WEBVTT - Rites of Spring

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to stuff to blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot Com. Hey you welcome to stuff to below

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<v Speaker 1>your Mind. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like spring? Do you like the season spring?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I do. Yeah, How could you not like spring?

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. It's even even though I've never been a

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<v Speaker 1>summer person. Where I used to not be a summer person,

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<v Speaker 1>I always did like springs because no matter how short

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<v Speaker 1>your spring is depending on where you live, and it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like we have very short springs at times here

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<v Speaker 1>in the South. It's it's a time when things begin

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<v Speaker 1>to come alive a little bit, but not everything I

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<v Speaker 1>was alive yet, not all of the really annoying things

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<v Speaker 1>have have have sprung up around you, such as the

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<v Speaker 1>mosquitoes necessarily, or the poison ivy, all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>drive you indoors um. But it's just nice enough to

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<v Speaker 1>to exist outside, to not have to turn on the

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning or the heat. You can set around, you

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<v Speaker 1>can read you're comfortable out there in nature, as perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>got into um for me, it's just emerging from winter's

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<v Speaker 1>dark shadow, right because you have been inside, you've been,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you've had cabin fever, and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden you can step outside and the sun is a

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<v Speaker 1>shining and the festivals are are all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in Atlanta. April is festival of Go Go Time.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, the best sign of spring in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>is when you see people walking down the sidewalk with

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<v Speaker 1>their pillows for International Pillow Fight Day. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>know this existed April five. Huh yeah, because really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got that big blue sky. People are about to

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<v Speaker 1>collabor each other with with soft weapons. Is this the thing?

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds This is a little crazy like Shirley Jackson's

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<v Speaker 1>The Lottery, you know, like it. It sounds like something

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<v Speaker 1>you would encounter in some isolated town and then you

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<v Speaker 1>would yeah, Freedom Parkway. Well actually I think this year

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be in Grant Park. But every year

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<v Speaker 1>in Freedom Parkway people gathered with their pillows and you

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<v Speaker 1>see feathers just to fly and wow, well that that

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<v Speaker 1>is strange. But indeed to your point, though, spring is

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<v Speaker 1>a time where you you come out of your your hibernation,

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<v Speaker 1>you come out of the darkness and to get down

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<v Speaker 1>to the very primal root. Stop it springtime means the

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<v Speaker 1>winner didn't kill us, that that god or the gods

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<v Speaker 1>did not abandon us to the darkness and the chill

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<v Speaker 1>of night. Like springtime came and it saved our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are growing again, food is available again, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>to be celebrated. And you see this in different cultures,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, since time immemorial, right, because people are they're relieved,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going outside and they are celebrating this. You

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<v Speaker 1>see that this in the festival of Holly, right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a celebration of the colors of unity and brotherhood.

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<v Speaker 1>You see this in India where people go around they

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<v Speaker 1>pelt each other in the face of all these beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>different colored um sands. And this is a way of saying,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, hey, guess what we all made it.

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<v Speaker 1>All of us are brothers and sisters, and this whole

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<v Speaker 1>human thing we survived in another winter. Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Christian tradition, of course, you have the the

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<v Speaker 1>death and Resurrection of Jesus as well, which which fits

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<v Speaker 1>right in there and plays upon on older uh Easter

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<v Speaker 1>traditions as well. Now, now it also brings up the

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<v Speaker 1>question why must we have tax season right in the

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<v Speaker 1>spring like that seems to really just sour the whole equation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, we finally come out, we're free, we're alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have to pay taxes. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>having to worry with your car tax when your birthday

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<v Speaker 1>comes along. Oh, it's just like the I r s

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<v Speaker 1>to be like ha ha ha spring. You think everything

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<v Speaker 1>is renewing and emerging. Death to your money exactly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because it comes back. What are the two things you

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<v Speaker 1>can't dodge in life? Right, death and Texas? And there

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<v Speaker 1>you go, and they are interlaced with each other, death

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<v Speaker 1>and taxes at a very basic level. But that's a

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<v Speaker 1>rant for another time. Yes, that is um. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this idea of spring a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>in the context of how it might just not only

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<v Speaker 1>symbolize this reemergence, but it may even change our behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that, we should probably talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how much time we spend indoors. Yes, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty disturbing because because most of us we go

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<v Speaker 1>through our lives and we don't necessarily think of it

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<v Speaker 1>in those terms, like we're not keeping a precise diary

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<v Speaker 1>of how much time we spend outside dear Diary. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I feel a little more in touch with it

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<v Speaker 1>these days, with the with the toddler, because taking the

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<v Speaker 1>toddler outside the park is huge. And so when like

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly not being able to go outside for a few

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<v Speaker 1>days or a week is is very noticeable because it starts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, clawing at eufanity. Yeah. Well, according to the

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<v Speaker 1>Environmental Protection Agency, Americans spent about eighty seven percent of

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<v Speaker 1>their time indoors and another six percent in their vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you say, you probably you don't really unless

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<v Speaker 1>you are, you know, putting it down in your die,

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<v Speaker 1>or you don't realize because you think, well, I went

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<v Speaker 1>outside to go to the grocery store, I went outside

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<v Speaker 1>to do the other errand and you feel like you've

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<v Speaker 1>had outside experiences when in fact you have been inside

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<v Speaker 1>sort of cloistered, especially if you work in an office, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you see, you know, different surveys make that

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<v Speaker 1>percentage a little higher to like I've seen seen nine

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<v Speaker 1>for Americans on a two thousand nine e p A study.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen for people in industrialized countries on another study.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a talking percentage to to really think about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>social you take that plus that six percent. You get

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<v Speaker 1>that really inside a location, right, that's sealed in, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's key because we we did a whole episode

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how artificial indoor environments, how those are really

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<v Speaker 1>alien environments that we've we've created like not only just structurally,

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<v Speaker 1>but also the uh, the the micro biology of those structures,

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we're breathing in. We've created these strange

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<v Speaker 1>realities that are separate from the natural environment with well

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<v Speaker 1>we've evolved to thrive in. That's right. We did. We

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<v Speaker 1>looked at that study with hospitals opening their windows to

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<v Speaker 1>let fresh air and their fresh microbes, I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>could say, and that being exceedingly beneficial to the patients. Um. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>also consider that when you are inside, you are most

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<v Speaker 1>likely sitting down or lying down in the ladder. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course is necessary for sleep, but the former, as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>is associated with a smartgese board of physical ailments, including

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<v Speaker 1>an increased risk of type two diabetes. So all of

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<v Speaker 1>this sedentary inside stuff not so great force, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course it would play out in many different ways. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to point out that according to the

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<v Speaker 1>e p A, indoor levels of pollutants maybe two to

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<v Speaker 1>five times higher and occasionally more than a hundred times

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<v Speaker 1>higher than outdoor levels, which is important to think about,

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<v Speaker 1>especially here in Atlantic where occasionally we received these alert

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<v Speaker 1>saying that if you're very young, are very old, please

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<v Speaker 1>don't go outside today because the air might destroy you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you have to start stop and think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what what kind of air am I fleeing to? You know? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's let's get toned to the more like rainbows

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<v Speaker 1>and kitten farts here thinking about it. I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's take out the sun and look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>because she'll shine upon us and take away all of

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<v Speaker 1>our ailments. The power of the sun is immense. When

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<v Speaker 1>you step out into the sun, those rays or about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and forty nine million kilometers away, and when

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<v Speaker 1>they hit your skin, they unleash a chemical chain reaction

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<v Speaker 1>that benefits us. For instance, vitamin D is produced yes,

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<v Speaker 1>which most of us do not get enough of no,

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<v Speaker 1>and that helps to absorb calcium and foods and which

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<v Speaker 1>of course that helps to grow bone and and uh

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<v Speaker 1>maintain bone health. And it also helps to bolster the

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<v Speaker 1>immune system. So it makes sense that when you go

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<v Speaker 1>out into the sun, wonderful thing has happened. You should

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<v Speaker 1>wear some screen of course, yes, yeah, is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>too much light makes the baby go blind, as they say.

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<v Speaker 1>Now a more quantitative look at this is a two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight study published in the journal Psychological Science

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<v Speaker 1>which looked at the cognitive benefits of spending some time

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<v Speaker 1>interacting with old nature. University of Michigan psychologist Mac Berman

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<v Speaker 1>took a sample group of thirty six people, broke them

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<v Speaker 1>into two groups, and then put them through a series

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<v Speaker 1>of rigorous cognitive test He then let each group take breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>one group walking around the city street and the other

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<v Speaker 1>through a secluded wooded park. Now, of course, who do

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<v Speaker 1>you think performed better on the cognitive tests later on?

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<v Speaker 1>And and of course memory being one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>the nature group, Because the idea is that strolling in

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<v Speaker 1>a city forces the brain to constantly remain vigilant as

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<v Speaker 1>you navigate cars and people, and you sets out the

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<v Speaker 1>relevant information from from irrelevant information. Um, so for instance, relevant,

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<v Speaker 1>oh don't say up in that poop? Irrelevant there's a

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<v Speaker 1>sale on bras right, Um. The end result is that

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<v Speaker 1>those those city walkers are having a less restorative scenario

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<v Speaker 1>for their brains. In your prefrontal cortex is very occupied,

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<v Speaker 1>so your cognitive functioning in terms of learning is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be as great. So it kind of takes

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<v Speaker 1>our sort of everyday myopic view of the world that

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<v Speaker 1>the flashlight view, and maybe opens it up a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit a little more lamp like where're actually absorbing sense

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<v Speaker 1>data a little more openly. Yeah, because you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>calm environment, Um, you don't have to worry about what's

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<v Speaker 1>coming next so much. And of course it's fascinating too

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<v Speaker 1>when you you start then asking the question, well, how

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<v Speaker 1>much time do when you spend out of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm spending this enormous like like hovering near nine of

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<v Speaker 1>my life is spent indoors, So how much of that

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<v Speaker 1>do I have to give back? Like some impossible amount

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<v Speaker 1>do I have to give back? Well, studies show that

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<v Speaker 1>just five minutes a day can give you that boost

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<v Speaker 1>in mental health. Just five minutes, Like that's that's not

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<v Speaker 1>even that's not even all of your lunch break, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just that's just a leaving work five minutes early

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, that's from two thousand and ten research

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<v Speaker 1>published in the journal Environmental Science and Technology, and they

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<v Speaker 1>looked at self esteem and nature. And they found that

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<v Speaker 1>just that the five minutes of people who were engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in exercise, cycling, walking, running, gardening, farming. Um, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had that amount of time, then your self esteem and

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<v Speaker 1>your mood would be elevated. And of course they measured

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<v Speaker 1>this using standard psychological tests before and after the activities.

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<v Speaker 1>Now smoke breaks don't count though, right, uh, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>recall that being covered. We depend, I guess on the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of your smoke break, but probably not so. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea begins to emerge. We should frolic outdoors daily

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<v Speaker 1>for at least five minutes more if possible. But is

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<v Speaker 1>there something to spring itself? Are these day ease of

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<v Speaker 1>sunshine really special in that sense of of re emergence?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that well founded? Is that not just symbolic? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you should we just take off spring some work. Well

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<v Speaker 1>there's spring break, of course, which you know, to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain extent, just one week. Yeah, but the whole season? Yes? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah, this gets into the whole question. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>not only link between spring and mood, but is there

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<v Speaker 1>a link between weather and mood, between climate and modd Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how much of what's going on in the environment is

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<v Speaker 1>affecting my mental state to begin with. Right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna answer that very question. Alright, we're back, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're discussing this question. Does the weather, does the climate?

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<v Speaker 1>Does this everything going on outside the window? Does it

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<v Speaker 1>affect affect our mood? And we often fall into the

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<v Speaker 1>trap of thinking that it just universally does. We've all

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<v Speaker 1>seen the cartoon image of the depressed person with their

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<v Speaker 1>own personal rain cloud hovering over their head, right, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and so, and it's easy to fall into that trap

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<v Speaker 1>of say thinking that, well, everyone in Seattle must be

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<v Speaker 1>depressed because it's raining all the time. Or I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to boost my mood. I want to move somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>where the weather is nicer, and therefore my internal weather

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<v Speaker 1>will be nicer as well. But when you actually analyze it,

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't really hold up. No. Matthew Keller, a lead

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<v Speaker 1>researcher of the meta study at Warm Heart and a

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<v Speaker 1>Clear Head the Contingent Effects of weather on mood and cognition, says, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone thinks weather effects mood, But the biggest test of

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<v Speaker 1>this theory in two thousand. In the year two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>found no relationships. So we went back and found that

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<v Speaker 1>there are two important variables, how much time you spend

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<v Speaker 1>outside and what the season is. If you go from

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<v Speaker 1>winter to spring and spend enough time outside, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a noticeable change. So it's this change that's key. This

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<v Speaker 1>this emergence from the dark into the light, from the

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<v Speaker 1>cold into the warm, and actually getting out there and

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing it. That's what can actually make a difference on

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<v Speaker 1>your cognitive state. Yeah, and it is a certain degree

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<v Speaker 1>of temperature that will actually make the biggest impact on

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<v Speaker 1>your state of mind. And we'll talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about Keller's research, but I just wanted to mention

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<v Speaker 1>that all of this has to do with spring, because

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<v Speaker 1>a peak mood occurred at sixty seven point four degrees fahrenheiten.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of the goldilocks of temperature and not

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<v Speaker 1>too cold, not too hot that you see in spring.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we talk about some of these different aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of the research, to keep in mind that that's the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect spring day weather right where you've got the blue

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<v Speaker 1>skies and um, you know, you're just as comfortable as

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<v Speaker 1>you can be. It's almost like the metaphor of being

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<v Speaker 1>in the womb and floating around and in your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the edges of your body just melting into everything else

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<v Speaker 1>around you. Maybe you don't have the exact feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>that when you go out your front door in that weather,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is a feeling of comfort. Well yeah, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we often do have that that feeling. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes back to that whole realization, Hey, the weather

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<v Speaker 1>is nice enough outside. I don't have to turn on

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<v Speaker 1>the heat. I don't have to turn the air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>I can open a window. Or you walk outside in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring day and you say, hey, it's nicer outside

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<v Speaker 1>than it is indoors, which is such an insane thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say, but but but it's true. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>feel the edges of your body melting around you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you think, ah, I felt this before somewhere. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about these studies. There was one in which

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<v Speaker 1>nineties seven people reported their mood and how much time

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<v Speaker 1>they spent outside. Then they were asked to remember a

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<v Speaker 1>series of numbers. They were also given a short favorable

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<v Speaker 1>description of a fake employee, and then they were given

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<v Speaker 1>additional unfavorable information about that same person and asked to

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<v Speaker 1>assess the employee's competence in performance on the days with

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<v Speaker 1>high pressure, that's the clear, sunny days when you have

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<v Speaker 1>high barometric pressure. People who spent more than thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>outside saw an increase in memory, mood, and flexible thinking styles.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who spent the time indoors, though, they saw a decrease.

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<v Speaker 1>So when they talk about flexible thinking styles, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a sense of openness. So they were regarding that

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<v Speaker 1>employee and some of the more unsavory details about that

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<v Speaker 1>person in a more open minded way and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>giving them a pass on those days that there was

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful weather and they were spending a good chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>it outside. Interesting. Interesting, Now the second experiment that has

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<v Speaker 1>a D twenty one people spend time outside, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>or inside on a warm, clear, beautiful day. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever had that experience where you you both have been

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<v Speaker 1>outside just frolicking, or you've been inside chained to your

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<v Speaker 1>computer looking longingly outside. Yeah, kind of think. I had

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<v Speaker 1>one of those days last week where it was inside

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<v Speaker 1>here the office all day doing stuff, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>went outside at the end of the day to go

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<v Speaker 1>home and realize it was beautiful, and I felt this

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<v Speaker 1>this deep sadness because I knew that one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few uh nice days that we have in the city

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<v Speaker 1>was lost to me. Well, that is exactly what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in this experiment. Of course, people who went outside their

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<v Speaker 1>moves were lifted. Uh, they felt great, they had some

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<v Speaker 1>pep in their step. But the people who were changed

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<v Speaker 1>to their desks and made to stay inside were angry

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Now, they weren't physically chained in the experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth noting just just to be clear. No, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a rope. There's a rope. Yeah, we don't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to rub too much, exactly. Yeah. And then the third study,

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<v Speaker 1>the researchers collected data through a website from three eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven respondents who lived in various climates, because what they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do here is to try to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the northern climates that they are already in and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that they had some other representations of climates

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the world. And they correlated the submissions with the

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<v Speaker 1>weather in each city for that day, and they found

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<v Speaker 1>that participants who spent more time outside during the spring

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<v Speaker 1>but not during any other season had better moods overall.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, everyone is coming outside everythone is emerging. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that that the flower is opening to the warmth

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<v Speaker 1>of a world, society is is coming alive again. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>creeping outside of the cave. But it turns out there's

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<v Speaker 1>a dark side to this as well, and to understand it,

0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.960
<v Speaker 1>we have to first back up a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas time. Now. Now, Christmas, the holidays, whatever you want

0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.280
<v Speaker 1>to call them, whatever they are to you, they are

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<v Speaker 1>essentially the around the darkest times of the winter, when

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<v Speaker 1>things are at their at their their their blackest, things

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<v Speaker 1>are at their coldest, And a lot of what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on there at a deeper level, is about the hope

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<v Speaker 1>that spring will come again, that if we do right

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<v Speaker 1>by nature, by the God, by God's by ourselves, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>we can survive the rest of this night and emerge

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<v Speaker 1>into springtime. And there's this myth that has just stayed

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<v Speaker 1>with us, largely because it's repeated over and over again

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<v Speaker 1>in the media that suicide rates are hired during the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's an easy one to buy, because, yeah, people

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<v Speaker 1>get down sometimes in the holidays. They can be a

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<v Speaker 1>little sad. You know, suddenly you're having the holidays and

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<v Speaker 1>someone that you've lost isn't there with you anymore, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, you're experiencing some degree of seasonal effective disorder.

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<v Speaker 1>The world's dark, everything's colder. Maybe that's getting you down

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But according to the Anneburg Public Policy Center,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the idea that to suicide rates peaked during the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays is complete, complete bunk, and the media should stop

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<v Speaker 1>repeating it and driving home this falsehood. Yeah, Brian Palmer,

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<v Speaker 1>writing for Sleep magazine, says it's a convenient narrative that

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<v Speaker 1>would keep picking up lonely people becoming despondent around Christmas time. Um,

0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the real information here is that suicide actually peaks in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring and summer, and if you start to try

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<v Speaker 1>to sess out all of the reasons why, it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult. Now. Um, when Palmer was writing this article

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<v Speaker 1>for Sleep magazine about suicide upticks in spring and summer,

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<v Speaker 1>he went through some various theories about it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to say that there's no one like unified

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<v Speaker 1>theory here, and a lot of it has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with that person's particular circumstances, not just because this person

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<v Speaker 1>happened to work in this kind of job in Uruguay

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, but we should probably run through it

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<v Speaker 1>because it is really interesting. The one that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>during the most with the most truth for me is

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<v Speaker 1>the is the sociodemographic factor. And this is the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that during winter, what are you doing. You're surviving the winter.

0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.560
<v Speaker 1>You're kind of hibernating in some way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're you're buckling down, You're you're you're just

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<v Speaker 1>about get through the holidays, get through the new year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, throw in you know, weird work schedules and

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<v Speaker 1>trips and more time with the family. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna very case to case, obviously, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say that throughout this this winter you are

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<v Speaker 1>you're keeping it close. You know, you're shutting off, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not really dealing with as many people, uh in the

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<v Speaker 1>outside world. But then when spring comes, everyone's getting out

0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and about uh there, you know, suddenly everyone has new

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<v Speaker 1>projects that you're launching at work. It's not about just

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.680
<v Speaker 1>let's get through all the weird works I all the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>It's suddenly like, let's have meetings and get things done.

0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Let's start building things together. Oh and then oh and

0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 1>then taxes are here. We have to pay the taxes

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.400
<v Speaker 1>as well. Uh, Suddenly the socio demographics of the world

0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:15.240
<v Speaker 1>around you are erupting and coming together, and things that

0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.960
<v Speaker 1>say that, you know, problems in your life that you

0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.359
<v Speaker 1>might have been able to to dodge by hiding from them,

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly you're not able to hide from them as well,

0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, or plans that you had made, Uh suddenly

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.400
<v Speaker 1>have to come together in a different way. I mean

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:34.439
<v Speaker 1>it's you're suddenly exposed to more frustration, more conflict in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, and if, if, and and that can spill

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<v Speaker 1>over into self destruction. Yeah. A good example of this

0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.719
<v Speaker 1>is the paper is Occupation Relevant and Suicide and this

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<v Speaker 1>studied suicides in Finland during the years of nine and

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<v Speaker 1>what it found is that the spring suicide peak is

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<v Speaker 1>more pronounced among people employed on farms or in factories,

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<v Speaker 1>who experience greater seasonal variation in the intense of work

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<v Speaker 1>and social interactions. In addition, developing countries with a higher

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<v Speaker 1>proportion of agriculture workers see more seasonal changes in the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the suicide rate than you developed countries, and

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer says that the magnitude of seasonal changes in suicide

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<v Speaker 1>rate is more than ten times higher in Uruguay, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>than in Belgium, because suddenly the pressure is on let's

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:24.440
<v Speaker 1>get it, let's grow things. We have to plant things.

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>The cycle is is is heating up at the farm,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore the pressure is on you. There's more frustration

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and and that can spill over. Now there are just

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<v Speaker 1>there's a raft of controversial studies linking something like allergens

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<v Speaker 1>or even temperature spikes to suicide rates. But there's really

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<v Speaker 1>no one weather pattern or one variable that you can

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<v Speaker 1>point to when it comes to those studies. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to spend much time other than to just

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that they are out there. Yeah, because you start

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<v Speaker 1>breaking and they're like with a lot of things, especially

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<v Speaker 1>things that involve human behavior and its interaction with other factors.

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<v Speaker 1>You start looking for that unified theory and things start

0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 1>breaking down. Uh, there's no there's no single argument for

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<v Speaker 1>why people are going to you know, be more suicide

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 1>prone in the spring or summer that matches up with

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<v Speaker 1>one particular variable, right, Because there's another subset of people

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<v Speaker 1>who have committed suicide and they happen to be cubical workers,

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and this their uptick is in September, So you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just say across the board it's spring and summer and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just agriculture workers. There's all sorts of factors going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. But I think the real point here is

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<v Speaker 1>that the darkest days for humans is not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in December and the holidays. This it's just this myth

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that we perpetuate that this idea of moods and chemicals

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<v Speaker 1>that create our moods are far more nuanced than just

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.919
<v Speaker 1>saying boom, this is what happens. Yeah. Spring is about

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<v Speaker 1>the world coming to life again, the world that you

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<v Speaker 1>live in, and that can be a really happy thing,

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<v Speaker 1>that can also be a really depressing thing, are very

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 1>RESTful thing. Yeah, So it depends on your individual circumstance

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<v Speaker 1>really in a number of ways. So Robert, now that

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<v Speaker 1>you know about the International Pillow Fight that we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days to prepare here, will you be participating? No,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd probably have to bring my son there and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want him to see a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>grown people hitting each other with pillows and sleeping. No.

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Pillows are for expressing your love and your angst. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's as you said, that we we

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<v Speaker 1>uh we survived it, We survived the wintertime. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and just whack each other silly. Okay, Well

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<v Speaker 1>maybe next year, maybe next year. All right, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. You're just saying that, we'll see, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Uh, we should do a little bit of mail. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me call over the robot and let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>This one comes to us from Lena. Lena says, Dear

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<v Speaker 1>Robert and Julie, I really enjoyed your podcast, The Illusion

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<v Speaker 1>of Continuity because I'm in ap psychology and we just

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<v Speaker 1>finished our unit on sensory and perception. It was incredibly interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I had never realized the extent to which my senses

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be trusted. However, the brain is also extraordinary and

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<v Speaker 1>its ability to fill in gaps, filter out on necessary stimuli,

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<v Speaker 1>and make sense of complex images. It seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>more science figures out the human brain, the more questions

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<v Speaker 1>one could ask about it. The dance and Spider Man

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<v Speaker 1>gift really cracked me up by the way. I played

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<v Speaker 1>K pop and some other songs and it worked, although

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<v Speaker 1>I could see some discontinuity, but maybe that was my

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<v Speaker 1>years of music lessons kicking in. I love your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up the amazing work, Lena. All right, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>one more here, and this is from Iona and in

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<v Speaker 1>the subject line it says this one has a really

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<v Speaker 1>cute cat gift. And indeed she did attach a gift

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<v Speaker 1>of a cat on hind length hind legs a kittie.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that a trick that she played on this to

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<v Speaker 1>to try and make sure that we read this particular

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<v Speaker 1>email and I didn't get lost. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>it worked. If it was, it worked, um, says Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert and Julian needed to let you know that Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to Blow Your Mind is my favorite podcast and makes

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<v Speaker 1>my daily commute on the Northern Line, known to Londoners

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<v Speaker 1>as the most oppressing of all the two blinds, bearable.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for all your hard work.

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<v Speaker 1>Your podcast about the Night Janitor reminded me of the

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<v Speaker 1>short story The Sweeper of Dreams by Neil Diamond, which

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<v Speaker 1>runs with the same analogy. It's super short, so it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't take long to read, and you can see it

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<v Speaker 1>here or there's a video of Diamond reading it. Allowed

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<v Speaker 1>I managed to listen to your musical time Machine for

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<v Speaker 1>the Brain podcast. On the same day I read this

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<v Speaker 1>essay on why we love repetition and music by the

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<v Speaker 1>director of the Music Cognition Lab at Arkansas University, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>my mind was blown. This one isn't a super short read,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is really interesting and even has audio clips

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<v Speaker 1>where you can see how looping words make them seem

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<v Speaker 1>as if they are being sung. That's about it again,

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<v Speaker 1>Please never stop. Thank you Iona. Awesome. It's always comforting

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<v Speaker 1>to know that people are listening to us on the

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<v Speaker 1>Tube Because I I have a thing for trains and

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<v Speaker 1>underground trains especially so I fondly remember all the time

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<v Speaker 1>I got to spend on the London too when I visited,

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<v Speaker 1>so I I love the idea that we're reaching people

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<v Speaker 1>in those underground spaces. I feel like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>hook up with Robin Hitchcock someday. Yeah, the the the

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<v Speaker 1>singer songwriter, because he has an obsession with trains and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, he has an album called I Often Dream

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<v Speaker 1>of Trains. I will have to check that out, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do love that she was reading that essay

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time that she was checking out the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about music and how it works on the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool. One final bed here, I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>point out we uh we We did the episode on

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<v Speaker 1>on the Verry Wide Effect and why Barry White's voice

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<v Speaker 1>resonated with us so much, and we asked the question,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the new Berry White? Are there any voices

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<v Speaker 1>out there in the current world that are filling the

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<v Speaker 1>same space you know, for us that are it's able

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<v Speaker 1>to be you know, alluring but also safe. Uh. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people pointed out Neil de grass Tyson, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting choice. I love Neil de grass Tyson. I think

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when he's an argumentative mode, which is awesome because

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<v Speaker 1>there are things that Neil de grass and Tyson needs

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<v Speaker 1>to argue about, and only he can argue about them.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially only he can. Yeah, only he can. He has

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<v Speaker 1>the probaged position of doing it and has all the

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<v Speaker 1>tools to win the argument. But you know, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe he's a little less Verry White in that

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<v Speaker 1>particular mode. Wow, I was just thinking the opposite. I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking in Cosmos he's a little too soft, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a little too reassuring, and that when he's fired up,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a little bit more of the kind of breathiness. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, I guess it comes down to what

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<v Speaker 1>do you want out of your Neil deGrasse. Tyson's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like two two flavors there. Other people mentioned Bennedict Cumberbatch, who,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, uh this in addition to looking kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like an honor, which we discussed in an upcoming video,

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<v Speaker 1>also has a phenomenal voice that's nice and deep and

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<v Speaker 1>British and uh, you can't help but to fall under

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<v Speaker 1>its spell. So I think that's a decent suggestion as well,

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of places you can do that. You

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