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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody, Thursday edition of Clay and Bark.

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Speaker 2: Much to discuss.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the debate happened last night and it was a

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Speaker 1: good spectacle, I will say Clay and I watched it

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Speaker 1: here together with our wives in South Florida. We decided

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Speaker 1: to go for flip flops and pj's. We were got

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Speaker 1: at the act, which was the right call. After a

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Speaker 1: big day yesterday, big day at mar A Lago yesterday

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Speaker 1: with number forty five former President Trump. We had such

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Speaker 1: a such a good time with President and look, I

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Speaker 1: really we enjoyed talking to him. One of our favorite

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Speaker 1: moments was after we've been there and he's some of you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I've met him at different, you know, events,

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Speaker 1: and he obviously spends a lot of time going around

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Speaker 1: shaking hands, talking to people out on the campaign trail.

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Speaker 1: But we we thought we'd had a great day at

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Speaker 1: mar A Lago and then we're told wait a second,

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Speaker 1: hold on, hold on you guys, before you go, the

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Speaker 1: president has ordered you and your wives milkshakes. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: we just we sat there for a second, said well,

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Speaker 1: when the former president orders you a milkshake at his pub,

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Speaker 1: like you wait for the milkshake, So I will say

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Speaker 1: though my only disappointment he went to Vanilla.

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Speaker 2: I would have gone chocolate vanilla milkshakes now here.

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Speaker 1: My wife said, you guys should have mentioned this is

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Speaker 1: the only thing that we didn't, just kind of set

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Speaker 1: the scene for the interview stamina. Obviously, Buck is a

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Speaker 1: big discussion. Assuming it's going to be Trump v.

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Speaker 2: Biden.

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Speaker 1: Really, anybody be Biden if he's going to be the nominee.

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Speaker 1: Trump literally walked in from playing eighteen holes of golf

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Speaker 1: zero prep. There was a there was nobody there like, sir,

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Speaker 1: here's your notes. You have to know this, like nothing

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Speaker 1: about like what questions are going to be asked?

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Speaker 2: Anything. Sits down when we've already started.

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Speaker 1: The third hour of the show goes the entire hour

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Speaker 1: obviously with us. And and this is not that people

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Speaker 1: see this, obviously he's not on video, but during every

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Speaker 1: commercial break, interacting with our wives, interacting with the staff

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Speaker 1: that's putting on the show. I think this is really

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Speaker 1: important because we mentioned it, but Biden legitimately could not

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Speaker 1: have done by Biden couldn't go play golf and sit

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Speaker 1: down and talk to us for an hour.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: If he was going to sit down and talk to

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Speaker 1: us for an hour, he would show up with twenty advisors.

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Speaker 2: They would tell us.

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Speaker 1: What we could and could not ask, and he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to do more than like ten minutes. Trump

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Speaker 1: Trump came rolling in the right off the golf cart

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Speaker 1: and sat down and was just being he was in

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Speaker 1: Trump mode. And I think he's one thing that I'll

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Speaker 1: say about this. Look, there's just at the scene for

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Speaker 1: today everybody. There was a lot of really interesting exchanges.

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Speaker 1: Whether you watch the debate or not, I'll just tell

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Speaker 1: you as pure political spectacle, it was interesting. It was

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Speaker 1: the best debate of the debate so fared out. Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump is you know, he did his high laya event.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to see much change in

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Speaker 1: the numbers from the So it's not about that. Maybe

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Speaker 1: some movement among the second tier, but there's really two tiers.

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Speaker 1: There's Trump in one tier and there's everybody else in

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Speaker 1: the other tier. But it was interesting. We made a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a prediction, which was that Nicky Haley

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Speaker 1: and Viveke Ramaswami, we're gonna, yeah, We're gonna go after

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Speaker 1: each other, and that was well, we'll remind if some

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Speaker 1: of you saw it, I'm sure a lot of you didn't,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll tell you all about it.

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Speaker 2: We'll play some of those sound bites for you, because it.

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Speaker 1: Got personal last that on that stage, those two were

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Speaker 1: and we actually watched as well to see after the

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Speaker 1: debate when they went around to shake hands, Chris Christy

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Speaker 1: got a handshake from Vivike. I did not see a

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley. Clearly and Nicky Haley do not like each other. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think that is real. I don't think that's just manufactured.

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Speaker 1: There is a genuine disdain there. And if you watched

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Speaker 1: in the post, I always like to see. Remember, we

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Speaker 1: had Carol Markowitz on after I think the debate out

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Speaker 1: in California and just said, hey, what's the vide during

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Speaker 1: the commercial breaks, who's talking, who's shaking hands? How much

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Speaker 1: interaction movement are we at actually seeing? And right when

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Speaker 1: gave the blowblock blowby to Nicki Haley. She made no

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Speaker 1: effort to interact with him at all, and they kept

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Speaker 1: going forward, and I just to continue with that thought.

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Speaker 1: There's also but there's some We're gonna get to some

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Speaker 1: more news, breaking news out of Israel for you here

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Speaker 1: in just a little bit. They've agreed to a four

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Speaker 1: hour pause in fighting them seeing to let Hamas hostages out.

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Speaker 1: Biden says no long term Gaza cease fire though, so

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Speaker 1: we'll dive into that a little bit more. But that's

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Speaker 1: just some breaking news that I'm just seeing here as

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Speaker 1: I wanted to say though, because we were with Trump

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Speaker 1: last night. I'm sorry yesterday during the day and then

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Speaker 1: last night he was in Hialia for a guy who

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Speaker 1: was facing and we said this to him. We said

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Speaker 1: he is facing a civil trial in New York, the

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Speaker 1: four Criminal Trials outstanding the idea that they would like

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Speaker 1: to if they could certainly destroy his reputation, convict him

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Speaker 1: as a felon, and who knows, maybe they even do

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Speaker 1: believe somehow they could get him in a prison cell.

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Speaker 2: And uh, he's ready for the fight. Man.

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Speaker 1: His attitude, his attitude is incredible for somebody who faces

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Speaker 1: what he faces right now. He seemed very relaxed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think in many ways he's compartmentalized what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: And I think the reality is that he's benefiting from it,

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Speaker 1: and I think he recognizes that he's benefiting it from it.

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Speaker 1: Publicly in terms of the political standing, he is right

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Speaker 1: now the favorite to me buck coming out of debate three.

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Speaker 1: And we should say, if you want to react to

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump yesterday eight hundred two eight two two

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Speaker 1: eight eight two, to me, the biggest takeaway, and we're

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Speaker 1: of you are busy you didn't watch it. I thought

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Speaker 1: NBC did a really good job. The questions were for

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Speaker 1: the most part, very well thought out. They gave candidates

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Speaker 1: times to answer. There was not the super woke posturing

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Speaker 1: It helps when the English spoken is very clear. Yes,

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Speaker 1: But the biggest takeaway to me Buck, and I'm curious

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Speaker 1: what your single biggest takeaway. Tim Scott and Chris Christy

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Speaker 1: are are nice guys. They don't belong on the stage anymore.

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Speaker 1: It is It is a The second tier is a

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Speaker 1: three person yes contest. Now that that's by the time

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Speaker 1: we get to Tuscaloosa next month, it should only be

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Speaker 1: veik Ramaswami, Nicky Hayley, and Ron I think that'll actually

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Speaker 1: be some fireworks. I think that'll be an interesting debate.

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Speaker 1: It helps the debate the fewer people who are on

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Speaker 1: of these dynamics that were playing out. Remember, last night

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Speaker 1: the first thirty forty minutes was heavily on the issues

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Speaker 1: of what to do about Ukraine and what to do

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Speaker 1: through all those implications. But let's start with just because

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Speaker 1: we could start the fireworks and get into the policy.

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Speaker 1: What do you say this was because vivec I find

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Speaker 1: Vivek is the most polarizing of the non Trump can.

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Speaker 1: I think that's actually like, I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that like that, that are they're all in on Trump.

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Speaker 1: But they'll say to me, like, I think DeSantis is

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Speaker 1: you know, they'll say, you know, they don't They're okay

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Speaker 1: with you know, they think Nikki Haley is a smart

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Speaker 1: they tend to have other people with vivic I. I

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Speaker 1: come across people who love the guy and people who

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Speaker 1: really do not like him. You know, he's some And

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Speaker 1: I bring it up just because if that's the perception

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Speaker 1: definitely not a loves the guy. First, Yes she is not.

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Speaker 1: This is this is where things got particularly he did

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Speaker 3: I want to laugh at why Nicki Haley didn't answer

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Speaker 3: your question, which is about looking at families in the eye.

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Speaker 3: In the last debate, she made fun of me for

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Speaker 3: actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using

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Speaker 3: to take care of your family first. The next generation

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Speaker 2: You have her support cropping her up. That's fine, here's

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Speaker 2: the truth. Here's the easy answer. You're just scum.

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Speaker 1: She throws in there over the mic at the debate

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Speaker 1: talked about her adult daughter being on TikTok. I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair game, do you. I mean I say that

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't really bring family in. But the veke on

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Speaker 2: Now yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, as you know, as this audience knows, I'm a

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Speaker 1: to TikTok because I've just learned so many neat tricks

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Speaker 1: you love for cooking my steaks perfectly, and.

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Speaker 2: I like, I'm just gonna tell you it is.

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Speaker 1: It is super addictive, and you know, it gives me

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Speaker 1: a lot of tactical tips for being out on the range.

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Speaker 1: Like there's some great TikTok accounts out there, and people say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: China's gonna get China. I am more worried about Google

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Speaker 1: right now, and I think it's so interesting. People like, well,

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Speaker 1: why are the YouTube is fine? And I'm like, why

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Speaker 1: is YouTube fine? YouTube won't post our interview with Trump? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they want to take They wanted to take your kids

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Speaker 1: away from you if you wouldn't get the vacs. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and fifty five ship navy. That's what he pushed for.

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Speaker 4: He got the three hundred. It's now at two hundred

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Speaker 4: and ninety one. Is that big enough to deter and

433
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Speaker 4: if necessary, defeat an invasion of Taiwan?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: As a very specific question, and then he ended up,

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Speaker 1: I don't we don't even need to hear. But he

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Speaker 1: kept pushing for this the specific number, you know, sub

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Speaker 1: three hundred Reagan six hundred.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: There are some things here that should be taken into account.

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Speaker 1: One play is that not all ships are the same. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so the ship number, I mean you could have you know,

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Speaker 1: the the SS like Mino or what.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that what it was that got Mino? Yes, Billigan's Island,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could have a very minor ship, or

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Speaker 1: you could have a billion dollar Erican. We're in Miami

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Speaker 1: right now, Buck, and I walked by a harbor. There

449
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Speaker 1: is a lot of difference between some of those yachts.

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Speaker 1: There are boats, and there are yachts.

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Speaker 2: You know, there are there are sailing there are.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are are schooners and there are sailing ships.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of a weird question in that respect too.

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Speaker 1: I think it gets a little bit more. But here's

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Speaker 1: what I actually was trying to take from this. There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of time spent about, you know, how

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Speaker 1: much money we should be giving. I didn't hear anyone

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Speaker 1: last night, including the VIC, and by all means, I'm

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Speaker 1: going on memory, so I could be wrong say that

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Speaker 1: they would cut off funding for Ukraine. THEVEC positions himself

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Speaker 1: as the guy who is opposed to the establishment on

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Speaker 1: this question, and we will track down his response on

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Speaker 1: this because this is along the same thing, but he's

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Speaker 1: being asked about funding, is being asked about how big

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Speaker 1: the navy should be. He said something about how corrupt

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Speaker 1: Ukraine is and how it's okay, sure, I mean, then

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Speaker 1: that's interesting to bring into the discussion. And Ukraine Democrats

468
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Speaker 1: have created this like Ukraine Utopia, where it's this amazing

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Speaker 1: democracy and if it goes away like the whole world

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Speaker 1: has fallen apart, that's hysteria and that's nonsense. But I

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Speaker 1: did not hear a single person on that stage say

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Speaker 1: that they would stop effectively being the Arsenal and bank

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Speaker 1: for Zelenski's Ukrainian resistance against Russia.

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Speaker 2: Am I missing that?

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Speaker 1: I mean that there was, which I think is interesting

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Speaker 1: because there was repidation to one hundred percent stand with

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Speaker 1: Ukraine as is the I still think the Democrat perspective,

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Speaker 1: we see what I mean, they all dance around it

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Speaker 1: because they say, oh, we need accountability for the funds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, we need accountability. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: give them the money or not? Is the real question?

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Speaker 2: You got to keep funding them because it's already in

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Speaker 2: the hundreds of billions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's maybe one area where the pivot.

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Speaker 1: So I thought the start of the debate that everybody

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Speaker 1: on the stage looked phenomenal. That was pretty good advertisement

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Speaker 1: for the Republican Party as it pertained to Israel in particular,

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Speaker 1: because everybody speaks stridently as one voice to defend the

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Speaker 1: right of Israel to defend itself in the Republican Party,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have this cacophony of of Hamas and

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Speaker 1: Palestinian sympathizers like the Democrat Party would have if they

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Speaker 1: were having a real debate on the stage right now,

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Speaker 1: But they didn't link them and they didn't allow that

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Speaker 1: discussion because I do think the Speaker of the House

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Speaker 1: has done a good job in saying, hey, we want

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Speaker 1: to fund Israel, but this is really not connected in

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Speaker 1: our minds to what's going on with Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Nikki Haley, Chris Christy uh and Tim Scott, I would say,

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Speaker 1: are definitively still in the We got to do as

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Speaker 1: much as we can to protect Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: But they don't really want to say it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's gotten less politically palatable. DeSantis Is, I

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Speaker 1: would say in the middle they, to his credit, has

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Speaker 1: been the most aggressive in saying I don't really think

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Speaker 1: that Ukraine is our battle. He criticizes Ukraine, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: I come across this a lot, but people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know what we're doing with Ukraine. Ukraine's corrupt. Why

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Speaker 1: are we giving you a krown this money? And you

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Speaker 1: see this with pot with some of the people on

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Speaker 1: the right, But you say, okay.

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Speaker 2: Would you stop, would you stop funding?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean that would be they don't want to say

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Speaker 2: they don't want to say that. They don't want to

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Speaker 2: say that, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the people who want to keep the funding going

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Speaker 1: like to put the oh, we need accountability. And there

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Speaker 1: was something else too, basically putting these like prefacing this

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Speaker 1: a little bit, putting in these additional measures. The fundamental

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Speaker 1: question is are we going to continue to have a

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Speaker 1: blank check approach to funding a Ukrainian fight that is

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Speaker 1: currently in stalemate with Russia? Is that what we are

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Speaker 1: going to do under a republic the next presidency, assuming

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Speaker 1: it's a Republican I think that everyone hedges a little

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Speaker 1: bit on this one, is what. I think Trump comes

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Speaker 1: in and he's just like, I'll end it. I'll sit

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Speaker 1: down with Paton, we'll hash out an agreement, we'll end it.

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Speaker 1: So that's his position. You can say you like that

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Speaker 1: or not, but that's his position. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are nervous there because DeSantis got caught in

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Speaker 1: an early interview saying that Ukraine was a territorial dispute,

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Speaker 1: uh and the way that he phrased that led to

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Speaker 1: him getting attacked. I think the donor class frankly is

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Speaker 1: far more supportive of the money being spent in Ukraine

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Speaker 1: than the average base of the Republican Party is. So

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Speaker 1: I thought that was an example of one that they

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Speaker 1: were trying to fin and not have to.

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Speaker 2: To directly address.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: One more thing, buck that stood out to me. But

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Speaker 1: they seem very kind to DeSantis.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not now, I mean.

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Speaker 1: He made the heal job, but I mean that's that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a grade school thing.

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Speaker 6: Though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that really.

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Speaker 1: I think now the analysis starts to become and and

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Speaker 1: this is maybe at the bottom of this hour we

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Speaker 1: can have a discussion about it in earnest. Where would

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Speaker 1: these people's supporters go if they dropped out? For instance,

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Speaker 1: I think if Tim Scott dropped out, Trump told us yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's correct. I think Tim Scott would

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Speaker 1: endorse Donald Trump, and so most Tim Scott supporters, I

555
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Speaker 1: think would end up aligned with Donald Trump. Chris Christy.

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Speaker 1: If Chris Christy dropped out, none of his supporters to

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Speaker 1: the extent, you know, let's say both those guys, let's

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Speaker 1: give him round above and say they have five percent

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Speaker 1: none of Chris Christie's support. I don't believe would go

560
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Speaker 1: to Trump. It's a very anti Trump support. So would

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Speaker 1: Chris Christian line up behind Ron DeSantis or Nicky Haley?

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably the choice that he would find

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Speaker 1: himself in. And it seemed to me that there was

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Speaker 1: a decent amount of rapport between Christy and Nicky Haley.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like the Veake was actually very respectful of DeSantis.

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Speaker 1: But my natural inclination is almost all of the Vake

567
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Speaker 1: support would go to Trump. Now here's the challenge, right,

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley, I think none of her support by and

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Speaker 1: large would go to Trump, whereas I think all of

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Speaker 1: DeSantis's support would go to Trump. The reason why I

571
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Speaker 1: bring this up is if your goal is to beat Trump,

572
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Speaker 1: how does the math.

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Speaker 2: Work as you analyze this? Do you agree with my like?

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Speaker 2: I think I think that based on.

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Speaker 1: The numbers we're seeing it, it's almost.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Now whoever gets the swing here or there, it looks

578
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Speaker 1: like it's irrelevant that Trump has gone such a big lee.

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Speaker 2: So that's the question I'm asking.

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Speaker 1: Is there math that would lead to somebody being able

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Speaker 1: to beach It would be right, It would be math

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Speaker 1: that you would have to be able to do so

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Speaker 1: to speak the numbers would like in the next month, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what if you look at this over the

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Speaker 1: next three or four months and going into Super Tuesday

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Speaker 1: and all that, I think it's too slow for it

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Speaker 1: to matter. Yeah, you would have to have these changes occur.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to have people dropping out before Christmas. I

589
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Speaker 1: don't I don't think anyone on that stage, with the

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Speaker 1: possible exception of Chris Christy, is going to drop.

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Speaker 2: Out before at least at least Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I would say, bucket is after this debate,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens in December. Again, I think

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Speaker 1: really it should just be DeSantis, Vivek, and Nicki Haley

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Speaker 1: on the stage in Tuscaloosa, Alabama for the next Republican debate.

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Speaker 1: The only game changer I can see is if Nicky

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Speaker 1: Haley and Ron DeSantis agreed to join together on a

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Speaker 1: unity ticket and they did it right now. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: what I mean by it would have to be. It

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Speaker 1: would have to be all in. You would have to

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Speaker 1: sit down, change and you would have to challenge on

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Speaker 1: that is. One of them would have to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm the number, I'm the president, and the other one

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Speaker 1: would have to be the vice president. That's the only

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Speaker 1: look I mean, And you guys out there listening, tell

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Speaker 1: me if you disagree. Right, just look at this strategically,

607
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Speaker 1: not as a die hard supporter of any particular candidate.

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Speaker 1: Just look at it from as a math equation. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at right now, right the latest

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Speaker 1: as of November sixth. Here real clear politics. Oh, this

611
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Speaker 1: is actually a trip. This is true, and really what

612
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Speaker 1: we have to have is the Iowa, Iowa and New Hampshire.

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Speaker 2: Here's what you could say.

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Speaker 1: Pretty Trump is at forty four right now, and Trafalgar

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Speaker 1: Trafalgar is are very generally considered a pro Trump, not disparaging. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a pro Trump or or you know, lean lean Trump,

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Speaker 1: is what I should say. In the polling, Trump is

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Speaker 1: at forty four. DeSantis and Hanley together would be thirty three. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you had a unity the two of them

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Speaker 1: and you got to a thirty three or thirty three

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Speaker 1: percent support, that would be But I think, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So here here's my I don't know

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Speaker 1: that anybody has the uh the ability to put together

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Speaker 1: this equation. Nine in this by the way, but Tim

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Speaker 1: Scott's holding on to thy pretty sizable chunk of folks.

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Speaker 1: I think Tim Scott is going to endorse Trump, and

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Speaker 1: I think he'll do it sooner. Right then you get

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Speaker 1: Trump over fifty, and that's see, this is where this

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Speaker 1: is where the math. This is where the math becomes

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Speaker 1: interesting because I think the only way that you could

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Speaker 1: look I don't think Nicky Haley or Ron DeSantis are

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Speaker 1: going to drop out, right. I think the only way

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Speaker 1: that anybody could give Trump a run at this point

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Speaker 1: if you look at the polling is if Nicky Haley

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Speaker 1: and Ron DeSantis agreed to have a unity ticket designed

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Speaker 1: to beat Trump, could you.

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Speaker 2: I mean they would have to do like a coin

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Speaker 2: flip or something there would.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of them would ever buy temperament or career

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Speaker 1: aspiration except the Vice president. Well, it would have to be.

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Speaker 1: That's where you look at it from Trump's perspective. If

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it from Trump's perspective. Last night, the

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Speaker 1: Veke winning that debate, in my opinion Forveke one, I

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Speaker 1: understand that could be polarizing.

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Speaker 2: Some people might not.

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Speaker 1: That's the best result for Trump because it maintains kind

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Speaker 1: of a three headed monster where there isn't somebody who

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Speaker 1: is like, like, coming out of this debate.

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Speaker 2: Ramaswam is only at five in this Trafalgar Oh, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: this is that? I pardon me. I thought I was

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Speaker 2: looking at the average. This is Jiwa. It's just Iowa. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so just Iowa.

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Speaker 1: The des Moines register came out, they had Trump at

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Speaker 1: like forty three if you combined, and I think DeSantis

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Speaker 1: If you combined Desantus and Haley in an Iowa joint ticket,

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Speaker 1: think there's willing to do it, and I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna need to see a result from Iowa and New

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Speaker 2: Truth after Truth, you can handle the truth. Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton. Third hour of Playing Back kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you up to speed with the

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Speaker 1: latest on the Israel Hamas war here. Israel is expanding

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Speaker 1: daily combat pauses colect civilians flee. This is according to

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Speaker 1: the White House front page right now in the New

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Speaker 1: York Times. So pauses during the conflict to allow civilians

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Speaker 1: to get out of certain areas. This is not according

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Speaker 1: to the White House and Israeli authorities. This is not

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Speaker 1: a total this is not a ceasefire. It is very

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Speaker 1: limited in duration. We shall see how this affects what's

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Speaker 1: going on here and the changes that may occur in

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Speaker 1: the combat situation on the ground. But there's another story

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to make sure it was getting reported

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Speaker 1: on by some solid sources before we talked about it here.

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Speaker 1: But I see, you know Daily Mail has picked this up,

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Speaker 1: and I want to share this headline with you. Israel

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Speaker 1: demands answers from CNN, Associated Press and Reuter's overclaims that

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Speaker 1: freelance photographers were embedded with hamas to cover the January

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Speaker 1: of the October seventh attack. These journalists were accomplices in

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Speaker 1: crimes against humanity, is the quote that is here. So

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Speaker 1: there are allegations out there, and based on some of

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Speaker 1: the photography and some of the video that is circulating,

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Speaker 1: it would seem that these are certainly credible allegations that

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Speaker 1: there were and this is from the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 1: Israel's office.

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Speaker 2: Putting this out.

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Speaker 1: That they quote view with utmost gravity that photojournalists working

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Speaker 1: with international media joined in covering the acts of murder

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Speaker 1: perpetrated by Hamas on October seventh, that these journalists were

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Speaker 1: accomplices in crimes against humanity and contrary to professional ethics.

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Speaker 1: So it does seem that there were people that were

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Speaker 1: that were journalists, and some who have worked for international

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Speaker 1: news organizations freelance on a freelance basis, but they've worked

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Speaker 1: with them who were with and therefore had advanced knowledge

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Speaker 1: of the October seventh attack on Israel and were.

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Speaker 2: Documenting, at least in part some of what happened there.

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Speaker 1: So that is a that is a pretty shocking admission.

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Speaker 2: But you know, journalism doesn't really have much in the

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Speaker 2: way of ethics to speak of these days anyway.

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Speaker 1: But this goes well beyond the normal complaints that we

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Speaker 1: have about journalism. This is something that is a stunningly awful,

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Speaker 1: awful act if they were along with them. Now, Clay,

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Speaker 1: the debates, the fights, and there have been fights.

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Speaker 2: In fact, actually last night did you see this. There

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Speaker 2: was a.

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Speaker 1: Showing of Israeli actress Gala Gado wonder Woman. We should

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Speaker 1: give her credit just for a moment for people out

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Speaker 1: there who are not aware. Gal Gado was a member

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Speaker 1: of the Israeli Defense Forces, as people who are all

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Speaker 1: in Israel serve, by and large, so she plays wonder woman.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you have probably watched that she has

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Speaker 1: been and again it's celebrities, But of all of the

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Speaker 1: celebrities out there, I'm not sure that anyone has been

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Speaker 1: more outspoken than gal Gado in the Hollywood realm over

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Speaker 1: Israel's right to defend itself and calling out the horrible

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Speaker 1: terror attack and slaughter for what it was. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of tiptoeing up to this, a lot of

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Speaker 1: attempts to obfuscate, to try to equivocate. That is not

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Speaker 1: occurred at all with gal Gado. So to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 1: she was showing screening some of this horrible footage to

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Speaker 1: try to combat people in LA who are saying this

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Speaker 1: is some sort of denialism. This didn't actually occur. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so in La there she just she had a theater

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Speaker 1: she's saying, you know, inviting people to come and see

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Speaker 1: for themselves. What happened on the October seventh attack and

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Speaker 1: the atrocities that were committed by Hamas. There was fighting outside,

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Speaker 1: there's video of it circulating. There's some some chaos out

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Speaker 1: there from people who, I think, it's increasingly clear, aren't

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Speaker 1: just sympathetic to the Palestinian costs, but are actually pro Hamas.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They think that Hamas is legitimate, that Hamas is fighting

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Speaker 1: a resistance battle, and Hamas the entity, the terrorist group

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Speaker 1: deserves some level of support. And I want to point

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Speaker 1: out that this this just got on my radar this morning.

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Speaker 1: We played something out Doug Murray. It was British, but

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Speaker 1: I think he's a Fox contributes on Fox for Now.

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Speaker 1: He's a really smart guy, really worthwhile analyst on a

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Speaker 1: whole range of issues.

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Speaker 2: He was talking to Piers Morgan.

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Speaker 1: About this, about this issue, and I want you to

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Speaker 1: hear this exchange because this is a very important formulation

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Speaker 1: or very important context to put the issue in play.

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Speaker 6: It you don't honestly think they're all pro amass these people, well,

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Speaker 6: I think that anyone who, for instance, chanced things like

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Speaker 6: from the River to the Sea is in fact yes,

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Speaker 6: but they're all doing it's criminally ignorant.

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Speaker 2: Well they are.

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Speaker 6: I mean there's masses of videos of the marching past

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Speaker 6: Westminster Raby last week saying exactly that. But they're not,

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Speaker 6: and there are lots of people. Okay, okay, Well here's

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Speaker 6: a challenge. Okay, Well, here's a challenge, peers. If you

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Speaker 6: decided to go on some kind of march, and in

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Speaker 6: week one you discovered that you had the BNP along

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Speaker 6: your site, calling, for instance, for the murder of all

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Speaker 6: black people, would do you not wonder whether or not

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Speaker 6: you should go a week two? Would you not drop

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Speaker 6: out by about week three? I just thought so I would.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question, and yes I would. I can

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Speaker 2: I of say.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to Pierce's credit, He's kind of like, uh,

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Speaker 1: you got me there, right and this but see this

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Speaker 1: is very important and I give Doug Murray total credit

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Speaker 1: for this because people like to play this game, including

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Speaker 1: members of Congress. Oh I'm not pro I'm not pro

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Speaker 1: Hamas or I'm not with all that stuff. I just

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Speaker 1: want civilian casualties limited. For Palestini, he's like, hold on

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Speaker 1: a second. You go to any of these big marches,

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Speaker 1: you go to any of these places where there's a

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Speaker 1: big gathering of people who are, you know, critical of

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Speaker 1: Israel and are pro postinting in some context, and there

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Speaker 1: are people who are shouting for basically the murder of

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Speaker 1: Jews and the eradication of the Israeli state.

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Speaker 2: If it was anyone other than Jews and Israel.

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Speaker 1: He's saying, wouldn't you be like, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be anywhere near these people? Like, at what point do

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Speaker 1: you take some blame or do you do you realize

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Speaker 1: there's some contagion effect here of the vile ideology of

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Speaker 1: the pro Hamas people that you're standing next to in

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Speaker 1: these protests saying, you know.

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Speaker 2: Free Palestine.

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's a fabulous question, and I would

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Speaker 1: just point out and I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You may have seen.

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Speaker 1: I have not seen an update on the protester, the

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Speaker 1: Jewish man who was killed at a Palestinian rally. I've

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Speaker 1: seen very little media coverage of it. Compare that to Charlottesville,

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Speaker 1: where one person died at Charlottesville.

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Speaker 2: Tragic.

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Speaker 1: Certainly she didn't deserve that outcome, But every single person

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Speaker 1: listening to us right now has heard about the tragedy

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Speaker 1: of Charlottesville one hundred times, two hundred times. If you

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Speaker 1: just consume media. You heard Joe Biden claim that it

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Speaker 1: was the entire basis for when he decided to run

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Speaker 1: for president. Has Joe Biden commented on the Israeli individual

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Speaker 1: in LA who was killed.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was very quick to comment when a young

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Speaker 1: kid was murdered by a crazy man and they said

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Speaker 1: it was Islamophobia. In fact, they asked about it. Last night, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I thought, credit to Douglas Murray, and that's a great

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Speaker 1: exchange with Pierce Morgan. I thought last night, if you

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Speaker 1: were take yourself out of your political beliefs, whatever you believe,

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Speaker 1: you're listening to us right now. If you put on

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Speaker 1: that debate and watch the first thirty minutes, honestly, you

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Speaker 1: watch the whole thing. But if you watch the first

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes and you were not a particularly political person,

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Speaker 1: I thought the Republican, all five of the candidates response

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Speaker 1: on Israel was superb splendid, strident, full of moral authority.

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Speaker 1: Right outside where we're broadcasting from right now, Buck, your neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: I walked home after that debate. There are the posters

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Speaker 1: that are affixed to all of the light poles here.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't seen those personally myself. I had seen the

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Speaker 1: story Kaarine. Jean Pierre obviously couldn't manage to find out.

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Speaker 1: But you heard in South Florida a huge Jewish population.

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Speaker 1: Every day I'm hearing from more people who are saying

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Speaker 1: the inability of the Democrat Party to condemn true evil

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Speaker 1: is an incredible stain upon their party. I think it's

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Speaker 1: far worse than anything that happened on January sixth as

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Speaker 1: a stain on the country, like not being able to

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Speaker 1: condemn evil terror attacks designed to eradicate Jews.

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Speaker 2: In what way on the Democrat Party?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would want to know, in what way

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Speaker 1: is what Hamas did any less evil than the acts

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Speaker 1: of ISIS or al Qaeda.

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Speaker 2: Or these other groups. It is no less you know.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see someone try to make that argument,

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Speaker 1: because I think they would make fools of themselves if

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Speaker 1: they did. But this is why, again, the Doug Murray

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Speaker 1: point here is so important. People who are pushing for

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Speaker 1: certain beliefs hide in the mob and say, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not as bad. Maybe it's only a few voices that

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Speaker 1: are saying that. Yeah, maybe it's only a few voices

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Speaker 1: and it's not a few, by the way, but it's

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Speaker 1: a percentage, it's a chunk. It's a group of US.

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Speaker 1: If at these Palestinian protests, for example, who are saying

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Speaker 1: from the River to the Sea, Well, you're associating with

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Speaker 1: those people. They are supportive of Hamas, you are shoulder

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Speaker 1: to shoulder with them in this debate.

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Speaker 2: What does that say about you? Like, you could have.

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Speaker 1: Taken the position after nine to eleven you could have said.

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Speaker 1: Someone could have said, and by the way, there were

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Speaker 1: some people who said, this is because it happened at

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Speaker 1: my college. Someone stood up and from the Nole College,

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Speaker 1: a professor and said, this is what happens when you

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Speaker 1: make people angry.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget that.

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Speaker 1: But there were people who could have said, you know

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Speaker 1: this nine to eleven, you know, right after nine eleven,

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Speaker 1: say this is the result of US imperialism and US

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Speaker 1: bases in Saudi and basically parrotying Saudi talking point I mean, sorry,

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Speaker 1: al Qaida talking points about the Saudi Peninsula, and then

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Speaker 1: say but I don't agree with al Qaeda's methods. And

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Speaker 1: you would have said, well, so you're aligned with al

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Speaker 1: Qaida on everything, except you didn't. You don't agree with

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Speaker 1: the running the planes into our buildings and murdering thousands

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Speaker 1: of people stuff this time, but you agree with all

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Speaker 1: their grievances. There's a lot of theF that goes on

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Speaker 1: with this Palestinian and Hamas situation where it's well, you're

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Speaker 1: with all the.

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Speaker 2: Pro Hamas people.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you won't say you like this situation, but you

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Speaker 1: won't condemn Hamas and you agree with all of Hamas's grievances. Well,

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Speaker 1: what I thought we need to get Douglas Murray on

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Speaker 1: the show, and maybe Piers too. I think we've had

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Speaker 1: peers on. But what I thought was so interesting about

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Speaker 1: that was credit He knew that he was checkmated, and

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Speaker 1: I was appreciated that sometimes, like, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what, that's a good argument check me.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I love about the argument he made Buck

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Speaker 1: is he said more than once so, And I think

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Speaker 1: this is important to kind of contextualize. You might show

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Speaker 1: up in this day and age for one event and

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Speaker 1: it turns into something else. But if you went the

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Speaker 1: first time and everybody's chanting from the river to the sea,

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Speaker 1: and you see people who have clear anti Jewish perspectives,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't show up for the second and the third rally,

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Speaker 1: and that to me, he's even giving a pass. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's say you don't agree with From the River

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Speaker 1: to the Sea, but you actually support the Palestinian people.

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Speaker 1: When you showed up the first time and you saw

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Speaker 1: everyone chanting that, wouldn't you not want to go back.

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Speaker 2: To second and third time?

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Speaker 1: That's the compelling part of the argument, because you could,

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Speaker 1: I think in this day and age, you could end

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Speaker 1: up at a rally or a protest and the people

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Speaker 1: that are advocating for something they might be different than

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Speaker 1: what you anticipated.

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Speaker 2: You go back to second and third, fourth time.

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Speaker 1: You're endorsing what they're saying, even if you explicitly are

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Speaker 1: not saying I agree.

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Speaker 2: That's a you know.

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Speaker 1: You could say you know, and I saw this when

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Speaker 1: I used to cover in the very early days of

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Speaker 1: my immediate time the Occupy Wall Street movement. There were

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Speaker 1: some of these anti cop movements actually that would show

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Speaker 1: up to them and they would say horrible things about police.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could say the first time, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: they were going to say that all cops are racist murderers.

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Speaker 1: But if you'd gone to the third anti cop rally,

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Speaker 1: I think you know what you're getting in that right,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I think that that's

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Speaker 1: why that point hit home. We'll get into into more

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Speaker 1: of this coming back here in a second. And hey,

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Speaker 1: credit to Wonder Woman. By the way, Gal Gadot, Yes

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome back in Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: This qualifies.

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Speaker 1: I think his major breaking news not just for people

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Speaker 1: from West Virginia, but long time West Virginia politician, probably

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Speaker 1: the final Democrat in the state that could win anything.

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Speaker 1: Joe Manchin has announced that he will not be running

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Speaker 1: for re election in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Why is this a big deal?

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Speaker 1: Well, this means it's a ninety I would say ninety

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Speaker 1: five ninety eight percent chance something like that super high

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Speaker 1: that Republicans are going to pick up a Senate seat

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Speaker 1: in West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: That would make things fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: And if we have a Republican president, that means Republicans

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Speaker 1: would have control of the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Also, it means even.

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Speaker 1: In states we got Arizona Carry Lakes running, But right

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Speaker 1: now Republicans are favored in Ohio. I believe there's three

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Speaker 1: or four really good candidates in the Republican primary race

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Speaker 1: there that everybody's kind of excited about. That's going to

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Speaker 1: be a battle. And then Montana, things could look pretty

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Speaker 1: good there as well. But I want you to hear

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Speaker 1: from Joe Manchin yourself. He just announced this in the

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Speaker 1: last few minutes that not running for reelection. This is

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Speaker 1: what that sounded like.

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Speaker 7: After months of deliberation and long conversation with my family,

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Speaker 7: I believe in my heart of hearts that I've accomplished

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Speaker 7: what I set out to do for West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: I've made one of the toughest.

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Speaker 7: Decided that I will not be running for reelection to

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Speaker 7: the United States Senate. But what I will be doing

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Speaker 7: is traveling the country and speaking out to see if

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Speaker 7: there is an interest in creating a movement to mobilize

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Speaker 7: the middle and bring Americans together.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Buck, this is big.

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Speaker 1: The way he answered that, there has been talk that

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Speaker 1: he may run as a third party candidate as a

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Speaker 1: part of this no labels ticket. That would be devastating

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Speaker 1: to Joe Biden because I think there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people listening to us right now who you may

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Speaker 1: not agree with everything Joe Manchin said, but you're not

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Speaker 1: going to be choosing between Joe Manchon and Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: and the event Trump's nominee, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: Democrats might peel off and support Joe Mansion in the

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Speaker 1: event that he were running as a third party candidate.

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Speaker 2: But this is a big pickup.

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Speaker 1: Republicans get the Senate seat, and now maybe Joe Manchin

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Speaker 1: goes out and bollocks is up Joe Biden's re election chances.

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Speaker 1: But you think he's gonna really run or is he

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Speaker 1: just going to try to get some attention and you know,

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Speaker 1: create some organization that he can raise money for that'll

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Speaker 1: pay for his food and lodging as he travels around

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know, because you start

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Speaker 1: to get to the realities, as we've discussed of third

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Speaker 1: party candidacies are there are challenges, and Democrats have gotten

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Speaker 1: wiser to them than ever because of what happened with

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Speaker 1: the Green Party back in twenty sixteen and Jill Sneyde.

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Speaker 1: So they've made it a lot of states where the

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Speaker 1: Democrats control the legislature, they've made it much more difficult

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Speaker 1: to get on the ballot, and there are legal challenges.

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Speaker 1: Basically you have to have an organization and a war

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Speaker 1: chest to really do it. Yeah, because it'd be a

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Speaker 1: third party candidate who's not on the ballot in places,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not really good. Labels raised tens of

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars with the idea that they're going to

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Speaker 1: have a middle of the road candidate. There's also been

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Speaker 1: talk and this is why what I thought would happen.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that's kind of what you

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Speaker 1: need to do to really no doubt that Larry Hogan,

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Speaker 1: who is the former Republican governor of Maryland, could be

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Speaker 1: the choice. Maybe they run Larry Hogan and Joe Manchin together,

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Speaker 1: but I think if Joe Manchin were the candidate, that

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Speaker 1: would actually be super beneficial to Donald Trump. Or anybody

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Speaker 1: else who's the Republican nomine eagle because you think he'd

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Speaker 1: pull conservative Democrats away from Biden. Because right now the

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Speaker 1: third party issue is that RFK Junior, who has said

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Speaker 1: he is going third party, would probably pull more votes

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Speaker 1: away from Donald Trump than he would from Joe I

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Speaker 1: think that's right.

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Speaker 2: I believe that too. I've thought that all along.

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Speaker 1: I thought that the enthusiasm for RFK Junior has always

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Speaker 1: been much more from the right.

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Speaker 2: And you can tell.

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Speaker 1: People, we got people when you asked about Tucker yesterday

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Speaker 1: as the VP for Trump, and I'm just gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I maybe have some inside knowledge here that that's not

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Speaker 1: going to happen, but if it was an interesting idea

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Speaker 1: and certainly just goes to the level of respect that

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Speaker 1: Trump has for for Tucker Carlson in general. But you look,

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Speaker 1: I think at and I completely lost My train of

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Speaker 1: thought was, Oh, sorry, RFK Junior. Rfkjun That's the one

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Speaker 1: question I wish I had asked that. I forgot to

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Speaker 1: ask whether Trump would consider him. And it wasn't just

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Speaker 1: that you thought about this. We have people writing in there, YEA,

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Speaker 1: why din't you ask what RFK Junior into this?

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Speaker 2: I just say I.

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Speaker 1: Mean for Trump to put a not just a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: but a Kennedy Democrat on his ticket. I know there

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Speaker 1: are some people who think that's really cool and interesting

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Speaker 1: and would change things up and would shake up the field.

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Speaker 1: There are also a lot of people would say, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm voting Republican, but I'm getting a Democrat vice president.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know that in the earliest days, you go back

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Speaker 1: to the founding, we had a different, different structure for

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Speaker 1: how vice presidents were were. They weren't really chosen, they

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Speaker 1: were kind of elected. But that was a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: People are used to having you vote Republican, you get

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Speaker 1: a Republican president and a Republican vice president. Well, so

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Speaker 1: this is you don't hear me say it too often,

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Speaker 1: or maybe you should listen to my wife. I say

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Speaker 1: it all the time. I screwed that one up. That's

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Speaker 1: a question I should have asked. And when we finished

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Speaker 1: the interview, you go back through your head and you're

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Speaker 1: like okay, And I was like, dang it, I meant

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Speaker 1: to ask about R. FK Junior too, and and I

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Speaker 1: whiffed on that one. So I'm sure we'll have Trump

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Speaker 1: again on I wish I had remembered to ask, because

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Speaker 1: I think I said I would ask on this show

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Speaker 1: does a whiff for me.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're not perfect.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get you get an interview, and like you know,

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Speaker 1: Trump is so entertaining at times. I never thought to

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Speaker 1: ask him about the about the mug shot buck, but

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Speaker 1: off air him telling the story of how the mug

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Speaker 1: shot got taken was so funny to me that I said,

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Speaker 1: oh man, we got to let him tell this story

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Speaker 1: for the audience. And so you end up in any

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Speaker 1: interview sometimes following the direction of the of the answers.

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Speaker 2: More than this is what I was saying.

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Speaker 1: I wish sometimes the moderators would do follow where the

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Speaker 1: story goes in terms of the answers as opposed to

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Speaker 1: what your script shows that you and do you have

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Speaker 1: your your mugshot your Trump mugshot t shirt play because

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Speaker 1: we definitely got I mentioned the vanilla milkshakes which were

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Speaker 1: which actually were delicious.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but we have mugshots. We do have mugshot T shirt.

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Speaker 1: So we got some cool, some cool gear, well at

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Speaker 1: least a piece of cool gear from it. The fact

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Speaker 1: that he got that mug shot in one take, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's just a man who spent his whole life

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Speaker 1: in the public eye getting photos taken of him.

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Speaker 2: He knew it was game time, and he put on

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Speaker 2: his game for it.

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Speaker 1: I would not have expected Trump to be the perfect

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Speaker 1: Instagram model in that situation. My you know, my mugshot

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Speaker 1: would be like, you know, rumpled looking PhD student who

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Speaker 1: needs a shave, who's like terrified at the thought of

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Speaker 1: facing law enforcement. You know, like it would not be

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Speaker 1: a good I'm not a mugshot guy. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they give you good lighting on the mugshot, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Do you ever see that website where

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Speaker 1: they just had really good looking people mugshots?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that before?

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Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, every now and then somebody gets famous

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Speaker 1: for being so incredible, incredibly good looking in their mugshot,

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Speaker 1: and they had a website of all those people, guys

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Speaker 1: and girls. Gary Ucy had a particularly oh that was

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Speaker 1: a rough one or no, was it to Nick Nolty,

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Speaker 1: That's who it was. They had quite a mugshot, not

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Speaker 1: a favorabley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Trump's mugshot came out very well.

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Speaker 1: So there's that are brilliance tomorrow, hopefully