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And as its 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Father's Day, we have Brian Buckley coming in of course 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: from hv g C and happened Father Day to Brian. 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: E's gonna be bringing in an M D. Who has 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: a book out that's gonna be talking with us on 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: the show. Her name was Rebecca Seagull. The book is 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: The Brain on Cannabis. As he's gonna be to talk 44 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: about her. And that being said, well, what did you 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: do get to do for father there? I'll tell you what, man, 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: it was very nice. I got to get up and 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: hang out with my boys. Um, you know, they they 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: took me down to the horse truck and we played 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: bet on some ponies. So it was nice. I only 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: lost two hundred bucks and uh, it was fun time. 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: Is that the first time that you guys have done 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: that together? No, no, no, we've should I've had them 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: out there before they can remember they were out there. Really, 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: it's something you've done your kids. Your kids were my kids. 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: They're just taking out of the ponies at that, Oh 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. Yeah, it's just good. It's I mean, 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: I remember being that angel my parents going to the 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: horse track and betting on some horses and and uh, 59 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta call one horse a bum, you bum, 60 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: but you gotta slap the you gotta slap That isn't 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: a great These things that you learn as kids and 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: just these rituals and things like that. It's just funny, yeah, real, real, 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: like a I mean it's funny because I sit in 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: giggle because I could just only imagine seeing little Christopher 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Wright as a kid and your brother and your dad, 66 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: you just going to this place and literally doing that. 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have that experience. I mean, there's a lot 68 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: of different things I've done, but I need a horse 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: track experience as a kid, and I could just go 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: and I see him out there. I mean, I've been 71 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: out there a lot as an adult, right And I 72 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: see the parents out there with the kids, and I 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: don't know why, but I don't associate it that's something 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: that I would take my kids too, which is weird. 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Why why? I don't know. And I say it's weird 76 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: because you make it sounds so wonderful, beautiful story. And 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: I claim to be a weird I don't claim to 78 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: think what I'm thinking this normal. I'm taking what I'm thinking. 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: It's weird. Like I don't know why I look at 80 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: it's weird that I would take my kids there. I 81 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: almost feel like a weirdo now that I think this way, 82 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: As you just told me this beautiful story. If you're 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: growing up, you know what I mean, Like why I thought, 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it could have be an adult 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: uh you know thing. You know if you're over there, 86 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, drinking and and you know a lot of 87 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: people are smoking cigars, but you like to do um, 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: you know. But ultimately, you know, it's it's it's a 89 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: great place for kids, I mean too. You know, they 90 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: get to hang out and watch check out their favorite horses. 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: You teach them a little bit about you know, horses 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: and don't like that. I mean, I guess it is gambling, 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: but you know, you don't necessarily have to gamble. You 94 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: can just watch the horses run, you know. I think 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: he's fair. It's funny time telling a good time, right, 96 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: It was definitely a good time. What's the most you've 97 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: ever won on a horse, Hris? I think I've done 98 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: like seven seven, seven hundred dollars, So that seven eight 99 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: and nine on one race? Y oh yeah. Yeah. It 100 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: was like it was like a one of those long 101 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: shots of four hundred forty dollar bet you know, got 102 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: me seven hundred dollars, you know, and uh, it was 103 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: just one of those oh my god moments like dude, 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I just want you know, seven hundred dollars forty bucks, 105 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: and I forget, I forget what it was a trifecto 106 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: or you know, it's something in that that range. And 107 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where you know, just 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: again she got lucky and and uh, you know, hit 109 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: hit it. You know, I went today, you know, I 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: sat down and I played for a little bit. I 111 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: think it was I was going for what was that. 112 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: I think I got a trifecta box and I had 113 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: thirty dollars bet in it and I ended up with 114 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: ninety seven dollars. You know, it was really nice. Um. 115 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: And then there was a couple other good little pits 116 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: that I had took me back up from. Like you know, 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: at one point, I was down about a hundred bucks 118 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: and I was up a hundred thirty bucks, and we 119 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: still had six more races to go, though, and I 120 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: just kept, you know, bouncing up and down, and you know, 121 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: I say I lost two hundred bucks, but I mean 122 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: I spent a hundred dollars on food, you know, buying 123 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: some food and stuff like that for everybody, and and 124 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, and then a hundred bucks at the at 125 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: the track, you know, about a hundred hundred you know 126 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: ten bucks or whatever. Oh that's always a great time. 127 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Though I've never really come up big on the horse 128 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: faces that I've beat him a lot. And actually at 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: one point and when I worked at Elvis and ironically 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: we actually raced horses and catmels at one point on 131 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: race tracks in San Francisco. We're at the doghouse. I 132 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: was actually on a horse before Oh this got tossed 133 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: off the horse who's our producer and um ended up 134 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: having had bax storgery. A yes about that, mistaken it 135 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: for real? Like uh, And these horse races because at 136 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: one time the dog us when we were doing these 137 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: in the Bay area. Who went there? And I'll never 138 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: forget that horse just taken off and Elvis and it's 139 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: on a video that we have, and I'll never forget 140 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: Elvis being an idiot trying to get off the horse. 141 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: And what does he do? He ends up jumping off 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: rather than just staying on the horse and waiting for 143 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: the horse to calmed me under stop, you know what 144 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean. He tried to jump off the horse like 145 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: an idiot. He tried to jump off wall was moving, yes, 146 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and he did that, That's what he did. And I 147 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: was on the horse watching him. I'm on the horse 148 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: track dog, and I'm scared too because my horse starts 149 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: running after his horse and he at the race track. 150 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: I just I don't know why I forgot about this 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the beginning of this conversation, and as you're talking about 152 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: all his horse track stories, I'm going, oh, yeah, I 153 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: remember racing horse once or twice, and then a camel 154 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: once in radio. Oh, and then Elvis freed himself in 155 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: the name of funding radio. That's another thing when I 156 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: think about these jockeys like that, and these people, and 157 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: and how it all really ties back into cannabis. How 158 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: all these people that are racing horses and these horses, 159 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of them are us. Didn't see 160 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: the knees and you know, the oils and creams and 161 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: everything else that I know these jockeys because it's such 162 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: a little fucking gig. You're running forces and on these horces. 163 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: You gotta be so athletic, so small and strong. Yeah, 164 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: So there's you know, it's funny the guys that they were, 165 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: they were righting it with my Suven and I were 166 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: looking at him like going, wow, those guys are tiny, huh. 167 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: You know, so they're they're pretty pretty small gentlemen. How 168 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: about yourself? What you do for Father's Day? It's uh, 169 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: it's been a nice day. I actually got a chance 170 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: to spend the weekend at my son's club soccer tournament. 171 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: And it's the first time in our lives as parents 172 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: with kids that our son or any of our kids 173 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: were in a club organization, meaning normal leagues we pay 174 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: for and you know, you play in the league. This 175 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: was an organization where he had to try out for 176 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: and see if he made the club. And he did, 177 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and now this was their first tournament and that two 178 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: games yesterday, two games to day, and they won the 179 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: whole tournament. And it was like the best father's day. 180 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: Like I love watching my kids put sports in with 181 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: so that doesn't matter where who went, you know what 182 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Like what did you do? I was on 183 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: the soccer field all day. It was awesome, you know. 184 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's one game at eleven, that a break in, 185 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: another game at three thirty, and I loved it, you 186 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like we went at a lunch 187 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: and say Clementi and then we you know, I had 188 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: to take the dog. It was just fun and cool 189 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: when you're with like it was the first weekend with 190 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: all these new parents as well, meaning like one of 191 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: the parents and families from Garden Grove with the best 192 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: player on our team got this kid is from Garden 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: Row right by you, I swear to God, and I 194 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: forgot to ask him exactly what, but I told him 195 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: our office is and stand whatever. And so my point is, 196 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: the kids are from all over to the moral of 197 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: the story, but ironically the kids by you the best 198 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: player of the team. And these kids win their first game, 199 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: win the second game, they get beat now today which 200 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: was Father's Day, the first game and when I say 201 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: they got beat though on the score, they lost by 202 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: two goals and it was like seven five, and at 203 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: one point it was just they were down by by 204 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: four and they came back and it was just tied. 205 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: These kids are resilient and end up winning the whole tournament. 206 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: But it was just watch and seeing my son, like 207 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the mental toughness that he was. He's goalie on the team, 208 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: and they spored him several times. And you know, some 209 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: of them they scored tough and some of them were 210 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: just like I thought he cared about. But just you know, 211 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: seeing this whole team come together was a joy and 212 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: then winning, you know what I mean, that's good that 213 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: the first turn. What I mean, if you take it 214 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: better than that? What do you know if you're out 215 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: there and do you want to tell us about how 216 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: your father's day went? To give us a call nineteen 217 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: eighty and Joe, that is an amazing story. And honestly 218 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: it sounds like you guys had a great time. And yeah, 219 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: it's just it's just perfect. They almost took up all 220 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: of your time just play with the games. But at 221 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: the same time, you got to really enjoy the kids 222 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: out there hustling and bustible, right, and that's the best 223 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: time about everything. And I think I see Brian walking 224 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: in right now from hu g C. So let's get 225 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: happen about I gotta jump. Are you gotta go do 226 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: something real quick? We'll go go a handle that I'll 227 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: give Brian hu GCS Cannabis Talk one on one. We'll 228 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: be right back after this go. We'll be right back 229 00:11:49,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: with Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis 230 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Talk one oh one. If you're looking for a trust 231 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: of cannabis seat at a fair price, had to rocket 232 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: Seeds dot Com are on Instagram at Rocket Underscore Seeds. 233 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Now on this show, you guys have told you about this. 234 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: Right before the break, I got my buddy, your buddy, 235 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: he's all of our buddy United States Special Operations veteran 236 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: from the Marine Raiders. These guys were some badasses. You've 237 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: heard them on this show many a time. US Marine 238 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Brian Buckley of Hellman Valley Growers Company is with us 239 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: again on Cannabis Talk one on one, and I love 240 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: this said we go another show, because Brian, you're always 241 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: talking to such great interesting veterans. I mean, Chris running 242 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: for Congress a while back is dope. And I just 243 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: love this concept because, you know, talking to one of 244 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: our veterans that we love to talk to. Other veterans 245 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: out there in the cannabis community are just out there 246 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: in the space, and I know we're gonna eventually try 247 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: to talk to some people about there evening in Ukraine, 248 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: which is as crazy as we talked. But the little 249 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: thing that I love about your company is since the inception, 250 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Helman Valley Growers Company has been in discussion with the 251 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: industry's top researchers and have developed a veteran based protocol 252 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: to effectively prove the benefits of medical cannabis. Now h 253 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: v g C is supported and essentially operated by three 254 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: Marine raiders that served following nine eleven two thousand one. 255 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: And you know what here again with us is Mr 256 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: Badass himself. He's in my phone? Is that Brian Buckley? 257 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: Thank you for your service, buddy, and thank you for 258 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: everything you do well, thank you for paying your taxes, 259 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: and thank you for having me here, no doubt, brother, 260 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: It's always good to have you on the show with us. 261 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: And like I said, you're always bringing something special on 262 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: the show. Last time, Chris or Congress out of the 263 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: good old Emerald Triangle out there in the Bay Area. 264 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: Who do we got today, Well, we got a very 265 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: special guest, Dr Rebecca Siegel who Dr Seagull, Welcome to 266 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one. Thank you for having me. 267 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: And what do we know about her? What do we 268 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: got about this young lady? Well, she's a very exciting background. 269 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: Dr Rebecca Segel is a Board certified adult, child, and 270 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: adolescent psychiatrists. She uh She's graduated from Albert Einstein Medical School, 271 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: where her father also attended, for neurology. She completed her 272 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: psychiatric Residency and Child Adolescents Fellowship at Mount Sineid Hospital 273 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: in New York City. Very impressive and she has recently 274 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: in released a book called The Brain on Cannabis What 275 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: You Should Know about Recreational and Medical Marijuana. I love this. Wow, 276 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: welcome big fancy titles here. Thank you for having me now, 277 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: if Rebecca, it is great to have you. I read 278 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: the book The Brain on Cannabis, and I loved the opening. 279 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: It just catches you right away. You had your first patient, 280 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: they were having troubles with sleep. Your second patient was 281 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: going in through chemotherapy. Your third patient was a first 282 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: responder on nine eleven and developed post traumatic stress. What 283 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: drew you to say? What's with cannabis and how can 284 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: it help out? You know, sleep, pain, anxiety, things like chemotherapy. 285 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: What kind of drew you into want to study more 286 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: about it? Well? You you've asked the person question because 287 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: people were coming to me and you know it was 288 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: out there, but I didn't know enough and I really 289 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: wanted to you know, as a physician, Um, I wanted 290 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: to help my patients, right, but I want to help 291 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: them safely. I want to help I need to understand it. 292 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: And then I want, you know, the goal being to 293 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: help others understand it. Right. So, um, you know the 294 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: first patient I said, patient zero, and she she was 295 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: a long time patient and when you know, a wonderful, 296 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: wonderful person. And when she came in saying her and 297 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: saw me, it was cured. I couldn't believe it, right, Like, 298 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's almost unheard of. And then when it 299 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: was you know what, I said, well, what did you do? 300 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: You know? And she actually showed me a photo of 301 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: a cannabis chocolate bar that she had gotten in Denver 302 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: at that point, right. And so the question she asked 303 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: me was like you know, she didn't she couldn't didn't 304 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: want to bring it back across state lines, right, which 305 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: was a big thing, right because I practiced in New York. 306 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I've lived in New York you know for twenty five years, right, 307 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: and so that was a big question, right, So how 308 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: how do I do this in New York safely? Right? 309 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: And also, um, like you know, edibles are great, you know, 310 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: like what is out there? How do I do this? 311 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: Where do I start? So? I mean like every question 312 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: that you know that that I didn't know the answer to, right, 313 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: And I like to learn and as people kept asking 314 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: me about it, you know, the book didn't it didn't 315 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: start immediately the idea print. But at a certain point 316 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: I said, I'm definitely like having enough people asking me 317 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: about it, and I am learning. I started going to conferences. 318 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: I started to you know, do my research right so 319 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: that I could feel more comfortable. Kind of this is, 320 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, like it's been out there for so long, 321 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: and that you know, like people are curious, and I 322 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: just want people to do it in the right way, 323 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: smart way, you know, being like understanding what they're like, 324 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: what they're doing and getting into and lots of people questions. 325 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: So that was sort of how begin You know, It's 326 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 1: so interesting, doctor, because I love when I hear your 327 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: type of vulnerable story with such high credential medically professionally 328 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: and then learning cannabis and then being vulnerable to say 329 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: I want to learn more so that I can teach more. 330 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Your poetically stated stated that out so well, But I 331 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: just wish so many more medical professionals can be so 332 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: willing to just willingly openly read more, take a look 333 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: more like you did. Because you didn't say, well, maybe 334 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: it's the realist and let me see. I didn't hear that. 335 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: I didn't hear the it's worked for you. It's good, 336 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: it's golden, it's it's got to be true. You probably went, 337 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: let me see, that's a good one. But let me 338 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: see some more, right, Am I hearing this correct from you? 339 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: And then that one may be more that Holy shit, 340 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: it's done a lot for these people on all these scenarios. 341 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Look how many it's helped for them. Look how many 342 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: it's helped for them? Is it everybody? No? But does 343 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: it help more than these freaking pills that I can 344 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: offer these people? Maybe a little better yet for that? 345 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: So it's like so cool when I hear medical professionals 346 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: like yourself walk down that path. And I always love 347 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: to ask, at any point, did you feel the taboo 348 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: inside yourself, like, oh, it's that weed? Well, how could 349 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I not? I mean, I grew up in a time 350 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: where that was the thing. It was bad. It was 351 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, um, your brain on drugs, the Nancy Reagan Yep, 352 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: exactly exactly, And you know so like, I mean, of 353 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: course I like thought about it, but I think my 354 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: curiosity and wanting to learn more and hearing how it 355 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: was helpful for you know, for some it's not helpful 356 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: for at all. But how it really did it was, 357 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, it was an option and I am a 358 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: very curious person and I like to do my research. 359 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: I like and try to understand as best I can, right, 360 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: and so and that like that just opened up tremendous 361 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: Like it just it just got wider and wider because 362 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: like you start looking and there's so much to learn, right, 363 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: And that's where the sort of the book idea came in, 364 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: where we were like, were you ever on the it 365 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: was a step being drug, a step to get to 366 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: other drugs? Would you ever? I mean people say like 367 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: it's a gateway ware that type of argument. I mean, 368 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: how do I feel about it? I think that they're 369 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna be people who say that, and they're gonna 370 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: be people who say that it's absolutely not. And I 371 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: think that, you know, like I sort of I will say, 372 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: as I kind of always do that. I really I'm 373 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: looking for the larger research study used to really prove it, 374 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: because you know, there, I mean, there have been many studies, 375 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: but I think that like cannabis has evolved so much 376 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: over the years, and like you know, the strains and 377 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: the modes of delivery and how people are getting it 378 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: legally and doing you know, doing doing things much smarter. Right, 379 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: you do need to know that it's a lot more potent, 380 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: I think than you know than back in the ages 381 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: when you're paying out the seeds. Right. But but um, 382 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: you know there's like but I think that you know 383 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: for some yes, that it might be a kickoff for 384 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: if you if you have a history of mental illness 385 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: in your family or you know, genetic loaded for that, 386 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: that that may be what you need to be aware of. 387 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: And that's why I want to help people, right, I 388 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: do want I talk to people. I asked them, like, 389 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: what's you know, what's going on? Why? Why do you 390 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, why are you using it? What are you 391 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: what else are you using? Um? You know what is 392 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: your family? His tree? Like? These are all questions that 393 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: that I think a you know, any good doctor would 394 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: would ask a patient coming whether it was medication or 395 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, any type of therapeutic option. Yeah, And I 396 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: think you bring up some great points and that's what 397 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: really drew me to your book. The Brain on Cannabis 398 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: is one Again, you're a critical thinker. You wanted to 399 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: learn more about this, not just hit the easy button 400 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: say hey, if it works for you, go for it. 401 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: Like what is making this happen? What we are doing 402 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: with our organization is we have been approved for an 403 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: institutional review board, a private one and we're working with 404 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: a firm out Israel called Nametic, and we got u 405 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: c Irvine with us as well. And one of the 406 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: things that they talk about in a metic is we 407 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: can't have patients come in who have a history of 408 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: psychosis because they do feel that it could exacerbate it. 409 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: And I know you hit that in your book. You 410 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: want to kind of hit a little bit more about 411 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: some of your learnings because I know you have a 412 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: nice little spot in a book about that. No, I 413 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: think that, like I have seen, you know, cannabis is 414 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: not a one size fits all. It's very individual. I've 415 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: definitely seen it be tremendously helpful for some, but I've 416 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: also seen it right the potential mm hmm, you know 417 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: kick off for extreme anxiety or paranoia, which you know, 418 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: could that lead to the psychlosis maybe, but would psychlosis 419 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: have developed anyway? That's the that's the problem with the 420 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: gateway theory and and the you know the ever like 421 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: if you've started if you, you know, use cannabis, well 422 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: then you're absolutely gonna end up, you know, shooting heroine. 423 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: That is not in my mind where it leads many 424 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: many people will think that way. And you know, I 425 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm so much more open minded than most. I think 426 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: it's because I have three daughters and you know, they're 427 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: in the two of them are in their twenties and 428 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: wanted sixteen. And I've lived through a lot, you know, 429 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: just what I've seen and how I've learned as a parent, 430 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: and I think that that's very much helped me, you know, 431 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: just try to be much more than minded than most. Yeah, 432 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: and that's fantastic, you know what. I love what she 433 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: said there, Joe was, you know, and I feel the 434 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: same way. I would never tell the veteran, you just 435 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: need cannabis and everything's gonna be good. However, I would 436 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: never tell anyone that, but you're like, it would be 437 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: a tool in the tool kit that if it makes 438 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: sense for that individual, that's maybe the way we go. 439 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: And it's funny because you guys, that's what even Blue 440 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: myself have been preaching on this show to everyone. We 441 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: do not believe cannabis is the cure all to everybody's 442 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: issues in scenarios. And once again, as you hear Blue 443 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: and I talk, we're all about the advancement of education 444 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: to figure out how we can medically use this plant 445 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: to medically be used for everyone when needed. So, whether 446 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: you smoke cannabis and that's how you like to use 447 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: the plant, then God bless you smoke whenever you want 448 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: to smoke, you know, I mean, I'm not if you 449 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: if you're a daily smoker, then cool, you're good. And 450 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: if you just want to try, good luck. But I 451 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: want the plant for those I wanted on the shelf, 452 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: like the Adeville. So those who want to use it 453 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: go get it. Those who want to use it for 454 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: this or for these What was that other brain one 455 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: that you said? Can you elaborate on the first brain 456 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: thing that you said? What was that brain thing that 457 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: you said you thought of her on? I didn't understand 458 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: what that brain word was, or like like a like 459 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: a critical thinking or you said, after critical thinking, you 460 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: or your company is doing research on something, and that 461 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: hurt hurt. She wrote on that in the book Oh um, shoot, yeah, 462 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: oh the psychosis in terms of like exacerbating that exacerbating 463 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: was it exacerbating what what what does elaborate more on that? 464 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand that. But here's the here's the thought 465 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: that we want to understand what cannabis does to the brain, 466 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: whether it's short term or whether it's over the long term. Right, 467 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: we want to understand sort of who who You know, 468 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: you can't at this point by just sort of trying it. 469 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: You don't know how someone's going to react to it, right, 470 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: And I've seen good and I've seen bad. So that's 471 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: why I always, you know, sort of say like you know, 472 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: you want to you want to be aware that certainly 473 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: there's no it's it's not the Turrell, it's not you 474 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: know that, there's not there's not. Um there's so many 475 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: options for cannabis. It is. It is an incredible plant, 476 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: you know that. Like they're studying so many different aspects 477 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: of cannabis. Right, it's not all about getting high necessarily, 478 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: not everybody wants to get high. But but isn't it 479 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? You think those who try alcohol for 480 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: the first time and throw up and how great it 481 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: is now they're old, they're drinking wine class you Now 482 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: though I just drink wine. I mean I just have 483 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: a hard shot of whatever, just my glass and my 484 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: big ice cube in it. But I don't do cannabis. 485 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: That's for fucking losers, you know what I mean, those 486 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: fucking guys. I got stone once and college you Oh 487 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: my god, I thought my buddy was gonna piss on me. 488 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: I don't know what I thought whatever, You know what 489 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something stupid they did college or another. 490 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: I don't like it at the doubt, but come on, 491 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: just so funny. I think, I think, I think it's 492 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: a very very good idea, and certainly that the way 493 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: doctors can get behind it is to understand what it 494 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: might do. You know, we've got to study it, what 495 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: it like, what its possibilities are, but also what what 496 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: might happen if there are like, let's say, chronic users. Right, 497 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: you want to know what brain areas are impacted. And 498 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: there have been definitely studies that have been done that 499 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: you know, can can point to the certain areas of 500 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: the brain that might be impacted. Right, But but like 501 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: you said, there's a lot of different things, like lots 502 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: of substances will you know, will cause these types of things. Right, 503 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: Then you've got to know so that people can make 504 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: informed decisions and what helps and what doesn't help. Right, 505 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: So as we have doctors like this studying, and I 506 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: go back to always thinking what you, Brian and poetically 507 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: said to me when I first interviewed you, which was 508 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: your protocoll on from the government, right, the government told 509 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: you a long time ago. Get doctors aboard with you. 510 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: You have doctors. Get colleges aboard you. You've got colleges, 511 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: you got other congressman board. You have all these people 512 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: studying and doing and we have in the country now 513 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: more so you and particularly doing it. You doctor are 514 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: doing it right, So now you do it, you do 515 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: a book, you are more certified grannies. And I love 516 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: what he's done credentially marine wise, but you don't have 517 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: the doctor in front of his name. You do You've 518 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: done those things. So my point is, as we get 519 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: people like you now who are studying it and backing it, 520 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: doing the protocol that you've described to me, what are 521 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: now the quicker steps? Because I feel like she's quicker. 522 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: You're they're getting people like this, she's doing it, you're 523 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: working with Congress. If you get the other like I 524 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: feel like we're jumping to these steps now now, now, 525 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: what do they need? Like she's got this information, what 526 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: else do they need? You know? For me? And Dr Segel, 527 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: let me know what your thoughts are. Really, what Congress 528 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: told me is you need data and you're gonna need 529 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: American doctors backed up. We don't care what the Israelis 530 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: are doing. So Niamtic is working with us and we 531 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: brought u c Irvine on so basically be Niamtic veteran 532 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: uc Irvine. Dr Marcel Dominguez will be our principal investigator 533 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: going through it. What Niamtic told me is like, you 534 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: need to have an institutional review board or no one 535 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: will take this serious. So that was an uphill battle, 536 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: and we did not want to work with the NIA 537 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: program of University of Mississippi. We wanted to use our 538 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: own stuff so we could actually have quality cannabis with 539 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: the appropriate th HC bound. Yeah, and what's great what 540 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: I've totally john agree that, yeah, we're gonna get California. 541 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: We're gonna right here. But when Dr Siegel said, and 542 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: I totally agree, you know, the best delivery system for 543 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: on the medicinal side is either tincture or pill, and 544 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing micro dosing, so it could be 545 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: a one to three ratio. What we see is you 546 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: need a little bit of th HC. It's like your 547 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: engine that's gonna punch into your endocannabinoid system and let 548 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: the medicine kind of go do what it does. So 549 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: that's why as soon as I picked up her book 550 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: and went through and I was like, I'm I'm there, 551 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm right there with her. But anything you want to 552 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: add on to that, is that making sense how I'm 553 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: putting that? Yeah, Well, I look, I think that it's 554 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: like to be the way that this has happened, you 555 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: know where the states have sort of taken the lead 556 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: on it, and certain states are very you know, very 557 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: very pro and other states are very very anti or 558 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: calm right, and so like this this leaves a whole 559 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: huge gap of look, like you said, like federal the 560 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: federal you know where it's just not legal federally, and 561 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: that you know unfortunately, um, you know you need that, 562 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: you need the federal government behind you. And so it's 563 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: it's almost like the card before the worst kind of 564 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: it out there. You know, people are using it. You 565 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: you want to do the right thing, you want to 566 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: study it, you want to be appropriate. You want to 567 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: get you know, like the right teacher or pill and 568 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: have studies that are well designed and controlled and large 569 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: groups of people. But it's very hard to do that, 570 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: especially if the federal government is not behind you, right 571 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: And like you said about the University Mississippi, where that 572 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: was the only UM university that that actually was allowed 573 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: to give UM any kind of research canna, that's unbelievable. 574 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: For years, For years and years and years, that was 575 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: the only place that could actually you know that that 576 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: there cannabis was what was used. It was crazy. I mean, 577 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: I think it came around in nineteen nine. They're the 578 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 1: only ones to have it. And if you look at 579 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: the quality cannabis, and like how you brought up third 580 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: party state testing, that's extremely important. That's why I really 581 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: want to help out here on the legalization side, because 582 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: if people are going to the listen market, they don't 583 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: know what they're putting their body. But we joke if 584 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: we took the night at cannabis and ran through a 585 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: third party state tests or here in California, it would fail. 586 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: It's moldy, it has a ton of twigs. It's like 587 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: six TFC it is I mean literally, I know people 588 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: who have given it to veterans, and the veterans are 589 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: hacking up along. I'm serious, guys have been through enough, 590 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: like now we're gonna put that into their body just 591 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: to prove a point. I'm not a fan of that. 592 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: And that's why it was so paramount for us to 593 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: get a private i RB so we could actually control 594 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: and have our own stuff going into it, manipulate as needed, 595 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: and had just had greater flexibilities. So that was a 596 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: hard one because I went through the same thing of 597 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: six months talking with the i RB and they're like, 598 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: where's your d E A license? Where's this? And thank goodness, 599 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: we had smart doctors out there their end who kind 600 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: of walked that one around and got us through it. Um. 601 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: But you know one thing that gets fantastic, fantastic what 602 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: you're doing. Yeah, you know, listen, it's we're just tired 603 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 1: of what's going on veterans. I mean, too many are 604 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: being killed. I mean one stat that really blew me 605 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: away was Boston University to the study that came out 606 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: in June. Now I added thirteen onto it since we 607 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: had that whole tired debacle in Afghanistan in August where 608 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: he lost thirteen more. But you've since the Global War 609 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: on Terrorism started in two thousand one, we've had seven 610 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: thousand and seventy people die on the battlefield. During that 611 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: same period, we've had thirty one thousand active duty and 612 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: veterans commits suicide. So essentially, it is more dangerous for 613 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: us to be backing ice thing than running through Fallujah, 614 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: are running through the helmet all that stuff that mean, 615 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: then coming home and being alone with your thoughts. Oh, 616 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: it's just that That's what kind of inspired me, because 617 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: you know what really brought home your book to me 618 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: was your first patient. Numbers are crazier, it is insane, 619 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: but I could not sleep. My body was literally at 620 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: war with itself. It was a terrible like I joke 621 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: that kind of know what a little kid feels like, 622 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: where they're crying and they just need to go to sleep, 623 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: but they can't fall asleep. That was me every day 624 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: and eventually got to introduced to cannabis and the first time, 625 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know how many years, my body was 626 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: at peace with itself. And that's when I said, I 627 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: got to spread the good word. And that's why I 628 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: had a opportunity to meet to some members of Congress 629 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: and say, what do you need to get this into 630 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: the v A pharmacy? All right, go get data, go 631 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: get American doctors. Ha ha, good luck. I didn't know 632 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: how we did it, but somehow we did. And here 633 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: we are today and we're talking to great Dr Siegel, 634 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: who wrote an amazing book about this. I encourage everyone 635 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: to go out and get well. Dr Siegel, thank you 636 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. 637 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: Go look up Dr s Goal. Of course, my man 638 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: Brian Buckley, it's Joe Grande and my man Blue will 639 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: be right back after this. We'll be right back with 640 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk 641 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: one oh one. Well, if you're looking for a trust 642 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: in cannabis, see at a Fair Price and the Rocket 643 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: Seeds dot Com on Instagram at rocket Underscore Seeds. Thank 644 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: you so much, Brian and the you have to run 645 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: out of her real quick coming. Rebecca amazing right there. 646 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: Make sure you go check out her book, folks, if 647 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: you are gonna look that up once again. The book 648 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: that she wrote is The Brain on Cannabis. MD. Rebecca Seguel, 649 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: Joe Grande here of course Blue Cannabis talk one on 650 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: one of the world's number one source for everything cannabis, 651 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: who had a step right as well. But I want 652 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: to share this story with you guys, and this one 653 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: right here is cannabis might have more to do with 654 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: your love life than you think. It's an interesting story, folks. 655 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: Cannabis might have more to do with your about life 656 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: than which it. According to a new study that examined 657 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: its association with couple functioning now researchers from Record University 658 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: and now Polokey College. Maybe honestly, they found that marijuana 659 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: users are polic presents more negative behaviors as their approach 660 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: managing conflict with their partners. Moreover, those who use cannabis 661 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: seem to be less aware of an unhealthy relationship. As 662 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: for the results published in the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence. Now, 663 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: of course that's some magazine in our journal that may 664 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: seem like they don't look at things funny, But let 665 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: me continue here. We looked. They looked, of course, at 666 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: the difference indicators of relationships functioning, how satisfied and committed 667 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: people felt about the relationship, their behavior and physiology during 668 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: the laboratory based conflict interactions and their perceptions about their 669 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: conflict decisions or relationships afterwards, said study author Jestic Best Salvatore, 670 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: an associate professor in the Department of Psychiatry at Rutgords 671 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School. Now, researchers asked a hundred 672 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: forty five couples, which isn't that much but it's good 673 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: adecote for their to say, it's a hundred forty five, 674 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: that's not too much but good enough, and which at 675 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: least one of the partners used cannabis, to share how 676 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: regular they use it and how satisfy they are with 677 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: the relationships. About a hundred forty five, let's roll and 678 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: then at ten minute conversation between the partners discussing a 679 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: topic that usually causes a conflict was videotaped to get 680 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: a grasp of their psychological stress responses by measuring their 681 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: heart rate and respiration. I kind of chuckled in they're thinking, 682 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: how many triggers do we all have that somebody can do, 683 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: whether it's cannabis are not. A five minute discussion on 684 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: a topic upon which the couples agree followed. The videos 685 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: were then reviewed by two sets of trained raiders who 686 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: found that cannabis users showed less parasymmetric withdrawal during conversations 687 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: with their partners, resulting in being less flexible in the 688 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: responses to stress well. The Reese's study conducted by the 689 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: University of Mexico found that marijuana can cause changes in 690 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: ego centric concepts, increasing a sense of selfishness. Participants in 691 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: record University study who consumers are who consumed marijuana were 692 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: more critical and demanding, showing less ability to discuss and 693 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: see the positive aspects of the relationships as they sought 694 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: to avoid conflicts. Now increasingly they reported greater satisfaction on 695 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: the subject of how the conflict discussion went. That is 696 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: important to note that this study finding do not mean 697 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: that cannabis use and wholesale goods are bad four relationships. 698 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: It's not saying that at all. Rather, it gives insights 699 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: into how couples can better navigate conflict and come to resolution. 700 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: When you can't see problems that you can't solve them. 701 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: So that's that's the key right there. When you don't 702 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: see problems, you can't solve them. That is the key. 703 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: What they're seeing with this at Rutgers University and using 704 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: candidates once again of a hundred and forty five people. 705 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: It's not that many, but it's a good it's a 706 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: good number to look at. And I love the fact 707 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: that major organizations are doing more and more studies like 708 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: this and looking at publications again from the drug and 709 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: alcohol dependence programs, which are those that are the mad 710 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: mothers against drunk drivers, the whole propaganda. So these people 711 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: are trying to attack and all make everything look at 712 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: So when they do something like this and it kind 713 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: of turns on their face like that, let's they turn 714 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: on the face at that because I look at it 715 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: what it says. Rather, it gives insight and the help 716 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: cut wols can very navigate conflict and come to a resolution. 717 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: When you don't see problems, you can't insolve them. So 718 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: it's a good thing. And Cannabi's comes to good like 719 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: they're in That year was Cannada's Chalk with Blue and 720 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: Joe Brand and rumored this, folks, if nobody else loves you, 721 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: we do, we do there he is. Thank you for 722 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: listening to Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I 723 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.