a sham.

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Speaker 4: If you're not going to reward the best teams in

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Speaker 4: playing in the championship, then what are we doing? Like

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Speaker 4: because then everyone to just schedule cupcakes and we'll be

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Speaker 4: back to the way there used to be forty years ago,

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Speaker 4: when we just looked at guys and said, well, this

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Speaker 5: Good to me.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to set hardline precedents and parameters

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Speaker 4: right now. If not, we'll always have these debates and arguments.

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Speaker 4: But if it comes down to Alabama and Miami, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Alabama cane over Miami. But I can't put Miami over

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Speaker 4: SMU in any scenario. So to me, the debate comes

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Speaker 4: down to SMU and Alabama, and SMU should get it regardless.

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Speaker 3: To the resume, and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to argue for the sake of arguing

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Speaker 2: not to even play in a championship game. Teams that

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Speaker 2: those that are playing because when you're playing, you hurt yourself,

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Speaker 2: and SMU have hurt themselves yesterday. Right, I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: but we don't want that in Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we don't want that. Like Notre Dame is

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Speaker 4: a separate case, right, So Notre Dame is an independent.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame played all the games, swept all the games,

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Speaker 4: or whatever. They did everything that they possibly could do.

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Speaker 4: Alabama didn't. Alabama didn't reach their conference title game. They

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Speaker 4: weren't the best one of the two best teams in

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Speaker 4: Alabama has done in the past, but look that big

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Speaker 4: loss to Oklahoma. Uh, that hurt them. I saw them

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Speaker 4: I mean like one and a half loss that Aaric

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Speaker 4: Reach is right, Vanderbilt is better than they've been. Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: don't know how you can reward them with a playoff

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I would think that number eight SMU with

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Speaker 4: Because you lose a three point game in the championship,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna drop them all the way out.

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Speaker 2: Because they lost to Clemson, Okay, in the championship game

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 5: And Clemson.

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Speaker 4: Clemson is just like a bad brand. Like we're saying

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Speaker 3: Champions they are.

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Speaker 2: They are a good brand, and that's why he's not

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Speaker 2: think they're a twelve team. I think they sneak in

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Speaker 2: the A sec TO title. I think that gets them in. Now,

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Speaker 2: are there a better team than their SMU? Well, on

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Speaker 2: the field they wore I don't know. SMU had a

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Speaker 2: tremendous season. They really did, you know. And the funny

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Speaker 3: The better players. You know what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: It says how much money you spend, You spend money

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Speaker 2: to get players, you get a great team. That's what

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Speaker 2: it's all about. Look, the one thing that we know

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Speaker 2: for sure is Oregon. They'd a number one team right now,

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Speaker 2: don't think SMU is going to get in. That's just

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Speaker 2: that way. When they had a four team deal, there

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Speaker 3: That's just the way it goes.

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Speaker 4: I just think that if that's the case, if Alabama

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Speaker 4: gets in without having to go through the riggers, and

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Speaker 4: what are we doing? I think it up, says to Alpacoarte,

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Speaker 4: and if I'm a coach, why schedule anybody? Why not

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Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. So like, if the committee opts

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Speaker 4: automatic berth. They won the conference cham right, right, so

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Speaker 4: they have to have a higher line. But if we're

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Speaker 4: and I mean, what is it? And I know it's

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Speaker 2: I will say this, and I'm going to compare it,

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Speaker 2: pair it to the NT double, a college tournament, and

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Speaker 2: it's the term that we need to use here.

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Speaker 3: It's a tournament, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, not necessarily the best sixty four to sixty eight teams.

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Speaker 3: Is did they get in? What do I mean by that?

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Speaker 3: Many a time?

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Speaker 2: And a smaller conference In the basketball deal, you could

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Speaker 2: team with a losing record in the conference tournament that

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Speaker 2: wins that tournament goes to the NT double. A's and

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Speaker 2: it's happened before. I've seen it happen before in smaller conferences,

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Speaker 2: and so right now, let's just remember it's a tournament

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Speaker 2: and not necessarily the best teams get in. There is

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Speaker 2: Indiana the top twelve teams in the country. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, who have they beaten? But Indiana's going to

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Speaker 2: get in. I'm sure they're going to get in. You know,

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Speaker 2: if truth be known, SMU should probably get in over Indiana,

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Speaker 2: right they should?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean with both of those teams, Like the

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Speaker 4: teams we're talking about, like we're talking about teams they

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Speaker 4: have like one loss, maybe two loss.

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Speaker 5: When you get to three losses.

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Speaker 4: Like a three loss deal, like unless you're one of

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Speaker 4: those Cinderella teams. Like so you talk about the NCAA tournament,

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Speaker 4: a Cinderella team that gets hot and wins the tournament. Cool,

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Speaker 4: But three losses as just an at large without any

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Speaker 4: without anything, like where they underachieve based on what they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like all that matters. I mean it

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Speaker 5: It'd be interesting to see.

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Speaker 4: The good thing is, whenever they picked the twelve teams,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited, you know. I honestly, I have no money

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: Because of the way the defense reacted to the pass

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Speaker 2: Okay, when we got the fourteen, the top four teams

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Speaker 2: Understand how Arizona State came from nowhere. No one picked

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Speaker 4: Now we'll see them on a major state. Big twelve

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Speaker 3: You know. It's funny.

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Speaker 5: It took the.

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Speaker 3: They hung with them.

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Speaker 2: Have to get something off my chest, if you don't mind,

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Speaker 2: he's on TV, and I say, shame on you. I

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Speaker 2: don't know the guy, but I say, shame on you,

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Speaker 2: Pull fine Bound.

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Speaker 3: What did he do?

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Speaker 2: He's calling for USC to fire the football coach Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 2: All right, and look, if that's what you get paid

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Speaker 2: to do, fine, But I think it's weak. I think

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Speaker 2: it's really weak media people calling for firings. I think

446
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Speaker 2: it's just playing weak because it tells me you're unprepared,

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Speaker 2: and it's bullying.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I have talked over the years about coaches who may

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Speaker 2: get fired, but I'm not sit behind a microphone that's

451
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Speaker 2: not yelling fire this guy, because I know what it's

452
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Speaker 2: like to be fired. I don't want to see anybody fired.

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Speaker 2: It's the worst thing in the freaking world. And for

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Speaker 2: someone to get paid before a national audience behind the

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Speaker 2: microphone and say, hey us say fire Lincoln Riley, that's

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Speaker 2: shame on you. That's all I gotta say. If you

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Speaker 2: agree with me, I hope you do because I thought

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Speaker 2: it was wrong. And look, Lincoln Riley may leave, he

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Speaker 2: may that fired, that's that's his deal. But I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to say fire the guy. I just it's wrong.

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Speaker 2: I just my stomach was churning when he said that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I feel you on that, Like mediu member

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be calling on gas to be fired. However, I

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Speaker 4: will say that Lincoln Rally certainly has not done a

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Speaker 4: good job, and considering living in LA and knowing kind

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Speaker 4: of lil of the land, there's no reason why their

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Speaker 4: program should be what their program is. H He'll get

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Speaker 4: plenty of opportunities to change it. I think it's so

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Speaker 4: cost prohibitive to move on from him that look, it's

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Speaker 4: unlikely that they would do it. But yeah, fine, bomb

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Speaker 4: has he has to chill out, he has to fight down.

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Speaker 3: Some of that he can relax. Relax, Fine Bomb, da yougo?

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Speaker 3: All right? He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman.

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Speaker 2: Get him on X at Bucky Brooks or at Andy

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Speaker 2: Furman episode our number three be goot, Mike Carmen, He's

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Speaker 2: a swollen Dome. Get him at Swollen Dome or Betty

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Speaker 2: Yet you gotta comment, pull fine baumb you want to

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Speaker 2: call defend yourself?

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Speaker 3: That's okay.

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Speaker 2: At eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine, we gotta

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Speaker 2: ask Bucky in this our bottom Barrel Betting hour number two,

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Speaker 2: and is mentioned the famous Swollen Dome would join us

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon in our number three. But one coach, one

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Speaker 2: coach of all is about risk and reward.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you who he is next.

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Speaker 2: All right now for one NFL quarterback. The clock is

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Speaker 2: tit tit ticking. Okay, he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman.

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Now, let's get into this for a second.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of college football, I got to talk about my

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Speaker 2: buddies alma mater, the University of North Carolina. Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: interested in the North Carolina football job?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? Come on?

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Speaker 2: The tar Heels dumped the seventy three year old Mac Brown,

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Speaker 2: now Belichick seventy two. What's the story now? Is Belichick

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Speaker 2: and a gun there? What's you know?

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Speaker 3: The inside out? Don't get buck? What's happening?

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Speaker 2: Mean?

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Speaker 4: I wish I knew the inside out? But now look,

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Speaker 4: it's a real consideration.

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Speaker 5: They interviewed him.

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Speaker 4: They talked to him. There's been reporced a possibly he

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Speaker 4: was trying to have a successor in place by naming

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Speaker 4: his son Steven as the head coach in waiting. But

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Speaker 4: you know, know like this, this search can go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why is because when you look at

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Speaker 4: the college game, they're a couple hot names, but there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of whole hum when it comes to who's

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Speaker 4: going to be available. And you know, John Somerro was

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Speaker 4: the hot name from Tulane, but he's going to have

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Speaker 4: his fair share.

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Speaker 5: Of jobs, and so who knows.

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Speaker 4: I think is the job of the ad bubble cunning

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Speaker 4: him and all of the board to try and explore

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Speaker 4: every possibility to give yourself a chance to sustain success

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Speaker 4: or build success in North Carolina with football program.

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Speaker 2: You know, Belichick is like a breath behind Don Shula

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Speaker 2: for the old time win record in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: You would think that if he's going to coach again,

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Speaker 2: he'd probably want to go back to the NFL to

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Speaker 2: try to break that regular Maybe it's meaningless to him,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I would think that he'd want

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Speaker 2: to get that record.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, but maybe he feels like after going through the

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Speaker 4: process last year and being shut out maybe people, he

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Speaker 4: feels that people don't respect him as much as they

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Speaker 4: can could because of his age and those things like

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Speaker 4: there are a lot of people that, look, man, people

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Speaker 4: fall into the narratives, right. There are people that talked

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Speaker 4: about like, oh, well he can't win without Tom Brady, etc.

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Speaker 5: Etc. But I don't think you win as many games

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Speaker 5: as he's won.

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Speaker 4: Without being able to understand how to build a program

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Speaker 4: and sustain a program in those things. And for him,

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Speaker 4: I think it's the right opportunity in terms of like

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Speaker 4: the right control to build the kind of program that

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Speaker 4: you want to build. In college, you have that kind

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Speaker 4: of control. Yeah, you answered to the ad, but it's

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Speaker 4: a different deal because you're the king of the castle.

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Speaker 4: And at the college at the collegiate level, not so much.

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Speaker 4: At the pro level, not many teams are willing to

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Speaker 4: seed that kind of power to allow a coach to

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Speaker 4: have everything right.

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Speaker 2: College level, you build your own roster, that's you basically

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Speaker 2: do you recruit, you get the nil money, you pay them,

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Speaker 2: and there you go. You know, And speaking of coaches,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about I said risk and rewards, there's none

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Speaker 2: better right now than Dan Campbell. I mean I watched

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Speaker 2: that game on Thursday night. Was like fourth and like

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Speaker 2: a credit card, that's how far it was. Fourth and

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Speaker 2: an inch on the green Bay twenty twenty one yard

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Speaker 2: line with about forty seconds left in the game. The

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Speaker 2: score was tight at thirty one. What did Campbell say,

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Speaker 2: We're going for it, We're going for it.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy got a pair of onions, that's

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Speaker 2: what he's got.

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Speaker 3: And they went for it.

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Speaker 2: And what David Montgomery, the kid from Cincinnati, I love him. Okay,

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Speaker 2: seven yards touchdown conversion, they walk off Jake Bates. It's

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Speaker 2: the thirty five yard field goal, and what do you know,

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Speaker 2: green Bay goes down, Detroit wins. I mean, you gotta

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Speaker 2: love this guy, Dan Campbell. If you're a player, you

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Speaker 2: gotta you just run through a wall for this guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what it does for the players, I gotta

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Speaker 2: believe is like, hey, coach is showing confidence in us.

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Speaker 3: He wants to go for it. That's wonderful. Others don't.

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Speaker 4: They just don't well no, I mean he has a

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Speaker 4: tremendous fount of confidence in his players, and being a

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Speaker 4: former player, he certainly has earned their initial respect and

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Speaker 4: then he's shown that, you know, like he can win.

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Speaker 4: And once you show your team that you have the

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Speaker 4: knowledge and the program that produced the success, they're willing

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Speaker 4: to buy in. And so they're going to continue to

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Speaker 4: buy into it. The only thing that could trip the

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Speaker 4: Detroit lines up man the war of attrition. They're beginning

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Speaker 4: to have so many injuries that is eventually going to

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Speaker 4: impact the way that they have to play, particularly on defense,

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Speaker 4: and so that's something to keep an eye on. They're

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Speaker 4: playing well, they want a lot, but they got to

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Speaker 4: stay hot. The Philadelphia Eagles are coming and if it

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Speaker 4: comes down to home field, the thought of them having

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Speaker 4: to go to Philadelphia is something that look not to

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Speaker 4: scare them, but it should make them stay on. They

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Speaker 4: up and up because if they get home field, they're

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Speaker 4: a different animal when they play in Ford Field and

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Speaker 4: when they have to go on the road.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna ask you like a real stupid question,

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Speaker 2: and you could laugh at me if you want to,

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Speaker 2: but I look at the coaches in and around the

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Speaker 2: National Football League just simply could you tell me what

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Speaker 2: makes a good coach?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 2: Is Dan Campbell head and shoulders above others. Why is

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Speaker 2: Andy Read a better coach? I mean the easy answer

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Speaker 2: is personnel, for sure, but there's got to be a

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Speaker 2: better reason. There's got to be something behind, you know,

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Speaker 2: behind the curtain. What makes a real good coach?

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Speaker 4: One I would say authenticity. Like you can be a

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Speaker 4: coach that comes in different packaging.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: You can be the hard nos grizzled coach, you can

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Speaker 4: be the fun loving coach. You can be a little

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Speaker 4: bit of both. But what you have to be is

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Speaker 4: consistent and authentic. The players have to know that every

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Speaker 4: day you show up you can be the same guy.

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Speaker 4: You can't be a hard nose one day fun loving

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Speaker 4: the next like you have to continue to be the same. Secondly,

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Speaker 4: you've got to have a level of competence in terms

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Speaker 4: of your knowledge of job, your knowledge of gaming, your knowledge.

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Speaker 5: Of building a team that can win.

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Speaker 4: They'll see that, they'll test that because ultimately, the job

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Speaker 4: of the head coach is to solve problems. So when

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Speaker 4: it gets to being difficult and challenging, all odds turn

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Speaker 4: to the coach for how you're going to handle this situation?

631
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Speaker 4: How are you going to help us get through this?

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Speaker 4: Give us the answers to help us get over the top,

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Speaker 4: and then the other thing will be regardless of your

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Speaker 4: intelligence and your acumen, can you hire a competent staff.

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Speaker 5: Can you hire a staff full of.

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Speaker 4: Lieutenants that can kind of carry out your mission, that

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Speaker 4: can continue to echo the same.

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Speaker 5: Words in those things to do it?

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Speaker 4: And so as much as we like to talk about

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Speaker 4: head coaches being exes and those guys and tacticians and

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Speaker 4: schemers and hey, this guy's gonna be a great head

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Speaker 4: coach because he's a great play caller, it extends beyond that.

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Speaker 4: It is about really being the quote unquote leader of men,

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Speaker 4: but really being a great leader, because a great leader

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Speaker 4: can figure out the other stuff. But you can't be

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Speaker 4: a X and those guys without leadership skills and become

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Speaker 4: a great winner.

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Speaker 5: It just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: And I think another trade, and maybe I'm mistaken on.

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Speaker 2: This, I think you have to be a good delegator

651
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Speaker 2: because I think if a coach wants to do everything,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna fail. And I see that in Cincinnati, Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor wants to do it all. He wants to call

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Speaker 2: the plays, he wants to do this. He's got his

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Speaker 2: nose and everything. And I see someone like Jim Hobbaugh,

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Speaker 2: and I've seen some of these things and stories on him.

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Speaker 2: He'll go into a meeting room and say, look at

658
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: the film and say, this guy is not blocking over

659
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: here to take care of that. He just tells his

660
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: people to do it. And I think that's what a

661
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: good leader does. I think you delegate.

662
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to be careful with the

663
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: delegation though, And the only reason I'll say you have

664
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: to be careful with the delegation is because no one

665
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: loves it as much as you love it. No one

666
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: also understands the vision as much as you do unless

667
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: you consistently tell them what that vision is for the

668
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: program and then hold them accountable to meeting that vision.

669
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Speaker 4: So there is some delegation that needs to go on,

670
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: but that delegation.

671
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 5: Has to be earned.

672
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: Meaning I'm gonna give you these responsibilities to do, and

673
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: if you do them, then I give you more responsibilities

674
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: and I'll back up. But if I give them to

675
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: me and you don't do it to my liking, well,

676
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: now you're never going to have a say because you

677
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: haven't done the work that you need to do to

678
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: earn my trust to do that. So it's a give

679
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: and take when it comes to being able to delegate

680
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: to people.

681
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into this game, talk about delegating

682
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: to about coaching. The Falcons are playing of the likings.

683
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: I guess the big headline for media people is to

684
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: return to Kirk Cousins because it's his former team. But

685
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: right now, I said, the clock is ticking from one

686
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: quarterback and he's the quarterback was right now the Atlanta offense,

687
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: they haven't gotten more than seventeen points in the last

688
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: three successive defeats against teams with really strong defenses. So

689
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: is it time for Michael Pennick Junior to be the quarterback?

690
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: Right now?

691
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: Last week Cousins had four interceptions against the Charges. Is

692
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: it time for Kurt? And I love kurk Cousins. I

693
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: saw him on hard Knocks. I fell in love with

694
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: the guy, I really did. But it's a time for

695
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins to move aside and Michael Pennix Junior get

696
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: on the center.

697
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: We're gonna make this move in the middle of a

698
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: playoff run. Think we get five games left and we'll say, hey,

699
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: you know what we're gonna do let's just throw the

700
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: rookie in there when it's the most intense and competitive.

701
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: If this was going to be in play, this is

702
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: something that the Atlanta Falcons have to start thinking about

703
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: doing Earlier in the year. They got to start getting

704
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: Michael Pennick ready to play for the moment, barring an injury.

705
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: But to think that we're going to voluntarily just drop

706
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: him in to an intensely competitive race and expect him

707
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: to make the offense better.

708
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 5: Man, that's a lot on.

709
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: A player who has a play since the preseason, and

710
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: even when he played in the preseason, he played a

711
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 4: couple series.

712
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 5: I think they have the state, of course.

713
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: I think the plan was always to have Michael Pennix

714
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: into as a backup this year, and then maybe next

715
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: year or the year after he would assume control of

716
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: the offense. I just think they'd ride it out with

717
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: Kirk Cuvlins.

718
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: I knew you'd have the answer. I knew you would.

719
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

720
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: As far as the Vikings are concerned, they got a

721
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: five game winning streak. They got Justin Jefferson. He became

722
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: the fourth player to have a post one thousand receiving

723
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: yards in each of his first five seasons. I think

724
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: it's a Vikings win today, and I'm going to move

725
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: over here because this game basically.

726
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: Doesn't deserve my breath.

727
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: The Saints at the Giants, okay, I think they're playing

728
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: for the coach's job, maybe the general manager's job, and

729
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: the more Sakuon Barkley plays hard and does what he's doing,

730
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: the worse it is for the coaching staff, at least

731
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: for the general manager for the Giants, because honestly, I mean,

732
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't think they even thought Saquon Barkley would be

733
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: doing what he's doing right now. But he's turned the

734
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: Eagles around and the Giants right now of two and ten,

735
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: they're terrible and the Saints aren't much better. One of

736
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: those guys, I mean, why would you go, why would

737
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: you watch this game?

738
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: Really?

739
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: It's wasted time. I mean, I mean you and your

740
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: guy Dex still large. He's heard he's not playing.

741
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he has heard.

742
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 4: He dislocated his elbows, so he's done for the year.

743
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: Went on, I R like the last week.

744
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

745
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: No, this is a tough game. It's tough for both teams.

746
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: Both teams are rebuilding, no chance of making the playoffs

747
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: in those things, and so you have to play it out.

748
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: You're playing for quote unquote pride, as they would like.

749
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: To say in the locker room meeting rooms.

750
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: But every play on the field has to know that

751
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: if there's someone that comes in, if there's a newbie,

752
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: new coach, new general manager, the first thing you can

753
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 4: do is they gonna pop into tape from the end

754
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: of the year and they're gonna make decisions based on

755
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: your performance. So regardless of the scoreboard, regardless of what

756
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: your role is, you better play it hard because you're

757
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: going to be evaluated and there can be consequences that

758
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: come with the evaluation.

759
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: Right you're playing for their job, That's what you're basically doing.

760
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: Raiders are playing at the Buccaneers today and good for

761
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: Aid and o'connley finally got a job. He's like the guy,

762
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: he's the man now he's the quarterback for the Raiders.

763
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: Right now. They lead the league in turnovers. That's not

764
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: a good thing.

765
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, their rookie running back Bucky Irving, had his

766
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: best day list week, rush for one hundred and fifty

767
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: two in a touchdown twenty five carries, got hurt a

768
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: little bit at the end of that game. But right now,

769
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield is doing it all right now for Tampa.

770
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: I think Tampa's going to win this game. Rader is

771
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: a you know, I'm not saying that players give up

772
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: at the end of the season when the team is losing,

773
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: when they know they're not playing for anything, because you

774
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: hit it on the head, they're playing for their game

775
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: on film so people could see them. They get a

776
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: job somewhere else in the college game, they go into

777
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: the portal in the pro game, I mean, they're looking

778
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: for a deal.

779
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: Maybe they get traded, they drop, whatever it may be.

780
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: But the point is, right now, I don't think anybody's

781
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: going to dump on them because the team is not

782
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: doing well.

783
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: I think you still play hard. Maybe I'm wrong.

784
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen guys dogging it down the stretch

785
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: or not wanting to play, but I think more often

786
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: than not, they're still playing hard.

787
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: Mean, that goes a long way, and it appeals to

788
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: the coach's ability to connect, you know, because you got

789
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: to connect with your team to get them to live

790
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: up to and play up to your standards. And that

791
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 4: requires a steady conversation to understand what makes them tick.

792
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: That requires being consistent in your messaging in terms of

793
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 4: how you want to see the team play. All of

794
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 4: that stuff matters. And look the good coach is able

795
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: to do in regards to the record. They they don't change,

796
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: they don't deviate from the message. They continue to ask

797
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: in demand the same things, whether they're winning or lose.

798
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: All right, last but not, Lisa, squeeze this one in here.

799
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: The Panthers are at the Eagles today. Eagles are ten

800
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: and two, Panthers three or nine. However, Bryce Young two

801
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: and three in his last five games as Panthers quarterback.

802
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: He's getting the system, he's learning a little bit. But

803
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: I will tell you this much. I know the Eagles

804
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: are going to win. I'll tell you why. There's a

805
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: guy in my state, Kentucky, where I live, I'm better,

806
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: is backing the Eagles to defeat the Carolina Panthers today

807
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: with a three point one million dollar wager, one of

808
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 2: the largest bets ever reported on an NFL regular season game.

809
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: All right, three point one that's good enough for me.

810
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: If he's spend three point one million for the Eagles

811
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 2: to win, Eagles is gonna win this game.

812
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: That's it.

813
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: I do not know.

814
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: Andy Furrman was the one that plays the bet, So

815
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: it came from y'all. Okay, I was wonting because I

816
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: saw the things. The word three million dollars. Man, that's it.

817
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 4: Pour all the retirement savings into.

818
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: It and put my house on it.

819
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 5: Eagles are hot, just do it.

820
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, look the Eagles right now the number

821
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: one defense in the NFL.

822
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: And I just think the Egles are a great team.

823
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: But this the bet, the bet is the reason why

824
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: you want to watch the game, because I think that

825
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: if this guy loses, what's the story tomorrow. I mean,

826
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: he'd be living on the street. Who knows. We'll see

827
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: what happens.

828
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: You get three point one to bet, you'd probably not

829
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: gonna go in the street if you lose.

830
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: It's the only going to win four hundred thousand if

831
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: he wins, you know, So I don't know he's.

832
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: Better off for an ira A.

833
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: We move on Bucky brooks Andy Furman, Fox Football Sunday

834
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: and Fox Sports Radio, and he is the answer man.

835
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: He really is. As Bucky It's next.

836
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

837
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: Bucky right around the corner. It's about ten minutes before

838
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy

839
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 2: Furhan and we are Fox Football Sunday and Fox Bort's

840
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 2: ready on his time for ask buckets. Let's get it done,

841
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: all right, Here we go, Here we go, all right.

842
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: First question, Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred.

843
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 3: He's floating around the idea of the Golden at bat rule.

844
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: What is that?

845
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: This is something that he copied from the Savannah Bananas,

846
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: the baseball version of the Harlem Globetrotters. It would allow

847
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: teams to pinch hit any hitter at any time of

848
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: the game.

849
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: All Right.

850
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: He threw it out there, and there was a lot

851
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: of negativity. So now we're saying, no, I really didn't

852
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: throw it out. They just wanted No. He's full of it,

853
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: because if everybody wanted to do it and there was

854
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: a positivity on the results, he would have said, yeah,

855
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: we're doing it, and he would have snuck it in.

856
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 2: It would have been in minor league baseball this year

857
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: and they would have got it done. But I want

858
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: to know your opinion of the Golden at bat rule.

859
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not a fan of it just because

860
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: it's so unorthodox, right, such a non traditional thing.

861
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 5: I understand it.

862
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: I mean the appeal because Savannah bananas do kind of

863
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: keep you entertained. But no, my baseball, I still want

864
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: some purity to it. I like the changes that were made,

865
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: like the pitch clock has helped getting rid of this shift.

866
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: Those things have help. But Dad, that's a little much.

867
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: I agree.

868
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't like the runner at second base and the

869
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: extra innings. I think that's ridiculous. But we move on.

870
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: We'll wait for the baseball season for that.

871
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 3: Let's go to Jamis Winston.

872
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: Now. Jamis Winston the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. He

873
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: set a record with four hundred and ninety seven passing

874
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: yards and Monday's forty one to thirty two loss to.

875
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos.

876
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: Despite also throwing four touchdown passes, it was his two

877
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: interceptions return for touchdowns and three picks overall that it

878
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: stuck with him after the game.

879
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: This is what he said quote, I know I'm better

880
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: than this.

881
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: This is what he said in the postgame, like I'm

882
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: just praying for the the Lord to deliver me from

883
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: pick sixes. Okay, have you had really have you ever

884
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: heard of anything like this before? I know I'm better

885
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: than this. I'm praying for the Lord to deliver me

886
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: from pick sixes. I mean, really, come on, I.

887
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: Mean it's a lot. But like he is very devloped

888
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: in this faith and it comes out in every thing.

889
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: But Jamis is going to fall into uh, this quirkiness,

890
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 4: this coininess, that is part of his being. But yeah,

891
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: hopefully if you look at him like a wonderful performance,

892
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: but he does turn the ball over a lot. He

893
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 4: does need some help to rid him of the pick

894
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: sixes that ailed him.

895
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: All right, Now, let's go to the NFL Big three,

896
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: the Big three, the Detroit Lions, Philadelphia Eagles, and the

897
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Who is number four, Bucket Brooks or if not,

898
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: maybe that's not your pick three?

899
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: Let it know.

900
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 5: Oh no, we go back the big.

901
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: Lions Eagles, but Lions, Eagles, Bills.

902
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: Lions Eagles, Bills. Well that it has to be the Chiefs.

903
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: The Chiefs said before.

904
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: I don't like them. They're playing They're playing on a tightrope.

905
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: They're playing put in front of him.

906
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: The Minnesota Vikings also are playing on the tight rope.

907
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens are inconsistent.

908
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: But you're going with that? Said the defending champs that's

909
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: the only reason.

910
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: Right. Oh well, no, I mean like they're there. They're winning.

911
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: I mean they continue to win. I can't knock them

912
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 4: out until they lose. They win, they continue to win

913
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: against all odds.

914
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're putting them in the top three. What

915
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: about the Packers? Where do the Packers go?

916
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: No, the Packers haven't dropp down a little bit. Packers

917
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: have to be behind the vikings. The stealers are knocking

918
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: on the door of the group. The stillers deserve some

919
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: love to be in that conversation.

920
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: All right, I hear you.

921
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, speaking of three, the NFL draft has the Jaguars, Raiders,

922
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: and Giants picking of that order. Will we see two

923
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 2: Colorado players in the top three? Be it Travis Hunter

924
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 2: and Shadua Sanders?

925
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 6: Uh?

926
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, two players in the top three?

927
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think by the end of it, we'll see

928
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: two guys come off the board. And I would think

929
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: the wide receiver comes off the board before the quarterback.

930
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: Sounds great.

931
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: I was gonna throw this out with you if we

932
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: have time, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahome.

933
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 4: What do you like, Lamar Jackson?

934
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 3: All right, there we go, stay with us, all right?

935
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: One team's success could bring a big loss that's coming

936
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: right up.

937
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: Good morning. This is Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports.

938
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Speaker 5: Ready.

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Speaker 3: He is Bucky Brooks.

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946
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Speaker 2: Why because it's all about Bucky Brooks NFL dot Com.

947
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 2: He writes for them every single week, as he does

948
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: so many other things. But I learned to turn to

949
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: NFL dot Com to see Bucky Brooks the analysts for

950
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: NFL dot Com and this week a rather interesting story

951
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: about one team that we should not overlook. Now you

952
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: talk about the obvious, and I should have realized this

953
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: when I asked you this, and asked Bucky, because you

954
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: love the Chiefs and then they really, as you say

955
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: squarely in the mixes back to back reigning champs, overwhelming dominance.

956
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: They are still at eleven and one overall. But you

957
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: talk about the Bills, you talk about the Ravens, right,

958
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: in the discussion of the AFC, and you talk about

959
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: the NFC. You got the Lions, you got the Eagles,

960
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: and they're gonna be perhaps they're on championship Sunday, but

961
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: you say, do not, do not overlook the Minnesota Vikings,

962
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: and do not overlook the Pittsburgh Steelers. And let's talk

963
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: about the Pittsburgh Steelers where nine to three. Why do

964
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 2: you say they are a possibility to win a championship

965
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: when obviously I think they're offensively challenged, so to speak.

966
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: I think they really are.

967
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: I would say, like, look, when you Pittsburgh steels in

968
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: your challenge like like they are, it's about stylistic play

969
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: and why you're able to do it and how are

970
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: you able to do it? And so the one thing

971
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: that you outlined in the pieces you talk about the

972
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 4: Steelers can win because one, they have a championship level

973
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 4: d defense, right, they lead the league when it comes

974
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: to like, they're second in the league in turnover March

975
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 4: would lead the league in turnovers for so that means

976
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: they're going to create extra possessions. They're number one on

977
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: offense in time of possession. So not only do they

978
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: take the ball away from you, but they are proven

979
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: to keep the ball, they retain possession, averaging over thirty

980
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: two minutes of offense. And so the running game, the

981
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 4: defense that already is problematic, Well, now you add Russell

982
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: Wilson to the mix. Pedigree, super Bowl champion, nine time

983
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 4: Pro Bowler, winning season after win the season when he's

984
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: been the starting quarterback in those high leverage moments where

985
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: the gang is hanging in the balance. Russell Woodson's been

986
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 4: there for so long, so he isn't going to be Look,

987
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: he's not gonna shrink under the pressure of the postseason.

988
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 4: And for Mike Tomlin, he needed a quarterback that would

989
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: give him every opportunity to do that, someone that would

990
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 4: step into the light as opposed to running from the spotlight.

991
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: When you get into the.

992
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 3: Postseason, well, when you got TJ.

993
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: Watt and Cam Haywod on the defensive side of the football,

994
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean you got something cooking over there. And you know,

995
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlins a heck of a defensive coach, and the

996
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: Steelers are basically a defensive minded team, a defensive minded organization.

997
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, and I think that many ball

998
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: clubs don't realize this, especially teams that make the playoffs

999
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: for the very first time getting into the playoffs. A.

1000
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: The weather's gonna be bad if you don't playing into us, obviously,

1001
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: but the weather's gonna be cold.

1002
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be bad. So what do you gotta do.

1003
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: You gotta have a ball control team. You can't pass

1004
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: in that win and snow and bad weather. You got

1005
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: to run the football. And you mentioned this, and it's true.

1006
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: Other coaches don't even realize this. Pittsburgh is a ball

1007
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: control offense and you got to run on the head.

1008
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: So if they're playing tough defense and the control the

1009
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: ball offense, they got a shot to go deep in

1010
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1011
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they can play the game on their terms.

1012
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: It's very much like I mean, were you in Big

1013
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: ten country, Just imagine like playing Wisconsin basketball. Right, No

1014
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 4: matter how much you want to fast break and do it,

1015
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: if they are committed to walking the ball up, you

1016
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 4: never can get the game on your terms.

1017
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 5: You can never get it to be.

1018
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: In a fast break game where you have more possessions,

1019
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: and so in a game where you're playing limited possessions,

1020
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: it ensures that the game is always going to be

1021
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: tight unless you turn it over and they haven't turned

1022
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: it over. That puts a lot of pressure on the

1023
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 4: opponent to have to perform in the fourth quarter, and

1024
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 4: the Stellers with their defense, they can close it out.

1025
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: They have pass rushes in those things. To me, this

1026
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: is one of the best opportunities that they have to

1027
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: kind of sneak into not only the postseason, but to

1028
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: put themselves in a position where they kind of back

1029
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: door their way into the super Bowl.

1030
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: No one saw that coming in going into the season.

1031
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: Everybody I need.

1032
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: Look, I'm not trying to kind of pick on.

1033
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: You, but you did say that Cleveland Browns are a

1034
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: team that basically could go to the Super Bowl. So

1035
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: they win the division, they're not even going to finish

1036
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: five hundred.

1037
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: They not.

1038
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: I did it, but I also said I also said

1039
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: that Russell Wilson would have an opportunity game to go

1040
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 4: a jacket by being in Pittsburgh.

1041
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 5: So I'm fifty to fifty.

1042
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: Right, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, it's kind

1043
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: of be better that that guy in Kentucky. But three

1044
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: point one million dollars on the Eagles, I mean, I

1045
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: wonder what that guy's doing today.

1046
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens here. But I did mention this.

1047
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean, with all of success that the Steelers are having,

1048
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 2: and they may end up having even more, I would say, Look,

1049
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith is basically the offensive coordinator. The success is

1050
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: going to create a big loss. What do I mean

1051
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: by that? Authur Smith could have got a head coaching

1052
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: job and they lose Arthur Smith. So the success will

1053
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: become a loss. Right, that's gonna happen.

1054
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 5: To bit Maybe I don't know.

1055
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if it happens so quickly for Arthur.

1056
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: And I think Arthur's done a tremendous job. And you

1057
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 4: look back at the Atlanta Falcons situation. Imagine what Arthur

1058
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: could do if he had had a quarterback. You know,

1059
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 4: he never had a quarterback that could kind of bring

1060
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: some of his ex'es and o's to life. They ran

1061
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 4: the football successfully in Atlanta there. He certainly has learned,

1062
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 4: because I think everyone who works with the Stellers and

1063
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 4: goes elsewhere they leave with that Stellers blueprint in mind,

1064
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 4: and they want to try and replicate that model of

1065
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: consistency in those things. Look, he's a good candidate and

1066
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: he should have an opportunity. I don't know if it

1067
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: happen in Discca, but you never know. They certainly have

1068
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: done a really good job and surprising people, and that

1069
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: always gives you a chance.

1070
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of the Steelers, they're hosting the Cleveland Browns

1071
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: today and back in week number twelve, believe it or not,

1072
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, the Steelers lost twenty four to nineteen. It's amazing,

1073
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: but the reason I think one of the reasons for

1074
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: that loss was Miles Garrett. Because the left tackle of

1075
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers, Dan Moore Junior, couldn't control Miles Garrett. Miles

1076
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: Garrett wrecked them. That created a lot of hathock on

1077
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: that offensive line. I just think the Steelers is still

1078
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: a better team. I think that they'll do something today

1079
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: to fix that, even have the double team if they can.

1080
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: But I just think the Steelers are a better team.

1081
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: The weather's going to be cold, the ball control with

1082
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: Najee Harris running the football, I think the Steelers win

1083
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: this game. But I think it's gonna be a low

1084
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: scoring game, though an ugly low scoring game. Maybe a

1085
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: turnover a two will be the deal on the winning

1086
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: or losing situation. But the Steelers win and it means more.

1087
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean the Browns. Really, a win doesn't do much.

1088
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: The Steelers are playing right now, not only for playoffs,

1089
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: but they're playing for like seating.

1090
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're playing.

1091
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 4: I mean they're playing for seeding and all those other things.

1092
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,719
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1094
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,839
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1095
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 5: One of the best things I've done.

1096
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 4: The insight that was provided in terms of each of

1097
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: those organizations, the leadership skills of the coaches, all of that.

1098
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 4: It is fascinating to watch. But you're right, this is Look,

1099
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 4: it's a personal game. They dropped one on Thursday that

1100
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: was embarrassing. If you asked them about it, you see

1101
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: a much better version of the Steelers when they rolled

1102
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: it out today.

1103
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: You talk about the Steelers, you know what they did

1104
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: to Cincinnati. They rolled up five hundred and twenty yards

1105
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: on the Bengals got a four hundred and fourteen yard

1106
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: pissing day from Russell Wilson. It was amazing what they

1107
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: did to the Bengals last week.

1108
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: It really was. I thought the Steelers.

1109
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: Would win, but I didn't think they'd roll up that

1110
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: kind of offense against them. You know, you talk about

1111
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: the hard knock. To stay with that for a second,

1112
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: because I watched that and it was wonderful and I

1113
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: just saw how tough Mike Tomlin was, I mean just intense.

1114
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: And then what was.

1115
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: Your takeaway from Zach Taylor? Because I like the guy.

1116
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: He's a good guy, he really is, But as far

1117
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: as a coach is concerned, I think he leaves something

1118
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: to be desired. What do you think what's your takeaway

1119
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: in Zach?

1120
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 4: I think he's different than the rest of his crew.

1121
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 4: He definitely is a different type leader and coach than

1122
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: the rest of the guys. Like there's an edge to

1123
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 4: John Harborough, there's an edge to Mike Tomlin that is

1124
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: a little different than what Zach Taylor presents.

1125
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 5: Now, he has a talented team, He's done a really

1126
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: good job.

1127
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 4: They went to a Super Bowl, so it's not all that,

1128
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: But I would just say he's different. He stands out

1129
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 4: as the outlier in the group when it comes to

1130
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: the way that these coaches present themselves to their teams

1131
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 4: and the way they kind of walk around in public.

1132
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think he has that.

1133
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: You don't you have to have a little bit of

1134
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: a fear factor as a coach, you know, just put

1135
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: the fear of God into a player at times. If

1136
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: you have it, maybe maybe it's not your personality. Maybe

1137
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: Zac can't do it because it's not his personality, you know,

1138
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: Tom and I think could do it. Really And and

1139
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: then when a guy scores, he goes, hey, I saw

1140
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: it coming.

1141
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 3: I knew you'd do that. I mean, it gives you confidence.

1142
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: I just you know, sometimes I look at Zach Taylor

1143
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: on the sidelines looking at a deer in the headlights.

1144
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 3: Really, it really does that to me.

1145
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: Look, he's different, he's a different guy. Like he's a

1146
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: kind of gent little soul than some of the other guys.

1147
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 4: But he's an effective coach. You can't deny what he's doing.

1148
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: I do worry about but here.

1149
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: He should be doing more with the talent that he has.

1150
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit, but they have some holes. Yeah

1151
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: he should, he should.

1152
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 5: He should do that.

1153
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 4: And look, I won't even say defensely. I think offensively

1154
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 4: they could help them on defense. Here's the underrated move

1155
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 4: that people don't talk about. They got rid of Joe Mixon.

1156
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 4: Have you looked at what Joe Mixon is doing right

1157
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 4: down in Houston and so Joe mix and being able

1158
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 4: to control the clock, being able to run the ball

1159
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: consistently between the tackles, being able to allow the Cincinnati

1160
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: Bingals offense to stay on the field so now they

1161
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 4: can protect their defense and not have them play so

1162
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 4: many snaps.

1163
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 5: All of it works together.

1164
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean there's some talent issues, but there's

1165
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: also some coaching stuff.

1166
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me stay with that for a second.

1167
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got rid of Joe Mixon, and certainly he

1168
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: could use the running game, and Moss has not done

1169
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: anything that got hurt, so I get that. But I

1170
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: think that Cincinnati Bengals offense was built on Joe Burrow

1171
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. That's basically it not that much of a

1172
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: run game. That's why they got rid of it. And

1173
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: I think on the money factor was also one of

1174
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: the reasons he's gone. And he fits in nicely in

1175
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: Uston with the Texas, he really does. But I don't

1176
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: think he was part of the system in Cincinnati because

1177
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: it's a past first run second system.

1178
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I understand that you want to do what

1179
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: your quarterback does really well, but there are things that

1180
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 4: you can do to all so control the game. And

1181
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 4: given Joe Burrow's injury history.

1182
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 5: Maybe we want.

1183
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow to be superhero seventeen weeks out the season.

1184
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: Maybe we want to dialt that back where we can

1185
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: lean on other parts of the offense to win. And

1186
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 4: maybe Joe Burrow only needs to be a superhero eight

1187
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: times a year. However that goes. But it shouldn't be

1188
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 4: all on him to have to do everything. That's a

1189
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 4: tough way to live, you know, Like in terms of

1190
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 4: your team living and down with one player, they could

1191
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: balance it out a little bit.

1192
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 5: And if you had a more balance.

1193
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: Lineup rostering those things, yeah, you'd be able to protect

1194
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: the defense and not expose them to so many big

1195
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 4: players opportunities.

1196
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: I'm carrying the banner for Joe Burrow and what do

1197
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: I mean by that. He's leading the NFL statistically for

1198
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and Jamar Chase is leading for receivers. And if

1199
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: I had to vote, I would vote for Joe Burrow

1200
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: for MVP.

1201
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 3: I really would.

1202
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: I know there is not a losing team, but in

1203
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: baseball there have been guys that have won the MVP

1204
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 2: last place teams. Ony Banks won or twice in the

1205
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs. This is going back in history but you

1206
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: gotta look at your history books. And then the Chicago

1207
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: Clubs finished last twice when only Banks won the MVP.

1208
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: If people were honest and truthful, they would vote for

1209
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow as the MVP.

1210
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: Do you agree.

1211
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't have him in an MVP discussion.

1212
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: I can't. He goes against everything. It goes against everything

1213
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 4: that we talk about. The most valuable thing. He could

1214
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: be like an offensive Player of the Year candidate or

1215
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: anything like that.

1216
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 5: But I can't put him up there.

1217
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 4: And I can respect what he's done, but in terms

1218
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 4: of MVP, I think it has to rather a direct

1219
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: impact on winning. To me, the MVP guys would be

1220
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley, who to me, he should be the clear

1221
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: front runner and it shouldn't be close.

1222
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 5: There's a lot of.

1223
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: Josh Allen love that's out there on the streets, but

1224
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's numbers paler comparisons to the numbers that he

1225
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 4: had previously, like his passing number of production.

1226
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 5: All that stuff is down.

1227
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: The team is winning, and we're kind of building out

1228
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: this narrative of him kind of being the hero to

1229
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: save today. But when you look at it, his numbers

1230
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's numbers and even Lamar Jackson's number in terms

1231
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 4: of overall impact, they peel in comparison to what Saquon

1232
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 4: Barkley is doing.

1233
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. Okay, I'm gonna move on

1234
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: to the Jets Dolphins. The Jets have lost eight of

1235
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: the last nine and they blew a fourteen point lead

1236
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: to Seattle last week, so they're pretty ugly. And Aaron Rodgers,

1237
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: the situation is, I guess he's gonna come back. He

1238
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: said he's going to play in New York, So I

1239
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: don't know if that means he's gonna play for the

1240
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: Jets or maybe go to the Giants. But I don't

1241
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: know how you build a team around the forty one

1242
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: year old quarterback.

1243
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: I just don't know that.

1244
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 5: I just it's over. It's over, finished, and he is over.

1245
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 4: No one wants to know about it, Like, look, I

1246
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: just saw it happen a couple of weeks ago with

1247
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: my but loved head coach Mack Brown. Sometimes when they

1248
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 4: don't know that it's over, you got to push them

1249
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 4: to let them know that it's over. And if you're

1250
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: the New York Jets, you tell them, yeah, man, it's over.

1251
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 5: We did it.

1252
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 4: We appreciate it, we appreciate your efforts, but we're moving

1253
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 4: on because it has over nothing. Yeah, nothing positive has

1254
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: come out of this for the New York Jets since

1255
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers has awrved.

1256
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 5: It is almost as if he's a black player out.

1257
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: They were more successful with Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold

1258
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: than Aaron Rodgers.

1259
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 3: You're exactly right.

1260
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, and it's over, and there's seasons over

1261
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: to three and nine. They'll be three and ten today.

1262
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: But again, the Dolphins have a glimmer of hope to

1263
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: go to the postseason at five and seven, so we'll

1264
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: see what happens there. And last, but not least, let

1265
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: me stick with this Jacksonville Jaguars at the Titans.

1266
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm gonna.

1267
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: Take it easy on you right now because I would

1268
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: say it's one of those Mike North gains where if

1269
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: it was in the backyard, you close to curtains, you

1270
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: don't want to watch it. But the Jags are two

1271
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: and ten, the Titans are three and nine, there's no

1272
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: really reason to watch it. I'm sure you'll be watching

1273
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: that game. You might even be there are you.

1274
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 4: There, I'm there, Yeah, I'm asteral Yeah.

1275
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: I would say this the Titans. They get this about

1276
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: the Titans thone. They rushed the ball eleven times for

1277
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: thirty five yards last Sunday and they are twelve penalties

1278
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: for thirty nine yards. So I would say just by

1279
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: that stat alone, things look promising for the Jacks today,

1280
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: they look well okay, But honestly, what they had with

1281
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence when that guy what Shire right, but he

1282
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: put that hit on Trevor last week that was ugly.

1283
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: That was bad and he should be suspended for the

1284
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: rest of the season. It was a bad hit.

1285
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you should be suspended for

1286
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 4: the rest of the season. Look, look, I'll even say

1287
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 4: this from my vantage point right because I had some

1288
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 4: commentary on it lining up with the Jaguars. And here's

1289
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 4: what happens when you allow the narrative get out there

1290
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: and you don't control the narrative.

1291
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 5: When the Texans made the distinct in.

1292
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 4: The fuss over him, said the Jaguars overreacted said it. Look,

1293
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: it was a late slide and Tom Brady weighed in

1294
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 4: on a late slide and all this stuff, and there

1295
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 4: are times when like quarterbacks do toe the line.

1296
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 5: That was not a time.

1297
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: Elscher here had him lined up and he took his shot.

1298
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 4: I think the more disappointing part is in a game

1299
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 4: like that, which is very much like baseball, Man, if

1300
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: you throw high and tight and you happen to hit

1301
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: so say you the Yankees, and the opposing team happens

1302
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: to hit Juan So though, well, you know, the next

1303
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 4: person for the opponent proposing teams come up, they're gonna

1304
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: get whizzed, chin checked, high and tight. That's just the

1305
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 4: unwritten code. The disappointment is that when a team not

1306
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 4: only hits your quarterback, but they put your quarterback to sleep.

1307
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 4: They knocked him out the game Andy, and there was, yeah,

1308
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 4: the little initial melee, but the game never became the

1309
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: kind of contentious game that it should. It didn't have

1310
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 4: the tension over it that it should. And even after

1311
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: the game when you go and shake hands or like

1312
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 4: one you shake hands or whatever. But it should be

1313
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: a personal fever pitch rivalry from now to the end

1314
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: of time, because that is a personal dirty shot. It

1315
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: should it should spark the kind of disdain four opponents

1316
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: that allows you to have a different energy when you

1317
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 4: play against these teams.

1318
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: How is he? How is Trevor right now?

1319
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 5: He's doing okay, they put them on.

1320
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 4: I can have surgery on his shoulder so he can

1321
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: be back fully returned to health.

1322
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, like that's over. So you see mac Jones

1323
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 5: from here.

1324
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: When it comes to Jaguars, he's had a rough couple

1325
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: of years since he's been to the NFL.

1326
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 3: He really has coaching.

1327
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: Changes, offensive coordinated changes, I mean, injuries.

1328
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: It's just bad team.

1329
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 2: It's just really you feel bad for the guy because

1330
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: he came into the league really herald. It is going

1331
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: to be like the next Dan Marino, I mean, the

1332
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: next superstar, next Joe Montana. Really right, I just and

1333
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: it may still happen in my but now coming off

1334
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: this injury, boy, I tell you it's not good. It

1335
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: really isn't good. But I do have another question for you.

1336
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: All right, what you got Here's the deal. I live

1337
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: in the greatest Cincinnati area and I follow the Bengals.

1338
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: Now there's a real good chance that they're not going

1339
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs and mathematically eliminated yet, and if

1340
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: they lose tomorrow night in Dallas, they probably will be

1341
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: mathematically eliminated. The question is this, If you are the coach,

1342
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: do you sit with coming off the injury of Trevor Lawrence?

1343
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: Do you sit Joe Burrow the rest of the year

1344
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: because you're afraid he may get hurt for next season

1345
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: You're going nowhere anyway? Do you bench him and Jamar

1346
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: Chase and say, look the heck with it, the season's over,

1347
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: We're not going to play this guy.

1348
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: What do you do now?

1349
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: Burrow probably would want to play, But if I'm a coach,

1350
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, and then again, here's the other side of

1351
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: the coin. If I'm the coach, I might be in

1352
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: the hot seat. And if I lose every game the

1353
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: rest of their way without Joe Burrow, I may get

1354
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: can So maybe I do want to play Joe Burrow.

1355
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1356
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 4: You want to play Joe Burrow? You want to try

1357
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: and build some momentum going into the next year. You

1358
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 4: want to re kindle some of the positive things that

1359
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: have been part of the franchise for years. You want

1360
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 4: to challenge yourself to see if you can finish strong,

1361
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 4: can you be about what you always preach about?

1362
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 5: All that stuff? So, yeah, Joe Burrow.

1363
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 4: Has to show up the coaching coaches, and everyone has

1364
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 4: to show up and show up with the right attitude.

1365
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: They got to show up to win. That's the expectation.

1366
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: So now you can't relent on that. If you can't

1367
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 4: succumb to the emotions of you gotta stay strong. You

1368
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 4: gotta continue to build it out because that's the only

1369
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 4: way your team is going to develop the toughness needed

1370
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 4: to be a perennial title contender.

1371
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: What if management tells the coaching staff, I don't want

1372
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: them to play, there goes the fear of injury. I mean,

1373
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: what if Mike Brown says to Zach Taylor, I don't

1374
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: care what you have in your heart of hearts, he's

1375
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: not playing.

1376
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Were paying big money. I don't want him hurt down

1377
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: the stretch.

1378
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 4: Then what you do is you get this backup reading

1379
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 4: and you just talk about it. You're transparent with your

1380
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: team about a here's situation. Ownership wants to protect the quarterback.

1381
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: We're gonna leave the quarterback out and we're gonna play

1382
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 4: with who we got, But whoever plays, when they step

1383
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 4: on the field, we expect to win and play it

1384
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: a certain standard.

1385
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 5: So now that doesn't change anything.

1386
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: And you would know this in fact that if, in

1387
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: fact they do bench several starters, does the NFL come

1388
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: in here and say something, because it's so sort of

1389
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: looks like it's tanking in a sense.

1390
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: But with the NFL have anything to say about that,

1391
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: I mean.

1392
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 4: It would have to be egregious, like it would have

1393
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: to be like obvious. But we've seen people do that

1394
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 4: at the end of the year, like last game of

1395
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: the year. Can't see the Chiefs when Pat Mahomes got

1396
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 4: his first start, it was all the backups. It's not unprecedented.

1397
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 4: Some people do that, you know, but football is different

1398
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: because you only have fifty three fifty four bodies. You

1399
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 4: gotta you know, when you start putting some guys up,

1400
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 4: it's still is not enough to completely flip how your

1401
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 4: first and second teams will operate.

1402
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 3: All right, sounds good to me. We roll on right now.

1403
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman. Get him on X

1404
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 2: at Bucket Brooks at Andy Furman fs. We'll reteat, we'll

1405
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: retweet them, we'll read them if they're worthy. Or our

1406
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: number three at Swollen Dome. That's Mike Harmon will join

1407
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: us in our number three. That there'll be eight am

1408
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: on the East Coast eight seven seven ninety nine O

1409
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: foxes our phone number eight seven seven nine nine six

1410
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: sixty three sixty nine This hour bottom barrel betting. As

1411
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 2: mentioned Mike Harmon the Swollen Dome in our number three.

1412
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: But look who's leading in the West.

1413
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: That's next.

1414
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: All right, here's the front runner for the league MVP.

1415
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: That's coming right up. He is our v every single Sunday.

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01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: That's Bucky Brooks. How many Defirman. We are Fox Football

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Speaker 2: you get your podcast. You see this show Fox Football

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Speaker 2: Sunday right after we get off the air, and we

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01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: are live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Let's

1429
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: get into this right now. We got the Seahawks at

1430
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. The Seahawks who would have funked this NFL

1431
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: leaders in the West. How surprising is that, mister Brooks. Unbelievable, Really,

1432
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,959
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

1433
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1434
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: No, They've done a really good job of kind of

1435
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 4: coming back finding their way. They lost a couple of

1436
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 4: games guy side track, but now they're back on it.

1437
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 4: And the thing that makes the Seahawks a big wild

1438
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 4: card is defensively they can play with anybody, but offensively,

1439
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 4: Gino Smith is a streaky pass it but when he

1440
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 4: is on man, their offense is a thing of beauty

1441
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 4: to watch. They got three wide receivers that can create problems.

1442
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 4: DK Metcalf, Tyler Locke, Att, JSN Jackson, Smith and Jigba.

1443
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 4: They can run the football. They can do some really

1444
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 4: creative things. It's just a matter of getting their quarterback

1445
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 4: to play at a high level consistently. But this team

1446
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 4: is fun to watch and up the teams in the West.

1447
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 4: They're the best team in the West. They just have

1448
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 4: to define that consistency. So we'll see if they can

1449
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 4: get that done.

1450
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 5: Well.

1451
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: It's a big one today there seven and five.

1452
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: The Cardinals are six and six, and several weeks ago

1453
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: in Seattle, the Cardinals won that game sixteen to six.

1454
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: So they really need this one now. The Seattle they

1455
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: won last week, they won three straight. They won last

1456
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: week against the Jets. They came back from fourteen down.

1457
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: They've been in twenty six to twenty one. Defensive end

1458
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. Leonard Williams, just like Gino Smith and

1459
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: an ex Jet two X Jets helped that win last

1460
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: week and let it. Williams with a sixth pick in

1461
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: the twenty fifteen draft. He had a pair of sacks

1462
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: against his former team last week, so we'll see what happens.

1463
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: He also had a ninety.

1464
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: Two yard picked six against Aaron Rodgers, so we'll see

1465
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: what they do today. But again, the Seahawks had eight

1466
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: snaps inside the Jets five yard line last week on

1467
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: the first drive of the second half, but they failed

1468
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: to score as Gino Smith was sacked for a fifteen

1469
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: yard loss on fourth and goal from the one. They

1470
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: got to do better today, less mistakes. They got to

1471
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 2: get it done today. Big win, big win today because

1472
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: they will be eight and five, Cardinals will be six

1473
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: and seven.

1474
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: Get them out of there. But if they lose.

1475
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: Seven and six and Cardinals seven to six, so it's

1476
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: a big game for both and the game is at Arizona,

1477
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: So what happens now? Cardinals have not allowed a touchdown

1478
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: in their last three home games, and look, a lot

1479
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 2: of the betters are picking the Cardinals to win.

1480
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 5: Look, it's a competitive game. But when I think about

1481
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 5: the talent.

1482
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 4: The Cardinals just falls short a little bit on talent,

1483
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 4: particular defenseven they don't have an established pass rusher. They're

1484
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 4: talented enough. I mean, they're good enough on offense to

1485
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 4: be able to put up points. But it puts a

1486
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 4: lot of pressure on caller Murray to play at a

1487
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 4: high level. So we'll see how this goes. But it

1488
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 4: should be a very competitive game when we get down

1489
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 4: to it.

1490
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this game right now is all about

1491
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: Geno smith you know, is he consistent or will he

1492
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: be wild? That's the key today. I really believe that.

1493
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean, forget about the past rush and figured about

1494
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: everything else, and forget about the great receivers there. I

1495
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: just think it's all about Geno Smiths today. I mean,

1496
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: putting a lot of pressure on him, but he's he

1497
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,479
Speaker 2: could throw the game away and that's the key right there.

1498
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 2: I think it is the key, and you got to

1499
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: be able to get it done. You got to be

1500
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: able to find a way to get it done for sure.

1501
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: All Right, now, let's talk about this MVP thing because

1502
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: the Bills are playing at the Rams today and that

1503
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: secondary because the MVP. Right now, they're sizing up the

1504
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: league MVP candidates with the betting odds, and right now,

1505
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,959
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is minus two fifty ahead of Sae Kwon

1506
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: Barkley who's plus four hundred. Jared Goff has plus nine hundred,

1507
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson plus eleven hundred, Patrick Mahomes plus fourteen hundred.

1508
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: On the odds of plus four hundred, that better could

1509
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: win that amount of the wages one hundred dollars. All right,

1510
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: I don't understand how after one week everything changes. Just

1511
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley did not get any worse. I mean, Josh Allen,

1512
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: that was the favorite. I think they're pour thing towards

1513
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: Josh Allen over Saquon Barkley because the last time it

1514
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: running back won the MVP was Adrian Peterson way back

1515
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve.

1516
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: Is kind of a quarterback trophy.

1517
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it is a quarterback trophy, but it's annoying

1518
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 4: because if it's gonna be the MVP and the most

1519
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 4: valuable player, the most impactful player. I don't know how

1520
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 4: you can't say that Saquon Barkley. It falls short when

1521
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 4: you look at his performance. If we're just looking at

1522
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 4: the performance, then what you want is the quarterback who wins.

1523
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 4: It should be like crushing it. When it comes to

1524
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 4: the numbers, Josh Allen's numbers, aren't they fail in comparison

1525
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 4: to the numbers that he put up when he probably

1526
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 4: could have and maybe should have won the MVP a

1527
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 4: few years back.

1528
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 5: I don't know what's different now. I think it's the perception, right.

1529
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 4: It's a better feel good story for Josh Allen, the

1530
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 4: redemption story, like, oh, we lost two of our receivers

1531
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 4: and everyone said we're not going to be a playoff

1532
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 4: team and law and behold, here we are.

1533
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 5: We're doing it.

1534
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 4: But the numbers don't support Josh Allen being the primary

1535
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 4: reason why they're doing it. He is terrific, But I'm

1536
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 4: saying this is not an MVP year if we're talking

1537
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 4: about the standard. Just like last year when Lamar Jackson won,

1538
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 4: he won, but it's because he's a quarterback or team

1539
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: that was hot or whatever. Those numbers weren't the numbers

1540
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 4: that you normally expect of an MVP, and we just

1541
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 4: have to be careful that we don't get so locked

1542
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: into giving the award to a quarterback that we miss

1543
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: other players that are performing at MVP levels at different positions.

1544
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you one thousand percent. And the reason why

1545
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: they're doing it is because they developed a running game.

1546
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: That's the key right there for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah,

1547
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 2: he's doing well and the team is doing very well.

1548
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: At ten and two, the Rams of six and six,

1549
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: and the thing is today and today's game, you will

1550
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: see that it's not old Josh Allen, What do I

1551
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: mean by that? The Rams are terrible against the run.

1552
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: So you look right now, the Bills are gonna run

1553
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: and that's gonna be James Cook. He should be able

1554
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: to run against the Rams. As a matter of fact,

1555
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: the Rams struggled so much against the run. They gave

1556
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: up two hundred and fifty five yards to Saquon Barkley

1557
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: back in week number twelve. Okay, obviously, can the Rams

1558
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: defensive backstop Amari Cooper back? I don't know. I don't

1559
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: think they can. But it's all about the running game,

1560
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: you know. And if James Cook gets the ball in

1561
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: his belly and he runs the football. He could run

1562
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: for a buck and a half today he can and

1563
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: we'll see what happened. And honestly, the game plan should

1564
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 2: be give him the ball.

1565
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: He should have twenty five to thirty carries today.

1566
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 4: I mean, the running game is better for everybody. Bounces,

1567
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 4: everybody out, creates big time opportunities. It's just a matter

1568
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 4: of being able to display the patience and discipline to

1569
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 4: do it. And when you do that, good things happen.

1570
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 4: But everyone's not built to do that. Some people build

1571
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 4: on the running game immediately and it becomes basically a

1572
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 4: seven or seven game, you know where you thrown it

1573
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 4: all over the York. But when they run the football,

1574
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 4: it gives them a much better chance of winning and

1575
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 4: winning consistently against the heavyweights.

1576
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when this schedule came out back whenever, June, July, whatever,

1577
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: you know, Bill's Rams would have been a key game.

1578
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: Right now, it's almost like a whole home game. I mean,

1579
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: the Bills should win, not by a lot, but I

1580
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: think the Bills are the better team right now. And

1581
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 2: I just I don't see a lot of great games

1582
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, as I said at the

1583
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: top of the show back at the six am Eastern.

1584
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 2: You know, the college game is more competitive in a

1585
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: week two week basis than the National Football League. You know,

1586
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: I may be mistaken, but I look at the Lions,

1587
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: I look at the Chiefs, I look at the Bills,

1588
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: the Eagles, and other than that, maybe the Vikings to

1589
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: some extent, and also the Steelers, but you know.

1590
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 3: There's still a shade below.

1591
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: But those are basically the teams that are the competitive

1592
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: teams in this league. The rest of the games, you know,

1593
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: the whole home games I look at, like Bear forty

1594
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: nine is Saints Giants waste the time. I mean, really

1595
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: and truly, they're not competitive. I don't know if that's

1596
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: a cycle the NFL is going through, as I don't

1597
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: remember the league being like that all the time. There's

1598
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: always been a handful of good games every week.

1599
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 3: It's not that way right now. It really isn't.

1600
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's different. Yeah, it's it's not

1601
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 4: the same. But like you have these ebbs and flows,

1602
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 4: like it is, it's a cycle. And so I expected

1603
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 4: to get back to what we just talked about, how

1604
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 4: we expected to be played. But it's a cycle just

1605
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 4: kinda kind of work through.

1606
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 3: That I should have put Green Bay in that group too.

1607
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: I think green Bay's is one of the top teams too,

1608
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: I really do.

1609
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 4: They're gonna go for the part how far how far?

1610
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 5: Well?

1611
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: I would say Lions, Lions Bills, and Kansas City and Eagles.

1612
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: Those four are like hidden shoulders above the rest of

1613
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: the crew. And then you got Viking, Steelers and maybe

1614
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: Green Bay and then group.

1615
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 4: Yes, no, I mean where we can put them at

1616
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 4: it like it's the same for like Lions Bills. Actually,

1617
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 4: I think you can put the Eagles maybe even ahead

1618
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 4: of both of those teams. Maybe the Eagles are the

1619
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 4: best team in football, and then the Chiefs are there,

1620
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 4: and then it's a Hodgepots because like the Minnesota Vikings

1621
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 4: have been disrespected, but they deserve to be in the conversation,

1622
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 4: like they can go just ease. They played a very

1623
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 4: competitive game where they just I mean they find ways

1624
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 4: to win, so they can be in the conversation. The

1625
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers are another team they could be in a conversation.

1626
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1627
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 4: The elite circle is small when it comes to the

1628
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 4: teams that I really guard. It is really the only

1629
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,520
Speaker 4: one or two teams like Detroit would be in that conversation.

1630
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 4: The Eagles are in their conversation. I don't see the

1631
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills as like elite, like the best of the

1632
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 4: best of the best.

1633
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe they can change my mind.

1634
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to give you another group, the disappointing group,

1635
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: the group that I really expected a lot more from

1636
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: and nothing's happening over there. Okay, I'm looking at the

1637
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: Houston Texans or in that group. Cleveland Browns are in

1638
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: that group. The Cincinnati Bengals, the La Rams, and the

1639
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers.

1640
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 4: Forty diners are probably the biggest disappointment to me. And

1641
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 4: the reason I'm not going to use the injury factor

1642
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 4: is if no, no, no, I think that's a bill out right.

1643
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 4: I think people that are appointing to that that's a

1644
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 4: bill out These issues that they had persisted long before

1645
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 4: people got hurt. Going back to the off season in

1646
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 4: the summer, Brandon Aiyuk and all of the guys that

1647
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 4: were kind of complaining and about the money thing.

1648
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 5: It hurt them.

1649
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 4: It was a team that was disjointed, and you know

1650
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,839
Speaker 4: Brandon and i Yuk not getting his money, Trent Williams

1651
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 4: missing camp trying to wait for his money. They do

1652
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 4: pay Christiy mccaffrom caffrey voluntarily, but then that creates another

1653
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 4: set of issues that no one ever acknowledged. But the

1654
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 4: locker room dynamics looking say, how the Christian McCaffrey get

1655
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 4: his money but everyone else is waiting, you know, like

1656
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 4: just that, and then brock parity, brock Perty has to

1657
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 4: feel some kind of way he can't get paid. But

1658
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 4: now people went from talking about paying him fifty six

1659
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 4: million dollars to like, oh, maybe they need to move

1660
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 4: on and he needs to prove it. So there's a

1661
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 4: lot of discord that exists within the team before you

1662
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 4: even get to the field, and people start criticizing how

1663
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,520
Speaker 4: everyone is playing individually and collectively.

1664
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just recipe for disaster.

1665
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: I think the average joe like myself, who never played

1666
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: the game, cannot really and truly relate to that problem.

1667
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: But I see it from a distance, and you've shown

1668
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 2: me that it's in San Francisco, but it's rolled over

1669
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: to the Cincinnati with Jamar Chase and way back during

1670
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: training camp when he'd be on the sidelines and not

1671
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 2: play and talked about the money, and he has two

1672
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: years left on his contract.

1673
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,839
Speaker 3: He was asked just the other day at a news.

1674
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: Conference Herecinnati, what about next year. We'll see, I mean Cohen.

1675
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: That doesn't bode well for guys that play with him.

1676
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: And there was also problems with Trey Hendrickson. You know,

1677
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: in the middle of July he said he wasn't going

1678
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: to play. That he came back and he's playing. So

1679
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: I think that does course, when you say at discord

1680
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: with the team, you know, another player say look, we

1681
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: need this guy to play. Why don't you pay the guy.

1682
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: They're paying Joe Burrow big money. You're not going to

1683
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 2: pay Jamar Chase. So I think there's a trickle down

1684
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: effect that I think it does effect play on the

1685
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: field and team morale and team chemistry.

1686
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does one hundred percent effect morale and team

1687
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 4: chemistry and those things. You got to be on the

1688
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 4: same page. You got to be locked in. And even

1689
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 4: though we talk about pro sports being one where you

1690
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:46,879
Speaker 4: got fifty three CEOs, individual contractors operating their own entities,

1691
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 4: you still have to come together if you want to

1692
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 4: win and win at a high level, and they haven't

1693
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 4: done it. Look It's one of the challenges of when

1694
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 4: you go to the Super Bowl and you lose it,

1695
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 4: it's hard to kind of put Humpty dumpty back together again.

1696
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: That's what happened to the Ravens when they went to

1697
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,879
Speaker 2: Super Bowl way back when with Joe Flappo.

1698
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 5: It's hard.

1699
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 4: It is such a hard deal to come back the

1700
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 4: next year because you put you four so much into

1701
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 4: this the Super Bowl year, right, so much. You've done everything,

1702
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,839
Speaker 4: you sacrifice or whatever, and you didn't get the reward.

1703
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 4: And so then to think that you got to go

1704
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: all the way back and grind to that same degree,

1705
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 4: hard to pull off, hard feet to accomplish.

1706
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 3: There we go.

1707
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: By the way, we're a live from the tire Rock

1708
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy ferman To

1709
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: talk about Super Bowl. This is a super Bowl every

1710
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 2: single week and we call it bottom barrel betting, and

1711
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: it's freaking next. All right, Alvin, that's enough, all right,

1712
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 2: this time for bottom barrel betting. This is Fox Football Sunday.

1713
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Fermany's bucket Brooks. About eleven minutes before the

1714
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: top of the hour, we are live from the tire

1715
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: Rock dot Com studios. We got a gate to play.

1716
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: Let's play. Yes it is. It's bottom barrel betting, and

1717
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 2: there's only one man who could handle it and his

1718
01:14:58,720 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: name is shay Sha.

1719
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: What's up?

1720
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 7: How are we doing?

1721
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 5: Guys?

1722
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 7: What's your beef with the Chipmunks? Man?

1723
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: I love Alvin, I get.

1724
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 7: Him, and I get it.

1725
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 8: Sometimes it gets annoying, all right, guys, Bucky is back

1726
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 8: to his former self.

1727
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 7: When it's hathy about that.

1728
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm trying to get excited when you know

1729
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 8: it's the same thing every week. You need to be

1730
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 8: excited about something, So I just I try to keep

1731
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 8: the fans engaged. You know, Andy, I'm sorry I had

1732
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 8: to call you out there, but hey, whoa you decided

1733
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 8: to call me out?

1734
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 7: Come on? Come on?

1735
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 8: But Andy, you did win the one about the Malayana too.

1736
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 8: Malyanna two did not end up hitting three hundred in

1737
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 8: the weekend, but it is hitting six hundred million after

1738
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 8: two weeks, so that's a pretty big deal. Which it

1739
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 8: is now leading out of all of the Disney Thanksgiving

1740
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 8: drops and actually out of any Thanksgiving movie drop it

1741
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 8: is leading. So a little fun fact for you guys

1742
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 8: before we get into this one.

1743
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, I've seen Wicked. Have you gone to see week?

1744
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 8: I have not seen Wicked yet. I might go see

1745
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 8: it next week with a lady friend of mine, but

1746
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 8: we'll see if I get forced to do that or not.

1747
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 7: I really don't want to.

1748
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a big one.

1749
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 8: I mean I like theater and all that, but I

1750
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 8: just I don't think I would enjoy Wicked, to be

1751
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 8: quite honest.

1752
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 7: But hey, I'm just being honest. Did you see it?

1753
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 3: Not yet?

1754
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 7: Okay, Bucky, you see it.

1755
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 4: I've not seen it.

1756
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 8: I've not seen it, So it's I feel like it's

1757
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 8: the same thing with you guys. But let's get right

1758
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 8: into Bucky is four and one after last week. Overall

1759
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 8: is Andy twenty seven. Bucky is thirty three.

1760
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm in striking distance.

1761
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 7: You are, really? You are?

1762
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 4: You are?

1763
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 8: You're in striking distance. We could even say a touchdown away,

1764
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,480
Speaker 8: but we'll see. In the Italian Volleyball Super League, Modana

1765
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 8: is taking on Milano today December eighth, at ten am

1766
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 8: Pacific Standard time. Modena is minus one fifty five while

1767
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 8: Milano is a plus one ten. Let's take it to

1768
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 8: the champ Bucky.

1769
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 4: Oh, let's go Mondana, Let's go Mandana right up the gate, easy,

1770
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 4: go ahead and get them.

1771
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 3: Andy, isn't that a beer? That's the name of a beer, Modena.

1772
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 7: Modello is what you're thinking? You know if I think

1773
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 7: it was close?

1774
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Milano, Milano, Milano.

1775
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got Milana.

1776
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: Then there was an actress name Milana, wasn't there What

1777
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 2: was the first name.

1778
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 7: I was thinking of, like those those cookie brands. You

1779
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 7: know what I'm talking about? Milano?

1780
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 3: Well, whatever it is, I got Milano.

1781
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 8: In the f I d E World Chess Championship Singapore

1782
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, defending world champ ding Lyren is taking

1783
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 8: on challenger Gukesh. Not going to say his last name

1784
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 8: right now. Goukesh is minus two eighty while ding Lyren

1785
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 8: is plus one ninety.

1786
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 7: Let's take it, Andy, I.

1787
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 2: Would take Goukesha one thing. If you could pronounce his

1788
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: last name, then I'll take him.

1789
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 8: Pronounces last night, I got you, give me, give me,

1790
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 8: let me, let me d o m m A r

1791
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 8: A g u j Ummorrow.

1792
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 3: Looks like looks like an eight chot when I spell

1793
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: it out, Ma mari raju. I got gooketchke.

1794
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 8: Good ketch And then ding Lyren is the other one.

1795
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 8: If you wanted to remember the name Bucky.

1796
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 5: I got okay, let's go, I got to go.

1797
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 7: Can't you can't? I love it? So in the Floorball

1798
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 7: Men's Championship.

1799
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 8: Floor ball is basically yeah, so it's basically a hockey

1800
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 8: kind of game, but they play it with on it's

1801
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 8: not on ice, it's just on a normal hardwood floor.

1802
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 8: And then the stick is a little different and there.

1803
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 3: Is no skates, just running around.

1804
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 8: No skates, They're just running around and they can't really

1805
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 8: deck each other or anything in it, so it's a

1806
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 8: little safer. Australia is taking on Philippines right now. Australia's

1807
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 8: minus one ten while Philippines is plus one fifty.

1808
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 7: That's take it a Bucky, give me, give me, give

1809
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 7: me things again.

1810
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 5: Name again.

1811
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 7: It's Australian and Philippines. Oh Australia, okay, okay.

1812
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: He says it was such confidence it scares me. How

1813
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 2: do you know that Australia is pretty good in floorball?

1814
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,839
Speaker 2: I mean really, when do they play this? Some guy's kitchen?

1815
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: I mean really, what do you play?

1816
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: Floorball is an arena and people think tickets to watch.

1817
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 4: Looking at run now, looking at the rundown the night before,

1818
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 4: trying to do a little research.

1819
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 5: I mean a professional.

1820
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: I don't get that. I don't got I'll come in,

1821
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 2: hit Cole. I got filled the Philippines, the Philippines.

1822
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 7: Hey, going in Cole can help you too. Sometimes I'll

1823
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 7: buy it Google.

1824
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 3: Don't want to Google floor ball?

1825
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 7: Look at up right now? Look it up. See how

1826
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 7: they're doing.

1827
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 3: Where's it play? Do you have to buy a ticket

1828
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 3: to go?

1829
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 8: I mean really, it's the same, like the same fields

1830
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 8: as the soccer indoor soccer fields. I think it's the

1831
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 8: same exact ones as those. So really, if that gives

1832
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,919
Speaker 8: you any are you in Australia, Philippines?

1833
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: Which one I got? The Philippines?

1834
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 7: You got Philippine.

1835
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 3: I've on a team and a goalkeeper.

1836
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 8: Okay, we gotta do this quick, guys. And the women's

1837
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 8: handball you're being a championship. Montenegro is playing Poland today.

1838
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 8: Montenegro is min four hundred, Poland is plus four twenty five.

1839
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 8: Andy Poland, Poland, Bucky Poland.

1840
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 7: Bag We got it. Good luck next week, Let's ride.

1841
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 3: Swollen dome next right here?

1842
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: Baby, Hey, greetings, welcome in.

1843
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 9: It's another beautiful Fox football Sunday.

1844
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: Add it again, it's week fourteen.

1845
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 9: If you're football league season, we come down the stretch,

1846
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 9: run holiday, holiday holidays, college football playoffs fun later on today.

1847
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 9: Honored to be with you guys as always, as we

1848
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1854
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 9: my giant oversized cup of coffee, is the ability to

1855
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 9: sit here.

1856
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: And talk with you.

1857
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 9: Andy Furman Broadcasting legend, prolific scribe and a legend in

1858
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 9: our business at Andy Furman FSR. And of course Bucky

1859
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 9: Brooks five years in the league working with the Jaguars

1860
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 9: NFL dot com, Fox sports dot Com read him, get smarter,

1861
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,559
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1862
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: Bets because of something you learn from Bucky Brooks. That's

1863
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: what we do.

1864
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 9: We try to make you a little bit smarter, maybe

1865
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 9: enrage you a little bit. Get the blood pumping on

1866
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 9: a Sunday morning as you get the coffee going, maybe

1867
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 9: you're out walking the dog too from services, whatever the

1868
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 9: case is. Thanks for being part of the extended family. Gentlemen,

1869
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 9: how are we doing this fine morning?

1870
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 3: Everything's beautiful, every great one.

1871
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: Yes see, that's a lot of positivity.

1872
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 9: Is just kidding now, I got to figure out how

1873
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 9: to jack you up a little bit as I've been

1874
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 9: waiting in the wings, you know, you know, like a

1875
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 9: caged animal, waiting for the microphone to open and the

1876
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 9: red light to come on in the studio, Mark and

1877
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 9: Shay making us sound so pretty this morning. The idea

1878
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 9: I heard you Andy kind of lamenting what we have

1879
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 9: in terms of an NFL schedule, six teams on a bye,

1880
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 9: the Wizards. That are six teams on a bye in

1881
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 9: Week fourteen of your National Football League Denver, Indianapolis, New England, Washington,

1882
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 9: Baltimore and Houston. A lot of big time players, a

1883
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 9: lot of fantasy holes blown blown open in lineups because

1884
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 9: of this in what is the final week of the

1885
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 9: regular season for a lot of fantasy teams. Bucky, you

1886
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 9: know this as well as anybody in terms of the

1887
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 9: chaos that that that ensues they're in, which means, hey.

1888
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: We're looking at Mac Jones. We like Mac Jones.

1889
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 9: I don't know, Cooper Rush Monday Night football, but that's

1890
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 9: where I want to start. Because of all the games,

1891
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 9: here's what might be the most interesting thing of it all.

1892
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 9: We have a Simpsons game on Monday night for your Bengals,

1893
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 9: Andy Furman.

1894
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: Right, look, I'm sure if they could have flexed that game,

1895
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: they would have flexed it.

1896
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 3: It was too late. They couldn't get it out of there.

1897
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 9: But I well, they couldn't because of the money spent

1898
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 9: on the Simpsons voice out over actors and overlays.

1899
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 3: And I think because of the poor records.

1900
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be kind here of both Bengals and

1901
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: Cowboys and really no future for them as far as

1902
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: players are concerned. I may watch the Simpsons version of

1903
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: the game.

1904
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 9: See that was that was the big question of it.

1905
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 9: Bucky could I could I get him to go that route?

1906
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 9: And he just jumped straight there look out, resigned and defeated.

1907
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: He was about it.

1908
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 2: I guarantee you will turn around it well, just to

1909
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: see it, to see what it's like.

1910
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1911
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. The last generations of these have been great.

1912
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 9: Curiosity factor, right, the Andy's Room, the SpongeBob, all of

1913
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 9: the different the slime games. They've all been pretty fantastic

1914
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 9: with little wrinkles along the way, And you're trying to

1915
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 9: reach different audiences with the Simpsons, if they really allowed

1916
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 9: these guys to go full in and I don't know,

1917
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 9: if you've watched the Simpsons the last couple of years,

1918
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,879
Speaker 9: you know they sometimes the language gets a little salty

1919
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 9: for you. So I'm in especially when we're looking at

1920
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 9: this these squads. But they bring ratings, right, people still

1921
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 9: want to watch Joe Burrow and certainly the Cowboys. That

1922
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 9: brand is still strong and they can have an actual

1923
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 9: winning streak here, Bucky, how about that?

1924
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 4: Look, I mean, look, it's important to stack them together

1925
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 4: and all wins matter, and you want to be doing that,

1926
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 4: like it's important. You do all the work to get

1927
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 4: into it. Why not win games? So I'm with you.

1928
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 9: Look, well, let's stay with that game for a second,

1929
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 9: because what we've had over the course of the last

1930
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 9: week is anybody who could step forward that has had

1931
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 9: a microphone.

1932
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: Including players on the team.

1933
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: Right.

1934
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 9: Micah Parsons has been very loud and vocal of oh

1935
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 9: I can't have a podcast and play well. But he's

1936
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 9: the latest to throw his hat into the ring talking

1937
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 9: about Hey, Mike McCarthy.

1938
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: We need continuity, we need to run it back.

1939
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: Quote.

1940
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 9: I think I would like a fair shot with everyone back, players, coaches,

1941
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 9: because the injuries kind of struck of what this season

1942
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 9: really could be. Injuries have been terrible. As you know,

1943
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 9: it really sucks seeing Zach d Law not having the year.

1944
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 9: I know he planned to have such a great he

1945
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 9: had such a great start, et cetera. In terms of

1946
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 9: coaching coach Mike me, his relations has always been really good.

1947
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 9: He's taken really good care of me. I just don't

1948
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 9: know how the business side, if it's going to go.

1949
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 9: You know, Jerry as his own mindset who he wants

1950
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 9: to coach, and this is his team. I'm just kind

1951
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 9: of like and I like this, recognizing I'm appalling in

1952
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 9: this business.

1953
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that is I mean that is. That

1954
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 5: is true.

1955
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 4: And if you go back, and here's what I'll say

1956
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 4: about my Maricarth that they went three straight years, would

1957
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 4: have had twelve wins.

1958
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 5: You shouldn't take that lightly. The fact that it was

1959
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 5: a mess when he inherited, because.

1960
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 4: They were there, they were plateau, they were just kind

1961
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 4: of leveled out. He makes them better for sure, And

1962
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 4: then you know, this year I would say that it's

1963
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 4: not his problem.

1964
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 5: I don't know how they were gonna win.

1965
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 4: Games with Rico Daldell at tailback, who we didn't know.

1966
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 4: They have one wide receiver in Cdee Lamb. As much

1967
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 4: as we talk about this team, and I'll say it,

1968
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 4: if you said enough, you begin to believe it. Right

1969
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 4: if you tell everyone that the Cowboys are Super Bowl contenders,

1970
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 4: because it's automatic clip bait or it draws in the

1971
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 4: listeners after.

1972
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 5: A while, we believe it.

1973
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 4: But when you really look at the way this team

1974
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 4: is constructed, they ain't a super Bowl contender, and they

1975
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 4: weren't a Super Bowl contended at the beginning. And so

1976
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 4: we the uniform, the brand, which is something Andy and

1977
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 4: I talked about. The Alabama brand and the Cowboys brand

1978
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 4: are the same. We like Evman in there because it

1979
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 4: fosters discussions. But look, no one should have realistically expected

1980
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy and his crew UH to compete and compete

1981
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: at a high level.

1982
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 2: Can I say one thing, please, coach, just clear the

1983
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: dust for a second. I know Dak Prescott said he

1984
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 2: wants McCarthy the return. Michael Parson says, you know, he's

1985
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 2: he's my guy. I wanted to return. Here's the deal.

1986
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 2: What player in his right mind, what employee of any

1987
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: company would drop a diamond that boss?

1988
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 3: Anyway? Think about it, Well, you watched.

1989
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: The Bears players do it for weeks ahead of eber.

1990
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 9: Flu Nothing, No Andy go back, and I promise you

1991
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 9: it was interview after interview with local radio TV wherever

1992
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 9: they could go, and sideswipe the coaching at every level

1993
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 9: they did.

1994
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 2: They I've read some of that, and it was more

1995
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: of like, you know, we question what we're doing. But

1996
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't out and out saying I but Flew's gone.

1997
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: No one really said we need to fire the coach.

1998
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, we're all smart enough to pick up

1999
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 9: the breads or maybe dumb enough to pick them up.

2000
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 1: But they won't make that gets late.

2001
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 2: But they'll look on ex shows, but no one's that

2002
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 2: all come right out and say, yeah, we'll do better

2003
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: if we get rid of our head coach.

2004
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen.

2005
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 2: It's the same thing if you work for Proctor and

2006
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 2: Gamble and say they're ready to the stock is low,

2007
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: and they asked some in plays, well we.

2008
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 3: Know what we need to get a new CEO. No

2009
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 3: one does that.

2010
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, but nowadays you can do that all and say,

2011
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 9: you know, anonymously because we get to use the words

2012
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 9: of source really liberally in anything we do here.

2013
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 1: But I think it also goes back to it.

2014
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 9: And there's a promo running Smith and I talking about

2015
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 9: Ryan Day right where we get all that outrage, and

2016
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 9: we talked about it a bit last week. It's like,

2017
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 9: what are you going into the marketplace that's better now?

2018
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 9: I certainly don't, you know, hold them as the grand

2019
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 9: poohba of guys. And I've said this and Sean Payton's

2020
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 9: having a fantastic year, Mike Tomlin's having a fantastic year,

2021
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 9: but those Super Bowls are long in the rear view mirror,

2022
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 9: right everybody else we do the what have you done

2023
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 9: for me lately? This isn't good enough. We need a

2024
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 9: different level. But there's also the reality of hey, over

2025
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 9: there is an unproven coordinator. Over there is a guy

2026
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 9: that maybe looking to get his second shot or third

2027
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 9: shot at a head coaching job. And as you said, Bucky,

2028
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 9: you got three straight years of twelve wins, and anybody

2029
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 9: that really looked at this roster, it's like, okay, they

2030
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 9: might be in a playoff mix. If things break right.

2031
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 9: But at no point was there anything they did to

2032
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 9: improve said roster that made you think that they were

2033
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 9: going to be real contenders again unless everybody else gets

2034
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 9: hurt and has the you know, get smited by the

2035
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 9: football gods, which has not happened. So what had instead

2036
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 9: was the Cowboys with an inferior roster also still had

2037
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 9: the number of injuries that piled up to put them

2038
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 9: in the position that they're in.

2039
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really glad that you brought up the

2040
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: two term injuries, all right, because there are stats for

2041
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 2: everything in the National Football League.

2042
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 3: How fast a quarterback releases the.

2043
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Football, you know, how far, you know, how many seconds

2044
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 2: it takes them to drop back. But I've never seen

2045
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 2: a stat as to how many injuries there are from

2046
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: year to year. And why I bring that up is

2047
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: because right now they have a seventeen game schedule looking

2048
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:20,879
Speaker 2: for an eighteen game one, which.

2049
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 3: I'm sure is going to happen.

2050
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like going through a Broadway show

2051
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: and paying good money and seeing the undercard the understudies.

2052
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 3: Really I don't want to see that. I do want

2053
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: to see the main players.

2054
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 2: And the more games you play, the more opportunities for

2055
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: injuries to occur. And I get it that football is

2056
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: a very dangerous sport and there's going to be injuries,

2057
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: but obviously the risk factor raises very much when you

2058
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: have more games to play. So I don't know why

2059
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: they're doing Look, I know why, it's money, obviously, But

2060
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: the point is this, I don't want to see backups.

2061
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to see the mac joneses other world.

2062
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that. I really I want

2063
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: to see the frontline players. And if I'm paying frontline

2064
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: money for season tickets, I think it's it's Beho's me

2065
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 2: and be Who's somebody to make sure these guys are playing?

2066
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but look, injuries happen. And one of the things

2067
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 4: you do when you add another game, you add additional buy.

2068
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 4: We can you create more roster spots. Look, all of

2069
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,919
Speaker 4: this is in the works, Okay. So we've saw practice

2070
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 4: squads go from seven to now there's sixteen guys that

2071
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:22,799
Speaker 4: you can hold.

2072
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,480
Speaker 5: Look, those sixteen.

2073
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 4: Practice squad spots may eventually turn into sixteen real roster spots, okay,

2074
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 4: And so they're preparing to get ready for that because

2075
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 4: it's going to be a boom there's a reason why

2076
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 4: games are on Netflix, there's a reason why we're seeing

2077
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 4: more games on Prime. We're doing all these special little

2078
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 4: things because it's another gateway to make more money. And

2079
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 4: like it or not, throwdat player health and safety, all

2080
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 4: that stuff out the window. It is about money and

2081
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 4: business and those things. And so we're gonna see an

2082
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 4: expanded thing. We're gonna do it. And look, we can't

2083
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 4: protect the quarterback anymore because the only one they really

2084
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 4: worry about when it comes to injuries the quarterback. Everybody else,

2085
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you can play around, but the quarterback is

2086
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:04,839
Speaker 4: where they're protected.

2087
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: But it's gonna happen, right And there's a lot of

2088
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: quarterbacks right now on the shelf. And you know about that.

2089
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is on the shelf. But in Cincinnati, Evan

2090
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 2: McPherson's on the shelf a kicker.

2091
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Come on, really?

2092
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean part of that was performance too Andy. Perhaps

2093
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 1: it's easy to kind of shuffle a guy.

2094
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: And when he blew that game, Look he lost four

2095
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 2: games for him this year when he blew the Baltimore game.

2096
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 2: After the game, and you know, as well as I do,

2097
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 2: go to the locker room after the game, there's like

2098
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 2: a ten minute cooling wealth period and they open it

2099
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 2: up to the media. He hid, and that's weak. Lose

2100
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 2: the game, I get it, it happens, but face the media.

2101
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker faces the media and he's not having a

2102
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 2: good year. But Evan McPherson didn't face the media. He hid,

2103
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 2: and that's weak.

2104
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 9: Well, Justin Ducker probably cost his quarterback the MVP Award

2105
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 9: as well. Along the way with a couple of those

2106
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 9: miskicks along the way, tough run for a would be

2107
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame guy. They're on there by this week.

2108
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 9: One of those six teams that I mentioned before. As

2109
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 9: you were talking about understudies, I think about Broadway, etc.

2110
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 9: Because unless it's a uh and this is one of

2111
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 9: those things I have to ask Andy, you know, how

2112
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 9: much do you really know the scorecard? Unless it's a

2113
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 9: Hollywood stunt casting for your Broadway leader.

2114
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 2: Well, it's usually promoted like, you know, go see this

2115
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 2: show see Wicket starring whoever.

2116
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 9: Right, Well, at this point I couldn't tell you who

2117
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 9: the leads are in Wicked. And I'm a theater kid

2118
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 9: and I love it. We went and saw it when

2119
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 9: we were in New York. I'm like, I don't know.

2120
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 9: It's not a Dean Menzel and Christian Broadway show.

2121
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 2: They'll say there's an announcer prior to the game and

2122
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 2: today's performance such and so Bucky Brooks will be playing

2123
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 2: the lead role in place of right.

2124
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, But my point is, you wouldn't have known the difference, no,

2125
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 9: if you would have just gone to that, Whereas on

2126
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 9: the NFL field, Oh yeah, we know the difference pretty

2127
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 9: clearly on most of these squads, even though we often

2128
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 9: cheer to see that backup show up, right, Bucky, Yeah, I.

2129
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 4: Mean yeah, we certainly cheered the back up to show up,

2130
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 4: and we hope that he can do something. But I'm

2131
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 4: living it. He's in it like.

2132
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 9: The most popular guy until he takes a snap, until

2133
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 9: he has to play.

2134
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 4: We all love the backup until they have to play

2135
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 4: Planet plant it out right now Mac Jones over Trevor Lawrence,

2136
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 4: Like that's part of the deal. But I don't think

2137
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 4: we can excuse performance on injuries like it's such a

2138
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 4: random thing, Like like good coaches play around it, like

2139
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 4: there there's there's a look, there's a breaking point for sure.

2140
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 4: But the Detroit Lions got a bunch of guys on

2141
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 4: Ayden Hutchison. They lost Malcolm Martriguez, they've lost a few.

2142
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: Reader was out.

2143
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just keep you keep doing it, and good

2144
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 4: coaches figure out ways.

2145
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 5: To win around it.

2146
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 4: So it can't be old the team completely fell apart

2147
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 4: because we had an injury or two. It still has

2148
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 4: to be something where you can feel the coach's presence

2149
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 4: and impact on the squad.

2150
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 9: Conversely, if the guy is in between the white lines,

2151
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 9: you know he played right, there's no there's nothing else

2152
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 9: that can I was like, well, I'm not going to

2153
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 9: caveat everything out going while he's dealing with this and

2154
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 9: bus bust out the whack operation.

2155
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Right, how do you parse through that?

2156
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2157
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 4: And so that's the thing, and so right you talked

2158
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 4: about like judging the player. If you walk between the lines,

2159
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 4: you judged. I had a conversation with a buddy of

2160
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 4: mine from the Packers because I don't put his name

2161
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 4: out there, but we talked about it. He said, guys

2162
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 4: in this age right now are really worried about how

2163
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 4: people perceive them. I don't want to go out there

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Speaker 4: if I'm not one hundred percent and people judge me wrong.

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Speaker 4: If I played poorly, like that's a real consideration. And

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Speaker 4: so you tell players like, you know, you got to

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01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 4: play through this and that. But they also are keenly

2168
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 4: aware that when they step out there, no one cares,

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01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 4: you know, like when I told you when Jameis Winston

2170
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 4: on Monday Night, right, he threw interceptions, So the narrative

2171
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 4: was like, oh, thirty for thirty, right, but we don't

2172
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 4: remember that he had a broken thumb when he played

2173
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 4: through that year.

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Speaker 5: No one cares.

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01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 4: They just weren't judge people by the performance.

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01:34:58,160 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you have people you talk about.

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Speaker 2: The people that no one cares is the people that

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01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 2: don't count, don't care, you know what I mean? The

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01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 2: people that count know, the coaching staff, the person that

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01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the fans in the stands who

2181
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 2: are drinking beer and are drunk.

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Speaker 3: They're the ones that, hey, you know, why did you

2183
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 3: getting know all that of money? Well? You know right,

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01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 3: those are the ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but perception becomes reality because guess what, you eventually

2186
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 4: have to stand in front of the microphones and ask

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01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 4: questions that reporters are going to field from fans wanting

2188
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 4: to know, well, why did you play him like he's

2189
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 4: the best that we got, but he was hurt. Yeah,

2190
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 4: no one cares about that. So ultimately we all are

2191
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 4: responsible for those that take the lines. And so that's

2192
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 4: why you have to make those decisions carefully when you

2193
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 4: do play injured players or you do with whole players,

2194
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 4: because ultimately, the person who is the leader who has

2195
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 4: to whistle, he's accountable to that, He's accountable to the response,

2196
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 4: he's accountable to the performance of everyone that steps between

2197
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 4: the lines. And that's why such a tough gig. You

2198
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 4: have to make decisions based on what gives your team

2199
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 4: the best chance to win. And sometimes you hurt yourself

2200
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 4: by putting guys out there that you think can help

2201
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 4: you win when they're not fully capable of you.

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01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 2: Run this by the swollen don't for a second, Okay,

2203
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: because I mentioned this to Bucky earlier today. There's a

2204
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 2: real good chance that after tomorrow night, the Cincinnati Bengals

2205
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 2: will be mathematically finally eliminated from playoff competition. Do you

2206
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 2: sit Joe Burrow for fear of him getting hurt and

2207
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 2: he'll be out maybe even next year, can not come

2208
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 2: back in time, or have to.

2209
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:25,759
Speaker 3: Go undergo surgery or whatever.

2210
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 2: Do you sit him and not play him the rest

2211
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 2: of the year because they're out of the playoff competition.

2212
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 9: If Joe Burrow is the guy I think he is,

2213
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 9: he's getting in his batmobile and he's running you.

2214
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 1: Over, right, he's what he'd say.

2215
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 9: It came out on that Hard Knocks thing said he

2216
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 9: was one of the guys that buy the three million

2217
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 9: dollar batmobile. If he's the player and guy that I

2218
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,839
Speaker 9: believe that he is. And you guys can speak to this. Andy,

2219
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 9: certainly you follow the Bengals more than me and Bucky.

2220
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 9: I mean, you just know the competitivity. Does Joe Burrow

2221
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 9: seem like a guy that is going to allow you

2222
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 9: to do that? No, No, he'll want to play, right,

2223
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 9: And Jamar Chase with his numbers and everything he's got

2224
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 9: going on, like he's having a ridiculous You look at

2225
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 9: their year offensively, and Chase is playing for a contract, right,

2226
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 9: he still wants his deal. Right, he's been sabotaged. And

2227
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 9: whatever's real, whatever's imagined. In terms of t Higgins, again,

2228
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 9: as you said, Bucky, perception becomes reality. Back to back years,

2229
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 9: T Higgins misses extended time and we're wondering how many

2230
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 9: of those games were necessary versus could you have gutted

2231
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 9: it out those kind of things as things were spiraling

2232
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 9: that your offense is still one of the most prolific.

2233
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 9: I mean, Joe Burrows at what thirty touchdowns against five

2234
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 9: picks this year?

2235
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, something right, ridiculous numbers.

2236
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 9: There's no chance in hell he's saying, hey, I'm taking

2237
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 9: a month off at the back end of this season

2238
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 9: because this happens.

2239
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 3: A term perception.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought the term perception because when you

2241
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 2: heard Joe Burrow talk about buying a batmobile, was.

2242
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 1: How three million bucks Warner Brothers did a deal.

2243
01:37:55,520 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 2: You don't think that hurts perception, the public perception more

2244
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 2: so than playing poorly or when you're injured. I mean,

2245
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 2: you don't think when they people heard that and they

2246
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 2: made a big deal about that in the Cincinnati area

2247
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: media about you know, his batmobile right now, you know

2248
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 2: people are not gonna say, doesn't he have something better

2249
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 2: to do with his money? Or maybe you're getting paid

2250
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 2: too much that he's got to play around with a.

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01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 3: Bat that's perception watching perception.

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01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go walk through Cincinnati. There are the same

2253
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 9: people that I was charying. I was screaming at after

2254
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 9: the Super Bowl when they thought it was gonna be oh,

2255
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 9: the great window, we'll be back. No, that's not how

2256
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 9: this works. And now you're watching it year after year

2257
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,839
Speaker 9: of oh man, maybe that was the only chance.

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01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I mean, they have no clue.

2259
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 1: So if they're.

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01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 9: Pocket watching over the ten minutes it took for him

2261
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 9: to go, boy, I'm a Batman fan. They're doing a

2262
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 9: cool thing. Accountant three million. We can do this right

2263
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 9: because it's also an investment. There's more than ten people

2264
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 9: that are gonna want these things. But like, if we're

2265
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,919
Speaker 9: pocket watching him and not looking at McPherson, not wondering

2266
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 9: if if lou Ana Roumos walked into the building to

2267
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 9: actually coach defense this year, I think we got bigger

2268
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 9: problems with Cincinnati fans.

2269
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 2: No, but he's the topic of conversation now because of

2270
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:14,520
Speaker 2: the batmobile.

2271
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 3: They're lazy?

2272
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 9: Is that if that reflects badly on him, then they

2273
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 9: need to reevaluate their lives.

2274
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 2: Well, I think people are saying, oh, my goodness, does

2275
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 2: he have some better to do with his money?

2276
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 3: Or he's getting paid too much?

2277
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 2: You know, it takes sobouny money instead of buying a batmobile,

2278
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 2: give it to Jamar Chase for his contract.

2279
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 3: That's what people are saying.

2280
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 9: See he's still pocket watching though, Bucky, we'll continue this,

2281
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 9: and I'm not.

2282
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm not. I promise we'll continue.

2283
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 9: This because we've got a couple of quarterbacks that are

2284
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 9: in the crosshairs as well in terms of their contracts

2285
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 9: and whether they should still be on the field. Things

2286
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 9: you may have touched out a little bit earlier.

2287
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 3: You have buy a batmobile.

2288
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: Hey man, if I had three million dollars that I

2289
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 1: knew was not if one.

2290
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 9: If I had three million dollars, I'd be long gone

2291
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 9: and hiding on an island. But two, if I had

2292
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 9: an extra three million, where I'm in the batmobile. The

2293
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 9: last thing I'm worried about is what guys are saying

2294
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 9: in the blog is well, I tell you.

2295
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: Right now, fired the three million dollars. I'd sooner buy

2296
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 2: a Batmobil than that clown of Kentucky's putting three point

2297
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 2: one mili on the Eagles to win today they.

2298
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 9: Got minus thirteen and a half. He's Andy Furman and

2299
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 9: Andy Furman FSR over. There is Bucky Brooks at Bucky

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Speaker 9: Brooks find me over at swollen dome. We continue with

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01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:23,160
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Speaker 9: you have two hours of Andy Ferman and Bucky Brooks.

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01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 9: They discussed Bill Belichick the football. Many of the games

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01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,879
Speaker 9: on the slate, we still have a few to do, fellas.

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01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 9: But one of the things that's circulating out there in

2330
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 9: Minnesota's got a decision to make with Sam Darnold now

2331
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 9: a robust free agent class out here, like the guy

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01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 9: that he replaced. Well, they'll meet up today, Captain Kirk.

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01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 9: This goes back to the early conversation because we weave

2334
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 9: a rich tapestry, you know, all the potential that Kirk cousins. Yeah,

2335
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 9: he's dealing with injury and this that the other. Because

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01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 9: the last couple of weeks, let's face it hasn't been

2337
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 9: pretty in the calls from Michael Pennix Junior or robust.

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01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: But for Sam.

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01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 9: Donald, he's in an ENVA pole position, winning games, late

2340
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:28,520
Speaker 9: for the Vikings with a strong squad, and JJ McCarthy

2341
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 9: had to have a second surgery. So right now he's

2342
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 9: in the catbird seed. He's gonna have suitors, and even

2343
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 9: in Minnesota though they haven't profered an offer yet. Looks

2344
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 9: like you met be in a position of power here.

2345
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 9: Who would have thought the former Jet punchline who saw

2346
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 9: ghosts might be the guy right and you know, cash

2347
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 9: in the big checks. Maybe he'll get a batmobile, Andy Furman.

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01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 3: You know what I'd love to see, though I will

2349
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 3: never see this.

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01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 2: I'd love to see the guy who drafted Sam Donald

2351
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 2: from the Jets come out and say I didn't think

2352
01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 2: he could do this.

2353
01:42:58,600 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 3: I was wrong.

2354
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 2: Sam Donald right now as we speak to like some

2355
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 2: of like twenty three touchdowns and ten I t's and

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01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 2: he's he's like completed like almost sixty seven percent of

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01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 2: his passes.

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01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a twenty nine hundred yards.

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01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 2: I mean he's having a great year under the system

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01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 2: that he has in Minnesota. But again, we will never

2361
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 2: see guys eating crow. I mean, you know, he even

2362
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: that so called draft guru on the four Letter Network,

2363
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 2: which I won't even give his name.

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01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: You know, I want him to come back.

2365
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 2: People come back to him three four years after he

2366
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 2: makes those great picks and see how they did.

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01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.

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01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 2: And any schmuck can make a pick and say this

2369
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 2: guy's gonna go here, he's gonna do this, but let's

2370
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 2: see what he really does. That's the key. No one

2371
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 2: follows up. I want to follow up. That's what I want.

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01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 4: Well, so much of everything and I'll say this, and

2373
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 4: maybe this will strike a nerve with my guy harmon,

2374
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 4: but I'll say so much of what we think about

2375
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 4: players is what has been fair to us, and listening

2376
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,839
Speaker 4: to telecast and broadcasts, so much of the Caleb Williams

2377
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 4: conversation as a generational talent is because we heard that

2378
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 4: so lawn for so many years on broadcasts. Everybody, Oh

2379
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 4: it's a generational tell Oh it's the generation.

2380
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 5: So what happens we begin to.

2381
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 4: Believe that he's a generational talent, even though that would

2382
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 4: suggest that every year some generational talent is coming, which

2383
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 4: is bingo.

2384
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 5: He defeats the thing.

2385
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 4: Well anyway, So what happens is perception becomes reality. And

2386
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 4: so now, using Chicago as an example, we're ready to

2387
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 4: blame everybody for quote unquote messing up Caleb Williams where

2388
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 4: maybe we may have misevaluated him, maybe he isn't what

2389
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 4: we thought. The same thing when it comes to Sam Donald.

2390
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 4: And to bring it back to Sam Donald, here's what

2391
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 4: the Minnesota Vikings have done to proactively have a backup

2392
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 4: plan in place. Where is Daniel Jones currently on the

2393
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 4: practice squad in Minnesota? What does that afford to Minnesota Vikings?

2394
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 4: An opportunity to one evaluate him every day in practice

2395
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 4: they can do to compare and contrast, how's Daniel Jones

2396
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 4: compared to Sam Donald? Could we do a similar thing

2397
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 4: with Daniel Jones that we did with Sam Donald. Let's

2398
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 4: give him the playbook six weeks early. So now going

2399
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 4: into the off season, we have an opportunity to do it.

2400
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 4: Sam Donald. We can franchise you, or we can let

2401
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 4: you go. They have a bunch of different options. Great

2402
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 4: organizations are always looking around the corner at what could happen,

2403
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 4: what is the next step. And so as much as

2404
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 4: we talk about Sam Donald being in a position of power,

2405
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 4: outre countedate by saying no, Minnesota's fine.

2406
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 5: They have options available. If they like them, they can

2407
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 5: keep them. But if not.

2408
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,680
Speaker 4: They're okay moving on from him, and they have a

2409
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 4: bunch of different vehicles that they can utilize to make

2410
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 4: sure they get compensation back.

2411
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 2: Now, you make an excellent point, he really did because

2412
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 2: Green Bay did it. The whole system was what Jordan Love,

2413
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Kansas City did at Alex Smith, Patrick Mahomes,

2414
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 2: and Green Bay has done that all the time.

2415
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 3: They always a.

2416
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 2: Backup quarterback the learning situation. It's Graham surprised no one

2417
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 2: else doesn't. But the two or three teams do it.

2418
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 3: That's wold.

2419
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 9: But it goes back to something that's the I guess

2420
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 9: the hallmark of the conversations the three of us have

2421
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,640
Speaker 9: had a bucky you know for years as well, is

2422
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 9: how many organizations do you say they get it and

2423
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 9: that there is actually a long view versus we're scrambling

2424
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 9: to get through the season. It's very few, very few

2425
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 9: teams that you say consistency, continuity. San Francisco, who we'll

2426
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 9: talk about here on the field in a moment. Now

2427
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 9: it may feel like it's unraveling, but at the top

2428
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 9: they're still looking around going, yeah, we've got a long term.

2429
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 9: It's not one year that defines how we're operating, whereas

2430
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 9: most teams it's a reactionary kind of situation. And when

2431
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 9: you look at the rams, when you look at what

2432
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 9: Minnesota now has with Kevin O'Connell, you've got some stability

2433
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 9: in place and some forward thinking and yeah, getting Daniel

2434
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 9: Jones on the chief and getting him to come in

2435
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 9: there to try to learn and see if you can

2436
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 9: reclaim some of what made him a first round.

2437
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 1: Pick, because that's the other part of it. These guys weren't.

2438
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 9: First round picks only for those teams, right, They would

2439
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 9: have gone somewhere else just a little bit later, but

2440
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 9: they still would have been first round grades, which means

2441
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 9: someone else would have had him into a better squad.

2442
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 9: Go back to the Ben Roethlisberger getting to Pittsburgh coming

2443
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 9: out of college. You know, if he didn't have the

2444
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 9: Miami Ohio sticker, would he have gotten drafted maybe a

2445
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 9: couple of ticks higher and never got into that situation.

2446
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 1: We don't know.

2447
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 3: I will tell you this. I'm not here to attack

2448
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:22,759
Speaker 3: Mike Harmon.

2449
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 2: However, however, you talk about longevity and consistency, what about

2450
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,599
Speaker 2: your Chicago Bears? All right, they couldn't we Jim Harba

2451
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 2: they could have had Jim Harper as the coach. Put

2452
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,759
Speaker 2: a personality disagreement. They didn't want to interview Jim Harbor.

2453
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

2454
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:42,440
Speaker 9: Come on, really, Andy, whatever they get this surprises you,

2455
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 9: Like any of this talk about the Bears could have

2456
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 9: done this, that and the other, and it's like, look,

2457
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 9: they failed on this, Like that's the organization and it's

2458
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:54,520
Speaker 9: high like it's twenty twenty hindsight right with Jim Harbaugh,

2459
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 9: Like the Bears were not going to pay him and

2460
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 9: let him come in and be the guy. Want more

2461
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 9: of a puppet than Jerry Jones does when it's all

2462
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 9: said and done, Like it's a you're not empowered there.

2463
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 9: The Kingsbury thing is just ridiculous logic. They weren't going

2464
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 9: to come in and pay him what he wanted, Like

2465
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 9: they don't want to pay a head coach, right, that's

2466
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 9: why they've promoted a guy to the head coaching job

2467
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 9: eighteen days after he was a cordinator. He wasn't even

2468
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:27,600
Speaker 9: a coordinator eighteen days ago. Like, hey, let's run it

2469
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 9: out with him and see if this works. Like they

2470
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 9: don't want to pay anybody. They want to get him

2471
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 9: on the cheap.

2472
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 1: If they can.

2473
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 9: So the Jim Harbaugh thing is to me, it was

2474
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 9: a non start. It's a great thing to say, hey,

2475
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 9: they could have had that was I don't believe there

2476
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 9: was a shred of truth that that was ever going

2477
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 9: to happen, no matter how interested he may have been.

2478
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a good point.

2479
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,719
Speaker 4: I also think the revelation when they talk about Kevin

2480
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 4: Warren to president running things, I don't know, like why

2481
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 4: it's taking so long for people to realize that they've

2482
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 4: shown you that and playing you look at the behind

2483
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:04,599
Speaker 4: the scenes videos where they followed him around the city

2484
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 4: going to the job and those things. I've never seen

2485
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 4: any other president followed around with cameras where they talk

2486
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 4: about a day in the life of the team, president

2487
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 4: of the thing. It's very obvious, like how that goes

2488
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 4: down and what you hope for the Bears and what

2489
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 4: I hope for the Bears is they find they get

2490
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,679
Speaker 4: the right fit because we've seen this team cycle through

2491
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 4: coaches over and over and over again, and at some

2492
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,759
Speaker 4: point you have to realize, maybe it's not the coaches,

2493
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 4: maybe it's the way the team is structured, and if

2494
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 4: you fix the structure, you get the right people. Then

2495
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 4: maybe the Bears can be who many of us expect

2496
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 4: them to be. I will say this, though, everyone in

2497
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 4: the North has hope because after watching Detroit go from

2498
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 4: being a celebrate dweller to a perennial contender, there's hope

2499
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 4: because they couldn't fix it for years and they finally

2500
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 4: figured it out.

2501
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 5: Hopefully the same can happen for the Chicago Bear.

2502
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 9: I will give Kevin Warren credit for one thing. In

2503
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 9: that press conference the other day. He did everything he

2504
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 9: could to say, hey, when it fails, it's still on

2505
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:00,799
Speaker 9: Ryan Poles.

2506
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 1: Clearly he had all.

2507
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 9: Out here, I'm the guy, look at me, I'm mister

2508
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 9: Chicago and everything, because originally was all about the business

2509
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,560
Speaker 9: in the stadium, whatever else. Clearly he's the guy, is

2510
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 9: the puppeteer, as you say, here's your day in the

2511
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 9: life stuff. But he basically made this guy an empty suit.

2512
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, oh no, it's

2513
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 9: still him, like you've basically taking any shred of power

2514
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 9: and dare I say dignity from this poor man. And

2515
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 9: when he was asked what went wrong with Shane Waldron,

2516
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 9: he sat there stupefied for twelve seconds before he uttered

2517
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 9: a damn words.

2518
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 2: Did he throw him under the bus? He backed the

2519
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 2: bus up and drove over him again.

2520
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it's completely the end of the Naked Gun

2521
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 9: and then you it rewind.

2522
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: Wait did I see what I just saw? Yeah?

2523
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 9: Let's watch the bus roll through as the marching Man

2524
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 9: plays again, speak of witch. Let's talk about the.

2525
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 1: Bears a second.

2526
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 9: Bears at forty nine ers San Francisco forty nine ers,

2527
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 9: three and a half point favorites.

2528
01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 1: Forty three and a half is your total in this.

2529
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 9: Guarendo is your man of the hour, the running back,

2530
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:07,440
Speaker 9: because well there's no Mason, there's no McCaffrey. Party expected

2531
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:10,679
Speaker 9: to give it the old college try shoulder injury for him.

2532
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 9: San Francisco, despite having McCaffrey out of the lineup for

2533
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,799
Speaker 9: a good chunk of the year, still seventh in the league,

2534
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 9: rushing at a pace of one hundred and forty yards

2535
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 9: per game, Bears losers of six straight in spectacular fashion,

2536
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 9: virtually every week. Forty nine ers, three of their own.

2537
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 9: Caleb Williams five touchdowns and you're looking at it. You know,

2538
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 9: had two big weeks, but in four of his last

2539
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,879
Speaker 9: six he's completed fewer than less than fifty five percent

2540
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 9: of his pass attempts. But what's holding them together? Turnover

2541
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 9: differential time for fourth A plus ten. All right, the

2542
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 9: battle of what could have beens? Bucky, I start with you,

2543
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:58,600
Speaker 9: where's the game at again? San Francisco, Santa Clara, California,

2544
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 9: My old with when I was with the point.

2545
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 4: This has to be the last one for the Niners

2546
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 4: because I think everyone in the building knows.

2547
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say that. Because of that, the desperate.

2548
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 4: Ration that the Niners bring to the table is the

2549
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 4: difference in the game.

2550
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:13,679
Speaker 3: You know, I will tell you this much.

2551
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 2: You know from the injury factor alone in San Francisco,

2552
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 2: you may think that the Bears talent today could match

2553
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 2: up with the forty nine ers with deanre Smith, I

2554
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 2: mean Swift and Dj Moore, Keenan Allen Doonza. I mean, honestly,

2555
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 2: I think this game is gonna be a lot closer

2556
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 2: than one would think. The only question here is can

2557
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 2: the Bears protect Caleb Williams And I look at Nick

2558
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 2: Bose it could be a big factor.

2559
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 3: In this game. So that's the key right there. Can

2560
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 3: they can.

2561
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 2: They control connect protect Kleb Williams. If they can, I

2562
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 2: think the Bears have a chance. Otherwise it's a forty

2563
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 2: nine game. The game obviously is in Santa Clara, as

2564
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 2: you mentioned, but I think it's would be a lot

2565
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 2: closer than people think.

2566
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 1: Plus three and a half.

2567
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 9: I'll take the Bears with the points they're gonna lose

2568
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 9: and the next sack again, it's Caleb Williams, and balloons

2569
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 9: are gonna fall from the sky because it will be

2570
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,759
Speaker 9: the fiftieth on the season. That's Andy Furman, that's Bucky Brooks.

2571
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 9: I'm Mike Carmon. Yeah, there you go. I got that

2572
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 9: out of my system. I'm feeling good. Now let's go.

2573
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 9: We got a couple more games to get to. As

2574
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 9: we conclude this hour a Fox Football Sunday, you're all

2575
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 9: bopping along. Happy Sunday to you right in early week

2576
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 9: fourteen your National Football League season. Later on we'll get

2577
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 9: the final College football playoff rankings and all the fights

2578
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 9: that will spill out, ads and coaches, politicking, politicking all

2579
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 9: the way through. You thought political season was over, you

2580
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 9: ain't seen nothing yet. Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks, and I

2581
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 9: appreciate y'all being out there at Andy Furman FSR.

2582
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 1: Get a hold of Andy during the.

2583
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 9: Week at Bucky Brooks and of course read him NFL

2584
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 9: dot Com his columns, see the Top fives and everything

2585
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,719
Speaker 9: he does as well for Foxsports dot Com. And here

2586
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 9: each and every week we gather Mark Shae making us

2587
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 9: sounds so pretty. We appreciate you guys. We got two

2588
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 9: more games to get to. Let's do it, Chargers said cheef.

2589
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 9: Here we go Sunday Night Football. Chargers four point underdogs

2590
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 9: on the road forty two and a half. The promo

2591
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 9: videos a song that is well like that earworm and

2592
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 9: the thing where you start jumping around get out of

2593
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 9: my head because they're playing Everybody wants to Rule the world,

2594
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:25,640
Speaker 9: which is one of those that we gets taunted on

2595
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,959
Speaker 9: our show during the week. McConkey a game time decision,

2596
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 9: the steady performer for the Chargers in the receiving core.

2597
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 9: You know, Justin Herbert right now, tied for nineteenth, just

2598
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 9: thirteen touchdown passes this year, but just one interception. Mahomes

2599
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 9: for all of the consternation, He's tied for eighth with nineteenth.

2600
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 9: What a different world we're living in, isn't it. Los

2601
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 9: Angeles rushing on average just one yard more per game

2602
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 9: than Kansas City again. Perception reality as to what's going

2603
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:59,879
Speaker 9: on there, Chargers third turnover differential plus eleven on the season.

2604
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: Upset special? Are we calling for it?

2605
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 3: Here?

2606
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Andy Furman?

2607
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 2: I don't think it's upset special, but I think it's

2608
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot closer than we sing.

2609
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a good day for the Chiefs,

2610
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you why.

2611
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 2: The Chargers obviously lead the NFL in scoring defense about

2612
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 2: fifteen to sixteen points per game, and the first time

2613
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 2: they met this year was a seventeen to ten home loss. However,

2614
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: without the running back JK. Dobbins, I think it's gonna

2615
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 2: be a mccon McConkie. As you mentioned, not playing with

2616
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 2: that bad knee, it's going to be really difficult for

2617
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: the Charges to obtain any offensive strength today. I don't

2618
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: think they get it done. So I think Kansas City wins,

2619
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 2: and I think it's not going to be the nail

2620
01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 2: by that that it has been for the last several

2621
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 2: weeks for the Chiefs. I think the Kansas City Chiefs

2622
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 2: win rather easily today.

2623
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 4: The time is now, Andy, at some point there's a

2624
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 4: changing of the guard. At some point you have to

2625
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 4: hand over the torch and give it.

2626
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 5: To the other guy.

2627
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that it's the division, but I

2628
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 4: think today's today the Jim Harvar servs notice to the league.

2629
01:55:58,560 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 5: That the Chargers are on their way to come.

2630
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 4: I think they beat them. I think LA, I think

2631
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 4: LA serves them up. I think the Charges serve them up.

2632
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 4: On Sunday night we get to witness it. And it's

2633
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 4: going to be glorious for so many people that hate

2634
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 4: the Swifties.

2635
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 5: And the mahomes is.

2636
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 4: This is going to be a celebration tonight, a Sunday

2637
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 4: night celebration. A Sunday night saw ray to see the

2638
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 4: Charges a little coordination of Jim Harbaugh.

2639
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 9: I wonder if they're going to do any live look ins.

2640
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 9: Final show of the Eras tour from Vancouver tonight, Andy

2641
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 9: Furman went silent, like, why does Harmon know these things?

2642
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 9: What the hell is wrong with this guy? Follow the

2643
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 9: money is what we always say. If it don't make dollars,

2644
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 9: it don't make sense. And when it comes to the

2645
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 9: swifty world, we're talking two billion dollars. So yeah, you've

2646
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 9: got my rapt attention not to mention that I have

2647
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 9: two teenage daughters that will drag me along kicking and screaming,

2648
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 9: even if I am wearing a bedazzled hat and jacket

2649
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 9: at the concert.

2650
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: A right final game now, bengalsaid Cowboys.

2651
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 9: We talked about it earlier, a little bit from the

2652
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 9: just watching perspective. You've got the Bengals a five and

2653
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 9: a half point road favorite. Forty nine and.

2654
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 1: A half is your totals.

2655
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 9: So we'll get to see a lot of commentary from

2656
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 9: Homer Simpson and the cast of characters there and whatever

2657
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 9: they taped with the players, and the chaos that'll ensue.

2658
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow talked about it before.

2659
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 9: Nearly sixty eight percent completion rate, thirty touchdowns, five picks

2660
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 9: in about two hundred and eighty yards per game this

2661
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 9: year Cooper Russian Company. He's looked solid in spots right,

2662
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 9: He'll throw the ball around the yard, no conscience, why

2663
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 9: because he knows what he is at this point. Had

2664
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 9: that big game against Miami, another big one against Washington.

2665
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 9: Pretty muted in his other starts, but can't run the ball.

2666
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 9: No offensive efficiency. It's just a matter of can Joe

2667
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 9: Burrow and that offense continue at the clip that they're

2668
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 9: at averaging twenty eight.

2669
01:57:59,000 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

2670
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 9: They are at twenty seven point nine points scored per game,

2671
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 9: Cincinnati and Dallas both giving up twenty eight point three

2672
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 9: per game. Bucky, you're first on this one.

2673
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 4: This's good to Cincinnati Bengals. The bus to clock, it's

2674
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 4: been all good. I love Michael.

2675
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 5: Parsons, and everyone's saying, oh, we're about to make a run.

2676
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 5: But let's be honest. They're not gonna make a run.

2677
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 4: With Cooper Rush your quarterback, they're not going to be

2678
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 4: a big scored enough points, and defensively, they can't keep

2679
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 4: the score down. No one has slowed down the Cincinnati

2680
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 4: Bengals offensively. Why would the Cowboys be next? Give me

2681
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 4: the Bengals?

2682
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 5: Hooday? Who days listened to you?

2683
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 4: Bingals?

2684
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 3: Listen to you? Really?

2685
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 2: Hey, Look, the Bengals can't They can't get stops on defense,

2686
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 2: no doubt about. That's what they do. They outgun their opponent.

2687
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 2: They'll score, they'll score points. They may win something like

2688
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 2: forty one to thirty eight, but they're gonna win because

2689
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 2: they can't stop and they can't keep the other team's

2690
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 2: offense off the field. But with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase,

2691
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 2: they're at tandem. You look at this team, how many

2692
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 2: games they have lost by scoring twenty five or more points.

2693
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable.

2694
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 2: You look at this just the stats of the season result,

2695
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 2: it's twenty five plus per game and they've lost about

2696
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 2: four or five of those games.

2697
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, we'll go back to at the Giants

2698
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 9: when they won seventeen to seven. They could do that

2699
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 9: here because at the Cowboys, how many points are they

2700
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 9: really scoring? This might be actually lose. Swansong should carry

2701
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 9: him off the field when the defense holds a team

2702
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 9: under twenty five. Andy Furman, It's been a pleasure. Bucky

2703
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 9: Brooks and I are going to continue here for another hour.

2704
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 9: It's Week fourteen, winning time in your fantasy squads, and

2705
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 9: we'll talk more about the schedule ahead next time Fox. Criminality, precedents, chaos,

2706
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 9: all those words being used to describe the potential later

2707
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 9: on today as we get our first college football playoff

2708
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 9: field fully set, locked and loaded. No more politicking, no

2709
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:53,879
Speaker 9: more chaos. The committee in the room making the decision.

2710
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 9: We'll find out later on today while we enjoy a

2711
01:59:56,960 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 9: quasi full slate of NFL action, Welcome in to another

2712
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Speaker 9: our Foxfootball Sunday here live.

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Speaker 9: thank Andy Furman. He's done for today. He'll go off

2718
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Speaker 9: and he's got a lot of time to ponder the

2719
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bengals and their next steps here as they get

2720
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 9: ready for a Monday night date with the Cowboys. But

2721
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 9: with me still my god, Bucky Brooks. Each and every

2722
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 9: week we do this, an hour of fast pace going

2723
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 9: through a number of the big topics across the football

2724
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 9: landscape and sometimes the world at large. Bucky five years

2725
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Speaker 9: in the league, working with the Jaguars, coach, mentor columnist

2726
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Speaker 9: NFL dot com. A man who will get you on

2727
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Speaker 9: the right path. What else should I say? Anything else

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Speaker 9: you want on the resume?

2729
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Speaker 5: Not as more. That's more than enough, that's mord enough.

2730
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 4: Just make sure everyone reads the stuff like everyone talks

2731
02:00:57,120 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 4: about NFL dot com. But foxsports dot com also features

2732
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 4: a lot of my contents.

2733
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Speaker 1: There you go talking about that. Build it up.

2734
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Speaker 9: Foxsports dot com as well, we get some top fives

2735
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 9: and some great debate kind of conversations, and that's where

2736
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 9: we start. We'll get back into the NFL first. You know,

2737
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 9: the show's always changing, and certainly I wasn't in the

2738
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 9: seat with you the full morning here you and Andy

2739
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 9: doing the two hours, so I know your North Carolina

2740
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 9: tar heels had to come up at least a little

2741
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 9: bit with the rumor mirror, rumor mill hot and heavy

2742
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 9: after the firing of Mac Brown, to bring on potentially

2743
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:36,360
Speaker 9: Bill Belichick with an interview and a conversation. Everybody, well,

2744
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:40,640
Speaker 9: it's all for his son, et cetera. But I ask

2745
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 9: you this, and it's something we talked about a little

2746
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 9: bit during the week.

2747
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 1: Smith and I and Rich Ornberger joined us on Friday.

2748
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Speaker 9: Is the collegiate game maybe a little more equipped for

2749
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:54,400
Speaker 9: a guy like Belichick in this day and age than

2750
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 9: maybe it would have been five years.

2751
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:59,000
Speaker 4: Ago, maybe because at a time when everyone is wanting

2752
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,760
Speaker 4: in the college game, so college coach is the first

2753
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 4: time they've had to deal with let's say, salary cap

2754
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 4: and players making money and some player empowerment. Like you

2755
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 4: have these college coaches who's been lifers, who are.

2756
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 5: Having a tough time.

2757
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 4: I can't deal with hard, get out, can't get I

2758
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 4: can't control.

2759
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 5: The way I gotta go.

2760
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:18,200
Speaker 4: Whereas for Bill Belichick, that's what he's always dealt with.

2761
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,080
Speaker 4: And if you actually think about it, the players that

2762
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 4: he would coach from eighteen to twenty two, there's still

2763
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 4: a purity about teaching young people how to play the game.

2764
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 5: He may, as a coach who.

2765
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:33,360
Speaker 4: Has always been able to find wins in the margins,

2766
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:36,280
Speaker 4: he may see something in the college game that he

2767
02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 4: is like, look, if I go to the college game

2768
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 4: and we do X, Y and Z, we can win

2769
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:41,240
Speaker 4: and win for a long time.

2770
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Speaker 5: Maybe that's it.

2771
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 4: He has conversations with Nick sib and he's seen how

2772
02:02:45,280 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 4: his colleague, his buddy.

2773
02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 5: Has been able to dominate. It was able to dominate

2774
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:49,920
Speaker 5: at Alabama.

2775
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Speaker 4: He has another mentee in Bill O'Brien, who's right there

2776
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 4: in Boston College.

2777
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 5: He jumps right in.

2778
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:59,800
Speaker 4: He has that team and that program trending the right way.

2779
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 4: Why not, because look, the notion of college football being amateur,

2780
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 4: that's a policy. It's no longer that it's minor league football,

2781
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:11,080
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. It's a version of

2782
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:14,000
Speaker 4: pro football that's not quite the big leagues. If he

2783
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 4: goes and has a plan, which he always will, why

2784
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 4: wouldn't he be able to do it? And I'll say

2785
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 4: this because everyone talks about the age and connection of players,

2786
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 4: here's what we do know. Players will listen to coaches

2787
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 4: who can help them get to where they want to go.

2788
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 4: So if their goal is to get to the next level,

2789
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 4: to play in the NFL level, who better to do

2790
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 4: it than someone who has won? However many six, seven,

2791
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 4: how many Super Bowls he's won during his time? Why

2792
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 4: not embrace that? And then the energy.

2793
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:40,960
Speaker 5: Part of it.

2794
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,040
Speaker 4: Look, if he's smart, he's going to hire a staff

2795
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:45,400
Speaker 4: that's full of the energetic guys. I saw Bobby Bout

2796
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 4: walk the sidelines when he was older, how which Joe

2797
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 4: Perturno on some other guys walked the sideline when they

2798
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 4: were older. So even as he shifts to emeritus status,

2799
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 4: he still can get it done because he'll set the

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Speaker 4: program in the structure.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure it could.

2802
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 9: Work because you're talking eight super Bowl rings right, two

2803
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 9: with the Giants and six with the Pats, so certainly there.

2804
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 9: I just look at it from the delegation side of it, right,

2805
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 9: and structure and approach to your point about salary cap

2806
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 9: at il whatever. It's not like he's gonna have to

2807
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 9: be hugely hands on. Certainly you're gonna have to be

2808
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:19,680
Speaker 9: the closer on some of these calls. I'd love to

2809
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 9: see him in the living rooms because you mentioned Nick Saban.

2810
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 9: One of the great memes that we get is when

2811
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:27,919
Speaker 9: he was doing the slide and everything with the recruits families.

2812
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 1: So if we get you.

2813
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 4: Know, I mean, you know what hills Veelichick. Now he

2814
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 4: has a a I can't call a significant other, a partner,

2815
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 4: a friend, a close friend who may be more relatable

2816
02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 4: to today's players.

2817
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:43,800
Speaker 1: But that's just it, right, You've got the case she

2818
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 1: your people.

2819
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 4: Yes, she might help him get a lot, that's right.

2820
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Speaker 4: And so when you say he can't relate, seems like

2821
02:04:50,360 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 4: he's relating pretty well.

2822
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:55,600
Speaker 9: Seems seems like it's working on right there. Do with

2823
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 9: it what you will, America and the globe beyond. As

2824
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:02,280
Speaker 9: we're on four of us affiliates, the iHeartRadio app take

2825
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 9: us with you as you get about on a Sunday.

2826
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 9: All right, So the college football playoff thing gets a little. Uh,

2827
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:10,280
Speaker 9: it's been fun the last week, right because a lot

2828
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 9: of politicking and what about our resume. A lot of

2829
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 9: teams and coaches just pointing to, hey, we won our games,

2830
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:23,320
Speaker 9: you lost yours, which valid particularly when we talk about

2831
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 9: you know, guys like Dan Lanning, and that's it's easy

2832
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:28,440
Speaker 9: to do. When you're the number one team in the

2833
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 9: land forty five thirty seven, your final, you take care

2834
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:34,760
Speaker 9: of it. James Franklin's more worried about the the band

2835
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 9: after the game than anything else.

2836
02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:39,160
Speaker 1: Right the they were firing up.

2837
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:41,040
Speaker 9: The Oregon band next to where they were and he

2838
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 9: started calling us all JV and bush league or whatever.

2839
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 9: It's like, Yeah, if it was your band, you'd be like,

2840
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 9: you'd be out there as the band leader. So you know,

2841
02:05:49,240 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 9: you just need to He's angry. He's angry, so angry,

2842
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 9: he's so angry. He gets no love, right, they don't.

2843
02:05:57,080 --> 02:06:00,440
Speaker 4: You're right though, he's I would say he is underpreciated

2844
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:02,280
Speaker 4: for the job that he's done f n State and

2845
02:06:02,320 --> 02:06:04,320
Speaker 4: even to a less degree, the job that he did

2846
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 4: in Vanderbilt.

2847
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:06,440
Speaker 5: So he is underrated.

2848
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 4: They do hold him to a standard word looker and

2849
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:09,920
Speaker 4: you got to beat some of these top five teams.

2850
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he has a little edge about him.

2851
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 4: Where he's always he's always angry. He's always the guy

2852
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,200
Speaker 4: that kind of comes outside, like in the neighborhood that

2853
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:18,959
Speaker 4: just looks.

2854
02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 5: Around, like, what's that noise?

2855
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 4: Who's making all this noise in the culta sac you know.

2856
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 5: Like all the other stuff.

2857
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:24,920
Speaker 4: You know.

2858
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 9: So that's that's all three and eighteen against top ten opponents.

2859
02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's that's valid.

2860
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 9: I mean not that every many coaching and administrations are

2861
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:38,720
Speaker 9: going to have great records in those circumstances, Bucky, But

2862
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:40,760
Speaker 9: in the end, you gotta break through. It's kind of

2863
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 9: the conversation. It's really just in parallel with what we've

2864
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 9: talked about with Ryan Day. You can do all sorts

2865
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:47,720
Speaker 9: of great things. Ryan Day could win the national title

2866
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 9: this year, and there's still going to be the you

2867
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 9: lost to Michigan crowd amongst the boosters. That's just the

2868
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:57,000
Speaker 9: reality of college football. And for James Franklin much the same.

2869
02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 9: When you get into these big game scenarios and and

2870
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:03,600
Speaker 9: the things that you purport to do well fall apart,

2871
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 9: and in this case, you know, you get forty five

2872
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 9: hung on you.

2873
02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 4: Again.

2874
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:10,520
Speaker 9: Whatever your offense did, it's all fine and good. It's

2875
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:13,480
Speaker 9: still a giant l at the end. Like Dan Lanning.

2876
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 9: You know, his message to it all was just win,

2877
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:18,040
Speaker 9: Just win. They can't deny you if you just win.

2878
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 9: You can't complain it if you just win. Again easy

2879
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 9: to say when you're the number one squad, but it

2880
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 9: echoes really just the basis of all of it. You know,

2881
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:30,480
Speaker 9: the Al Davis motto from all those years ago. Just win, baby,

2882
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:33,520
Speaker 9: and don't leave it to the judges. Right, we joke

2883
02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 9: about it with boxing and MMA and all of those things.

2884
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:42,080
Speaker 9: Soccer leaving it to one play with a referee or

2885
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 9: penalty kicks or the dubious world that is the two

2886
02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 9: point conversion fest of a college football game.

2887
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 1: Never let it go to that. Take care of your business.

2888
02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 4: Don't let it go to the cards. And so you

2889
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 4: do have to take care of business. And there are

2890
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 4: a lot of teams who had opportunities to take your

2891
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,960
Speaker 4: business throughout the course of the season who did not,

2892
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 4: And they're there winding and crying and complaining. And the

2893
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:10,120
Speaker 4: biggest debate that we had in the first hour, and

2894
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:13,240
Speaker 4: he's adamant about Alabama getting in. But he's adamant about

2895
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:16,720
Speaker 4: Alabama getting in over Miami, which I don't necessarily have

2896
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 4: an issue with the issue that I would have.

2897
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 5: Is now that SMU has lost to Clemson.

2898
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 4: And it drops them down, Alabama cannot go in over

2899
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 4: SMU because SMU played a bonus game that Alabama did

2900
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 4: not earn the right to play in the championship. If

2901
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 4: the season ended before the championship games, SMU gets in

2902
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:37,120
Speaker 4: and maybe Alabama doesn't.

2903
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 5: But now that they played that extra.

2904
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 4: Game, you shouldn't provide Alabama an opportunity to move up

2905
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:45,080
Speaker 4: when they didn't play. They didn't do anything differently to

2906
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:47,840
Speaker 4: earn their way into the tournament. If they get bumped

2907
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 4: down because SMU lost, then so what don't lose three games?

2908
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:57,040
Speaker 4: You can't complain, But it'd be a bad precedent if SMU.

2909
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:57,880
Speaker 5: Who has led to acc.

2910
02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:01,400
Speaker 4: The entire year, is eliminated from the playoff because they

2911
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 4: lose in a championship game and Alabama hasn't played one.

2912
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2913
02:09:04,840 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 9: I was part of Rhett Lashley's discussion points over the

2914
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:10,840
Speaker 9: course of the week, and then certainly after the thirty

2915
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:14,240
Speaker 9: four to thirty one loss to Clemson. Clemson rising through

2916
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 9: the ashes and Dabo Swinny remember how defiant he was

2917
02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 9: about the portal and everything else. In the end, he

2918
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:25,200
Speaker 9: gets the spoils with the big victory. But I still

2919
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 9: don't know that that's sustainable. But for this year it

2920
02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:28,160
Speaker 9: worked in his.

2921
02:09:28,160 --> 02:09:30,720
Speaker 4: Visin the only thing, the only thing, The only thing

2922
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 4: I'll say about Dabbo and the Portal and why I

2923
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 4: can work for him and Georgia has been able to

2924
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:40,840
Speaker 4: do it. There is a level of consistency that you

2925
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:43,800
Speaker 4: get when your team is homegrown. Many you recruit, you develop,

2926
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:45,880
Speaker 4: you get that now they are able to recruit at

2927
02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:48,280
Speaker 4: a higher level that some other teams can't, right because

2928
02:09:48,280 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 4: they're an established power or whatever. When you are in

2929
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:54,680
Speaker 4: the portal, let's think about everyone who jumps into portal.

2930
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 4: The overwhelming majority of the portal is full of guys

2931
02:09:58,120 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 4: who are unhappy with their current situation.

2932
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:01,080
Speaker 5: So now what.

2933
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 4: Happens when you take them on? You take on those problems,

2934
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,760
Speaker 4: and if it doesn't go well right away, i e.

2935
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 4: Florida State, it can fall apart because you got a

2936
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:12,000
Speaker 4: bunch of crabs in the barrel that are not happy.

2937
02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:16,400
Speaker 4: So I understand why he's anti portal, even though I

2938
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:19,080
Speaker 4: think if used right, it can be a nice supplementation

2939
02:10:19,280 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 4: to a roster build that is homegrown and organic.

2940
02:10:22,760 --> 02:10:27,440
Speaker 9: Certainly, the positives of the portal and when you do

2941
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:29,800
Speaker 9: have the blue chips, because let's face it, there are

2942
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:32,880
Speaker 9: guys that just want to get paid and find their

2943
02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:35,960
Speaker 9: way into a better situation where the money's flowing. I

2944
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 9: mean to look at my Wildcats this week, Bucky. I

2945
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:41,880
Speaker 9: don't know if you saw their presser, and we got

2946
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:45,280
Speaker 9: twenty guys not a single dime of nil, to which

2947
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:47,680
Speaker 9: I respond, that's not something I would be bragging about.

2948
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:51,879
Speaker 9: As your top offensive and defensive players leave, including Alignment

2949
02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 9: who's probably gonna end up playing against you at Ohio State.

2950
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:56,920
Speaker 9: So you have that flowing in there. And I would

2951
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 9: love to see Dabbo and fran Brown. I would love

2952
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:01,720
Speaker 9: to see this love fest that they've had these last

2953
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:02,240
Speaker 9: couple of weeks.

2954
02:11:02,360 --> 02:11:02,920
Speaker 4: Hilarious.

2955
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, once they're back on the recruiting trails, because that's

2956
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:07,600
Speaker 9: what fran Brown does.

2957
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, that is what he does, and he is

2958
02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 4: great at the recruiting piece.

2959
02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:14,000
Speaker 5: And look, it's funny that he.

2960
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 4: Shouted out Dabbo and Dabbo was able to reply because

2961
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:18,560
Speaker 4: he did save Dabbo an opportunity to get back into

2962
02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:22,040
Speaker 4: the a SEC Championship game. The nil thing, I think

2963
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:24,720
Speaker 4: is still something that you have to soar through because

2964
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily mad at your Northwestern Wildcast when it

2965
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 4: comes to nil, because a lot of these things, like

2966
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:35,400
Speaker 4: you still would like to believe and look, you're at

2967
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 4: Northwestern grad. I would like to think that you would

2968
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:43,560
Speaker 4: say that that university is transformational when it comes to

2969
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 4: I go there for my four or five years, the

2970
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:49,240
Speaker 4: things that I learned, the people that I meet, transform

2971
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 4: my life for the better, not a transactional situation where

2972
02:11:53,800 --> 02:11:56,080
Speaker 4: I pay them, they pay me, we get through it

2973
02:11:56,440 --> 02:12:00,000
Speaker 4: and whatever. There's still something that's icky about that part.

2974
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 4: All right of it. However, I would say that you're

2975
02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:06,080
Speaker 4: another Western wildcast. They can incentivize players, they can pay

2976
02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 4: them along the way. I just don't think this should

2977
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 4: be the first offering when someone comes like how much.

2978
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:11,600
Speaker 5: You gonna pay me?

2979
02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:13,840
Speaker 4: Like I would always sure you want to come to

2980
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:16,680
Speaker 4: my school to learn something, not just to have your

2981
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 4: handout to take cash.

2982
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:19,400
Speaker 1: Still got to be a base.

2983
02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:20,840
Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, if you're gonna

2984
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:23,320
Speaker 9: still be in the big ten, you gotta play by

2985
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,360
Speaker 9: the rules of engagement. Otherwise you're going to be in

2986
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 9: the are we really gonna get relegated situation? Which you know,

2987
02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 9: was the joke for a couple of years as all

2988
02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:36,920
Speaker 9: these Pac twelve schools started to invade the conference and

2989
02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 9: look at Oregon wins in year one.

2990
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:42,160
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks on Mike Carmen. We're just getting warmed

2991
02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 1: up here.

2992
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:46,240
Speaker 9: It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio Live fromthty rack

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02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:49,120
Speaker 9: dot Com studios at Bucky Brooks where you find them

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02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 9: Fox sports dot COMNFL dot Com, and of course working

2995
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:55,040
Speaker 9: with the Jaguars later on today.

2996
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 1: Is They've got a date with the Titans.

2997
02:12:57,440 --> 02:12:59,920
Speaker 9: And you find me over at Swollendome at Mike Harmon

2998
02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:02,920
Speaker 9: Blue Sky. I got my own name there. Eventually I'll

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Speaker 9: start posting all sorts of chaotic things. Well, because there's

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02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:08,880
Speaker 9: a NASCAR Truck Series guy that had my name when

3001
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:09,520
Speaker 9: I went into the.

3002
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:11,360
Speaker 1: Twitter verse all those years ago.

3003
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:13,440
Speaker 9: Every once in a while, I get dragged for some

3004
02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:15,680
Speaker 9: of the things that happened in that garage. I'll let

3005
02:13:15,720 --> 02:13:17,280
Speaker 9: you all look that up online.

3006
02:13:17,480 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 1: He's Bucky on Mike.

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02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:21,880
Speaker 9: We continue Week fourteen of the NFL bore Discussion next

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02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,640
Speaker 9: here on Fox. I always hear those bells and wait

3009
02:13:24,680 --> 02:13:28,720
Speaker 9: for some giant, sinister laugh and a big guitar Riff

3010
02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 9: and then Mariah sings to me, Bucky, because it's only

3011
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:34,560
Speaker 9: to me. Had Bucky Brooks where you find him on Twitter.

3012
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:36,720
Speaker 9: I'm Mike Carbon, Thanks for hanging out with us. It's

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Speaker 9: Fox Football Sunday here at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Six teams on the by.

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Speaker 9: You know I feel about these scheduling things here, Bucky

3016
02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 9: week fourteen. If you've been able to survive, now you

3017
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 9: get to sit back and chill at the playoff stretch

3018
02:13:54,200 --> 02:14:00,640
Speaker 9: runs beginning here Denver, Indianapolis, New England, Washington, Baltimore and

3019
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:04,480
Speaker 9: and yes, most of those teams still have some playoff aspirations.

3020
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,240
Speaker 9: I know, Patriots fans, it's an odd place for you

3021
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:09,360
Speaker 9: all to be in. You still have an opportunity to

3022
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:12,440
Speaker 9: play some spoiler here in the final weeks. For Richardson

3023
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:16,960
Speaker 9: and the Colts still you know, the shoestring kind of thing,

3024
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:19,960
Speaker 9: but overall trying to get some growth. But for those

3025
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:24,680
Speaker 9: other squads still playoff implications. For Baltimore, Lucky, Let's start

3026
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:27,560
Speaker 9: there when you look at Justin Tucker and the year

3027
02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:30,920
Speaker 9: that has been as loyal as you want to be,

3028
02:14:31,080 --> 02:14:33,560
Speaker 9: the guys that have been there, tried and true, and

3029
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:37,240
Speaker 9: their histories, and I mean, the guy's a legend for

3030
02:14:37,400 --> 02:14:40,480
Speaker 9: crying out loud there in Baltimore. But right now it's

3031
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:45,480
Speaker 9: it's costing them immensely game after game because you know,

3032
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:48,000
Speaker 9: we know the games are played in the margins in

3033
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:51,000
Speaker 9: the National Football League and not having a guy that

3034
02:14:51,040 --> 02:14:54,120
Speaker 9: you can rely on is immense in the final weeks

3035
02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,400
Speaker 9: and certainly come the playoffs given their history.

3036
02:14:57,600 --> 02:14:58,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something that they have to fix.

3037
02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 4: And it's one of the things that you know, ever

3038
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:02,800
Speaker 4: thought it about being an issue for the Baltimore Ravens.

3039
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:04,800
Speaker 4: John harb has always had to lust. You're knowing he

3040
02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:06,320
Speaker 4: had the best kicker on the field and he could

3041
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:09,000
Speaker 4: count on his skicker to come through whenever they got

3042
02:15:09,040 --> 02:15:11,600
Speaker 4: to a certain point in the field. That's no longer true.

3043
02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:13,640
Speaker 4: And with that not being true, it changed the way

3044
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:15,400
Speaker 4: that you have to call plays. It changed the way

3045
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 4: that you attack and do things. And you know, the

3046
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:23,960
Speaker 4: Ravens are maddenly inconsistent anyway, right Like it's a team

3047
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:25,120
Speaker 4: that is super talented.

3048
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:26,760
Speaker 5: We can say that they have the talent.

3049
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 4: To be amongst the best, if not the best team

3050
02:15:29,600 --> 02:15:31,720
Speaker 4: in the league. They just for whatever reason, don't play

3051
02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:35,080
Speaker 4: like that consistently. If justin Tucker is not able to

3052
02:15:35,160 --> 02:15:39,160
Speaker 4: kind of right his wrongs or fix the things that

3053
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:42,480
Speaker 4: are impacting his kicking. Man, do they go and get

3054
02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:44,720
Speaker 4: one off the street if you bring another one in,

3055
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:46,520
Speaker 4: do you do you look to Tucker? Do you look

3056
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:48,960
Speaker 4: to him? That is a tough thing, and it's something

3057
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:50,960
Speaker 4: that they never had to deal with. I appreciate and

3058
02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:55,480
Speaker 4: respect the loyalty, But another week or so, you may

3059
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:57,640
Speaker 4: have to make a hard decision to bring somebody else

3060
02:15:57,680 --> 02:15:59,120
Speaker 4: in that can fix some of the stuff that's going

3061
02:15:59,120 --> 02:15:59,960
Speaker 4: on in their kicking game.

3062
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:04,000
Speaker 9: Because we look down this schedule here, we know backloaded

3063
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:07,040
Speaker 9: with some heavyweights, still have two more divisional games. You

3064
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:09,880
Speaker 9: got a home game against Pittsburgh, a home game against Cleveland,

3065
02:16:10,440 --> 02:16:14,440
Speaker 9: and those are odd even kind of weeks with dates

3066
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:17,600
Speaker 9: at the Giants and at Houston. So you know, in

3067
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:20,280
Speaker 9: Cleveland with Jamis Winston, you don't know what you're gonna get.

3068
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:22,520
Speaker 9: Your defense is no good, so he can go out

3069
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:24,520
Speaker 9: there and wing it around if he's healthy. In that

3070
02:16:24,600 --> 02:16:27,080
Speaker 9: final week of the season when you're still you know,

3071
02:16:27,200 --> 02:16:30,960
Speaker 9: battling maybe for the division against Pittsburgh and all of

3072
02:16:31,000 --> 02:16:33,800
Speaker 9: that to say, I mean, you're twenty third in total defense,

3073
02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:38,039
Speaker 9: say what you will about Justin Tucker's struggles defensively. You know,

3074
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:41,360
Speaker 9: I do regular spots in Baltimore, And they were talking

3075
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 9: even in the preseasons, like we want to see if

3076
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:46,440
Speaker 9: we actually have one good cornerback, let alone two.

3077
02:16:47,320 --> 02:16:48,480
Speaker 1: We're not even talking depth.

3078
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:51,360
Speaker 9: We're just talking starters right off the jump, of guys

3079
02:16:51,360 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 9: that are going to be able to stay with the teams.

3080
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:53,360
Speaker 3: One.

3081
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's been a tough time, tough sledding for

3082
02:16:57,440 --> 02:17:00,959
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens. And offensive leader's good as anybody. They

3083
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:02,880
Speaker 4: can control the game with the offense. They can run

3084
02:17:02,920 --> 02:17:04,120
Speaker 4: it and slow it down. They can do it with

3085
02:17:04,160 --> 02:17:06,680
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, they have weapons on the outside.

3086
02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:07,360
Speaker 5: All of that.

3087
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:11,400
Speaker 4: Stuff works, but two areas impact them. Defense and kicking game.

3088
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:14,720
Speaker 4: And old college coach used to always say, you got

3089
02:17:14,720 --> 02:17:18,440
Speaker 4: to win two out of three other phases to win games. Offense, defense,

3090
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:22,240
Speaker 4: special teams, whatever. To two of those you have to win,

3091
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:25,680
Speaker 4: and they're struggling in two areas. The thing that gives

3092
02:17:25,720 --> 02:17:27,360
Speaker 4: you hope is that this is a team that has

3093
02:17:27,879 --> 02:17:30,680
Speaker 4: always been able to kind of find their way fix

3094
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:34,240
Speaker 4: it when it comes to money.

3095
02:17:33,959 --> 02:17:35,840
Speaker 5: Time, and it's money time with the last part of

3096
02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:36,280
Speaker 5: the season.

3097
02:17:36,560 --> 02:17:40,760
Speaker 4: They need to fix it, and superhero Lamar Jackson can

3098
02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:42,760
Speaker 4: do his part on offense, but defensively and in the

3099
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:44,760
Speaker 4: kicking in the kind of get a results.

3100
02:17:44,760 --> 02:17:47,000
Speaker 9: It's one of those I heard you in Andy as

3101
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:50,720
Speaker 9: I was speeding in I mean driving in this morning

3102
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:53,600
Speaker 9: to the Fox Sports radio studios here on the highways

3103
02:17:53,600 --> 02:17:58,560
Speaker 9: and byways, you know where it really maybe philosophically.

3104
02:17:57,760 --> 02:17:59,000
Speaker 1: You've got to lean into that.

3105
02:17:59,080 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 9: Derrick Henry Lamar Jackson planned run, attack and steal another

3106
02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:07,959
Speaker 9: three or four minutes of time of possession based on

3107
02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:11,040
Speaker 9: what your defense can't do. And I mean we talked

3108
02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:14,000
Speaker 9: about the drives and what a cheat code kickers have

3109
02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:17,640
Speaker 9: been for most teams this year. As you said, I mean,

3110
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:20,680
Speaker 9: you're usually at such an advantage, so to have that

3111
02:18:20,720 --> 02:18:23,959
Speaker 9: taken away, it's got to change everything you're doing offensively

3112
02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:27,280
Speaker 9: as well in terms of the structure and you know,

3113
02:18:27,320 --> 02:18:30,520
Speaker 9: your play calling in grid as to how you're trying

3114
02:18:30,520 --> 02:18:35,240
Speaker 9: to build out a possession, whereas so many other teams

3115
02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:36,760
Speaker 9: have the a I got a guy that can be

3116
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:40,039
Speaker 9: super toe from fifty five, let's go, well.

3117
02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you think about that just so just think

3118
02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:44,760
Speaker 4: about the scoring zone and that so if super tow

3119
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:47,720
Speaker 4: is what fifty five yards, that means you just have

3120
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:50,480
Speaker 4: to get the ball to the thirty eight yard line. Yeah,

3121
02:18:50,720 --> 02:18:53,720
Speaker 4: and if most drafts started to thirty five, you don't

3122
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:57,199
Speaker 4: have four to go, you know, to move it down

3123
02:18:57,240 --> 02:18:59,840
Speaker 4: the field. And it changes everything. It changes the way

3124
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:01,480
Speaker 4: to you call plays. It changed the way that you

3125
02:19:01,600 --> 02:19:05,120
Speaker 4: sequenced your calls based upon knowing where we are on

3126
02:19:05,160 --> 02:19:07,640
Speaker 4: the field. Do we need to be more conservative, do

3127
02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:09,680
Speaker 4: we need to dial it back? We have sure points,

3128
02:19:09,879 --> 02:19:12,160
Speaker 4: so it's not that big of a deal. If we

3129
02:19:12,520 --> 02:19:15,480
Speaker 4: throw it and it's incomplete, it doesn't matter. Just Tucker

3130
02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:18,280
Speaker 4: is good from this distance. It changes everything. Now you

3131
02:19:18,280 --> 02:19:20,240
Speaker 4: want to get a little closer a instead of being

3132
02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:23,160
Speaker 4: at the thirty eight, maybe let's try and get it

3133
02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:26,920
Speaker 4: to the twenty twenty five. So now my calls are

3134
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,959
Speaker 4: a little different. Yes, it's a huge issue, and it

3135
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:34,240
Speaker 4: looks it's crummy to see sometimes like our favorite players,

3136
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:36,800
Speaker 4: because I advocated it for him being MVP one time

3137
02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:39,240
Speaker 4: because he was so good a couple of seasons ago.

3138
02:19:40,520 --> 02:19:42,520
Speaker 4: Let's see if he can fix It'd be a big

3139
02:19:42,560 --> 02:19:43,160
Speaker 4: test for him.

3140
02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:47,520
Speaker 9: Baltimore twelfth in the league. Time of possession at thirty

3141
02:19:47,560 --> 02:19:51,039
Speaker 9: minutes thirty one second. By way of contrast, the number

3142
02:19:51,080 --> 02:19:53,760
Speaker 9: one team in the game is Pittsburgh at just shy

3143
02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:55,879
Speaker 9: of thirty three minutes per game.

3144
02:19:56,520 --> 02:19:58,879
Speaker 1: So they're on a buy. They'll see what they can fix.

3145
02:19:59,360 --> 02:20:01,879
Speaker 9: I know they had a bunch of veteran kickers in

3146
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:05,520
Speaker 9: for the workouts this week, so we'll see what's happening there.

3147
02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:08,279
Speaker 9: One of the teams on the by that's really interesting

3148
02:20:08,280 --> 02:20:10,240
Speaker 9: to me, wanted to get your take of where they

3149
02:20:10,280 --> 02:20:12,800
Speaker 9: sit as we get to this final quarter of the

3150
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:16,440
Speaker 9: season is the Denver Broncos and the job Sean Payton

3151
02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:20,120
Speaker 9: bow Nicks and what they've been able to do. Certainly

3152
02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:22,400
Speaker 9: the second half of the year. They rode the defense

3153
02:20:22,520 --> 02:20:25,720
Speaker 9: early and Certan is everything he was billed to be

3154
02:20:26,640 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 9: and then some. But watching Nicks as a runner and

3155
02:20:30,720 --> 02:20:33,120
Speaker 9: growing into the role. There was the last game that

3156
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:35,600
Speaker 9: played that dart down the field when we're seeing them

3157
02:20:35,640 --> 02:20:39,520
Speaker 9: winging the ball all over the place, just insane. Courtland

3158
02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:43,640
Speaker 9: Sutton a guy that was in trade rumors in the

3159
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:48,320
Speaker 9: off season crazy, which is crazy, right, and now you

3160
02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:51,400
Speaker 9: see what he's become for this squad. But what's the

3161
02:20:51,440 --> 02:20:54,880
Speaker 9: ceiling on their their run in what is seemingly a

3162
02:20:54,879 --> 02:20:56,120
Speaker 9: pretty wide open field.

3163
02:20:57,120 --> 02:21:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty wide open field. It comes down to matchups, right.

3164
02:21:02,080 --> 02:21:04,879
Speaker 4: The team is dangerous because defensively they can get after right,

3165
02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:06,440
Speaker 4: they can dial it up like vance.

3166
02:21:06,520 --> 02:21:08,680
Speaker 5: Joseph has not found a blitz that he doesn't like.

3167
02:21:08,920 --> 02:21:10,760
Speaker 4: They have cover guys on the back end that can

3168
02:21:10,800 --> 02:21:12,760
Speaker 4: hold up in man the man coverage, So they're gonna

3169
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:15,560
Speaker 4: come after you with relentless pressure. We've seen how that

3170
02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:18,000
Speaker 4: pressure translates in the turnovers. Go back and look at

3171
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:20,039
Speaker 4: Monday Night Jameis Winston and those things.

3172
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:21,280
Speaker 5: Offensively.

3173
02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:24,880
Speaker 4: Every week, bow Nicks is growing, and bow Nicks is

3174
02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:27,440
Speaker 4: becoming a mini Drew Brees, not the same talent, but

3175
02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:29,520
Speaker 4: becoming a mini Drew Brees in terms of how he

3176
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:33,280
Speaker 4: commands the offense that Sean Payton runs. Takes care of

3177
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:37,200
Speaker 4: the ball, low turnovers, athletic enough to make things happen

3178
02:21:37,240 --> 02:21:39,840
Speaker 4: when he gets outside of the pocket, quick rhythm, pass

3179
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:44,160
Speaker 4: it with accuracy, just enough to make it like.

3180
02:21:45,520 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 5: Difficult for the opposing defense.

3181
02:21:48,120 --> 02:21:50,119
Speaker 4: This team is good because if they get the game

3182
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:53,400
Speaker 4: on their term, Sean Payton knows how to drain the clock.

3183
02:21:53,440 --> 02:21:55,240
Speaker 4: He knows how to speed it up. He's been in

3184
02:21:55,320 --> 02:22:01,200
Speaker 4: so many games. As an experienced head coach, he knows

3185
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:01,879
Speaker 4: how to kind of.

3186
02:22:01,879 --> 02:22:03,480
Speaker 5: Craft winning game plans.

3187
02:22:04,040 --> 02:22:05,800
Speaker 4: They're not a team that you really want to face

3188
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:08,760
Speaker 4: Man just because he's so good as a puppeteer, and

3189
02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:11,560
Speaker 4: they have enough talent just enough to knock you off

3190
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:12,879
Speaker 4: if you don't bring your a game.

3191
02:22:13,240 --> 02:22:15,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, big thing for that squad is they do need

3192
02:22:15,600 --> 02:22:17,840
Speaker 9: to at some point find that running back and then

3193
02:22:17,879 --> 02:22:20,600
Speaker 9: it just bounces so much. But something we talked about

3194
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:24,040
Speaker 9: with Andy last hour, Bucky just talking about the quarterback

3195
02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:28,080
Speaker 9: position and development and all of those kind of things.

3196
02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:30,400
Speaker 9: It's another example of a guy with an awful lot

3197
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:34,200
Speaker 9: of college starts and opportunities before he took a snap

3198
02:22:34,240 --> 02:22:37,080
Speaker 9: of NFL football, and you can see the vast difference

3199
02:22:37,080 --> 02:22:39,600
Speaker 9: and how quickly that learning curve was accelerated.

3200
02:22:40,520 --> 02:22:42,039
Speaker 4: It seems like that's gonna be a thing that we

3201
02:22:42,080 --> 02:22:43,800
Speaker 4: have to talk about a lot. Right When you look

3202
02:22:43,800 --> 02:22:45,880
Speaker 4: at the guys that were very experienced coming into it,

3203
02:22:45,879 --> 02:22:49,000
Speaker 4: they've shown a lot. They've been very consistent throughout their

3204
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:52,760
Speaker 4: play this season. Jayden Daniels and Bownecks represent that. Considering

3205
02:22:52,760 --> 02:22:56,400
Speaker 4: how many stars both of those guys had as older players.

3206
02:22:56,879 --> 02:22:59,400
Speaker 4: Younger players is more volatile when it comes to it,

3207
02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:02,000
Speaker 4: you still learn. Everyone's learning and adapting to the pro game.

3208
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:06,080
Speaker 4: But the reps matter. Reps matter at any level, and

3209
02:23:06,200 --> 02:23:08,800
Speaker 4: the guys who are getting significant reps are having more success.

3210
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:10,400
Speaker 5: Asked me something that you follow.

3211
02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:13,840
Speaker 9: He's Bucky Brooks up by Carmen here from the Tirak

3212
02:23:13,879 --> 02:23:17,240
Speaker 9: dot com. Fox Sports Radio Studios. It's Fox Football Sunday.

3213
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:19,120
Speaker 9: Now it's time to bring in a man. He's going

3214
02:23:19,160 --> 02:23:21,120
Speaker 9: to be part of the coverage on the big game

3215
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:24,879
Speaker 9: later on tonight, and he's growing the beard so he

3216
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:28,520
Speaker 9: can watch stroke the beard like a movie villain. It's

3217
02:23:28,560 --> 02:23:31,360
Speaker 9: our guy, Isaac Low and craw what's going on?

3218
02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:31,720
Speaker 1: Illow?

3219
02:23:31,840 --> 02:23:33,320
Speaker 3: Good morning, Mike and Bucky.

3220
02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:36,680
Speaker 10: And speaking of various physical attributes, So I'd like to

3221
02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:40,000
Speaker 10: take this opportunity to publicly announce that I did offer

3222
02:23:40,280 --> 02:23:45,000
Speaker 10: my knee and shoulder to the Chargers to graft onto

3223
02:23:45,240 --> 02:23:49,720
Speaker 10: Ladmaconkie to sure his availability for tonight's game. And the

3224
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:53,600
Speaker 10: Chargers responded, and I quote, I think we're good.

3225
02:23:53,840 --> 02:23:54,240
Speaker 3: We're good.

3226
02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:57,760
Speaker 9: You got any friends, Gus you worked over in that

3227
02:23:57,840 --> 02:23:59,920
Speaker 9: Fox Sports radio world, you got, you got a couple

3228
02:23:59,959 --> 02:24:01,120
Speaker 9: of x NFL guys.

3229
02:24:01,320 --> 02:24:02,879
Speaker 1: Bucky, how's the knee and shoulder.

3230
02:24:02,920 --> 02:24:05,800
Speaker 4: You can give you one h ooh no no, no, no, no,

3231
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:08,879
Speaker 4: we have to pass. Nope, my left shoulder and my

3232
02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:13,240
Speaker 4: left kneed could not do lab McConkey yeah to go elsewhere.

3233
02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:15,959
Speaker 9: I wish they had to go through the operation wacky

3234
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:17,480
Speaker 9: doctors game with him their eye log.

3235
02:24:17,560 --> 02:24:20,760
Speaker 10: I wish I had sent him him, meaning you bucky

3236
02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:24,039
Speaker 10: holiday treats in the past, so you would only won.

3237
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:27,000
Speaker 10: But unfortunately I was not that generous. We had a

3238
02:24:27,080 --> 02:24:29,600
Speaker 10: generous serving of college football. On Saturday night of the

3239
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:32,680
Speaker 10: Big Ten Championship Game, Number one, Oregon defeated third ranked

3240
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:34,560
Speaker 10: Penn State forty five to thirty seven.

3241
02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:36,000
Speaker 7: Tom moved to thirteen and ero.

3242
02:24:36,200 --> 02:24:40,320
Speaker 10: In the ACC Championship Game, Number seventeen, Clemson and eighth

3243
02:24:40,400 --> 02:24:44,240
Speaker 10: ranked SMU were tied at thirty one in the final seconds,

3244
02:24:44,440 --> 02:24:49,480
Speaker 10: and Clemson freshman placekicker Nolan Hawser attempting a fifty six

3245
02:24:49,560 --> 02:24:52,959
Speaker 10: yard field goal on WCCP snap.

3246
02:24:52,680 --> 02:24:55,160
Speaker 4: Hoole kick on its way, got the distance?

3247
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:56,440
Speaker 3: Does it add the accuracy?

3248
02:25:00,440 --> 02:25:01,000
Speaker 4: Get the.

3249
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:03,879
Speaker 3: Descent?

3250
02:25:04,120 --> 02:25:07,360
Speaker 7: Whatson to the playoffs man.

3251
02:25:07,560 --> 02:25:11,600
Speaker 10: The first ever twelve team college football playoff bracket will

3252
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:14,640
Speaker 10: be announced at noon today. Get your complaints ready anyway.

3253
02:25:14,680 --> 02:25:17,320
Speaker 10: In the NBA on Saturday night, Nikola Jokich your career

3254
02:25:17,400 --> 02:25:20,560
Speaker 10: high fifty six points, but Denver lost in Washington one

3255
02:25:20,680 --> 02:25:22,879
Speaker 10: twenty two to one thirteen as the Wizards broke a

3256
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:26,280
Speaker 10: sixteen game losing streak. Denver played without starters Jamal Murray

3257
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:29,760
Speaker 10: and Aaron Gordon Duwe to injury. Cad Cunningham of the

3258
02:25:29,800 --> 02:25:33,680
Speaker 10: Pistons a twenty nine point, ten rebound, fifteen assists triple

3259
02:25:33,760 --> 02:25:37,120
Speaker 10: double in Detroit's one twenty to one eleven victory over

3260
02:25:37,160 --> 02:25:39,879
Speaker 10: the New York Knicks and Madison Square Garden and Luka

3261
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 10: Doncic had a triple double thirty points, thirteen rebounds and

3262
02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:46,960
Speaker 10: eleven assists in Dallas's one twenty five to one eighteen

3263
02:25:47,080 --> 02:25:48,320
Speaker 10: victory at Toronto.

3264
02:25:48,600 --> 02:25:51,640
Speaker 9: Mike and Bucky Two things Number one for everybody getting

3265
02:25:51,640 --> 02:25:54,359
Speaker 9: ready to be mad about the college football playoff stuff.

3266
02:25:54,360 --> 02:25:57,199
Speaker 9: Remember it is, after all, a TV show, and hate

3267
02:25:57,240 --> 02:26:00,480
Speaker 9: watching is a very real thing. The second that goal,

3268
02:26:00,800 --> 02:26:02,240
Speaker 9: it sounded like the Muppet Show.

3269
02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:07,520
Speaker 1: By the way, quick question for you guys.

3270
02:26:08,400 --> 02:26:11,240
Speaker 10: You know in the past they reveal these things with

3271
02:26:11,360 --> 02:26:17,959
Speaker 10: the like the sixteen, the twenty five, twenty, the fifteen, ten,

3272
02:26:18,040 --> 02:26:20,039
Speaker 10: all the way up to number one that they reveal

3273
02:26:20,360 --> 02:26:23,040
Speaker 10: this time, it might be more dramatic and infuriating if

3274
02:26:23,040 --> 02:26:25,360
Speaker 10: they revealed number one first and all the way down

3275
02:26:25,400 --> 02:26:25,760
Speaker 10: to twelve.

3276
02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:26,879
Speaker 7: How do you guys think they'll do it?

3277
02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:27,400
Speaker 6: Oh?

3278
02:26:27,400 --> 02:26:28,240
Speaker 1: I would do it that way.

3279
02:26:28,360 --> 02:26:31,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, that might be more right, because one through four Okay,

3280
02:26:31,480 --> 02:26:32,240
Speaker 9: we know what this is.

3281
02:26:32,480 --> 02:26:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and let's cycle from there.

3282
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:38,720
Speaker 9: I agree with the ilo forget about the old countdown rules,

3283
02:26:39,360 --> 02:26:41,840
Speaker 9: although maybe you just walk the fury of it because

3284
02:26:41,879 --> 02:26:43,560
Speaker 9: it gets you an extra hour of anger.

3285
02:26:46,040 --> 02:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Who gets left out? Bam?

3286
02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:52,080
Speaker 4: Well now, because the twelve is where all the odds are,

3287
02:26:52,120 --> 02:26:54,280
Speaker 4: so maybe you do just kind of drop it from

3288
02:26:54,280 --> 02:26:57,840
Speaker 4: one to twelve, you know, put them in different practice

3289
02:26:57,879 --> 02:26:58,360
Speaker 4: and all that.

3290
02:26:58,480 --> 02:26:59,320
Speaker 5: Maybe that's the way.

3291
02:26:59,200 --> 02:26:59,800
Speaker 3: To do it.

3292
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:03,160
Speaker 9: There we go TV planning at Isaac Lohenkron. You want

3293
02:27:03,160 --> 02:27:05,920
Speaker 9: to respond to that, I'm sure get your feedback in

3294
02:27:05,959 --> 02:27:07,520
Speaker 9: and if there's a team you want to stub for,

3295
02:27:07,640 --> 02:27:10,959
Speaker 9: if you're really interesting, Ailo's been known to give the

3296
02:27:11,000 --> 02:27:14,720
Speaker 9: shout out for a creative tweet along the way. Also,

3297
02:27:14,760 --> 02:27:17,600
Speaker 9: if you hate watching Kansas City later, let's just call

3298
02:27:17,640 --> 02:27:20,800
Speaker 9: it what it is. If you see anything from the officials,

3299
02:27:20,840 --> 02:27:22,680
Speaker 9: you feel free to let him know about that too

3300
02:27:23,360 --> 02:27:26,400
Speaker 9: later on over the Sunday night game as we go.

3301
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:28,920
Speaker 9: But you know, for all the consternation, there's been a

3302
02:27:28,920 --> 02:27:31,600
Speaker 9: lot of complaining about what the NFL slate is this week,

3303
02:27:31,640 --> 02:27:33,560
Speaker 9: there's not a lot of great games, Like you know what,

3304
02:27:33,720 --> 02:27:36,440
Speaker 9: Not all two seventy two are gonna be gems, And

3305
02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:40,640
Speaker 9: sometimes the schedules just sync up to where teams have

3306
02:27:40,760 --> 02:27:43,440
Speaker 9: underperformed and aren't giving you exactly what you want. Right,

3307
02:27:43,480 --> 02:27:47,039
Speaker 9: you got the Captain Kirk revenge game Atlanta Minnesota that

3308
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:50,640
Speaker 9: has great meaning for both, right, Captain Kirk, who the

3309
02:27:50,720 --> 02:27:53,560
Speaker 9: last couple of weeks has been terrible. Panic's waiting in

3310
02:27:53,600 --> 02:27:57,280
Speaker 9: the wings, but the divisions still potentially in play.

3311
02:27:57,760 --> 02:27:58,600
Speaker 1: And then you've got.

3312
02:27:58,400 --> 02:28:03,360
Speaker 9: Minnesota, a ten two team that nobody seems to care about, and.

3313
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:06,280
Speaker 4: That would probably expected to be the marquee matchup. Right,

3314
02:28:06,320 --> 02:28:09,320
Speaker 4: you think about Kirk Cousins homecoming, you know you put

3315
02:28:09,320 --> 02:28:12,600
Speaker 4: that in the main the main deal. That's one that

3316
02:28:12,680 --> 02:28:15,240
Speaker 4: everyone can talk about. It's easy to build storylines about.

3317
02:28:15,480 --> 02:28:17,200
Speaker 4: It's just that he's been so bad of late that

3318
02:28:17,240 --> 02:28:21,000
Speaker 4: you haven't talked about. And the Minnesota Vikings are the

3319
02:28:21,120 --> 02:28:23,320
Speaker 4: least discussed ten and two team in football.

3320
02:28:24,280 --> 02:28:25,360
Speaker 3: No, it's it.

3321
02:28:25,360 --> 02:28:28,199
Speaker 1: It's good, it's solid, but it's it's not sexy.

3322
02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:29,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, right.

3323
02:28:29,720 --> 02:28:32,119
Speaker 9: Flores has done a good job with the defense. Sam

3324
02:28:32,200 --> 02:28:34,440
Speaker 9: Darnold's been great, but there's only so much you can

3325
02:28:34,480 --> 02:28:38,200
Speaker 9: do there. Justin Jefferson, the overall numbers are there, but

3326
02:28:38,280 --> 02:28:41,160
Speaker 9: he's had some muted games along the way. It's like

3327
02:28:41,200 --> 02:28:44,080
Speaker 9: there's there's just not that that level of excitement that

3328
02:28:44,200 --> 02:28:46,959
Speaker 9: normally comes with a team that's breaking through. Now they

3329
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:51,640
Speaker 9: have the unfortunate occurrence that they are in the NFC

3330
02:28:51,760 --> 02:28:54,800
Speaker 9: North where the headlines have been for let's face it,

3331
02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:59,400
Speaker 9: all three other teams, positively or negatively. It's they've taken

3332
02:28:59,440 --> 02:29:01,160
Speaker 9: all the ox out of the room this year.

3333
02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:05,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, life, this is Kenneth you know, taken

3334
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:10,440
Speaker 4: away detracted the focus from the Minnesota Vikings, the bear

3335
02:29:10,520 --> 02:29:13,160
Speaker 4: situation I sent to quarterback you then talking about the

3336
02:29:13,160 --> 02:29:15,080
Speaker 4: Packers being the Packers in a big brand, and then

3337
02:29:15,080 --> 02:29:17,040
Speaker 4: the love affair that we have with the Detroit a liance.

3338
02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:17,720
Speaker 5: I understand it.

3339
02:29:18,800 --> 02:29:21,560
Speaker 9: America's love that will turn to hate at some point here,

3340
02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:24,840
Speaker 9: because that's just the natural cycle of things in the

3341
02:29:24,959 --> 02:29:28,160
Speaker 9: sporting universe. At Bucky Brooks, where you find him on Twitter,

3342
02:29:28,200 --> 02:29:30,119
Speaker 9: find me at Swollen do Home. Let's do one more game.

3343
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:33,040
Speaker 9: Seattle Arizona sixteen to six, a couple of weeks ago,

3344
02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:36,560
Speaker 9: no Kenneth Walker the third for this one a blow

3345
02:29:36,640 --> 02:29:39,959
Speaker 9: to the Seattle run game. So so more of Zach Charbonna,

3346
02:29:40,160 --> 02:29:44,680
Speaker 9: not to be confused with our guy who was doing

3347
02:29:44,680 --> 02:29:51,680
Speaker 9: his picks yesterday, Willie Wonka himself, Timothy Shalomy getting it

3348
02:29:51,720 --> 02:29:53,840
Speaker 9: done and looking.

3349
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Really good too.

3350
02:29:54,400 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 9: So people like he's coming for our jobs as a

3351
02:29:57,040 --> 02:30:00,520
Speaker 9: college football analyst. But for Arizona one of the more

3352
02:30:00,520 --> 02:30:04,560
Speaker 9: maddening teams of the season, on again, off again. At

3353
02:30:04,600 --> 02:30:07,720
Speaker 9: least Kyler Murray is healthy and able to run around,

3354
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:12,120
Speaker 9: But you haven't had the consistency necessarily from James Connor

3355
02:30:12,120 --> 02:30:14,360
Speaker 9: that you come to expect. He did get his extensions,

3356
02:30:14,480 --> 02:30:17,199
Speaker 9: so a couple more years of the battering ram there,

3357
02:30:17,560 --> 02:30:20,840
Speaker 9: but from the passing game, Kyler Murray's only had a

3358
02:30:20,920 --> 02:30:24,160
Speaker 9: couple of games that really popped. So how do you

3359
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:26,440
Speaker 9: how often do we get to week fourteen of a

3360
02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:28,280
Speaker 9: year going I have no idea what I'm gonna get

3361
02:30:28,280 --> 02:30:29,359
Speaker 9: from either of these squads.

3362
02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:33,680
Speaker 4: Not often you would like to have the identity fully

3363
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:36,039
Speaker 4: out there ready to go that you know exactly what

3364
02:30:36,040 --> 02:30:38,440
Speaker 4: you're dealing with. You know exactly what kind of team

3365
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:40,800
Speaker 4: you have and how they're gonna play, and you got a.

3366
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:41,560
Speaker 5: Great feel for it.

3367
02:30:41,800 --> 02:30:44,240
Speaker 4: But to be this deep into the season and still

3368
02:30:44,320 --> 02:30:47,080
Speaker 4: not know who they are or what they're about, Yeah,

3369
02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:50,840
Speaker 4: that's a huge problem. And we can talk about Kyler Murray,

3370
02:30:50,959 --> 02:30:53,320
Speaker 4: talk about the coaches, talk about everyone, but that's that's

3371
02:30:53,320 --> 02:30:55,680
Speaker 4: the team. I think everyone should know the identity of

3372
02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:58,039
Speaker 4: the team. And as a coach, you got to build

3373
02:30:58,080 --> 02:31:00,480
Speaker 4: a team to the strengths of your play, but there

3374
02:31:00,520 --> 02:31:03,520
Speaker 4: should be a common thread that runs through it. Whenever

3375
02:31:03,560 --> 02:31:05,920
Speaker 4: you see this team, you know you're going to get X,

3376
02:31:06,040 --> 02:31:08,640
Speaker 4: Y and Z. Don't really have this since with the

3377
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:10,760
Speaker 4: Gardens except I know they're gonna play hard. They gonna

3378
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:12,760
Speaker 4: play hard, they're gonna pete, but offensly, I don't know

3379
02:31:12,800 --> 02:31:13,640
Speaker 4: what they're really about.

3380
02:31:13,760 --> 02:31:19,119
Speaker 9: Yeah, tied for Wellether six or seventh run rushing yards

3381
02:31:19,120 --> 02:31:22,840
Speaker 9: per game, twelve touchdowns on the ground. Okay, so it's

3382
02:31:22,920 --> 02:31:26,160
Speaker 9: to a degree, but it never feels like they're imposing

3383
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:27,119
Speaker 9: their will on.

3384
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:28,760
Speaker 1: A squad and committed to it. Right.

3385
02:31:29,240 --> 02:31:33,119
Speaker 9: So, but you're in a division that even with San Francisco.

3386
02:31:33,160 --> 02:31:35,800
Speaker 9: We talked about the game last hour with Andy against

3387
02:31:35,879 --> 02:31:39,000
Speaker 9: the Bears. San Francisco wins this it's still just a

3388
02:31:39,120 --> 02:31:41,199
Speaker 9: four team mess within division.

3389
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:45,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's such a weird division.

3390
02:31:45,720 --> 02:31:47,440
Speaker 4: We knew it would be a little bit of a correction,

3391
02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:50,520
Speaker 4: but the way that everyone is and what it's going

3392
02:31:50,560 --> 02:31:52,160
Speaker 4: to do is gonna make it. We're three teams from

3393
02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:55,640
Speaker 4: the NFC North get in at a minimum, and then

3394
02:31:56,200 --> 02:31:57,680
Speaker 4: I don't know where the other where does the other

3395
02:31:57,720 --> 02:32:02,920
Speaker 4: Walker team come from? But it'd be interesting. Maybe maybe

3396
02:32:02,920 --> 02:32:06,520
Speaker 4: it's the Commanders, but I just don't see. Only see

3397
02:32:06,560 --> 02:32:10,200
Speaker 4: one team from the West getting into the.

3398
02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:13,160
Speaker 9: Tournament's it and we'll see the Rams they host the

3399
02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:16,360
Speaker 9: Bills later on as well. Rams still sitting at five

3400
02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:20,520
Speaker 9: hundred despite all their injuries and issues throughout this season.

3401
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:20,959
Speaker 5: As well.

3402
02:32:21,080 --> 02:32:24,000
Speaker 9: As we continue here, it's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Ready,

3403
02:32:24,040 --> 02:32:26,720
Speaker 9: we'll try to find a sneaky good game on the

3404
02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:29,640
Speaker 9: schedule for you to pay attention to on your four box.

3405
02:32:30,000 --> 02:32:32,560
Speaker 9: Uh and Bucky's closing thoughts as we get to this

3406
02:32:32,680 --> 02:32:35,920
Speaker 9: next phase of our National Football League season, six teams

3407
02:32:35,920 --> 02:32:38,280
Speaker 9: on a bye, We'll find you the Gems. I'm Mike

3408
02:32:38,480 --> 02:32:42,520
Speaker 9: he's Bucky in This is Fox Football Sunday. Welcome back

3409
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:46,280
Speaker 9: in Fox Football Sunday, Mike Carbon, Bucky Brough's Bucky. It's

3410
02:32:46,320 --> 02:32:48,879
Speaker 9: good that Andy's not on because he hated Alvin earlier.

3411
02:32:52,680 --> 02:32:54,840
Speaker 9: He didn't like he was he was not a fan.

3412
02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:58,039
Speaker 9: He's like, oh, you'd be quiet, Alvin, which is funny.

3413
02:32:58,080 --> 02:33:02,960
Speaker 9: He clearly channeled Seville on a whole other lave all level.

3414
02:33:03,720 --> 02:33:07,000
Speaker 9: All right, good slate at least if you're looking for

3415
02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:09,840
Speaker 9: your fantasy options, because you're gonna have to dig deep.

3416
02:33:09,879 --> 02:33:12,000
Speaker 1: This is what this is. Winning time and.

3417
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:16,440
Speaker 9: Opportunities for would be heroes to find their way through

3418
02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:21,840
Speaker 9: backups galore across the National Football League, and Opportunity says.

3419
02:33:21,959 --> 02:33:25,200
Speaker 9: You know, we talked about that Bears and forty nine

3420
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:27,920
Speaker 9: Ers game. Nick Bosa ruled out on Saturday. They had

3421
02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:29,280
Speaker 9: hoped he was going to be able to go, so

3422
02:33:29,320 --> 02:33:32,280
Speaker 9: he's out. Trent Williams, good thoughts to him and his

3423
02:33:32,320 --> 02:33:36,240
Speaker 9: family that everything's been chronicled out there, so good thoughts

3424
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:38,760
Speaker 9: for him as well. But he's going to miss this

3425
02:33:38,840 --> 02:33:41,680
Speaker 9: one on the offensive line, so you've got that. As

3426
02:33:41,720 --> 02:33:44,320
Speaker 9: we look at the slate overall. Bucky though I mentioned

3427
02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:46,840
Speaker 9: that Buffalo in the Rams game. Is this a spot

3428
02:33:46,840 --> 02:33:48,480
Speaker 9: where the Rams can sting him at home?

3429
02:33:50,440 --> 02:33:53,360
Speaker 4: Yes? Did? It is dangerous enough to do it, and

3430
02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:55,880
Speaker 4: sometimes it's the toughest thing that you have to guard against.

3431
02:33:56,120 --> 02:33:57,640
Speaker 5: And you hear Nick Saban talk about it.

3432
02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:01,400
Speaker 4: But all these coaches believe when you have a level

3433
02:34:01,400 --> 02:34:05,080
Speaker 4: of success, can you avoid the complacency that sets in

3434
02:34:05,560 --> 02:34:07,560
Speaker 4: when everyone's been patting you on the back. You just

3435
02:34:07,600 --> 02:34:10,080
Speaker 4: had the snowstorm where you kick the Niners up and

3436
02:34:10,120 --> 02:34:12,039
Speaker 4: down the field and everyone is talking about how great

3437
02:34:12,080 --> 02:34:15,000
Speaker 4: your team is and Josh Allen for MVP and those things.

3438
02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:20,560
Speaker 4: Can they bring enough emotional maturity to go take care

3439
02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:23,520
Speaker 4: of business. You're the Rams and you're saying, hey, guys,

3440
02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:25,000
Speaker 4: this is a chance for us to get back right.

3441
02:34:25,040 --> 02:34:26,520
Speaker 4: If you want to get respect, you got to go

3442
02:34:26,560 --> 02:34:28,959
Speaker 4: get against a team that people are saying might be

3443
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:31,160
Speaker 4: the best team in football. Yeah, this is a trap game.

3444
02:34:31,360 --> 02:34:34,240
Speaker 4: If the Buffalo Bills don't come correct, they're gonna leave

3445
02:34:34,280 --> 02:34:36,280
Speaker 4: with an al. This is a huge game for the

3446
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:39,120
Speaker 4: Rams because they know what it can do for their confidence.

3447
02:34:39,480 --> 02:34:41,840
Speaker 4: More importantly, what it can do for their standing within

3448
02:34:41,879 --> 02:34:42,480
Speaker 4: the division.

3449
02:34:43,160 --> 02:34:43,800
Speaker 5: This is huge.

3450
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, this could be one of the rams rams snatch,

3451
02:34:46,879 --> 02:34:48,560
Speaker 4: they take out of what take it out on them?

3452
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:52,720
Speaker 9: Talk about another opportunity when we were talking about quarterbacks

3453
02:34:52,760 --> 02:34:56,200
Speaker 9: and players gutting through injuries, because certainly a lot of

3454
02:34:56,240 --> 02:34:59,080
Speaker 9: reports here in Los Angeles, look what Matthew Stafford's dealing

3455
02:34:59,080 --> 02:35:03,519
Speaker 9: with physically, Like, yeah, he's a north of thirty five quarterback.

3456
02:35:04,040 --> 02:35:06,440
Speaker 9: I would expect that come week fourteen. But you mentioned

3457
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:08,400
Speaker 9: Josh Allen in the MVP. Why don't we close out

3458
02:35:08,440 --> 02:35:12,879
Speaker 9: with that discussion, because that's that's fun, fun fodder, you know,

3459
02:35:12,959 --> 02:35:16,000
Speaker 9: empty calories as it were, in this holiday season where

3460
02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:18,760
Speaker 9: we're eating all sorts of cookies, pies, and you know,

3461
02:35:18,840 --> 02:35:24,520
Speaker 9: sugar laden beverages along the way. Is he hurt in

3462
02:35:25,000 --> 02:35:27,720
Speaker 9: the discussion? Obviously the betting odds are in his favor

3463
02:35:28,200 --> 02:35:30,039
Speaker 9: and now I'm going full hunger Games and all of

3464
02:35:30,040 --> 02:35:33,120
Speaker 9: this as he's taken the lead Saquon Barkley up there

3465
02:35:33,160 --> 02:35:35,600
Speaker 9: as well. Is he hurt by the fact that the

3466
02:35:35,640 --> 02:35:36,759
Speaker 9: East stinks.

3467
02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:42,840
Speaker 4: In I don't think he's heard about. I think, if anything, like,

3468
02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:45,080
Speaker 4: he benefits from all of it, right. I think right

3469
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:48,680
Speaker 4: now he is the one that the media is celebrating.

3470
02:35:48,879 --> 02:35:49,080
Speaker 5: Right.

3471
02:35:49,120 --> 02:35:51,800
Speaker 4: There's a love affair with Josh Allen, like we're ready

3472
02:35:51,800 --> 02:35:53,760
Speaker 4: to proclaim, and we wanted to proclaim him to number

3473
02:35:53,720 --> 02:35:55,280
Speaker 4: more quarterback in football. He deserves to be in a

3474
02:35:55,320 --> 02:35:58,400
Speaker 4: conversation with Pat Mahomes. But the things that he doesn't

3475
02:35:58,400 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 4: have on his resume, he doesn't have a super Bowl, doesn't

3476
02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:02,680
Speaker 4: have the MVP. So we're looking at it and at

3477
02:36:02,680 --> 02:36:06,360
Speaker 4: a time where the quarterback play around has been met,

3478
02:36:06,640 --> 02:36:08,720
Speaker 4: no one's really setting records in the guy who is

3479
02:36:08,760 --> 02:36:10,800
Speaker 4: his team is so far out the race that you

3480
02:36:10,840 --> 02:36:14,000
Speaker 4: can't give him MVPN. That's Joe Burrow. We're looking for

3481
02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:16,800
Speaker 4: that guy. And because of the story, Look, he lost

3482
02:36:16,879 --> 02:36:19,720
Speaker 4: Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs, they weren't expected to be

3483
02:36:19,720 --> 02:36:22,360
Speaker 4: a team that would legitimately compete for the super Bowl.

3484
02:36:22,640 --> 02:36:25,640
Speaker 4: It has to be Josh Allen, and in these primetime

3485
02:36:25,720 --> 02:36:30,320
Speaker 4: games he has dazzled with moments, not necessarily consistent production,

3486
02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:33,199
Speaker 4: but moments that you're like, man, this dude is remarkable.

3487
02:36:33,520 --> 02:36:35,879
Speaker 4: So that's where it kind of stems from. It comes from.

3488
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:39,000
Speaker 9: I still thought forward progress was stopped on that play

3489
02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:42,400
Speaker 9: that he got credit for the receiving touchdown that.

3490
02:36:42,920 --> 02:36:44,000
Speaker 1: Should have been whistled dead.

3491
02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:46,320
Speaker 9: I know, I know, I might be the only guy

3492
02:36:46,360 --> 02:36:49,600
Speaker 9: that feels that way, but that was my take on

3493
02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:53,800
Speaker 9: the situation. Obviously, for the Eagles, the expectations of men's

3494
02:36:53,879 --> 02:36:57,080
Speaker 9: coming into the year, not only because they get to

3495
02:36:57,120 --> 02:37:00,320
Speaker 9: point and laugh at the Giants and Shane and everything else.

3496
02:37:00,360 --> 02:37:03,440
Speaker 9: But let's call it what it is. All the whispers

3497
02:37:03,440 --> 02:37:06,640
Speaker 9: of Sirianni versus hurts get to go to the backside

3498
02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:10,320
Speaker 9: while you're winning. Doesn't have to be perfect as long

3499
02:37:10,360 --> 02:37:12,760
Speaker 9: as the w's pile up and you're looking at the

3500
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:17,240
Speaker 9: week to week efforts from Berkley's it's seemingly a two race,

3501
02:37:17,640 --> 02:37:21,840
Speaker 9: two team race in the NFC. I'm wondering where who

3502
02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:25,800
Speaker 9: else crashes the party and the Packers rebound, you know,

3503
02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:28,760
Speaker 9: once we're looking at the playoffs, and we talked about

3504
02:37:28,800 --> 02:37:31,440
Speaker 9: the Vikings a little bit earlier, but is there someone

3505
02:37:31,480 --> 02:37:33,360
Speaker 9: off the pace we need to pay more attention to

3506
02:37:33,480 --> 02:37:34,840
Speaker 9: these last four or five weeks.

3507
02:37:36,879 --> 02:37:39,280
Speaker 4: Look, I'm big believers in the Minnesota Vikings. In the

3508
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:41,840
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers. I love what the Pittsburgh Steelers have done

3509
02:37:41,879 --> 02:37:46,560
Speaker 4: their defense, their keepaway methods on offense in terms of

3510
02:37:46,600 --> 02:37:49,360
Speaker 4: the way they drained the clock, dominate time possession, and

3511
02:37:49,360 --> 02:37:51,560
Speaker 4: the russ L Wilson being the X fat that they

3512
02:37:51,560 --> 02:37:53,600
Speaker 4: can take them over the top. So to me, they're

3513
02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:57,400
Speaker 4: the team that despite the success, people haven't given them

3514
02:37:57,480 --> 02:37:58,000
Speaker 4: enough props.

3515
02:37:58,000 --> 02:38:01,439
Speaker 5: And if you watch Inside the North O'Hart Knox.

3516
02:38:01,360 --> 02:38:02,800
Speaker 4: How can you not fall in love with the way

3517
02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:05,800
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin leaves his team. On the other side, let's

3518
02:38:05,840 --> 02:38:08,280
Speaker 4: talk about the Minnesota Vikings team that doesn't get enough

3519
02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:10,720
Speaker 4: respect when you look at them. They also have the

3520
02:38:10,800 --> 02:38:15,560
Speaker 4: recipe look. They are dominant on defense, they create splash

3521
02:38:15,560 --> 02:38:17,560
Speaker 4: plays with turnovers and sacks.

3522
02:38:17,920 --> 02:38:19,360
Speaker 5: Sam Donald's the X factor, but.

3523
02:38:19,400 --> 02:38:22,400
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell and Brian Flores are great coaches, almost a

3524
02:38:22,480 --> 02:38:25,600
Speaker 4: dream team. That team can give people a lot of

3525
02:38:25,680 --> 02:38:27,480
Speaker 4: problems when you have to face them in a one

3526
02:38:27,480 --> 02:38:30,240
Speaker 4: and done scenario. Pittsburgh Minnesota to two teams that I

3527
02:38:30,280 --> 02:38:31,200
Speaker 4: would say keep an eye on.

3528
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:34,360
Speaker 9: Winners of five straight are the Vikings as they head

3529
02:38:34,360 --> 02:38:38,440
Speaker 9: into that date against Atlanta. Playoff implications all around there,

3530
02:38:38,480 --> 02:38:42,119
Speaker 9: and while the Steelers getting it done weekend week out.

3531
02:38:42,760 --> 02:38:45,520
Speaker 9: It doesn't have to be sexy, but it's winning football.

3532
02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:47,160
Speaker 9: And who doesn't love Mike Tomlin.

3533
02:38:47,320 --> 02:38:47,960
Speaker 7: You just have to.

3534
02:38:48,520 --> 02:38:50,039
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks.

3535
02:38:50,040 --> 02:38:53,760
Speaker 9: Where you find him, NFL dot com, foxsports dot Com.

3536
02:38:53,800 --> 02:38:56,800
Speaker 9: He's on the call later with the Jaguars and the

3537
02:38:56,800 --> 02:39:00,680
Speaker 9: Tennessee Titans. Hey reminder, countdown to kickoff, presided by Ben MGM,

3538
02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:04,080
Speaker 9: No Schwartz, Bill Krakeenberger. They've got you covered coming up

3539
02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:07,680
Speaker 9: in ten minutes. Here Sunday Morning Listen, Fox Sports Radio

3540
02:39:07,959 --> 02:39:09,600
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3541
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Speaker 1: See you next week.