WEBVTT - TGI-Happening 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.680 Welcome to the very first ever Pod Meets World. I 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.320 am Daniel fishal Aka to Pango Lawrence and then eventually 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.920 to Pango Lawrence Matthews. H and I am joined this 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:34.400 week and all the time by jump in this is 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.560 right or Strong? I played Sean Patrick Hunter. Is it 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.280 was my middle name? Patrick? Did that's just come to 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.760 you out of nowhere? Yeah? Well, because you threw in 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:45.880 your full name. I didn't realize. Did to Panga actually 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.640 change her name to Matthews? That officially I think she 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.880 was to Pango Lawrence Matthews. Interesting, I think I think 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.400 my middle name ended up being Patrick. And I definitely 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:57.560 remember when they introduced the last name Hunter. It was like, 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.640 you know, six episodes in. I was like, oh cool, 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.840 I gotta cool. I got a cool last name now 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.560 I just had Okay, sorry, I had a memory that 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:06.880 came to me because of what you said. But we're 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.920 getting ahead of ourselves. This is just the way it's 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.559 gonna go. Guys, Oh is it my turn? I'm sorry? 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.600 And I am will Fredell. I played Eric Neil Matthews. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.920 I want to say and uh, And then at some 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:24.120 point he just starts calling himself Kyle. So there was 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.280 that too. Yeah, Eric. Eric's name changed with the with 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.960 the times, but yes, it is the three of us together, 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.080 and I think it was it was Neil at one point. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.200 I think again they threw in names for us. Eventually 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.200 we go like, oh that's our name. Now. Well, the 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:41.720 continuity in the nineties was physically non existing. No, not great. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.600 We we will definitely touch on that in this podcast. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.800 Um which this is a perfect time to tell you 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:51.440 exactly what this podcast is. UM So a little history. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:56.040 I guess writer Will and I are very close friends. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.440 Um Will actually live so close to me I could 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.760 run to his house and be on his zoom in 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.480 about five minutes. If that seriously, I mean, if I 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.600 really ran, I could be there in thirty five seconds. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:14.760 But um and so we all have varying histories, I 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.919 guess you would say with boy Meat's World and whether 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.160 or not any of us have seen them. I know 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:24.080 for myself I probably saw almost all, if not all, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.200 of the episodes when they aired in the nineties. Because 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.360 I was twelve years old. It was my first big 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.400 major role. I was super excited to watch the show 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.880 that we had filmed probably four or five months before, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.679 sitting around Friday Night with my family. We watched the 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.519 whole t G I F block, like a lot of 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.400 families did so eventually, once I was in high school, 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.679 I probably wasn't like on Friday Night necessarily always watching them. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.440 But I think I've seen almost all of them at 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.400 least once, but it would have been back in the nineties, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.120 and then since the nineties, I have only seen a 0:02:55.120 --> 0:03:00.000 handful of episodes a handful of times since then. Um, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.360 I have very few memories of what the episodes are about. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.920 I actually think I have very few memories of even 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.160 filming the episodes. Um. And so I'm really excited too 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.360 kind of rewatch, but also watch for the first time, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.840 certainly the first time with like adult eyes, um, and 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:25.520 to see what it's like, both the cringe and the not. Um. Yeah, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:30.119 and what about you writer? Um, So I'm pretty extreme 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.440 and that I think I've only seen maybe four or 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.040 five episodes of Boy Beats World. Um. Um. Ever, well, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.840 I do think I watched most of the first season, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.320 like you, Danielle, with my family as like a thing, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.120 But there was an episode pretty early on, and I 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.000 don't know if it was within the first season, but 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.480 I remember watching it with my family and being so 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.760 self conscious and just hating the way I looked, and 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.720 you know, all the like insecurities creeping in and realizing 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.440 there was nothing I could do about it, and just saying, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.520 you know, I'm never gonna watch this show again. And 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.960 then I didn't. Um, I remember, you know, so I 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.640 don't know if you guys remember, but I so. I. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.080 I grew up in northern California and I would fly 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:16.080 home every weekend, every Friday when we were watching the show. 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.840 So what ended up happening is I would fly from 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.919 the Bourbank Airport to Oakland Airport and it was like, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.960 without fail, Boy Meets World will be playing in the 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.400 Burbank Airport while I was waiting for my flight, and 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.600 I can remember again being so insecure and hiding my face. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.480 So I basically ran away from boy Meat's World all 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:39.080 my life. Um as right as it were, And I think, yeah, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:43.680 so for me, this is really gonna be interesting. Um. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.880 You know, my relationship to the show has changed drastically 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.680 over the years. I now have a kid, um, and 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.320 I am going to watch this show with my son 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.560 because he is now he's seven, and he has reached 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.520 the age where I think it's appropriate to watch Boy 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.240 Meat's World. Um, certainly the first season and um, and 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.160 he's like he likes sitcoms now, so yes, so I'm 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.640 really excited to see it through his eyes. Um, I'm 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.120 really excited to remember. I actually have a lot of 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.719 memories of filming. Um, this was a huge part of 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.560 my life. I UM, so I have. I have a 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.960 ton of memories to share behind the scenes, especially the 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.119 early years. I don't know why. I guess when you're younger, 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.920 you know, these experiences just sort of lock in place. Um. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.479 But yeah, but mostly for me, this is about UM. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.360 You know, I think I spent a lot of my 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.960 twenties avoiding Boy Meets World. There was a lot of 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.080 I went to college in New York right after we 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.479 finished the show, and I just wanted to be a student. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.400 I wanted to be an academic. I now write and direct. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.480 I moved away from acting completely, and so a lot 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.360 it just feels like a lot of my life has 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.200 been distancing myself from this huge part of my life that, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:55.719 of course of the human population associates me with. UM 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.960 and you know, and then with Girl Meets World, there 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.120 was you know, going back to direct that show and 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.480 like that changed how I felt about so just I'm 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.719 in an interesting place. I think I'm going to really 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.400 like the show now. Like I think this is a 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.880 chance for me to appreciate it the way uh I 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.080 probably should have at the time, and um, you know, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.000 because of my own issues, I did not. Um, so 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.480 I'm really excited to like feel good about this part 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.200 of my life because personally it's always felt great. My 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.000 relationship with you guys has always been so positive. Um, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.919 I feel like we have so many shared positive memories 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.240 and um, I learned so much. But certainly in terms 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.880 of the cultural like what Boy Meets World is. I 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.680 didn't watch TV growing up, so like I didn't really 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.120 understand even what we were doing at the time. So 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.360 this will be interesting. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's a lot 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.960 to unpack in the first episode. Oh yeah, well we 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:51.120 got a uh yeah. My my relationship with the show 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:52.960 I think was different was well, it was definitely different 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.599 than that. Was also different because we were, Um you know, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:01.440 as you get older, four years in a seems like nothing, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.640 but sixteen in year twelve and you're both twelve, there's 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.800 the four years is a big difference. So I had 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.160 a much different experience on Boy Me tw World than 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.080 than really any of you. Did you know, I only 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.760 had to go to school the first year and and uh, 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.320 you know, it wasn't in the classroom the whole time. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.880 But I have seen them all. I haven't seen them 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.920 since they were on. I watched them when they first 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.160 came out. I was never a PARTI er kind of 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.280 Everyone was like, oh, l a kids, and you're at clubs. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:28.480 I still have never been to a club in my 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:32.800 entire life, you know, So Friday night I was home essentially, 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.440 and I would watch Boy Me Tworld. I I did. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.960 It's as as horrible as that sounds, um, but I 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.040 haven't seen them since except for you know we've done. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.440 That was a positive experience for you, like watching it? Yeah, yeah, 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:45.800 I did. You know. It was one of those things 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.800 where it was a culmination of a lot of work 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.600 and it was all I ever wanted to be. Yeah, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.720 you were like, yeah, I love a TV actor, And 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.880 that's all I ever wanted to be was on a sitcom. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.400 I know. I always tell people I never wanted to 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.080 be Michael J. Box on Back to the Future. I 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.040 wanted to be Michael J. Fox in Family Ties. That's 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.240 all I ever wanted. So I loved what I was doing. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.000 I loved every day of it. I didn't want to 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.600 go home. I didn't want to go to sleep. I 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.080 just wanted to be on the set. I wanted to 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.720 be in front of the audience. I wanted to find 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.800 jokes that weren't there that was like my joy. So 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.240 I loved every second of it. I mean, again, looking 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:19.800 back at it, you you look back with the eyes 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.600 and adult and you say, well, wow, there's a lot 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.640 I want to kind of as we said, unpack um. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.320 But it was it was as for the product itself, 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.080 as least as I remember it, you know, seeing it 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:32.760 at twenty four, the last time I saw it. And 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.199 then of course we've done things like we always talked 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.040 about the Scream episode, which we'll get too. So I've 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.800 seen that ten times because I've had to you know, oh, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.280 we're gonna watch that with an audience, so we're gonna 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.040 watch that and then do a panel. So it's I've 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.200 seen that. I've seen the plays with Girls episode because 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:47.720 when I came back on Girl Meat World, I had 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.040 to make sure I remembered what that character is like. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.080 But other than that, I haven't but as you both know, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.760 I have kind of a creepy memory, So whenever the 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.640 show is on in front of me, I'm right back 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.760 where it was. I remember the next line coming, I 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.480 remember what I felt as I was doing it. I 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.160 remember what happened backstage, like I remember it all when 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.560 it's back in front of me. Meanwhile, I'm like, what 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.840 were we doing? There was a whole episode about like, Yeah, 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.240 there's so many weird episodes that I look at them 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.240 like that's me. I see me talking, but I have 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:24.000 absolutely zero memory of being in that scene. It's crazy, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.480 it's weird. It's more of an empathetic thing for me 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.960 where I I get the I remember how I felt 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.320 when I was doing it, and I instantly feel the 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.520 same way. So it's it's either I'm very anxious, you know, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.439 like we'll get into talking about how we're going to 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.360 watch the first episode, but I watched it first episode 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.720 and even pressing play, I was anxious. And I knew 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.240 I was going to be anxious because not only am 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.080 I an anxious person, but going back into the world, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.720 and also because I was so anxious when we did 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.240 the pilot. I was so anxious when we did the 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.600 first episode, so I instantly kind of channeled that feeling again. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.400 It's very odd to go back, but um, I think 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.120 it's about time that we do, frankly, because we're coming 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.440 at it from three different places. Yeah, I hope I 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.080 have a similar experience to Will, and I wish I 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.840 had more of a similar memory experience like writer, I don't. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.200 I loved every second of doing the show when I 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.360 was a kid. I loved it, um certainly when we 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.160 first started season one, season two, season three. By the 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.880 time we got to the seventh season, sixth season, even 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.400 I was starting to be like but like the beginning 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.960 of it, I loved every second of it, and all 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.040 I cared about was but I got to do more, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.040 and I felt the same way Will did, Like I 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:32.680 just wanted to be on set. It was hard for 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.600 me to sleep. I'd get excited, but you know, before 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.400 the next day of work. And yet, as it's probably 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.000 something I should unpack in therapy or something, I don't 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.480 have a lot of memories like I have very like 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.960 and I don't know why I don't. There was no 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.920 like trauma in my childhood that I'm aware of. I 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.160 just I had a really like positive life experience, and 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.280 I loved being on the show, and yet memories for 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.520 me over all stages of my life are very few 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.160 and far between, and I don't really know why. So 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.680 I have a theory about that. I have So my 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.440 theory about that is essentially, no matter what you're doing, 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.559 how extraordinary it is, if you do it every day, 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.240 it just becomes your day to day life. So going 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.080 and asking, you know, somebody who wasn't on a television show, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.120 talk to me about what it was like, you know, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.600 certain weeks during the sixth grade, you're also not going 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.040 to have those same kind of memories. I mean, it's 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.000 just well, that's the thing. Our weekly schedule was the same, right, right, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.959 and we should talk about that. I feel like we 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.880 should explain what it was like to actually be on 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.520 the show because because, yeah, it becomes regular even though 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.000 each episode is different. There obviously, you know, we're playing 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.080 the same character, We're in the same sets for the 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.240 most part, and then behind the scenes, we're following the 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.120 same schedule every week. We go to school for certain hours, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.520 we rehearsed for certain hours, we have the live show 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.400 on Thursday night where the audience comes in. We're wearing 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.680 a lot of the same wardrobe. So in a weird way, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.120 it lends itself to amnesia, right, it becomes repetitive and 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.560 you start taking it for granted. Um, But unlike you, Daniel, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.839 I was I didn't want to be there from the gig. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.080 I remember. I have this very distinct memory of of 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.000 when we got picked up for the back nine and 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.680 calling my girlfriend at the time, Bag in Northern Caliber 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.040 when I was thirteen years old, just so love sick as, 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.040 which we will certainly talk about because I always was 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.000 love sick and I just remember telling her like I 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.960 signed a seven year contract I will be twenty years old, 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.360 that this show keeps going, and thinking that was just death, 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.040 like that was going to be the worst thing. Can 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.160 you imagine if this possibly kept going until I was 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.480 twenty because I just did, you know, I wanted to 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:33.920 be home. I wanted to be like with me and 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:47.400 and yeah, and then that's exactly what happened. So question, 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.200 why were you on the show? Why were you an 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.840 actor who didn't want the job? What was the motivating 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.960 factor then to become an actor? Great question. No, I 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.120 definitely wanted to be an actor. Boy Meat's world was 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.000 like my job up, do you know what I mean? Like, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.000 I was already It's so crazy to think about, but 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.520 at thirteen, I was all pretty cynical. I had already done. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.760 I had already done the TV series that I wanted 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.480 to do, which was a TV series where I got 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.439 to play Julie Andrew's son, and I, you know, I 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.520 had a much bigger part. It was so much fun. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.040 It was my first sitcom. We did seven episodes. Blake 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.520 Edwards was directing, a legendary director. It was like and 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.720 and we had all the attention, you know, Julie Andrews, 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.280 the sound of music, Mary Poppins. I was playing her son. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.120 I loved it so much. And we had done that 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.480 for two years before Boy Meets World, and it only 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.240 filmed seven episodes and they dumped it. The show just 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.679 got dumped on the summer program on Saturday nights. And 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.280 so by the time Boy Meets World came around, it 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.280 was like I had agents and managers and everybody saying, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.160 this is good, you should just get on another pilot, 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.680 just do another pilot this year. And I wanted to 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.160 do movies. I wanted to do plays. I you know, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.960 I started with Lama's Rob like I thought, you know, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.200 I just I just thought, like, and here was boy 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.720 Meets World, which at the time, if you guys remember 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.840 it is called the untitled Ben Savage Project. It was 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.400 being built around Ben, and so my part was tiny. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.680 I think in the original pilot script only had two lines. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.560 And so I, you know, I I wanted to act, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.760 but for me, Boy Me Toord was just like one 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.080 of the many jobs I was doing or that I 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.920 wanted to do, And so the fact that it became 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.360 this hit surprised me and sort of threw me for 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.160 a loop. And like I said, I didn't watch television, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.200 so I didn't even really understand like what we were doing, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:32.720 like what a sitcom was versus um a soap opera 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.400 versus a movie. You know, I I liked movies, but 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.320 when it came to television, I didn't understand like the form. 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.560 I didn't I didn't watch that form format growing up. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.400 So I always, you know, I just was kind of 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.400 like lost and kind of felt I felt like an outsider. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.000 Frankly um and I felt like an outsider in Los Angeles. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.280 I never felt super comfortable like around other actors. And 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.240 it wasn't until our set that I really became friends 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.080 with other child actors. You know, I think there's a 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.920 protective thing. You know, every every child actor has a 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.280 parent behind them, at least one who's helping them, you know, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.520 manage and navigate their career. And yeah, I mean that's true. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.080 You were older and you used to just take a 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.360 bus into New York City right by myself. My parents 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.880 are lawyers, my dad was. We got a lot to 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.240 impact that. But yeah, but I mean I guess like 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.600 for me, there was always this fear sort of you know, 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.840 bread into me by my parents of like and my 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.880 parents were always afraid of being a stage parent, right 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.480 and then being a brady child actor like those There 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.600 was this fear. It's like this this lingering thing that 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.200 constantly hangs over you as a child actor, Like you 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.040 don't want to be like them and they're like these 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.920 monsters who only care about like, you know, getting the 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:53.000 job and fame, and like that was like this bread 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.720 into me by that by the time I did bore 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.240 me to world that like it was a protective show 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:58.880 that my parents had sort of put around me, like 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:00.840 make sure you have a nor more childhood and make 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.680 sure you stay in school and focus on you know 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.080 the important things in life, and don't get too caught 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.680 up like acting is great, the art is great, but 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.400 don't get too caught up in you know, the craziness. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.760 And there was craziness, you know. I mean it's like 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.320 we did pretty well, Like at a lot of the 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.640 nineties kid actors turned out way better. But if you 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.560 think about the eighties, like there was this sort of 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.920 reputation of like you're going to hold up a liquor 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.480 store one day if you don't keep working right, or 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.920 you're gonna you're gonna become a drug addict, or like 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.520 being a child actor was fraught. It was constantly fraught 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.760 with this danger like you're gonna fall off a cliff 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.760 if you're not careful, and your whole life could be ruined. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.920 And we all felt that, right, I mean like there 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:43.440 was an awareness of that, and I think I just 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.160 internalized it. So let's let's actually talk a little bit 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.120 about what our Boy Meets World schedule was, because it 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.240 wasn't It was a little bit of a unique schedule 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:57.960 because Michael Jacobs um celebrates the Sabbath on Friday evenings 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.120 and so which is when most most shows shoot. Most 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.720 show shoots, like most shows have a Monday through Friday schedule, 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.520 which is what I think people think of when they 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.280 think of starting a work week. You go to work 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:09.919 on Monday, you enterer week on Friday, and you have 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.399 the weekend. UM Michael wanted to have our live studio 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.399 audience tapings on Thursday nights, which meant our first day 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:22.600 of rehearsal was Friday morning. And every show, every sitcom show, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:26.040 starts off UM their week with a table read. So 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.199 Friday morning we would show up to a room like 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.800 a conference room and there were lots of chairs set 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.160 up and the ABC and Disney executives would be sitting 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.440 in those seats, along with our parents or whoever else 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:41.440 was there, our studio teachers, UM, and the some of 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.560 the crew. And then we had a long conference table 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.639 set up with name tags for all the actors and 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.200 that there were two tables. They were set up like 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.280 a t so a really long one for all the actors. 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.160 And then at the top of the tea was where 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.720 the writers, producers Michael Jacobs where and the director where 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.760 they sit and then we just read the script. Did 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.000 you guys prep before a table read or did you 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.960 like to go in cold um. So first of all, 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.520 I think one of the things we we have to 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.760 say is we eventually got a room. If if memory serves, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.080 when we started, we were in trailers. Do you remember 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:18.399 that at at the Disney lot, we were in like 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:22.520 this big trailer. I don't remember that at all. So 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.840 this big trailer is where we had our for I 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.880 distinctly remember. So my parents to live in the same 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:29.720 house back in Connecticut where I grew up. I was 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.760 home not too long ago, and I was cleaning out 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.880 my desk and I came upon I kept a diary 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.359 for like the first three months. I did boy, because 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:39.800 of course I was going to write in it every day. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.080 And it lasted about three months. And the first entry 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:47.000 was the first table read and I literally I read 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.520 it was the two page thing. And I was talking 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.040 about how we walked into the trailer. I you know, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:19:01.000 we met this diary right now, But I remember the 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.439 thing I remember most about it. So we would I 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.680 would prep as much as I could, having any idea 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.639 what I was doing, because we didn't get the scripts 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.679 the night until the night until the night before. We 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.560 get the scripts and we get them delivered because of 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:17.760 course nothing was emailed so envelope. But drive to our 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:22.879 house and drop a script off on the porch, and 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.439 we will get into more about why that is awful 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.359 for the production assistant when they're rewriting till four o'clock 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.960 in the morning. But we get there and I had 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.119 never done a table read. I did not know we 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.000 were starting with a table read. I did not know 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.760 what it was. And they we I walked in with 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.000 the script. They sat me down at the table. My 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.640 mom was there. I'll never forget that. And my hands 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.400 and feet were shaking so much that I kept everything 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.360 tucked under the table. So for the first table read, 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.800 it's just like my head was sticking above the table 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.239 as everything was shaking, and so I prepped as much 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.639 as I could. But I didn't know anybody. I didn't 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.960 know what I was doing. We will get into watching 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.359 first episode. Clearly, I didn't know what I was doing 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.399 until several episodes into the series. Um, but it was 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.879 it was really scary. And then you read it like 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.480 a straight play. You read it straight through, like from 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.080 beginning to end. Somebody's reading the stage directions to Pango, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.320 walks in to Chubbies and sits down with Corey, Hey, Corey, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.640 how's everything going? So, I mean, you read it straight through, 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.320 and this is really a process to test jokes fundamentally, 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.000 you know, and to see if the episode is working, 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.679 because what the writers are doing is they're listening and 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:33.320 they're taking notes and if people don't laugh, that's that's gone. 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.000 And there were things where the actor was gone too 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.160 after a table read. You It didn't happen all of them, 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.280 but there were times where it was like they were 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.320 not just testing us but also the actor and it 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.480 was like, hey, I can't wait to work with you. Jimmy, 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.720 where's Jimmy. Jimmy's gone. Jimmy had two jokes and somehow 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.480 missed three of them, so he's gone. It's really it's 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.280 a constantly evolved like throughout the week, the script is 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:57.000 being rewritten multiple times a day. We you know, after 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.399 the table read, we then go into the rehearsal period, 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.880 which based last the next three days where we're rehearsing 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:07.119 on our feet with their scripts in hand, and the 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:08.960 you know, the scripts are constantly changing, so you can't 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.760 memorize anything. You know, some of us would, but as 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.000 we got better, I feel like we did start memorizing 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.240 it almost immediately, like your brain clicked into this zone. 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.680 But for the most part we'd be on stage and 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.280 and and it would just be the actors, the director, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:28.320 a script supervisor. Who else would be there, like maybe props, 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:31.199 the teacher, A very small group of us would be 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.439 going through the scenes and putting it on its feet. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.399 And we would do that the first day, get new 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:42.920 scripts that night. It was a very light rehearsal because 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.479 Mike Will said there was almost always a full script 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.400 rewrite immediately after table read, and so they were rewriting 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.879 on Friday, which lets the director and the actors know, 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.600 don't memorize too much of this, don't put it on 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:56.920 its feet too much, because whole things may change. Sets 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.880 may you may not be no longer in the classroom, 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:00.439 You're going to be in the living room, like a 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:01.879 lot of things can change. So you do like a 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.280 really fast light rehearsal on Friday, and then you come 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:08.360 in ready to go on Monday for a full Monday 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:12.400 rehearsal and then run through that night for the producers 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.679 and writers. The network run through is not until the 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.760 next day. Now I didn't even know what to run through. 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.080 Was nobody. Nobody prepared me for any of this. So 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:21.920 when they're like, hey, are you ready for the run through? 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.280 I had no idea what that meant. So what is 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.600 a run through? Will explain that. So a run through 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.760 is you do the entire show from beginning to end. 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.040 You're holding the scripts because you don't you haven't memorized 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:37.320 the lines by this point. Costumes, nomes, no props, no cameras. 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.879 You're just running it through like a play, from beginning 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.840 to end. There's a bank of director's chairs set up 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.040 in front of whatever. You know, say you're in the 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.240 classroom scene, there's a bank of director's chairs. All the 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:51.000 producers and directors sit there, which is basically where the 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:55.600 fourth wall should be, because everything camera, where the cameras 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.720 would be, there's just a bank of chairs. And then 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:00.800 we run, we go through it, and we'd blinds and 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.880 we'd miss jokes and we you know, then you literally 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.080 you would get up and walk to the next area 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.360 where there be more chairs set up, and you'd continue 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.160 the show and you'd run it from beginning to end. Uh. 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.640 And I did not know that was happening. And then 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.159 I also did not know that was followed, especially on 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.760 a Michael Jacobs set, by the note session, the notes. 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.560 Someone talk about the note session please, because I'm getting 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:27.199 adjective just thinking. So typically after a run through the 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.640 everybody gathers in one of the sets. Everyone sits down, 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.680 all the actors and one side, and all the writers 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.960 on the other side, and the executive producer and or 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.200 the director, but mostly the executive producer gives feedback on 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.399 what just happened on the run through. And this feedback session, 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.560 I think on most shows probably is like twenty minutes, 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.399 which is like, hey, this joke didn't work, and they 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.320 give notes to the actors if they have any like hey, 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.879 could you try it this way? Try it that way. 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.560 With Michael Jacobs, who was the creator of Boymate's World, um, 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.760 he's kind of he was really into the notes sessions. 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:03.280 We would have one to two hour long notes sessions 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.159 and he would open up a script and say, all right, 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.639 page one line one, page one line one, page one 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:13.280 line one and uh the memory I can hear his 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:19.560 pages turning, snap snap snap. Yeah. Michael took notes sessions 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:24.520 to a performance art. It was really just about him 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:27.720 giving you know. He would he would most often talk 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:29.919 to the actors. He wouldn't talk so much about the 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.240 script at that stage. As the show went on, it 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.080 became more of an open process, I feel like where 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.520 he would admit, like, oh, we gotta fix this whole 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:38.520 scene or this whole thing. But for the most part 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:40.480 it was a chance for him to try and explain 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.440 to us, like what they were aiming for and where 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.640 we missed the markets actors or what was going wrong, um, 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.680 And and then they would go off after the two 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.359 hour notes session. The writers would then end up writing 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.119 all night, like you know, on our show as opposed 0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.399 to other shows, I think they would go into like 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.360 two in the morning that night rewriting, and then we'd 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.119 get a new script the next morning with some changes, um, 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.320 and then do it all over again this time and 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:09.399 the core p a farrier person would drop off the 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.439 scripts at whatever time they finished writing them, so that 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.400 we had them for the drive to work the next morning. 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:16.720 We didn't have to wait till we have to say 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.040 so much paper. But also like like a four am 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:24.440 do covered script would just be on the porch sometimes 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.639 because the sprinklers had gone on in the morning or 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.560 whatever and it had just been delivered and there are 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:32.200 eleven cast members that lived all over Los Angeles. It's 0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:33.840 not like Danielle and I right now where we live 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.640 thirty seconds from each other. It was somebody driving all 0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.359 over l A. And apparently they were you know, it 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:42.480 wasn't just for us. It was the thing that we 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.680 didn't realize is that every change they make effects wardrobe, 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.160 every change they make effects set to, every depiction head 0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.600 gets a script. Everybody got a script. So they were 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:55.199 delivering arguably fifty seventy five scripts a night. Um, you know, 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.640 all over Los Angeles at three o'clock in the morning. 0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.800 These poor p a s for no money and I 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:01.879 mean just to be part of the industry, and they're 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:05.520 the unsung heroes of the show. But it was, it 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:09.000 was the whole experience was was insane. And then and 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.200 then we get to so that was Monday, and that 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:17.720 was studio run. That was we should also insert. Meanwhile, 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.200 for those of us children who were in school, we 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:23.960 have to do by California state law, three hours of 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:28.040 school a day. So what sounds like nothing, no, but 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:30.000 it's actually a lot when you're one on one with 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.600 a teacher. In our case, we had we had two teachers. 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.600 Ultimately the show, and we first started we only had one, 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.720 but ultimately we ended up having two teachers who they 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.119 are basically our personal tutors because all of us are 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.480 in different grades. Ben and I was one grade older 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.040 than Ben, and Danielle you were even a grade younger 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.760 than Ben. I think when you were in high school. 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.919 I was a senior and enior high so we so 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.600 you had two teachers having to navigate completely different subject 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.359 matters um and we would get all of our work 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.159 from our school ahead of time, and so we'd be 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.359 showing up with our own textbooks, our own subjects, our 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.879 own set of requirements, and these teachers would spend you know, 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.320 three to four hours a day with us being like 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.200 all right, right, or you're working on your English paper 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:13.879 right now, go ahead, that's what you're doing for the 0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.800 next twenty minutes. Then you have Latin, and then they'd 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.000 be doing Latin declensions with Ben and like, you know, 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.800 it's just our classroom became, you know, this whole other 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.440 level of work that we were doing. So even when 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.560 you know, normally on a show you would get a 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.320 break and be able to sit in your dressing your room, 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.040 and I don't know the break is usually then when 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.200 you're not in the scene, so the scene now doesn't 0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.680 involve Sean or doesn't involve air, if it doesn't involve 0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.840 to Pega, you would normally then go get a break. 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:40.800 And for us, that's where we would go, get to bank, 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.960 twenty or thirty minutes of school, go do twenty or 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.480 thirty minutes of school. It wasn't ever three hours of 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.720 school consecutively. It was twenty minutes here, forty minutes there, 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.520 possibly an hour if you were so lucky. Um, and 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:55.040 so we'd run back to our classroom and uh school 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:59.879 as we can pass the spic craft craft service tables 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:04.400 have good How many Twizzlers are there? Yea? There so much, 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.360 so much food and nothing to get. But so much 0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.440 of our social life did revolve around the school classroom, 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.399 you know, which is interesting because I think people always 0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.520 imagine us on set hanging out, which we did, but 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.560 when we were on set, we were often working on 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:20.840 the scene. Are real, downtime are real like getting to 0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.280 know each other, hanging out, getting to know each other's parents, 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:24.840 who were always there. By the way, we always had 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:26.840 to have our parents, so you you have to imagine 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.600 that there's a you know, for every kid, there's a parent. 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.480 Also on set, there's a studio, there's a studio teacher 0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.800 or two, and we would be hanging out. We would 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.040 have the craft service table, which is the table that 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.520 has all the snacks and coffee and tea, and then 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.800 there'd be our classroom, which was a trailer the first season. 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:47.520 It was just a trailer, had a couch and tables 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.680 and like you know, we our studio teachers would put 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.560 little posters on the wall and try and make it 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.720 look like a classroom. But it never really felt like 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.640 a classroom because I wasn't a cat with the hang 0:28:56.680 --> 0:29:00.400 in there baby, you know, like okay, but that's where 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.760 our social life like really like that's where we really 0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.120 got to know each other, right, is like running around 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.440 backstage um, and you know, and the stage itself is 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:12.480 these huge sound stages like just these big warehouse um. 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.160 And we were on the Disney lot the first year, 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.480 which is which was the biggest stage by the way, 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.360 in their film stage which is which is stage two, 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.040 which is was not broken in half. Most of the 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.000 stages were broken in half and in behalf the sides. 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:29.480 We were in this cavernous, ridiculous stage where it was like, oh, 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.520 we've got to build a giant pirate ship building on 0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:35.320 stage two. So that home improvement store. Ye. And then 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.880 was thunder ali going that first season, Yes, thunder Alley 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.840 with Andrew Keegan and who else was on that ed 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:47.200 um uh he passed not to ed Asner. Oh yeah, 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.160 that's right. So there was So there was this weird 0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:53.280 little community too of like our outside of our stage, 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.239 there was a there was a wreck room that they 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:57.840 had set up for all the kids of Disney. Do 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.680 you remember this we where we did him. Yeah. Yeah, 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.000 So we had pe which basically meant we'd go and 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.720 play ping pong or football football. We did play football 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.440 on asphalt by the way, which with the home improvement 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.040 kids all the time, it was it was like oh wait, okay, 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.480 so Jonathan Taylor Thomas is on Leon Nora, so that's 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.200 not a good matchup right, I'm going to hit you 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.760 in the corner. They're trying not to, you know, run 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.600 into the rusty nails on the side of that thing. Wait. 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.600 And then Haley Joel Osmond was on thunder Alley too, right, 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.720 kid though, like he was Yeah, but it was I 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.560 remember you. They brought in Nintendo six was it wasn't 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.720 even sixty four at the time. It was Nintendo whenever. 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.680 The second one was Superintendo, Super Nintendo. And you were 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:46.080 a street Fighter from your Master street Fighter two street 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:50.120 Fighter to Master and every time oh yeah, oh yeah, 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:51.960 that's the thing. He became a joke. It was just 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.040 you know what it was. It was wreck. It was 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.600 like R and R, you know, like to let us 0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.680 out in the yard. We could do whatever we want 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.320 a cigarettes and we did, but it was you try 0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.040 to play writer in in Street Fighter. And one could 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.400 be the most frustrating thing ever still to this day, 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.360 and that was Jim. That was just then go hey, 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.000 I got my exercise in. Then I'd go and smoke 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.280 a cigarette and go back to work. What are you 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:22.840 smoking at the time, Yes, was smoking king sixteen year old, 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.400 like kidding. By sixteen, I'd already been smoking first. And 0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.840 the most fun thing about that is that like none 0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.440 of the grown ups like stopped you or like they 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:34.600 were like, okay, you know it, because now they down 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.360 are you kidding? I? I had just celebrated that, and 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.120 I'm telling I would need to tell everybody this. On 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.200 the seven of May, I celebrated my eighth year without 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.840 a cigarette. Please quit smoking. It's very horrible for you. 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.440 But by the time I knew it was bad for me, 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.120 I was hooked. So I mean I was. I was 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.400 smoking heavily by fourteen, and I'd already probably started smoking 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.959 at eleven. I was going to New York, I was 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.160 already on television. I was, you know, it was the 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.160 thing to do, and then you start doing it because 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:03.880 it's cool, and then you're addicted to it. And where 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:05.840 would you smoke at Disney? I remember you smoking it 0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.959 wrap side right outside the stage. I don't remember that area, 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:14.120 Like I guess. I just didn't hide anything, like my 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.280 pack of cigarettes in my shirt pocket. And Bill Daniels 0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.479 every day would walk up to me and he tapped 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.800 the pack of cigarettes and ego right next to your 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.240 heart and walk away and just he would do that, 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.080 or he would do that every day, every single day, 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:29.640 right next to your heart. And it's like one of 0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.920 those things where you're like, come on, I'm sixteen, I 0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:33.960 know the world. I know everything, And you look back 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.480 now and it's like, man, if you just listened, you know, 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.719 of course that is the hashtag to yours. So if 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.680 you're you're young and you're smoking or you're thinking thinking 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.640 to smoke, so it's just not worth it. It really 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.800 is not worth it. So yeah, I mean I was 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.800 already I had a much different Like you talk about 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.560 parents on the setting all stuff, I am from a 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:55.600 very close knit family. It sounds like I'm not, but 0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.080 I'm from a very very close knit family. My parents 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:02.280 just celebrated their fifty wedding anniversary fifty ninth wedding anniversary. 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.840 Were all super close. But my parents are were two 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.880 lawyers in Connecticut. My dad is still a practicing lawyer's 0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.640 eighty three years old. My mom ran all three of 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.640 the courts in Connecticut. My dad was also a captain 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.600 the Navy. They're like, if you want to go do 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:15.280 this you we're not going to stand in your way, 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.240 but we can't give up our lives to come with you. 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.680 So they used to pick me up at school, drop 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.320 me off at the bus in Farming Tea in Connecticut. 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.000 I'd take a three hour bus ride down in New York, 0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.160 where my manager would pick me up most of the time. 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.880 Sometimes he didn't. I was ten or eleven, I'd walk 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.040 the streets in New York go to my audition, grab 0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.280 a slice of pizza, come back and go and go 0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.160 home and buy eleven or twelve. I lived in the 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.320 city because I was on a show, and then I 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.800 got Boy, Met World, and that was it. My first 0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.400 guardian was my oldest brother's fraternity brother, Spencer, who is 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.120 still a good friend of mine, lives right down the street. 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.760 You live in the city with my oldest brother, my 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.600 oldest brother at the time, with Gary. No no no no. 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.880 I live with Gary, my older brother Gary. At the time, 0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.160 I was eleven years old, twelve years old doing don't 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.000 just sit there. So I lived in New York with Gary, 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.000 who is retired from Wall Street at forty five years old, 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:05.640 but at the time to live with me. Took a 0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.200 job as a janitor and was a januitor in New 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.400 York so we could have an apartment, and I was 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.200 on a show at Nickelodeon. I was on Nickelodeon from 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:14.880 like twelve to fifteen, and then I got Boy at 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.799 sixteen and moved out to l A. But and you 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.040 were that cool guy from New York, you know. They 0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.320 were always when your kids, when your kid after you 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.480 always auditioned for stuff, and then it always comes down 0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.680 to the same three people. You know, it's like because 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.319 because there's the pool was very limited back then, so 0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.040 it was like, you know, it's always me Elijah Wood 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.839 and like, uh Ben. I first met Ben because Ben 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.759 and I screen tested against each other for Newsies. Do 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.719 you guys remember, of course, yeah, the musical news Hees. 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:42.680 So it was down to Luke Edwards who ended up 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.200 getting it. This kid named Ben Savage who I met 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.680 that day, and then me Um and we all we 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.800 had we had to sing, we had to dance and act, 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.160 and back then they did screen tests on thirty five 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.040 millimeter on the Disney lot, so we had a full 0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.160 film shoot. Anyway, that's a whole another shot. But but yeah, 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.359 but so but then there was always whenever they would 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.600 have these auditions, like there would always be that cool 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.319 guy from New York. You'd get flown in from New 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.000 York and they always got the part. You'd always be like, ah, 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:11.960 we're just the other schmucks from l A. Will always 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.040 see each other. But yeah, I remember, Yeah, your life 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:16.840 must have been so different from ours as far as 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.840 being a kid actor man, because in the woods in 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.759 Connecticut and it was like, you know, I would I 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.359 would go back to my regular life in Connecticut, which 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:25.560 was the best. But then I, oh, I have an 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.360 audition today, I have to go shoot a commercial today. 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.879 The bus would pick me up. I would go down 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.760 to the bus and I would do my job whatever 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.680 I had to do, and then back home to Connecticut. 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.960 You know. It was That's just that's how it was. 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.200 So it was much different from me. The whole l 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.880 A thing was very When I finally didn't move out 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.000 to Los Angeles, I didn't like it. It was very weird. 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.200 I was very disconnected from everybody. You guys were so 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.040 much younger than I was, and I was right in 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:52.839 the middle. So I was either too old or too 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.719 young to really hang out with anybody. Um. Luckily I 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.960 met Marsden right away, and and so Jason who played 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.000 Jason mars who is still still one of my best 0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.600 friends in the world. And um, we had a small 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.600 little group of friends. But they're like, hey, man, didn't 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.200 you go a party and do my I would get 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.480 back to to Connecticut, my friends like, what's the club 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.200 seem like? I was like, I don't know what. I 0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.640 don't know the racket clubs, okay, what they let me in, 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.160 But I just it was not that kind of big 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.040 party thing for me, and it was yeah, very okay. 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:30.239 So we've made it to Wednesday. So Wednesday was pre 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.919 tape day, and so we were finally bring We talked 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.000 about Tuesday run through being for the network, then they 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.160 brought up the networking. Tuesday was then the same day 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:42.280 rehearsal day, and then we run again for network um 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.279 and then Network gets to give notes to Michael, and 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.000 then Michael get deliver's notes to us, and then Wednesday 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.319 they bring in cameras and we shoot everything that we're 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.480 not going to shoot in front of the audience. So 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.000 all of the sets that take place directly in front 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:57.879 of the audience are usually the ones that you want 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.800 the audience to see. Anything that's called on a swing 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:02.839 set that's like off to the side that you can't see, 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.839 you shoot that stuff, or a scene that maybe does 0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:07.920 take place right in front of the audience but is 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.520 very intricate or detailed or extremely long and it's going 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.080 to take a long time and you don't have that 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.239 much time in front of the audience. You shoot that 0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.799 on Wednesday, So that is called pre tape day. And interestingly, 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.359 on our show, they started bringing in an audience for 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.520 that pre tape day. Do you remember this? They figured out, Yes, 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.400 they figured out that we really thrived with an audience. 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.680 I mean, like all you know, good comedy shows and 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.000 so what they they figured out that on Wednesdays they 0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.359 could bring in school buses of school kids and like 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.759 make it like a field trip. So we started having 0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:44.040 really small audiences of just high schoolers or like kids 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.239 on Wednesday. So we started doing our pre tape with 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.480 an audience, which is really unusual. Yeah, that was something 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.960 that I don't think other shows ever really did. And 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:54.759 what you know, I might have been jumping ahead. It 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.560 might not have been until third or fourth season that 0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.480 we started doing that, but certainly, like we we broke 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:01.920 the sort of a calm rules by having an audience. 0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.600 Did we do that through the end? By see if 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.240 the season seven we were bringing in an audience on Wednesday. 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.040 Really I kind of remember it at the end. I 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:16.640 kind of remember a weird but Thursday, we still pre 0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.920 tape stuff in the early part of the day, right 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.800 we'd be pre taping, we'd be rehearsing for camera because 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.880 the camera people, you have four cameras going at the 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.400 same time and basically The way you you shoot a 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.400 sitcom multi camera sitcom is that you're performing at like 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.680 a play, and then the cameras are also constantly moving. There, 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.640 these big cameras on wheels, so the camera operators have 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.120 to make sure that they set up the shot for 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.320 the joke or for the person that has the next line, 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.920 So they're basically memorizing the script like the actors, or 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:46.800 they're just kind of on the fly making sure that 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.040 they get the shots that they need. So it's like 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.959 this interesting ballet between the actors moving around the set 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.600 doing the scene and the cameras where the fourth wall 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.239 is also moving around and shifting and trading places. And 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.520 so we would rehearse to get that of them down 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.600 so that we could only do we would only have 0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.239 to do two or three takes in front of the 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.360 audience and just really make it, give it that live sense, 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.279 you know, like what I mean. And this is the 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.840 form that I love. Lucy really established. They did it 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.520 with three cameras. By the time they got to us, 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.440 it was four cameras, um. And it's an amazing form. 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.680 I mean it it's kind of old fashioned now, right, 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:24.760 it's like gone out of style. It's but it's almost 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:26.879 like a radio play, you know what I mean. It's 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.000 like it doesn't look real like the set, you know, 0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.239 the way people interact, with the way people move, it's 0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.200 not realistic, but it's so fun. It's it's it's like 0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.320 sort of the last connection between television and live theater. 0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.000 And as an actor, it's the best because it's so 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.680 much easier. Like when you do single camera shows, you 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.040 have to you know, redo the same thing over and 0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.560 over for a million different camera angles. They have to 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.400 adjust the lighting every time. In this case, you just 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.080 do it two or three times and you try and 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.480 make it as funny as possible. Yeah, and you know, 0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.560 it's also really great to what was back then a 0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.560 special because we there was no social media, so we 0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:06.160 didn't have direct contact with people watching the show ever 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.239 unless we were out in the world after the show 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.600 started airing, and every now and then people might say, hey, 0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.600 are you I watched that show, But otherwise our our 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.280 direct contact with people who watched the show was non existent. 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.960 And so getting a group of people whether or not 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.000 they had ever seen the shoot the show before, we 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.600 didn't know or didn't care, but we knew people were 0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.120 going to get to see us do it in live time, 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.800 and the energy that the audience brings from the moment 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.200 it's Thursday morning, we just know like, oh my gosh, 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.560 I have this live, live show day energy. And you 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.600 could hear them getting loaded into the audience and we're 0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.080 getting our hair and makeup done backstage and you know 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.400 we're back. We're backstage and we're cracking jokes and I 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:50.120 Will is making fun of everyone's wardrobe. And then ritual, 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:55.799 a cast ritual. We had the cast screens scream because 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:57.640 they would introduce us one by one in front of 0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.719 the audience to start the show. Because I have a 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:03.759 war up MC comedian named Mitch what was Bank? Mitch 0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.319 Bank was our warm up. He was a comedian actor guy, 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.680 and so to produce Michael's other show, and he em 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.240 seed every one of our episodes from start to finish, 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.440 and he um so he would warm up the audience 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.040 and just talk to them, play games with them or whatever, 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:18.919 and then he would introduce us one at a time. 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.200 And so we would gather backstage behind one of the sets, 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.839 usually the living room set, and we would be so 0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.719 nervous and excited and all the stuff that would be 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.279 going into the week would just be bubbling and we 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.840 would put our hands together in a circle and scream 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.959 at the top of our lungs, and then we would 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.439 get introduced one by one um and then they would 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.319 be off to the races, getting the show that you know, 0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.360 I have to say exactly what Danielle was just talking about. 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:51.120 I might miss that energy before the show of all 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.200 of us standing back there, and it's exactly like Danielle said, 0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.920 there's there's this. It takes over all your senses. You 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:59.240 hear the audience come in, if you feel the temperature 0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.480 in the building rise a bit because there's now three 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.000 people in there. You hear them laughing at the warm up. 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:07.200 But especially when the later seasons, when you knew they 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.120 waited in line because they just wanted to see us. 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.520 It wasn't like, hey, what's this show? It's I can't 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.480 believe I get a chance to see Boy Meets World. 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.319 And there was such an energy about that that you 0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.200 feel like you can walk on water and all the 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.319 lights are down to it's all dark for the first 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.120 time because the week it's all just been you know, 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.920 worklights and you're just in the giant warehouse. But that 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:31.080 night everything gets dark. It's pitch black. Backstage, you're in 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.640 your wardrobe. You've got you know, it's like you've got 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.080 you've got crisp new clothes on, you know your lines, 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.799 You're ready to go. You're thinking about the jokes. We 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.240 have such a tight like bond because we've been working 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.440 on this through the week, so we've seen the evolution 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.520 of the script and of our characters and of our 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.880 rehearsal process, and we've complained to each other and maybe 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.239 like we've definitely rooted for each other, and we've seen 0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.000 us get bad notes and good notes, and here it is. 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:58.960 It's all culminating in this moment, and it's the most 0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:03.279 fun three and a half hours. You work the entire 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.279 week for those three and a half hours, and they 0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.480 call your name and you run out, and the audience screams, 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.640 and you get to see all your friends standing there 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.200 waiting to get knowing they feel exactly the way you do. 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.400 It's such a bond with the cast and uh and 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.680 then they yell action and you're just off to the races. 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.799 It's it's wonderful. It's wonderful, it really is. I miss it. 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:38.040 So I am very very excited for this podcast because I, Um, 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.839 I really want to do like this big nostalgia dive, 0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.440 not just two for the show, but even just for 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.960 my own life. I'm excited to do this nostalgia dive 0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:50.880 and talk about what we're wearing and what the style was, 0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:52.960 and whether or not I would still wear the thing 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.080 I'm wearing back then or whether I would never be 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.719 caught dead in it. Um. I'm looking forward to all 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.839 of that. I'm also super excited. We're going to have 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.880 ton of amazing guests. We are going to have Train McGee, 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:08.719 Betsy Randall, Rusty Russ who played Mom and Dad, Bill Daniels. 0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.680 Of course, the famous Mr Feeney is going to be 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:15.880 joining us. Um, We're going to have Matt Lawrence, maitland Ward. 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.360 We're also going to invite a lot of our famous 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:22.120 guest stars. Jason Marsden, who we already mentioned, is hopefully 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.640 going to come by and Okay, great, Yeah, We're gonna 0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.120 have a lot of a lot of great guest stars. 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.680 We're also going to have writers and directors and crew 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.560 if we're able to find them. Like talking about wardrobe, 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.799 there are several wardrobe people I would love to have 0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:40.880 on to talk about what The inspiration behind shirts on 0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:46.799 shirts on shirts was how many? The question became how 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:52.719 many hoods could you wear? Is three was one too many? 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:59.920 Too many? Let's find out about focus on. I mean, 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.080 hair was a big one, which is so weird because 0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.399 like I just remember thinking, like why do they care? 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:08.480 And then it became a thing like our hair. You know, 0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.040 people cared about it, like audiences would like, you know, 0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.560 like my hairstyle, this butt cut middle part, what do 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.680 you want to call it? I don't even know. It's 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.920 like become this iconic thing that I couldn't escape. You know, 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.200 I still can't escape, but uh, and like I just yeah, 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:24.960 there's there's a lot, there's a lot lot going. It 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:26.560 was a big Hair was a big thing. Hair was 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.480 a thing on our show. Yeah, very strange. So why 0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:32.040 don't we talk about some frequently asked questions? Just to 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.560 get some of these things out of the way. We 0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:36.520 know that we know you have them. We get asked 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.399 them all the time. I think the number one most 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:45.080 frequently asked question as of late is where's Corey? Just 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.920 like that because they don't know his name, Because you know, 0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:51.000 we get referred to as our characters more often than 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.680 not Um and we get it. You know, we were 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:55.600 in your house every week for seven years with those 0:45:55.680 --> 0:46:00.000 names not as Danielle Writer, Ben and and Will Um. 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:04.800 So where is Ben Savage? Ben Savage is um doing 0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.520 his own thing. He's doing Lifetime movies. He's busy. We 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.480 would love for him to have been a part of 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:12.960 the show. We asked him to be a part of 0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.280 the show. Um, we have been talking about this podcast 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:20.560 since two thousand eighteen. Yeah, it was actually Will's idea 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:26.839 was your idea? It was my I was the first person. 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.600 We all went to a convention, because conventions when we 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:31.800 get to meet our fans. And after one of the conventions, 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:33.600 I was like, why don't we just do a podcast 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.600 where we watch it? And it was before everybody did 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.440 it now everybody. It was literally it was before office ladies. 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.080 It was before rewatch podcasts or even a thing. Okay, 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.000 writer was Writer's idea. I was going to take the 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.800 credit to well, I'll take the credit my idea idea. 0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.640 And we were like, wow, that is a really good idea. 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.880 We should talk about it. And then we talked about 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.879 it with Ben and Ben was like, I'm not sure 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.560 it's really my thing, and we said, okay, we totally 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.359 understand and we'll come back to you if it ever 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.840 becomes anything. And then we took a couple of meetings 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.480 back in two thousand and eight talked about it. Then 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.160 UM brought it up to Ben again and said, are 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.200 you sure this is something we really want to do. 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:12.959 We think it could be really great and he said, 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:14.759 it just really is not my thing and we have 0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:18.759 respected that, and UM, it's not his thing. So that 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:23.239 is why Ben is not here. UM, and let's see 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.440 other frequently asked questions. Uh, we always get asked what 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.000 our favorite episode is that? Yes, which, and it's always 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:31.560 the same thing. We always say it's we call it 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.040 the screen episode, the screen episode, but it was called 0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.240 and then there was Sean, which was the Halloween episode. 0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.480 I think there are a bit more answers to that question, though, 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:40.960 because depends on what you mean. That is my favorite 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:43.759 episode because of the memory of making it. But if 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.880 you ask me what the quality of the episode is, 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.640 I think there are other answers. And I'm so curious 0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.400 because I only have memories. I don't know, you know, 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:54.480 watching it, there's going to be a new answer, basically, 0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:59.080 like going to discover oh, that is like a solid episode, 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:01.839 you know, in terms of objectively speaking, not just your 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:06.880 memories of it. To your point, the Scream episode is 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.560 my favorite episode for the memory of making it as 0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:14.120 an ensemble. I have other favorite memories of like favorite episodes, 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.719 especially from season one that just we're really salient to 0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.120 me as a little girl making the show like will. 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.919 One of my favorite episodes is the episode where out 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.279 of nowhere randomly to Panga has a crush on Eric 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.239 and Eric that was a great episode. No recollection of 0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.840 thatch a good episode. Grab your face, you come in 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:36.720 to kiss me, to kiss you, kiss me, you palm, 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.200 and I can remember what your palm smelled like, Like 0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:44.719 I right, for someone who has no memories at all, 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.520 I remember, and I think it was because it was 0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:51.480 super awkward. It was award you know, you were sixteen 0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:55.719 and I was twelve at that time and you were twelve. Yeah, 0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.000 and I and it was it was just awkward and weird, 0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.759 and I remember, but I remember you being so like Obviously, 0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.799 I haven't even been on stage for very long. This 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:09.719 was maybe even only my third, maybe my fourth episode ever. Um, 0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.040 but you were so easy to be around. We had 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.800 such a good time. And then as we know, to 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.799 Panga and Eric were practically never we never really had 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:20.880 scenes were reinteracted like that episode is one of my 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:23.840 favorites for that reason, So yes, I remember that episode. 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.279 Is hard to pin down because we have favorites for 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.839 so many different reasons. And it will change. I think 0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:31.280 writer's right when we watch it will change for exactly 0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:33.080 that reason, like oh that one was special to me 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:34.960 or this one, and then yeah, they will get into 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.480 the whole thing because they then went weird with with 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.400 Eric and to Pango where then it was like we 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:42.360 ended up in bed together at one point, and do 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.080 you remember do you remember this where I'm like, I 0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.160 need a roommate, so you'd get it, you like get 0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.160 ready for bed and you slide into bed and then 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:51.080 I'm over there. I'm in bed like hey, roomy because 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.279 that's not creepy at all. I'm just be with you. 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:55.680 Oh my gosh. Yeah, they would. They did stuff like 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:58.280 that too, where it was just like, oh, that's really weird. 0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.640 I'm just gonna get in bed with my brother's girlfriend, 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.600 like really bizarre stuff. So yeah, that was will unpack 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.680 all as we keep saying, we'll unpack all this as 0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:10.359 we go, we'll unpack that for sure. Um. Any other 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:17.120 frequently asked questions we want to touch on here? Phoene call? Yes, 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:23.040 why don't you do the Phoene call anyway? Is the question? Um, 0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.560 why don't you do? There's a number of reasons I 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.080 don't do the Phoene call. Um, there there really are, 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:34.080 and one of them is so, if I'm being totally honest, 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.279 I was upset with the way the Phoene call was 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.719 taken from me, which is the absolute truth. So when 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:42.920 we start, when they started Girl Meets World, Michael without 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.160 and again I'm not trying to bash Michael in any way, 0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:48.680 shape or form, but without any apologized to me for this, frankly, Um, 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.360 without calling me, without letting me know, without doing anything. 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.160 He just popped in a tape of the Phoene Call 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.560 to the to Rowan and Sabrina and said, you guys 0:50:57.560 --> 0:50:59.480 are now doing this. You're both doing this when you 0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:03.480 meet Mr Phoenie. Uh. Other than it's saying Phoenie with 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:05.959 an exclamation point in the script, the Phoenie call was mine, 0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.400 like I created that out of whole cloth. It was 0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:11.839 just I just made that my own. So I thought 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.919 without even being asked to then take it and give 0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:19.160 it away. Um, I didn't think was very cool. Uh 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.880 So Michael apologized to me. He's like, you're right, that 0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:23.320 was And I told him that. I was like, that's 0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.200 you know, that wasn't cool. He's like, I didn't even 0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:27.640 he he said, look, I honestly didn't even think about 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:31.040 it that way. You're right I should have. Let's do 0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.200 some kind of passing of the torch. And I went 0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:35.880 in front of the audience at Girl Meets World, I 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:37.600 did it one more time and I said I passed 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:39.200 it on to the girls. And I got that because 0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:42.360 and this is a true story, I was doing a 0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:46.400 cartoon called ThunderCats, which was one of my favorite cartoons 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.359 ever growing up, and I got a chance to play 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:52.440 lion O and the original lion O actor Larry Kenny, 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:54.759 played my dad on the show. And he was at 0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:57.160 a convention and he's he actually sent me the clip 0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.399 and I thought this was really cool where somebody said, 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:03.200 can you do the famous lion lion ThunderCats hoe and 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.120 he said, I will do it one more time for you. 0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:07.560 But then it's Wills and I am officially packed passing 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:09.439 the torch and I thought that was cool. He says 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.000 he's never done it since. He knows he has, but 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:13.640 he says he's never done it since. Um so I 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:15.680 took that coupled with kind of like you know, that 0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:17.759 was mine and you gave it away, And I liked 0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.480 this passing the torch thing, and I have haven't done 0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.480 it since. It's also interesting. I mean, I know you've 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.600 talked about to me, you've talked, you've expressed this before. 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:29.200 You didn't even realize you had a catchphrase. It was 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:30.920 it was It was one of those funny bits. We 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:32.440 did a lot of bits on the show. Like you 0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:36.120 remember in the first season, Ben kept saying like I'm 0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:40.200 super boy or something. You did that, and they like 0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.200 they try these things out and give us like catch 0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:47.440 phrases or repetitive jokes, and like the Phoene Call was 0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.719 just one of the many, like your your character has 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.360 so many. So it's really only in retrospect that it 0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.520 became like a defining characteristic of the show. Yeah, it 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:59.719 also wasn't even named the Phoene Call until the last episode. 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:03.080 The very last episode, Eric says to to Phoenie, you know, 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:05.719 come on, be honest, you love the Phoene call. You're 0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:07.320 gonna miss the Phoene call. That's the first time that 0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:10.160 was ever said. So it wasn't even a It was 0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:12.839 just it would say Mr Feenie, and I would then 0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:14.520 make it nine minutes long. I mean that was all 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:17.680 that it was. It wasn't like the Phoene call. Um. So, yeah, 0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.160 I had no idea that I had. I had my own. 0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:23.560 Did I do that? I didn't know that. It's like 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:27.200 I didn't. I didn't know that. So yeah, so interesting. 0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:30.839 That's that. That's the story behind the Phoenie call. Are 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:34.040 there any other what are the frequently asked question? Because 0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:36.440 we do we always get the same frequently asked kind 0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.839 And I'll be honest, I had a document with them 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.080 written down, and I don't know where the document is. 0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:44.040 So that's a frequently asked question for Danielle is where 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:47.359 did you put that? Where? I got him? I got him, 0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.239 I got him? Are you still friends? I think that 0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:52.520 that much is obvious. You don't even need to answer that. 0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:56.600 Oh did you actually cut your hair? O? Good one. 0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:00.520 I sure did, with real scissors and everything. We can't 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.600 talk to me. We'll talk about that when that episode 0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:05.399 comes around. Um, that's another week that I do have 0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:09.800 very um strong memories, mostly of people yelling off stage 0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.840 on the night it was going to happen. Um. It 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:16.759 was such a the amount of stress. Again, the importance 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:20.520 placed on hair in this show is weird, um, but 0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:24.080 there was so much stress around the cutting of the 0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.640 hair because you only get really one good take at it. 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:30.280 You get one good this before, and once that's cut, 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.520 you can't go back to Danielle has super long hair, 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:37.040 certainly not quick um. And it was Mike. I remember 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.879 the negotiation with Michael show me where, show me where 0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:42.080 You're getting no because he did not want me to 0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.799 cut my hair short. And you also have to This 0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:46.279 was the first time you would ever cut your hair 0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:50.760 in life. In life, I had I had a trim 0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:53.200 when I was three years old because from the time 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:57.680 I was too my hair reached my butt. And when 0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.279 I turned three, I had these little ringlet at the 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.720 bottom of my hair, and my mom decided I needed 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.080 a trim and she basically just cut the ringlets off 0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.920 and that was the last time I ever cut my hair. 0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:12.680 So I was either fifteen or sixteen years old. Other 0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:14.880 than little trims, you know, I would get little little 0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:16.840 like I'm talking half an inch off the bottom of 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.960 my hair. Otherwise I had that super long hair my 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:23.480 entire life. And yes, I got to be fifteen, sixteen 0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:26.319 years old. I think I was fifteen, and I just 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:30.040 wanted to cut my hair. And I asked Michael over 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.000 a summer break, so our again, our schedule, we usually 0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:36.680 started our seasons in August and then we would shoot 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:39.000 for three weeks, take a week off, shoot for three weeks, 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:40.799 take a week off, and then during holidays we get 0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:44.479 two weeks off and we would shoot then straight until May, 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.360 and then May would start our summer break and we 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:50.520 would go on summer break from middle of May until August. 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:53.760 And somewhere in that summer I called Michael and said, 0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:56.120 you know, I want to cut my hair. I guess 0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:58.080 I just knew that. I wasn't that I couldn't just 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.400 cut it, but like it was like in my can tracked. 0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.839 I don't know, I I knew better than to just 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:04.200 do it. And I said, I want to cut my hair. 0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:06.480 Are you okay with that? And he said no, absolutely not, 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.239 no oh no, no, no, no no, And then it 0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.439 was like, please, I've never cut it. I'm really tight 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:13.719 hot and I've never done it. I just I want 0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:15.719 something new, And he said okay, but then you have 0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:17.320 to let me, let me at least write an episode 0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:18.759 about it. And I said okay. So I had to 0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:22.200 wait until the episode came around. Um, so yes, I 0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:24.359 really did cut my hair. Uh, and I can't wait 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.879 to talk about it when that episode gets around. That's 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:28.799 that's going to be really fun. You just said something 0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.640 really interesting because it just had me flashback on something 0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:36.680 to you instantly snapped to this place of I can't 0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:41.640 do anything with my body or looks without permission, asking permission, 0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:45.520 even when it was never really specifically said to. But 0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:48.440 I remember asking if I could get a tattoo, asking 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:50.879 if I could cut my hair, asking if I It's like, 0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:54.920 we just knew we're not allowed to do any of 0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.080 this with it. Writer, weren't Wasn't there something where you 0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:00.120 weren't allowed to roller blade? After a while, No, I 0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:05.239 I went bungee jumping and skydiving. Remember the director that 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.520 we've just been like, don't, don't, don't, don't tell the producers, 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.640 don't don't tell them you're doing this stuff. I did 0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:12.160 that with helicopter lessons, where you can't we can't let 0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:13.759 you fly, And I was like, I don't think they 0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:15.920 ever told me to not rollerblade, but that makes such 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.400 a great ninth story that maybe the story I heard 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.800 frequently asked questions. The story I heard was that you 0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:25.920 were rollerblading at uh the oak Woid where we all lived, 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:29.560 and somebody broke their leg. It wasn't you, but somebody 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.920 broke their leg. Your mom my mom broke because that 0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:34.200 was the four boy meats world. That was because I 0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:35.400 was gonna say, I thought then the story I heard 0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:37.800 as they heard about that, they were like, no more rollerblading, 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.000 Like that's it, You're done. Wait did you both live 0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:42.120 at Oakwood when you first when the show first season 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:43.920 of the show, we both lived at Oakwood's. I was 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:48.400 in the Z building and I was okay, then that 0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:50.680 was the year I was in qu Okay because we 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:53.760 were pretty far away if I remember the buildings that Okay, 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:55.640 So just for everybody in the oak Wod apartments of 0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:59.200 these legendary month to month furnished apartments that all actors, 0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.120 especially child actors, would live in because you can move 0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:04.320 and their families you can move in for one month 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:06.480 at a time, and it would have all the furniture, 0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:08.760 and so everybody would come for pilot season or to 0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:12.320 make a movie or to do one show, and so yeah, 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:14.240 so we would live there with our you know, you 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:16.560 live with your roommate, Spencer. I lived with my brother 0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:18.439 who was on a TV show at the same time 0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:19.800 that we were doing Boy Met the World. He was 0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.000 on The Mommy's We both had TV shows going at 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.320 the same starting at the same time, and so my 0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:26.400 mom would be shuttling us from both sets. But we 0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:28.320 all lived at the oak Woods, which is this just 0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:32.080 this hilly apartment complex in Burbank and it's all paved, 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:35.800 so it was rollerblading heaven. I mean it was also 0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:37.520 like summer camp for me, Like we would go for 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:40.480 pilot season and you need all these child actors who 0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:42.560 would be coming from all over the country, and you'd 0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:44.360 all just hang out at the pool and the hot 0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:48.360 blade together. We'll have so many oak with child child 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:51.280 actors and divorced men. That's the people that lived at 0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.040 the oak Wand for the record, I did not live 0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:57.560 at the oak Wood because I'm a native Native Southern Californian, 0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:01.080 So I lived with my family. We lived in calabasas 0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:03.880 Um I just because Yeah, you kept saying we all 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:05.120 lived there, and I was like, Oh, they're going to 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:09.360 think we all went the same complex. I have one 0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:11.320 more frequently asked question which I think would be a 0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:12.760 good one to go out on, and we have to 0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.120 keep it kind of brief because we go, but what 0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:23.080 are you guys doing now? A podcast? That's a real question, John, 0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:24.960 I know this is the where are they now questioned? 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:28.920 A little bio of we're what we've been up to? 0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:32.240 Okay from Since two thousand seventeen, I have been a 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:36.880 full time sitcom TV director UM, which is just a 0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:39.840 continuation of what we're talking about here. It's something that 0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:41.840 I didn't know I ever wanted to do. I got 0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:43.600 the opportunity to do it for the first time on 0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.320 Girl Mead's World, Uh, fell in love with it and 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.800 have been very fortunate to be able to make a 0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:51.040 career of it. UM. So I've been doing that full time. 0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:53.880 I also my husband Jensen and I have a production company. 0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:57.080 We have a couple of shows UM in early stages 0:59:57.080 --> 0:59:59.840 of production. We have a pilot out and a few 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:02.560 their things UM. And then I also have a hair 1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:05.040 care company, which I am extremely proud of. And it 1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:07.160 is a very small team. There are four of us 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:11.800 total in the entire company, from development to being delivered 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:15.040 on your doorstep. We're involved in every single aspect of it. UM. 1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.640 It's called Be Free by Daniel Fishel and uh. I 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:19.040 love it and I'm super proud of it. And then 1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:21.520 I also have two children, which, although that is a 1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:27.880 personal life thing, it's also a job. Yeah you go, writer, Yeah, 1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:30.840 I am also a father. Right now, I am full 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:33.120 time solo parenting well of my wife, who is an 1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:37.360 actor's producer, director writer, is off producing a feature film 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:40.120 in New York at the moment, so this I am 1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:44.680 on a month. I'm about eight weeks into solo parenting 1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:46.960 while she's gone. So my main job right now is 1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:49.520 raising in our seven year old and making sure, you know, 1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:52.360 he gets the school and his shoelaces are tied, which 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:55.120 is lovely and awesome. I also run a I do 1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:57.520 in my own podcast, which is called Literary Disco. I 1:00:57.520 --> 1:00:59.320 am a huge book nerd, which you guys will remember 1:00:59.320 --> 1:01:02.680 from way back. I always have been so literary discos. 1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:04.800 So I've been doing that for like ten years, podcasting 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:07.360 about books UM. And we're relaunching a new season of 1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:10.880 that I'm by. My main job is writer, writer, director. 1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:13.240 I directed a lot of The Girl Meets World episodes 1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:15.680 and really loved it. I've made a bunch of short 1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:18.440 films and but mostly I've made a living for the 1:01:18.560 --> 1:01:21.720 last twelve years as a screenwriter. Uh you know. And 1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:23.760 of course the life of a screenwriter is you write 1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:26.560 movies and then they never actually get made. Um. But 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:29.080 I've been paid and I've been doing you know, I've 1:01:29.160 --> 1:01:31.880 I've enjoyed it. But I'm ready to write and direct 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:35.000 an actual movie movie on my own, a feature. I 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:38.520 love it, um. I you know. I stopped acting probably 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:40.520 ten years ago, and it was the best decision I 1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:42.960 ever made. As much as I love actors and I 1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:46.360 love the industry, I really like being within it, but 1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:48.760 on the other side of the camera. So directing is 1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:51.360 my dream job. It's a very hard job to get. 1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:54.800 So writing is what I do all the time. Are 1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:58.760 you writing anything with anyone you know? Right now? Actually, 1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:01.040 one of my like one of my many projects is 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:04.840 with the incredibly talented wilfordl We're ready to feature script 1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:08.280 right now. Um yeah, And it's probably the best thing 1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:11.000 I'm working on right now. I'm really excited about it. Um. Yeah, 1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:14.680 we're very excited. UM. I left the industry at the 1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:16.480 on camera side of the industry as well due to 1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:19.240 an anxiety disorder, which I've talked about a lot of times. 1:02:19.280 --> 1:02:22.080 I will be getting back on camera eventually. I'm slowly 1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:26.960 but surely getting there. But my love and passion since 1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:32.240 I was nineteen twenty years old has been voiceover voiceover industry. UM. 1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:35.800 I've written for a number of the animated series that 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:38.080 I do, and it is still the joy of my 1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:41.320 life to be a voiceover actor. I have a movie 1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:44.440 that just came out last week called DC Superhero Girls 1:02:44.440 --> 1:02:48.040 and Teen Titans Mayhem in the Multiverse. I have two 1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:50.040 new series coming out which I'm not allowed to talk 1:02:50.080 --> 1:02:52.320 about right as of yet, but they're very very cool. 1:02:52.760 --> 1:02:56.800 And I also do a podcast about the entertainment industry 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:59.720 about the voiceover industry called I Hear Voices with Christy Carlson, 1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:01.680 Roma Know who. I did a show called Kim Possible 1:03:01.720 --> 1:03:04.640 with and Uh. We do a show where not only 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:07.120 do we interview all of the best voiceover actors in 1:03:07.240 --> 1:03:10.400 the world, but amateur voiceover actors get to come on 1:03:10.520 --> 1:03:14.040 and actually do a voiceover session. With those voiceover actors, 1:03:14.040 --> 1:03:15.720 and then we're gonna take all that stuff and animated, 1:03:15.800 --> 1:03:17.600 so people get to be in their own cartoon. It 1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:20.120 is very fun. It's called I hear voices. Check it out. 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:22.280 But that has been my life. And then I do 1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:25.320 a bunch of conventions, hopefully a lot of them. With 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:28.640 these people here who I love like family. We do 1:03:28.640 --> 1:03:31.360 do something together which is pretty amazing. And I get 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:33.960 to travel the world with my wife and uh just 1:03:34.000 --> 1:03:37.640 meet fans and it's absolutely wonderful. So that's what I've 1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:39.960 been doing. I have one final question for all of us, 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:44.080 what is the what's the best thing you can hope 1:03:44.080 --> 1:03:47.040 for coming out of this podcast and rewatching Boy meets 1:03:47.080 --> 1:03:51.200 World and what is the thing you're the most nervous 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:54.400 or scared of? Like high point, low point? What's the 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:57.320 best and worst of what we're about to and indulge 1:03:57.360 --> 1:04:02.040 ourselves in. Wow, good question. Do you have anything off 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:04.120 the top of your head? Writer? I don't know, I mean, 1:04:04.160 --> 1:04:06.440 I have you know. I was I was at a 1:04:06.440 --> 1:04:09.760 wedding like a couple of weeks ago, three weeks ago 1:04:10.040 --> 1:04:13.440 as a friend's wedding, and um, I met an actress 1:04:13.720 --> 1:04:16.800 comedian who was there you know, it was one of 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:18.720 those three day weddings. So this is like day three 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:21.720 when we were actually at the wedding and sitting down 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:25.840 and she was like, hey, you know I grew up 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:30.040 on on your show. Um, and you know you're really cool, 1:04:30.320 --> 1:04:33.360 like you seem like really healthy and like really cool. 1:04:33.360 --> 1:04:36.200 What how do you relate to that show now? Like 1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:38.200 what do you what do you? How do you feel 1:04:38.200 --> 1:04:41.440 about it? And it was like the most for the 1:04:41.480 --> 1:04:45.280 first time, I was like I have such a long answer. Uh. 1:04:45.320 --> 1:04:47.160 And you know, I say for the first time because 1:04:47.200 --> 1:04:49.800 I think that for every other stage in my life 1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:52.400 I had really pat easy answers. You know, it was 1:04:52.920 --> 1:04:54.800 I'm so lucky to be on the TV show, or 1:04:54.880 --> 1:04:56.680 then it was like, oh no, I'm just a student 1:04:56.680 --> 1:04:58.960 now I don't want to talk about that, or and 1:04:59.240 --> 1:05:01.360 you know, I just felt such a mature question like 1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:05.080 here I am early forties with another actor in their 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:08.080 forties asking me a very honest question like what was that? 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:10.880 And and I realized I could talk for probably an 1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:13.000 hour and a half if I let myself. And so 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:15.800 I think that that's what this show is for me personally, 1:05:15.840 --> 1:05:17.960 like is trying to come to terms with the with 1:05:18.400 --> 1:05:20.280 what Boy Meets World means because it had such a 1:05:20.360 --> 1:05:23.400 cultural impact outside of my control. When you're a kid actor, 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:24.960 like we were saying about our hair and what not, 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:27.640 so many things are outside of your control, and as 1:05:27.720 --> 1:05:30.640 positive as that can be, because like, hey, I made 1:05:30.760 --> 1:05:32.760 enough money to be able to send myself through college, 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:35.720 you know, like my parents didn't have to pay for that. Um, 1:05:36.280 --> 1:05:38.720 I've been able to have this great life as access 1:05:38.800 --> 1:05:41.400 point to the writing career that I now have. So 1:05:41.440 --> 1:05:43.560 there's so many positive things that came from Boy Meets World. 1:05:43.560 --> 1:05:45.600 There's also a lot of negative memories I have of 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:47.560 of of how it affected my life and and for 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:50.160 a long time I wanted to be anything but Seawan 1:05:50.240 --> 1:05:52.320 Hunter from Boy Meets World. I spent most of my 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:54.400 twenties running away from it. And now I'm at a 1:05:54.400 --> 1:05:57.080 place where I think I can kind of be mature 1:05:57.200 --> 1:05:59.840 enough to see see it from both sides and to 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.080 talk that out. So I don't have an easy answer, 1:06:02.120 --> 1:06:03.520 but I think that that's why we should do this 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:05.560 podcast is because I think it's it's a it's a 1:06:05.640 --> 1:06:10.800 really complicated question and has a really complicated answer. Yeah, 1:06:10.880 --> 1:06:13.080 I don't. I think that's that's kind of where I 1:06:13.080 --> 1:06:15.120 would go. I mean, the the high point for me 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:19.000 is doing it with both of you. Um, the being 1:06:19.040 --> 1:06:22.640 able to do something that Again, I watched the first 1:06:22.680 --> 1:06:26.760 episode and I genuinely had a huge spike of anxiety 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:29.560 pressing play before I hit the first episode of the show. 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:32.200 And one of the things that helps me and always 1:06:32.240 --> 1:06:34.480 has helped me, is being around people that I love 1:06:34.520 --> 1:06:36.760 and I trust and knowing that I'm with the both 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:38.960 of you and going on this journey where we can 1:06:39.000 --> 1:06:41.000 talk about all this stuff together and you're talking about 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:44.360 it with people that went through the same thing. You know, 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:47.040 you're you're you're in the trenches together, and while our 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:50.240 experiences might have differed, we can come at it from 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:52.480 the same place, which is something that I'm very much 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:56.800 looking forward to. What scares me is pulling back the 1:06:56.840 --> 1:06:59.480 curtain to realize that the great and powerful Laws is 1:06:59.560 --> 1:07:01.920 just a man. Uh. That's what scares me is that 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:04.240 these memories that I have that are so wonderful for me, 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:07.560 uh and so incredible that really, when I do look 1:07:07.600 --> 1:07:09.760 at them as an adult, I might look back and 1:07:10.080 --> 1:07:13.040 maybe they're not as great as I remember them being. Um, 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:15.600 which again I don't know Frankly and I and there 1:07:15.600 --> 1:07:18.920 there's it's gonna bring up a lot of a lot 1:07:18.960 --> 1:07:21.880 of different emotions all the way through, and their emotions 1:07:21.920 --> 1:07:23.760 that I want to We keep using the word unpacked, 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:25.480 that I want to unpack. I'm glad I'm doing it 1:07:25.520 --> 1:07:27.360 with the both of you. But that's what scares me 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:31.600 the most is I I have maybe put the show 1:07:32.000 --> 1:07:34.160 and my experiences on the show on a little bit 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:36.240 of a pedestal, and I'm making sure that the pedestal 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:38.440 is marble and not feather. And when I look back, 1:07:40.040 --> 1:07:42.640 I'm hoping it's as I remember. And that's I think 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:45.560 what scares me the most is is, you know, again 1:07:45.640 --> 1:07:48.480 getting having some of the guest cast come back on, 1:07:48.600 --> 1:07:50.680 and having other people we worked with come back on 1:07:50.760 --> 1:07:54.200 and maybe their experiences weren't that great and and it's 1:07:54.840 --> 1:07:57.440 those kind of things that's gonna make me re look 1:07:57.560 --> 1:08:00.960 at my own past from a different perspective of and 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:05.360 I think I need to Frankly, I mean, nobody's life 1:08:05.360 --> 1:08:08.200 is perfect. I don't care how amazing you think your 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:10.640 experience was. It was still just an experience that had 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:13.320 highs and lows. And Uh, it's going to be interesting 1:08:13.360 --> 1:08:16.000 to go back. So that's again a long winded, a 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:18.360 long winded answer that got us nowhere, But that's exactly 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:21.519 kind of how I feel. It's those are those exactly 1:08:21.520 --> 1:08:24.080 why I asked I am. I am very much looking 1:08:24.120 --> 1:08:26.160 forward to going through this with you guys. It says 1:08:26.200 --> 1:08:28.920 it is, for lack of the better term, it's it's 1:08:28.920 --> 1:08:31.800 a safe space. It feels safe to go through this 1:08:31.880 --> 1:08:34.600 with you guys. Um, I'm really looking forward to it. 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:37.679 I'm hoping, like I said, that it will bring back 1:08:37.720 --> 1:08:40.679 some memories for me, because I do have very fond 1:08:40.680 --> 1:08:43.240 memories of most of the time on Boy Meets World, 1:08:43.479 --> 1:08:45.719 and I'd like to have more of them. Um, every 1:08:45.720 --> 1:08:47.760 time you guys remind me of stuff or say things 1:08:47.800 --> 1:08:49.960 and I'm like, no, I don't remember that, I start 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:51.920 to like, I think, and I think and I think. 1:08:51.920 --> 1:08:55.000 Like when writer mentioned some of the small audience on Wednesdays, 1:08:55.000 --> 1:08:57.280 I was like, I do kind of remember that. Towards 1:08:57.320 --> 1:09:00.920 the end, like, oh, that's interesting. So I'm excited to 1:09:00.920 --> 1:09:02.920 say what it brings up. Like I said, I'm excited 1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:06.280 for the nostalgia dive. I will be perfectly honest and 1:09:06.320 --> 1:09:08.200 say that my the thing that makes me the most 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:13.600 nervous is I know how beloved this show is to 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:18.080 so many people, and we meet them, We meet fans 1:09:18.080 --> 1:09:20.719 at cons and they tell us these very personal stories 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:22.920 about what the show meant, and that always means so 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:25.280 much to us. We walk away from those conventions and 1:09:25.320 --> 1:09:27.920 we say, I am so glad I met everybody that 1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:30.519 I met this weekend and I heard their stories. And 1:09:31.040 --> 1:09:33.799 I want to watch the show and be very honest 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:37.400 in the podcast about the feelings it brings up for me, 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:41.160 the thoughts I have about a scene or a storyline 1:09:41.400 --> 1:09:44.839 or the acting, whether it's my own or you know whatever. 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:46.880 I want to be able to be very honest about it. 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:50.600 And my what makes me the most nervous is possibly 1:09:50.760 --> 1:09:54.559 ruining something that some maybe even just one memory for 1:09:54.640 --> 1:09:57.599 somebody that they that they love. Um and so that 1:09:57.640 --> 1:09:59.559 makes me nervous. But I'm gonna be I'm gonna just 1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:01.400 have to be very honest about how I feel, and 1:10:01.439 --> 1:10:05.160 hopefully it's it's mostly you know, rosie and fun and wonderful, 1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:07.320 the way it is in my memory. But uh I, 1:10:07.560 --> 1:10:09.559 I just want us to be as honest as possible 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:11.360 as we go through this, because I think that's gonna 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:14.439 be what's best for everyone. Yeah, I think so too. 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:15.920 That's good. That was a great answer. I want to 1:10:15.920 --> 1:10:24.320 take that one. So next week we're jumping in. We 1:10:24.400 --> 1:10:29.160 are rewatching the pilot, starting in with episode number one 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:33.559 oh one. The pilot it was called um and So yeah, 1:10:33.600 --> 1:10:36.080 next week, big, big week. I can't wait to jump 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:40.599 in and uh, listen, writer, I think our first week 1:10:40.680 --> 1:10:43.759 since this podcast was your idea. You have the honors 1:10:43.760 --> 1:10:48.840 of our tagline, we love you all. 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