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Speaker 1: It's day two of the owners meetings here in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Eric Allen joined alongside by the man they call Slash,

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Speaker 1: Cordell Stewart, who is here with tune in. We got

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Speaker 1: a great show in store for you today. Not only

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Speaker 1: is Cordell here right now, but will be joined shortly

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Speaker 1: by South Palestonio from ESPN, also Kim Martin from Newsday

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Speaker 1: who covers the Jets, of course, and possibly Ian Reppport

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Speaker 1: as well from NFL Network. We are brought to you

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Speaker 1: today by Bridge Stone. It's an official tire the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets. But without further ado, let's bring in Slash himself,

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Speaker 1: Cordell Stewart. Cordell ASC coaches breakfast today, Todd Bowles tells

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Speaker 1: the media it's going to be an open competition at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position from the New York just in two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. Your taking. I'll tell you what I think

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Speaker 1: it's healthy for the team to have that um. I

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Speaker 1: think you you know, whenever you present a level of

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Speaker 1: he appears and everyone around to really appreciate who's going

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Speaker 1: to be that starter. Uh So, if it's Chris Hackenburgh

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Speaker 1: going up against Josh McCown, so be it. Um. I

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Speaker 1: know they paid Josh McCown a pretty decent contract to

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Speaker 1: make you assume or think that he is potentially could

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Speaker 1: be the quarterback based on being a veteran and everything

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Speaker 1: he's accomplished. But he's moved around a lot. But then

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Speaker 1: you have Chris Hackenberg and Bryce Petty. I mean he

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Speaker 1: came in the second round. Christian Hackenberg came in the

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Speaker 1: when you really put it in his proper perspective and

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Speaker 1: have a level of transparency at that position, because that's

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Speaker 1: probably one of the most critical positions on the field.

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Speaker 1: I know you talked about the corners when the one

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Speaker 1: on one coverages um corners having to be on an

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Speaker 1: so to speak. You know, this is the position that

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Speaker 1: think it's imperative that you create, especially with the passionate

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Speaker 1: New York Jets. UM, it's important that you make sure

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Speaker 1: you have the guy out there, UM, that that is

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Speaker 1: the guy improving himself to be that because if if

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Speaker 1: the fan base, you hear it when it comes the reaction.

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Speaker 1: If you're a young quarterback in this league, which you

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Speaker 1: were in your Christian Hackenburg today and you just came

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Speaker 1: off a red shirt season, the Jets never had any

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Speaker 1: intention of playing him in year one, and they certainly

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Speaker 1: didn't because Ryan Fitzpatrick had just come off the season

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Speaker 1: where he threw thirty one touchdown passes for the nearly

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Speaker 1: four thousand yards passing the Jets set a franchise record

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Speaker 1: in terms of total yards. So Hackenburg came in and

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Speaker 1: he was the third guy didn't play last season. But

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Speaker 1: today here in late March, you hear that you're head

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Speaker 1: coach saying you're gonna have an opportunity to play. What

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Speaker 1: well he'd be thinking right now, Let's let's put it

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Speaker 1: in perspective. Okay, Coach Bowles was borderline on the hot

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Speaker 1: seat going into this season. Let's be realistic. The worst

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Speaker 1: have to stick to that one commitment without allowing the

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Speaker 1: competitive spirit of each one of these players to take

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Speaker 1: its toll. To determine who's going to be the starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback Garian team, that's the smartest thing to do as

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Speaker 1: a head coach, not saying that that wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: be his approach. But you don't have Shan Gailey anymore,

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Speaker 1: whether Ryan Fitzpatrick, who knows the system going back to Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: and so this is a totally different situation. Now you're

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Speaker 1: having to bring someone who's never been a starter on

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Speaker 1: this football team to actually take it over. Consider that

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Speaker 1: coach Bowls has what an extended year on his contract

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Speaker 1: is this upcoming season. And so when you really again

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Speaker 1: put it in a level of a perspective, but most

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Speaker 1: importantly have levels of transparency. It's important that you do this.

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Speaker 1: And so does the collective experience being in the game

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Speaker 1: for some time for Josh McCown and gives him the edge.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so does the young, inexperienced player of

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Speaker 1: Because you're all taught how to do the good things right,

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Speaker 1: hopefully have answers for those mistakes, and those answers are

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Speaker 1: to correct them. Basically, what better thing to have in

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Speaker 1: You have a veteran offense, you know. It's a group

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles did say in regards to two thousand and

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Speaker 1: What do you think about some of the top guys

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Speaker 1: Everyone thought Carson Wentz was going as the first quarterback

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Speaker 1: it's headed. You still got a lot of answers quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them go eight and eate have everyone

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Speaker 1: realized you understand that you're going in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say, all right, that's good now. You know,

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Speaker 1: then in two eighteen you say, all right, now we're

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Speaker 1: ready to move. You've covered this leaf for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I've always maintained that the jump from five wins to

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Speaker 1: maybe eight or nine it's a little bit easier than

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Speaker 1: making the jump from eight or nine wins to eleven

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Speaker 1: or twelve. What do you think? Uh, yeah, that's it's

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Speaker 1: interesting thought. I mean, you know, to me, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna do that. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: is that you see teams make similar jumps, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of things went wrong for the Jets last year,

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Speaker 1: especially in the injury front. And this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a new ruster and this is a team definitely a transition.

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Speaker 1: But with that being said, um well, I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna win ten games either. So it is interesting though,

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Speaker 1: like the transition can happen so quickly in this league

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Speaker 1: because you change over roster, you get rid of a

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Speaker 1: bunch of injured guys, and if the new guys don't

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Speaker 1: get injured, then almost you upgrade by a lot, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: because you're having starters playing, and you're having starts, we're

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Speaker 1: playing a lot better than the the you know, replacements

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Speaker 1: for the injured guys. It could happen pretty quick. The

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Speaker 1: other thing is that you can't account for is let's

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Speaker 1: say the Jets are five and five, right, and then

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Speaker 1: you got a young team who's building, it feels good

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Speaker 1: about themselves, got some confidence. Maybe you go six and

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Speaker 1: five and then like, I can't, I can't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the mentality is gonna be, like if they're

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Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, we believe, we're good and

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Speaker 1: we can sort of take it the next and that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, like you get in the mix and get

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Speaker 1: to the point in December where you're in the mix

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Speaker 1: and then see what happened. But lastly, Free and Rap

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Speaker 1: report from NFL Network before we bring on Kim Martin

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Speaker 1: from Newsday here day two of the owners meetings here

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Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona, is that, Um, do you think the

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Speaker 1: Jets are going about this approach the right way? We

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Speaker 1: talk about mcagnet and he says, sustainability in this league,

468
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Speaker 1: you gotta build through the draft. That's how good teams

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Speaker 1: do that. You mentioned the ten wins a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. In year one, nobody expected to just to

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Speaker 1: win in ten games, So I don't really think you

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Speaker 1: can necessarily tear it down after winning ten games. So

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Speaker 1: you go into year two and you try to build

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Speaker 1: off of that, Well, that didn't happen, a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 1: and then you make a lot of changes. But right now,

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Speaker 1: as they make this transition, and you you've seen what

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Speaker 1: they've done in free agency, bringing a guy like McCowen,

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Speaker 1: bringing in low risk, higroward guys like Morris Clayborn former Cowboy,

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Speaker 1: Calvin beach On, former Jacksonville Jaguar. Um. Do you think

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Speaker 1: they're taking the right approach right now? Yeah? I think so, UM.

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Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, it would have been nice to

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Speaker 1: take this approach last year, but you can't do it

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Speaker 1: coming off ten wins. You just can't because everyone it

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Speaker 1: looks like you're getting ready to win. You had to

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Speaker 1: resign Fitzpatrick and she's had to You had to do it. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it would have been nice if they had won

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Speaker 1: fewer games two years ago, so they could have started

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Speaker 1: this year early um, but to me, this is what

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Speaker 1: it this is, this is where the franchise should be

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Speaker 1: now in transition, trying to build expectation to be a

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Speaker 1: little lower. And if you exceed them, that's fine. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you're six and six going in December, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. But this is a very necessary

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Speaker 1: step toward getting ready to win again. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: at rap Sheet n foul network. You can follow him.

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Speaker 1: The meetings are actually concluding early today, right, I guess absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Im sure Goodal speaks to the media and then we

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Speaker 1: have the NFC Coaches Breakfast tomorrow morning, and then uh,

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Speaker 1: that's it. Everyone's out of here. Everybody's out of here,

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Speaker 1: So keep on filling in. He's all over the place,

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Speaker 1: not AFL network reps. She thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: stopping by. Okay, so Ian Rep Report will exit the

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Speaker 1: stage right actually, and then now Kim Martin from Newsday

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Speaker 1: is going to join us. Todd Bowles spoke at the

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Speaker 1: FC Coaches breakfast this morning. Lots of Jets news to discuss.

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Speaker 1: We thank both Ian and Cordell Stewart, who's working for

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Speaker 1: Tune in and check him out Monday through Friday, four

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Speaker 1: to seven and don alone that on your app again.

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Speaker 1: We're streaming live on Twitter, on New York Just dot com,

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Speaker 1: and on our app and bridge Stone. It is the

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Speaker 1: official tire of the New York Jets. Now, let's get

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Speaker 1: to the official beat writer of Newsday. That's Kim Martin,

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Speaker 1: of course, who was there for all sixty minutes of

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Speaker 1: Todd bowls this morning. Hey, so let me get to

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Speaker 1: this first. You popped in with a question late that

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Speaker 1: really got my attention and a lot of people will

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Speaker 1: write about today. He said, Hey, what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: do differently coming up specifically about the offense? And how

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Speaker 1: do you answer that? Because you're sperked up at that point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Todd um said he's going to be heavily more involved

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Speaker 1: on offense. Which it's funny. As soon as I tweeted that,

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Speaker 1: the feedback was, Oh, here we go again, because I

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Speaker 1: think for a lot of Jets fans they remember Rex

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Speaker 1: sort of saying the same thing. But I think it

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Speaker 1: is sort of It may seem like deja vu for fans,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a natural evolution. Todd used that

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Speaker 1: word evolution today. Um. I think now in his third year,

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Speaker 1: those same way he self scouts the defense and players.

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Speaker 1: He has to do his own self scouting, and I

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Speaker 1: think he understands that he has to pick and choose

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Speaker 1: his spots a little better as to how heavily involved

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Speaker 1: he is, um, whether it's behind the scenes or game day. UM.

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Speaker 1: So I think now, especially with the new offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: he's gotten, you know, they have to develop their report

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Speaker 1: and have their working relationship hip. But Todd also has

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Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, how to make sure that

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Speaker 1: his message what he wants to see on both sides

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Speaker 1: the ball gets through a couple of things, kim Uh.

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Speaker 1: Most people assume that just gonna run a West Coast

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Speaker 1: offense next year, and Todd's going to ask about that

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Speaker 1: both in Indianapolis and not again here in Phoenix. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's trying to put himself in a corner.

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Speaker 1: He's saying, hey, listen, we're going to run whatever we

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be a successful offense. And the

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Speaker 1: worst thing he could do is say this is what

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Speaker 1: we are, because I think the roster is still in

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Speaker 1: flux a little bit, because you know, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what they're going to do in the draft just yet. Um.

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Speaker 1: And also you have new coaches. Um, and I think,

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Speaker 1: as Todd has said today, he reiterated that the system,

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Speaker 1: you know, you try to fit the system to the

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Speaker 1: players and make sure that you take advantage of the

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Speaker 1: skill sets that these guys have. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: a little early in March to say we are going

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Speaker 1: to run a West Coast offense. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot of different things. Um, depend on the game,

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Speaker 1: the matchup, the opponent. I don't even think his coach

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Speaker 1: speak either, because I mean, you really do. To be successful,

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Speaker 1: you have to match your system to your personnel, right right.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that Todd said today was that

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Speaker 1: he brought up a specific instance. God it, I can't.

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Speaker 1: You might remember the game. I don't offhand, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. But as soon as he said it,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know, I caught myself sometimes on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: Is for instance, last year there was a game when

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Speaker 1: I should have went for two, but I was busy

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Speaker 1: to occupied, Yeah, the sideline. So he gave up a

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Speaker 1: specific example that yeah, and I think it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's a lot harder than people give

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Speaker 1: these guys credit for it, too, you know, you're you

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Speaker 1: really have to compartmentalize, but keep keep track of everything

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Speaker 1: sideline stuff, what's going on the field. And that's why

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Speaker 1: both mentioned that, you know, he relied on Casey a

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Speaker 1: lot upstairs to sort of, you know, take on a

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Speaker 1: little bit more response ability so that he can have

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Speaker 1: his focus in other places. To Kim Martin from Newsdays here,

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Speaker 1: it's the day to the owners meetings in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: ESPN Seal Palatonio is gonna come on here momentarily. Send

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Speaker 1: in Twitter questions. We're live. We're streaming live on Twitter

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Speaker 1: on a periscope there, so you can send them in

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Speaker 1: Bridge Stone, official tire of the New York Jets. The

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Speaker 1: quarterback news is that what you expected to hear from

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Speaker 1: Coach Bowls today? Obviously the Jets most recently added the

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Speaker 1: Grizzly vet to the max in Josh McCown, thirty seven

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Speaker 1: years old. He's seen it all play in every system

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Speaker 1: you can imagine almost every team at this Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know why then the Jets will be his tent. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, And you know that because he

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Speaker 1: went talking to people all week. Wow, if there's a

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Speaker 1: guy that's more respected out there, I don't know who

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Speaker 1: it is, because everybody talks about his approach, the way

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Speaker 1: is in the locker room, the way he is with

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Speaker 1: his teammates, and the leadership qualities he has. But as

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Speaker 1: first Todd is concerned, is that what you were expected

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Speaker 1: from from him today? Yeah, Todd is not going to

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Speaker 1: come out you know, it's it's not a Fitzpatrick situation

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Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, coming off his first year,

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Speaker 1: it's like, we know, we want this guy as our starter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Josh McCown is here, and Todd said today,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be competition. Now if you're a Christian Hackenburg,

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Speaker 1: if you're a Bryce Petty, that's good to hear um,

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Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people just assumed that

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown was gonna come in and be handed the job, right.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, out of the free agent quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that were available, I actually, you know, I'm sure Jets

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Speaker 1: Twitter is gonna blow my when I say this, but

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Speaker 1: I actually was in favor of Josh McCown. Um. Not

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Speaker 1: that I have a dog in the race or anything,

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Speaker 1: but I just thought that from from everything I've heard,

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Speaker 1: like even Brandon Marshall raved about him their former teammates

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Speaker 1: UM in Chicago and just hearing Brandon talk about the

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Speaker 1: kind of leader and UM, it's been it's just Um

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Speaker 1: just sort of just a great guy that he is

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Speaker 1: and he just always raped about him and that stood

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Speaker 1: out for me other coaches around me. It really is

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Speaker 1: all positive. What did you find out about Christian Hackenburg

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Speaker 1: in year one? We saw him limited time during training

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Speaker 1: camp and then playing a couple of preseason game, well

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Speaker 1: the preseason game against where he struggled. And then listen,

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Speaker 1: we're only outside if we're able to get out there

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Speaker 1: for the first massive practice. So what do you know?

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Speaker 1: What did Jets fans? What should they know about Christian

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Speaker 1: Hackenburgh at this point? Here's it. I think this is

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Speaker 1: the problem. We don't know anything about Christian. But what

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Speaker 1: I've been able to glean from him is that he

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Speaker 1: is somebody that UM can handle the media very well.

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Speaker 1: He's very self assured UM and and the dealing with

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Speaker 1: the I don't want to use the word distractions or anything,

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Speaker 1: but with four quarterbacks last year, it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of Hey, Christian, you know, what do you think do

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Speaker 1: you think you have a chance to like be in

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Speaker 1: the mix what do you when you know, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about this red shirt year? So he had

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Speaker 1: to deal with a lot, a lot of questions and

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Speaker 1: it could have gone a different way depending on how

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Speaker 1: he handled the situation. So, um, that is reassuring. But

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Speaker 1: as far as what's on the field, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: don't you really don't know. And I think that is

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Speaker 1: what is most frustrating for Jets fans because they want

640
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Speaker 1: to see him in the second round pick, like you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you do want to see what's there. Um,

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Speaker 1: But the question is when what do you anticipate now

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00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 1: from coach Bowls, offensive coordinate job, more quarterbacks, coach Jeremy

644
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: Bates in terms of splitting up the reps. Now when

645
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Speaker 1: these guys return in the spring and you do have

646
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Speaker 1: McCown Christian Hackenburger. I know we're gonna talk a lot

647
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: on Hackenburg today, but we we'd be remiss if we

648
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: didn't mention Bryce Petty started his first four games of

649
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: his career last year, experienced ups and downs. I had

650
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: the shoulder injury, non throwing shoulder, uh, repairing that torn labor.

651
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Speaker 1: So what about the challenges now for the coaching staff

652
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Speaker 1: as you head into an open competition with three quarterbacks

653
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Speaker 1: and I managed. Yet here's what I find interesting about

654
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Speaker 1: the situation. Whereas the Jets could theoretically draft a quarterback

655
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Speaker 1: at six, saying they will, I'm not saying they will,

656
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: but he right exactly, so I think now you're looking

657
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: at And he also said that he's not opposed to

658
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Speaker 1: keeping four quarterbacks on the roster if the situation warranted,

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00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: if it's the best thing for the team and everybody involved.

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Speaker 1: So could it be a situation where the Jets again

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Speaker 1: have four quarterbacks. I don't think so, But it's like

662
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Speaker 1: you said, it's not out of the realm of possibility.

663
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Speaker 1: And I think the challenge last year, even schan Gailey

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Speaker 1: talks about it. You know, how do you dig up

665
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: all the There's not enough reps to go around, and

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Speaker 1: I think that does hinder the development of younger guys

667
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: like a petty like a Hackenburg, because they're not getting

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00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: the physical like reps there. It's more mental. They have

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Speaker 1: to like just observe and you have to just hope

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Speaker 1: that are watching and listening and learning so that when

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00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: they do get a chance, you know, they can try

672
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: to put all together. But there's no substitution for being

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: out there in practice and getting you know, the football

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Speaker 1: in your hands. So it's gonna be fascinating spraying bottle. Yeah, no, no, no, regardless,

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Speaker 1: I mean, even if it's just these three guys, it's

676
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: gonna you know, well, and your thoughts number six overall,

677
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: because coach Bowls did say that today that it's not

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Speaker 1: all the realm of possibility that we select a quarterback

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00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: at six and he could be the opening day starter,

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00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: because I think he's following up him and Mike mccagnan,

681
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: they're a queen each other's sentiments, because, as you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike mccagnan said, all options are still on the table

683
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Speaker 1: at quarterback. So then you hear from Todd Bowls today

684
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: basically saying the same thing. Yeah, I mean, it's wild

685
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: to think about that that could be another guy. But

686
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: I think for any organization, if there is um a quarterback,

687
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: especially that you believe in, then you gotta go get him.

688
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: Same way the Jets moved up to get Sanchez all

689
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: the way to five. Um. You know, fans, you know,

690
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: people can look back and then say was that the

691
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: right move? Well, he's not here, he's not the guy anymore.

692
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: But I like the fact that Rex and tanam Boum

693
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: saw a guy that they wanted and said he's it. Um.

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Speaker 1: So if that's the same thing with mccagne now and Bowls,

695
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: then then I think as a fan, you gotta be

696
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: all for it. UM. I do think so that the

697
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: team has a lot of roster needs. UM. I think

698
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: that areas that need to be addressed. Um. So is

699
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: this the year to get a quarterback? I mean you

700
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: could all. You can say every year a year to

701
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Speaker 1: get a quarterback, But I think quarterback is not the

702
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: only need. No, You're right about that. What's your take

703
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: on a free agencyat to date? For the Jets that

704
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: released a number of veterans, you were all for the

705
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall story. Not only the Jets were releasing him,

706
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: but you had it. You had that he was going

707
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: to the Giants. And Brandon was here yesterday. Not only Brandon,

708
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: but Torrell Visa remains a free agent. Ryan Fitzpatrick out

709
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: there is a free agent, Mangold. I mean the list

710
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: Tod mentioned it today, the list of they lost a

711
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: lot of you guys lost a lot of big names, UM.

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: And guys that did that were productive. UM. Expected though,

713
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: or was it something that you could see on the

714
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: horizon after five and eleventh season. But nonetheless, it's still

715
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: a little shocking just when you see the name. I mean,

716
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 1: you look at the salary that some of these guys

717
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: were making. You just figure a team that's got to

718
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: create cap space, what's the obvious moves? And you've got

719
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: a lot of aging veterans, um, some you know, on

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00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: the down um side of their careers. Um. So if

721
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: you were paying attention at all, you knew these moves

722
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: were coming. But that still doesn't it's still not it's

723
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: still a shock to the system when you when you

724
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: hear like dwell Revas released, you know, like Nick Mangold,

725
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, um, even Nick Folk, I mean Folk hero

726
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: like that. I mean you know that still is like

727
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: whoa um. But there's just things that had to be done.

728
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: It's a business at the end of the day. Um.

729
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: But they did lose a lot of guys, and I

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00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: think Brandon is going to be a key loss in

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00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: the same way that I thought Snacks was, um, just

732
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: because of the position and how will that person fit

733
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: that role? Now, Brandon's coming off a bad year his

734
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: words not you know, admittedly so Um, but I think, yeah,

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00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: the losses are going to be interesting. The wide receiver

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00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: position is going to be very interesting because a lot

737
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: of that there last year. Todd Bowls did not have

738
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: an update on Eric Decker today, who's coming off a

739
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: pair of surgeries by Robbie Anderson, emerged in his first

740
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: season forty two catches. The Jets do like some of

741
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: the young guys that have Toronto Peak. He also addressed

742
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: um Jayla Marshall today who is especially He said, hey, listen,

743
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: if a guy comes in, it takes your spot while

744
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: you're gone, he takes your spot. Yeah, no, and I

745
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: think I mean the suspensions are the same as injuries,

746
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: sort of like if you're not on the field, you're

747
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: not on the field. Somebody else has to fit that.

748
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: It's slide in there and it's up to that person

749
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: to then take your job. That's again, it's a business. Um,

750
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: So you can't really hold Tome. You know, you can't

751
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: look at Tome and say like, what do you mean?

752
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: You know that's how it goes. Um. But they have

753
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys. Um, I'm curious what this.

754
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see when Decker is back. Um, and

755
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: what they do in the meantime, you know, like how

756
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: everything sort of just flows. Um. But I think if

757
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: you're a Jets fan, you have to be really excited,

758
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: um about about the young receivers. I think, um, you know,

759
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: I think added to the mix too. Yes, you got

760
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: a lot of it it up there, and they're gonna have

761
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: to be some guys who are gonna have to step

762
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: up now. A couple other names, let me throw it,

763
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Calvin Beecham, Morris Clayborne, and then Chandler Canton zero. What's

764
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: stands out about a couple of those sis. I think

765
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: all three of those signings, they are guys that, um,

766
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: they need to prove it. Um. You know, the kicker

767
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: didn't have channel, didn't have a good year last year,

768
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: but he's had good years priors. So it's so you know,

769
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a year where, like

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00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: Todd talks about Morris Clayborn, injuries are the only thing

771
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: that stopped this guy from from um putting together solid

772
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: seasons back to back to back. Um. So you know,

773
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: Todd said today, we took a flyer on him. If

774
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: he stays healthy, we're good, you know what I mean.

775
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: We're happy with that addition, Um, the same thing with feature.

776
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: You know, you've got some injuries going, so I think

777
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: them being healthy will determine a lot. Speaking of health,

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00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that point here in a second,

779
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: but let me tell you that Sale Palntonio from ESPN

780
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: is gonna pop on by uh. But right now we're

781
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: with Kim Martin from Newsday. You're watching live in New

782
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: York dot Com, Twitter and of course our app and

783
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Bridge Dawn it's official tire of the New York Jets.

784
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Day two at the NFL Owners Meetings. So, speaking of health,

785
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: coach Bowles was asked about Mohammed wokers in Today and

786
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: he said, hey, listen, I think he's played through pain

787
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: last year. And the other thing is that he expects

788
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: the Mohammed that the people have come accustomed to seeing

789
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: next year two seventeen, doesn't it. Yeah? No, And I think, um,

790
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: the Jets need that they need the mo of old Um,

791
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: the twelve sacks mo Um, because even last year I

792
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: talked to mo Um and he he had told me,

793
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: I think weeks six or weeks seven, Like I'm just

794
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: my foot's bothered me. Like, you know, I've been playing

795
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: through pain and that was the first time that he

796
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: had actually admitted it publicly. And I think, Um, that's

797
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: the tough thing when you've got a guy that's coming

798
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: off you know, broken leg, you know, still dealing with

799
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: residual pain. Um, but you know he's got a got

800
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: an off season now, Um, no surgery or anything like

801
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: that where you hope that he comes in and just

802
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: and just kills it. If you're a Jets fan, you know,

803
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: because you want to see him put up the double

804
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: digit sex again. All right, can We'll be following you

805
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: on Twitter and we can read you on Newsday. But

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00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: thank you so much for stopping by here at our

807
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: table here in Phoenix. And also I want to thank

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00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: not only Kim, but Um sal Pantonia is going to

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00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: join us right now for joining us here New York

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00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: Chess dot Com and Ian Rappaport from monfhone Network who

811
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: was here. And then we started this show with Cordel Stewart.

812
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: You can follow him on tune in. And here comes

813
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: Seal Pell right now batting and clean up. You need

814
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: a big hitter in that clean up spot, and we

815
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: bring in Cell. Great to see you, buddy. Um you

816
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: were at Todd Bowles table today at the AFC Coaches Breakfast,

817
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: just momentarily, what did you get from him? Uh? In

818
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: your brief stop over there? Well, you know what what

819
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: I got from him is listening. They're starting out fresh

820
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: on offense with a new offensive coordinator and a new

821
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, and they still haven't got the quarterback position

822
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: as settled as they wanted to be. So he's still

823
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: in a competition mode. That was were that he used

824
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: over and over again, Eric Uh. And now they got

825
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: the veteran Josh McCown and Price Petty and Christian Hackenberg.

826
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: But also the big headline was that he's not averse

827
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: to taking a quarterback with the number six pick. And

828
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: it looks like your old buddy South Palatonia is gonna

829
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: be up in Florham Park on Draft Day for that

830
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: six pick. Been there before, been there, done that. But listen,

831
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Speaker 1: you want. My view is if they like Trabinsky Mitch

832
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trobinsky, or they liked the Shaun Watson and either

833
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: one of them is there at number six, take one

834
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: of them. Don't be averse to taking a quarterback at

835
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: six because I think if they can build around a

836
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: franchise quarter ack of that value. You gotta try it.

837
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: I think it will excite the fan base. I think

838
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: it will stabilize the locker room. I think it does

839
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I like Deshaun Watson. I'm excited

840
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: for draft weekend because my buddy will be up in

841
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: flor That's gonna be good. So we have it a

842
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: little kept, little out reunion. You're a Watson fan, Um,

843
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: why why am I watching? Yeah? And also Trabinsky. I

844
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: find it interesting because the thing is the biggest knock

845
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: you hear about Trabisky is he played thirteen games. Yeah,

846
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: but I didn't mention Trabisky. I'm a Watson, I know,

847
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't go ahead. And I think Watson just exhibits

848
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: leadership qualities that you can't find elsewhere. You can't they're

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Speaker 1: not walking around on the street, right. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got that off the chart intangible. That's very very important. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was pretty interesting. Todd Bowles was asked

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Speaker 1: about what qualities he was looking and I wrote it down.

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Speaker 1: He was looking for a quarterback who didn't turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over and could manage the room. So I asked him,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean by managed the room? Well, you

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Speaker 1: know fits. He's talking about Fitzpatrick Fits manage the players

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Speaker 1: on the field and off, and he's looking for that

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Speaker 1: kind of personality. I think Watson has that personality. Now

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Speaker 1: a guy's a gamer and he's considered to be another

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Speaker 1: player loaded with intangible It's just like today for mentioned

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Speaker 1: Josh mccowby, as everybody talks to the raves about Josh

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Speaker 1: McCown in tangible WHI is obviously different players. This is

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Speaker 1: the perfect guy that I think as a bridge the

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Speaker 1: fourth guy. Now, you mentioned two things about uh managed

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Speaker 1: the room and turnovers. Are you concerned about Watson's turnovers

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Speaker 1: at the collegiate level. You're always concerned about turnovers at

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Speaker 1: any level. I think that's really important, especially because that's

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Speaker 1: something that has, you know, really been a problem for

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Speaker 1: the Jazz. It's at the quarterback position. And Todd Bowl's

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Speaker 1: defensive minded coach. He doesn't want to put his defense

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Speaker 1: behind the sticks, which is what will happen with turnovers.

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Speaker 1: It'll kill you. We saw it up in Buffalo and

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Speaker 1: they had a chance to secure that played off with

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Speaker 1: and you had three turnovers by the quarterback. So it

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Speaker 1: was a three I think it was three three interceptions,

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Speaker 1: there was three or four, It was a lot. Now

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Speaker 1: so the top balls also told the media today he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get more involved in the offense. Do you see that?

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Speaker 1: Because you you cover that, you cover every coach of

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Speaker 1: the National Football League with your position, all thirty two teams.

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Speaker 1: Is then a natural evolution for head coach should have

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Speaker 1: happened sooner? I think, yeah, I mean, you know you're

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Speaker 1: in a head coach and the offense is not performing

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Speaker 1: up to the level that you want. I mean, you

885
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Speaker 1: got to you gotta step in, You gotta have an impact,

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Speaker 1: You gotta put your footprint on things. And I think

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Speaker 1: Todd wants to do that. Now. Um, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about the off season today with the Jets releasing

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Speaker 1: a number of prominent, big time bets and and then

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Speaker 1: picking up some guys like McCown, Morris Clayborne, who's been,

891
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Speaker 1: like Todd said today, really good player when he's been healthy. Uh,

892
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Speaker 1: Calvin Beach, Um, my guy was very effective in Pittsburgh,

893
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Speaker 1: kind of slowed by knee injury and Jacksonville last year's

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Speaker 1: he's coming back from a knee is really but the

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Speaker 1: Jets have high hopes for him as well. Well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they it just got rid of you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of aging, expensive players, and that's gonna happen. But when

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Speaker 1: you're three years in uh and things haven't gone your

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Speaker 1: way and you're going in the wrong direction, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to allocate resources in different ways. And I

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Speaker 1: think that uh, you know that that came down from

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Speaker 1: the top obviously clearly. But I think it's something that

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowls was clearly uh, in in line with in

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Speaker 1: agreement with so um. I'm I'm looking for this team,

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Speaker 1: in my view, to slowly build back up to where

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Speaker 1: they were two years ago. Right ESPN Stale Palantonio here

907
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Speaker 1: at the NFL Owners meetings in Phoenix. It's gonna take

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Speaker 1: a little Twitter question for a cell and he knows

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Speaker 1: it's very well. This comes in from Devon. What is

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Speaker 1: the biggest difference between Eagles fans and Jets fans? I

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Speaker 1: don't one. I don't think there's much. I think they're

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Speaker 1: both long suffering. I think they both BLeague green. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think they all want to go back

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Speaker 1: to the heyday. But you know, the biggest difference between

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans and Jets fans. The Jets tasted a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl victory and Super Bowl three, and the Eagles have

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Speaker 1: yet to win a Super Bowl. So the Eagles are

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Speaker 1: really I think more even though the Eagles were back

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Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl in two thousand and four. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, to me, they still the Jets fans can

921
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Speaker 1: hang their hats on Joe Namathan super Bowl three. The

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Speaker 1: Eagles cannot know you're talking about back. So you said

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Speaker 1: you like the Shawn Watson. The Eagles looks like they

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Speaker 1: found their guy last year in Carson once. And there's

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Speaker 1: a team who would targeted there player and said we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go get him, and this is our guy. So

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Speaker 1: if you're the Jets and you love a quarterback, you

928
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Speaker 1: like that philosophy, Hey, listen, you take one at six.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what anybody else feels. It's what's best

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Speaker 1: for you in this organization right now, I agree, Eric,

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Speaker 1: I think if you like him and he's there, take

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Speaker 1: him and don't worry about the criticism from the outside.

933
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Speaker 1: And also don't look back. All right, Well, we took

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Speaker 1: Hackenburg in the second round and he was the pick

935
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Speaker 1: of the GM and maybe we made a mistake. You know,

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Speaker 1: teams make mistakes with draft picks. And if that was

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Speaker 1: a mistake. It was a big one because last year

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Speaker 1: you could have used the defensive player in the second round.

939
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Speaker 1: If that's the case of Hackenburg doesn't work out, but

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Speaker 1: don't base your decision on Watson and number six by

941
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Speaker 1: what happened last year. Yeah, and Hackenberg by them line,

942
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Speaker 1: he's got your minus opportunity right now. You just heard

943
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Speaker 1: from the head coach today said hey, listen, this is

944
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Speaker 1: an open competition. So if you're Christian Hackenburg, you're coming

945
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Speaker 1: back and saying going into John Morton, the new Jets

946
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, his office, You're going Toto Jeremy Bates office

947
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Speaker 1: when you can, when the dark period is over, and said, hey,

948
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Speaker 1: what can I do? I'm ready to roll because, like

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Speaker 1: Tabol said today, he should have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: pep in his step knowing that that opportunity is in

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Speaker 1: front of him. Uh. Another question coming in for Sal

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Speaker 1: Palatonio here at the NFL owners meetings in Phoenix, why

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Speaker 1: isn't Joe Cleco in the Hall of Fame? Cell? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good question. Uh. And I think Joe Cleco will have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity before the Seniors Committee, that's right. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: in a few years, I do He's got Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame credentials? Do you do you think that? And I'm

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Speaker 1: on as you know, I'm on the selection committee. I'm

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Speaker 1: not on the Seniors committee. But if Joe I'll just

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Speaker 1: say this, and Joe Cleco is presented by the Seniors Committee,

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Speaker 1: I would vote for Joe Cleco to go to Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. Yeah, so there you go. You don't needed

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Speaker 1: are you with sell over here? Since you are in

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Speaker 1: the committee. Uh, let me ask about Kevin what um

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Speaker 1: he was a finalist this year? Yes, what do you

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Speaker 1: think of You can't give away state secrets, but potentially

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Speaker 1: as candidacy moving forward, vigorous debate over offensive lineman. I

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Speaker 1: thought Kevin wise, the presentation that was made in the

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Speaker 1: room was terrific. He leap frog over a number of

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman because of endorsements from coaches such as Bill Parcels,

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Speaker 1: which you know, when you get an endorsement like the

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Speaker 1: one that was presented by Bill Parcels in the room,

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Speaker 1: people are gonna stand up and pay attention. Endorsements from

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Speaker 1: Curtis Martin. These are two Hall of famers Parcels and Martin.

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Speaker 1: So you know, to me again, you're allowed to talk

976
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Speaker 1: about your vote. I voted for Kevin Ware and I

977
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Speaker 1: think Kevin White will get into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: I think he should and he will. How about that.

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Speaker 1: That's that's where we're gonna end. But I will say

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Speaker 1: that's too. Sal Palestonio was at the draft a couple

981
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Speaker 1: of years back, and we went through the first round,

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Speaker 1: and he said, watch Geno Smith, Watch Geno Smith. The

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Speaker 1: Jets might take Geno Smith. And sure enough, the Jets

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Speaker 1: took him in the second round. Don't hold me, don't

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Speaker 1: hold me account no, no, no, But what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that you you had a good idea what was happening here.

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Speaker 1: So you'll be in Floring Park this year and perhaps

988
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Speaker 1: the Jets could go for a quarterback again. We'll see. Listen.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily have to be in the first round either, Listen.

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Speaker 1: I was it was. I was there for the Sanchez

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Speaker 1: pick and the Geno Smith pick. They don't send me

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Speaker 1: to Fluoring Park for nothing. How about it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: leave it right there, right right now. That's Sell Palestonio

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Speaker 1: from ESPN. Not only great thanks to my special friend

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Speaker 1: over here, but also Kim Martin from Newsday, Ian Rappaport

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