1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm charging my son rent even though he inherited the house. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: My wife is furious, but I just love taking his money. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole? 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: This sounds pretty cut and dry. If it's his son's house, 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 2: it's his son's house, then like he shouldn't be having 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: to pay rent on it. So his presumed father. 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: You just don't know the value of a hard days 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: of work. And uh, you know you gotta you gotta 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: you gotta get some tough loving here, you know, tough love. 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: I would never pay rent for a home that I owned. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: You would never pay rent for a home that you owned. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you should pay rent to the owner. They 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: should be paying rent to him. 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Well, uh, maybe you are gonna have wild children that 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: don't respect you. So let's get into it. My oldest son, 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: twenty four is not my wife's biological child and is 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: my child with my late wife. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: What was she late for? 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: My late wife and I brought a three bedroom house 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: when we got married. When I remarried, my current wife 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: moved into this house with me, but I never put 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: her name on the deed. The house was only in 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: my name. My wife and I ended up having several 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: children and needing to move into a bigger house. When 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: we bought our new home, she wanted to sell the 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: old one. I said no, that this house was something 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: my late wife and I purchased with the hope of 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: one day passing it on to our son. 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: It's really nice. 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's thoughtful. Yeah, super thoughtful. I would make it 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: a rental property instead. That was one of the biggest 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: fights we ever had. She insisted we compromise, but I 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: refuse to do so. I mean, it's his house. 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: It's his house, yeah. 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: And it's attached to the memory of his late wife. 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Who knows where she is. They had this dream 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: for this house, and it makes sense that they'd still 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: keep it. Yeah, exactly, keep her memory live. She's dead, 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: the wife is, Yes, I thought she was just late. 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: Late to what. 41 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: Late to lead alive. That was a bad job, all right. 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: When my son graduated from college, I put his name 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: on the deed to the house with mine, which was 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: another fight, but I felt he was the appropriate inheritor 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: to his mother's share, which is true. I didn't share 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: any of the rental income with him, though, as I 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: was still paying all the taxes and insurance. At this point, 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: the mortgage is payoff. At this point, the mortgage is 49 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: pay off, so he's still paying the taxes and insurance. 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: But I imagine it's not the same amount as the 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: rent that he's getting from the person. I can be 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: I can guess. Yeah, so he's still pocketing money. 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: It's probably pocketing money. 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, even though he's paying, he is paying for it, 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: but he's pocketing money. Okay, so actually this we were 56 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: getting ahead of ourselves. I met over two thousand a 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: month from this house, which goes into the household budget. 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: My son just got engaged and wants to move into 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: the house after he marries his fiance. He suggested he 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: pays half the rent and eventually buy out my share 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: of the house. I told my son I agreed to 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: his plan of saving up to buy out my share, 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: but instead of paying rent, he should just take over 64 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: the taxes and insurance. 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: Which is good. I think that's a really fair. That's fair. 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: That's fair. 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: We agreed to this. But my wife is livid and 68 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: says I am a major, massive asshole for dramatically decreasing 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: our household income without consulting her. She likened my decision 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: to financial abuse. 71 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: I think this new wife needs to go. 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: She needs to be late too. 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: What are you suggesting Sam's murder? 74 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I suggested be downsize to a smaller house now that 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: our oldest two kids are leaving the nest, and we 76 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: can rent out the larger one and be in the 77 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: same situation as before, owning two homes and getting rental 78 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: income from one. She called me a selfish prick and 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: won't speak to me now, so am the asshole? 80 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: James? 81 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: There is an update. We're gonna get into it. I 82 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: swear to all things that are holy. But what do 83 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: you think is Ope the asshole? Based on what we 84 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: know so. 85 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: Far, I think Op is not the asshole. Like they're 86 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: his homes, he pays for them. Like, what the what 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: does the wife do this new wife, this new wife. Yeah, 88 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: besides being complain this is why I don't have a wife. 89 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the only reason, the only reason, the only reason 90 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a wife. I uh, I don't know. 91 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: I feel like this is like. 92 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: She it feels like it's attached to his previous family 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: and his his late wife and so like, and also 94 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: his son that's outside of the marriage that he's currently in. 95 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: And so I feel like all that is kind of 96 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: like like he needs to do right by his previous 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: wife and his son, and like the house is tied 98 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: up in that. So I don't think the current wife 99 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: can get mad at that. 100 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the current wife should be mad 101 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: because like, if anything, like they're removing that part of 102 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: they're removing the past by like passing it down to 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 2: the child and then they don't have to think about anymore. 104 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: There's no more attachment to the X or the late wife. 105 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: But if you were expecting like two k additional a 106 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: month that now you're not getting for household income and 107 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: you weren't consulted on that, would he be mad? 108 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: I mean, not necessarily because there's been a new suggestion. 109 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think maybe the only thing op 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: might be doing wrong is not being as straightforward about 111 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: what's going on and not consulting his current wife, even 112 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: though at the end of the day he probably like 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: it's his decision, his decision alone to make. 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like the op is has presented a 115 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: very good solution of them, like downsizing because they're not 116 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: going to need more space since they're going to be 117 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: empty nesters soon and they're going to they can collect 118 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: the same amount of extra income from the house that 119 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: they put up for rent when they move out of 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: that one into the smaller place. 121 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: It feels like a really good solution. But let's get 122 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: to the update and see what we learned. So looking 123 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: at the outside points of view was enlightening. So this 124 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: is from the Reddit community. This house is very complicated 125 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: for me. I bought this house with my first wife, 126 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and for a long time it represented the life not lived, 127 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: a past that can't be reclaimed. Every room held memories 128 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: that were a pitfall of emotion. One of the biggest 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: fights I ever had with my current wife was about 130 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: repainting the toddler's room, which I had last repainted with 131 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: my late wife. It's a lot of memories. Moving out 132 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: of that house probably saved my marriage. We got to 133 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: start over in a home that was just hours So 134 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: while yes, the home is a financial asset, it's also 135 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: a source of emotional turmoil. Each time I walk inside, 136 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: I'm hit with a bittersweet feeling as I remember something 137 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: I did there with my late wife. Well, it's fucking sad. 138 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: That was really sad, but like kind of cute, kind 139 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: of reminds me of. 140 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, how is this whole memory. 141 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: Do do do do do do do do do do do. 142 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: Do do do do And then that one part was. 143 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: Like doo doo doo do do do do do do. 144 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm already you're not man. 145 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: Do do do do? Mm hmmmmm. 146 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: That was beautiful. 147 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, fucking sad movie, eds, you can cut a 148 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: lot of that. Uh So, anyway, I took my son 149 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: and his fiancee to dinner. I talked to them about 150 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: the house and what it represents. They talked about their 151 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: plans to start a family there, just like his mom 152 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: and I did. That made me emotional, should be emotional? 153 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: Fuck damn, I said. I wanted to go ahead and 154 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: put the house in both their names, even though they 155 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: weren't married yet. 156 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I don't know that. You know, 157 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: I was. 158 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I was with you up until that's that's a bad idea, 159 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: horrible idea. Why would you do that? It's his girlfriend 160 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: or fiance but still, bro. 161 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: So they're not married yet, they're not married. It should 162 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: just be in your son's name. Yes, I agree, bro? 163 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: Fuck all right? 164 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: You know I was so, I was like tearing up 165 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: for you and then you just make those bonus for you? 166 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: What have you done. 167 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe you would do this usdus to me 168 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: and James. I've been thinking a lot about his mom lately, 169 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: and I think that is what she would want. They 170 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: aren't going to pay me for anything, but they are 171 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: insisting on paying all fees associated with drawing up a 172 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: new deed, which is fine. They also don't want me 173 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: to contribute anything financially to the wedding anymore. I agree 174 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: with these things, although I still want to get them 175 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: a gift. For a long time that house has been 176 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: full of strangers. But now my late wife's pictures will 177 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: be on the walls again and her family will grow inside. 178 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 2: It's really sweet and special. 179 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, super sweet. I think she will like that. Deep down, 180 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: I always thought of that house as hers, So this 181 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: makes me happy. Okay, so that's one half of the conversation. 182 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Now we're getting the conversation with a current wife. Yic 183 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: wife number two, bitch wife has we you have bitch wife? 184 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: All right? 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: So the conversation with my conversation with my wife was 186 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: a little more complicated. When I told her about giving 187 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: them the houses, not having them buy me out, and 188 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: I was going to do it before the wedding. She 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: was really annoyed. She said it was a dumb decision 190 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: and that I was taking a huge financial risk on 191 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: someone not even related to me, my son's fiance, which 192 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: bitch wife has a point. 193 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: She does have a point. She has a point, she 194 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: has a point. 195 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: We kind of maybe we're bitches too, But I you know, 196 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: I think most of it were right, Most of it 197 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: were right, but this specific point, Yeah, I don't think 198 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: she's bitch wife is right. 199 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 200 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: She asked what I would do if they broke up. 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: We argued for a while, but she eventually said she 202 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: was done talking about it. But she was very disappointed 203 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: in me. We've lived in our current house six and years. 204 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: It's a massive home that we don't really need anymore. 205 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: With one kid moved out and two kids on the 206 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: verge of moving out, I think we should downsize from 207 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: a six bedroom to a four bedroom. How loaded are 208 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: they bedroom? 209 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 210 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 2: And they only have three kids. 211 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: But I'm going to wait until she isn't mad anymore 212 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: to suggest this again. With the way the real estate 213 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: market has gone, we could rent out the individual rooms 214 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: in this house for close to three times what our 215 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: mortgage payment is and live in a smaller, more manageable property. 216 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: She may or may not go for this, it depends regardless. 217 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: We are in a fine financial situation. I feel good 218 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: about my decision. It isn't about the money, which it 219 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: seems like they're fucking fine, like financial arrest. I don't 220 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: know what she's talking about. It like it seems like 221 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: they're gonna be financially fun. I feel good about my decision. 222 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: It isn't about the money. It's about honoring those who 223 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: are gone. And I feel like I did. 224 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: That and setting up your child for success exactly exactly 225 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: his kid. 226 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and I and it's like it didn't belong 227 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: to the bitch wife. Bitch wife has no claim over 228 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: this house. 229 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: I love that you call her bitch wife. 230 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: That's just her name in my head. You gotta you 231 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: gotta associate between late late wife and late. 232 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: Wife and bitch wife. Yeah yeah, bitch wife has no 233 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: claim to this house. I don't know why she thinks 234 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: she has a. 235 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: Say no no, but I would really be curious what 236 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: you guys would do in this situation if your you know, 237 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: uh good wife died and then you're you know, you're 238 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: your good wife. If if you're If you're you're late 239 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: significant you're you're late significant other died, you're late. I 240 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: guess that's the double. If your significant other died and 241 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: you had a house with that significant other and then 242 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: you got a new worst wife or a new worst 243 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: significant other, would you share that original house with your 244 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: worst significant other or would you give it to your 245 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: original child with a good wife. Let us know in 246 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: the comments, and for all of you guys still here, James, 247 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: we kind of referenced it at the top of the episode. 248 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: Oh but can you tell me about what is this? 249 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Halloween twenty nineteen? 250 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what do you want to know? 251 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: Well, I want to know what you got up to 252 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: that night? 253 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: Well, you were with me, I was so for a 254 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: little bit. For was it with you the whole time? 255 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Not the whole time? There was a moment where I 256 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: made a brief I had a brief recess with another 257 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: person I met out. Okay, how did you meet this person? 258 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: What was and him? I honestly have no idea. I 259 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 2: just remember he was wearing a backpack and I convinced 260 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: him to go outside of the club. And the club 261 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: was it the abbey? No, it was not the abbey. 262 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 2: It was flaming saddles and peace. So pulled outside of 263 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: the club. 264 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: Yes, of flaming saddles, what do you say? 265 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: Pulled him outside of the club, And I was like, 266 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: you know, I was hoping to have a little bit 267 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: of an excursion at his place because I just didn't 268 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: want to take anybody back to mine. It just either 269 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: my place was too messy at the time, or I 270 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: just like didn't want to have to deal with kicking 271 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: somebody out, And so I was like suggesting that we 272 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: go back to his place. And so we like walked 273 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: for a while and we're like definitely like making out 274 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: on the sidewalk and whatever. 275 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: And it's packed. This is a whole sidewalk, it is 276 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: street is crowded. Yeah, it's crowded. 277 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: The street is closed down, there's people everywhere and way 278 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: super sexy man. Yes, it's probably like yeah, midnight, midnight. 279 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't want to leave. I don't know, But 280 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: we like walked down a side street and I'm like, 281 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: all right, are you gonna call the uber or whatever? 282 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: And he's like being all weird. So we're like making 283 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: out a little bit more and then it just like 284 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: starts to get really hot and heavy, heavy, very hot 285 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: and heavy, which lead to it's so heavy that we 286 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: were on the sidewalk where people were walking around us 287 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: making out. And at some point, and I don't know 288 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: who initiated what, a zipper got pulled down and I 289 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: may or may not have done something. 290 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: What do you do? 291 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: Do you zip it back up? I may have left 292 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: the zipper undone and did something with my mouth to 293 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: a stranger, a. 294 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: Guy, not just in public, in the middle of the street, 295 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: but in literally the most crowded I've ever seen a 296 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: street in all of my years of life. There were 297 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: see there was a sea of people moving through this 298 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: street and there's James on his knees doing what he 299 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: does best. 300 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: God, how do you know what I do best? 301 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: You know, I've heard reports, I've heard reports, and I've experienced. Well, James, 302 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: thanks for that sexy, sexy story. If you want fifty 303 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: Shades of Gay, tell us in the comments that you 304 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: want James back the new podcast. That's a new pocket. 305 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Fifty Shades of Gay. Yeah, it probably already exists, right, 306 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: probably fifty Yeah, it's too good. 307 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: It's too good. 308 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming on this episode, James, and thank 309 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: you for all being here. We love you so much. 310 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: One kisses right to your nose and we'll see him 311 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: be nice. I just found out my real father is 312 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: a drunk that tried to kidnap me and send me 313 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: to foster care. You know, it's kind of a bummer 314 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: like it kinda kind of such. Only does your dad 315 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: not want a functional liver? He doesn't want you either. 316 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to function. This literally happened yesterday, or 317 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: at least the conclusion up until now did. Me and 318 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: my brother took twenty three and me tests for fun 319 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: around Christmas time, which is like, again, you never do 320 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: twenty three and me tats for fun unless you want 321 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: family drama. 322 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: Yes, never, it never ends. 323 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Well no, no, it never does. When the results came back, 324 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: it suddenly showed us as being half siblingsoo dude, that 325 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: that is such a terrible. 326 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: Real just like such, you literally think someone is your 327 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: family still family, but like you think someone is your 328 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: your full brother, and then they're just not just. 329 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: Not, which thinking on it out makes sense as I 330 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: have dark hair and blue eyes and am relatively thin. He, 331 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: on the other hand, has a blonde hair and green 332 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: eyes and is of a stocky build. 333 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: What's your using name? 334 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 3: Boy? 335 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: Stock Man? What Stockman? Stock Man? 336 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: Stockman sixty? 337 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, confusion acide. We had completely different haplo groups, which 338 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: I guess just means different dads. 339 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: It ain't good. He ain't your daddy. 340 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Ain't your daddy? Now, growing up, I never had any 341 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: clue or reason to believe the man who raised me 342 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: was not my biological father. So last night I confronted 343 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: my mother about it, right, mom? So like, also, like 344 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: when you're confronting your mom about this stuff, like, is 345 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: it just like like instance, like I'm going to confront 346 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: my mom about this, I feel like I would want 347 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: more like information. I would do some sleuthing solo first 348 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: before like bringing it to the to the family. 349 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 4: Maybe just the emotional reaction, Yeah, emotion maybe like my 350 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: dad is a lie. 351 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Damn, my whole life is a lie. Basically it's rough. 352 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: I'm imagine realizing your whole life is alive. Terrible, dude, 353 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: awful terrible. At first, it was flat denial, and she 354 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: claimed the test had to be wrong. Twenty three and 355 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: meters ain't wrong, bro, But after some pushing and prodding, 356 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: she did admit that my real father. 357 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: Is not In fact, the man who raised me. 358 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: No. 359 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: See, this is why you need public data Check. You 360 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: did a check the facts before you go to moms, 361 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: so you actually have the receipts exactly. 362 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: Like you can instantly look up to see people's real 363 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: names or addresses, relatives, even if they have a criminal record. 364 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 365 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: So if you think you're adopted, or you want to 366 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: search for your real family and know if your fake 367 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: family is your fake family, look it up on public 368 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: data Check. Do it check public data check dot com 369 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: if you want to do some snoopin' my real father. 370 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: This is the reveal, the big reveal. Uh oh was 371 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: a doctor, lawyer, and astronaut all at the same time. 372 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Yes, buzzle doctor, buzzleter. 373 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just that he was so famous and good 374 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: looking that like, like his mom wanted to. 375 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: If he revealed his I didny, women would just be 376 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 4: banging on their door all night like they couldn't the 377 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: kids couldn't get any sleep. 378 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: So actually, no, he's not an astronaut, lawyer, doctor unfortunately. 379 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: Are you sure? I'm sure. 380 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure my real father was a drifter, not out 381 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: in space, but just through the lands. I'd be seeingoholic 382 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: who was raised in the foster system and who never 383 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: knew his real family. He wanted me aborted when he 384 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: found out my mother was pregnant with me. 385 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: Yikes. 386 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: My mother described him as a deeply lost person, but 387 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: also as an extremely intelligent individual, but the foster system 388 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: left him broken. She apparently tried when I was a 389 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: baby to let him forge a bond with me, but 390 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: he had very little urge to do so and eventually 391 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: threatened to kidnap me and bond with me. Oh, my 392 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: father and eventually threatened to kidnap me and drop me 393 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: off somewhere like as in foster care. 394 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: Jesus insane. 395 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: He worked a variety of jobs in the oil industry 396 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: of Louisiana and later became a worker for Carnival Interesting. 397 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: He died in two thousand and eight when I was nineteen, 398 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: from liver damage. Apparently the state wanted me to identify 399 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: the body at the time, but she stepped in and 400 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: stopped it because he had given up his parental rights 401 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: when I was young. So now I know my real father, 402 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: but all I have is a name and date of 403 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: birth and a date of death. And due to him 404 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: not knowing any of his family from being raised in 405 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: foster care. I have no idea if I have any 406 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: living family on my biological father's side. 407 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: Oh god. 408 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: And this kind of saddens me because my entire life 409 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: I have been very into my heritage and chasing my 410 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: family tree. 411 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: Man get like that. That sucks even harder. It's like 412 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 4: I never even thought about that. But it's like the 413 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: whole side of the family. Yeah, you know, but he 414 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 4: doesn't know, doesn't have anyway, Wow, no way of contacting. 415 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: That's sad. 416 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: I imagine like like I imagine that the family maybe 417 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: probably like it probably wasn't that great if they put 418 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: a kitten foster probably yeah, not really, there some issues 419 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: Family of the Year. Yeah, so hey, you know, just 420 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: love the family, you got op. 421 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. 422 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: And there's a little comment, Oh we're gonna read. My 423 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: mother told me that my birth could help my biological 424 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: father change his life. And when he wanted nothing to 425 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: do with me, my real father, the man who raised me, 426 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: told her, well, if he can't change his life, then 427 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: he can change mine. 428 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: Damn. 429 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: Stand up, Father of the frickin'. 430 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: Year, gonna make gonna gonna make me shed a thug 431 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: tear over here. 432 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: Back then, my mother was a bartender, and my dad, 433 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: who raised me, was in and out of jail constantly 434 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: for fighting, bar fights and such. After that, they moved 435 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: to the country and raised me and my brother and 436 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: never really set foot in bars again. 437 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 4: Wow, and wait was it the was it his like 438 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: foster dad that was getting in the fights or. 439 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: The this was the real dad or like the dad 440 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: that raised Yeah, so like I guess like both fathers 441 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: were kind of fucked up. The dad that raised op 442 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: cleaned up his. 443 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: Act, right, It's pretty good. Hey, hey, hey, you use 444 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: use use it to change yourself. 445 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: I like it. 446 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: You you change your dad's your fought, you change your 447 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: dad's life. Hey, that's pretty good. 448 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: There we go. Gotta love it. M