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Speaker 1: and the Fannie Willis case down in Fulton County, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Seems like a lot of untruthed was said under oath

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Speaker 1: a boyfriend who had no experience on any of these

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Speaker 1: criminal matters that came up in the charges against Trump

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Speaker 1: and associates. The developing story that is coming out of

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Speaker 1: Georgia today is a judge now dropping some of the

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Speaker 1: rico charges against President Trump, and anyway, it's just a

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Speaker 1: kind of a fascinating development. Now, we usually have our

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Speaker 1: friend Matt Towery at the pollster from Insider Advantage on

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Speaker 1: the show. He's also got his own podcast about polling

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Speaker 1: with Robert Kahley. Have a link on Hannity dot com

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Speaker 1: if you want to listen to it is really well done.

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Speaker 1: But what many may not know is he once ran

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Speaker 1: for lieutenant governor in the Great State of Georgia and

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Speaker 1: was a Georgia legislator for a number of years and

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Speaker 1: was a TV star for a number of years. But

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Speaker 1: he's a lawyer by craft. Also joining us with him

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Speaker 1: is Chuck Clay, a former Georgia legislator and a former

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Speaker 1: gop A party chair. We're trying to get a little

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Speaker 1: inside baseball here. There's so many uncertainties regarding this case.

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Speaker 1: I've got to imagine the judge eventually has to disqualify

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Speaker 1: her from being involved in this case. And I would

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Speaker 1: say that the charges that have been laid out in

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Speaker 1: Georgia probably if they're gonna if they want to bring

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Speaker 1: them back up, they would need to get a new

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Speaker 1: venue for fairness number one and number two. What about

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Speaker 1: all the people that made plea deals and and people

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Speaker 1: will say, well, Hannity, they made it a deal, they

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Speaker 1: got to stick by it. A lot of people make

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Speaker 1: put in context anyway, welcome both of you, Chuck and Matt.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you both on the program.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure all right, Matt, we get to use you.

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Speaker 1: In a new capacity, not as the great polster and

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Speaker 1: accurate poster that you've been this entire campaign season, but

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Speaker 1: now as we put your attorney hat back on, even

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Speaker 1: though I know you've become an early bird special guy

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Speaker 1: And anyway, what's going on here with the Rico charges?

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Speaker 1: And what about all these people? If Fannie Willis is

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Speaker 1: what do they do with the people that pled guilty

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Chuck can speak better than that because

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Speaker 3: he actually was prosecutor one time. What I can tell

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Speaker 3: you is going on right now is you've had several

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Speaker 3: counts that weren't pled with enough specificity, and that's required

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Speaker 3: under George of law in order to move forward. And

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Speaker 3: so the judge set goes aside. And this case is

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Speaker 3: because the issues that have arisen with regard to the

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Speaker 3: this case has caused a delay and regardless of how

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Speaker 3: And I don't usually comment on members resword of bar,

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Speaker 3: but this case is going to be delayed, delayed, delayed,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the issue with being thrown out, as

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Speaker 3: I think most Georgia lawyers would agree, is unlikely. But

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if the judge is going to

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Speaker 1: Chuck, let's get your position on this case. And where

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Speaker 4: Well, you've got to slew at different levels. And I

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Speaker 4: know time is always short, but you've got the Rico

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Speaker 4: this case stays within this venue. And I think anything

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Speaker 4: in matter alluded to this. I think that anything that

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Speaker 4: new evidence that we all have heard and read about.

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Speaker 4: There's motions before the court to reopen evidence, and the

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they cannot reopen it. I'm not

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Speaker 4: certainly stating that it's true, but if there are allegations

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Speaker 4: to remember on the Rico side, and being the conservative

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Speaker 4: pimping and multi state theft. These were traditional cases and

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Speaker 4: it's an unbroken chain to get a successful prosecution. When

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Speaker 4: For the Rico statue to be utilized in a political arena,

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Speaker 4: that's not the same. You can't charge. I would have

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Speaker 4: it's quicker, but it is not as headline grabbing. Is

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Speaker 3: Allegation.

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Speaker 4: This is some octopus extending around the country, unbroken, all

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Speaker 1: Well, wasn't there sworn testimony in this case in this

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Speaker 1: analysis of Fannie Willis and the ethics case, contradicting both

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Speaker 4: Oath to absolutely if those matters get before the court

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Speaker 4: and the evidence has reopened under the underlying motions to

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Speaker 4: quash this, well.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, is it in this before the court?

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Speaker 1: Now is the judge that we learned this in his hearings?

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Speaker 4: Well, you've learned this in this hearing, but there has

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Speaker 4: been extensive corroboration by others former prosecutors. In fact, that

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Speaker 1: Let me pursue this a little further with you, based

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Speaker 1: And then of course then you've got email and text

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Speaker 2: I thought that all came out.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, let me say to just to put another

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Speaker 3: those all that testimony they had someone to impeach. It

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Speaker 3: this is certainly a different situation than anyone expected when

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Speaker 4: Let me just right, very quickly, that there is ample

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Speaker 4: that way. Being a politician, I guess both of us.

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Speaker 4: I think the credibility as you go forward. If she

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Speaker 1: Well, wouldn't this, wouldn't this, shouldn't the entire office be

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you? What they would do?

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Speaker 1: What about all these people, if you don't mind me

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Speaker 1: asking you, Chuck, what about all these people that made

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Speaker 1: I can remember, I don't think anyone got any jail time.

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Speaker 2: What about those people? And you know this, and Matt,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes people make a plea deal because they've got way.

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Speaker 1: there's some impact on your life. If, for example, you're

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Speaker 1: whatever that happens to be, you pay a fine. What

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Speaker 1: because they felt that they were guilty. Do those cases now,

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Speaker 1: as a matter of justice, have to be reopened.

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Speaker 4: It's very difficult to reopen criminal pleas that are done

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Speaker 4: knowingly involuntarily. However, having said that, Sean, your point is

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Speaker 4: well taken. As a lawyer for one of those defendants,

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Speaker 4: I would be seriously considered filing either a motion to

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Speaker 4: reopen an extraordinary mode from set aside conviction, and that's

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Speaker 4: one of these folks will be calling their lawyers and saying,

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Speaker 4: what are my options? Yes, there are options. It's difficult,

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Speaker 4: but there are extraordinary and there are emotions that could

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Speaker 1: Would do you say that these are extraordinary circumstances?

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Speaker 3: Most definitely, And I'll end with this from my side,

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Speaker 3: and that is the irony of all this that if

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Speaker 5: Individual charge in the indictment is charged with one count

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Speaker 6: Listen, people who enter the United States without our permission

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Chuck Schumer, illegal immigrant. You can't say they're undocumented.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and ninety four to one, Shawn our number

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Speaker 1: West Virginia Richard. Next on the Sean Hennity Show, Richard,

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Speaker 1: how are you? By the way, you know your state

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Speaker 1: And by the way, tell that to the fourteen year

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Speaker 8: For taking my call. Sean longtime list first on caller US.

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Speaker 8: Here's the thing, first of all, when it comes to

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Speaker 8: And yeah, I've been here. I'm just an old to hillbilly.

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Speaker 8: What he is illegal? And my public education, my public college,

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Speaker 8: When you talk about that party changeing, It's real simple.

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Speaker 1: There aren't many people, I'm sure that think like that idiot.

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Speaker 1: You know former Governor Northam out of Virginia who said, well,

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Speaker 1: I just look at it in a different way. I

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Speaker 1: where you appeal to people's hearts. At the end of

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Speaker 8: You agree with that, yeah, that makes sense, and you

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Speaker 8: and I basically grew up under Roe V. Wade. I

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Speaker 8: didn't care for it because I have a pretty you know,

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Speaker 1: To it, and well, it's really not any different of anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it allows states to be more restrictive than

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Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade in some cases. And you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know off the top of my head what

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Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen weeks. That's what my guess would be.

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Speaker 1: That seems to be where the consensus is in the country.

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Speaker 1: You know, Bill Clinton, of all people, said abortions should

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Speaker 1: be legal and rare. I would add legal, rare, and

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Speaker 1: early if you're just looking at it from the political

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Speaker 1: vantage point again politically so anyway, I hope that answers

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Speaker 1: your point there. I appreciate it. Back to our phones,

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Speaker 1: we have ETHA is with us. ETHA is in Washington State, Etha.

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Speaker 1: How are you glad you called hi?

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Speaker 7: Sean? Hey, listen, I was wondering why hasn't Congress invited

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Speaker 7: David Sierro, who used to be the National Archives Director

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Speaker 7: seems to me that this whole discussion in regards to

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Speaker 7: They're putting the cart before the horse. Jack Smith and

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Speaker 7: Robert Her are the are the carts? The horse is

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Speaker 7: the National Archives? Because David Sierro, why is it they

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Speaker 7: get four hundred million dollars? And why don't they have

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Speaker 7: one staff member assigned to an outgoing president, be it Obama,

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Speaker 7: be it Trump, be it Tence, be it Joe Biden

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Speaker 7: from the Naval Observatory or from the White House. Why

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Speaker 7: doesn't the National Archives they get paid a bunch of money,

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Speaker 7: they have only one darn job, in my opinion, to do,

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Speaker 7: which is to make sure that there is classified documents

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Speaker 7: taken in blah blah blah. Now these people are moving

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Speaker 7: out of the Naval Observatory in the White House and

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Speaker 7: they're moving, and so why isn't there somebody from the

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Speaker 7: National Archives there? So why doesn't Congress have David Sierro,

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Speaker 7: who was the former National Archives person, as well as

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Speaker 7: Colleen shogin in front of Congress and questioning them, what

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Speaker 7: is your policy? What is the National Archives policy?

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Speaker 1: To help I hear everything you're saying and the answer

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Speaker 1: to your question is there isn't one standard.

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Speaker 2: It just isn't.

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Speaker 1: And because they've allowed this to happen administration after administration

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Speaker 1: after administration, and that's on them, frankly. But this is

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Speaker 1: far worse, but they didn't hold they didn't hold them

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Speaker 1: to account. Yeah, we're spending a lot of money, and

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Speaker 1: what do we have we have, you know, nothing but

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Speaker 1: It's sad, it's really scary too. All Right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: wrap things up for today.

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Speaker 2: We are loaded up.

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Speaker 1: We have more fallout from the Her hearings, the Robert

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Speaker 1: her hearings. I always say, think Robert ben hur a

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Speaker 1: former nickname anyway, Jonathan Turley, We'll check in with Senator

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Speaker 1: Josh Hawley tonight, bad economic news across the board. We'll

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Speaker 1: check in with Brian Bremberg and Mike Huckabee. Also the mob,

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Speaker 1: the media losing their minds, Joe Conta, tutor Dixon will

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