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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist,

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Speaker 2: and speaker.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer,

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Speaker 3: and course creator. We are two working parents who love

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Speaker 3: our careers and our families.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about

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Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.

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Speaker 2: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long.

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Speaker 1: Term career goals.

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Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura.

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Speaker 2: This episode is airing in late March of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: If we sound a little different, it's because we are

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Speaker 2: again in Sarah's closet here in Fort Lauderdale, together sharing

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Speaker 2: a microphone with each other, with the happy noises of

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Speaker 2: children playing in the back. Hopefully that continues to be happy.

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Speaker 2: They seem reasonably happy, right, Sarah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope it's going to be controlled levels of chaos.

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Speaker 3: I have recorded many episodes with my kids home, and

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Speaker 3: I actually think this microphone's pretty good at not picking

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Speaker 3: that stuff up. So as long as nothing catastrophic happens,

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Speaker 3: it should be pretty decent.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they've got some good stuff going on out there.

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Speaker 2: I got to see the three D printer, pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: But this episode is going to be a never.

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Speaker 1: Have I ever? Episode?

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Speaker 2: So perhaps you have played this as a game at

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Speaker 2: a party. I don't know that I have ever played

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Speaker 2: this as a game at a party, but I hear

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Speaker 2: people do.

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Speaker 1: Never have I ever played the never have I ever?

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Speaker 1: Gave it a part? Have you? Sarah?

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Speaker 2: We came up with questions from like teen vogue, so

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Speaker 2: that may hint at what age demographic perhaps plays this

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Speaker 2: game at party.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure we would be doing this with like.

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Speaker 3: True, but I've seen it on some blogs and stuff,

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Speaker 3: and I'm always fascinated, Like it's just a fun way

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Speaker 3: to learn random stuff about people. And I think Laura

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Speaker 3: and I picked some strategic questions in here.

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Speaker 2: Yes that maybe either have done or not done, but

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Speaker 2: might make interesting and won't embarrass anyone so crazily that

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Speaker 2: we'll have to yank this episode before it airs.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so have you hear it, Pierre? If the

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Speaker 3: episode just says like redacted and you hear static for

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Speaker 3: like thirty seconds, which we thought better of it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we thought better of it.

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Speaker 2: That we were thinking what stayed in the club, what

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Speaker 2: we realized we were still recording. All right, so Sarah,

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Speaker 2: this is your laptop. I don't want to pull up

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Speaker 2: the notes with there we go, Okay, Sarah, never have

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Speaker 1: Have you ever broken a bone? I have never broken

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Speaker 3: I have broken my left thumb doing a backhand spring

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Speaker 3: I had some violin performance coming up, and you really

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Speaker 1: To play the violin.

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Speaker 2: So back up here, back handspring into a table? Like,

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Speaker 2: what was sort of the thought process behind that? Do

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You're the one who did it.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think it was I think there was

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Speaker 2: All right, depth perception, useful skill, Yeah, but fully recovered.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Can't even tell it, can't even tell.

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Speaker 2: No, two thumbs look pretty normal, all right. Blocked someone

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Speaker 2: on social media? Have you ever blocked someone on social media?

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Speaker 2: You're not even on social media anymore? So she blocked

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think i've like, I feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, maybe you just don't want like random

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Speaker 3: My oh, and you're like, an I'll just I'm out.

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Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm out. All right, Neither of you are

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Speaker 3: I hate staying up all night, and in fact, now

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Speaker 1: They none of them were fun. But I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: I feel like I think I did once at like

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Speaker 3: I feel like college students are the best that staying

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Speaker 1: It's just like part of the culture.

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Speaker 3: Like we had at least one twenty four hour coffee

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean if people are studying, I guess it's

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, yeah, all right, Sarah wardrobe malfunction.

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Speaker 1: Never have Vata ever had a wardrobe malfunction? Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So, by the way, we tried to not make these boring,

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Speaker 1: My wardrobe malfunction? But I think enough time has passed

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Speaker 3: So approximately twenty years ago, I attended a wedding in

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Speaker 1: And the dancing was just pretty spirited.

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Speaker 3: Spirit is the right word, and everything everything came down

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Speaker 1: Mom, is that strapless dress? It had straps?

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Speaker 3: I think it just fell off. I don't know whatever.

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Speaker 3: That was a moment that was definitely a wardrobe malfunction.

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Speaker 2: But it was significant, So I guess this is a

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Speaker 3: So I was just in costume, Oh my god, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's one hundred percent my fault.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it probably was. Have you ever gotten a speeding ticket?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't that exciting. Like there was a little

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Speaker 3: But I was young and dumb and I paid my

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Speaker 1: Know between the wardrobe malfunction and that it was because

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Speaker 2: Sleep deprivation makes you do very silly things. I have

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Speaker 2: I was in a car that was pulled over. Actually

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Speaker 2: Michael's father was driving Michael and me from our wedding

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Speaker 1: He just told him turn on the lights. Oh well

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Speaker 1: wasn't a ticket. Near miss. Well you know, funny situation.

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Speaker 1: next one's really juicy. Okay, we will all right.

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Speaker 3: All right, we are back and Laura, I have to

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Speaker 3: ask you, have you ever gone streaking?

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Speaker 2: Well, I will neither confirm nor deny that. When I

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Speaker 1: Never have I ever regifted something? I guess they we're

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Speaker 3: Like, never have I ever regifted something without saying it

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Speaker 3: I think staples are not going to leave a pretty scar.

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Speaker 3: I know that would be you never know, though, Josh

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Speaker 2: So in many ways, this was just non ideal pobby

443
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 2: for me to be pursuing. But whatever, you know, we

444
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 2: were going to do it together. And so I got

445
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 2: my license and we went on our honeymoon once.

446
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 1: And I have never gone scuba diving since.

447
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 3: Laura was just like false advertising, like I'm your scuba

448
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,880
Speaker 3: dream boat here.

449
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 2: Never mind, never mind, we'll bait and switch on that one.

450
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 1: No, but I gave it a try. I gave it

451
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 1: a try.

452
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 2: I gave it a try, and it was not for me.

453
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: And he has been allowed to go scuba dive. It

454
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: is relatively frequently. Does it on any sort of beachy

455
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 2: tropical vacation.

456
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 1: We do it now.

457
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 2: I have produced two little scuba divers who go with him.

458
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: So Sam got his license a few years ago, and

459
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: we'll be getting his advanced certification pretty soon. And Alex

460
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 2: just went through his the classroom portion and the pool portion,

461
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: and we'll be getting his license shortly. So amazing they

462
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: will all dive together. I think it all worked out.

463
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 3: Like it's not like he's been like your husband hasn't

464
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 3: been like deprived of his scuba experiences, which is the

465
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 3: important part.

466
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I took ski lessons too, and then I

467
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 2: realized I don't like going fast down mountains, So there's

468
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 2: many things here that I just in retrospect. You can

469
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: try to be a different person, but ultimately we are

470
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 2: who we are.

471
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: Good to try it out, although I like skiing.

472
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're going to take one more quick

473
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 2: ad break and then we'll be back with the conclusion

474
00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: of our never have I ever.

475
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: Well, we are back.

476
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: We were playing a game of never have I ever,

477
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: and we were discussing recently with this one never have

478
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: I ever in the sense of our children getting blistering sunburns.

479
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: But it turns out that Sarah.

480
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 2: And I may not have been quite so diligent about

481
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: sunscreen in our early days, right, Sarah.

482
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I regret all of my blistering sunburns. But yeah,

483
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: it came up on like I never have I ever list.

484
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: So I was filling out an intake form for one

485
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: of my kids to go to the dermatologists, and it

486
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: was like, have they ever had a blistering sunburn? And

487
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 3: I asked them and they're like no. I'm like, wow,

488
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: things have changed now. Part of it is probably just

489
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 3: that my kids have different skins that I have, Like

490
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 3: it tans a lot more easily because my husband's skin

491
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: tans a lot more easily. But then I thought back

492
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: to all the times that I was like peeling everywhere.

493
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: And like how bad that probably was. But what are

494
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: you gonna do?

495
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: Just get a lot of skin checks and take off

496
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: moles that don't look great.

497
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

498
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: I think sunscreen's gotten better though, too.

499
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: Right. I spray it on kids now, which was not

500
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: like doable when we were little, I think, and you know.

501
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: It just yeah, but we also had like SPF eight. Yeah,

502
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: that's true.

503
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't as much of a thing. Yeah, I've got

504
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: several blistering sunburns. I remember going to a camp where

505
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: we did sailing, and I believe I was out on

506
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: the water like all day with minimal sun coverage. I

507
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: mean I may have put on some on my face

508
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: in the morning, but of course that's not going to

509
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: do much for you by four pm. So yeah, pretty

510
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: bad regret. Regret, And then you get botox for wrinkles, right.

511
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: You know, ant skit, But you know what my botox

512
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: actually makes me. I would not go, Let's be honest,

513
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: would I be good about getting skin checks if my

514
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: botox dermatologist wasn't encouraging me to get my skin checks.

515
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: I actually get my skin checks, So it's actually good

516
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 3: for me to get Well.

517
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: There you go, There you go, the positive of it. Yeah,

518
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: all right, Sarah. Never have I ever had a root canal?

519
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: I have? You haven't? Nope? Sorry? How was that it was?

520
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: See?

521
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: This is the thing people talk about the root canal

522
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: as being like a terrible painful experience.

523
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: It's not like what's painful is.

524
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: What came before it that necessitates the root canal. Right,

525
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: Like for the actual root canal itself, You're like, have

526
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: a mouthful of novacane, and you know, I mean, obviously

527
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: it's uncomfortable to have your mouth open for that long,

528
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: but usually the root canal will solve whatever the pain

529
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: issue is.

530
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: So in fact, I think a root canal gets a

531
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 1: bad rep that way. I mean that kind of makes sense.

532
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: Plus don't they like num you yeah? Yeah, So I

533
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: mean you have the novacaine in.

534
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: And but when I had the root canal, this is

535
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: that tooth had all sorts of problems and so it

536
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: had a deep cavey in it, and I had to

537
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: get this root canal, and I went in and learned

538
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: that I apparently had very long and twisty like roots

539
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: in my teeth, Like you know, if any part of

540
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: me is going to be long and slender, like, why

541
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: does it have to be my roots of my teeth?

542
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: But so that makes it harder, It makes it harder.

543
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: So they had to do it in two different parts,

544
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: so I had to go in twice to get it done,

545
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: and then sadly enough, the whole tooth like broke apart,

546
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: and so then I had to have a crown put

547
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: in on that tooth.

548
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: But that was a couple years ago. I've had no

549
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: other tooth issues sense. I guess that was the only

550
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: one that was a problem. Yeah, I'm sorry. I hope

551
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: that was your only root canal.

552
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope it will be too, I mean olthough again,

553
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: it's not the root canal that's the issue. It's the pain,

554
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: searing pain when you have like a deep thing in

555
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: your in your tooth.

556
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, all right.

557
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: Sarah watched a Star Wars marathon. Now this was on

558
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: a list somewhere.

559
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: No, I've watched like one part of one Star Wars

560
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: and was like not my scene.

561
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

562
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 3: I think I was like slightly too young, too, like

563
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: born in nineteen eighty. I think I just kind of

564
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 3: missed Star Wars the first time, and then when people

565
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: were kind of bringing it back, I wasn't that into it.

566
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

567
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: Well I definitely saw four or five and six and

568
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: saw one, and then like bits and pieces of two

569
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 2: and three, and then I sort of, yeah, I lost interest.

570
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: But the idea of seeing it as a marathon. When

571
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: I was at a summer camp, like an academic camp

572
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: in middle school, we were gonna watch this as a

573
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: marathon the last night. That was something they offered as

574
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: an activity, like you could watch the Star Wars marathon

575
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: and then it would have been episodes four or five

576
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: and six, and like two years in a row, some kid,

577
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 2: probably not the same kid, pulled the fire alarm and

578
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: so everyone had to be evacuated, and then of course

579
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: the counselors are like, yeah, no, everyone go to the room.

580
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: There's no more activities like after that sort of thing.

581
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: So so sad didn't make it through all three in

582
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: a row, two years in a row, and you haven't

583
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: like made the effort I had, No, you know.

584
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 2: It's not something that's really come up ever since that

585
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: I felt as a way I needed to spend you know,

586
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: six seven hours of my time or now there's nine

587
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: of them, right, so yeah, yeah, no, it would be

588
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: it would take a lot of time to watch.

589
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: All of it.

590
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: All right, Well, now we haven't ever have ever that.

591
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's like one of my least favorite things.

592
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: So have you ever sent an email to the wrong

593
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: person or sent to a group when you meant individual?

594
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: Yes?

595
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: I have, and I kept doing it unfortunately, Like I

596
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 2: had two people who I knew fairly well who had

597
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: the same first name, and I was complaining about something

598
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: involving one of them professionally that I was meaning to

599
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: send to the friend with the same name, and I

600
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: more than once sent it to the person.

601
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: I'd work out it seems okay.

602
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: You know, people still were talking to me after words,

603
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: but it was a little bit embarrassed.

604
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: The other person's name is Sarah. No, just try not complain.

605
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I was complaining to this friend of mine handquods

606
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: about someone I know professionally.

607
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: That's really funny, you know. That's bazz.

608
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: I had a terrible like I used to have to

609
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 3: send so many emails so rapidly when I was a

610
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 3: program director, like I could the only way to I

611
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: didn't have like tons of time to keep up with it.

612
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: So I do these massive clean out sessions every Friday,

613
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: and it would just like I would look back in

614
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: my inbox, I'm like, wow, I sent one hundred and

615
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: sixty emails. I mean, maybe that's an exaggeration, but it

616
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: was something like that. And in one of those frenzies,

617
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: I did reply all and I said something negative about somebody,

618
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: not somebody personally, but like a kind of a group,

619
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: and oh my god, they.

620
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: Got it and it was so bad.

621
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: I think they have now forgot This was probably five

622
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: years ago, and I think they've all forgiven me or

623
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: have forgotten about it. But in the moment, it was

624
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: so mortifying, and I mean part of it was like, well,

625
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: now they know my true feelings about like I was

626
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: sort of complaining about a group not doing the work

627
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: I wanted them to do.

628
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: So maybe because now they know that you wanted them

629
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: to do the work right.

630
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: A tiny bit of like, But no, I was really

631
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: regretful because also, you know, there's gonna be some venting

632
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: in your emails and it's not ever the way you

633
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: want to provide feedback. So all I can say is

634
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: it's happened to me, and we all recovered.

635
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: And I hope to never do it again. And I'm

636
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: pretty paranoid.

637
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah you checked, now, Yeah, Gmail does have undecend Do

638
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: you ever send? And you're like, I'm not sure, Just

639
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: onto it right away and then you can always resend it,

640
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: because better to do that than yeah.

641
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: Well, and if you're ever well, first, probably best not

642
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: to send hot emails. You know, say things live if

643
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: there are things that you really want to say that

644
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: might be misinterpreted or could come out the wrong way.

645
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: But if you are sending an email, it. Sometimes it

646
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: helps to fill in the address last because then you

647
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 2: can have one more chance to think about it before

648
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: it could go out into the world.

649
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: Totally.

650
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: An always have to assume anything you said and could

651
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: go to anyone anyway, even when you're not.

652
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: Replying all so oh, because people forward stuff.

653
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing, like, you know, take a

654
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: picture with their phone and they text it.

655
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're reading down to the bottom of this long

656
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: thread and it turns out that people were complaining about

657
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: someone who's later like c Seed because it's now about

658
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: a meeting that they're going to be in and yes, yeah,

659
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: so yeah, all sorts of things can go wrong.

660
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

661
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: I don't think I've done anything close to that since.

662
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: So maybe I learned a good valuable lesson.

663
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Valuable lesson. That's good. Well, on another note, have you

664
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: ever danced on a table?

665
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: I have? I have, so I believe it was was

666
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: it that the bar's name was like Coyote Ugly that

667
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: was in the movie, right, and that was the whole

668
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: thing that they were dancing on the tep So I

669
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: went to that bar while I was in New York

670
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: at one point and figured I should dance on the table.

671
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: Because like other people did too. I mean, it wasn't

672
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: just me dancing on the table, that is awesome.

673
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: I do not think I've danced on a table.

674
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: I feel like now like sort of remembering this bar

675
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: in Miami that like almost had like platforms that.

676
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: Were sort of meant to dance. I don't know if

677
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: I danced or not.

678
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: We'll just leave that one in the If I was

679
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: doing it, my memories are probably not very clear, so

680
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: I can't say for sure.

681
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: All right, next one, Laura, have you ever beaten a

682
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: video game?

683
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: I have Sarah, which one of the proudest moments of

684
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: my life. I believe it was the Super Mario Brothers

685
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: one that came with like the original one of those consoles,

686
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: those early consoles. Yeah, I had like eight levels, I

687
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: remember this, and there were like Where's workplaces you could

688
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 2: go through with the mushrooms and the tunnels and you

689
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: got the Princess. I got the Princess. So I had

690
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: tried again and again to beat this, and you almost

691
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: always as you were going up to Bowser at the end,

692
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: would get hit. But one time when I was coming

693
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: up to Bowser, I was a big Mario, right, so

694
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: I had an extra Life. So I just went through

695
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: and got knocked down the little Mario, but I won.

696
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: So that was it. That must have been such a moment.

697
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: It was such a moment. I never did it. I

698
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: had a game, Genie. Do you remember game Genie?

699
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Speaker 3: This is gonna be like the most sliver of demographic,

700
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: but if you had one, you're gonna be like, yes,

701
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 3: the game. It was like this little thing you like

702
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: stuck onto the cartridge that like let you cheat. And

703
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean no, I mean it was

704
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: like a product that you could buy. I don't think

705
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: it was a Nintendo product, but it was like and

706
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: you could like be invincible.

707
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: So I like beat it. I beat it with this

708
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: It would like pack the game for you. So I

709
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: beat it with the game Genie.

710
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: And I will say I did get like past level

711
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: twenty on Doctor Mario, but you never could do it.

712
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: I don't think there's an end, or maybe if there is,

713
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: I didn't get to it. So I've never really beaten

714
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: a game. So congratulations, thank you, amazing.

715
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: Thank you. I want this like on my teambstone. Yeah,

716
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: should be on your CV, the first first line.

717
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: Whatever else I've done, published books, no, no, no, I've

718
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: beat Super Mario.

719
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: All right, Sarah, have you ever screamed during a scary movie? Well?

720
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: This one was funny because I was like, oh, I

721
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: screamed today today during a movie. We're watching White Lotus,

722
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: and like there was a scene that was very surprising

723
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: and I just screamed.

724
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: We won't do any spoilers.

725
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no spoilers, But if you don't like screaming, maybe

726
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: don't watch it seriously, how about you. I just don't

727
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: really watch movies. So that takes care of that one.

728
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: But the next one people might say, never have I

729
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: ever worked retail.

730
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: I've worked retail. You've worked retail? Oh yeah, I like it.

731
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's fine. It wasn't even a bad job.

732
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well now you have. I mean, these days,

733
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: we don't have to make change as much. I think

734
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: that was more of a thing, like people use credit

735
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: cards less in retail places.

736
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember whether there was a lot of

737
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah we had a cash register and stuff.

738
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think I sweat people's card.

739
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: It was a video store, so I think a lot

740
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: of people would buy like a bunch of like credits,

741
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: so they weren't even always spending money.

742
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: They were like, I forget, how does that work? Because

743
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: you were a member you had to be a member

744
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: there or something. How does that even work?

745
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: I forget.

746
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would they give their card, yeah, card, they'd

747
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: purchase like a certain number of credits on the card,

748
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: and then we'd be like, okay, now you're down to

749
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: eighteen credits. So they were only like spending money every

750
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: once in a while. Mostly they were just using credits, okay,

751
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: unless they were buying a new card.

752
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: Yes, nineteen ninety eight. Ah, the memories, it was great.

753
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: It was great.

754
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: But I particularly remember the Osco drug experience. Osco drug

755
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: store in the mall. It was something, Yeah, that experience. Now,

756
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: it's get to see a slice of life. What people

757
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: are doing. They are they are they're buying stuff jampoo

758
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: at the mall. I was there to help them with it.

759
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: They were running all kinds of videos, all kinds of videos.

760
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: All right, never have you ever visited a nude beach?

761
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: So this is funny.

762
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: This was a sort of early memory in my life

763
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: because it was unintentional. So we lived in California for

764
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: about four months when I was eight nine years old

765
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: something like that, and we were there for a semester.

766
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: My dad was teaching at a university there, and my

767
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: mom took us kids to the beach and we were like, oh,

768
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: go to this beach and we walk out and then

769
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: there's like naked people standing out there on the beach.

770
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: I was on a California's like nude beach and we're like, okay,

771
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: we're turning around. Yes, we'll go to a different pech,

772
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: go to a different beach. Yeah, memorable, memorable. Now you

773
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: know these things for memories in life.

774
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: I have never been to a nude beach. That's really funny.

775
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: I know you better bear sunscreen if you do go

776
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: to one. That'll be our public service.

777
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: I guess you don't have any like tamline issues. That's true.

778
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: That's true, so that could be helpful. All right, sir.

779
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a black eye?

780
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't have any good, like dramatic stories

781
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: about it. I just remember I think I also had truerleading. Actually,

782
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: I will say I think I had one story where

783
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: I had a black eye, like maybe shortly after the

784
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: stitches thing, and then I had like a teacher ask

785
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: if like everything was okay at home, and I'm like no,

786
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm in a violent sport, leave me.

787
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: Alone, because it was.

788
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: It was, and cheerleading turns out to be violently all

789
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: the stunting. The stunting, Yeah, they were flipping over and

790
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 2: doing your your flip in your house and hitting the table.

791
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds so glad.

792
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: I kind of gave that up after one year before

793
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 2: doing any flips.

794
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: So mine was a botox injury.

795
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: But the injection, I think it must have just gotten

796
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of a spot or something, and so

797
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: I had a bruise where I had the injection, and

798
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: so yeah, it was fortunately it mostly looked like eyeliner

799
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: like where it was.

800
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: Hopefully you were like about to give a talk or something.

801
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: I remember I was giving a talk and I just

802
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: put heavy eyeliner on the other side.

803
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: All right, you made it match smoky Eye.

804
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: We did actually hear from somebody because we talked about

805
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: botox on a prior episode and like someone did remind

806
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: me like rarely there are bad side effects to botox.

807
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: Like anything you do, there's always a possibility it won't

808
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: go right or it will cause problems.

809
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: So everything's a risk. You have to just decide what

810
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: you feel is worth it.

811
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, Well, this has been our rousing game of

812
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: never have I ever I feel like we probably played

813
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: it wrong. We're supposed to say something different, but whatever,

814
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: Now you know a bunch of random facts, random facts

815
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: about Sarah and me.

816
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: We have a question, don't we do we?

817
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

818
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. I've wrut on by the way we're

819
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: in this closet together.

820
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: Yes, we do tend to go for more Q and

821
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: A type episodes or just chatty episodes and we're together.

822
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: It just feels more natural. We will be back with

823
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 3: some more interview and topical types of episodes next week.

824
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: But we had a fun question and it was just

825
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: because it's getting springier and not so dark in the

826
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: evening hours, and someone was asking, what would be a

827
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: low stakes neighborhood event if I, like, really don't feel

828
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: intimidated by the idea of hosting, but just want to

829
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: do something, what would you recommend for like a first

830
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: go round?

831
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think the idea of like an open

832
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: house kind of concept is pretty low stakes. So you

833
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: could just like email the neighborhood list if you have one,

834
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: or you can go put invitations in people's mailboxes or

835
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: on their porches, but say, you know, we'll be hanging

836
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: out on the porch Saturday night, the weather's nice. We'll

837
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: have dessert and drinks out there. Please stop buy when

838
00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: you can and just have cookies, maybe have a cooler

839
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: with ice cream bars in it or something. Have drinks

840
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: for adults and children if there are a lot of kids,

841
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: have stuff for kids, like sidewalk chalk or bubbles, and

842
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: you know, just see who comes by, and even if

843
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: it's only a few people, it'll probably still be a

844
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: reasonably good time. And it's low steaks, so it's not

845
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: like you put in some huge catering order and then

846
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: didn't have anyone come, so it'll it'll be fine.

847
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: I've done that with wine and cheese as well. And

848
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: I really like the idea of it being like drop

849
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: in versus like hour to hour, because then people don't

850
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 3: feel pressured to stay, but they probably will anyway, and then

851
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: they can kind of like come in and out. But

852
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: you might want to if you want to put like

853
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 3: an and drop by any time between blank and blank,

854
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: and then you also have an end time built in.

855
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

856
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that might be a low stakes way to

857
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: do it, but I definitely encourage people to try hosting

858
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: because it can be a lot of fun to bring

859
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: people together, and it's not like some people.

860
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe there are some.

861
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: People who are completely and totally natural hosts, but I

862
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: think for a lot of people, it's just something you

863
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: become more comfortable with the more you do it. And

864
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: then you're like, oh, yeah, that's where our extra chairs are,

865
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: and that's where our cooler is, and that's how we

866
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: get enough ice to have drinks be cold. And you

867
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: figure those things out, so yeah, all good.

868
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: Yes. Love of the Week, Sarah.

869
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: My love of the week is the brand AYR, which

870
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: stands for all year Round, which I learned about from

871
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: my friend Lonnie, who is a stylistic real lifestyle I

872
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: learned all.

873
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: Of my fashion stuff from her.

874
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've been wearing one pair of jeans from

875
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: them for like for forever, and then I was like,

876
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: you know what, I need more than one pair of

877
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: jeans in my wardrobe, so I ordered two others and

878
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: I love them all. Like they're not the cheapest, but

879
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: if I'm wearing the same thing day and day out,

880
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: which is what I tend to do, then I feel

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Speaker 3: like that is a category where I like to splurgeon.

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Speaker 3: And I actually have not ever gotten anything. I've got

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Speaker 3: a couple of tops from them too. I have yet

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Speaker 3: to be disappointed. So AYR not a sponsor, not a

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Speaker 3: sponsor to like it? They could be it could be awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm going to say I like parties in general.

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's always fun when people do host things,

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Speaker 2: and I've tried to do a few of my myself,

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Speaker 2: and I hope to do more. But I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of times people feel like it's too much work,

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Speaker 2: and it can be a lot of work if you

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Speaker 2: try to make a little work, but nobody has to

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Speaker 2: be Martha Stewart, and you know you can still have

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Speaker 2: a really good time.

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Speaker 1: So I'll say parties in general, I like it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, Like when have you ever gone to

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Speaker 3: a party and been like that wasn't a good party?

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Speaker 2: Never terrible fun. You see people, it's generally pretty good.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, this has been best of both worlds

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Speaker 2: we've been playing. Never have I ever. We will be

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Speaker 2: back next week with.

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Speaker 1: More on making work and life fit together. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com

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Speaker 3: or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: And you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com.

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Speaker 1: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Please join us next time for more on making work

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Speaker 2: and life work together.