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Speaker 1: Welcome to the very first ever Pod Meets World. I

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Speaker 1: am Daniel fishal Aka to Pango Lawrence and then eventually

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Speaker 1: to Pango Lawrence Matthews. H and I am joined this

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Speaker 1: week and all the time by jump in this is

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Speaker 1: right or Strong? I played Sean Patrick Hunter. Is it

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Speaker 1: was my middle name? Patrick? Did that's just come to

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Speaker 1: you out of nowhere? Yeah? Well, because you threw in

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Speaker 1: your full name. I didn't realize. Did to Panga actually

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Speaker 1: change her name to Matthews? That officially I think she

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Speaker 1: was to Pango Lawrence Matthews. Interesting, I think I think

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Speaker 1: my middle name ended up being Patrick. And I definitely

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Speaker 1: remember when they introduced the last name Hunter. It was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, six episodes in. I was like, oh cool,

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Speaker 1: I gotta cool. I got a cool last name now

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Speaker 1: I just had Okay, sorry, I had a memory that

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Speaker 1: came to me because of what you said. But we're

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Speaker 1: getting ahead of ourselves. This is just the way it's

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Speaker 1: gonna go. Guys, Oh is it my turn? I'm sorry?

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Speaker 1: And I am will Fredell. I played Eric Neil Matthews.

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Speaker 1: I want to say and uh, And then at some

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Speaker 1: point he just starts calling himself Kyle. So there was

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Speaker 1: that too. Yeah, Eric. Eric's name changed with the with

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Speaker 1: the times, but yes, it is the three of us together,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was it was Neil at one point.

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Speaker 1: I think again they threw in names for us. Eventually

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Speaker 1: we go like, oh that's our name. Now. Well, the

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Speaker 1: continuity in the nineties was physically non existing. No, not great.

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Speaker 1: We we will definitely touch on that in this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Um which this is a perfect time to tell you

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Speaker 1: exactly what this podcast is. UM So a little history.

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Speaker 1: I guess writer Will and I are very close friends.

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Speaker 1: Um Will actually live so close to me I could

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Speaker 1: run to his house and be on his zoom in

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Speaker 1: about five minutes. If that seriously, I mean, if I

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Speaker 1: But um and so we all have varying histories, I

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Speaker 1: guess you would say with boy Meat's World and whether

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Speaker 1: or not any of us have seen them. I know

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Speaker 1: for myself I probably saw almost all, if not all,

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Speaker 1: of the episodes when they aired in the nineties. Because

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Speaker 1: I was twelve years old. It was my first big

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Speaker 1: major role. I was super excited to watch the show

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Speaker 1: that we had filmed probably four or five months before,

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Speaker 1: sitting around Friday Night with my family. We watched the

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Speaker 1: I probably wasn't like on Friday Night necessarily always watching them.

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Speaker 1: But I think I've seen almost all of them at

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Speaker 1: and then since the nineties, I have only seen a

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Speaker 1: handful of episodes a handful of times since then. Um,

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Speaker 1: I have very few memories of what the episodes are about.

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Speaker 1: I actually think I have very few memories of even

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Speaker 1: to see what it's like, both the cringe and the not. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do think I watched most of the first season,

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Speaker 1: So I basically ran away from boy Meat's World all

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but mostly for me, this is about UM.

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Speaker 1: we got better, I feel like we did start memorizing

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00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: it almost immediately, like your brain clicked into this zone.

430
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 1: But for the most part we'd be on stage and

431
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: and and it would just be the actors, the director,

432
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: a script supervisor. Who else would be there, like maybe props,

433
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 1: the teacher, A very small group of us would be

434
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: going through the scenes and putting it on its feet.

435
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: And we would do that the first day, get new

436
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: scripts that night. It was a very light rehearsal because

437
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 1: Mike Will said there was almost always a full script

438
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: rewrite immediately after table read, and so they were rewriting

439
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: on Friday, which lets the director and the actors know,

440
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: don't memorize too much of this, don't put it on

441
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: its feet too much, because whole things may change. Sets

442
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: may you may not be no longer in the classroom,

443
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 1: You're going to be in the living room, like a

444
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: lot of things can change. So you do like a

445
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: really fast light rehearsal on Friday, and then you come

446
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: in ready to go on Monday for a full Monday

447
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: rehearsal and then run through that night for the producers

448
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: and writers. The network run through is not until the

449
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: next day. Now I didn't even know what to run through.

450
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: Was nobody. Nobody prepared me for any of this. So

451
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: when they're like, hey, are you ready for the run through?

452
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: I had no idea what that meant. So what is

453
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: a run through? Will explain that. So a run through

454
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: is you do the entire show from beginning to end.

455
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: You're holding the scripts because you don't you haven't memorized

456
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: the lines by this point. Costumes, nomes, no props, no cameras.

457
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: You're just running it through like a play, from beginning

458
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: to end. There's a bank of director's chairs set up

459
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: in front of whatever. You know, say you're in the

460
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: classroom scene, there's a bank of director's chairs. All the

461
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: producers and directors sit there, which is basically where the

462
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: fourth wall should be, because everything camera, where the cameras

463
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: would be, there's just a bank of chairs. And then

464
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: we run, we go through it, and we'd blinds and

465
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: we'd miss jokes and we you know, then you literally

466
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: you would get up and walk to the next area

467
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 1: where there be more chairs set up, and you'd continue

468
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: the show and you'd run it from beginning to end. Uh.

469
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: And I did not know that was happening. And then

470
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: I also did not know that was followed, especially on

471
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: a Michael Jacobs set, by the note session, the notes.

472
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: Someone talk about the note session please, because I'm getting

473
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: adjective just thinking. So typically after a run through the

474
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: everybody gathers in one of the sets. Everyone sits down,

475
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: all the actors and one side, and all the writers

476
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: on the other side, and the executive producer and or

477
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: the director, but mostly the executive producer gives feedback on

478
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: what just happened on the run through. And this feedback session,

479
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: I think on most shows probably is like twenty minutes,

480
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: which is like, hey, this joke didn't work, and they

481
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: give notes to the actors if they have any like hey,

482
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: could you try it this way? Try it that way.

483
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: With Michael Jacobs, who was the creator of Boymate's World, um,

484
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: he's kind of he was really into the notes sessions.

485
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: We would have one to two hour long notes sessions

486
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: and he would open up a script and say, all right,

487
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: page one line one, page one line one, page one

488
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: line one and uh the memory I can hear his

489
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: pages turning, snap snap snap. Yeah. Michael took notes sessions

490
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: to a performance art. It was really just about him

491
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: giving you know. He would he would most often talk

492
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: to the actors. He wouldn't talk so much about the

493
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: script at that stage. As the show went on, it

494
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: became more of an open process, I feel like where

495
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: he would admit, like, oh, we gotta fix this whole

496
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: scene or this whole thing. But for the most part

497
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: it was a chance for him to try and explain

498
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: to us, like what they were aiming for and where

499
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: we missed the markets actors or what was going wrong, um,

500
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: And and then they would go off after the two

501
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: hour notes session. The writers would then end up writing

502
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: all night, like you know, on our show as opposed

503
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: to other shows, I think they would go into like

504
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: two in the morning that night rewriting, and then we'd

505
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: get a new script the next morning with some changes, um,

506
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: and then do it all over again this time and

507
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: the core p a farrier person would drop off the

508
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: scripts at whatever time they finished writing them, so that

509
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: we had them for the drive to work the next morning.

510
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: We didn't have to wait till we have to say

511
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: so much paper. But also like like a four am

512
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: do covered script would just be on the porch sometimes

513
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: because the sprinklers had gone on in the morning or

514
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: whatever and it had just been delivered and there are

515
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: eleven cast members that lived all over Los Angeles. It's

516
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: not like Danielle and I right now where we live

517
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: thirty seconds from each other. It was somebody driving all

518
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: over l A. And apparently they were you know, it

519
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: wasn't just for us. It was the thing that we

520
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: didn't realize is that every change they make effects wardrobe,

521
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: every change they make effects set to, every depiction head

522
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: gets a script. Everybody got a script. So they were

523
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: delivering arguably fifty seventy five scripts a night. Um, you know,

524
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: all over Los Angeles at three o'clock in the morning.

525
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: These poor p a s for no money and I

526
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: mean just to be part of the industry, and they're

527
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: the unsung heroes of the show. But it was, it

528
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: was the whole experience was was insane. And then and

529
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: then we get to so that was Monday, and that

530
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: was studio run. That was we should also insert. Meanwhile,

531
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: for those of us children who were in school, we

532
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: have to do by California state law, three hours of

533
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: school a day. So what sounds like nothing, no, but

534
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: it's actually a lot when you're one on one with

535
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: a teacher. In our case, we had we had two teachers.

536
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: Ultimately the show, and we first started we only had one,

537
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: but ultimately we ended up having two teachers who they

538
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: are basically our personal tutors because all of us are

539
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: in different grades. Ben and I was one grade older

540
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: than Ben, and Danielle you were even a grade younger

541
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: than Ben. I think when you were in high school.

542
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: I was a senior and enior high so we so

543
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: you had two teachers having to navigate completely different subject

544
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: matters um and we would get all of our work

545
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: from our school ahead of time, and so we'd be

546
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: showing up with our own textbooks, our own subjects, our

547
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: own set of requirements, and these teachers would spend you know,

548
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: three to four hours a day with us being like

549
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: all right, right, or you're working on your English paper

550
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: right now, go ahead, that's what you're doing for the

551
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: next twenty minutes. Then you have Latin, and then they'd

552
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: be doing Latin declensions with Ben and like, you know,

553
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: it's just our classroom became, you know, this whole other

554
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: level of work that we were doing. So even when

555
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, normally on a show you would get a

556
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: break and be able to sit in your dressing your room,

557
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know the break is usually then when

558
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: you're not in the scene, so the scene now doesn't

559
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: involve Sean or doesn't involve air, if it doesn't involve

560
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: to Pega, you would normally then go get a break.

561
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: And for us, that's where we would go, get to bank,

562
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty minutes of school, go do twenty or

563
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of school. It wasn't ever three hours of

564
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: school consecutively. It was twenty minutes here, forty minutes there,

565
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: possibly an hour if you were so lucky. Um, and

566
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: so we'd run back to our classroom and uh school

567
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: as we can pass the spic craft craft service tables

568
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: have good How many Twizzlers are there? Yea? There so much,

569
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: so much food and nothing to get. But so much

570
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: of our social life did revolve around the school classroom,

571
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: you know, which is interesting because I think people always

572
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: imagine us on set hanging out, which we did, but

573
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: when we were on set, we were often working on

574
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: the scene. Are real, downtime are real like getting to

575
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: know each other, hanging out, getting to know each other's parents,

576
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: who were always there. By the way, we always had

577
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: to have our parents, so you you have to imagine

578
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: that there's a you know, for every kid, there's a parent.

579
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: Also on set, there's a studio, there's a studio teacher

580
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: or two, and we would be hanging out. We would

581
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: have the craft service table, which is the table that

582
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: has all the snacks and coffee and tea, and then

583
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: there'd be our classroom, which was a trailer the first season.

584
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: It was just a trailer, had a couch and tables

585
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: and like you know, we our studio teachers would put

586
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: little posters on the wall and try and make it

587
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: look like a classroom. But it never really felt like

588
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: a classroom because I wasn't a cat with the hang

589
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: in there baby, you know, like okay, but that's where

590
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: our social life like really like that's where we really

591
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: got to know each other, right, is like running around

592
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: backstage um, and you know, and the stage itself is

593
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: these huge sound stages like just these big warehouse um.

594
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: And we were on the Disney lot the first year,

595
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: which is which was the biggest stage by the way,

596
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: in their film stage which is which is stage two,

597
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: which is was not broken in half. Most of the

598
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: stages were broken in half and in behalf the sides.

599
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: We were in this cavernous, ridiculous stage where it was like, oh,

600
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: we've got to build a giant pirate ship building on

601
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: stage two. So that home improvement store. Ye. And then

602
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: was thunder ali going that first season, Yes, thunder Alley

603
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: with Andrew Keegan and who else was on that ed

604
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: um uh he passed not to ed Asner. Oh yeah,

605
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: that's right. So there was So there was this weird

606
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: little community too of like our outside of our stage,

607
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 1: there was a there was a wreck room that they

608
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: had set up for all the kids of Disney. Do

609
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: you remember this we where we did him. Yeah. Yeah,

610
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: So we had pe which basically meant we'd go and

611
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: play ping pong or football football. We did play football

612
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: on asphalt by the way, which with the home improvement

613
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: kids all the time, it was it was like oh wait, okay,

614
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: so Jonathan Taylor Thomas is on Leon Nora, so that's

615
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: not a good matchup right, I'm going to hit you

616
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: in the corner. They're trying not to, you know, run

617
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: into the rusty nails on the side of that thing. Wait.

618
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: And then Haley Joel Osmond was on thunder Alley too, right,

619
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: kid though, like he was Yeah, but it was I

620
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: remember you. They brought in Nintendo six was it wasn't

621
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: even sixty four at the time. It was Nintendo whenever.

622
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: The second one was Superintendo, Super Nintendo. And you were

623
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: a street Fighter from your Master street Fighter two street

624
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Fighter to Master and every time oh yeah, oh yeah,

625
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: that's the thing. He became a joke. It was just

626
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: you know what it was. It was wreck. It was

627
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: like R and R, you know, like to let us

628
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: out in the yard. We could do whatever we want

629
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: a cigarettes and we did, but it was you try

630
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: to play writer in in Street Fighter. And one could

631
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: be the most frustrating thing ever still to this day,

632
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: and that was Jim. That was just then go hey,

633
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: I got my exercise in. Then I'd go and smoke

634
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: a cigarette and go back to work. What are you

635
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: smoking at the time, Yes, was smoking king sixteen year old,

636
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: like kidding. By sixteen, I'd already been smoking first. And

637
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: the most fun thing about that is that like none

638
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: of the grown ups like stopped you or like they

639
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: were like, okay, you know it, because now they down

640
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: are you kidding? I? I had just celebrated that, and

641
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling I would need to tell everybody this. On

642
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: the seven of May, I celebrated my eighth year without

643
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: a cigarette. Please quit smoking. It's very horrible for you.

644
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: But by the time I knew it was bad for me,

645
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: I was hooked. So I mean I was. I was

646
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: smoking heavily by fourteen, and I'd already probably started smoking

647
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 1: at eleven. I was going to New York, I was

648
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: already on television. I was, you know, it was the

649
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: thing to do, and then you start doing it because

650
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: it's cool, and then you're addicted to it. And where

651
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: would you smoke at Disney? I remember you smoking it

652
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 1: wrap side right outside the stage. I don't remember that area,

653
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Like I guess. I just didn't hide anything, like my

654
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: pack of cigarettes in my shirt pocket. And Bill Daniels

655
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: every day would walk up to me and he tapped

656
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: the pack of cigarettes and ego right next to your

657
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: heart and walk away and just he would do that,

658
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: or he would do that every day, every single day,

659
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: right next to your heart. And it's like one of

660
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: those things where you're like, come on, I'm sixteen, I

661
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: know the world. I know everything, And you look back

662
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: now and it's like, man, if you just listened, you know,

663
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 1: of course that is the hashtag to yours. So if

664
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: you're you're young and you're smoking or you're thinking thinking

665
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: to smoke, so it's just not worth it. It really

666
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: is not worth it. So yeah, I mean I was

667
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: already I had a much different Like you talk about

668
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: parents on the setting all stuff, I am from a

669
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: very close knit family. It sounds like I'm not, but

670
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm from a very very close knit family. My parents

671
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: just celebrated their fifty wedding anniversary fifty ninth wedding anniversary.

672
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: Were all super close. But my parents are were two

673
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: lawyers in Connecticut. My dad is still a practicing lawyer's

674
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: eighty three years old. My mom ran all three of

675
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: the courts in Connecticut. My dad was also a captain

676
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: the Navy. They're like, if you want to go do

677
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: this you we're not going to stand in your way,

678
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: but we can't give up our lives to come with you.

679
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: So they used to pick me up at school, drop

680
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: me off at the bus in Farming Tea in Connecticut.

681
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: I'd take a three hour bus ride down in New York,

682
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: where my manager would pick me up most of the time.

683
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes he didn't. I was ten or eleven, I'd walk

684
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: the streets in New York go to my audition, grab

685
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: a slice of pizza, come back and go and go

686
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: home and buy eleven or twelve. I lived in the

687
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: city because I was on a show, and then I

688
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: got Boy, Met World, and that was it. My first

689
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: guardian was my oldest brother's fraternity brother, Spencer, who is

690
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: still a good friend of mine, lives right down the street.

691
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: You live in the city with my oldest brother, my

692
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: oldest brother at the time, with Gary. No no no no.

693
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: I live with Gary, my older brother Gary. At the time,

694
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: I was eleven years old, twelve years old doing don't

695
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: just sit there. So I lived in New York with Gary,

696
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: who is retired from Wall Street at forty five years old,

697
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: but at the time to live with me. Took a

698
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: job as a janitor and was a januitor in New

699
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: York so we could have an apartment, and I was

700
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: on a show at Nickelodeon. I was on Nickelodeon from

701
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: like twelve to fifteen, and then I got Boy at

702
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: sixteen and moved out to l A. But and you

703
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: were that cool guy from New York, you know. They

704
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: were always when your kids, when your kid after you

705
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: always auditioned for stuff, and then it always comes down

706
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: to the same three people. You know, it's like because

707
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: because there's the pool was very limited back then, so

708
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, it's always me Elijah Wood

709
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: and like, uh Ben. I first met Ben because Ben

710
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: and I screen tested against each other for Newsies. Do

711
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: you guys remember, of course, yeah, the musical news Hees.

712
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: So it was down to Luke Edwards who ended up

713
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: getting it. This kid named Ben Savage who I met

714
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: that day, and then me Um and we all we

715
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: had we had to sing, we had to dance and act,

716
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: and back then they did screen tests on thirty five

717
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: millimeter on the Disney lot, so we had a full

718
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: film shoot. Anyway, that's a whole another shot. But but yeah,

719
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: but so but then there was always whenever they would

720
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: have these auditions, like there would always be that cool

721
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: guy from New York. You'd get flown in from New

722
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: York and they always got the part. You'd always be like, ah,

723
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: we're just the other schmucks from l A. Will always

724
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: see each other. But yeah, I remember, Yeah, your life

725
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: must have been so different from ours as far as

726
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: being a kid actor man, because in the woods in

727
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: Connecticut and it was like, you know, I would I

728
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: would go back to my regular life in Connecticut, which

729
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: was the best. But then I, oh, I have an

730
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: audition today, I have to go shoot a commercial today.

731
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: The bus would pick me up. I would go down

732
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: to the bus and I would do my job whatever

733
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: I had to do, and then back home to Connecticut.

734
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: You know. It was That's just that's how it was.

735
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: So it was much different from me. The whole l

736
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: A thing was very When I finally didn't move out

737
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, I didn't like it. It was very weird.

738
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: I was very disconnected from everybody. You guys were so

739
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: much younger than I was, and I was right in

740
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: the middle. So I was either too old or too

741
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: young to really hang out with anybody. Um. Luckily I

742
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: met Marsden right away, and and so Jason who played

743
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: Jason mars who is still still one of my best

744
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: friends in the world. And um, we had a small

745
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: little group of friends. But they're like, hey, man, didn't

746
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: you go a party and do my I would get

747
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: back to to Connecticut, my friends like, what's the club

748
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: seem like? I was like, I don't know what. I

749
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: don't know the racket clubs, okay, what they let me in,

750
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: But I just it was not that kind of big

751
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: party thing for me, and it was yeah, very okay.

752
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: So we've made it to Wednesday. So Wednesday was pre

753
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: tape day, and so we were finally bring We talked

754
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: about Tuesday run through being for the network, then they

755
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: brought up the networking. Tuesday was then the same day

756
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: rehearsal day, and then we run again for network um

757
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: and then Network gets to give notes to Michael, and

758
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: then Michael get deliver's notes to us, and then Wednesday

759
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: they bring in cameras and we shoot everything that we're

760
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: not going to shoot in front of the audience. So

761
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: all of the sets that take place directly in front

762
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: of the audience are usually the ones that you want

763
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: the audience to see. Anything that's called on a swing

764
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: set that's like off to the side that you can't see,

765
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: you shoot that stuff, or a scene that maybe does

766
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: take place right in front of the audience but is

767
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: very intricate or detailed or extremely long and it's going

768
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: to take a long time and you don't have that

769
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: much time in front of the audience. You shoot that

770
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, So that is called pre tape day. And interestingly,

771
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: on our show, they started bringing in an audience for

772
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: that pre tape day. Do you remember this? They figured out, Yes,

773
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: they figured out that we really thrived with an audience.

774
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like all you know, good comedy shows and

775
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: so what they they figured out that on Wednesdays they

776
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: could bring in school buses of school kids and like

777
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: make it like a field trip. So we started having

778
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: really small audiences of just high schoolers or like kids

779
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. So we started doing our pre tape with

780
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: an audience, which is really unusual. Yeah, that was something

781
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: that I don't think other shows ever really did. And

782
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: what you know, I might have been jumping ahead. It

783
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: might not have been until third or fourth season that

784
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: we started doing that, but certainly, like we we broke

785
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: the sort of a calm rules by having an audience.

786
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Did we do that through the end? By see if

787
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: the season seven we were bringing in an audience on Wednesday.

788
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Really I kind of remember it at the end. I

789
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of remember a weird but Thursday, we still pre

790
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: tape stuff in the early part of the day, right

791
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: we'd be pre taping, we'd be rehearsing for camera because

792
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: the camera people, you have four cameras going at the

793
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: same time and basically The way you you shoot a

794
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: sitcom multi camera sitcom is that you're performing at like

795
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: a play, and then the cameras are also constantly moving. There,

796
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: these big cameras on wheels, so the camera operators have

797
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: to make sure that they set up the shot for

798
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: the joke or for the person that has the next line,

799
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: So they're basically memorizing the script like the actors, or

800
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: they're just kind of on the fly making sure that

801
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: they get the shots that they need. So it's like

802
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: this interesting ballet between the actors moving around the set

803
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: doing the scene and the cameras where the fourth wall

804
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: is also moving around and shifting and trading places. And

805
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: so we would rehearse to get that of them down

806
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: so that we could only do we would only have

807
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: to do two or three takes in front of the

808
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: audience and just really make it, give it that live sense,

809
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: you know, like what I mean. And this is the

810
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: form that I love. Lucy really established. They did it

811
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: with three cameras. By the time they got to us,

812
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: it was four cameras, um. And it's an amazing form.

813
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean it it's kind of old fashioned now, right,

814
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: it's like gone out of style. It's but it's almost

815
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: like a radio play, you know what I mean. It's

816
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: like it doesn't look real like the set, you know,

817
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: the way people interact, with the way people move, it's

818
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: not realistic, but it's so fun. It's it's it's like

819
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: sort of the last connection between television and live theater.

820
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: And as an actor, it's the best because it's so

821
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: much easier. Like when you do single camera shows, you

822
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: have to you know, redo the same thing over and

823
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: over for a million different camera angles. They have to

824
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: adjust the lighting every time. In this case, you just

825
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: do it two or three times and you try and

826
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: make it as funny as possible. Yeah, and you know,

827
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: it's also really great to what was back then a

828
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: special because we there was no social media, so we

829
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: didn't have direct contact with people watching the show ever

830
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: unless we were out in the world after the show

831
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: started airing, and every now and then people might say, hey,

832
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: are you I watched that show, But otherwise our our

833
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: direct contact with people who watched the show was non existent.

834
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: And so getting a group of people whether or not

835
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: they had ever seen the shoot the show before, we

836
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: didn't know or didn't care, but we knew people were

837
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: going to get to see us do it in live time,

838
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: and the energy that the audience brings from the moment

839
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: it's Thursday morning, we just know like, oh my gosh,

840
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I have this live, live show day energy. And you

841
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: could hear them getting loaded into the audience and we're

842
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: getting our hair and makeup done backstage and you know

843
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: we're back. We're backstage and we're cracking jokes and I

844
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: Will is making fun of everyone's wardrobe. And then ritual,

845
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: a cast ritual. We had the cast screens scream because

846
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: they would introduce us one by one in front of

847
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: the audience to start the show. Because I have a

848
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: war up MC comedian named Mitch what was Bank? Mitch

849
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: Bank was our warm up. He was a comedian actor guy,

850
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: and so to produce Michael's other show, and he em

851
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: seed every one of our episodes from start to finish,

852
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: and he um so he would warm up the audience

853
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: and just talk to them, play games with them or whatever,

854
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: and then he would introduce us one at a time.

855
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: And so we would gather backstage behind one of the sets,

856
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: usually the living room set, and we would be so

857
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: nervous and excited and all the stuff that would be

858
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: going into the week would just be bubbling and we

859
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: would put our hands together in a circle and scream

860
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 1: at the top of our lungs, and then we would

861
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: get introduced one by one um and then they would

862
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: be off to the races, getting the show that you know,

863
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: I have to say exactly what Danielle was just talking about.

864
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I might miss that energy before the show of all

865
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: of us standing back there, and it's exactly like Danielle said,

866
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: there's there's this. It takes over all your senses. You

867
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: hear the audience come in, if you feel the temperature

868
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: in the building rise a bit because there's now three

869
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: people in there. You hear them laughing at the warm up.

870
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: But especially when the later seasons, when you knew they

871
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: waited in line because they just wanted to see us.

872
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, hey, what's this show? It's I can't

873
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: believe I get a chance to see Boy Meets World.

874
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: And there was such an energy about that that you

875
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: feel like you can walk on water and all the

876
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: lights are down to it's all dark for the first

877
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: time because the week it's all just been you know,

878
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: worklights and you're just in the giant warehouse. But that

879
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: night everything gets dark. It's pitch black. Backstage, you're in

880
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: your wardrobe. You've got you know, it's like you've got

881
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: you've got crisp new clothes on, you know your lines,

882
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: You're ready to go. You're thinking about the jokes. We

883
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: have such a tight like bond because we've been working

884
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: on this through the week, so we've seen the evolution

885
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: of the script and of our characters and of our

886
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: rehearsal process, and we've complained to each other and maybe

887
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: like we've definitely rooted for each other, and we've seen

888
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: us get bad notes and good notes, and here it is.

889
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: It's all culminating in this moment, and it's the most

890
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: fun three and a half hours. You work the entire

891
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: week for those three and a half hours, and they

892
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: call your name and you run out, and the audience screams,

893
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: and you get to see all your friends standing there

894
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: waiting to get knowing they feel exactly the way you do.

895
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: It's such a bond with the cast and uh and

896
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: then they yell action and you're just off to the races.

897
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: It's it's wonderful. It's wonderful, it really is. I miss it.

898
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: So I am very very excited for this podcast because I, Um,

899
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: I really want to do like this big nostalgia dive,

900
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: not just two for the show, but even just for

901
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: my own life. I'm excited to do this nostalgia dive

902
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: and talk about what we're wearing and what the style was,

903
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: and whether or not I would still wear the thing

904
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm wearing back then or whether I would never be

905
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: caught dead in it. Um. I'm looking forward to all

906
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: of that. I'm also super excited. We're going to have

907
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: ton of amazing guests. We are going to have Train McGee,

908
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: Betsy Randall, Rusty Russ who played Mom and Dad, Bill Daniels.

909
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: Of course, the famous Mr Feeney is going to be

910
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: joining us. Um, We're going to have Matt Lawrence, maitland Ward.

911
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: We're also going to invite a lot of our famous

912
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: guest stars. Jason Marsden, who we already mentioned, is hopefully

913
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: going to come by and Okay, great, Yeah, We're gonna

914
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of a lot of great guest stars.

915
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: We're also going to have writers and directors and crew

916
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: if we're able to find them. Like talking about wardrobe,

917
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: there are several wardrobe people I would love to have

918
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: on to talk about what The inspiration behind shirts on

919
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: shirts on shirts was how many? The question became how

920
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: many hoods could you wear? Is three was one too many?

921
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: Too many? Let's find out about focus on. I mean,

922
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: hair was a big one, which is so weird because

923
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: like I just remember thinking, like why do they care?

924
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: And then it became a thing like our hair. You know,

925
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: people cared about it, like audiences would like, you know,

926
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: like my hairstyle, this butt cut middle part, what do

927
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: you want to call it? I don't even know. It's

928
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: like become this iconic thing that I couldn't escape. You know,

929
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I still can't escape, but uh, and like I just yeah,

930
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot, there's a lot lot going. It

931
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: was a big Hair was a big thing. Hair was

932
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: a thing on our show. Yeah, very strange. So why

933
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: don't we talk about some frequently asked questions? Just to

934
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: get some of these things out of the way. We

935
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: know that we know you have them. We get asked

936
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: them all the time. I think the number one most

937
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: frequently asked question as of late is where's Corey? Just

938
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: like that because they don't know his name, Because you know,

939
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: we get referred to as our characters more often than

940
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: not Um and we get it. You know, we were

941
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: in your house every week for seven years with those

942
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: names not as Danielle Writer, Ben and and Will Um.

943
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: So where is Ben Savage? Ben Savage is um doing

944
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: his own thing. He's doing Lifetime movies. He's busy. We

945
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: would love for him to have been a part of

946
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: the show. We asked him to be a part of

947
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: the show. Um, we have been talking about this podcast

948
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: since two thousand eighteen. Yeah, it was actually Will's idea

949
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: was your idea? It was my I was the first person.

950
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: We all went to a convention, because conventions when we

951
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: get to meet our fans. And after one of the conventions,

952
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: I was like, why don't we just do a podcast

953
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: where we watch it? And it was before everybody did

954
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: it now everybody. It was literally it was before office ladies.

955
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: It was before rewatch podcasts or even a thing. Okay,

956
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: writer was Writer's idea. I was going to take the

957
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: credit to well, I'll take the credit my idea idea.

958
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: And we were like, wow, that is a really good idea.

959
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: We should talk about it. And then we talked about

960
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: it with Ben and Ben was like, I'm not sure

961
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: it's really my thing, and we said, okay, we totally

962
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: understand and we'll come back to you if it ever

963
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: becomes anything. And then we took a couple of meetings

964
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight talked about it. Then

965
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: UM brought it up to Ben again and said, are

966
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: you sure this is something we really want to do.

967
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: We think it could be really great and he said,

968
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: it just really is not my thing and we have

969
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: respected that, and UM, it's not his thing. So that

970
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: is why Ben is not here. UM, and let's see

971
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: other frequently asked questions. Uh, we always get asked what

972
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: our favorite episode is that? Yes, which, and it's always

973
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: the same thing. We always say it's we call it

974
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: the screen episode, the screen episode, but it was called

975
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: and then there was Sean, which was the Halloween episode.

976
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: I think there are a bit more answers to that question, though,

977
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: because depends on what you mean. That is my favorite

978
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: episode because of the memory of making it. But if

979
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: you ask me what the quality of the episode is,

980
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: I think there are other answers. And I'm so curious

981
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: because I only have memories. I don't know, you know,

982
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: watching it, there's going to be a new answer, basically,

983
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: like going to discover oh, that is like a solid episode,

984
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of objectively speaking, not just your

985
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: memories of it. To your point, the Scream episode is

986
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: my favorite episode for the memory of making it as

987
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: an ensemble. I have other favorite memories of like favorite episodes,

988
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: especially from season one that just we're really salient to

989
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: me as a little girl making the show like will.

990
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: One of my favorite episodes is the episode where out

991
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: of nowhere randomly to Panga has a crush on Eric

992
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: and Eric that was a great episode. No recollection of

993
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: thatch a good episode. Grab your face, you come in

994
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: to kiss me, to kiss you, kiss me, you palm,

995
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: and I can remember what your palm smelled like, Like

996
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: I right, for someone who has no memories at all,

997
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: I remember, and I think it was because it was

998
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: super awkward. It was award you know, you were sixteen

999
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: and I was twelve at that time and you were twelve. Yeah,

1000
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: and I and it was it was just awkward and weird,

1001
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: and I remember, but I remember you being so like Obviously,

1002
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: I haven't even been on stage for very long. This

1003
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: was maybe even only my third, maybe my fourth episode ever. Um,

1004
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: but you were so easy to be around. We had

1005
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: such a good time. And then as we know, to

1006
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: Panga and Eric were practically never we never really had

1007
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: scenes were reinteracted like that episode is one of my

1008
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: favorites for that reason, So yes, I remember that episode.

1009
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: Is hard to pin down because we have favorites for

1010
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: so many different reasons. And it will change. I think

1011
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: writer's right when we watch it will change for exactly

1012
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: that reason, like oh that one was special to me

1013
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: or this one, and then yeah, they will get into

1014
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: the whole thing because they then went weird with with

1015
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: Eric and to Pango where then it was like we

1016
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: ended up in bed together at one point, and do

1017
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: you remember do you remember this where I'm like, I

1018
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: need a roommate, so you'd get it, you like get

1019
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: ready for bed and you slide into bed and then

1020
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm over there. I'm in bed like hey, roomy because

1021
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: that's not creepy at all. I'm just be with you.

1022
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, they would. They did stuff like

1023
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: that too, where it was just like, oh, that's really weird.

1024
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get in bed with my brother's girlfriend,

1025
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: like really bizarre stuff. So yeah, that was will unpack

1026
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: all as we keep saying, we'll unpack all this as

1027
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: we go, we'll unpack that for sure. Um. Any other

1028
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: frequently asked questions we want to touch on here? Phoene call? Yes,

1029
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: why don't you do the Phoene call anyway? Is the question? Um,

1030
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: why don't you do? There's a number of reasons I

1031
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: don't do the Phoene call. Um, there there really are,

1032
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: and one of them is so, if I'm being totally honest,

1033
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: I was upset with the way the Phoene call was

1034
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: taken from me, which is the absolute truth. So when

1035
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: we start, when they started Girl Meets World, Michael without

1036
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: and again I'm not trying to bash Michael in any way,

1037
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: shape or form, but without any apologized to me for this, frankly, Um,

1038
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: without calling me, without letting me know, without doing anything.

1039
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: He just popped in a tape of the Phoene Call

1040
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: to the to Rowan and Sabrina and said, you guys

1041
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: are now doing this. You're both doing this when you

1042
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: meet Mr Phoenie. Uh. Other than it's saying Phoenie with

1043
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 1: an exclamation point in the script, the Phoenie call was mine,

1044
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: like I created that out of whole cloth. It was

1045
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: just I just made that my own. So I thought

1046
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: without even being asked to then take it and give

1047
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: it away. Um, I didn't think was very cool. Uh

1048
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: So Michael apologized to me. He's like, you're right, that

1049
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: was And I told him that. I was like, that's

1050
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, that wasn't cool. He's like, I didn't even

1051
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: he he said, look, I honestly didn't even think about

1052
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: it that way. You're right I should have. Let's do

1053
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: some kind of passing of the torch. And I went

1054
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: in front of the audience at Girl Meets World, I

1055
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: did it one more time and I said I passed

1056
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: it on to the girls. And I got that because

1057
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: and this is a true story, I was doing a

1058
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: cartoon called ThunderCats, which was one of my favorite cartoons

1059
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: ever growing up, and I got a chance to play

1060
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: lion O and the original lion O actor Larry Kenny,

1061
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: played my dad on the show. And he was at

1062
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: a convention and he's he actually sent me the clip

1063
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: and I thought this was really cool where somebody said,

1064
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: can you do the famous lion lion ThunderCats hoe and

1065
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: he said, I will do it one more time for you.

1066
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: But then it's Wills and I am officially packed passing

1067
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: the torch and I thought that was cool. He says

1068
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: he's never done it since. He knows he has, but

1069
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: he says he's never done it since. Um so I

1070
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: took that coupled with kind of like you know, that

1071
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: was mine and you gave it away, And I liked

1072
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: this passing the torch thing, and I have haven't done

1073
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: it since. It's also interesting. I mean, I know you've

1074
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: talked about to me, you've talked, you've expressed this before.

1075
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: You didn't even realize you had a catchphrase. It was

1076
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: it was It was one of those funny bits. We

1077
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: did a lot of bits on the show. Like you

1078
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: remember in the first season, Ben kept saying like I'm

1079
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: super boy or something. You did that, and they like

1080
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: they try these things out and give us like catch

1081
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: phrases or repetitive jokes, and like the Phoene Call was

1082
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: just one of the many, like your your character has

1083
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: so many. So it's really only in retrospect that it

1084
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: became like a defining characteristic of the show. Yeah, it

1085
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: also wasn't even named the Phoene Call until the last episode.

1086
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: The very last episode, Eric says to to Phoenie, you know,

1087
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: come on, be honest, you love the Phoene call. You're

1088
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: gonna miss the Phoene call. That's the first time that

1089
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: was ever said. So it wasn't even a It was

1090
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: just it would say Mr Feenie, and I would then

1091
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: make it nine minutes long. I mean that was all

1092
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: that it was. It wasn't like the Phoene call. Um. So, yeah,

1093
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: I had no idea that I had. I had my own.

1094
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: Did I do that? I didn't know that. It's like

1095
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know that. So yeah, so interesting.

1096
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: That's that. That's the story behind the Phoenie call. Are

1097
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: there any other what are the frequently asked question? Because

1098
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: we do we always get the same frequently asked kind

1099
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, I had a document with them

1100
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: written down, and I don't know where the document is.

1101
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: So that's a frequently asked question for Danielle is where

1102
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: did you put that? Where? I got him? I got him,

1103
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: I got him? Are you still friends? I think that

1104
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: that much is obvious. You don't even need to answer that.

1105
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: Oh did you actually cut your hair? O? Good one.

1106
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: I sure did, with real scissors and everything. We can't

1107
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: talk to me. We'll talk about that when that episode

1108
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: comes around. Um, that's another week that I do have

1109
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: very um strong memories, mostly of people yelling off stage

1110
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: on the night it was going to happen. Um. It

1111
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: was such a the amount of stress. Again, the importance

1112
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: placed on hair in this show is weird, um, but

1113
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: there was so much stress around the cutting of the

1114
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: hair because you only get really one good take at it.

1115
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: You get one good this before, and once that's cut,

1116
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: you can't go back to Danielle has super long hair,

1117
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: certainly not quick um. And it was Mike. I remember

1118
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: the negotiation with Michael show me where, show me where

1119
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: You're getting no because he did not want me to

1120
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: cut my hair short. And you also have to This

1121
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: was the first time you would ever cut your hair

1122
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: in life. In life, I had I had a trim

1123
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: when I was three years old because from the time

1124
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I was too my hair reached my butt. And when

1125
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: I turned three, I had these little ringlet at the

1126
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: bottom of my hair, and my mom decided I needed

1127
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: a trim and she basically just cut the ringlets off

1128
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: and that was the last time I ever cut my hair.

1129
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: So I was either fifteen or sixteen years old. Other

1130
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: than little trims, you know, I would get little little

1131
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: like I'm talking half an inch off the bottom of

1132
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: my hair. Otherwise I had that super long hair my

1133
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: entire life. And yes, I got to be fifteen, sixteen

1134
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: years old. I think I was fifteen, and I just

1135
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: wanted to cut my hair. And I asked Michael over

1136
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: a summer break, so our again, our schedule, we usually

1137
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: started our seasons in August and then we would shoot

1138
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: for three weeks, take a week off, shoot for three weeks,

1139
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: take a week off, and then during holidays we get

1140
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: two weeks off and we would shoot then straight until May,

1141
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: and then May would start our summer break and we

1142
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: would go on summer break from middle of May until August.

1143
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: And somewhere in that summer I called Michael and said,

1144
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, I want to cut my hair. I guess

1145
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: I just knew that. I wasn't that I couldn't just

1146
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: cut it, but like it was like in my can tracked.

1147
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, I I knew better than to just

1148
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: do it. And I said, I want to cut my hair.

1149
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: Are you okay with that? And he said no, absolutely not,

1150
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: no oh no, no, no, no no, And then it

1151
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: was like, please, I've never cut it. I'm really tight

1152
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: hot and I've never done it. I just I want

1153
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: something new, And he said okay, but then you have

1154
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: to let me, let me at least write an episode

1155
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: about it. And I said okay. So I had to

1156
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: wait until the episode came around. Um, so yes, I

1157
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: really did cut my hair. Uh, and I can't wait

1158
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: to talk about it when that episode gets around. That's

1159
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: that's going to be really fun. You just said something

1160
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: really interesting because it just had me flashback on something

1161
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: to you instantly snapped to this place of I can't

1162
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: do anything with my body or looks without permission, asking permission,

1163
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: even when it was never really specifically said to. But

1164
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: I remember asking if I could get a tattoo, asking

1165
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: if I could cut my hair, asking if I It's like,

1166
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: we just knew we're not allowed to do any of

1167
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: this with it. Writer, weren't Wasn't there something where you

1168
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to roller blade? After a while, No, I

1169
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: I went bungee jumping and skydiving. Remember the director that

1170
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: we've just been like, don't, don't, don't, don't tell the producers,

1171
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: don't don't tell them you're doing this stuff. I did

1172
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: that with helicopter lessons, where you can't we can't let

1173
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: you fly, And I was like, I don't think they

1174
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: ever told me to not rollerblade, but that makes such

1175
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: a great ninth story that maybe the story I heard

1176
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: frequently asked questions. The story I heard was that you

1177
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: were rollerblading at uh the oak Woid where we all lived,

1178
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: and somebody broke their leg. It wasn't you, but somebody

1179
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: broke their leg. Your mom my mom broke because that

1180
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: was the four boy meats world. That was because I

1181
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I thought then the story I heard

1182
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: as they heard about that, they were like, no more rollerblading,

1183
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Like that's it, You're done. Wait did you both live

1184
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: at Oakwood when you first when the show first season

1185
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: of the show, we both lived at Oakwood's. I was

1186
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: in the Z building and I was okay, then that

1187
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: was the year I was in qu Okay because we

1188
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: were pretty far away if I remember the buildings that Okay,

1189
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: So just for everybody in the oak Wod apartments of

1190
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: these legendary month to month furnished apartments that all actors,

1191
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: especially child actors, would live in because you can move

1192
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: and their families you can move in for one month

1193
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: at a time, and it would have all the furniture,

1194
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: and so everybody would come for pilot season or to

1195
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: make a movie or to do one show, and so yeah,

1196
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: so we would live there with our you know, you

1197
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: live with your roommate, Spencer. I lived with my brother

1198
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: who was on a TV show at the same time

1199
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: that we were doing Boy Met the World. He was

1200
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: on The Mommy's We both had TV shows going at

1201
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: the same starting at the same time, and so my

1202
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: mom would be shuttling us from both sets. But we

1203
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: all lived at the oak Woods, which is this just

1204
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: this hilly apartment complex in Burbank and it's all paved,

1205
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: so it was rollerblading heaven. I mean it was also

1206
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: like summer camp for me, Like we would go for

1207
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: pilot season and you need all these child actors who

1208
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: would be coming from all over the country, and you'd

1209
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: all just hang out at the pool and the hot

1210
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: blade together. We'll have so many oak with child child

1211
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: actors and divorced men. That's the people that lived at

1212
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: the oak Wand for the record, I did not live

1213
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: at the oak Wood because I'm a native Native Southern Californian,

1214
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: So I lived with my family. We lived in calabasas

1215
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: Um I just because Yeah, you kept saying we all

1216
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: lived there, and I was like, Oh, they're going to

1217
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: think we all went the same complex. I have one

1218
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: more frequently asked question which I think would be a

1219
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: good one to go out on, and we have to

1220
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: keep it kind of brief because we go, but what

1221
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: are you guys doing now? A podcast? That's a real question, John,

1222
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: I know this is the where are they now questioned?

1223
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: A little bio of we're what we've been up to?

1224
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: Okay from Since two thousand seventeen, I have been a

1225
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: full time sitcom TV director UM, which is just a

1226
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: continuation of what we're talking about here. It's something that

1227
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know I ever wanted to do. I got

1228
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do it for the first time on

1229
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: Girl Mead's World, Uh, fell in love with it and

1230
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: have been very fortunate to be able to make a

1231
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: career of it. UM. So I've been doing that full time.

1232
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: I also my husband Jensen and I have a production company.

1233
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: We have a couple of shows UM in early stages

1234
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: of production. We have a pilot out and a few

1235
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: their things UM. And then I also have a hair

1236
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: care company, which I am extremely proud of. And it

1237
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: is a very small team. There are four of us

1238
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: total in the entire company, from development to being delivered

1239
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: on your doorstep. We're involved in every single aspect of it. UM.

1240
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: It's called Be Free by Daniel Fishel and uh. I

1241
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: love it and I'm super proud of it. And then

1242
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: I also have two children, which, although that is a

1243
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: personal life thing, it's also a job. Yeah you go, writer, Yeah,

1244
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: I am also a father. Right now, I am full

1245
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: time solo parenting well of my wife, who is an

1246
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: actor's producer, director writer, is off producing a feature film

1247
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: in New York at the moment, so this I am

1248
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: on a month. I'm about eight weeks into solo parenting

1249
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: while she's gone. So my main job right now is

1250
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: raising in our seven year old and making sure, you know,

1251
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: he gets the school and his shoelaces are tied, which

1252
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: is lovely and awesome. I also run a I do

1253
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: in my own podcast, which is called Literary Disco. I

1254
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: am a huge book nerd, which you guys will remember

1255
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: from way back. I always have been so literary discos.

1256
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: So I've been doing that for like ten years, podcasting

1257
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: about books UM. And we're relaunching a new season of

1258
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: that I'm by. My main job is writer, writer, director.

1259
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: I directed a lot of The Girl Meets World episodes

1260
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: and really loved it. I've made a bunch of short

1261
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: films and but mostly I've made a living for the

1262
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: last twelve years as a screenwriter. Uh you know. And

1263
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: of course the life of a screenwriter is you write

1264
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: movies and then they never actually get made. Um. But

1265
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: I've been paid and I've been doing you know, I've

1266
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed it. But I'm ready to write and direct

1267
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: an actual movie movie on my own, a feature. I

1268
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: love it, um. I you know. I stopped acting probably

1269
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: ten years ago, and it was the best decision I

1270
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: ever made. As much as I love actors and I

1271
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: love the industry, I really like being within it, but

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the camera. So directing is

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Speaker 1: my dream job. It's a very hard job to get.

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Speaker 1: So writing is what I do all the time. Are

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Speaker 1: you writing anything with anyone you know? Right now? Actually,

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Speaker 1: one of my like one of my many projects is

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Speaker 1: with the incredibly talented wilfordl We're ready to feature script

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Speaker 1: right now. Um yeah, And it's probably the best thing

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Speaker 1: I'm working on right now. I'm really excited about it. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're very excited. UM. I left the industry at the

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Speaker 1: on camera side of the industry as well due to

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Speaker 1: an anxiety disorder, which I've talked about a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: I will be getting back on camera eventually. I'm slowly

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Speaker 1: but surely getting there. But my love and passion since

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Speaker 1: I was nineteen twenty years old has been voiceover voiceover industry. UM.

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Speaker 1: I've written for a number of the animated series that

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Speaker 1: I do, and it is still the joy of my

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Speaker 1: life to be a voiceover actor. I have a movie

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Speaker 1: that just came out last week called DC Superhero Girls

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Speaker 1: and Teen Titans Mayhem in the Multiverse. I have two

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Speaker 1: new series coming out which I'm not allowed to talk

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Speaker 1: about right as of yet, but they're very very cool.

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Speaker 1: And I also do a podcast about the entertainment industry

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Speaker 1: about the voiceover industry called I Hear Voices with Christy Carlson,

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Speaker 1: Roma Know who. I did a show called Kim Possible

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Speaker 1: with and Uh. We do a show where not only

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Speaker 1: do we interview all of the best voiceover actors in

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Speaker 1: the world, but amateur voiceover actors get to come on

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Speaker 1: and actually do a voiceover session. With those voiceover actors,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna take all that stuff and animated,

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Speaker 1: so people get to be in their own cartoon. It

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Speaker 1: is very fun. It's called I hear voices. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: But that has been my life. And then I do

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Speaker 1: a bunch of conventions, hopefully a lot of them. With

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Speaker 1: these people here who I love like family. We do

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Speaker 1: do something together which is pretty amazing. And I get

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Speaker 1: to travel the world with my wife and uh just

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Speaker 1: meet fans and it's absolutely wonderful. So that's what I've

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Speaker 1: been doing. I have one final question for all of us,

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Speaker 1: what is the what's the best thing you can hope

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Speaker 1: for coming out of this podcast and rewatching Boy meets

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Speaker 1: World and what is the thing you're the most nervous

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Speaker 1: or scared of? Like high point, low point? What's the

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Speaker 1: best and worst of what we're about to and indulge

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Speaker 1: ourselves in. Wow, good question. Do you have anything off

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Speaker 1: the top of your head? Writer? I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have you know. I was I was at a

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Speaker 1: wedding like a couple of weeks ago, three weeks ago

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Speaker 1: as a friend's wedding, and um, I met an actress

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Speaker 1: comedian who was there you know, it was one of

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Speaker 1: those three day weddings. So this is like day three

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Speaker 1: when we were actually at the wedding and sitting down

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Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, you know I grew up

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Speaker 1: on on your show. Um, and you know you're really cool,

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Speaker 1: like you seem like really healthy and like really cool.

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Speaker 1: What how do you relate to that show now? Like

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you? How do you feel

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Speaker 1: about it? And it was like the most for the

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Speaker 1: first time, I was like I have such a long answer. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I say for the first time because

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Speaker 1: I think that for every other stage in my life

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Speaker 1: I had really pat easy answers. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: I'm so lucky to be on the TV show, or

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Speaker 1: then it was like, oh no, I'm just a student

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Speaker 1: now I don't want to talk about that, or and

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Speaker 1: you know, I just felt such a mature question like

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Speaker 1: here I am early forties with another actor in their

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01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: forties asking me a very honest question like what was that?

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: And and I realized I could talk for probably an

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Speaker 1: hour and a half if I let myself. And so

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Speaker 1: I think that that's what this show is for me personally,

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01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: like is trying to come to terms with the with

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: what Boy Meets World means because it had such a

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Speaker 1: cultural impact outside of my control. When you're a kid actor,

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01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: like we were saying about our hair and what not,

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01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: so many things are outside of your control, and as

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Speaker 1: positive as that can be, because like, hey, I made

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Speaker 1: enough money to be able to send myself through college,

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Speaker 1: you know, like my parents didn't have to pay for that. Um,

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Speaker 1: I've been able to have this great life as access

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Speaker 1: point to the writing career that I now have. So

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Speaker 1: there's so many positive things that came from Boy Meets World.

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Speaker 1: There's also a lot of negative memories I have of

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Speaker 1: of of how it affected my life and and for

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Speaker 1: a long time I wanted to be anything but Seawan

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Speaker 1: Hunter from Boy Meets World. I spent most of my

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Speaker 1: twenties running away from it. And now I'm at a

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Speaker 1: place where I think I can kind of be mature

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Speaker 1: enough to see see it from both sides and to

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Speaker 1: talk that out. So I don't have an easy answer,

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Speaker 1: but I think that that's why we should do this

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01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: podcast is because I think it's it's a it's a

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01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: really complicated question and has a really complicated answer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think that's that's kind of where I

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Speaker 1: would go. I mean, the the high point for me

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Speaker 1: is doing it with both of you. Um, the being

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Speaker 1: able to do something that Again, I watched the first

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: episode and I genuinely had a huge spike of anxiety

1369
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Speaker 1: pressing play before I hit the first episode of the show.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that helps me and always

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Speaker 1: has helped me, is being around people that I love

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Speaker 1: and I trust and knowing that I'm with the both

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Speaker 1: of you and going on this journey where we can

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: talk about all this stuff together and you're talking about

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Speaker 1: it with people that went through the same thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're in the trenches together, and while our

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Speaker 1: experiences might have differed, we can come at it from

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01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: the same place, which is something that I'm very much

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Speaker 1: looking forward to. What scares me is pulling back the

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Speaker 1: curtain to realize that the great and powerful Laws is

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Speaker 1: just a man. Uh. That's what scares me is that

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Speaker 1: these memories that I have that are so wonderful for me,

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01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: uh and so incredible that really, when I do look

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Speaker 1: at them as an adult, I might look back and

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Speaker 1: maybe they're not as great as I remember them being. Um,

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Speaker 1: which again I don't know Frankly and I and there

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01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: there's it's gonna bring up a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of different emotions all the way through, and their emotions

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Speaker 1: that I want to We keep using the word unpacked,

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Speaker 1: that I want to unpack. I'm glad I'm doing it

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Speaker 1: with the both of you. But that's what scares me

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: the most is I I have maybe put the show

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: and my experiences on the show on a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a pedestal, and I'm making sure that the pedestal

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Speaker 1: is marble and not feather. And when I look back,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping it's as I remember. And that's I think

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Speaker 1: what scares me the most is is, you know, again

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Speaker 1: getting having some of the guest cast come back on,

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Speaker 1: and having other people we worked with come back on

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Speaker 1: and maybe their experiences weren't that great and and it's

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Speaker 1: those kind of things that's gonna make me re look

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01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: at my own past from a different perspective of and

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: I think I need to Frankly, I mean, nobody's life

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01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: is perfect. I don't care how amazing you think your

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Speaker 1: experience was. It was still just an experience that had

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Speaker 1: highs and lows. And Uh, it's going to be interesting

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Speaker 1: to go back. So that's again a long winded, a

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Speaker 1: long winded answer that got us nowhere, But that's exactly

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Speaker 1: kind of how I feel. It's those are those exactly

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Speaker 1: why I asked I am. I am very much looking

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Speaker 1: forward to going through this with you guys. It says

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Speaker 1: it is, for lack of the better term, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a safe space. It feels safe to go through this

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Speaker 1: with you guys. Um, I'm really looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping, like I said, that it will bring back

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Speaker 1: some memories for me, because I do have very fond

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Speaker 1: memories of most of the time on Boy Meets World,

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Speaker 1: and I'd like to have more of them. Um, every

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01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: time you guys remind me of stuff or say things

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I don't remember that, I start

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01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: to like, I think, and I think and I think.

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Speaker 1: Like when writer mentioned some of the small audience on Wednesdays,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I do kind of remember that. Towards

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Speaker 1: the end, like, oh, that's interesting. So I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: say what it brings up. Like I said, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for the nostalgia dive. I will be perfectly honest and

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Speaker 1: say that my the thing that makes me the most

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Speaker 1: nervous is I know how beloved this show is to

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Speaker 1: so many people, and we meet them, We meet fans

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01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 1: at cons and they tell us these very personal stories

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Speaker 1: about what the show meant, and that always means so

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Speaker 1: much to us. We walk away from those conventions and

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01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: we say, I am so glad I met everybody that

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Speaker 1: I met this weekend and I heard their stories. And

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01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 1: I want to watch the show and be very honest

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01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: in the podcast about the feelings it brings up for me,

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01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: the thoughts I have about a scene or a storyline

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 1: or the acting, whether it's my own or you know whatever.

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01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: I want to be able to be very honest about it.

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01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: And my what makes me the most nervous is possibly

1441
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: ruining something that some maybe even just one memory for

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01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: somebody that they that they love. Um and so that

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: makes me nervous. But I'm gonna be I'm gonna just

1444
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: have to be very honest about how I feel, and

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01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: hopefully it's it's mostly you know, rosie and fun and wonderful,

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01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: the way it is in my memory. But uh I,

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: I just want us to be as honest as possible

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01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: as we go through this, because I think that's gonna

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: be what's best for everyone. Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 1: That's good. That was a great answer. I want to

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Speaker 1: take that one. So next week we're jumping in. We

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: are rewatching the pilot, starting in with episode number one

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01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: oh one. The pilot it was called um and So yeah,

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Speaker 1: next week, big, big week. I can't wait to jump

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Speaker 1: in and uh, listen, writer, I think our first week

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Speaker 1: since this podcast was your idea. You have the honors

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Speaker 1: of our tagline, we love you all. Pod dismissed Pod

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Speaker 1: Meets World as an I heart podcast produced and hosted

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Speaker 1: by Daniel Fishel Wilfredel and writer Strong. Executive producers Jensen

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Speaker 1: Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo,

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: producer and editor, Tara Sudbach, producer, Lorraine Verruez, engineer and

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song

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Speaker 1: is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram

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01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: at Pod Meets World Show or email us at Pod

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Speaker 1: Meets World Show at gmail dot com.