WEBVTT - Conversation about Gang Bangin' 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.559 And the problem me is you just can't be poor 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.960 to live in that l anymore. That day is coming 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.559 to a quick, quick, quick, quick end. And when you 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.680 can't be poor there, gangs will no longer be available there. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.360 So normally you always be on my head, Pete, because 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.680 I never tell you what we talked about ahead of time. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.880 Was this still ain't ahead of time. I usually just 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.840 kind of let the conversation happen and then like you're 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.640 just be like, Okay, well we're just talking, because that's 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.279 really it. No, I'll tell you what it really is. 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.520 What it really is is he turns all the lights 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.320 off in the room and puts a bear trap in 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.280 the middle of the room, and then I walk into 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.199 a dark and get my foot caught, and then we 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:48.400 start the podcast. That's really how we go. But because 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.240 most of the time I realized I was telling Kingdom, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.040 I was telling king that a podcast ain't really an interview, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.960 it's just a conversation. The first time I did a podcast, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.040 as I did The Brilliant Idiots, and um, I didn't 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.240 know what the fun was going on. Charlotte Magne was like, Yo, 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.400 come through my podcast, and I'm like, what he's like? 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.360 Just come through. It's like it's like radio and I'm like, okay, whatever. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.319 So I jump out on them somewhere else in New 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:19.760 York and they were just talking ship and I was like, damn, 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.200 this is just weird. So they like introdug blasses. Yeah, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:23.840 blah blah blah, you like just jump in and I'm 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:28.000 so we're just talking ship and yeah. Yeah. It was 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:32.319 just crazy as hell. And once we left, right I 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.160 looked at the Breakfast Club interview and it had so 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.560 many views. But then I looked at the Brilliant Idiots 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.319 podcast views and it was like people was blowing my 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.679 Twitter up talking about content. I'm like, what the funk 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:49.080 is going on? And that was like my introduction of podcast. Um. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.840 I think Joe Budden's kind of was podcasting on tour, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.760 probably in like two thousand eleven and twelve, but I 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.880 didn't know what the funk he was doing. But the 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:00.960 first time I heard the title, it was with Brilliant Idiots, Um, 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:05.920 so I thought that was crazy, But no sailors um 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:11.480 glasses low my boy Peter as usual king on the 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.320 Engineering Ship and um, my brother, my boy guilty man, 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.640 guilty is my partner man, Guilty of cold player man, 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:24.160 cold real smart, savvy businessman man. He's smart. But what 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.720 I always liked about Guilty was he's still always with street, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.560 you know what I mean. And I think street has 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.440 a negative connotation, but when you come from poverty, I 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.000 think being street is so imperative. It's just like hip 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.000 hop me. I mean, it's like jaywalking. It's it's how 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:46.400 you get things done. So I thought that was cool. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.480 It's the deal thog gil oh Man out here trying 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.640 to get back wiggling and open the world back up, 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.760 you know, trying to pick out and uh see what's 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.640 going on, See how we're gonna survive and thrive, and 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.280 uh look for what's around that bend with with all 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.119 the changes that are happening in music and in retail 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.560 and the other areas that it affects me directly and financially. Um. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.000 You know, I think like one of the one of 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.399 the primary things that I'm hoping everybody was taking from 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.799 the situation in this last world is that you you 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.120 gotta have you gotta be standing on five feet, you 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.160 know what I'm saying that, because if they sweep one, two, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.080 three out from underneath you, you you can still stand for 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.000 a little bit, you know, and a lot of people 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.280 haven't been uh investing or trying to develop different streams 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.400 of income. And this year what they did is they 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.440 knocked their feet out from under them, and then they 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.280 gave him a chair to sit in, and they say, Okay, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:30.480 now here you go. You know what I mean. You 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.440 don't need your legs because we got you. You can 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.080 lean on us, you know, and we're gonna get you 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.240 through this. And I think that's a I think that 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.440 any time you you you allow somebody, you know, that's 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.680 like you don't take you don't take something from somebody 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.320 in the penitentiary. You know what I'm saying, All money 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.080 and good money, you know what I'm saying, some things 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.400 ain't for your benefit, you know, it's just to wrap 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:48.840 you up in the debt, you know what I mean. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.720 And so I think that that's there's a lot of 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.480 that going on. And so with that being said me 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.200 personally and just coming out of this whole situation, what 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.360 I took from it is that I need to, you know, 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.400 I need to make sure that the I got as 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.560 many things going on, as many things cracking and bubbling 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.440 and lucrative as possible teaching that to the young homies 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.120 and anybody watching and listening or trying to learn from me, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.839 you know what I mean. But man, that's that's that's 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.560 that's the mode. That's that's what I'm on for a sure, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.200 night and day, day and night. I mean, you've never 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.719 been a pimp? What's that? You ever been a pimp? 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.720 I've done things, I've done all kinds. You talk like 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.960 a pimp. I was ready to give you the money 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.000 on my right now because I was like, just Nick 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.960 trying to break me. What the funk? I'm not no 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:38.320 motherfucking procecute. That was the tightest ever description of the 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.440 flaw with the whole close you down and bail you out. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.360 You know, I don't even print I don't even want 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.920 to ask you how COVID went because you just nigga. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.200 We don't even need to do the rest of the 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:55.320 podcast this reader's digest. So in other words, you're not 0:04:55.400 --> 0:05:00.080 working with Delta. What's that Delta? Delta? You know? My 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.280 my thing is that I believe that these variants are 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.159 gonna keep coming, these strains are gonna keep coming, because 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:05.640 they're gonna have to put our back to the wall 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.599 on this virus. You know what I mean, whatever it is, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.960 I don't really know the why because my heart don't 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.480 work with that kind of evil. You know what I mean. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.320 That it takes to do the kind of things that 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.200 that that are that are taking place in the world 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:17.279 right now, you know what I mean. So I can't 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.880 even really focus on the why so much as what 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.040 and how and how does it affect me? You know 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.160 what I mean. So, um, I'll tell you this. I've 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.360 been touching money this whole time, dog, and I've been 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.920 I ain't been licking windows or you know, doing eating 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.720 gum off the ground or anything. But but I but 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.800 I ain't really been running around in a rubber suit neither, 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:34.760 you know what I'm saying. So I've been living my 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.560 life and I've been doing my thing, and um, you know, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.560 I've been just trusting. And you know, my girl is 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.279 real good about smoothies and vitamins in the morning. She 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:43.640 loves me. She treats me like it. You know what 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.440 I'm saying. We get because nice sleep, We go laying 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.640 a rock or go lay on a rock, get some sunshine. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.839 We do all the things that I believe my body 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.800 is needs in order for me to be the strongest 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.320 that it needs to be for whatever is out there 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.800 on a daily basis, whether it be COVID or Delta 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.720 haters or hate or anything else that you up against. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.720 See what I'm saying, I get exactly what you I 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.400 got in the first five seconds. But nigga, your detail 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:15.920 is spectacular spectacular. Um. So Pete was tripping right, Um, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.000 it's all this crazy ship going on in the streets 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.159 right now. Like right, it's a ton of gang wars 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:24.240 and ship in the l a um, A lot of 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.479 crazy shit happening, you know what I mean. Like it's 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.760 I mean, it's always crazy shit happening, but I guess 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.799 it feels a little bit more crazier. But it's probably not. Um. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.760 But somebody asked me the other day, it was like, gee, like, man, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.360 what do you think it's wrong with gangs. I'm like, well, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.200 you know, gangs is a response to like oppression and poverty. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.360 It's you know, it's just a typical response for people 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.560 don't feel like you're giving them a fair shot to 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:56.480 get ahead. Um, at least from from from our angle. Um. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.960 But he was like, you know, what's changed. Something's changed, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:05.400 And I realize most people are not growing up in 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.960 the neighborhoods or in the area or the sections of 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:14.400 which place they are claiming. It's like, motherfucker's is going 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.040 on the college campus tour through different sets. What's because 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.320 of black flight? In Los Angeles? People don't talk about 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.840 black flight. Flight is a real thing that's happening, and 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.800 so exactly right, So you have people you're laughing, well, 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.400 that's the real thing. People get the funk out of here. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.000 But people is leaving right in. But people are like 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.640 joining sections and they didn't grow up in that sector 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.360 at all. So they come and they're like they're like, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.400 all right, which which sector do I want to be 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.000 a part of? And that's just the weirdest thing to me, 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.480 because like, how do you how are you willing to 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.240 kill and die for something or somebody you don't really know? 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.000 And I think that's where a lot of the fundamental 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.720 core values as these generations is because when you haven't 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.360 grown up, like you said, shoulder the shoulder with somebody 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:06.800 and seen him through the best and the worst, it's 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.280 real hard to go do that, do that dime, real 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.160 just go hard. It's real hard to go ahead and 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.680 risk this life, risk this time for this person when 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.440 you don't even you haven't even really developed that kind 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.560 of a relationship with him. But because it's a lot 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.320 of its plastic and surface and social media and everything else, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.520 it's really just the image and you know, claiming the 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:27.360 fame and fucking holes and looking good. Yeah. Um, well, 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.520 I saw you on Live earlier this week talking about this, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.560 and I don't want to dive into your lives. It's 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:37.280 all good. But and something I've father mentioned this a 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.600 long time for there's not money on the block like 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.480 that anymore, as you were saying, and that was turned 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.720 into amateurish because it is amateurish. You're doing it for 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.079 the love of the game, and you're not defending your 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.400 block to get access to this park or this corner 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.840 or whatever, because there's a purpose to be there. It's 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.680 just to be there to be there, which is my 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.760 part too, right. So what the young nigg is right, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.840 that's coming up in the culture. They're not actually a 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.600 part of the culture of that sector. So you have 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.040 a lot of a lot more foolishness within than you 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.680 ever seen because it's really strangers and they're all trying 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.160 to build a relationship behind a false identity of a 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.720 street sign or a bandanna, when that never was really 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.360 the identity. Initially, it was the family and friends you 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.680 grew up around, and you know, somebody mom and daddy. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:29.000 It's like ordering the Thanksgiving turkey sandwich from Subway without 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.160 the whole Thanksgiving. It's the whole Thanksgiving, the holiday and 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.040 everything that was going on in the people surrounding it 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.680 that made that sandwich what it was. Yeah, people trying 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.360 to expedite that rapport like I don't have grown up 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.200 with you for ten years rapport, so let me go 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.080 do something to get a reputation so I can have, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:52.720 you know, like microwave reputation. And that's a say that again, 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.679 Say that again. If I don't, if I didn't go 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.640 to elementary school and I know you and we have 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.880 that bond, I show up out of nowhere. You're trying 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.880 to create like microwave reputation. So I gotta go do 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:10.240 something extreme crazy. And I'm noticing that right with different 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.600 people where you know, whether it's you know, marking on 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.880 the mural, whether it's just these really extreme acts that 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:23.160 don't really make sense per se. It's so much, it's 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.120 so many easier things to do to build the same 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:31.440 reputation and get the same respect. That's you know that 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.800 that falls within the line of you know where people 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.200 still gonna have a level a level of fear about 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.040 how they interact with you, because that's all it is. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.400 It's about making sure people are gonna get you enough 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.360 space to do your thing. Um don't know game and 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.800 we want to kill everybody. I mean, if any gang 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.920 sat around and try to plot the depth of every 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.040 one of day, you know, the rivals, this is a 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.600 whole different conversation. It's all for survival. You know, everybody 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.040 is killing and shooting for the most part out of survival. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.240 And you know they said the goal of aving war 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.120 is peace, and so people people for the most posts 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:05.920 because for the most part of if you were left 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.920 alone and motherfucker's weren't coming around here with that bullshit, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:10.440 and if you were just able to do and move 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.920 how you need to be a lot less to that 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.280 that bumping and grinding that that uh you know going on. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.520 But again, because it's rooted in poverty. Right to pick 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.560 off what you're saying, we all sharing very limited limited 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.960 resource wack video that I sent you, right, Did you 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.160 heard the part where he says, if you win, if 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:34.800 you overwin, you begin to lose. I like that, and 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.040 and and that was one of those really scalable observations 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.560 that I liked throughout that things like if you're engaged 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:41.960 in but like you can look at Hitler, you can 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.240 look in Na Poland throughout history, there's all kinds of 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.319 examples where yeah, you can have a conflict here if 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.600 you march too far, it's not that you over extend 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.600 yourself and said, now you've you've over wonder the point 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.560 where now you're you're pissing off everybody, be around them, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.320 not just around you. So you're you're gonna get this. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.360 You know, that's a great point of what's happening right 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.240 now in in in the city. You know what I 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.240 mean is somebody did something very extreme. It's like you 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.520 over one with that. You did weigh entirely too much. 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.480 So now you know you're watching ship happened around people, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.120 even one person particularly you're watching ship that he's watching 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.320 it happened around himself, and he don't realize. No matter what, 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.880 whether or not it's a direct response, you're still a 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.760 catalyst to the energy. Like it's a catalyst to the energy. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.600 I mean, like ship's happening around you, and you don't 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.240 know that You've awakened all kinds of different entities to 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.079 be more mindful of people of you and people from 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.480 your community, and emotions are invisible you A lot of 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.280 times you don't know or understanding see what's being felt 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.160 about you until that action takes place. And depending on 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.400 the you know, the individual and the wisdom of the vindictiveness, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.880 of the level of extreme they're willing to go. You know, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.559 you don't meet their emotion until, you know, until it's 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.480 a drastic situation. And I'm noticing situations that's happening, right, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:06.400 I noticed. You know, if if you started all out war, 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.040 I wouldn't. I don't think you should publicly cry if 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.080 something happens, if somebody becomes a victim of that war, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.120 you know, I mean if if if you start a 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.520 situation right and you like going out your way to 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.760 get out there and be the catalyst, and then as 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:29.000 the actions execute, why are you sad at that point? Yeah? 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.760 I think even from a psychological warriors perspective, that's a 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.800 weekend approach to war, you know what I mean, you 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:39.120 should have never let them see the sweat regardless. So 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.520 so I think that's what's wrong at the entry level. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.160 The entry level of of of of the street ship 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.000 and gang banging always was bad because you know, the 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.160 culture itself is very inviting. You know, it's about taking 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.079 people who don't have a home or their home made 0:13:54.120 --> 0:14:01.400 structure correctly and bringing togetherness. So it already fragile at 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:05.280 his earliest exception, but now it's even worse because you 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.360 have strangers, you know, trying to pick up a culture 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.480 that's already limited. I mean that that's that it was 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.040 already fragile at the gate in the first place, walking 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.400 through the gate, So now you're letting all kinds of 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.840 other people in the front gate and there's no real bond. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:23.920 The other part, and this is what I was talking 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:28.280 about on my life, was when I came up, my 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.280 older homies made they living in the community. I mean, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.640 they was hustling whatever they You know, every grown man 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.800 wants to feed his family. I don't care if he's 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.560 a gang banger, I don't care whoever he is. He 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.600 wants to, you know, make a living and feed his family. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.280 Don't nobody not want to do that? Um, And when 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:54.560 I was coming up, you know, moon Plug, Shady Fats, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:59.359 Tone Man Boo. They earned the living right in the community. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.240 So they were a lot more hands on with me, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:12.080 with Jay Psycho, you know, uh fifty slow Ron Ron Russ. 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.840 They was all more hands on with us. You I mean, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.240 it was like always around, you know. I mean, it 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.720 was always somebody there to get you know, consultation on 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:26.720 the correct do things or better advice versus my generation 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.560 who would be in those positions. Now none of us 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.640 make our living. There's no living to be made in 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.720 the community as far as like um, the way they 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.600 was with hustling and those opportunities, those opportunities and people 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.080 ain't smoking rocks no more because they're getting their life together. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.000 How much of it do you also think, like to 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.760 go back to your point of not being there, and 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.160 you know, I always got to tie in the discipline 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:53.960 consequence spectrum. If I live in some hundred unit complex 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:58.680 and Bellflower, but I want to go Rep. Swans or 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.480 something like that, if I had lived there and my 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.840 mom lived there, every my family, if you know where 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.200 to find me. If I gonna do something crazy, but 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.560 I go shake three cities down and do some giant 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.400 condors where the funk. I go, well, I have ananimity, 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.080 I can go do something that I want to do. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.800 My people know I did it, but no one who 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.520 wants to get back at me knows where the funk 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.360 to go find me to get back at me. Yet, Well, 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.080 the funniest part, so who would the consequence who were 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.240 talking about? Are you saying? The person say the act 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.240 of the perpetrator doesn't have to live with the same consequences. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.600 So since the consequences and got pushed further away, Now 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.640 do I think they consciously know that? I don't know. 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.800 I mean, at some point you figure it out. I 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.680 think that that type of situation is a crash dummy situation. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.880 And you you I would never trust somebody fully that 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:48.120 that came from that distance into into the close, small 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.600 knit of activity that was going on in the neighborhood. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.520 And also I wouldn't expect to be trusted if I 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.920 came from an outside perspective and and wasn't really tied 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.680 in with what was going on, because they if I 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.600 understand what you're saying, it's kind of like you're you're 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.919 able to gain clout for the gang by going out 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.760 here and putting in work but you're able to operate 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.439 under the radar because you're you're less likely to be 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.440 suspected for doing the things that you're doing. So you're 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.199 still gating. Even if they say everybody knows just me, 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.399 you know, like like to really like say, you know, 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.920 stones in the jungles and I go do some ship 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.320 agree just to just to six os, and they know 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.680 what's me, and everybody knows it's me, but I don't 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.000 live there. Nobody knows I punched my gang bang card 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.639 at eight pm and I'm out. It's because I'm right 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.800 on Nicolette and what's weird is right, So it's two 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:43.720 things that make that weird. Go ahead. I was water 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.840 water right there right behind you. I was gonna say 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.480 that being from Tacoma watching gangs come up there because 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:53.120 l A gangs came up to Tacoma, and like you said, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.359 that happens. They'll come up to Cooma, kick up all 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.280 kinds of ship do things, and go back to l 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.680 A and we'll be stuck up there. Like I found, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.920 we got tired of it and decided to start Hilltop 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.399 because that's what was happening. They'll come up from l 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.679 A and start doing ship rather they'll give us a 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.880 sack and then their home, but will come rob the sack, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.600 you know. And so we finally got tired of it, like, 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.080 wait a minute, this is our town, this is where 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.280 Hilltop start. But that's what happened to us. They will 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.960 come from other places like l A and do all 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.080 that crazy ship like you said, and go back home 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.800 because most people wasn't going from Tacoma to l A. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:27.320 And so that's what I want to say. It happens 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:32.439 like that trip we talked about. We talked about fifteen miles, 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.160 you talking about some real, real mom and I think 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.159 that that is it's kind of just an extension of 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.320 you know how you were saying, like the resources so 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.520 limited with the coast is only so big too, you 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:43.800 know what I mean. So it's nothing to really hit 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.080 the freeway four, five, six, seven, eight, ten hours and 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:51.520 that mother further than that, oh yeah, all the way 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.480 up from here. Yeah yeah, right, you're right, I'm about 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.760 ten hours from right. So, but that's actually the cause 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.960 of the sixty A trade war. Like if you know 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.120 the history of the war, they war is rooted in, 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.920 you know, a simple misunderstanding the months two communities. That's been, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.560 you know, tighty ship forever at at certain at a 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:16.119 certain point, and somebody who was a foreign you know, 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:20.560 an implant into that culture. That's that's considered a tray thought. 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.840 The fight that they have normally to settle differences was 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.320 a little bit more than what it was, and they 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:31.800 overreacted and killed somebody of importance to the sixties, somebody 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.600 who meant a lot to everybody, that was something over there. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.359 And when they tried to come up with an amicable 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.800 solution and they met up, they couldn't really figure out. 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.200 They couldn't find the dude to turn him over because 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.520 he wasn't a dude that grew up in their culture, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.960 that grew up in their section. They didn't even know 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.919 his mother, They didn't really know nothing. Maybe one person 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.480 possibly know him, who brought him over there, but they 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.040 didn't know enough about him. So when they couldn't turn 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.520 him over, you know, feelings got worse, worse and worse 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.000 and worse. No justice felt like it had been served. 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.080 So his now it becomes even in the streets, almost 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:11.480 a vigilante. Since at a street level it's already vigilante. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.800 It's at the street level, but then even within the 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.040 street level, there's an even more vigilante version, and at 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.320 that point anybody will work because we can't get the 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.720 person that causes as much pain and this injustice. But 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:27.000 that's really the beginning, you know, of their war, and 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.679 it's obviously been you know, and for years, and that 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.320 makes sense, and that's that's just a situation where somebody 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:35.960 was where they maybe shouldn't have been, you know, doing 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:37.480 what they maybe shouldn't have done. That happened in my 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.399 neighborhood with them. You know, some dudes was out barbecue 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.960