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Speaker 2: in no particular order, talking quarterbacks today, but also backup

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks as well, the Cleveland Browns, I believe, have six

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in their quarterback room. There's a chance they keep

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Speaker 2: four to start the season. And the reason why I

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Speaker 2: bring this up, it's for a variety of reasons, but

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Speaker 2: I think the most important one is your backup quarterback

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Speaker 2: situation with the Rams with Matthew Stafford. They got Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 2: That's a high end backup. I mean, you got a

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Speaker 2: backup who started in the Super Bowl. We don't know

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Speaker 2: the severity of Matthew Stafford. It feels like it's day

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Speaker 2: to day with the back issues there. But this is

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Speaker 2: a team that can challenge to win the NFC. They're

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Speaker 2: that talented and it might come down to Matthew Stafford's health.

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Speaker 2: And if that's the case, Jimmy Garoppolo, how much does

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Speaker 2: he play? Stetson Bentett is the backup to the backup.

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Speaker 2: But look at some of these situations around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and you need to have if you're a really good team,

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Speaker 2: you kind of have to have a really good backup

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Speaker 2: because if your starter goes down, you don't want the

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Speaker 2: season to go down as well. But we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: that coming up. And the Cleveland Browns brought in Tyler Hunting. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you look at the headlines, it's Brown's bring in

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Speaker 2: former Pro Bowl Pro bowler Tyler Hunting, and I went, well, okay,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The reality is he made the Pro Bowl in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two. His stats this year two touchdown passes, three

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Speaker 2: interceptions and rushing for one hundred and thirty seven yards.

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Speaker 2: The Pro Bowl used to mean something, and he did

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Speaker 2: a pretty good job with Lamar Jackson's absence when he

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Speaker 2: going to the Cleveland Browns and you already have a

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Speaker 2: quarterback heavy room. When you have that many quarterbacks, you

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Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback. Joe Flacco's age, the inexperience of

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Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, and then the curiosity of

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett. They're all injured, but not you know, serious injuries,

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Speaker 2: but you still have nagging injuries and you're trying to

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Speaker 2: get everybody enough reps. It feels like it's Joe Flacco's

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Speaker 2: at the beginning Kenny Pickett was going to be the

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Speaker 2: four quarterbacks with Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel. Now you

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Speaker 2: bring in Tyler Hunting as well, but I think that's

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Speaker 4: A preseason game coming up.

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Speaker 2: I think this Friday, you got to have somebody play

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Speaker 2: other backup quarterback situations here and the importance speaking of

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Speaker 2: what Chris Sims, who was a backup quarterback for a

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Speaker 2: The college football rankings came out. It's Texas, Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: Penn State, Georgia, Notre Dame, Clemson, Oregon, and Alabama. And

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Speaker 2: we were wondering, when's the last time you had the

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Speaker 2: two top teams in the country meeting to open up

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Speaker 2: the season. This is the first time it's happened in

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Speaker 2: arch Manning. We're going to get a really good idea

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Speaker 5: For really, what is your first game? That's you can

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Speaker 2: Here's another thing that I found interesting. I find this

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Speaker 2: voters felt that way too, because you have Texas, Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: think that's what's interesting. These are sort of the usuals,

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Speaker 2: the usual suspects. I like Clemson a lot more than

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Speaker 2: I probably thought I was going to Oregon's in there,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Texas, and it should be a fun season.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when we're adding four more teams to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. It's probably next year. But once again, it's

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Speaker 2: gray area there. It's just like the NCAA Tournament more madness.

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Speaker 2: I was told two weeks ago, get ready for a

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Speaker 2: decision if they're going to expand or be status quo.

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Speaker 2: Well we finally got around to that yesterday where they

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Speaker 2: said they're not going to expand March madness, which I

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Speaker 2: think is really good. I would like them to take

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Speaker 2: to happen. We always add, we never subtract. And if

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Speaker 2: you're at sixty eight, I do think we'll eventually get

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Speaker 2: to seventy two. And I'm told you might get to

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Speaker 2: seventy six as well before the end of this decade.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, sorry, are my eyes deceiving me?

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Speaker 3: Texas at Ohio State August.

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Speaker 2: Thirtieth, noon, Yeah, yeah, oh wow, big noon kickoffs?

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. I think has got a lot of noon kickoffs.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're too play I think Ryan days

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Speaker 2: to please with the big noon kickoff there, but all

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Speaker 2: eyes will be on that. You would think that's a

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Speaker 2: Saturday night type game, right, yeah, Ston.

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Speaker 5: But you might be if you're say Texas and arch Manning,

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Speaker 5: you might love Just wake up, get to the field,

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Speaker 6: You're not sitting around all day waiting to go all

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Speaker 5: Here, okay, stay LuSE gotta the just get the game,

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Speaker 5: let's play.

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Speaker 2: I was watching the nineteen eighty three NFL Draft, the

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Speaker 2: John Lway Draft and Dan Marino. I was watching the

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Speaker 2: thirty for thirty last night. That took place in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I think it started at eight am and at noon.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm there. I met the Mary Atte Marquis and

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Speaker 2: And I don't remember if how many players were there.

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Speaker 2: you usually wait and you want it out. You want to,

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, I think started at eight am and ended at.

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Speaker 4: Noon that day. All right, see what's pull question today?

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Speaker 5: Well, we probably got a gajillion of them off of

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Speaker 5: the college football list there. That's a lot that one

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Speaker 5: exactly one gajillion. Yes, we also have a couple of

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Speaker 5: if you're a pro athlete, are there any circumstances where

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Speaker 6: Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: All right, well, this is a Shadoor Sanders talking about

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Speaker 2: why he doesn't want Dion Sanders at training camp.

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Speaker 7: I don't want him come in to see me right

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Speaker 7: now because I want to get to where I want

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Speaker 7: to go in for him to see me now, I

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Speaker 8: You know, get a couple of reptions.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's cheering like a good dad, like, nah,

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Speaker 7: you can't be proud of me right now. I gotta

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Speaker 7: of like I just want everything that I'm doing is

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't want to know distraction because we

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Speaker 8: know out of media, we know how everybody would.

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Speaker 7: Take it and take away from the team just from

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Speaker 8: So you know, it's a gift that occurs at the

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Speaker 2: It's a great answer, and by all accounts, he has

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Speaker 2: I know we've had the speeding tickets. By all accounts though,

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Speaker 2: how he handles himself with the veterans when he's in

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Speaker 2: preferential treatment. And once again, this is somebody with the

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Speaker 2: It felt like a I don't know, let's just take

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Speaker 2: him after you take Dylan Gabriel. Now that's aside from

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Speaker 2: done what you've wanted, expected, hoped for and coming to

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Speaker 2: camp would be a spectacle. It would lead Sports Center,

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Speaker 2: it would be a big big deal. Should Or is

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Speaker 2: trying to earn this job, and it's tougher because he

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Speaker 2: is should Or Sanders. Does it open doors, yes. Do

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Speaker 2: eyes are on you. They want to know can you

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Speaker 2: play the position at a high level? And I think

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Speaker 2: what he said is, Dad, let me wait till I'm

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Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback. Let me wait till I'm the starter here,

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Speaker 2: then if you want to come to camp. Dion did

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Speaker 2: go to Shiloh Sanders. He's with Tampa Bay. I think

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Speaker 2: he was undrafted free agent. But I think he has

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Speaker 2: a chance to make the team. But it has to

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Speaker 2: be a little bit awkward though, if I'm a coach

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Speaker 2: and Dion's in town and all of a sudden, you know, man,

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Speaker 2: how Shiloh doing. Hey, peg puts.

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Speaker 4: In the work.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know he's got a chance. Like you kind

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Speaker 2: of have to say something nice. It's like when you

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Speaker 2: go to a parent teacher conference when your kid is

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Speaker 2: young and you know that she's a problem in class,

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Speaker 2: but they go, well, you know, she's interesting, she's got

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Speaker 2: good spirit there. You know, they try to tell you

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Speaker 2: something positive there. But Shiloh may make the roster in

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and maybe the Cleveland Browns keep four quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: even though they got six in there.

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Speaker 4: Now, Yes, Tod, And.

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Speaker 9: Why would you want any hint at all or appearance

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Speaker 9: of preferential treatment that's not to say that any head

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Speaker 9: nicer or give you a better chance to be a

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Speaker 5: Do you think the say, national champion this year in

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Speaker 5: I do think it's interesting that Texas, Ohio State, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ohio State has twenty and Texas is twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: I gave you Ohio State, Texas, Penn State.

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Speaker 4: Did we decide on the poll question?

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Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, we're gonna go with.

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Speaker 5: This year's national champions will be either Texas, Ohio State,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's awesome, especially where I think a

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Speaker 11: That's changed, So that to me makes college football a

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Speaker 11: They do everything big down in Texas, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Arch Manning Heisman Trophy candidate, one of the top ones.

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Speaker 4: Dan, How often do teams tank in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: Not very often, right.

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Speaker 11: The problem is the front office might tell the coaches

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Speaker 3: So the front office and ownership might try.

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Speaker 11: To set it up to hey, I hope we don't

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Speaker 11: They're trying to tank the game. I don't care. This

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. I'm going all out.

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Speaker 11: And more times than not, the teams that do that,

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Speaker 3: The hell with them. I'm going to coach great this.

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Speaker 11: Week all Jurra May Week eighteen last year, screwing over

435
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Speaker 11: the New England Patriots. Right, So yeah, that's where it's

436
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Speaker 11: hard to just full out tank. Maybe to the same

437
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Speaker 11: extent some of the other sports can pull it off,

438
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Speaker 11: it's a little different in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host you'll see

440
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Speaker 2: him on Football Night in America's podcast is called Unbuttoned,

441
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Speaker 2: former NFL college quarterback. The Rams situation I find really

442
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Speaker 2: intriguing because it feels like there's season which could be

443
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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl season is hinging on Matthew Stafford. Right now,

444
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Speaker 2: you do have Jimmy Garoppolo, but this is a team

445
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Speaker 2: that went toe to toe with the Eagles in Philadelphia

446
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Speaker 2: last year, and I don't see and you know why

447
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Speaker 2: they shouldn't be considered one of the favorites for the

448
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Speaker 2: NFC again this year. But what like a back injury

449
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Speaker 2: that's day to day or now it's been week to

450
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Speaker 2: week here, right, what are we looking at with Matthew

451
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Speaker 2: Stafford in the RAM.

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Speaker 3: It's a little concerning, but I'm not like overly concerned yet.

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Speaker 11: Good thing is they do have a Jimmy Garoppolo, and

454
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Speaker 11: I do think he could get you through two, three,

455
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Speaker 11: four games. But let's not get it messed up. Jimmy

456
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Speaker 11: Garoppo eight, Matthew Stafford. Stafford is special, and yeah, he

457
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Speaker 11: makes them a super Bowl team with all the things

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Speaker 11: they got around him. I'm with you in that conversation, Dan,

459
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Speaker 11: I mean, they are a super Bowl team. They had

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Speaker 11: the Eagles on the ropes like you talked about. I mean,

461
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Speaker 11: I was sitting there on the field watching it.

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Speaker 3: It happen.

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Speaker 11: They got everything you need, coaches, young talent, playmakers, quarterback,

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Speaker 11: all of it.

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Speaker 3: I won't be concerned. Well, you we heard McVeigh yesterday.

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Speaker 11: They say, I think you know, he's maybe about ten

467
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Speaker 11: days away. To me, that's encouraging. That means that they're

468
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Speaker 11: feeling like it's going in the right direction to where

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Speaker 11: he could practice. But if we get to like August twentieth,

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Speaker 11: August twenty third, and we're still still dealing with this,

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Speaker 11: I'd be a little like, oh man, I don't know that. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 11: that's a little worrisome. Hey, the lower back back is

473
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Speaker 11: a pain in the butt for a thrower of the football.

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Speaker 11: Tony Romo, damn, he had to retire because of it.

475
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Speaker 11: Troy Aikman had to retire because of it. My dad

476
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Speaker 11: had a little issues it happens because of that torking

477
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Speaker 11: you do as a quarterback all the time, over and

478
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Speaker 11: over and over, and sometimes your feet are in awkward

479
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Speaker 11: spots and you still tork And that's where they got

480
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Speaker 11: to be careful on that. They just got to make

481
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Speaker 11: sure it goes away, because it's one of those things

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Speaker 11: when you're lower back and you go, oh, I'm about

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Speaker 11: ninety five percent. I think I can go out there

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Speaker 11: today and do it. The first time he throws a

485
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Speaker 11: few lasers, he goes, oh, I'm back to sixty five percent,

486
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Speaker 11: And this is one you gotta make sure you do

487
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Speaker 11: your due diligence, make sure it's wiped away so that

488
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Speaker 11: he can get after it. But we know, man, this

489
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Speaker 11: is one of the damn toughest quarterbacks we've seen. I

490
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Speaker 11: expect him to be out there Week one ready to

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Speaker 11: go more threatening.

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Speaker 4: Rams are Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Oooh, I would say the I will go with the Rams.

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Speaker 8: Ok.

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Speaker 11: The Chargers are threatening, no question, And I got to

496
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Speaker 11: see them in person, and there's a real vibe in

497
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Speaker 11: that team and belief.

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Speaker 3: But that AFC West, we know how good it is.

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Speaker 11: I think it's arguably the greatest coaches in one division

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Speaker 11: in the history of football, if not definitely the greatest

501
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Speaker 11: coaches in one division. We know Mahomes is there. I

502
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Speaker 11: do think the Dan Broncos are real, right. We heard

503
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Speaker 11: Sean Payton say that the other day. I think the

504
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Speaker 11: Broncos are a team that like, Okay, people talking about playoffs,

505
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Speaker 11: but I think ours kind of a.

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Speaker 3: Sneaky Super Bowl contender, contender.

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Speaker 11: One of the best defenses in football only got better

508
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Speaker 11: with the two forty nine ers they signed in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Bo Nick's second year Evan Ingram at tight end.

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Speaker 11: I'd say, ooh, that's gonna be a nice addition for

511
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Speaker 11: Sean Payton and this RJ. Harvey they got in the

512
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Speaker 11: second round oft of Central Florida, I think has a

513
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Speaker 11: chance to be a real special player. So I put

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Speaker 11: Denver maybe a notch up above the Chargers as far

515
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Speaker 11: as that team that could surprise people and disrupt some

516
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Speaker 11: of the matchups we'd like to see in the AFC playoffs.

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Speaker 2: When does it become a concern to you, as a

518
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Speaker 2: former player now analyst, with what's happening with Micaeh Parsons.

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Speaker 2: At what point you know in this month, would you

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Speaker 2: then you start to have some real concerns.

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Speaker 11: I already have concerns, like I made the comment yesterday

522
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Speaker 11: with Florio on Pro Football Talk, like you know, circus

523
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 11: doesn't translate to Super Bowl, right. The football gods, they

524
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 11: can't look upon this and go, oh, this is the

525
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Speaker 11: way you handle a football team. The way they do

526
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Speaker 11: contracts is ridiculous. It costs them with having to pay

527
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Speaker 11: They could have got Michael Parsons for thirty four to

528
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Speaker 11: thirty five million dollars last year. Now they're gonna have

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Speaker 11: to pay more than forty one. They should forty three

530
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Speaker 11: forty four. And those are two or three players on

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Speaker 11: your football team. When you add that up to Dak

532
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Speaker 11: Prescott and Ceedee Lamb, and how they drag their feet

533
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Speaker 11: on all of that. But let alone like the owner

534
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Speaker 11: taking kind of like what cheap shots to a degree,

535
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Speaker 11: i'd Michael Parsons all his back's out there. This is contracts.

536
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Speaker 11: Oh he missed six games last year when he really

537
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Speaker 11: missed four. Right, They put out things like you know, oh, god,

538
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Speaker 11: she's a little bit of a pain in the butt

539
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Speaker 11: in the building, Like really, he could kick cowboy.

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Speaker 4: Hit buy a car when he said that. I mean exactly.

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Speaker 3: There's just been too many weird messaging.

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Speaker 11: Michael Parsons has handled it like a true pro been

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Speaker 11: there been, trying to be selfless, trying to be a

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Speaker 11: good leader. And then also the other part of it

545
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Speaker 11: that I can't stand Dan is like Jerry Jones, I

546
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 11: don't want the agent there, No crap, you don't want

547
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 11: the agent there, Jerry, this is your wheelhouse doing business deals.

548
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 11: I mean that's like meg, Hey, Jerry gets some shoulder

549
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 11: pads of a helmet and do a tackling drill against

550
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 11: Michael Parsons. That's like, it's like an equal conversation there,

551
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 11: not fair right, let alone against the bylaws of the

552
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Speaker 11: NFL and the CBA.

553
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Speaker 3: So it is a distraction. They can say what they want.

554
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Speaker 11: And I'm getting to the point where I think Micah

555
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 11: is gonna maybe have to play hardball and maybe he

556
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Speaker 11: has to start having a press conference like Jerry does

557
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 11: every few days and let everybody know what's really going on.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals situation kind of tapered off because of Micah

559
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Speaker 2: Parsons and the Cowboys getting all the oxygen in the room.

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Speaker 11: Right.

561
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Speaker 2: This a Bengal team that's all in on offense. But

562
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Speaker 2: you know, having an eyewitness who's watched the Bengals practice

563
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Speaker 2: twice and he said, defensive, they're in trouble.

564
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Speaker 11: I mean, they weren't a good defense last year. There's

565
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Speaker 11: not really a whole lot of Marquee household names on

566
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Speaker 11: the defense to make you think, oh wow, it's gonna

567
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Speaker 11: drastically turn around. Their biggest thing is they got Al

568
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Speaker 11: Golden and the new defensive coordinator there, right, and hopefully

569
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Speaker 11: he can be creative schematically to give them some advantages.

570
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Speaker 11: And I'm not shocked too to hear that it's not

571
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Speaker 11: going great for them at times. Right they are learning

572
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Speaker 11: a new defense, and damn you gotta go against Joe Burrow,

573
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Speaker 11: Chase and Higgins every day like we saw last year

574
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Speaker 11: that I don't care what defense you are, it's hard

575
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Speaker 11: to stop that crew right there. But man, it does

576
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Speaker 11: seem like there's gonna be a lot of pressure on

577
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Speaker 11: that offense. The Trey Hendrickson thing, not only did they

578
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Speaker 11: need him as a leader and he's the best player

579
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Speaker 11: on their defense. To me, it's twofold in the fact

580
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Speaker 11: that the kid they drafted in the first round, Shamar Stewart,

581
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Speaker 11: he's got superstar potential, but he's raw, he's simple. He

582
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 11: doesn't do any pass rushes moves. He just is like,

583
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Speaker 11: I just go that way and that's all I do.

584
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Speaker 11: So you're hurting his development by not having Trey hendrickson

585
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Speaker 11: there as well.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, hopefully they can get that ironed out.

587
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Speaker 11: Because man, when you watch Joe Burrow and company and

588
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 11: they're good and the AFC against of course Mahomes and

589
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Speaker 11: Lamar and Josh Allen, man, that just doesn't get any

590
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 11: better than that.

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Speaker 2: Do we give Joe Burrow a hall pass because he

592
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Speaker 2: beat Mahomes in Kansas City to go to the super Bowl?

593
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Speaker 2: But after that, I mean you're looking at not getting

594
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Speaker 2: to the playoffs a few years, right, even performance in

595
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: the play like I don't know.

596
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Speaker 11: I well, you know, he had them on the ropes

597
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 11: right the next year in the AFC Championship game and

598
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Speaker 11: they got the late hit out of Mounds on Mahomes

599
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 11: right where He's kind of like, oh man, it feels

600
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Speaker 11: like Cincinnati's about to pull this off.

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Speaker 3: So that happens. Injury has been an issue.

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Speaker 11: I think the fact that the Bengals do things dysfunctionally

603
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 11: does like maybe give him a somewhat of a free

604
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Speaker 11: pass to your point there, But you know all in all,

605
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Speaker 11: two years ago, they were hot late in the year

606
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Speaker 11: and he hurt his wrist. Injury has been his biggest

607
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 11: kryptonite last year. I don't know what else you can do, right,

608
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Speaker 11: I mean, damn his thirty points every game. He just

609
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 11: going up and down the field, throwing for two hundred

610
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Speaker 11: and eighty yards every game, three touchdowns. He carried the

611
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Speaker 11: team as much as you've seen anybody carry the team.

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Speaker 11: So no, I don't think we give him a free pass.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 11: Hey, we got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are all time

615
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 11: greats in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: They haven't even gotten to the Super Bowl yet.

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Speaker 11: They haven't even been able to beat that guy Mahomes

618
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Speaker 11: one time yet in these damn playoff games or anything

619
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Speaker 11: like that.

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Speaker 3: So that's one to me.

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Speaker 11: One of the cool storylines of the year is can

622
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Speaker 11: Lamar and Josh Allen his talent and as awesome a

623
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Speaker 11: quarterbacks as I've ever seen in my life have yet

624
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Speaker 11: to be to a Super Bowl. Could this be the year?

625
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Speaker 11: I don't know, but yeah, it's pretty unreal with the

626
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Speaker 11: quarterbacks in the AFC, and I think Joe Burrow is

627
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Speaker 11: truly phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me the team that you like, sneaky team

629
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Speaker 2: that you like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, sneaky team. All right.

631
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Speaker 11: So here's one that I don't think a team gets

632
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Speaker 11: put en up in the in the super Bowl window.

633
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Speaker 11: I think the Houston Texans are going to be one

634
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Speaker 11: of those teams this year that I'll just say that.

635
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Speaker 3: I know they're not sneaking up on anybody.

636
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Speaker 2: As far as playoffs, Well, they jumped off the bandwagon

637
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: last year, right.

638
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Speaker 11: I think, And I think a lot of that had

639
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Speaker 11: to do with the offensive coordinator and some of the

640
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 11: issues there. The defense is awesome, that's not even you know, disputable.

641
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Speaker 11: Nico Collins was hurt a bunch last year. They lost

642
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 11: Stefan Diggs, their pass protection was pitiful.

643
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Speaker 3: I think they'll be better at receiver, and I think

644
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Speaker 3: you'll see CJ.

645
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Speaker 11: Stroud have more of a hand in the pass protection

646
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Speaker 11: this year. So I would put them in that super

647
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Speaker 11: Bowl window or they're a little underrated in my opinion.

648
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Speaker 11: I think another the New England Patriots are of course

649
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Speaker 11: the other team i'd look at to go watch out.

650
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Speaker 11: It just seems like between that coaching staff, they one

651
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Speaker 11: of the teams that won the offseason where i'd go.

652
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 11: We are sitting here late December, going man New England.

653
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 11: If they win this week, they could go to the playoffs.

654
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Speaker 11: I would not be shocked by that at all. That's

655
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Speaker 11: one and one more I'll though to you. The Jets

656
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 11: have the talent to surprise people. Look at youth. People

657
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 11: are overlooking it. But they got some talent. I mean

658
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 11: they do. And I believe in Aaron Glenn and I

659
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 11: don't think they're gonna make it all about the quarterback.

660
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 11: They're gonna run the ball, They're gonna play defense. There'll

661
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 11: be a pain in the butt. But I think my

662
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 11: leader there would probably be New England and one of

663
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Speaker 11: those teams that you're talking about as far as that

664
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Speaker 11: just really jumps out and surprises us.

665
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Speaker 4: Good stuff, good stuff.

666
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: I like you fired up. I gotta I gotta get

667
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: you defensive to start out.

668
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: And when am I not fired up? I don't know.

669
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Speaker 3: You tell me, you.

670
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: Know, because you know your dad. Little nepotism. And then yeah, yeah.

671
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Speaker 11: Hey, tell those jerks you got on the show with you.

672
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 11: I said, hi, right, oh, I said hi, woll I'm

673
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Speaker 11: fired up?

674
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Speaker 2: All right, Hey hey jerks. Chris Sims says, hello, thank you, Chris.

675
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: All right, Dan always good being on.

676
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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live co host.

677
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: You'll find him with Mike Florio. The show that precedes

678
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: ours and the Jerks is a little rough, all right.

679
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: A little rough.

680
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 5: I are used to that now, That's kind of our relationship. Okay, right,

681
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Speaker 5: let me.

682
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Speaker 2: Take a break. When we come back. Play of the Day.

683
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Speaker 2: Seaton gives us his review of the next two episodes

684
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: of Tom Brady. The first two episodes didn't go well

685
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: for the five part series. It is a five part series.

686
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: We were wondering about Tom's character arc in the documentary.

687
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: Maybe the reviews are a little better today than they

688
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: were yesterday.

689
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Speaker 1: Back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

690
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Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows

691
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692
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live. He somehow forgot about us yesterday.

693
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that was possible. He's the freshly minted

694
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Sterling Sharp, the former Packer wide receiver.

695
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Speaker 1: How does that happen that you forget about us yesterday?

696
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: When you kept saying, Hey, I'm there for you.

697
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Speaker 8: I was there for you in spirit.

698
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Speaker 4: Oh your.

699
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now you're a Hall of Famer and uh lois song.

700
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Speaker 8: No, I would never blow my guy up.

701
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Speaker 2: You know what you want? You know I do, go

702
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: ahead say it.

703
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 8: No, man, do not make me say it.

704
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Speaker 4: Okay, Uh what do you got on there? What are

705
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Speaker 4: you wearing?

706
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Speaker 2: My brothers our logo for eighty eighty four? Oh, I'm sorry? Wow,

707
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: the four for the four is a little bigger. Yes,

708
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Speaker 2: that's what we wanted eighty eighty four.

709
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Speaker 4: Not for you, that is.

710
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Speaker 8: Yet.

711
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Speaker 2: Keep up, Dan, keep up. How did it take so

712
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 2: long for you to get into the Hall of Fame?

713
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 8: I honestly don't know, and I don't think it took

714
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 8: long enough. I think I could have waited another two

715
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 8: hundred years, Dan, I didn't play football to get into

716
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Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame. I played football because I loved

717
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 8: the game. And you know, I wasn't waiting, you know,

718
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 8: me and you were playing a lot of golf while

719
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Speaker 8: I wasn't in the Hall of Fame back in the day.

720
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 8: So I was just golfing my ball, enjoying myself.

721
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Speaker 2: Was there ever a point where you thought I'm not

722
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Speaker 2: going to get in?

723
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Speaker 8: No, there was never a point where I thought I

724
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 8: would get in or wouldn't get in. I never thought

725
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 8: about it. I just I never thought about it because

726
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 8: you know, the thing is is I played, and I

727
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 8: played really well. For me. I enjoyed how I played,

728
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 8: what I put on film, the people I played with,

729
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 8: and that was enough for me. So I never, you know,

730
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 8: wanted to have an advocate for me, you know, I

731
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 8: push the envelope or remind them that I'm I'm out here. No,

732
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 8: I just I did what I wanted to do, and

733
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 8: I was enjoying being at the Hall of Fame in

734
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 8: twenty eleven when my brother would take me back to

735
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 8: the injury, which part the part that we found out

736
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 8: in high school, and I could have played one play

737
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 8: or I could still be playing. The worst episode on

738
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 8: the field was probably against the Atlanta Falcons, but I

739
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 8: had had twenty thirty episodes over the years based on

740
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 8: my vertebrae and my spine were getting real close together,

741
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 8: laying on the field, having Andre rise and make me laugh,

742
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 8: and my friend teammate from South Carolina, Brad Edwards, coming

743
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 8: over to make sure I was okay. There's a lot

744
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 8: of moving parts to my injury then, and the thing

745
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 8: was is there was only two people that were happier

746
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 8: than me when my career ended, and that was the

747
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 8: two doctors that said I should never play football again.

748
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: Oh well, but if you played now, there's nothing there's

749
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: no technology that if you got this injury now, would

750
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: have enabled you to continue to play.

751
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 8: Well. The thing is is my neck at the time

752
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 8: it got fixed was probably stronger than anyone else's neck.

753
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 8: International Football League. But you're talking about life, liberty and

754
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 8: the pursuit of happiness, and you have to ask yourself,

755
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 8: am I willing to take that chance? You know? Am

756
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 8: I willing to go out there and have everything in

757
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 8: this fusion? Do I want to put it to the test?

758
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 8: I didn't. I did Like you know, if I felt

759
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 8: like I left something, then I probably would have tried

760
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 8: to continue to play. But I didn't. I didn't leave

761
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 8: anything in football. I didn't. I did what I wanted

762
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 8: to do. A lot of people are having a hard

763
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 8: time with that statement. I did what I wanted to do,

764
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 8: which was just play. Not play in a Super Bowl,

765
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 8: not be a Hall of Famer, not be an All

766
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 8: Pro player, not lead the league in said category. I

767
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 8: just wanted to play, and I got to do that

768
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 8: for seven years and that was good enough for me.

769
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Speaker 2: What was your first thoughts when you laid eyes on

770
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: Brett Favre.

771
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Speaker 8: Had I had seen Mark Wilson, Randy Wright, but Keys,

772
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 8: Mike Nor said, Mike Tom Zach, Anthony Gilwig, Don Makowski,

773
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 8: and they were all really good friends of mine. They

774
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 8: were all good players, they were in the National Football League.

775
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 8: But when I first saw him, there was nothing that

776
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 8: he did set or that would allow you to think

777
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 8: that he was going to turn out to be what

778
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 8: he turned out to be.

779
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: And what do you mean by that?

780
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 8: He was just another guy. You know, if you brought

781
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 8: in a quarterback from Atlanta, you gave up whatever you

782
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 8: gave up for. Okay, you know, Mike Congreen is our

783
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 8: new coach. We got a new system, We got a

784
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 8: bunch of new moving parts, and he is one of

785
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 8: the new moving parts. So not knowing him or his background,

786
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 8: he was just another moving part. And you know, it's

787
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 8: just like, and I've been saying this all week, I said,

788
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 8: I understand what Michael Jordan felt like being in the triangle.

789
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 8: I understand what the late Kobe Bryant felt like being

790
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 8: in the triangle. I understand what Steph Curry feels like

791
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 8: being in the triangle. The great player doesn't have to change,

792
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 8: and the triangle or the West Coast offense and football

793
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 8: for us, I didn't have to change. And it fit

794
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 8: him perfectly. Because he had a little stronger arm than

795
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 8: Joe Montana, he could fit it in places. But he

796
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 8: had the fearlessness of Steve Young, I like to say,

797
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 8: and him in that system with his arm really made

798
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 8: it work for me.

799
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: What did it feel like to catch a ball from

800
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 4: farv A lot.

801
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 8: Of people like to think he threw hard, and I didn't.

802
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 8: I thought he threw you know, which allowed me to

803
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 8: cheat because I could kind of, you know, once the

804
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 8: ball got here, I could kind of turn away and

805
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 8: find out where contact was so I can get yards

806
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 8: after the catch. But I enjoyed the way Brett through football.

807
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 8: It looked a little more violent and vicious than it was.

808
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 8: He had great rotation, so once it hit your hands,

809
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 8: it stuck. Really enjoyed playing with him. I didn't think

810
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 8: he threw hard. Some of the other receivers he played

811
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 8: where it talked about him breaking their fingers. I didn't

812
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 8: have that problem. I loved the fact that he threw

813
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 8: a firm pass that could allow me to gain yards

814
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 8: after the catch.

815
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Speaker 2: Sterling Sharp, Pro Football Hall of Shamer packer wide receiver.

816
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: Most surreal moment from the weekend in Can't Ohio as.

817
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 8: What the Radnitski luncheon where there's just there's only Hall

818
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 8: of famers in the room. That is pretty powerful. That

819
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 8: is that is I don't know what the apostles felt

820
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 8: like being around, but it was kind of like that.

821
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 8: It's kind of like, wow, you know, you look around

822
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 8: and you know, any era, any decade, any season, and

823
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 8: you got one of those guys in there wearing a

824
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 8: gold jacket, and that was extremely powerful.

825
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 4: You know.

826
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Speaker 8: There was a couple of guys that I got to

827
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 8: meet that I didn't know. Steve Largent. I got to

828
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 8: spend some time with him, which was tremendous for me

829
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 8: because I really liked how crafty he was and how

830
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 8: he parlayed his skill set and to being a Pro

831
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 8: Football Hall of Famer. That was, you know, I got

832
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 8: a chance to spend some time with Mike Singletary, who

833
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 8: I played against for six fives six years I see

834
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 8: year in Chicago, gotten to sit next to him in

835
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 8: a couple of get togethers and meetings and talk. So

836
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Speaker 8: it was uh that Nichekie luncheon is uh, it's it's special, Dan,

837
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 8: it really is, and it is uh.

838
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: What was served at the luncheon that's humbling.

839
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

840
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 8: I don't even know if I that's what I'm saying.

841
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 8: It is. You know. Once once the doors closed and

842
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 8: it got quiet, it got really, uh, extremely surreal. And

843
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 8: the fact that I don't know where I am and

844
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 8: I'm not really sure looking around. I'm supposed to be here,

845
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 8: but if they haven't noticed me sitting here, then I'm

846
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 8: going to just be quiet and not be not draw

847
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 8: attention to myself. I kind of felt like that it

848
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 8: was It was extremely powerful to be in that room

849
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 8: with a tremendous group of football players that are that

850
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 8: I'm finding out are even better.

851
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: Meant a moment like that would be the highlight if

852
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: you had a capsule that you were going to keep

853
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: for grandkids and great grandkids and say, that's the moment.

854
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 8: Walking to that stage Friday night, to receive my gold

855
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 8: jacket and to have my little brother standing there in tears.

856
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 8: Nobody wanted this for me more than him. Nobody wanted

857
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 8: or felt like I should be in the hall of

858
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 8: Fame more than them. He has said publicly many times

859
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 8: how he feels about me and how he feels about

860
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 8: my career. But taking that walk through those Hall of famers,

861
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 8: hugging and high fiving them, and then that moment where

862
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 8: I got a chance to look up and see his

863
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 8: eyes and he wears glasses and they were fogged up

864
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 8: because he was crying, and you know, the tears were

865
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 8: streaming down, and then the embrace that he and I had.

866
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 8: It was at that moment that I felt I was

867
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 8: Hall of Fame. That moment for me set the stage

868
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 8: for what I felt, what I believe, what I saw

869
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 8: just that moment, which turned out to be a very

870
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 8: public moment, but it felt like it was just he

871
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 8: and I in the room.

872
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: I think your brother's speech helped you immensely getting into

873
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, if that makes sense, because I

874
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: think it reminded people of just maybe people forgot just

875
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: how great you were.

876
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 4: Your brother reminded people about them.

877
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 8: I can't say yes or no, Dan, I will just

878
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 8: agree with you, because you know, we've been friends for

879
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 8: a long time and I always agree with everything you say.

880
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 8: So I don't know, you know, no one knows the criteria.

881
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 8: No one knows how these things are set in motion

882
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 8: or what these things do. I you know, I'm not

883
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 8: going to disagree or argue with you. I'm just like

884
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 8: you know. I was enjoying myself not being a Hall

885
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 8: of Famer, and so to get the knock on the

886
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 8: door and to find out that my brother's giving me

887
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 8: the news was kind of surreal. And you know, and

888
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 8: I've said this before, Dan, I didn't want to be

889
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 8: a Hall of Famer. That's not one of the things

890
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 8: that when my career ended, I was looking at my wall,

891
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 8: going there's a space for a Hall of Fame something,

892
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 8: and I need to fill that space. No, I didn't

893
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 8: have that. I was extremely proud of playing football. I

894
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 8: was extremely proud of the way I played football, and

895
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 8: I was ready to move on with the part of

896
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 8: my life that led me to get a chance to

897
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 8: work with you. We did some really good work, especially

898
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 8: at the Super Bowls doing the eleven o'clock Sports Center.

899
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 8: But that's all I wanted to do, was play. And

900
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame came calling, and that was a

901
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 8: tremendously wonderful honor that I can't even begin to put

902
00:45:59,520 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 8: in work.

903
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: You're one of the most prepared analysts I ever worked with,

904
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: might might have been the most prepared analyst that you

905
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: had so much information you were giving information to other

906
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 2: analysts at the Super Bowl. Don't need to mention any names, no, no,

907
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: but you had a notebook and I was like, that

908
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: is research. So let me and I miss you as

909
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: a an NFL voice.

910
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 8: Thank you.

911
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: Let me make you an analyst just for this moment. Okay,

912
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: how would you be covering or what would your opinion

913
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: be of what's going on in Dallas.

914
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 8: I think it's normal. A lot of people would like

915
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 8: to believe, oh God, that's one of your best players

916
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 8: and you're not going anywhere. You're not building anything without him.

917
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 8: I agree with that. Michael Parson is basically saying that

918
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 8: the offers you've made are below my standards and I'm

919
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 8: not going to sign it. And until you bring them up,

920
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 8: I believe even him. Contracts are. The problem with contracts

921
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 8: is either the organization or the player feel that the

922
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 8: public sentiment is going to help them get the job done,

923
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 8: and it's not when Jerry Jones, when the spirit hits

924
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 8: Jerry Jones, the deal is going to get done or

925
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 8: it's not going to get done. I don't think this

926
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 8: is a marriage made in hell. I think something's going

927
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 8: to get worked out. I believe they're going to end

928
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 8: up on the same page. But then right now it

929
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 8: looks as though the pressure is on Jerry Jones. Well,

930
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 8: when this deal is done, the pressure is going to

931
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 8: refert back to the player. And then once you see

932
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 8: what the player, you can't get hurt, you can't miss meetings,

933
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 8: you can't be late, you have to be above reproach.

934
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 8: Once this deal is done, that's a lot of pressure

935
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 8: to be on playing a game that we love and enjoy.

936
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 8: So I think it's going to get worked out. I

937
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 8: just think right now logistically they're there's a lot of

938
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 8: cap issues that they're trying to negotiate around, and they

939
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 8: need time to be able to do it.

940
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 4: Did you lose your voice of the Hall of Fame?

941
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 8: Uh? Yes, I did. The Hall of Fame is it?

942
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: You know?

943
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 8: We did a lot of interviews and then Saturday night

944
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 8: at the party which you missed, there was cigar smoking

945
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 8: and drinking of the shape out of the Portuger my

946
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 8: brother's Kangnac. So yeah, we almost burned the building down.

947
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 8: We did uh.

948
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 4: Congrats great to thank you, great, thanks, great to see you.

949
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: Glad you survived, and good luck with your golf game.

950
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 8: More importantly, thank you very much. You know we're going

951
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 8: to be working on it this afternoon. I know.

952
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 4: But would you rather have a green jacket or a

953
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 4: gold jacket?

954
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 8: Oh? Green?

955
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 7: Green?

956
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 8: Okay, because you know, people already knew I played football.

957
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 8: But if I had a green jacket winning the Masters,

958
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 8: come on, Dan, that in itself? Would you know that

959
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 8: the green jacket? Being a football player, Oh yeah, I'd

960
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 8: rather have the green jacket than the goal.

961
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: I think now I think I have a better chance

962
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: of getting a gold jacket than you do a green jacket.

963
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 8: You actually do.

964
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 4: By the way, thank you man. You're very welcome. My friend,

965
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: that's a sterling shark.