1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from a 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: far away land. We are still out and about away 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: from Austin, Texas in Maine. Up here in Maine, as 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: we talked about, and if you didn't hear our podcast 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: from earlier in the week, please go back and listen 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: to it on National Grief Awareness Day as Lauren was 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: up here working at an experience camp. It was a beautiful, 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: beautiful episode, so please go back and check that out. 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: But we have. By the way, we got to give 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: a shout out to Ogunquit, Maine and Kenny Bunkport, Maine. 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Lauren and I had never been up here, which was 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of a beautiful thing that came out of this 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: camp as well. I said, I'm coming up there. I 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: have never been to this part of the country. Man, 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: it is spectacular. I wish everybody could look at what 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: we're looking at right now. 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: We're getting to pod looking at the ocean and it's 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: so beautiful. And then people here are so wonderful. If 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: you're coming up here, check out the restaurant that place. 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: Get ice cream at the Golden Rod. 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Yes, Golden Rod kisses, the best cookie dough ice cream ever. Yeah, 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: asked for Rick at that place. Just go sit at 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: the bar if you're old enough. It was an experience. 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: I was doing accent work. I was listening to the 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: East Coast accents and wanting to imitate them, and everybody 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: in there knew everyone, and it was just wonderful. And 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: I have to say, like, this was so great. Several 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: women came up to you and said hi, and I said, 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, do you want a picture? Because sometimes people 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: feel shy asking. Then this one woman goes, nah, I 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 2: don't need a picture. Happy I saw him, I'm old school. 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: It was great. People were wonderful. They have really embraced 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: us here and thank you. And we are slowly eating 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: our way one lobster roll and fried clam strips at 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: a time. 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: We had three cups of cham chat yesterday. My body 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: is questioning my dairy intake through and through. 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: But it's been a great week. And I've always wanted 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: to come to this part of the country and just 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: had never taking the time to experience it. And I 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: just I'm waiting for like the Kennedy's or the bushes 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: or are people just to. 45 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: It's very grand, is very good. What is my mind 46 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: to go to murder? 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: Here? 48 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: Look? Okay, I know that sounds weird, but like there's 49 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: something about when you're looking out at the ocean, it's 50 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: sort of mysterious. And if you're walking the beach at night. 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: I think fuxtaposition to the idyllic towns. You go through 52 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: these quaint, idyllic towns where you know everything is perfect, 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: but it's not. 54 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: But it isn't it's And I think of like beach reads. 55 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: You know, I love a beach read a lot of 56 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: the time. I like a beach read involving murder. For me, 57 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: a good beach read has to have like a little sexiness, 58 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: like a literal beach and murder. 59 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: So I elevated neutrals and elevated I want. 60 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: A Nancy Myers movie with a little murder. 61 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: How come every time you say murder, I don't know. 62 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but you came here to see me? 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: And actually, our playbook today is about when couples show 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: up for things in different ways, and I don't mean 65 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: that in a good way. I had this topic I 66 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: wanted to bring up. If anyone has seen the photos, 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: if not go check them out now of Justin Bieber 68 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: and his wife, Haley Baldwin Bieber showing up. 69 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: To a product launch. This was an official event that 70 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: they were at. 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: Haley collaborating with Crispy Cream Donuts on their strawberry glaze 72 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: because she's known for glaze, donut and nails. So this 73 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: is an official appearance they're at. Haley is in a 74 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: cute strapless red mini dress. She is in red heels. 75 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: She is looking she she looks stunning, She's beautiful. 76 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: Justin is in a gray hoodie, gray sweat shorts. 77 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: What do you call sweatpants and crocs? 78 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yellow yellow crocs with white socks on. 79 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: And this is taking care by. 80 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: The way, just stop full stop there, yellow crocs with 81 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: white socks. Just stop, by the way. 82 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Apparently just how the kids are wearing them now. So 83 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not in vogue. I'm not saying 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: he isn't stylish in his sweat outfit. But this has 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: taken the internet by storm because everybody's like, like the 86 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: meme are how the woman shows up versus her man. 87 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: Haley looking stunning in a red dress and heels, Justin 88 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: in sweatpants and crocs, and I actually think it's an 89 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: important topic because this has happened to me in relationships 90 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: in the past. It bothers me when a partner doesn't 91 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: show up, turn up, put the effort in on the 92 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: same level as their partner. 93 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: I completely agree. 94 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it's okay. 95 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: And people might think, Okay, what could Justin have done 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: if he goes If he thought, oh, we're going to 97 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: a Krispy Kreme opening, I could see that's probably casual. 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: As soon as you see your beautiful wife walk down 99 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: the stairs, and I'm just assuming you're done early. So 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: you're sitting there watching Golf Channel or Sports Center. Your 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: wife walks down. You're sitting there in your sweats, and 102 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: you're ready to go to Krispy Kreme, and your wife 103 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: has on a beautiful red cocktail dress. You stand up, 104 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: you go upstairs, you say, give me five minutes. I 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: misunderstand the moment. 106 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: I didn't get the assignment. 107 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: I didn't get the assignment. And by the way, this 108 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: happens to you and I a lot. And I will 109 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: get dressed. I walk around the corner. Maybe I'm in 110 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: a nice button down, but I have shorts on, and 111 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: maybe some loafers and I see you come out in 112 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful dress. I'm like, oh crap, I whiffed. I'm 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: going back in the closet, and I'm like, I got 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: to step up my game. I'm not going to go 115 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: out with you looking ten stages higher than me, and 116 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to look like a bozo. I think that 117 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: is bad form. I think it's disrespectful. I think it's 118 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: just a bad look in this, I agree is a 119 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: terrible look. And I don't know if that's just me. 120 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm old school. 121 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: I agree it was an issue for me in a 122 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: past relationship. I was the one because it's about effort, right, 123 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: it says more than it's not just about like what 124 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: your personal style is. I'm sorry, but I'm not a 125 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: fan of like, look, be you, be yourself, show your style. 126 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: But people, I still think there needs to be respect 127 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: for a moment, like whatever your style is, if you're 128 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: going to a wedding or a funeral, like it isn't 129 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: about you show up and be respectful. And Justin is 130 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: at his wife's event, and I think he needed to 131 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: show up a little bit more, even if she greenlit 132 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: the outfit. I don't know think about how you look 133 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: to the public and about how people right now are 134 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: perceiving this right. 135 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: They're like, could he have could he have tried? 136 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: Like? And I think that effort is important for the 137 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: entirety of your relationship. To me, when you start losing 138 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: the effort, when you start stopped trying for each other, 139 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: that's that's a dark turn for a relationship. And in 140 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: my past relationship, I was the one not just making 141 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: the dinner reservation, but like then I would I'd go 142 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: and get dressed up like I tried for a date night, 143 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: and I would be telling this person, Okay, we got 144 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: to leave in five minutes, we gotta leave, like are 145 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: you ready? 146 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: And then he'd kind of go and throw on a 147 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: T shirt and act like that was enough, and it 148 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: wasn't enough. 149 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's when I look at that picture 150 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: and this may not be the case. I don't know 151 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Justin and Haley, but it just from afar, I see, 152 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't care that much. I just I don't care 153 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: enough to have taken enough time to wonder what event 154 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: we were going to, to wonder what you looked like 155 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: when we got in the car. It just shows me 156 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: a lack of respect and love and caring for somebody, 157 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: and the idea that well, I'm here, aren't I as 158 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: if that's enough? 159 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: Is not. 160 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: That's not. It's actually worse when you show up. And 161 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: that one particular picture also didn't look great. It is 162 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: just kind of leaning there against and she's looking all cute. 163 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's leaning on the counter. 164 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: And I get the life of Justin Bieber's different than 165 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: the average Joe. We'll knock it down to regular life. 166 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: You and I have this great group of friends back 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: in LA and a lot of times the dudes would 168 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: just roll in post golf, always in their golf shirt, 169 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: always in their golf so or whatever. And the wives 170 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: would come meet us and they're so dulled up and 171 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: they're cute and they're whatever. And I would always try 172 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: and run home and change real quick so I wouldn't 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: look like I just rolled off the golf course. Yeah, 174 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: and you we talked about that a lot of like 175 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: just give a little effort. 176 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: What I think everybody agrees an important thing about a 177 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: relationship for its longevity is to keep dating. And to 178 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: keep dating means to keep trying. I yes, you want 179 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: to be comfortable with your partner, but that doesn't mean 180 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: you don't care. There's a difference between being comfortable and 181 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: being careless. And I like, I want to still like 182 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: relationships are hard enough, Like I want to still feel 183 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: like you you on the most basic level. 184 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: Give vish. Yeah, that's it. 185 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: Life's gonna throw things at you. You want that person to 186 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: to try. 187 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Let me bring up something, and you let me know 188 00:08:54,320 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: if I'm out of touch. So Josh and I, my 189 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: son Josh, we were at dinner. We were going to 190 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: dinner with a certain NFL quarterback. This person is worth 191 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: millions and millions and millions of dollars. They are very famous, 192 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. And we 193 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: went to a very nice steakhouse and this quarterback and 194 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: so we go home and Josh and I, because we 195 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: were at their practice, we go home. We change and 196 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: I tell Josh, hey, we're going to a very nice restaurant. 197 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: He came out and like a V neck T shirt 198 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: and I said, no, no, no, no collared shirt. Go put 199 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: on some slacks. We're going to a nice dinner. So 200 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: we get to dinner and this quarterback gets out of 201 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: his car and jeans and a backwards hat and we 202 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: sit down, and Josh looks at me and he says, Dad, 203 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: how come he can show up like that? And I said, well, 204 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: first of all, when you have hundreds of millions of dollars, 205 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: you're considered eccentric. I go, but honestly, if I was 206 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: his dad, I would slap him upside the head, take 207 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: his hat off. And so I don't know, am I 208 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: just out of touch? Is that old school that it's 209 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: if that's your thing, that you can wear a hat 210 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: backwards and a T shirt into a nice steakhouse or 211 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: something like that, because to me, it was all I 212 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: could do not to say something to this grown man. 213 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: Interesting. The hat thing is something I learned from you. 214 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a more Southern thing. I 215 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: didn't know that baseball caps kind of had a disrespect 216 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: level to them, which but you've always said it kind 217 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: of bothers you to I can't. 218 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Even wear one inside. If I go inside anywhere, I 219 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: take my hat off because that is my grandmother who 220 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: would actually literally slap you upside the head if you 221 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: walked in with a hat. Yeah, it would be a 222 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: record scratch stop music if someone had a hat on inside. 223 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: So I immediately just take my hat off anytime I 224 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: go inside. That I know is a very old school 225 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: thought of a thing to do. I don't care if 226 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: my hair looks bad, I don't care. I will take 227 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: my hat off to this day. That's just in me. 228 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: It's like me saying yes ma'am, yes sir, I do 229 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: that to everybody. People take that as a sign of 230 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: disrespect for some reason now, but that's just my thing. 231 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: That's how I was raised. But the hat thing does 232 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: wear on me. It won't go so far as to 233 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: be the old guy on the law and now that 234 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: can can't get over the hat inside. But add a 235 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: nice restaurant hat on backwards, it just again it goes 236 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: back to that just respect. 237 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: Well, I do see that there's a personality cultivation moment happening, 238 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: like for Justin Bieber, you know, I don't know. Maybe 239 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: he thinks this is how people expect him to dress 240 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: and it feels on point or something. But Justin FYI, 241 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: people love it when you wear a suit. They think 242 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: you look incredible. They love when you dress up. So 243 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: my basic rule of thumb is this, if you would 244 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: wear it to bed, or if you would wear it 245 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: like lounging around your house and a complete and if 246 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: you'd wear it to nap, do not wear it to 247 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: what would be considered a nice event, an official event, 248 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: a nice restaurant like church. I do not think it's okay. 249 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: I get it if you've got a baby, but when 250 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: I see like teenagers in pajama pants at church, I 251 00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: can't handle that. 252 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, I've had this fight too. 253 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: I'm okay with jeans. We need to modernize, Like a 254 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: nice dark gene is nice, but when you're in pajama 255 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: pants and slippers at church or at a restaurant like 256 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: this is not okay. 257 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to see you in your sleepwoay. 258 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: And the argument that, well, at least they're here. When 259 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: they talk about church or something like that, it's like it, 260 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, the point was to get them here, And 261 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, was that the point? I mean, I'm glad 262 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: they're there, and I'm glad they are getting some faith 263 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: in their heart and soul, but that's not just the point. 264 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: Well, here's my issue. 265 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: By the way, it's not that hard being a parent 266 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: of two, not that hard to put a collared golf 267 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: shirt on, or well. 268 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: It does send a message of self centeredness, right, because 269 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: it caters to you. It's like, oh, well, we just 270 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: had to get them here. Well, that's saying that the 271 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: world revolves around them, and that's saying that the world 272 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: will cater to them. And not only will the world 273 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: not do that, but the world shouldn't do that. I 274 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: don't think it's a good message to send your kids. 275 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: The world will be built for you, Like you should 276 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: try to show the world who you are in a 277 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: pause and try to find your place in the world, 278 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: like present yourself to the world. But the world shouldn't 279 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: cater to you, like it's it's not just that it won't, 280 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: but I really don't think it should because what that 281 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: tells us is that the world is about us and 282 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: it's not. The world's about the collective, and it's about 283 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: how we can contribute to the collective. 284 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Great point, and I think we've lost that a little bit. 285 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: Wow, we've really taken this playbook. 286 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, we started with a Krispy Kreme don'n at 287 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: appearance and now I'm talking about the world. 288 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: But it's true. I think we've lost that a little bit. 289 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: And that's it. Here's what your crocs say to the world. 290 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: Well, if there's a takeaway. I think that's it from 291 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: this playbook, and that is think bigger than you, And 292 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: it's something that we've stopped doing, and we do more 293 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: and more where we get so insular and it's everything's 294 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: about us, and it's our feelings and how we're a victim. 295 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: But think about the collective. Think about the world is 296 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: bigger than us. It's not just about that person in 297 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: the mirror. But I like that. That's a great playbook today, 298 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: and I hope that everybody had a great week our 299 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: thanks to everybody here in Maine for all the lobster rules, 300 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: all the shrimp, all the love and we have embraced 301 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: this great part of the country. And also before we 302 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: leave and we wrap up this week, a quick shout 303 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: out to the folks at the experience camp that you 304 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: were a part of last week. Such a special thing 305 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: and experience caamps dot org. Yes go check it out. 306 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: Thanks everybody. 307 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time because we have a 308 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us 309 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: on Instagram at the most dramatic pod ever and make 310 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: sure to write us a review and leave us five stars. 311 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next time.