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Speaker 2: With Doug gott What Doug Gotlin Show in the bonus,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio, app. I hope you're doing great.

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Speaker 2: So this was a great sports weekend, right, Yeah? The

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Speaker 2: Dodgers come back game one, Yankees down two games to none.

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Speaker 2: You have two gigantic upsets in college football, I think,

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Speaker 2: most notably UCLA taking out Penn State. Secondarily Florida Beaten Texas.

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Speaker 2: The number one, number two teams preseason in the country

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Speaker 2: with college football NFL football only two unefeated teams both

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Speaker 3: As well as the Eagles at home.

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Speaker 2: You had some disappointing showings like that of my guy

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Speaker 2: guys the Chargers. You had Sam Darnold throwing a late

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Speaker 2: if we're honest with ourselves, Okay, that playoff games, championship games,

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Speaker 3: We'll always remember random regular season football games.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe this is the game that completely

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Speaker 2: gigantic win. But the stories that resonate are ones that

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Speaker 2: are just bizarre, interesting, different than you would ever perceive

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Speaker 2: it when it first came out out, And I just

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Speaker 2: I can't get past like this Mark Sanchez story. So

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning, most of America woke up to a tweet

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Speaker 2: hospitalized after being stabbed in Indiana, in Indianapolis, because that, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning, all right, So Saturday morning. And the minute

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Speaker 2: posse right, you got the politically aligned to the right. Oh,

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Speaker 2: this is a city, democrats rule the city. We know

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Speaker 3: Right? Like that was a the fuck?

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Speaker 2: The story sat out there by itself without context for

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Speaker 3: He's in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: He's got a gash in his face where he got

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Speaker 2: video coroborates it that he was defending himself against Sanchez,

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Speaker 2: who was the aggressor in this whole thing, and Sanchez

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Speaker 2: Jay Stu, this is this is a great one for

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Speaker 4: I don't know him at all.

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Speaker 5: I've any communication I've ever had has been with his brother,

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Speaker 5: Nothing explains what happened on Friday night and Wes there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's can I ask you honest question,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's literally I think maybe my favorite guest on

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Speaker 2: The it's he's not even hiding it. He's saying that

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Speaker 2: That is inherently racist. It just is, and you can

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying I played a role in it carry Roads.

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Speaker 7: I think a Mario de Mercado played a role in

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Speaker 6: This was my confidence level in the Titans.

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Speaker 7: The Cardinals right now, one day six, leading the Titans

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Speaker 6: They're they're gonna gonna win. I know. I don't say

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Speaker 4: Yeah, your voice fluctuated there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go. There, it was, there you go.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't talking about today down fifteen points at that,

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Speaker 2: I just the whole thing was bizarre, and it was

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Speaker 8: We've been sitting waiting for Philadelphia because they keep winning,

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Speaker 8: bonickx yep So in football and in life, drip drip, drip,

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Speaker 8: Companies don't go from great quarterly earnings to we're bankrupt.

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Speaker 8: been preaching this for three years. Nick Seriani. He is

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Speaker 2: that's what happened with UCLA is Oregon beat Penn State

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Speaker 2: that may sound like I'm taking away from UCLA's upset,

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Speaker 2: It is a little bit. I believe that's the reality

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Speaker 3: The reality of it.

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Speaker 2: And there's lots of different kinds of coaching, coaching underdogs,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying?

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Speaker 5: Hey, Doug, Can I talk about one thing that you

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Speaker 5: have we gotten into in the in the radio and

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Speaker 5: I know you talked about it with Tom Touesco You I,

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Speaker 5: Sam and Dan Byer had a conversation last December, I

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Speaker 5: a message to two people that cover the NFL. Same question.

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Speaker 5: I asked all of us. Do these players drop the

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Speaker 5: and Sam think it's accidental. It was fifty to fifty

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Speaker 10: I mean the first thing you do anytime you get

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Speaker 10: all these type of things, right, I mean, you're not

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Speaker 10: here's what I see with this kid, all right, I

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Speaker 10: mean it's crazy that happened. Right, But you're selfish, okay,

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Speaker 10: I mean absolutely selfish. And would you think you're cool

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's on purpose, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: How many interceptions he had in his career, Like he's

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Speaker 2: sympathy because it's happened so many times over. You have

436
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: to be repeating it to yourself. Just hold on this,

437
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 2: hold on this, just get the end zone, hold on

438
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: this hand to the ref, hold on this whatever.

439
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 3: I'll uh.

440
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: There's a portion of it which is coaching. There's a

441
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: portion of it which is selfish. There's a portion of

442
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: it which is just not paying attention, attention to detail.

443
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: And there's a portion of it where we have to

444
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: admit it's an out of body experience sometimes to score

445
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: a touchdown in the NFL. And I go back to

446
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: why am I forgetting the movie? What's the movie with

447
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: the agent Jerry Maguire? Jerry Maguire, Right where here you

448
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: have a talented wide receiver and suddenly he starts dancing

449
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: in the end zone and kind of like again out

450
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: of body experience. He'd never done this before?

451
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 3: Why?

452
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: Well, because he had all this other stuff, pressure in

453
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: his life, whatever, and I won't dance, and then he

454
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 2: gets to the end zone, and then of course he

455
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: does dance. So I don't think it's with all these guys.

456
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: With most of these guys, it's really about selfishness as

457
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: much as they just there's an exhale that happens when

458
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: they get the end zone and it has to be

459
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: trained out of you. But I'm also with you, Jaysetu.

460
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: This is like you're gonna be riding the fence where

461
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: this has to be coached, just has to be coached. Hey,

462
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: we don't do this if you don't coach it. At

463
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: this point, you're responsible for it. If you don't coach.

464
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what they got over with guys, but

465
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: if you don't go over it, you're responsible for it.

466
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: Cause it It's happened several times this year. And this

467
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: is like year twenty of This is the dumbest fucking

468
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: play of all time, and it happens all the time, Samue,

469
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: what do you think.

470
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: Well, I think it has to happen a couple times

471
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: a year to to remind everyone else to not let

472
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 4: this happen. I almost thinks it's like a mic drop

473
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 4: when you're crossing the goal line. And yes, it's a

474
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: little bit of showing off, but I can't think it's

475
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: intentional because that would just be like anti football. It's

476
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: like you said, it's like you're having this sort of jubilation,

477
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: you know, you you know, like a rage stroke where

478
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: you sort of get all lightheaded and you're like, oh,

479
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: this is more like jubilation and euphoria as you're crossing

480
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 4: the goal line, and like you said, you're just sort

481
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: of releasing the ball. What they should do is they

482
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: should have every guy coach every guy to go take

483
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 4: the ball and give it to the ref so it

484
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: just doesn't happen.

485
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 5: Yes, but that's not cool. They wouldn't be they wouldn't

486
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: be cool in front of their buddies. And just to

487
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 5: be uh, to clarify what Doug said earlier, he scored

488
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 5: eleven touchdowns at TCU and he has scored three times

489
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 5: in the NFL. And I I also I'm glad that

490
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 5: you guys haven't changed your mind because the group same

491
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 5: group text that I sent with two football coaches and

492
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: two guys that cover the NFL, one person was swayed.

493
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: So it's it was three and one that it's on purpose.

494
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 5: You know, what would help to know if these things

495
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 5: were done on purpose. Which is the most annoying part

496
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: of this story, is that I watched them ask questions

497
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: the de Macaro after the game, and he kept saying,

498
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: no excuse, no excuse, can't happen, no excuse. Now, one

499
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 5: reporter asked, why do you do it? Why did you

500
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 5: do it? Not one, not one reporter. So we have

501
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 5: two guys in the studio who still think it's an accident,

502
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: one guy who is convinced that it's on purpose. Three

503
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: out of four of my football buddies are convinced that

504
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 5: it's on purpose. But the only person who knows is

505
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 5: Dave Marcardo, and he needs to be asked why.

506
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: I think it's subconscious. I don't think it's a conscious thing.

507
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: It's he's crossing the goal line and you have to

508
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: you know, you have when you go through a yellow light,

509
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: you've got to get all the way through.

510
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: I'll give you. I'm trying to think of a basket.

511
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: You've got to get over the goal line.

512
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: Well, there's lots of things that guys do that they

513
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: don't realize they do. You know, It's like out of body.

514
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: We have one. I had one last year foreign player

515
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: who every time he would mess up, whether it be

516
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: a foul called or anything, he would look directly at

517
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: me and like just like I was his dad and

518
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: like have his hands in the air like I didn't

519
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: do it or I'm my bad or whatever. And we

520
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: actually like showed him video of like dude, this is

521
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: You'd miss a shot.

522
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: And you'd turn and look at us.

523
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: Palms up, yeah, no, palms up, palms down.

524
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 2: You'll have guys that they'll shoot at three and then

525
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: they'll stare at it and they'll always go into their

526
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: three point celebration, which everybody has a three point celebration

527
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: when you really need to be getting back on defense.

528
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: So Luca does that, he just kind of waits around.

529
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: I do think yeah.

530
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: Again, some people have different sorts of of of of

531
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: transition defense. Some people do it's called tagging. That's when

532
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: you're only responsible for your guy being inside of you,

533
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: Like you're taking a three and you're got the guy

534
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: you're guarding is inside of you. That's your guy. You

535
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: don't have to be back any further than that guy.

536
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: So but I'm just saying, like for us, we don't

537
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: do that. We have guys that are supposed to drop

538
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: and they shoot and they go in there or they

539
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: just stare it down and it's like they don't mean

540
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: to do it. I've doing this with my point guards.

541
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: My point guards all come back to the basketball. They'll

542
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: stand right next to the guy to get the ball

543
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: when what they need to be is down the court

544
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: or outletting it and crossing over and getting in front

545
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: of in front of the airspace of the other. Why well,

546
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: because now we don't have to go ninety four feet

547
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: and to beat nine players down the court. Every step

548
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: down the court beats another player makes it quicker. So again,

549
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: a lot of these are just habits chased too. And

550
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: if you don't train and train and train out of

551
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: those habits, this is what happens. I'd love to see

552
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: if a Bill Belichick player ever did that in New England.

553
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: And I bring it up because Belichick was a fanatic

554
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: for certain things. Ball security was one of them. They're

555
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: famous for playing where you take a football, you dunk

556
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: it in water and then they put it right in,

557
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: putting other substances on make it slippery, and making them

558
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: play through all these different things. I'm not blaming the

559
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: coaching staff, but you do have to own it as

560
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: a coaching staff. So when you ask why you did it,

561
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure the answer is I don't know. I don't

562
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: know that's in the subconscious. Do I think that we

563
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: promote an unhealthy amount of selfishness? Yeah, you get an

564
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: interception out and you run down to the end zone

565
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: as a team and you do some pose like what

566
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: But that's what social media likes. And the NFL only

567
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: helps that because they think that's, you know, that gives

568
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: them social media equity, whereas really it's just look at me, celebratory.

569
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: That's not what's really about.

570
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 5: We took this I filled in for Cave we know

571
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 5: and Rich once. It was after one of the episodes

572
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: last year, and we took a call from a black

573
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 5: gentleman I think in Philadelphia somewhere, and it was like,

574
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 5: that was kind of like an eye opening thing for me.

575
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 5: I think callers are completely unnecessary on a talk show,

576
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: but there was one caller who called in with this

577
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 5: theory and I can't forget it, and there's got to

578
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 5: be something to it. But I'm not the right skin

579
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: color to make this assumption. He says that there's something

580
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 5: about this generation that's a risk take there's a risk

581
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 5: taking gene that they want to go up to the

582
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: line and almost cross over the line, but just get

583
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: up to the line and knock. And he used this

584
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: as an example. He said, You've seen these kind of

585
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 5: group of motorcycle riders on the freeway going one hundred

586
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: miles an hour and doing wheelies in traffic, and you're thinking,

587
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 5: why would anybody put their life on the line to

588
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 5: basically just show off like it's And the answer is

589
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 5: because there's some kind of like a fucking weird risk

590
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: taking thing that this generation has. And he made that

591
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: argument for why these guys are dropping the ball right

592
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 5: before the end zone. Look house, how close I can

593
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: come to this being a fun Hmmm.

594
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: I just think.

595
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 2: That's an interesting That's I don't think that's in any way.

596
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's accurate, but it's fascinating. I don't

597
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 2: know if that's like the that's like the Seinfeld extra

598
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: strength tialent mell thing. All right, whatever is going to

599
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: kill me, doall it back just a little bit, that's

600
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: what I want, right.

601
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's generational. I think young men,

602
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: maybe not educated. Young men have been doing risky things

603
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: like this for years and again it's like he's crossing

604
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 4: the goal line. It's a mic drop. It's dropping the ball.

605
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if that has that has not been

606
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: a thing back forty to fifty years, guys dropping the

607
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: ball after they crossed the goal Jackson invented it. Okay,

608
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: so it just keeps getting the It's a symptom of

609
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: the last twenty five years. Then is this dropping the

610
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: ball thing, because it looks cool to a mic drop.

611
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: You're dropping the balls, you cross the it's like, oh,

612
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm too cool. I just picked you off boom and uh.

613
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: But you know, young men have been doing stupid things

614
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: for for eternity.

615
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 5: So one more thing it's been annoying me is ti

616
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 5: Oscar Hernandez. He's the right fielder for the Dodgers. He

617
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 5: is he shouldn't be playing right field, but we have

618
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 5: this guy named Shoho Tani who takes up the DH spot.

619
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: So you have to put people in the field that

620
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 5: aren't major league fielders. TiO Hernandez is like a natural

621
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 5: DH on a team that doesn't have a guy that

622
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 5: just sucks up the DH spot. Every single night, so

623
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 5: we have to put him in the field. I don't

624
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 5: know why we don't put him in left where there's

625
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: less risk. But TiO Hernandez has done two things in

626
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 5: the first two games of this series that are just

627
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: head scratching.

628
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 6: In right field.

629
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: On Saturday night, he let a ball get to the gap.

630
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: He let the catcher on the other team get the

631
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: third base on a triple and he eventually scored. TiO

632
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 5: Hernandez then stepped up two innings later and did this.

633
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: He can make up for it with one swing the pitch,

634
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: the high in the right center field baitter on the

635
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: run on the warning track, he's at the wall.

636
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 5: It's gone.

637
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: Tail time.

638
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 7: In Game one, he flips the scoreboard with a three

639
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 7: run bomb.

640
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: So that's the annoying part about having TiO Hernandez on

641
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 5: your team. He's an absolute liability in the field, and

642
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 5: then he hits the three run home run to give

643
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 5: your team to win.

644
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: He's Kyle Schwarber back when Kyle Shorb was a Cub.

645
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: Remember Kyle Shorp was a Cub and they would try

646
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: and make him a catcher and we came up a catcher. Yeah, yeah,

647
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 2: but he's not. He can't catch at the major league level.

648
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: I think one thing that's really important for people to

649
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 2: point this out, okay, is this is aside from being annoying,

650
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: I understand the context of what we're talking about, but

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Speaker 2: this is a really really important thought. When we say

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Speaker 2: Kylesh Schwarber can't be a catcher or a tasker, Hernandez

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Speaker 2: be a right fielder, we're not saying they can't play

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Speaker 2: right field. We're saying at the major league level. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if people understand how important fucking defense is

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Speaker 2: eight and you can't. You just it's the the risk

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Speaker 2: is not worth the reward. Kyle Schwarber came up as

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Speaker 2: a catcher and then made his way to being an outfit.

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Speaker 2: He was an atrocious major league catcher, but he was

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Speaker 2: such a good hitter that the Cubs would, finally you

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Speaker 2: would would throw him out there because that was the

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Speaker 2: best that they could do.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, now he's still a prodigious hitter, unbelievable hitter. But

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Speaker 2: with the universal DH it's help. It's helped his career

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Speaker 2: to where now he's a star. Tay Hernandez feels like

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Speaker 2: that guy. The one thing Hernandez has is I'd love

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Speaker 2: to see the numbers, the clutch numbers. It does feel

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Speaker 2: like he's a clutch hitter in the postseason. Go back

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Speaker 2: to last year, to this year and through the wild

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Speaker 2: card now and it's it's the when you see him

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Speaker 2: Butcher playing right field and you're screaming, why is he

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Speaker 2: in the lineup, Dave? And then he strides to play.

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Speaker 2: You're like, that's why he's in the lineup, Dave.

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Speaker 4: Good job, and he's a really likable guy. Yes his

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Speaker 4: sunny disposition.

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Speaker 3: I got a.

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Speaker 2: Quick Tascar Hernandez story. So my buddy Vic Romero shout

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Speaker 2: out to Vic Oklahoma State Baseball. Last year during the

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Speaker 2: World Series, I was in Oklahoma and I was hanging

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Speaker 2: out with the Holidays and Vic is an assistant to Josh.

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Speaker 2: Josh Holiday is the head coach in Oklahoma State. Vix an assistant.

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Speaker 2: His wife was pregnant with their second who's a boy,

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Speaker 2: and we're sitting around watching and watching baseball at the

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Speaker 2: Holiday's house. Is awesome, right, because they're looking at every

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Speaker 2: time the balls hit, they look at their phones to

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Speaker 2: see what the exit vlow was and they start talking

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00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: about shit, and you're like, I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: they're talking about, but I'm just learning about baseball anyway.

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Speaker 3: Part of it was whoever was the player of the game,

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Speaker 3: And I think this was like.

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Speaker 2: I think it was World Series, like I don't know

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Speaker 2: thro all it Game three or Game fource something that

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00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: tiaskaranas was awesome, and we're like, whoever they play of

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: That's where naming Vick R.

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Speaker 2: Merrow's unborn son, and so they did not name him Tasker,

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Speaker 2: even though it should have been named Taskar because it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like it's still like a running joke, and

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Speaker 2: so anytime Taskar does anything good or bad on the.

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Speaker 3: Group chat, you'll get the Tasker.

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Speaker 2: And then we always talk about, hey, have you told

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Speaker 2: your son what his namesake is doing for the Dodgers

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00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 2: this year? So to Askar Hernandez has a big spot

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Speaker 2: in nowing my heart, but in my memory because of

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Speaker 2: that conversation.

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Speaker 3: What's most annoying?

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Speaker 2: I think it's what's most annoying you're you're kind of

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Speaker 2: bearing the league Jase two. It's the story comes out

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00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: and we have this incessant need to make an assumption

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00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: about it without hearing any of the details, and because

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00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: news mostly from our president has been deemed as fake

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Speaker 2: news that even when the facts come out, people still

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Speaker 2: don't believe it. They're still dug in into what they

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Speaker 2: think it is. And the Mark Sanchez story could not

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Speaker 2: be a better representative of that problem, which is, the

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00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 2: story comes out Saturday morning, Mark Sanchez gets stabbed, every

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00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: one of us is like, WHOA, hope he's okay. But

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Speaker 2: the leap that so many make in terms of who

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Speaker 2: might have done it what? But you got no idea.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea what somebody's doing in a foreign

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Speaker 2: city late at night on a Friday night, or what

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Speaker 2: went down. And this is the perfect example. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean that every story of somebody being attacked is really

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00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: they were attacking somebody else in self defense. It just

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Speaker 2: means like, take a breath, wait till the facts come out,

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Speaker 2: and then if you deem yourself worthy of which everybody

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Speaker 2: thinks they have to have a fucking opinion on everything,

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Speaker 2: then when you have more information you can have more

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Speaker 2: of the comments. But think out people, you just feel dumb.

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Speaker 2: You feel dumb and you're not. You're just emotional and

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Speaker 2: you hear a story and your inherent bias comes into play.

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Speaker 3: To me, that is an.

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this.

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Speaker 6: Because we can.

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Speaker 5: All right, this is this is amazing because you did

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Speaker 5: something on Friday that was ultimately very prophetic. So, uh,

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Speaker 5: Cam Schlitzler was our Express pros Pro of the week,

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Speaker 5: and you explain to people why he was the pro

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Speaker 5: of the week as he had an amazing game in

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Speaker 5: the wildcard round, and you stop short of saying his

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Speaker 5: name on live radio because that's a tricky name for

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Speaker 5: a broadcaster just to read cold or say Cam Schlittler, Schlitler, Schlittler, Schlitlerler.

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Speaker 5: Mad Dog Russo on his Serious X show proved Doug

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Speaker 5: Ottlieb Right.

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Speaker 4: Let me start here and then we'll get into Schlister,

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Speaker 4: who obviously was I was Shutner.

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Speaker 3: It was just tremendous in the game.

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Speaker 4: Just stay stayed with the first pronunciation. There at least

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Speaker 4: we're in trouble.

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Speaker 3: If people remember the bit and we with a bit

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Speaker 3: came up kind of on the fly.

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Speaker 2: It was instead of me reading it, I had Sam

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Speaker 2: say Schlitler, right, because it's in the middle of a sentence.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot like when you get to talking and

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Speaker 2: you say Schlitler, it can come out the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: It's a herniated disc. Right, you could, I can say

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Speaker 2: herniated disc. But when I start going you know, Randy

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Speaker 2: and raving and saying there was this one time where

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Speaker 2: I hurt my back and I went to the doctor

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Speaker 2: and the doctor said I had a herniated disc. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: it comes out or a ruptured disc. Right, you don't

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Speaker 2: put the right emphassist to the wrong salable. That's why

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Speaker 2: I made sure to say Cam Schlittler pronounced the correct way.

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Speaker 5: Now A Rod needed Sam live over the air on

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Speaker 5: set on Saturday.

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Speaker 11: I'm bringing in three pitchers into my office. Private meeting

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Speaker 11: is gonna be Max Freed, is gonna be Cam Shit

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Speaker 11: Shitler and and Binar. And here's the bottom line. Those

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Speaker 11: are the only three guys that are gonna have the

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Speaker 11: ball tonight. Nobody says, yeah, well, I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 11: it again.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say, Cam, you gotta slow down when you

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Speaker 4: get to that word how but like again, you gotta

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Speaker 4: ponder a little harder.

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Speaker 2: Listen, listen, Jay stew You know I'll loan when I

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Speaker 2: when I fuck up, I'll loan it, okay, or when

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Speaker 2: I guess something and I guess wrong. But this one,

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Speaker 2: uh I had, I actually had three this weekend. I

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Speaker 2: had three this weekend that I feel really really good about. Okay,

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Speaker 2: one was Cam Schlittler.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The other one was we were told that this was

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Speaker 2: a meh college football weekend, right, and on the meh

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00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: college football weekends, that's when you have the biggest upsets.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what seemed to happen. It's like way more,

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Speaker 2: way more chaotic.

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Speaker 4: Kelly Ford said. So he was like, this is one

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Speaker 4: of those weekends where they creep up on you and

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Speaker 4: all these crazy things happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I agree.

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Speaker 2: So those two and then my pick of Clemson opening

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Speaker 2: up a six pack of whoopass on North Carolina. I

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Speaker 2: had a good weekend. I look, I'll have bad weekends.

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Speaker 2: I'll say things that don't prove to be true, but

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Speaker 2: I do know I have done this long enough, and

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Speaker 2: I talk enough to know when I'm going to mispronounce

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Speaker 2: a word. And that was one where I just said,

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Speaker 2: it's way better off having Sam say Schlittler because he

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Speaker 2: could take time to make sure he pronounced it correctly,

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Speaker 2: the right and fastest and the right slable.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't make the same error that many made.

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Speaker 4: I did dump I did dump another one of our hosts,

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Speaker 4: Rich Davis, because he said Shitler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Rich Davis loves baseball like it's not for

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Speaker 2: it's not one of those words for lack of knowledge

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Speaker 2: of who he is right where you're just mispronouncing word.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, no one knows more baseball I think

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00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: on national radio than Mad Dog, right, like that's mad

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Speaker 2: Dog's dealst show has been on MLB network, right, he

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Speaker 2: knows it. It was funny that a Rod mispronounced it.

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Speaker 2: Why can we play it for you? Because we can't.

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Speaker 2: That's it for the end of the bonus podcast. Check

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Speaker 2: out the radio show every day three to five. He's

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Speaker 2: from twelve two Pacific Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: I'm Doug Gotlig