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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go live on a Friday ed issue

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Speaker 2: to Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely Bo the great

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Speaker 2: z Well, I'll get into the details of that.

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Speaker 3: That's so great.

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Speaker 2: Give it here, Just get waited.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tap dance all over him today.

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Speaker 2: Just jumping and tap dancing on the poor man's grave.

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Speaker 2: He's in Naples, what's not He's in Naples and he's

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Speaker 2: on assignment. I think it is accurate to say, and

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Speaker 2: no details please, but I think it's accurate to say

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Speaker 2: that this was the most important golf match that he's

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Speaker 2: ever played in terms of the way that I understand

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Speaker 2: the stakes. What was at stake? I think it probably was.

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Speaker 2: It was probably the most important golf match he's ever

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Speaker 2: played that in his life. And it didn't go well.

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Speaker 2: Now you know, I have called into my friends at

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Speaker 2: the PGA Tour and We're going to do a thorough

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Speaker 2: investigation of some of the handicaps that were used in

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Speaker 2: this match, because it doesn't seem to me like it

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Speaker 2: adds up to what happened. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: the results are the.

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Speaker 3: Results, I understand because I myself probably not the greatest

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Speaker 3: handicap in the world from a golf standpoint. That being said,

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Speaker 3: there were some handicaps involved. Yes, that made me look

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Speaker 3: like a PGA pro, And that means you shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: parring golf holes on a nice nice on the nice

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Speaker 3: golf course. No, you might get one in eighteen holes

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Speaker 3: if you have Yeah, if you are challenged golf wise.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, sometimes the handicaps, eh, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean sometimes a good handicap is actually a bad thing.

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Speaker 3: And maybe not for shure me to play today. For

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Speaker 3: for Nathan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's I don't know, he's either a

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Speaker 2: he's a very good player, and so like in order

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Speaker 2: for him to score in these type of events, he

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Speaker 2: really has to shoot sixties. I mean, he really needs

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Speaker 2: to birdy a bunch in order to make it work. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think this eat spot is you want to be

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Speaker 2: like a twelve. That's where you're If you're in the teens,

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Speaker 2: you're all right. Yeah yeah. If you're one of these

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Speaker 2: guys with with like twenty seven or something like that

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Speaker 2: and you make a par that's a win. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I get an update from Nick at one point, no

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Speaker 2: names please, but I get an update from Nick at

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Speaker 2: one point who said he's on in zero. What do

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Speaker 2: you mean he's on in zero?

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Speaker 3: That's not that's not an option. No, that's not.

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Speaker 2: A recipe for success.

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Speaker 3: That going to happen. No.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure we'll get a full breakdown with the

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Speaker 2: reasons that things happened and so forth.

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Speaker 3: But it was him. I have excuses. Fine, yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: good at it, But I mean there was a lot.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot. There was a lot riding on it,

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Speaker 3: future stake for all of us. Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 2: From what I understand, it was a pretty emphatic not

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Speaker 2: only are you not getting this, you're never getting this now.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of the sentiment that was that was shared.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, that's that's fine. I mean, make it

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Speaker 3: up to us by picking up the tab at almost

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Speaker 4: That's there, you go, that's that's the paper towers for everybody.

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Speaker 2: You'd be great, Anyboddy. We got some news here on

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Speaker 2: the day we was finally well look, and we did

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Speaker 2: say that that we thought that this would be announced

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Speaker 2: that organization has always done. You just you wait until

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Speaker 2: you kind of have everything and you release it all

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Speaker 2: at once. So we've talked about all these things individually

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Speaker 2: over the last two weeks, but today officially official in

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Speaker 2: terms of your new coordinators, your new there's elevations that

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Speaker 2: Let's start offensive coordinator Travis Switzer.

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Speaker 3: Sweitzer, No, no, no, no, I did not know that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that was brought to my attention by numerous people that

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Speaker 3: Travis Sweitzer, it is now. We haven't met any of

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Speaker 2: I know our guys we've seen obviously, we've seen them

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Speaker 2: haven't seen him yet. So Travis Sweitzer comes in. These

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Speaker 2: on these. He was our run game coordinator and that's

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Speaker 2: where it all starts, the ability to run the football.

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Speaker 2: So he's ready for the challenge. He's intentional, he's intelligent,

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Speaker 2: say attacking style, then there's attacking style, which is what

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Speaker 2: they've done here up front. I think that background of

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Speaker 2: It was what I was looking for. And so there

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Speaker 2: and then this one from coach on Byron Storer, your

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Speaker 2: new special teams coach. First off his journey going to

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Speaker 2: out of coaching, into the business world, and back into coaching.

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Speaker 2: Being with one of the best special teams to ever

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Speaker 2: He was more than ready. It was obvious when I

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Speaker 2: So there are the comments on that, and that is

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Speaker 2: some incredible high praise on that side of thing. From

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Speaker 2: We talked about that yesterday. Bonda interviewed this cycle for

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Speaker 2: Mike Rutenberg. So we are done in the big positions.

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Speaker 3: So the coordinators all announced, the a lot of the

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Speaker 3: They were still firming up some you know, because you

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Speaker 3: more titles in the top Monkin regime than maybe Kevin

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Speaker 3: will be announced next week. But they wanted to get

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Speaker 2: And Z talked about this a little bit yesterday. But

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Speaker 2: it seems like we are going to have a much

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Speaker 2: bigger staff than than last year. Yes, more coaches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's you're gonna have an assistant for the

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Speaker 3: quality control specialists Uh, you know, it's you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: but you retain the guys defensively. Offensively, we still have

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Speaker 3: especially on the offensive side of the football. I loved

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Speaker 3: what he had to say. Uh, him being Todd Monkin,

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Speaker 3: like on Travis Sweitzer, He's intentional. Yeah, no games, no

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Speaker 3: no bs, Nope. I like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm all into the theme.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean what he said about store, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know what I like about this. I mean, these

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Speaker 2: These are one thousand percent speaking out of Todd's mouth. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So that's you know, I think that's really that's cool

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Speaker 2: And I look forward to seeing what this staff is

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Speaker 2: lot of fun for Todd. This has been jumping on

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Speaker 3: I want to say there were probably nine or ten

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Speaker 3: They're in meetings. You know, they're trying to you know,

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Speaker 3: in addition to the guys he's hired or the guys

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Speaker 3: he's interviewing, the guys that are here already are trying

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Speaker 3: because the NFL combine was not Kevin Stefanski's favorite thing

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Speaker 3: to do. No, the coach would go, but he did

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Speaker 3: not make it confirmed or he did not make it mandatory,

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Speaker 3: I should say, for you know, all the other coaches

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Speaker 3: If there was an interview, then the coordinators or the

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Speaker 3: the front office stuff. Todd Mounkin is not like that.

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Speaker 3: He wants everybody going yeah, I can tell you we

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Speaker 3: and it jumped dramatically in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Well, but so did Doris remember that regime was that way?

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Speaker 2: But like, do you remember the year Freddie when Todd

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Speaker 2: What do you remember about the days leading into your

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Speaker 6: What do I recall about him? This is, unfortunately for me,

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Speaker 2: Then you were back. Yeah, then you're back to being you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the interviews are big, the medicals, but a

433
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: lot of them don't do a lot of the stuff

434
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: anyway now the way that they did in your day.

435
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: But for the guys who are the mid to late

436
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: round guys, you run one forty, you do one bench press,

437
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: one cone drill that is an outlier and all of

438
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: a sudden instead of a sixty or three. Those type

439
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: of things that, to me is what the combine is

440
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: now about your odd To me, that's the evolution of it.

441
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it certainly has evolved, because it's funny. I

442
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 6: was in the process of evolving to where players are

443
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 6: opting out and saying, now I'm not gonna run this.

444
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 6: I'm gonna pick and choose what I run as opposed

445
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 6: to doing everything. Because I can recall Bill Kauer, who

446
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 6: was coaching for the Steelers at the time. They made

447
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 6: him do like a speech motivating you guys need to

448
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 6: go out there and work out. This is for your

449
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 6: good and for us to evaluate you. How're we gonna

450
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 6: get a picture who you are if you don't go

451
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 6: out there and work out already the tie was turning

452
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 6: to where players are like, man helping me, What the heck,

453
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do this for you if you're gonna use

454
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Speaker 6: it against me?

455
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Speaker 3: Right?

456
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 6: Oh?

457
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: So they had Kaor already trying to hype up the event,

458
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: saying like, we need you to do this.

459
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he went. He hyped it up

460
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 6: and then we would proceed to do the bench press

461
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 6: and went from there. But he was certainly the guy

462
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 6: because they were just coming off losing the Super Bowl

463
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 6: to the Cowboys, so he was the most notoride notoride

464
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 6: figure there. So they had him do the motivational speech

465
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 6: and some guys listened to him, and some guys like, man,

466
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 6: forget what you're talking about. I am not doing that.

467
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: What would your advice be to an athlete going over

468
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: there that was that their intent was to participate, to

469
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: go through. What would your beast of advice be other

470
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: than don't get stuck with the roommate to snores.

471
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, other than that, man, have fun with it, be

472
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 6: professional with it. Understand it is a job interview. Be yourself,

473
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 6: but also too if there is something that's like a

474
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Speaker 6: narrative that's counter to your production and who you want

475
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 6: to be and become. Address it and definitely don't play

476
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 6: into it would be my best advice to give.

477
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there. There is still a great deal that

478
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: can be that can be done. Positive over there, but

479
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: there's it's both sides of the coin. You get the

480
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: positive and the negative. All right, let's have the conversation

481
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: about this Brown's operation as we now head into this

482
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: off season where ownership has coined it as one hundred

483
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: and twenty days and we're, you know, about a third

484
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 2: of the way through through it now in terms of

485
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 2: the building of this roster, and we've talked about a lot.

486
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: I know you guys have talked about it a lot.

487
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: We know that there's going to be a bunch of

488
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: new faces on offense, a ton of them on the

489
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: offensive front. You know, you need wide receiver help, probably

490
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: need a tight end if you're Andrew Berry, Todd Munkin

491
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: and the folks who are going to decide what this

492
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: roster looks like. And you got the draft, free agency,

493
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 2: trade markets, and that happens a lot of times at

494
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: the combine as you know, and then inevitably the drafting

495
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: of the players. By the time we get to April.

496
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: What is kind of your view of a checklist of

497
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: things that have to be done from this front office

498
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: and from this organization standpoint that all starts next week

499
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: in Indy.

500
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 6: Well one was starting in Indy, Okay. I am looking

501
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 6: at guys, obviously an offensive line and with offense that

502
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 6: play a part with offensive production. I have to look there.

503
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: That was the weakness of the team, of a clear weakness.

504
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 6: And on top of that, as we're well aware we're

505
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 6: we're might be in position where we're replace the whole

506
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 6: entire office line, especially if Joel Potonio doesn't come back.

507
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 6: So I gotta look at guys who I can potentially

508
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 6: draft first second, throughout the entire draft, all for first round,

509
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 6: all the way to free agent. I have to look

510
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 6: at that. And when I'm looking at I am looking

511
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 6: at guys who are gonna help me create an identity

512
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 6: with this offensive unit in that they're showing signs of toughness,

513
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 6: They're showing signs that they're gonna get after your you

514
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 6: know what, and I'm looking for that. I'm looking for

515
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 6: guys that have an edge to them. I'm not looking

516
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 6: for guys who's gonna go out there and do their job.

517
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't want those guys.

518
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 6: I want guys to where they may get into a

519
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 6: fight with Miles Garrett then, not that it's gonna be

520
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 6: about fighting, but you get my point in that they

521
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 6: are truly taking the mentality of be aggressive, b be aggressive,

522
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 6: and they show that throughout the course. And I'm not

523
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 6: just looking at their senior year. I'm seeing signs of

524
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 6: that as a sophomore, a junior, and a senior that

525
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 6: that's who they are, right So I'm looking at that

526
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 6: from offensive lines point, and then when I get the

527
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 6: free agency, who's that guy? Sccimply puts just a bad spot.

528
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 6: But when he's out there on the football field, he's aggressive,

529
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 6: he's getting after it. He just simply hasn't had opportunity

530
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 6: because those guys do exist. Forget Whytt Taylor was one

531
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 6: of those guys, remember, and then when he got his opportunity,

532
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 6: he shined. So I am certainly focusing on the offensive

533
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 6: line because it's still the case, BO, you win and

534
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 6: lose in the trenches. And we know that for sure

535
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 6: because we lost a lot of games due to the trenches.

536
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 6: And as far as receiver productivity is concerned, I actually

537
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 6: like a few guys in our receiving room. It's just

538
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 6: we need one or two more guys who are gonna

539
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 6: be consistent and make plays and give you that threat

540
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 6: that hey, anytime they touch the ball, beild a deep

541
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 6: pass or a short pass, they can make things happen

542
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 6: and spread this thing out. And I'm with you too,

543
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 6: I think we need something with the tight end position.

544
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 6: With it being said or thought that David's not coming

545
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 6: back because Harold was honestly phenomenal, but he's gonna need

546
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 6: somebody to run with him.

547
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, did the Seattle result change anything for you in

548
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: terms of how to build a contender? Because if you

549
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: think about it, you think about like a checklist of

550
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: things they had, Right, They had the best defense, Okay,

551
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: well we're close to that. They had really good offensive

552
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: line play but not. They didn't have like Joe Thomas

553
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: at left tackle, but they all wrote in the same direction.

554
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: They had the great run blocking. They had good stable

555
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: running backs, Okay, well, pretty good there. They had a

556
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: quarterback I think is a top twelve, you know, ten

557
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: to fifteen type guy, but I mean twenty eight games,

558
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: he didn't turn it over and when they needed to

559
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: be great, he went head to head with Stafford and

560
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: played as well as Stafford did, So that's probably the

561
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: hardest thing to get. And then the other thing that

562
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: they have though is they do have an ultimate weapon

563
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: in Jackson Smith and Jigba. They do have the offense

564
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: the game in football. They have the dude. So when

565
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: I look at us Gerard, it almost that is more

566
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: doable to me than what we've been chasing for twenty

567
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 2: five years, which is like Tom Brady, Mahomes Manning, like

568
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: that type, those franchise franchise quarterbacks. Those are hard to find.

569
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: But this other path, I don't know, gives you a

570
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: little hope.

571
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it should give you a lot of hope because

572
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 6: what we're saying now is roster construction. That's the new

573
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 6: buzz word, right and Seattle is the epitome of that

574
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 6: because they I mean, Darnl didn't break the bank with

575
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 6: his contract, and obviously there were still some skeptics who

576
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 6: were doubting whether or not he could be the guy,

577
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 6: and he certainly proved them wrong. But I think that

578
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 6: model is more conducive to winning because simply put, it

579
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 6: doesn't put the onus on one player. It spreads the

580
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 6: wealth from a salary cap standpoint, which is a good thing,

581
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 6: and also from the point of responsibility and accountability and

582
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 6: that we're all in this and you can literally look

583
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 6: to the roster and say, hey, we're gonna have to

584
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 6: make this happen, not this one guy showing up and

585
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 6: showing out like a Josh Allen scenario in Buffalo. But

586
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 6: we all have to contribute here. And yes, you do

587
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: need that difference maker. We certainly have on a defensive side,

588
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 6: but we need to find those guys and identify him

589
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 6: on the office aside. But it starts to front. And

590
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 6: when you look at Seattle again, that running game was

591
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 6: pivotwal They they got the job done when you couldn't

592
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 6: get it. T jig, but they were getting the job done.

593
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 6: But you still do, obviously have to have that threat

594
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 6: because you know what teams are going to do if

595
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 6: you don't have that guy. All right, run the ball.

596
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 6: I dare you, we'll just put twelve guys in a box,

597
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 6: even though there's eleven guys on.

598
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: A football field. No, that's that's it. And so what Yeah,

599
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: when I look at like this offseason, obviously we need

600
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: a lot of bodies up front. I mean, we need

601
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: we may need. It's possible you'd have five new starters

602
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: on the offensive line. I mean, that might be the

603
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: way that this shakes out. But I'm sitting there, I

604
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: have an open country trial both. I'm gonna text to

605
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: Hoff and see if he's got anything left in the tank.

606
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: Hey, why not?

607
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: It might be You're not wrong. I mean, it's a

608
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: lot of new faces up front, and then you have

609
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: to have that ultimate weapon thing. Now, we have only

610
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: drafted two wide receivers in the first round since returning

611
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: to the National Football League, Braylan Edwards and Corey Coleman.

612
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: My hunch is that changes this year. Where are you

613
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: on best versus most available? And I guess that's something

614
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: we'll figure out this week at the combine. Like, is

615
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: the difference between and let's just say for the sake

616
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: of this conversation, Carnal Tate's the number one receiver kind

617
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: of the consensus number one or number two guy, and

618
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: let's say he's number one on our board. Is the

619
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: difference between him and the number like four guy, which

620
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: you might get at twenty four as big as the

621
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: difference between your number one tackle and your number four tackle.

622
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: Those are the conversations right.

623
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 6: Right, those are the conversations. And because I'm so of

624
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 6: the mindset that it all starts upfront, I would forego

625
00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 6: that four six wide receiver and get that tackle guard,

626
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 6: more so the tackle than the guard, and so you

627
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 6: can steal it to a degree high to guard in

628
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 6: the offensive scheme of things, to a degree but not

629
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 6: really because heck, we got interior linement and a Daner

630
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 6: more productive than outside Russia's throw. That being said, but no,

631
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 6: So I'm of the mindset that if you have protection,

632
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 6: because the way the rules are set up, that you

633
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 6: could be that you may not be in Jigba, but

634
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 6: you can certainly put a thousand to twelve hundred yards

635
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 6: out there. And if we just get that in production

636
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 6: and Jerry Judy comes back to what he was the

637
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 6: previous season, we're golden.

638
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, then you're cooking with gas. So where do

639
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: you sit on This is something we'll talk about a

640
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: lot next week, And I think one of the most

641
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: interesting things about this combine is going to be kind

642
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: of the group think that is done on Caleb Downs.

643
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: I heard Dane Bugler say this, and I know you

644
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: guys we have him on all the time. You know,

645
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: and you know Dan Well kind of saying that, look,

646
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs is probably the surest thing in this draft,

647
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: but he plays a position that is not a premium position,

648
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: and that it's safety. But my hunches if you went

649
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: back to Kyle Hamilton the year that Baltimore got him

650
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 2: at fourteen. Overall, my guess is there are several third

651
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: of the thirteen teams that passed, there's several that probably

652
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: said I wish we would have rethought that because he's

653
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: he's a stud and he was there, Like, how do

654
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: you balance those type of conversations?

655
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing, especial in his situation. How many

656
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 6: teams are now pretty much having a four to two

657
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 6: five nickel situation that they're putting out there, right, And

658
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 6: if you have a guy that has linebacker tackling skills

659
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 6: and cornerback covered skills and can blitz like a backer

660
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 6: or in, how do you ignore that? And I know

661
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 6: the other armament is, well, who's gonna play in deep

662
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 6: middle of the field because Granton Devil can do the

663
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 6: same similar things as well. And I get that argument,

664
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 6: but I'm of the mindset if you tell me we

665
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 6: cout a a Kyle Hamilton type who have that type

666
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 6: of production or Pla Malu type who'll give you that

667
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 6: type of production on that defense who's scoring on it?

668
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean this is this is why they're

669
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: paid the big money, because they're gonna have to make

670
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: these type of decisions going to start at number six.

671
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: You and I have not talked since the Todd Monkin

672
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: hiring new coordinators officially official today, some elevations with our

673
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: current defensive staff and so forth. What did you make

674
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: of the h What did you make of the staff

675
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: that Todd put together over the last couple of weeks.

676
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 6: Well, what I've made of the higher is once again

677
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 6: you've seen a situation where different personality interest into the building.

678
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 6: And Todd, to me from my outside looking in, here

679
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 6: to be someone who's more how do I say this?

680
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 6: He just seems to have a more edge to him.

681
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 6: Kev's edge is different. It comes off as intellectual and

682
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 6: all that, but Munch it seems to be a guy

683
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 6: who's gonna get in your face and tell you like

684
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 6: it is and be very spoken with you and just

685
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 6: have candor. And yeah, and that's what we were missing

686
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 6: because how many times did you hear guys talking about accountability, accountability, accountability,

687
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 6: and he strikes me as a type of guy that's

688
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 6: gonna hold people publicly and privately accountable. Not to say

689
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 6: Kevin wasn't doing it privately, and certainly we weren't doing

690
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 6: it publicly, and sometimes, unfortunately, if football teams need that

691
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 6: a guy, a coach will be like, hey man, I'm

692
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 6: not getting your attention when we have these meetings in

693
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 6: our office or in the team meeting context, or on

694
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 6: the practice field. Here's what's going on, and you need

695
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 6: to do better because you have way too many guys

696
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 6: on that roster talk about what accountability being issued. This's

697
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 6: what players saying this. The other part to me is, okay,

698
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 6: if you guys are saying that, you also have some

699
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 6: culpability in it as well, because it just can't be

700
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 6: Monking saying that. But he does definitely come across as

701
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 6: a different personality type than Kevin, more rough around the edges,

702
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 6: would be my better way of putting it.

703
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I've been telling folks because obviously I

704
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: got to know him pretty well in twenty nineteen, and

705
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: just tell people that ask like, ask him a direct question,

706
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a direct answer. Right, there's no ambiguity,

707
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: there's no sugarcoating. No here it is no you'll know,

708
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 2: you'll know where you stand. Yeah, what is your Okay,

709
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: non participant, I'll get you out of here on this one.

710
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: What is your What do you love about that you've

711
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: been obviously since as a media correspondent, all that stuff.

712
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: What is your favorite thing about the combine? What is

713
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: something that now that you're on this side of it,

714
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: that you appreciate about it?

715
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 6: Well? I still enjoy watching guys in the bench press,

716
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 6: and if you're offensive lineman or a defensive lineman and

717
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 6: you're only putting two twenty five up five or six times,

718
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 6: I'm crossing you off my damn list.

719
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: That's it.

720
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry.

721
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 6: If if I got DB's that can put more weight

722
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 6: up than you do, I don't. And some guys amazingly

723
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 6: have done that and become all pros. So it's not

724
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 6: a perfect science that such imagination. But I just have

725
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 6: a thought of Okay, if you can only do that

726
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 6: six times, and Miles Jared gets one of that, he's

727
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 6: gonna kill you.

728
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he is. You're right, all right, buddy, great stuff.

729
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: Greatly appreciate you my friend, and we will we will

730
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: do this again soon. Thanks for your time.

731
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 6: Great, talk to you both. Talk to you later, my man.

732
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: All right, there he goes the great Ghirod Cherry joining

733
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: us on the Twisted Tea Hard Iced Tea Hotline. We

734
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: will go around the league among other things. Coming up

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Speaker 2: As we go around the league. It's funny. I did

744
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: have a conversation with Buddy Mine with Chicago Roots, and

745
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: one of the things that I was asking him about

746
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: the Indiana stadium situation that came to light yesterday and

747
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: then there were comments from the Illinois governor who was like, well,

748
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: what the Bears are telling me behind the scenes is

749
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: very different and what's being said publicly. He really believed

750
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: the Chicago native and he really believed that they would

751
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: be end up in Arlington Heights, that this Indiana play

752
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: is a leverage play to get them to Arlington Heights,

753
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: which he wasn't a fan of either. He'd wanted to

754
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: be down down like it was with Soldier Field all

755
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: those years. But that was kind of his thought on it,

756
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: that it'll end up in Arlington Heights, which is what

757
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: the mccaskeys in the Hollase that family all wants.

758
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they own the land already, don't they.

759
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they bought the it's the old Arlington Heights racetrack land.

760
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like why would you not just build there?

761
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well they want the public money. You know, they're

762
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 2: trying to get public money from the state of Illinois,

763
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: money that the state of Indiana is pledging. So that's

764
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: where it comes from. And I do think it begs

765
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: the question like will we ever see a fully publicly

766
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: funded stadium in this country again? And my hunches we won't.

767
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Speaker 3: I can't imagine. Yeah, you know, I mean that there's

768
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: we've had, We've had an uphill battle. Yeah, it's yeah,

769
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't.

770
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 7: I don't.

771
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: I don't see that probably happening.

772
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

773
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the bear thing's really fascinating though, I mean

774
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: it is to me. I'm fine with Arlington. Chicago's so big,

775
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: it's not a big deal. But when you're talking move

776
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: into another state, and I know it's just across the

777
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: state line, sure, but that's a whole different kind of ballgame.

778
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: It is. And it's also I think, you know, unfortunately

779
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: for them, and we did have the right read on this.

780
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 2: It is you know, not only is it twenty miles

781
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: from downtown, but it's twenty miles in the wrong direction

782
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: from where they want to be. Yeah, an extra twenty

783
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: so all most of your constituency that you you know,

784
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: most of the money is coming northern suburbs, like from there,

785
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: who's driving an hour? I mean, it's just not something

786
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: that's very likely to me.

787
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: You know, your facility is on the north side.

788
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, right. It just makes you wonder, like our ticketing

789
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: people would have this information, But I just wonder, like,

790
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 2: of our season ticket base, how much of it comes

791
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: from more than an hour away?

792
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like what is that?

793
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's probably more than people think. Yeah,

794
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's nearly as much as would

795
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: be a necessity for something like this to work in Chicago.

796
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I just to me, if the majority of

797
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: their money is in the No, are you gonna get

798
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: up on a Sunday morning at seven am to make well, gosh,

799
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: five am if you want a tailgate to get down

800
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: there and beat all the traffic and all the issues

801
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: that you have to deal with in Chicago to get

802
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: from one side of the city to the next. There's

803
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: no easy way to get through that city.

804
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: Well, here's the other thing. By the way, first period

805
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: officially in the books, US up to nothing on Slovakia.

806
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna get your game on. Yeah, you're gonna get

807
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: USA Canada at eight am.

808
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, barring some epic collapse. Yeah it's happened, but not likely.

809
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 3: Here's the other problem, Like, at least if you go

810
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: to Arlington, there's trains that go that direction. True, I

811
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 3: don't think there's a train going into Indiana. No don't.

812
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: I don't think so, no, no, no, so then what then?

813
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: I mean, how are you going to get all those

814
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 3: people down there?

815
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Now they did this like in Kansas City,

816
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: they're doing this right, because their stadium is going to

817
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: be Kansas yep, so that that's similar. I don't know

818
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: Kansas City geography like I do Chicago, so I have

819
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: no idea like where is their fan base coming from?

820
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: And how is where the citium is currently different from

821
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: where it's going to be in terms of the distance

822
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: from the majority of their fan base. I don't know it.

823
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: I'll I'll be there in two and a half weeks,

824
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: three weeks, and I can tell you then, But right now,

825
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: no idea. I've only been through Kansas City. I've don't

826
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: really spent any time there.

827
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: So the thing is there's nothing else but Chiefs football. Yeah,

828
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: in that area, you're like, you're not competing with other

829
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: other teams other No, like there's there's the Kansas City Chiefs.

830
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a much smaller town, my hunches. It's

831
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: much easier to navigate than Chicago is.

832
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it's far because I'm pretty sure the

833
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: airport you're flying into Kansas City, Yeah, that airport sucks.

834
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: I can I can tell you that. I know that

835
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: they were working on some renovations, but it's that's pretty brutal.

836
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about an hour from the Kansas City Airport

837
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: to Lawrence. That's the closest airport to Lawrence.

838
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: I feel like the Kansas Speedway, I feel like is

839
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: in Kansas It is not in Missouri.

840
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: I believe that is correct. And is that where they're going?

841
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: Is there?

842
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: No, but that's so that So from Arrowhead to the

843
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: Kansas Speedway is thirty minutes. No, so you're not. So

844
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: you're not.

845
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: It's not a killer, and it's not.

846
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 3: I think people like the thing in Kansas City is too.

847
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 3: It's Arrowhead and Kaufman Stadium in the middle of nowhere.

848
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: Right, it's they're right on the freeway.

849
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing else. No, I think they finally put

850
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: in like a bar or restaurant or a gas state. Yeah.

851
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: So I think the gas station, which is like two

852
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: miles from the stadium, is where you have to go

853
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 3: to like get ubers back in the house. Yeah, it's

854
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: in the middle of nowhere. So where you're going probably

855
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: isn't a whole lot different.

856
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: No, you know, I've been to Arrowhead, but never for

857
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: a Chiefs game. I have seen a football game played

858
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: at Arrowhead, but not the Chiefs who it was Florida

859
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: State played Iowa State. In Kansas City. Seneca Wallace was

860
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: your starting quarterback. Former Brown Seneca Wallace was your starting

861
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Iowa State Cyclones against Chris Rix was

862
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 2: the quarterback at Florida State and Kwon Bolden was at FSU.

863
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: At that point, they were coming off of the run

864
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: where they won it ninety nine played for in two thousand,

865
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: but they either opened a season or this must be

866
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: like one or two, and they played one of the

867
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: first games of the season against Iowa State at Arrowhead.

868
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: I had to be a nice bomby one hundred and

869
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 3: five on that field at that time.

870
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: I think I was for me because I was in

871
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: the Deep South at that point. It felt cool, so

872
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: I don't remember it being crazy because I had just

873
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 2: done a full summer in North Florida and it was like, okay,

874
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: this is there's a different type of heat down here

875
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: than what I'm used to, So I don't recall the

876
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: heat being a big problem. But that was the only

877
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: time I've been I've been there for any amount of

878
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: time other than driving through it.

879
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: That just again going back to Chicago, just put it

880
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: in Arlington, like be smart about this. But I know

881
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: they're going to play both sides for money and yeah,

882
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 3: I know who's running the operation for the Bears of course.

883
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think this could be something that comes

884
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: up with the Bengals in the next decade. I mean,

885
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: I know they did the extension at Paul Brown with

886
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: like that place needs massive influx of money as yeah. Yeah,

887
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: and not as nice.

888
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: No. And I don't think they've even had renovations. I

889
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: mean there was there were.

890
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: They painted it at one point, they put like jungle

891
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: stickers up, like because it was just concrete.

892
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: No, that's right, they had they had a construction project

893
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: going on when we were there. Yeah, we were the

894
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: last game of the year, and Ceciliano said something. He's like, oh,

895
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: you guys are already getting started on the off season work.

896
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh they started that in June. Oh really, okay, great,

897
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: So you went the whole season with part of your

898
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: club section, the one club section under construction. Oh, like

899
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: what are you doing?

900
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

901
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? But is there money and is there money in

902
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 3: Northern Kentucky.

903
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of it. I mean that's that

904
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: that's you know, there is some there for sure, though

905
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: some of those I mean that's where Collinsworth lives. He

906
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: lives on the other side.

907
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 3: Up there.

908
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah.

909
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: My buddy when he lived there was like, I will

910
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: live in northern Kentucky. I will not live in Cincinnati.

911
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: The date on that Florida State Iowa State game was

912
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: August twenty fourth, two thousand and two. Was that game

913
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: Florida State one thirty eight to thirty one in that game.

914
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: A couple other things around the NFL, The Rams have

915
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: promoted pass game coordinator in Night Shielhouse to offensive coordinator

916
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: and quarterback coach, and the Pride of Saint Ignatius Dave

917
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: were going to co offensive coordinator and quarterback coach. Congratulations

918
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: to him. Shiel House, obviously interviewed here, was considered to

919
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: be one of the ones that certainly was in contention,

920
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: and instead he will elevate with the Rams to offensive coordinator.

921
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: That now makes twenty one NFL teams that will have

922
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: new offensive coordinators for the upcoming season. I cannot ever

923
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: recall that number being so high.

924
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 3: Ever, when I saw that, I had a double check

925
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: and make sure that Adam Schefter was actually Adam Schefter,

926
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: because I'm like, wait, I know there were ten coaches,

927
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: eleven coaches somewhere in there. That number of offensive coordinators

928
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: is insane. Yes it is.

929
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know that we've ever We've never

930
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: seen one.

931
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that.

932
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: No, I have it either. All right, second hour of

933
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: the program coming up. We got a little mail bag

934
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: for you coming up. In the second hour of the program.

935
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: Also hear from some of the national pundits on this

936
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: year's draft, some of the strengths and weaknesses. And Daniel

937
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 2: jim Ri's pre combine call with the media was yesterday.

938
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: We'll have that for you to get your prepped. Second

939
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941
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952
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 2: the combine talent that is out there. So we're gonna

953
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: give you a little tour around that some of the

954
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: national media what they're saying about us prior to the

955
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: Combineles next week over in Indianapolis. Let's start with the

956
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,880
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957
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: on the Browns biggest needs heading into the offseason.

958
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 8: The Cleveland Browns are the team that we're starting off

959
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 8: with here in the AFC North, and you correctly have

960
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 8: offensive line is the very first need. I've been talking

961
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 8: about it for months with Cleveland. I want to say months.

962
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 8: I make years, going back to last year as well,

963
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 8: when I was like, how are we not investing a

964
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 8: little bit more into the offensive line? Thirty second in

965
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 8: the NFL this past season in past blocking grade four,

966
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 8: Cleveland a far cry from when they were one of

967
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 8: the better off offensive lines in the NFL, and now

968
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 8: they have so many of their starting offensive linemen that

969
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 8: have the ability to hit free agencies, so we will

970
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 8: see what happens their wide receiver as well, and then quarterback.

971
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 8: What are you doing at quarterback? Thirty second overall, dead

972
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 8: last in the NFL in total passing grade.

973
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: What do you think about Cleveland's.

974
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 8: Situation and how they're going to prioritize some of their

975
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 8: team needs there.

976
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 9: I mean, just any and all offensive talent. And the

977
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 9: tough part is with the Deshaun Watson contracts still in

978
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 9: the books, they don't have a ton of cap space

979
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 9: to work with when it comes to adding veterans, so

980
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 9: they're going to be looking for value in the free

981
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 9: agent market, but they need to draft multiple players on

982
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 9: the offensive line and at wide receiver. I mean, you

983
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 9: just talk about there's a reason this was the worst

984
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 9: offense in football. There's several reasons for it, actually not

985
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 9: just one. But they will not be able to function

986
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 9: until they have a functional offensive line. They're going to

987
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 9: have to figure out that situation that creates obviously the

988
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 9: domino effect where life is easier on your quarterbacks and

989
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 9: easier on your wide receivers. So I know, you know,

990
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 9: oftentimes the Browns quarterback situation is in the spotlight. But

991
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 9: right now, I don't think there's a quarterback in the

992
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 9: league that could go in there with that supporting cast

993
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 9: and do pretty much.

994
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 3: Anything they need.

995
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 9: It wouldn't shock me at all if they doubled up

996
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 9: on the offensive line in the first round or if

997
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 9: they went o line wide receiver with those two picks.

998
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 9: Either way, they need to find a way to start

999
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 9: that rebuild on both of those positions.

1000
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 8: Toy White Teler already said, you know, announced that he

1001
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 8: is not coming back, and you've just got so many

1002
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 8: potential options for them along the offensive line. Both Betonio

1003
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 8: is a free agent. E the Post's a free agent.

1004
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 8: Jack Conklin's a free agent. You've got Dwan Jones. But

1005
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 8: how much are you really relying on Dewan Jones? Cam

1006
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 8: Robinson's a free agent. It could just look totally different

1007
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 8: in Cleveland. And I agree with you, it's hard to

1008
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 8: think that any quarterback could play well in that situation

1009
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 8: behind that offensive line the way that it played last

1010
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 8: year and the way that it looks currently heading into

1011
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 8: free agency.

1012
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it theoretically. I talked about this

1013
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: with Gerrod. We've talked about a gibe for weeks. It's

1014
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: potentially you could have five new starters up front. I

1015
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: mean that's very much in play that that's what it

1016
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: could look like. It would not shock me at all

1017
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: if two of the first three picks are on the

1018
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: offensive line. I think that makes all the sense in

1019
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: the world. My hope is is that you still get

1020
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: the wide receiver you want, because I think you have

1021
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: to have that weapon. I mean, Zee and I are

1022
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: on the same page on that. But yeah, this is

1023
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: going to be a start from fresh potentially offensive line

1024
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: and fingers crossed on Joel Buttonio that that position isn't

1025
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: one We have to do this set that too as well.

1026
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: But as it stands right now, there is the only thing.

1027
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we have invested like they did draft Zenter,

1028
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 2: they drafted Jones. Whippler is a guy who, when healthy

1029
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: is can certainly handle it and I think would be

1030
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: counted on. But yeah, it's going to be a massive

1031
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: shuffling of the deck chairs in that room over the

1032
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: next you know, could happen starting in free agents. You're

1033
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: gonna have to add a bunch of guys if you

1034
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: can't draft them all. You can't have five rookies in

1035
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: your offensive line.

1036
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if you the whippler, it starts with Whippler,

1037
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: it does like I don't from an injury standpoint, and

1038
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 3: he's been in the building every day and yeah he's

1039
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: been here and undergo treatment and physical therapy and all

1040
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: that fun stuff from his late season injury. But you know,

1041
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: I mean if he's if he's able to come back

1042
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: and be the day one starter, that will help I

1043
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: go ahead, fresh start for zent Er two. Yes, yeah,

1044
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: where he's the guy right away.

1045
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and new new coaching staff, new line, like you know,

1046
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: I mean he was a third round pick. He's got pedigree,

1047
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: you know, like there's that can be a sometimes you

1048
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 2: just see to change of scenery.

1049
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, there's no question. I mean and George Warhap,

1050
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: I mean we know what the hoff thinks of him.

1051
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the best.

1052
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: So if George Warhap's been watching that tape and he

1053
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 3: likes what he sees, then he would be the guy. Now.

1054
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 3: Like Tevin Jenkins, I think he's a free agent, but

1055
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: he's a guy that worth looking into. Maybe you can

1056
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: bring him back on the cheap because he's a swing

1057
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: guard and tackle.

1058
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: Do you have it on the board behind you who

1059
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: is under contract on the offensive line for next year

1060
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: for US sure.

1061
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 6: Uh.

1062
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: Tackles that are under contract include Cornelius Lucas, kat Leviston okay, uh,

1063
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: Dewan Jones, Yep, Jeremiah Buyers on the inside offensive line,

1064
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: Kendrick Green, Zach Ziner, which this is a put up

1065
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: or shut up here, I would think Whippler and then Kingsley.

1066
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: Oh that's right.

1067
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: I thought Kevin wasn't a free agent. I thought he

1068
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: had one more year. But I could be very wrong

1069
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: on that. G Man says, I'm very wrong. Which he

1070
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: put that whole board together. I'm gonna go with him.

1071
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 4: I mean he did it with authority, all right, But

1072
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: like that's I think if Potonio is back and and

1073
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 4: Whippler is healthy, Okay, well now you've got a little something.

1074
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, fresh start with Ziner, Dewan maybe finally. I mean

1075
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 2: it's so, I don't I need to want healthy. I'm

1076
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: with you. I'm with you.

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm with you. Yeah. I mean that's I don't know

1078
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 3: if that isn't a backup role or in a starter role.

1079
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. But I got to

1080
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 3: see him healthy.

1081
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: I love him, but he does.

1082
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: I will say this. I was visiting the great John

1083
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 3: Frayne downstairs the other day. Yeah, and Dwan Jones walked by,

1084
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: and Dwan Jones looks like a shell of himself. Well, okay,

1085
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: we've we've we've slimmed down bigly.

1086
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully that helps staying healthy, you know, hopefully that helps.

1087
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1088
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: I mean that can only help on the weight on

1089
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: those legs.

1090
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 2: Can't hurt. Yeah, yeah, all right, now let's head to

1091
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: CBS Sports. This is Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports. On the

1092
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: direction he thinks the Browns will go at receiver. Yeah,

1093
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: Casey Conceptscio now a Texas A and M.

1094
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 10: He transferred from NC State after the twenty twenty fourth

1095
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 10: season and exploded onto the scene. If you watch ACC football,

1096
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 10: you know who Casey Conceptcion was. But he took it

1097
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 10: to the next level for TEXTA, A and M last year.

1098
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 10: Just like McKay lemon. He can play in the slot,

1099
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 10: he can play outside, he has returnability, He's the electric

1100
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 10: every single time he touches the football. The Browns have

1101
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 10: two first round picks. With their second first round pick

1102
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 10: A picked twenty four, I had them picking Casey Conceptscio

1103
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 10: and perhaps to getting off with them Lineman early on.

1104
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 10: Maybe they consider a quarterback, but it sounds like Todd

1105
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 10: Munkin's going to roll with Shebir Sanders. And if that's

1106
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 10: the case, you have to get some help in the

1107
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 10: wide receiver room. Jerry Judy is currently the only show

1108
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 10: in town. I think he's more of a wide receiver

1109
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 10: two than the wide receiver one. He and Casey concepts

1110
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 10: Young can share those duties. They also have tied end needs.

1111
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 10: Although Harrol Finnon the third balled out as a rookie,

1112
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 10: but David and Joku is also going to be a

1113
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 10: free agency. Maybe you consider Kenyon Sadik here Browns fans

1114
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 10: don't like that, so let's stick with Casey Conceptsion, who

1115
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 10: is going to be one of potentially five maybe six

1116
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 10: Keana wide receivers go in the first round by the

1117
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 10: time it's all said and done.

1118
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: I like Ryan I remember having him on last year.

1119
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: He's a fun talk.

1120
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: Right, we've already chatted. He will join us next week.

1121
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: Nice.

1122
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: So it's interesting that he has Conceptsio because the Athletic

1123
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: just did their mock with all their team reporters and

1124
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: Conceptsion went at twenty four.

1125
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: So Zach had him going twenty four as well. So

1126
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: I yeah, this is one of those things that I

1127
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: think is going to be fascinating. It just really depends

1128
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: on at six. If you go tackle six, then it

1129
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: feels like you go receiver at twenty four, and then

1130
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: obviously it would be inverted if you go receiver at six,

1131
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: and then it'll be tackle at twenty four. So again,

1132
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: that's just going to come down to guys, where's the

1133
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: biggest drop off. Is the bigger drop off going from

1134
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: let's just say, for the sake of this conversation, carlil

1135
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: Tait to conceptsion, Or is the bigger drop off going

1136
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: from let's just say, for the sake of this conversation,

1137
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: Spencer Fano to Caden Proctor at tackle, Like which one

1138
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: is the bigger difference? That to me will determine what

1139
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: happens at six. If they get to a point where

1140
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: they're like, man, we have to have Carnel Tate. If

1141
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: he's there, he's a number one die in the world receiver,

1142
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: then I think that's what happens at six. But those

1143
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: are the things that you're going to have to be

1144
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: loyal to your board with a little bit. By the

1145
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: time you get to the actual draft, so they'll do

1146
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 2: the research on that this week.

1147
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll start seeing where the drop off is here

1148
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: in Indy. Yeah. Well no, you'll start to know who's elevating,

1149
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: who's in that upper tier. Yep.

1150
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: All right, this is Joel Klatt on The Joel Klatt

1151
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: Show on what direction he thinks the Browns will go

1152
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: at six and twenty four.

1153
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 11: The Browns offense needs some talent. They're the second worst

1154
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 11: scoring offense in the league. They struggled to throw it,

1155
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 11: they struggled.

1156
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: To run it.

1157
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 11: They're bottom five and both yards per pass en yards

1158
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 11: per carry. So you can probably get better with a

1159
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 11: good offensive lineman. I think that there's going to be

1160
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 11: several offensive lineman potentially even taken in the top ten,

1161
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 11: but certainly in the top fifteen and twenty, and Spencer

1162
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 11: Fano from Utah fits that bill. Now, I've got Maui

1163
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 11: Noah as my top offensive lineman, but Spencer Fano is

1164
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 11: a heck of a player. He might be the top

1165
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 11: offensive lineman in the draft. He played both right tackle

1166
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 11: and left tackle in his career, so the Browns could

1167
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 11: slot him on either side. They could have an initial

1168
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 11: need at right tackle if Jack Conklin leaves in free agency,

1169
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 11: so that could be a fit for them. And again

1170
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 11: just getting better in front of potentially Shoudoor Sanders. You

1171
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 11: give him some protection and maybe he can flourish a

1172
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 11: little bit and take the next step in his career.

1173
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 11: Like I said, offensive help all over the board. You

1174
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 11: can do that with solid offensive line and Spencer Fano

1175
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 11: as my pick there at six to the Browns at

1176
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 11: twenty four. Here's the Browns. The Browns needs some more

1177
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 11: firepower on offense. I already had them grabbing Spencer Fano

1178
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 11: at tackle early in this first round. And then there's

1179
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 11: this really great reunion of sorts that could potentially happen. Okay,

1180
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 11: I'm going to give them Jordan Tyson, the wide receiver

1181
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 11: from Arizona State. But here's what's so fascinating. You got

1182
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 11: Shoodoor Sanders there in Cleveland. Jordan Tyson started his career

1183
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 11: at Colorado. Now, he had a pretty decent freshman year

1184
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 11: and then Deon Sanders gets the job and it just

1185
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 11: wasn't a fit, and so he ended up transferring to

1186
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 11: Arizona State. He had some injuries that first year, and

1187
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 11: then he became just an incredible player at Arizona State.

1188
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 11: He went to Dion this last fall after their matchup

1189
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 11: with Colorado to apologize about the way things went. He said, Hey, like,

1190
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 11: I wasn't ready, I wasn't mature enough when you came

1191
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 11: in and it didn't work out. But hey, I just

1192
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 11: wanted to apologize for the way everything went.

1193
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: This guy.

1194
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 11: This shows maturity all of that. Now he can reunite

1195
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 11: with the Sanders family. Maybe you bury the hatchet, you

1196
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 11: give shudeor a really good target on the outside. I

1197
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 11: think that would be a cool story. So for me,

1198
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 11: if for nothing else than an amazing story, Jordan Tyson

1199
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 11: to the Browns there at twenty four. I really like

1200
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 11: that one right there.

1201
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: I have not seen a single mock that has Tyson

1202
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 2: dropping that far.

1203
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: No, not at all. No, I can't imagine he's he's

1204
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: gone by pick twenty.

1205
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would think.

1206
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 9: So.

1207
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have a run. I think if

1208
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 2: you want one of that level receiver, it's gonna have

1209
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: to be at six, and then it's a different conversation.

1210
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: At twenty four. Then you're talking well, I mean it

1211
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: could be the.

1212
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: fIF sixth receiver off the board, the wide receiver from Washington.

1213
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: We have seen him go at twenty four, but I

1214
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: feel like he's better than what people are making him

1215
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 3: out to be.

1216
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 2: He's a stud, I mean, and he's a big target. Yeah,

1217
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean. This is why next week will be interesting,

1218
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: just to see what the drop off is for some

1219
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 2: of these people with how they view receiver versus tackle,

1220
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: because that's where we're going to spend most of our time.

1221
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 2: I think over there. Finally, and this show's really good

1222
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: ESPN Draft Daily. This is Field Yates, melkiper Junior, and

1223
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick on how the brown should approach the first round.

1224
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 12: Let's talk to Cleveland Browns, who have the sixth and twenty.

1225
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: Fourth pick in the upcoming first round.

1226
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 12: That twenty fourth pick coming in the Travis Hunter trade

1227
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 12: up last year with Jacksonville. Cleveland, as things presently stand,

1228
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 12: thirty six million dollars over the cap. Many free agents,

1229
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 12: specifically along the offensive line, don't worry about the cap.

1230
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 3: They always figure out a way.

1231
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 12: In Cleveland and man, let's talk about this Browns roster.

1232
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 12: How would you approach this upcoming first eve.

1233
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 5: It's all offense, really, it's thinking about the offensive line.

1234
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 5: Multiple picks up front, maybe three offensive line brought into

1235
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 5: the folding wide receivers somebody can catch the football like

1236
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 5: Carnell Tate. Ohisid hope he's there. If he's not there,

1237
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 5: he got to think about Jordan Tyson Arizona State or

1238
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 5: mackay Lemon USC But then you're also going to be

1239
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 5: looking at Spencer Fondo, offensive tackle Utah, Francis mally No

1240
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 5: offensive tackle Miami, and the fast rising Fielding Yates favorite

1241
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 5: player Monroe Freeling from Georgia. So when you think about

1242
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 5: offensive tackle and wide receiver, he got to get one

1243
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 5: at six and one at twenty four. They want to

1244
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 5: take the receiver at sixth if the tackle with twenty

1245
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 5: four or vice versa. But those are two positions that

1246
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 5: need help the most. Like I said, it's not just

1247
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 5: going to be one offensive lineman, probably going to be three,

1248
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 5: maybe four fraudend during this draft.

1249
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'll tell you, the more you watch Feeling, the

1250
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 13: more you really like him a lot. And I can

1251
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 13: see why field is so high on him because he

1252
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 13: is just a smooth mover at left tackle and he's

1253
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 13: a natural left tackle. And so look, look I look,

1254
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 13: I like cc Manoa as well. I mean, I really

1255
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 13: do he's a right tackle. I haven't seen him on

1256
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,479
Speaker 13: the left side, but you know, left tackle, right tackle.

1257
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 13: It's all the same for me, quite honestly when you

1258
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 13: get to the league, because they just move rushers around

1259
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 13: so much anyway, and just kind of pick your weak

1260
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 13: link on no offensive line and try to exploit him.

1261
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think what you what we have here

1262
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: is a consensus of thought on what we will do

1263
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: at six and twenty four. Will that change a week

1264
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: from today when we're doing a show. How has that changed?

1265
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1266
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: If at all?

1267
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: No. I I I think the other big takeaway and

1268
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: I heard Sikima talk about it. I heard Ryan Wilson,

1269
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: I heard Joel Klatt talk about it at the end

1270
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: of the day, like the offense could be a lot

1271
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: better than we think, or maybe they're they're better shape,

1272
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 3: maybe they're not as bad as they were last year

1273
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: with a good offensive line, a healthy offensive line.

1274
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you've got I mean I did this

1275
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: with your rodd. We do it all the time. We

1276
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: talked about those boxes that Seattle checked. You've got a

1277
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: dynamic run game, you've got a big weapon in Fannin.

1278
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to figure out quarterback how you're going

1279
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: to approach that with Shitor and de Sean and what

1280
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: that looks like. And then you need a weapon, and

1281
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 2: you need to stabilize the offensive line, but you don't

1282
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: need to have the best offensive line in football. You

1283
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: just need a unit that rose in the same direction.

1284
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: And if the balls out quick and you can run

1285
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: the ball, then you can cover a lot of those

1286
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: things up. So you know, this is this is what

1287
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: will make next week fun is we'll get a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a consensus on how people feel about, you know,

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Speaker 2: these two position groups, especially because it feels like you

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Speaker 2: got three picks early. It's going to be two linemen

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Speaker 2: and a weapon, is what it seems like. Certainly Now

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: last year we wouldn't have thought it was going todtackle

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01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: off ball linebacker and they did. So who knows, that's right,

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Speaker 2: may end up with Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Love. Who

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Speaker 2: the heck knows. Wow, this could all shake out. We'll

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Speaker 2: mini mail bag here on a Friday, Gibbet. Yes, Sir, h.

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Speaker 3: David Lourie Arizona is on the phone. What pick are

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01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 3: you giving up for Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question.

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01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: I might entertain twenty four probably it's.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I don't think it'll take six or

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: twenty four the way that it's gone for him for

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01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: whatever reason, the first two years.

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Speaker 3: But he's still on a rookie deal, he is.

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01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like I always hesitate to be too bullish

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: on this from the Buckeye perspective, just because I view

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01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: a lot of those guys through scarlet and gray colored glasses.

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: But it defies logic as bad as it's gone the

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: first true years for him. There like he felt like

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: about as sure at as any of those receivers that

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: have come out of there, and they've had a bunch

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01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: of them. So I don't know, and I'm not watching

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01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: off Cardinals games to see, like, is it a quarterback issue?

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01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: Is it him?

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01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 3: Like what's the Is that a coaching thing? Because that

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01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 3: exactly a little bit of a mess.

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know this. If you were

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: to say, when we were at the combine and he

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: was a prospect that in two years, if you give

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01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: up twenty four you could have him, we would all

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01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: have said yes. All of us would have said yes, so,

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: and the same would be true of obviously the second

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Speaker 2: round pick. But that's a great that's a very that's

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Speaker 2: a great question because I my what like my hunch

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01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: is right now, I would give up twenty four just

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Speaker 2: because I think that he's still being.

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Speaker 3: I think we should ask that next week to some

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Speaker 3: of these guys.

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01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question. Like I just wanted to

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: pull it up because I know it didn't.

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Speaker 3: How many years is that? Conwell, funny man, since you

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01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: were mocking me, how many years?

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Speaker 5: What?

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01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 2: So he's two years into the league. Last year he

1344
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: played last year it was twelve games, forty one for

1345
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: six oh eight fifteen yards a reception. So that's pretty good.

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01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: Four touchdowns. The year before as a rookie, played all

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: seventeen caught sixty two for eight eighty five and eight touchdowns.

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01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: From a game standpoint, like really getting after it. Last

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: year he did not have a single game with one

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01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: hundred yards receiving. He only had three games with ten

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01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: targets or more. He had a game where he caught

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01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: six on ten passes against Seattle for sixty six yards.

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 2: I had seven on ten targets for ninety six yards

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Speaker 2: in a touchdown. And the second time they played Seattle,

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01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,520
Speaker 2: he had twelve targets, he only got three of them

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: for thirty three yards in a touchdown. So just a

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Speaker 2: very strange season for him last year in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: So maybe it's not a first. But again the fact

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01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: he's on a rookie deal, that's why I'm like, Yeah,

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01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 3: the asking price a late first or is it the

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 3: second round play?

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Speaker 2: I would think it would be twenty four is what

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: they would ask.

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 3: Maybe you could get that second rounder.

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01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question.

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, let's see Dino tweets at us. My question

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01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 3: is do we like lemon at six seems like a

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01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 3: lot of a weapon to me imagine him, Fan and

1369
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 3: Judkins as very difficult players to bring down and tackle.

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Speaker 2: So the real truth on this is the only one

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Speaker 2: of these guys from a receiver position that I've watched

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: a ton of is Carnel Taate. Yeah, so we'll do

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: that homework next week. We'll watch tape on the receivers

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01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: in the weeks that follow in late February early March,

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01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 2: and then you'll have a little bit better feel on it.

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01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 2: Carnel Tait, I've seen the most of what I know

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: about him is great frame, great routes, you throw it

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01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: to me, catches it. He's not a big drop guy.

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01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 2: So that's what I know about him. I'm not I

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01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 2: can't go there with Lemon yet because I just haven't

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01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 2: seen enough of him to know that if he's on

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01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: that level.

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 3: Charles Davis had his first mock of the year out

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01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: today and he'll join us next week in Indy. Yeah,

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01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: he does have us taking Lemon at number six. Yeah,

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01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 3: it's and he has him as the first wide receiver

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Speaker 3: off the board.

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01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: I saw a wide receiver breakdown and maybe you guys

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 2: saw it too, that had like all of the guys,

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01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 2: like top five receivers he was on social this morning.

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: Carnel Tate was either number one or number two on

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01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: all of them, but other than that, it was a

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01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 2: wide array. Like some people had Lemon one, some people

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01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 2: had him four, but Tate was always one or two.

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Speaker 3: Most consistent. Yeah, we'll see. I'm sure someone will ask

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 3: did you talk to the Browns or will you talk?

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01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 3: Prospect gets the will you talk to the Browns?

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01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 3: So, uh, let's see what else do I got here?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 3: Dog pound Cleveland Brown. If you were good enough to

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01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 3: compete in any winter Olympic sport, what would you like

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01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: to compete in?

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: Downhill? I mean, that's gotta be as much fun as

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01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: you can have if you can keep it on edge.

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: I want to ski jump, I want to go airborne.

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01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 3: Let's see how that goes. It doesn't end well for me,

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

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01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: But you certainly that's as close you're gonna get to flying.

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01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 3: Yep, probably that God who knows.

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01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: I can't believe those speed skater guys go thirty six

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Speaker 2: miles an hour.

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 3: So we were watching one this morning, and like they

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01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: started off because it's like a twelve lap or thirteen

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: lap race, and the first like three or four laps.

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: They are only only going seventeen miles an hour. It

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01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 3: hits the three lap mark, yeah, and they are up

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01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 3: to twenty eight miles an hour like this, and you're

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: like someone got like sliced up. They had to stop

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Speaker 3: the race.

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: Like, oh, was this the one where they're like all

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01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: on there he gets like roller derby and they like

1423
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: kind of push and shove.

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01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 3: Oh it definitely. There was a lot of jostling.

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01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the that's when it really gets pretty loose,

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01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: is that one?

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get another goal three nothing. There you go,

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 3: routes on. We'll see a Sunday. Uh, Bobby time. What

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: is the most useless drill at the combine? I don't

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01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: know if I.

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01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 6: Mean.

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01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 3: G Man says three cone.

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for receiver. I always think it's three cone.

1434
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: But just because of the DK metcalf, that was so stupid.

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01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 3: I hate the forty yard dish simply because if you're

1436
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 3: gonna run the forty, I want you in full pads.

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01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: Show me that you can run a forty in full

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 3: pads at four to three and then I'm good.

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01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's that's the three cones, the

1440
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: one that jumps out to me, just to the absurdity

1441
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: of that.

1442
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: Uh, Bobby, if you were GM for one week at

1443
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 3: the combine, what's the one thing you'd prioritize evaluating above

1444
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: everything else.

1445
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: Probably personality, because you've already done the Hayes in the

1446
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: barn on the tape. At this point, you've watched all

1447
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: the tape. Like our scouts have opinions formalized, finalized on

1448
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: players in the tape. There's no more tape to watch.

1449
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: They've already watched all the tape. So if I was

1450
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 2: a GM, I would want to know, does this person

1451
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: love football? Is this someone that I want to bring

1452
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: into my locker room? Is this someone who can make

1453
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: us better? When you have two first round picks, they

1454
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: need to be cornerstone players for the future of your team,

1455
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: and you need to make sure that they will roll

1456
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: in the same direction with your your other team leaders.

1457
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: So I think it's all personality. If you're a b

1458
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: next week, you're looking personality.

1459
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 3: You know Todd Monkin, you know forever been a coordinator

1460
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 3: in these meetings, and now he's the head coach in

1461
01:14:54,080 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 3: these meetings. Sure that dynamic is fascinating to me. Yeah,

1462
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 3: to what extent do by the way, we just scored again.

1463
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 3: It's Fournam.

1464
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: There you go. I thought this one to.

1465
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 3: Be a route. Yep. To what extent do medical evaluations

1466
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: that the combine impact the players draft grade compared to

1467
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 3: on field performance. We have definitely seen some people that

1468
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: run into some problems here at the combine. Potentially how

1469
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,520
Speaker 3: people get hurt at the combine?

1470
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know sometimes things that guys are playing

1471
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 2: with conditions that you didn't even know exist, they didn't

1472
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: know exists. So yeah, can be massive. I think at

1473
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: this point outside of the mid and late round, guys

1474
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 2: like running really fast. It's hard to have that much

1475
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 2: movement in terms of what you do physically at the combine.

1476
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: It's all the personality tests and the medicals.

1477
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 3: Bobby, I've got one more. Bobby has crushed the football questions.

1478
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: Normally you know everything but football, but.

1479
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, big boy football, Bobby.

1480
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. In an era of advanced tracking data, is the

1481
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 3: combine becoming more of a verification tool other than a

1482
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 3: discovery tool?

1483
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 2: H I like the way you phrased it. I don't

1484
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: know if it's a verification versus discovery. I think this

1485
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 2: is what I think the combine is. This is how

1486
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 2: I would sum it up. Let's say that you always

1487
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: wanted a specific type of vehicle, Okay, and let's say

1488
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 2: that you wanted a convertible, and you there were six

1489
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 2: convertibles that you were kind of eyeing over months, and

1490
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 2: you're doing your research and hold value in all these

1491
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: various things that you're checking. Well, look, what the combine

1492
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 2: is the test drive. That's what the combine is. The

1493
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: combine is do we like you as a human That's

1494
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: what the combine is to me? And then are you healthy?

1495
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 2: That's that's what it is. Because, like I said, all

1496
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: the tapes in like you're not You think how many

1497
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: conversations we with Glenn about this, like you're not changing

1498
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: his opinion on what the tape is. No, they have that.

1499
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 3: We have the same question. We have the same conversation

1500
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 3: with John Dorsey and a few other Jess like, I've

1501
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 3: watched enough tape of you. There's a reason why I

1502
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 3: want to meet you at Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: all over it is Daniel Jeremiah. We will have his

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Speaker 2: some highlights for Daniel Jeremiah's pre Combine conference call with

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Speaker 14: Appreciate you guys hopping on here. I feel like we've

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01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 14: got a good group that does this each and every year,

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Speaker 14: so I do appreciate you guys time. It's a lot

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Speaker 14: of fun for me to get a chance to talk

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Speaker 14: about these kids. It's another exciting class, you know, with

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01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 14: some of the strengths of this draft really being along

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01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 14: the defensive line, particularly the edge rushers, another great group

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01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 14: of wide receivers, the linebacker group that runs deep, in

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01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 14: a corner group that runs really deep. So it's a

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Speaker 14: good draft and I'm excited to get to Indianapolis. It's

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Speaker 14: you know, it's interesting doing some of the homework this

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01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 14: week and looking back on last year's combine and seeing

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Speaker 14: some of the stars from that combine. You have success

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 14: throughout the rookie years and then all the way to

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Speaker 14: the super Bowl. To be honest with Gray's abel with

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Speaker 14: how he handled off season and Nicki Manouri the job

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 14: he did as well. So I do think it's a

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01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 14: useful exercise to get there and watch these guys move

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 14: around a workout and really looking forward to it. So

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Speaker 14: with that, I'm ready to go. Let's get going.

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Speaker 15: Obviously, more and more teams in the NFL want to

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01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 15: do it all. dB, good luck with that. But the Derway, Hamilton,

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Speaker 15: and Worry. I wanted to ask you about three guys

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Speaker 15: downs obviously m A.

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Speaker 16: Warren from Toledo and Dylan Tineman from Oregon. How you

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01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 16: project them is do it all, legit, do it all

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01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 16: dbs at the NFL level, and if there's anyone else

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Speaker 16: in this class you see maybe becoming that guy.

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Speaker 14: Well, I love the question, and it is something I

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 14: think teams are looking for, you know, having guys that

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01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 14: can do what those those three do in terms of

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01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 14: bigger nickels, Guys that can play in that role and

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01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 14: be forced players and cover tight ends and blitz do

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01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 14: a lot of different things with them.

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Speaker 2: But I love all.

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Speaker 3: Three of those safeties.

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Speaker 14: I had all three in my initial top twenty five

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Speaker 14: in this draft, and I think once I update it,

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01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 14: you know, going through this weekend, you know, I don't

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Speaker 14: see any of them going down, only potentially going up.

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Speaker 2: But with Caleb.

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Speaker 14: Downs, everything he does he just kind of does right.

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Speaker 14: He doesn't have the size that those are the three

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Speaker 14: guys you're referencing do, just in terms of the size

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01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 14: and the length. I don't think he's quite as explosive

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01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 14: as those players are. But he can't cover tight ends.

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Speaker 14: He can do that easily. He's an outstanding force player.

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Speaker 14: So you got somebody on the field that can be

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 14: a real reliable, firm tackler, takes great angles. I think

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Speaker 14: he can be a communicator back there as well, just

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Speaker 14: not quite as much playmaking. To me, McNeil Warren is

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Speaker 14: the one that's the most intriguing of all these guys.

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Speaker 14: Who's you know, he's going to be when they when

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 14: they had him measured in the spring, it was six

1576
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Speaker 14: three and three eights two hundred and nine pounds, So

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01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 14: he's a little bit of that bigger, longer, rangier guy

1578
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 14: who's got incredible ball skills. Can play in the middle

1579
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 14: of the field. He's got a real presence and physicality

1580
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 14: over the middle. You know, you can see all the

1581
01:20:58,160 --> 01:20:59,919
Speaker 14: you know, the plays in the ball which are impressive.

1582
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Speaker 14: That picks six against Western Kentucky. That it's pretty dynamic.

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01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 14: He just pulls the trigger and plays really really fast.

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Speaker 14: And when I've watched Derwin doing the charger games, I

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01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 14: kind of he's just bounces around. He's just got a

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Speaker 14: lot of energy to him with how he you know,

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Speaker 14: how he's used and how he plays, and the closer

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Speaker 14: he gets to the line of scrimmage, the more energy

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Speaker 14: he provides. I see some of that with McNeil Warren

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Speaker 14: and then Thieneman from Oregon. You're gonna start seeing the

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Speaker 14: buzz on him start to really really build as we

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Speaker 14: get the end. He's gonna run a heck of a

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Speaker 14: lot faster than people think he's gonna jump out of

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Speaker 14: the gym.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He is super, super explosive.

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Speaker 14: And you go back to Purdue and when he was

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Speaker 14: there as a true freshman playing in the dead middle

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Speaker 14: of the field, making interceptions outside the numbers with that

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Speaker 14: type of range.

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Speaker 2: And now you get to Oregon.

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Speaker 14: He can cover and the slot can be a legit

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 14: nickel and mirror and match smaller.

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Speaker 3: Quicker guys.

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Speaker 14: And the other guy who's you know, trusts his eyes,

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01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 14: flat footed, reads great angles, excellent tackler. I think those

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Speaker 14: three guys are three of the best players in the draft,

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01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 14: not three of the best safeties. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 14: they're going to be in high demand. And then you know,

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Speaker 14: an interesting guy that I'm keeping an eye on as

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Speaker 14: we go through this process is Jacoby Thomas from Miami.

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Speaker 14: He would be kind of in that next wave you

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Speaker 14: get to him, Bud Clark from TCU, AJ Halsey from LSU.

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Speaker 3: There's another good.

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Speaker 14: Group of safeties behind them, but there is a little

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Speaker 14: bit those are the big three. There's a little bit

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Speaker 14: of a gap before you get to the rest of

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Speaker 14: these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for doing this, Daniel.

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Speaker 10: How's the depth in the draft for the teams that

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01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 10: are picking, they don't have a first round pick at

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01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 10: a defensive tackle, cornerback, and wide receiver.

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Speaker 14: I would I would rank that wide receiver corner detackle

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01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 14: in terms of the depth, but if not in bad

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01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 14: shape at defensive tackle, it's just much much deeper at

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01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 14: the other two. Wide receiver's really really good. It's comparable

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01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 14: to the last several years. I think I ended up

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01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 14: counted up the other day. I think I had nineteen

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01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 14: guys with you know grades that would put them in

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Speaker 14: the top three round range.

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Speaker 3: So that's a that's a.

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Speaker 14: Really good group of wide receivers. Corners, you know, we

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01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 14: got a nice mix of outside guys and one of

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01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 14: the really really good groups of slot corners that I've

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 14: seen in the last few years.

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: So good.

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01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 14: Not quite as deep as we've been in some other years,

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01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 14: but really solid there with the you know again, a

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01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 14: really nice mix of slot corners and then the defensive tackles.

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01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 14: It's not as deep as the edge wresser group in

1641
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 14: this draft, but there's some real intriguing guys you know,

1642
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 14: with some traits, a lot a lot of you know,

1643
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 14: three hundred and twenty plus pound guys. You know, once

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01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 14: you get into that, you know, outside the first round

1645
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 14: and maybe into that late second round, second round to

1646
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 14: fourth round. I think it is a nice little sweet

1647
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 14: spot there. You got some some real big guys in there.

1648
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 14: And as teams are playing with more shell coverage and

1649
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 14: just about everybody is and they want to stop the

1650
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 14: run with fewer bodies, I think the you know, the

1651
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 14: presence of these three hundred plus pound dts why they

1652
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 14: might not be you know, big time upside pass thrush players.

1653
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 14: I think they're starting to have a little more value again. Hey, Daniel,

1654
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 14: offensive tackles, What is the gap between Monroe Freeling in

1655
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 14: the top two and how does an offensive tackle.

1656
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 4: Make up a gap in this pre draft process?

1657
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't look, Monroe Freeling's gonna have a lot

1658
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 14: of love, you know, as we go through the rest

1659
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 14: of the process. I don't think it's that big of

1660
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 14: a gap there with with him and the top guys.

1661
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Speaker 14: I really like Blake Miller. I would say most teams

1662
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 14: would have Monroe Freeling over Blake Miller, but I don't

1663
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 14: think you know, you're talking about just off the way

1664
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 14: I see him, you're talking about the top two guys

1665
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 14: who are my twelfth and thirteenth players, and the next

1666
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 14: two or the next three really twenty three, twenty four,

1667
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 14: twenty nine, even with the next one. So there's a

1668
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 14: big clump of them there. And how do you close

1669
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 14: the gap? Well, I think a lot of it's going

1670
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 14: to be, you know, meeting with these teams and you know,

1671
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 14: how well do you understand it? You know how you know,

1672
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 14: how do they feel comfortable with you in terms of

1673
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 14: your ability to you know, to absorb what you're giving

1674
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 14: them and instruction. I think the Zoom meetings that they

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01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 14: have now is incredibly valuable that we didn't have before

1676
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 14: with scouting. You used to have to fly out and

1677
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 14: visit with the kid. Now you can just hop on zoom,

1678
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 14: pull up game tape and go over it. So they'll

1679
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,799
Speaker 14: have a chance to meet and discuss those things with teams.

1680
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 14: And you know, look, the physical testing is still plays

1681
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 14: a role. I mean, I think Gray's able last year

1682
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 14: jump thirty six and a half inches, which was pretty

1683
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 14: freaky and showed how explosive he was. So I'm anxious

1684
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 14: to watch these guys kind of move around a little bit,

1685
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 14: see how they do in that regard. But I don't

1686
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 14: think it's some you know, some sizeable gap where it's

1687
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 14: going to be you're the fortieth, you know, ranked player

1688
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 14: and you've got to get up to surpass the guy

1689
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 14: who's the fifth ranked player. I think it's a little

1690
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 14: bit closer than that. I wouldn't I wouldn't put that

1691
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 14: top order to sleep just yet.

1692
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 7: Hi Daniel. For the Browns specifically with two picks in

1693
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 7: the first round and then a high second round pick,

1694
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 7: obviously with the main focus on the offensive side of

1695
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 7: the ball, where would you see kind of their direction

1696
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 7: with those two first round picks kind of looking at

1697
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 7: offensive line and wide receiver.

1698
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean they don't have an offensive line, so

1699
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 14: I mean like that's you got to you gotta five

1700
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 14: guys to run out there. So that's where, you know,

1701
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 14: we'll see what they can accomplish in free agency, but

1702
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 14: they've got to have a heavy investment there, you know.

1703
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 14: I think there's you know, two offensive tackles that are

1704
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 14: in that that range up there with Mali Noah and Fanu.

1705
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 14: But there's also opportunities for them if they wanted to wait,

1706
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 14: they could get one at twenty four. I propose the

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01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 14: idea of doing both, of just getting your two tackles

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01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 14: there and not really relying on Dwan Jones to stay

1709
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 14: healthy going forward. And if somehow he surprised you and

1710
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 14: stays healthy and played at some crazy elite level and

1711
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 14: you wanted to kick one of the other two guys inside,

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01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 14: you could do that. But yeah, to me, the offensive

1713
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 14: line is a place I would I would be looking.

1714
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 14: You know where they are. They're kind of you know,

1715
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Speaker 14: I think the best offensive lineman in the draft is

1716
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 14: the Penn State interior offensive lineman. Yo wanna, but you

1717
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 14: know where their position and where they picked not going

1718
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 14: to be there at twenty four. And I don't think

1719
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 14: you're going to take the interior alignment at six. So

1720
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 14: maybe that's a name that if you were to maneuver

1721
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 14: around a little bit, if you told me that they

1722
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 14: if let me give you the perfect draft, if they

1723
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 14: took malignoah and that was their first pick out of

1724
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 14: Miami and then they were to move up a little

1725
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 14: bit from twenty four. And I know people will say

1726
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 14: you don't move up for a guard. That's a no no,

1727
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 14: But man, you could end up with Yowana and Malinoa.

1728
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 3: You've you've all of.

1729
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 14: A sudden got two really really dominant, potentially two dominant

1730
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 14: players for that offensive line.

1731
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 17: Just kind of you kind of touched down a little

1732
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 17: bit earlier with the college landscape and realignment and everything,

1733
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 17: and I'm just kind of curious your thoughts on NIL

1734
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 17: and the transfer portal impacting decisions to prospects, whether it

1735
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 17: be good or bad going forward.

1736
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think it's definitely interesting to kind of try

1737
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 14: and figure out, you know, why.

1738
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 3: Guys moved around.

1739
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 14: I think somebody might be unmuted. I was talking to

1740
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 14: an SEC head coach of the day and said that

1741
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 14: they break it up into a couple of different categories,

1742
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 14: which is guys transfer because they want money, like that's

1743
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 14: the there's the one bucket. There's guys that transfer because

1744
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 14: they want playing time because they're not getting opportunities. And

1745
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 14: there's guys transferring because they want to challenge themselves, like

1746
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 14: they're kind of moving up and level and competition. And

1747
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 14: you know, I think it's gonna be interesting as we

1748
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 14: have more of data on this going forward, as if

1749
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 14: you were to kind of look at these different buckets

1750
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,879
Speaker 14: and we can look back with the track record to see,

1751
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:45,879
Speaker 14: you know, which guys have had success.

1752
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 2: Is there anything to it?

1753
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 14: I don't know. I don't know yet. I don't think

1754
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 14: there's enough to go off of. But I do think

1755
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 14: five years from now, we're going to have a better

1756
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 14: feel for how do you categorize the guys as they've

1757
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 14: moved around and you know what impact doesn't have. So

1758
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 14: I think we're a few years away from learning more

1759
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 14: about this whole thing. But I know, from a scouting standpoint,

1760
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 14: I've actually, you know, I feel like I have to

1761
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 14: whisper it, but I've kind of enjoyed it because I've

1762
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 14: got a chance to see guys in different systems. I've

1763
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 14: got a chance to see some some lower level competition,

1764
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 14: guys move up in competition. So I'm not having to

1765
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 14: make as big of a projection I referenced, you know earlier,

1766
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 14: we're seeing with the you know, the quality of competition

1767
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 14: you're seeing each and every week now, I think it

1768
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 14: makes it a little bit easier to see what you

1769
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 14: got there and the other thing we used to be.

1770
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 14: You don't know how many times I've sat in draft

1771
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 14: rooms over eight years and it was how you know,

1772
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 14: I'm worried about this guy with money, Like we give

1773
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 14: this guy some money, you know, and he's got some

1774
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 14: free time, like I don't know. Well, you don't have

1775
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 14: to wonder anymore. Like these guys have had to navigate

1776
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 14: that and handle that, and you find out those that

1777
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 14: can and those that can't. So I think in some

1778
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 14: ways it's made scouting easier.

1779
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 18: Hey, Daniel, thank you for your time today. And I

1780
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 18: just wanted to kind of zoom out on the draft

1781
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 18: class and a team like the Steelers who have those

1782
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 18: twelve picks, the idea of trading up in the first round.

1783
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 18: How many blue chip talents are there this year, and

1784
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 18: what is the value of Day two guys relative to

1785
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 18: the last couple classes.

1786
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 14: I think it's a good it's a great question. I

1787
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 14: think it's a good Day two. I would not anticipate

1788
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 14: the Steelers, you know, partner with those picks to move

1789
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 14: up in this draft. First of all, I think they

1790
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 14: they've done a really good job of investing in bigs,

1791
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,440
Speaker 14: and usually you move up for quarterbacks or bigs, you know, quarterbacks,

1792
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 14: pass rushers, those are usually the ones you go up

1793
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 14: for or a tackle. Well, they've invested, you know, in

1794
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 14: the in the offense and defensive lines, and there's not

1795
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 14: a quarterback that's going to be worth chasing. So I

1796
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 14: don't really see them, you know, moving up for any

1797
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 14: of these other guys. And I think that you know,

1798
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 14: the perimeter needs that they have wide receiver, they'll be

1799
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 14: good options for them. If they want to go corner department,

1800
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 14: there's going to be you know, ways they can go

1801
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 14: there as well, so or anywhere in the secondary, so

1802
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 14: you know, safety could be in the mix as well.

1803
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,759
Speaker 14: So to me, I don't really see that as a direction.

1804
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 14: If anything, just because of the uncertainty of the quarterback

1805
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 14: position going off into the future, I would think that

1806
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 14: they'd be more likely to put that car in reverse

1807
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 14: than to go forward just to get some extra assets

1808
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 14: either this year next year. So I just don't think

1809
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 14: it would make a lot of sense for him.

1810
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 2: Thanks everybody. All Right, there you go, and we'll talk

1811
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 2: to Daniel Jeremiah next week and that's where we will

1812
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: join you from Indianapolis in the NFL scouting combine. ESPN

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