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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on giants dot com. I am John Schmolke. Demands

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Speaker 1: to my left is Jeff Figgles and the phone number

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Speaker 1: for you is two A one nine nine four five

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Speaker 1: one three. He sounds a little tired. I am a

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Speaker 1: little tired. I'm a little tired. I got a little well.

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Speaker 1: We've been in Mobile for the Senior Bowl with you know,

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Speaker 1: cold weather, rainy weather, you know, being on four different

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Speaker 1: planes in a span of four days. I'm feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm coming down with the cold, which is awesome and great.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about that. You got the weekend, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do over the weekend and I'm taking one day off,

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Speaker 1: so there you go. So I'll get a three day

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Speaker 1: weekend out of it. But it was a fun week.

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Speaker 1: It was always good to go down there. Second time.

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Speaker 1: I've been down their second straight year. And you learn

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Speaker 1: a lot about these guys seeing them up close, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I have a pretty good feel. I get

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Speaker 1: to watch an NFL team practice, you know, in training camp,

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Speaker 1: you know, at the last eleven twelve years, and and

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Speaker 1: you learn a lot and even just looking at the

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Speaker 1: guys and getting a feel for what they are physically.

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Speaker 1: You can see which guys are like, all right, he belongs,

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Speaker 1: he belongs. There's always the one that you look at

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Speaker 1: and say he doesn't belong, but he's a stud. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly right, you know what I mean, because not everybody

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Speaker 1: has the body type of that. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: were to draw up a football player, this is what

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Speaker 1: he's gonna look like as a receiver. But you know

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Speaker 1: it's it's I I tell you it's probably. Um it's

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Speaker 1: a good and because you've been there two years in

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Speaker 1: a row, now you understand how that's a very important game.

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Speaker 1: I mean for from a Strogia perspective, because it's really

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Speaker 1: the one that they can get you know tomorrow. I

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Speaker 1: I to be honest with you, I will watch this

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Speaker 1: game before I watched the Pro Bowl. You should. It's

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Speaker 1: more important. I mean, this is just this to me

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Speaker 1: is like you know when you look at these roster,

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Speaker 1: the schools and everything from here, But it's just more

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Speaker 1: It's it's more enjoyable to watch because the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: to me is just I know people are going to

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Speaker 1: be upset, but I mean, and and the team will

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Speaker 1: always watch it. He tweets about it. I haven't watched.

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Speaker 1: I haven't watched the Pro Bowl. I watched the one

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Speaker 1: that I attended because we were there for Giants dot

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Speaker 1: Com miking up. But I was O'Dell's first Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: so we went there for that. So also on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: I watched that game because I was literally in the building.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I probably have watched the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: in more than ten years. There's no point why would I.

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Speaker 1: It's the last one I watched. I actually played in. Really,

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Speaker 1: that's it. That was. Now do you remember do you

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Speaker 1: remember that game? In in completion, don't go there, no

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Speaker 1: remember that game? I know we won. Could you get

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Speaker 1: more money if you win? Is that because of Steve

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Speaker 1: Atwater that you don't remember the game? That was the

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Speaker 1: That was the first one that was that's going way back.

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Speaker 1: Now tell people for the those you have haven't heard

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Speaker 1: the Steve Attwater story. Well it's actually a good segue

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Speaker 1: because nobody watches the game anymore because there is no

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Speaker 1: there's nothing to it, right, I mean the lineman they

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Speaker 1: but going back to long time ago, um Steve Atwater,

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Speaker 1: who was the safety for the Broncos decided that he

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Speaker 1: was going to rush the punt, and there's kind of

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Speaker 1: like a handshake deal on the Pro Bowl you don't

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Speaker 1: rush any special teams play. Well, he'd siety he wanted to,

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Speaker 1: Wire that he couldn't do it? And I punted and

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Speaker 1: he just took me out, roughing the punter in the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Back on the play, did he got you

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Speaker 1: high or low? He got me low? Okay, wow, that's

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Speaker 1: not good. You don't want to go low. And I

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Speaker 1: have a picture in my scrap book of me just

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Speaker 1: sitting on my butt looking with my hands like what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? How do you apologize on the field? Right?

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Speaker 1: He did apologize. I don't know, maybe he just got

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Speaker 1: he was a very good special teams players. Was it

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Speaker 1: it like after the game? Right after the play, I

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Speaker 1: mean like he kind of had like a what do you?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he had one of those moments like hello,

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Speaker 1: this isn't the regular season. I mean I maybe got

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Speaker 1: no problem. We got the flag right there. You're not

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, Yeah, ninety six and oh eight, not a

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Speaker 1: bit of sweet because you guys obviously you didn't want

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Speaker 1: to even be able to play in that Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: because you want to be in the Super Bowl. That's correct,

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Speaker 1: that's correct because the year before we were in a

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Speaker 1: superhow many johants? You guys said, what about almost like

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Speaker 1: John Carney. You had O'Hara, right, Connie made it that

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Speaker 1: year for that I think, did you make it that year?

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Speaker 1: he had Strayhan and Tuck until seven might Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: sounds about right. I'm trying to think who else could

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Speaker 1: know if the Antonio Pierce Maye ap could have made it.

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Speaker 1: Well look, and I always tell people that, like, you

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Speaker 1: show up in like week eleven of two thousand seven,

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Speaker 1: that was not a very good football team. But by

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Speaker 1: the team that went eleven and one in the first

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Speaker 1: twelve games with two thousand and eight, and that was

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Speaker 1: the team that won the two seven and seven Super

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Speaker 1: Bowler team that played and the thing that the thing

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Speaker 1: Legan rushing that year. I mean they just pounded. And

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Speaker 1: then then everything came crashing down. All right, let's go

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Speaker 1: back to the senior very quickly. We kind of got

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Speaker 1: off topic, but that's okay, absolutely, But I love it

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Speaker 1: could listen to them all day. Thank you. Um of

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Speaker 1: any other funny Pro Bowl stories or no, um off

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Speaker 1: but Tom anyway, I wanted the just real quickly. My

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Speaker 1: my wife's grandmother, UM, God bless her. She's passed away

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Speaker 1: years ago. She was a huge Reggie White fan and

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Speaker 1: she's very religious. You know, where were she when I

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Speaker 1: when I was in the Pro Bowl in ninety six,

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Speaker 1: Reggie was was at the Pro Bowl? Is your wife

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Speaker 1: He was amazing, that man, Reggie White. How many years

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Speaker 1: Let's start with quarterbacks. I get, explain to me one

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Speaker 1: thing about the Senior Ball, and I'm sure that a

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Speaker 1: last year we didn't have Sam Donald at the game.

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Speaker 1: not the Senior Citizen Balls, the Senior in College Bowl. Now,

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Speaker 1: if it was senior citizen Bow, I'd still be playing that.

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Speaker 1: So the one thing I'll say about the quarterbacks the

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Speaker 1: start is that none of the guys to me, made

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Speaker 1: a statement Like last year you watched Baker Mayfield and

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Speaker 1: Drew Locker Daniel Jones could be first round picks. Drew

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Speaker 1: is before I went out there has a big time arm.

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Speaker 1: What I saw this week did not impress me. Um

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I mean, I don't know if he has

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Speaker 1: the upside to be any more than a middling NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And in my humble opinion, and again my opinion doesn't

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Speaker 1: sweat as much. Would Coughlin find you, guys make it

427
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Speaker 1: on a pound? No way? Really? Yeah, And that's in

428
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Speaker 1: the cb A. It's actually in there. You can't just

429
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Speaker 1: met randomly make it up. It's in there. Really. In

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Speaker 1: the c b A. It tells you the maximum amount

431
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Speaker 1: you can get fine for not making weight per pounds.

432
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Speaker 1: Think about no idea that if you have a ch

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Speaker 1: insinuated that they're not insinuating. I'm stated if they had

434
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Speaker 1: a box, it's factual that that box of chicken and

435
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Speaker 1: it cost you a thousand bucks, better be damn good.

436
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Speaker 1: For a thousand dollars chicken, it's worth it. Uh, It's

437
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Speaker 1: not worth maybe for having a couple of the guys

438
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Speaker 1: that that kind of jumped out to me that I

439
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Speaker 1: thought I did a little bit on the seer adderly

440
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Speaker 1: the safety out of Delaware. Some people thought he might

441
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Speaker 1: be able to play corner. I don't see that. I

442
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Speaker 1: think he's a safety and I think he can play

443
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Speaker 1: that position on this thing. He's six worth, he's six

444
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Speaker 1: pounds and he played corner in college. And he's a

445
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Speaker 1: guy that would be a single high free safety, which

446
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Speaker 1: you're real as you well know. Those are things that

447
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Speaker 1: are very very hard to find now in the National

448
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Speaker 1: Football League. Two smaller wide receivers trying Andy Isabella at

449
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Speaker 1: a U Mass really athletic, really quick, dropped too many

450
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Speaker 1: passes on the two or three drops, which I don't like,

451
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Speaker 1: but he is Patriots wide receiver written all over him.

452
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Speaker 1: Um Penny Hart at a Georgia State just five eighty pounds,

453
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Speaker 1: no one could cover from, just too quick out of

454
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Speaker 1: the break, just all over the field, which is okay

455
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Speaker 1: because a five eight guy nowadays they didn't scare people away. Yeah.

456
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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, the wide receiver out of South Carolina, had

457
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Speaker 1: a real nice battle for a lot of the practices

458
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Speaker 1: against rock you sin. It was a great name cornerback

459
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Speaker 1: at a Temple. So those two guys that thought were

460
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Speaker 1: the best in their position groups and they kind of

461
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Speaker 1: went at it all day. So I was impressed with

462
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Speaker 1: those two guys. So I think they the debo is

463
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Speaker 1: his name Debo right, Um, he actually has some really

464
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Speaker 1: good numbers in college. He did and he was getting separation,

465
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Speaker 1: made some nice catches. Interesting, Yeah, I think that, Um,

466
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Speaker 1: if you can find yourself a good free safety in

467
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Speaker 1: this in this draft, you go get them because they

468
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Speaker 1: are in very many of them, no, and they're hard

469
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Speaker 1: to find. They're really hard to find. I think he

470
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Speaker 1: could be a late round one, early round two picks.

471
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Speaker 1: You could put your radar up for him. He's not

472
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Speaker 1: gonna go six overall with the Giants pick, but um,

473
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Speaker 1: I think he has a chance. Terrell Henry at New

474
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Speaker 1: Mexico State, the linebacker. He was the one linebacker that

475
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Speaker 1: jumped out of me. He had a play on Day

476
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Speaker 1: one where they were doing coverage shows against running backs.

477
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Speaker 1: He literally put I think it was Bruce Anderson into

478
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Speaker 1: the ground. I saw on past defense and the guy

479
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Speaker 1: just didn't run him out. And then in the run

480
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Speaker 1: defense he came up and he blew up this poor

481
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Speaker 1: guy and the whole You know what's bad when all

482
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Speaker 1: the scouts go whoa and you hear like the wall

483
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Speaker 1: in the stands and he got one of those on

484
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Speaker 1: one of those trit How many places are there fans

485
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Speaker 1: allowed into practices? Yes, they are going, yeah, and there's

486
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Speaker 1: plenty of room too, and they sit right with the

487
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Speaker 1: with the coaches in front office in the stands. It's

488
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Speaker 1: like it's one of the few things in the NFL

489
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Speaker 1: where it's like wherever you want, Like I can go

490
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Speaker 1: up and sit next to John Elway he's sitting in

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Speaker 1: the stand watching practice. If I want, I mean, do

492
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Speaker 1: whatever I want. It's it's it's it hasn't been like,

493
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Speaker 1: it hasn't gotten the NFL like lockdown on it, probably

494
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Speaker 1: because it's not an NFL then it's a it's a

495
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Speaker 1: rich one by the Senior Bowl. Sure, so it kind

496
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Speaker 1: of hasn't gone that way quite yet. Do they do

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Speaker 1: they have any type of private practices when they're running

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Speaker 1: plays or anything or everything is all everything is all joint,

499
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Speaker 1: although well, no, well the practices aren't. There have two sets.

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Speaker 1: They have two consecutive practices. So the South practices against

501
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Speaker 1: the South first and then vice versa, and then the

502
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Speaker 1: North practices against the North. So you have two separate

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Speaker 1: two hour sessions. Got okay. So they do not practice

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Speaker 1: against each other per se like you were doing like

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Speaker 1: a joint practice in training camp. They do not other

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Speaker 1: than the game. Other than the game that I wonder

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Speaker 1: why they wouldn't do that. That would be to me,

508
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Speaker 1: would be would be really good. It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I don't have the answer to that, because you know,

510
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Speaker 1: when you think about it, there's a lot of guys

511
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Speaker 1: here to try to get all the playing time. Man um.

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Speaker 1: One other guy I want to bring up is that

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Speaker 1: Dan Salmon. I'm sure I was listening at home. Who

514
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Speaker 1: did a good job writing at the Senior Bowl too.

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Speaker 1: He was He was a real, real good job. Um.

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Speaker 1: Ohio statewide receiver Terry McLaurin, who we have. We stopped

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Speaker 1: by the way Ins for like five minutes on Tuesday

518
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Speaker 1: morning when we got that that thing is so awkward.

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Speaker 1: It's the most awkward thing in the world. Well, they

520
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Speaker 1: gotta get used to because every single thing they do

521
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Speaker 1: from here on out, they're gonna get weight. It's like

522
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Speaker 1: a meat market though. It's just it's just weird. But

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Speaker 1: one of the guys I so walk up was Terry

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Speaker 1: mclauren and they had like his picture up on on

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Speaker 1: the screen. And then he walks up and you know,

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Speaker 1: no shirt walks up and I just go to Salamont

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Speaker 1: to go, man, that dude is what is he a linebacker?

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Speaker 1: And he goes So that guy's a wide receiver and

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Speaker 1: I'll just go say what now? And then he shows

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Speaker 1: up at practice. He's going every No one can cover

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Speaker 1: this dude quick fast. He pulled away from the fenders

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Speaker 1: on deep routes. Plus he was a special team start

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Speaker 1: Ohio State who he was a gunner, so he helped

534
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Speaker 1: himself a lot this week. Terry mclauren, I thought he

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Speaker 1: was great because we always talked about it. If you're

536
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Speaker 1: that fourth, fifth receiver, maybe six receivers, sometimes that's what

537
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Speaker 1: you gotta do. You gotta be that special teams player.

538
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Speaker 1: And that's a good you know. So maybe he moved

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Speaker 1: up a couple of couple of spots in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Who knows to one four or five on three? Alright,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. It's all brought to you by

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowler. Are you good? No, I'm just glad

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Speaker 1: you're back. And that was fun. I mean it's actually

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Speaker 1: it's it sounds to me like it's a long process,

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Speaker 1: you know, with everything, and but these guys have to

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Speaker 1: do it. I mean it's their first look at these

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Speaker 1: these scouting these guys personally. Yeah, And if you go

550
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Speaker 1: to Giants dot com, you sift through all the stuff

551
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Speaker 1: we have on there. I have practice reports of each day,

552
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: Dan Salmon, the stories on the different position groups. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff on the Senior Bowling Giants

554
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Speaker 1: dot Com. It's great content. Make sure you check it.

555
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Speaker 1: And I guess the next thing coming will be combine

556
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Speaker 1: and then individual workouts at right and then draft season

557
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Speaker 1: has begun. Draft let's do that coming out. Darin Atlant

558
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Speaker 1: has been on since the start of the show, and

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Speaker 1: then Jenny Florida will be next. Jerry, what's up? Pal?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? John Fix was going? How are you good?

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Speaker 1: All right? I want to tell some sound real quick.

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Speaker 1: This things like you know, when you look at the

563
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: pronocicators and what the Giants should do, it seems like

564
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Speaker 1: the consensus if they want to John have to have

565
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Speaker 1: a running quarterback. And I am from the rout of

566
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Speaker 1: them that the last running quarterback we had with Jeff Hosta,

567
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Speaker 1: and I watched that game, and I watched the game.

568
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Speaker 1: You feel soon we'll go back to eight to with

569
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Speaker 1: the Giant fans. But the thing is, I don't. I

570
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Speaker 1: don't like running quarterbacks. I love having a mobile quarterback,

571
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Speaker 1: moble within the pocket. But with a running quarterback, you know,

572
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Speaker 1: the lightlihood of him completing the season is probably five

573
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Speaker 1: five to one. I have a question for you, who

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Speaker 1: who who's saying the Giant should have a quote unquote

575
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Speaker 1: run quarterback Anderson? Well, I wouldn't. Okay, that's that's that's great.

576
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Speaker 1: I'm right. I've been trying to different between a complete

577
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: hatred towards Eli or because any time she's on she's

578
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: pleading in the case about getting a running quarterback. Right,

579
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Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like, for example, Russell Wilson's a mobile quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't consider him a running quarterback by anything. He's

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Speaker 1: not a Lamar Jackson. No, he's not Lamar Jackson. He's

582
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Speaker 1: not r G three is rookie year. I mean, I'm

583
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Speaker 1: not even Desha Watson. I want to find a good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If that quarterback's a a traditional pocket pass are great.

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Speaker 1: If that guy's more like Russell Wilson where he can

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Speaker 1: move around a little bit, great, But I want somebody

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Speaker 1: that when the chips are down and you need to

588
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Speaker 1: win a game, you can complete passes from the pocket.

589
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Speaker 1: That's what you need if you want to win in

590
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Speaker 1: the NFL. If they're mobile on top of that, great,

591
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: I'm all four, but they need to be able to

592
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: complete passes in the pocket. That's should be the And

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Speaker 1: by the way, I know this is what Patrmerdad get

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Speaker 1: Leman thing too. That is the number one thing. If

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Speaker 1: you can't complete passes in the pocket, you're not gonna

596
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Speaker 1: get drafted by this team, period. I agree. Now, I'm

597
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: not saying that I'm not. I don't want my quarterback

598
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: to you run out on naked boots. But that's fine,

599
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: of course, that's fine. Well, first of all, I have

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Speaker 1: nothing against Kyla Murray. I've watched Oklahoma play. I just

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Speaker 1: I feel once my quarterback leaves that least the box,

602
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Speaker 1: he is a runner and Kyler Murray doesn't have enough

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Speaker 1: weight on him to be able to such a sustaining

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Speaker 1: h hit from a linebacker or from safety coming down

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Speaker 1: to the box. So you know, I just, yeah, he's good.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a firm believe you can't you

607
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: can't catch, but I need that out of my skill positions,

608
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: not out of the quarterback. If you're a Giants fan,

609
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to worry about Kyler Wilson Murray.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you need to worry if you combine

611
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson. The player that's okay, be

612
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Speaker 1: kind of cool, But like John said, he's not. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't fit them all the the Giants quarterback and I

614
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Speaker 1: just don't think that they would ever take someone like that.

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00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: That's me, And that was that was the point I

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Speaker 1: was trying to make. Um. I like, I like h Haskins,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I don't like the fact that unless

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Speaker 1: we actually all in on him. I like to have

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Speaker 1: at least one or two or as even three quarterbacks

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00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: that have the skill set that we're looking for, so

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Speaker 1: we can sit down and really would properly weigh the

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Speaker 1: pros and cons of, you know, on each each core

623
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Speaker 1: skill set in their ceiling. But when you have one

624
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Speaker 1: that that you may not be understand sure of you

625
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: know it kind of it kind of forces you to

626
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Speaker 1: look at the other positions of you know, which which

627
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: position has the best player you know on the board. Um,

628
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: but that's just my thing. I just my quarterback, my

629
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Speaker 1: next quarterback. I need someone who's going to galvanize the team.

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Speaker 1: You know, when they and at howd they can look

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Speaker 1: at him and know that he's going to do everything

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Speaker 1: he can to to put the ball and he could

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Speaker 1: be and move up and down that field so we

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Speaker 1: can actually score. Um. But before I go, I want

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Speaker 1: always us and congratulations m hmm, yeah, absolutely, Drey, We're

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Speaker 1: with you. And and and thanks for the call. Thank

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Speaker 1: thank you for reminding me about that United great news

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00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: that he's back. And then the read where it all

639
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: started yep, yep, and and like he has had the

640
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: best track record the last few stops. But look, I

641
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: love Spags. He's a awesome guy, smart guy personnel and

642
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: hopefully he can work with those pass ushers he's got

643
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: over there that some personnel as all. When we can

644
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: see if they bring D four back, can they can

645
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: franchise him? They could? I don't know, I don't know.

646
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what the keeps. I don't know, I

647
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: don't know what the chief's cap situation is not at

648
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: the luck but yeah, I mean good for Spags yep. Yeah,

649
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of time, you know, that happens. Um,

650
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: and I think that he'll I think that he'll he'll

651
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: do fine there. I mean the relationship between him and

652
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: and Nandy Reid has been great. Um, that's just those

653
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: coaching trees they go deep, man, and you know, what's

654
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: all brotherhood? Hey, in any business, Jeff and and you

655
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: know brotherhood and you work in rule estate. Now, it's

656
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: all about relationship, it is, it's what it is, all

657
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: about relationships, yep. But a lot of times it's not

658
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: what you know, it's who you know. And really, when

659
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: you look at these coaches, they've got each other's backs.

660
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: They really do have to. No one else will. And

661
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: it's funny how it's not funny. It's just it's it's

662
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: so realistic. How now new coaching trees start, you know,

663
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: so they you know, you picked these these coaches off

664
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: of these staffs, and then they start getting other coaches

665
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: that nobody knows about, and then they become successful. And

666
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: then now there's a new coaching tree that has started.

667
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Sean mccra This to me, the McVeigh coaching tree comes

668
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: from the Shanahan coaching tree, doesn't it. Because he was

669
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: with Kyle who goes obviously to his he was with Kyle.

670
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, like mcveigh's assistance now who you

671
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, he picked them from where. Yeah,

672
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 1: I hear you. And now they're gonna now the offensive

673
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: coordinator is gonna maybe get it. So it's like it starts.

674
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 1: It's just but yeah, there is a there is a

675
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: mother ship somewhere. Yeah, exactly, That's what I mean. Yeah.

676
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: So it's like and those mother ships, they all they

677
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: go back to the Parcels of the World and bill

678
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: Walshes of the World and Homebruns of the worlds and

679
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: things like that, because you look at that Homebrun staff

680
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: back during the day when Jon Gruden was there. Um, hell,

681
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: you can go back to Air Correel for some of

682
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: these guys like the Ernie's Ampezs and North Turners and

683
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: stuff like yes, yeah, I forget it, yes, absolutely, So

684
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, yeah, they go deep the mothership

685
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: of all mother ships would be who I gotta say,

686
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: it's Lombardi or Landry, right, absolutely take your pick. You

687
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: gotta go back there. And then it's just the spiderweb

688
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: to a one five on three. Let's go to Jan

689
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: in Florida. Jan, How are you? I'm doing good? Hell

690
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: are y'all guys? What's up? Good? Good? I have a

691
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: couple of questions. Is uh Eli going to be back

692
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: next year? And uh? Is she pretty good quarterback to

693
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: the Giants? You think? All right? Well, the first question, Jen,

694
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: we don't know the answer to. And right now, I

695
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody knows the answer to. Maybe Dave

696
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Gentleman and Pat Charmer know and they just haven't announced it.

697
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: But we'll wait and see. He's under contract, though, so

698
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to assume that Eli Manning will

699
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: be exactly so I think under that assumption, yes, But

700
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: again that and I was gonna make this follow up

701
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: to a dres call. That doesn't mean that the Giants

702
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: won't be in the market for a quarterback. They were

703
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: open the drafting a quarterback last year. They just happened to, like,

704
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: say Kwon Barkley better, they'll be open the drafting a

705
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: quarterback this year if they find that when they select

706
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback is the best option on the board. And

707
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Speaker 1: I think the only quarterback in this class that could

708
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: be in the mix at number six is Haskins. I

709
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: do not have a feel for what the team thinks

710
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: of him. I have not watched him yet. I know

711
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: he's a pocket passer, he's accurate, he's got a big

712
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: armed and he won a hell of a lot of

713
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: games and had a couple of really late game comebacks

714
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: with the Ohio States. So I'm optimistic before looking at him.

715
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: And I think Jeff and I are on the same

716
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: page like you were last year. If you get the

717
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: sex Haskins is there and you believe he's a franchise quarterback.

718
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: But I also believe even if he's there, and he's

719
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: on your board, and you go by the best a

720
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: possible player, then you're gonna take him, and you know what,

721
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: and if he's not, you're not and exactly, and that's

722
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: why there's so much credence put in the evaluation system. Now.

723
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: If you guys remember Dave Gentleman came in the building

724
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: last year and changed up the whole evaluation process and

725
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: grading system from what what what it was in the past,

726
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: so and he brought in more CON's and he the

727
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: promoted Chris pettit let cal Mark Ross. There are a

728
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: lot of changes. The whole scouting staff was reorganized with

729
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: regions and who reported to who, the whole thing got changed.

730
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: It did, and also the philosophy changed. That's in a sense.

731
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: So you know, the Giants had always been a team

732
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: that the best you take the best player. I think

733
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: that's still the philosophy. But whether that changes or not

734
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: on draft date, who knows. But the fact is that

735
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: you do your due, you have your numbers, you have

736
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: your guys ranked, and they slowly get crossed off and

737
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: then by that time, you know, maybe Haskins is down

738
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: here and you may want to take him even though

739
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: he's not the best player on the board at that position,

740
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: but you believe in him, then maybe you get him.

741
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: And to me, Jeff, I think this team is is

742
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: even more of a best player available philosophy. Then Gentleman

743
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: has been very very clear about not picking based on need,

744
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: and I think in the past we've seen, you know,

745
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: they always said best player available, yet they somehow always

746
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: managed to draft somebody that played the position guard left

747
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: guard last year in the second round. Um, yeah, it's okay,

748
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: wink wink, Yeah, that's fine. But he was the best

749
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: player too. It is kind of funny how that happens.

750
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: But you know, I really believe that if if the

751
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: Giants feel like they that he's their guy. Now we've

752
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: we've also heard the fact that the Giants may not

753
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: get him at six. They may have to trade up

754
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: to get him. If they really want him, that team

755
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: might try to train up because somebody's gonna jump ahead

756
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: of the Giants and take him. Right all right, I

757
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: want to get back to Jenny or Jan. Did you

758
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: have a second question for us? Yeah? I do. I

759
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: just want to give a shout out to Barkley O

760
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: b Rosa. Met the Pro Bowl. Mr Thomas, Michael Thomas too.

761
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: We made it for the special team. Michael Thomas Hip.

762
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm about an hour away from there. I live in

763
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: Orman Show. I'm gonna go see him this weekend. Very good.

764
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: We'll have fun and have fun. Man, enjoy the warm weather.

765
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Take care and and have a good day and go Giants.

766
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: Thank you calling in and say how to our myriad

767
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: of production folks that are down there covering the Pro Bowl.

768
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: Doing a great job. It's all right, so quiet around here. Well,

769
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: it was really quiet yesterday when you had the half

770
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: our group at the Senior Bowl. The other half was

771
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: it the Pro Bowl. And Cohen's basically taking in the

772
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: studio downstairs, and no one knows his ear two O

773
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: four five one three. It's got a Dan in the Poconos.

774
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: He's up next. Hey, Dan. Imagine it's probably pretty chilly

775
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: up there in the Poconos right now. Yeah, I was

776
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: thinking about what you said to that last fell and

777
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: enjoy the weather, and man, I wish you could spend

778
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: some of that up here. Yeah, I'm sure what's up,

779
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: but anyway, I just wanted to um. I'm going to

780
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: make a comment about Eli Manning and UM and two

781
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: guests that you had on recently. But before I do that,

782
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: I want to make one thing. I think the segment

783
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: that you guys do you and Jeff on Fridays at

784
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: the end of the show, I think you should extend

785
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: it a little bit more because I love seeing how

786
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: competitive death get. You guys are a panic. It's so hard.

787
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: Though we haven't done in a while, we'll do it today.

788
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it now. I'm gonna find some natures

789
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: for your baby. All Right, this is a this is

790
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: the spur of the moment game. Do you want to

791
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: put the leading? He has to stay over? You've got

792
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: to say, I don't know. I was taught like, is

793
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: that a good number? I don't know. No, not really.

794
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Of course you're gonna say no, not really, Dan, What

795
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: do you think you don't think the amount of considering

796
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: the amount of games and the amount of teammates you've

797
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: had over the decades. Yeah, but I think that's a

798
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: pretty good number. Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you

799
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: very much. Wow, welcome Now listen about you. Like years

800
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: from now, I can't have a lunch yesterday. I'm going

801
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: to be terrible at n't sorry. Go ahead, Okay. Now,

802
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm not that I'm any kind of expert, but I'm

803
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: in I'm in my late fifties. I've been a Giant

804
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: season ticket holder for it for many many years. I've

805
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: been a Giants fan since I could crawl in a

806
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: football fanatic. And I really don't need anyone because I

807
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: got great seats. I don't need anyone to tell me

808
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: as far as because I just have that conflidence in

809
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: what I know as far as if a quarterback is

810
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: shot or not. Now we all agreed, I'm gonna do

811
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: this quickly. We all agreed. I wanted a hanging lie

812
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: in the first date when they were doing crap, and

813
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: then when they were doing better in the second eight

814
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't even getting Oh it wasn't all because of Elie.

815
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's been proven, and he proved it again.

816
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: If you give him a decent or you give him

817
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: the tools around him, right, he can get the job done.

818
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: He can still make the throws. He's got the accuracy,

819
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: he's got the arm strength period the end. Okay, now

820
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: that that's that's it. I've seen him make plays in

821
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: that second hit the second half last year, just beautiful pludge.

822
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: And you guys have commented on it, and I know

823
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna address that, you know, because he's not gonna

824
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: play forever, but he's sure as hell is going to

825
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: be your starting quarterback next year. And number two, I

826
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: couldn't now the two comparisons. First, I hear Sam monson right,

827
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: he comes on and man, he gave Eli a bad grading.

828
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, because I'm listening to Sam,

829
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: He's got all his stats. You know, if it was raining,

830
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: if it was sunny, no matter what. He's got all

831
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: these different you know, right, He's like if it was

832
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: a Sunday and he wasn't wearing the the right cleats,

833
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: and he's just got everything down. But then I heard

834
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: my man called Banks saying the same exact thing, saying

835
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: that if you put the tools around and I'll call Banks,

836
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: tells me something to me. That's like, you know, the Bible.

837
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: He knows what the heck he's talking about. So you know,

838
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be frustrating over the next up until

839
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, training camp listening to all the ELI hate

840
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: is calling up saying oh he's too old, blah blah blah.

841
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: I just you know, and and and that's just that.

842
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to tell you guys real quick.

843
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: I'll just I do one thing too. I think one

844
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: fair point the detractors make that this is something that

845
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: giants have to figure out, where Jeff and I agree,

846
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: if you put the right pieces around Eli, you can

847
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: win with him. We've already seen it with the roster

848
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: the way it is though, and the amount of building

849
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: they still need to do. Will you be able to

850
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: get those pieces around him in time before he has

851
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: to hang it up. And that's the question that I

852
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: think is more important even than what you think of

853
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback does, is timing line up with the rest

854
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: of the roster. And I think that's what makes it tough,

855
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, he's running out of time,

856
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: not for sure, but I you know, like so many

857
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: people have said about Eli, it's like having another offensive

858
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: coordinator out there. You know. They forget about all the

859
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: experience and all the things that he brings to the

860
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: table for us, you know, and he's gonna be missed

861
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: when he's gone. Let me tell you, I hope we

862
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: don't go through one of those you know, long stretches

863
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: of trying to find the right guy. You know. But well,

864
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, do you have to understand? And you

865
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: really hit the nail on the head as far as

866
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: him being an offensive coordinator on the field. When he's gone, Okay,

867
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna get you're gonna get the you're gonna get

868
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: the doozer games, you're gonna get the what what is

869
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: he doing? Why doesn't he call time out? Why you're

870
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna get all that? And Eli always and fans don't realize.

871
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: That's how often Eli will get them into the right

872
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: play when the right play didn't happen to get called,

873
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: which happens with all offenses. And he is just so

874
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: good at understanding what the right play is in a a

875
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: certain stan, and he does it with such easy effectiveness

876
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: that nobody knows about it. That's the thing. So um

877
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, it's a great point you make,

878
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: and I will you have to caution all the Giants

879
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: fans going forward that when he, when Eli is gone,

880
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to go through some of those

881
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: those headaches and those growing pains. It's gonna happen unless

882
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: it's a unless it's a veteran like a Nick Foles

883
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: or a Flak or somebody that comes in here and

884
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: replaces them. But if it's gonna be a young guy,

885
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna get those days where you're gonna say, Mama

886
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: told you that they're gonna be those days. You know,

887
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, guy, Okay, have a good weekend, stay warmed,

888
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: take you appreciate it to five on three. It's all

889
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890
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: After an amazing Giants prizes the Poconos, Scott, New Mexico.

891
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a lot warmer. Scott's a Friday College

892
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: a warmer. Yes you are, also, John, I suggest you

893
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: start drinking a lot of chicken souper if you want

894
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: to get rid of that cold. Well, they have it

895
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria today. I already had a chicken chicken soup,

896
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: already had a bowl of turkey right before. So there

897
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 1: we go. There you go. Uh, there's a pet peeve

898
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: I have whenever they do these Bowl games, especially evaluating quarterbacks.

899
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to read the original scouting report on one

900
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: quarterback just briefly said he had slow foot speed, frame two,

901
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: small average arm strength, could not throw a tight spiral,

902
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: couldn't improvise a play, broke down, and then the combining

903
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: round of five eight forty Uh and also had a

904
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: twenty four point five intes vertical week. But you know

905
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: where that player was, of course. Yes. So when you

906
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: look at players at the Senior Bowl, Uh, and you're

907
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: looking at quarterbacks, and it's obviously in short snippets is

908
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: their way in the back of your mind, especially John,

909
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: you're seeing them up close and personal. Uh, can you

910
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: do a fair evaluation, or do you really have to

911
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: wait until they're either in a game situation or you know,

912
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: a pro game situation, or they have to get really

913
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: sort of reports, you know from the Scott Look, you

914
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: you can only judge on what you see. I can't

915
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: wait to see how he does when he gets into

916
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: the pros because I have to make that decision before

917
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: he gets picked. So you have to go off what

918
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: you see. The most important thing is what he did

919
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: on the field in college, and you judge that, and

920
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: then everything else is kind of tertiary to to to

921
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: what they did on the field in games. So you

922
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: do the best you can. Not every evaluation is going

923
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: to be right there in the world. Get this wrong.

924
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: People have different opinions about different players. It's not a science,

925
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: it's an art. There's no way to be a percent.

926
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: And if anybody tells you that they get everything right,

927
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: they're lying to. Another thing, too, is that they do

928
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: this hand hand test, like, okay, you're you know, you

929
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: measure nine inches across. If the guy can throw the

930
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: football and he doesn't have fumbles in college, does it

931
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: really matter? It doesn't matter. Not really. They're just intangible

932
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: to people that just kinda to go by because they

933
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: can say, oh, well, you know he's only five five

934
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: ft ten and a half when people have him at

935
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: six too. That makes a difference, I think, But I

936
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: don't think hand size makes that all a big difference.

937
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: And also, John, when you look at players when you're

938
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: doing evaluations and looking at them at the Senior Bowl,

939
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: do you in the back of your mind sort of say,

940
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: this is a player like Montes swept Us, for example,

941
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: who's highly rated. Uh, do you do you envision him

942
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: as a giant or do you look him as just

943
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: how he's as a pro now there's how he's going

944
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: to be as a pro or fitting into a system.

945
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: And the reason I asked the question with the Betcher's defense,

946
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: they didn't blitz a lot, uh, and I think they

947
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: ranked in that category. And James Betcher in Arizona obviously

948
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: had teams that blitz about between thirty three and the

949
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Giants were like around last year, and I was wondering,

950
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: if you your back of your mind say, hey, Mantess,

951
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: we would help the Giants defense if we drafted somebody

952
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, Scott, absolutely, I think you look at

953
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: the boat first. You figure out all right, is this

954
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: guy good player? Because if he fits your scheme but

955
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: he's not good, who cares? So the first thing you

956
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: worry about is if the guy can play. Once you

957
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: see if he can play, then you look at his height,

958
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: his weight, that's sort of stuff to see how he

959
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: would fit in with the Giants. And and Scott, thanks

960
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: to the call. We appreciate it. And and then you

961
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: go from there we lost Scott. There man, there we go,

962
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: thank you, um, and then you figure it out. But

963
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: the guy has to be a good player before you

964
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: worry about, you know, whether or not he's gonna you know,

965
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: fit in the system. Yeah, and exactly, I mean you

966
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: want him to. You want if you can hit on

967
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: both that's great. He's a great player, and he's gonna

968
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: fit you know, three or four or four three whatever

969
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: you're running, or you know, if he's an offensive player.

970
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: Football's football. If a guy is a really good player,

971
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: you should be able to figure out what he used. Yeah.

972
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: And again I'm not saying you reach for a guy

973
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: that's not gonna fit, but you should be able to

974
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: figure it out. Lenning, Columbia, Maryland's up next. Hey, Lan, Hey,

975
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: how you doing, guys, what's up? Hey, if I may

976
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: take uh ten seconds speak shout out Mariano Rivera, Mike

977
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: Mus going into the Hall of Fame. How about nobody

978
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: voting no? That is tremendous and by the way, that

979
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: should have happened a long time ago. There a lot

980
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: of other players that also deserved the unanimous that weren't.

981
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: But I'm happy that Rivera got it well in the

982
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: case of both of them, to say well deserved as

983
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: an understatement to to to really great u. Uh you

984
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: know guys and pictures. Um, Hey, couple of shoutouts, so

985
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: you other shout outs? You you talked about SPACs already. Uh,

986
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: nice news. Perry Fuel found work uh and Tim Walton,

987
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: who seemed to have a communication breakdown with Eli Apple

988
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: about four times every week, the defensive older defensive backfield

989
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: coach found work down at Jacksonville. Coughlin hired him on

990
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: that staff, or maybe it was Maron who hired him,

991
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: but anyway, he found work and that's good. There were

992
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: two good coaches, I think. Um. January nineteen seven a

993
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: great day in Johnny's history. You guys remember it or

994
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? Is this Super Bowl forty

995
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: six No, there's Super Bowl twenty one, all right, nineteen

996
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: January today, I guess it's the thirty second, thirty first

997
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: anniversary of that day, the second half. I was in

998
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl that day with my wife, and I'll

999
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: tell you if there was a better moment in Giants history,

1000
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: particularly during that second half when we were rolling it up. See,

1001
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: he's just just a great day, great day. Um. Hey, John,

1002
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: A question I had that guy Mac from Texas A

1003
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: and M. I don't think he's a three down lineman,

1004
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: but I like what I like what I saw out

1005
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: of Mac, and I'm thinking, you know, we got out

1006
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: to the fourth round. He's he's kind of a guy

1007
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: I want to look at. I think that's fair. I

1008
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that can help you on one down.

1009
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: There's no question. Yeah, And another guy wanted to ask

1010
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: you about I don't think he was there, Lauren. I

1011
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: couldn't tell. I should actually should have looked it up.

1012
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: John's the tackle. Uh. Well, back back to Clemson and

1013
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: you know the guy who didn't play in the championship game.

1014
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: They had to sit him for a couple of games.

1015
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Wilkins or the terrific football player, but the backup guy,

1016
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: a guy named Huggins. Um, he had a nice game

1017
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: that night against Alabama. Uh, you know, you get out

1018
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: about the fourth and fifth round. He was that guy.

1019
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: That guy could be a stud interior defensive lineman. The

1020
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: only Clemson player that was there was wide receiver Hunter

1021
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: renfro No one also care from Clemson, Right, yeah, yeah,

1022
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure even Huggins played it either of the

1023
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: other bowl games. But I mean he stepped right in

1024
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: and played a heck of a game. And uh, you know,

1025
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a really good player. Hey on Jenkins the center, John,

1026
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: the kid from Mississippi State that you cited, Um, where

1027
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: where does he? Where does he fit in terms of

1028
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: draft position? Do you think he's there at thirty seven? John?

1029
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: In the second round? You do you think he can

1030
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: go pass past thirty seven? Huh? I don't think he's

1031
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: gonna get a round four. But I don't I think

1032
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: he'll be there at thirty seven. I'm not even I

1033
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: don't think he's a I don't see a lot of

1034
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: Like last year, Land we had so many of those

1035
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: interior linemen that got picked between twenty and thirty five.

1036
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't say I don't see a group like that

1037
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: this year. I really don't. Uh huh, Okay, well listen,

1038
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: thanks for the uptates by the way from you know

1039
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: from Mobile and um welcome. Let's let's go giants. Have

1040
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: a good weekend guys too, then appreciate it. Boy, I'm

1041
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: getting sick. This is not good. I'm gonna get this

1042
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: frog out of my throat. I know I gotta deal

1043
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: with him. I got him bad at losing his mind.

1044
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: He wasn't right. I am happy now, Charlie. I know

1045
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: you're the king of like healing muscle polls and like

1046
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: spraying knees. Do you have anything for a cold that's

1047
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: not gonna get me arrested if I get pulled off? Yeah,

1048
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: you got it. Garlic, A lot of garlic. You'll get

1049
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: rid of it. Garlic. Really yeah, I'm not worried about vampires, Charlie.

1050
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm sick. Chicken soup with a lot of garlic in it.

1051
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: Believe me, you'll see that. You'll get over it right away.

1052
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Also in Asia and Alderberry um Calderberry cost sirrup is

1053
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: really good those two things. Hey, Hey, thank you so

1054
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: much for the information about the Senior Bowl. I will

1055
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: be there next year, so I can hang out with you,

1056
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: and I could find Gettleman and Schumer's sit right in

1057
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: between them. This just in John has backed out of

1058
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. There's no security, right, Why did you

1059
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: tell him to go up and sit? You can go

1060
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: up and sit next to anybody, right, you can. I

1061
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: definitely got to go next year. I definitely we can

1062
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: hang out. You can sit next to how Hunter. All

1063
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Jeff, Mike Murphy is going to be

1064
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: there next year. Now that's right, by the way, Mike

1065
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: Murphy's our head of security, so he'll take care of everything.

1066
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: Don't worry. Yeah, no problem. Finding you another seat somewhere

1067
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: else in the stadium outside. You should sit next to

1068
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: how Hunter. That might be better for you. He won't

1069
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: even be there next year. Okay, Charley, that's you're so nice? Said,

1070
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Who was the guy from I think was the old

1071
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: line coach from the Colts who is gone. We should

1072
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: be bringing him in. I think he did a good yea.

1073
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: By the way, you know he was the assistant offensive

1074
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: line coach in two thousand seven, right, Charlie, Yeah, I did.

1075
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: That's why we should bring him back. How about that? Hey,

1076
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: I gotta I got something for you what you guys

1077
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: should do for the next couple of shows. Now that

1078
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: we got the Senior Bowl with h and now we're

1079
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: heading into free agency, why don't you do a show

1080
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: on just our free agency free agents? First, Who we're

1081
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: going to keep, who you think we should keep? Who

1082
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 1: do you think the Giants is going to keep? Free agents?

1083
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: Unrestricted free agents? What's the other one? An exclusive the

1084
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: rights free agents? Go through that whole list, because it's

1085
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: about sixteen or twenty of them bad. That's not a

1086
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: bad idea, Charlie. And so that's where we should start.

1087
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: And then after we do that, then do free agency

1088
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: the positions that we really need, like free free safety,

1089
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: pass rusher, right tackle, center for land and the right guard,

1090
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, and go through the different free agents that

1091
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: are available, and see who the Giants might dick and

1092
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: who you would check if they get through, you know,

1093
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 1: if their team doesn't tag them all whatever. And then

1094
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: after that then we can start talking about the draft.

1095
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: Then we can have an idea of what we've done

1096
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: in our free agents, what we've done free free agents

1097
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: that are outside, and then we can figure out who

1098
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, draft. Thank you. It sounds great,

1099
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: but you know you're you're talking to the guy that

1100
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: does the shows together, so I doubt he's gonna listen

1101
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: to you. Charlie, I didn't realize when when you became

1102
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: the executive producer. I'm not sure when that happened exactly,

1103
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have to follow a complaint with the union.

1104
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: There is some substance to it. I like, I like,

1105
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: I like some of it. They actually weren't bad ideas,

1106
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: which is a miracle though though I don't imagine if

1107
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: Charlie did produce a free agency show, just be sixteen

1108
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: minutes on will Beat anyway, and then we wouldn't be

1109
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: able to talk about anybody else. Actually, you could have

1110
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: me come down and do a show with you, and

1111
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: I could go too much for you a Charlie, thanks

1112
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: for the call, buddy, Bye bye was healthy Atlanta. That

1113
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: is where we end the call. When he decides to come,

1114
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: it's time one's favorite games. I like that. Did he

1115
00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: play with Jeff Fiagels? I don't have a great NFL seasons.

1116
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: Hundreds of player Eagles with the Eagles. Let's see who

1117
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: Jeff remembers. You can make a mockery of my memory.

1118
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: That was just so you finished two thousand eighteen at

1119
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: eighteen and seventeen over and here we go. Baby, it's

1120
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: a new year, open up the twenty nineteen season, and

1121
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: we are starting from scratch, Jeff Eagles. Did you play

1122
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: with Justin Davis? Did you play with Justin Davis? I

1123
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: played with an antone Davis. I think you played more

1124
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: than one Davis. No, no, because I don't remember a Justin.

1125
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: I there a lot of davis is, but I just

1126
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: don't remember the first name Justin. Because I'm right, you

1127
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: are correct, sir, Thank you. You did not play with

1128
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: a Justin Davis, who was a backup running back on

1129
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: the two thous in eighteen St. Louis Rams. That's the

1130
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: one part that absolutely cracks me up is that the

1131
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: guy is a current player. Did you play with Adam Butler?

1132
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: Did you play with Adam Butler? James Butler, but I'll

1133
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 1: played a great Super Bowl bottle. Kevin Butler was a kicker.

1134
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: What I played with also with the Bears, that one

1135
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: played Kevin Butler. I remember, And what was the first name?

1136
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: Adam Butler? No, Adam. Adam didn't make the roster with

1137
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: me one day, Unfortunately, you are correct. Go with Adam

1138
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: Butler two for two and he is a member of

1139
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: the a f C champion New England Patriots. Okay, defensive

1140
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: tackle bing man. Finally, last one of the day. Can

1141
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: you go three and oh to start the year? I

1142
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: think I might have went three once or twice in there?

1143
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: Did you play with Robert Drummond? Correct? Where did you

1144
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: play with Robert drum in? Then? What position? Did he play?

1145
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: The running back? And he was with the Seattle Seahawks. Wow,

1146
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen is starting off pretty. He did not

1147
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: play for the Seahawks. No, no, I'm sorry, it was

1148
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Eagles, but you got you got the yes position.

1149
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: So that's Robert. I want I want the pull a

1150
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: player that played with you and Reggie want pull pull

1151
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: up his team? Did he did he go to the

1152
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: Was it always with the three games? Three three years

1153
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: with the Eats? That's it? Okay? Yeah? He was there

1154
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: my two years ninety and ninety one, Um were I

1155
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: was there? Was there? When when I have to do

1156
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: this quickly and I can't prepare for it, you go

1157
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: three and of oh, So see there is there. It is.

1158
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: See when he prepares for it? Nah, just pick him off.

1159
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: The second one. The second one with Justin, there wasn't

1160
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: too many Justin's, Like Justin is kind of a name

1161
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 1: that's come come up in the last Maybe I didn't

1162
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: realize that I think about it. There we wasn't too

1163
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: many Justin's back in the day. You know, now it's

1164
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: so Adam Butler is a pretty common name. I thought

1165
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: I would get you with Adam Butler, but I remember,

1166
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember Butler's. I remember the Butlers that I

1167
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: played with, Kevin being one of them was funny dude.

1168
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: And then of course but we called them both of them,

1169
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: but it the other Butler would won a Super Bowl

1170
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: with so and James. Butler again played one of the

1171
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: best games of any player in that Super Bowl. He

1172
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: was wonderful the whole season. He had in a remarkable season.

1173
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Not the best athlete in the world, but he was

1174
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: always where you're supposed to be. Smart, smart player. And

1175
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: then he filed spags to St. Louis. If you remember,

1176
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: do you know what he's doing these days? I'm guessing

1177
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: you know when you're he talked about fried chicken. He

1178
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: has like three or four fried fried chicken establishments in

1179
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: the south Fast Food rest. Is it his owners that

1180
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: he like the franchise the franchises, Yeah, that's he's doing well.

1181
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: Good for James Butler. He wasn't one of the guys

1182
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: that ran off and had chicken lunch either. No, he wasn't.

1183
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: He's a very skinny dude. Jimmy Butts. Well, ironically, the

1184
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: guys that they run off and get chicken and lunch

1185
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: were also skinny dudes. They just like to eat their

1186
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: fried chicken and lunch. And I can tell you this,

1187
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: they weren't eating just chicken when they left. They were

1188
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: doing other things too. All right, thanks for joining us, everybody.

1189
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: For Jeff Eagles, I'm Johns Felt. No, I'm really happy.

1190
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: I didn't mention any names. So they went grocer, they

1191
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 1: went grocery shopping, They went to fill up their their

1192
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: tanks with gas. Hanging out with Charlie and Portland, Maine. Yeah,

1193
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: I was just I don't know where you're going with

1194
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: that one. I was just thinking that they had some

1195
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: errands to run. It was all brought to you by

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1198
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00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: See you later, folks.