WEBVTT - #460 - Rum Nitty

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, rum Nitty don't want you to check me out

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bootleg cav podcast. Huh zon Zones on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo Man, the Bootlet cav Podcast. We got a special

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<v Speaker 2>guests in here, rum Nitty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah man. What's the word welcome?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, sir, appreciate you long overdue representing Phoenix man my hometown.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what part of Phoenix? You're from? West side? Like

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<v Speaker 1>we're at the forty thirty Times VG. You're in the

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<v Speaker 1>VGs man. Shout out to all the murder veils.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are in the fucking shits for sure. Shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to Maryville man, shout out to the veil man. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. I always tell everybody, like, who doesn't say

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<v Speaker 2>like Phoenix got because you know, the south side is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Now your south side has been coming up, the new

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<v Speaker 1>houses over there. South side has been the grimmiest for

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<v Speaker 1>the longest for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, Yo, I remember we were driving. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a bunch of my homies from out of town

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<v Speaker 2>in Arizona, and we drove from like downtown Phoenix to

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<v Speaker 2>uh to the West Gate.

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<v Speaker 1>I took the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, you take the streets. You

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<v Speaker 2>go through all the ship. I was like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>this ship is active over here, dog, and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the West Side is viralss fuck. Now you see that

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok account. The dude like goes in interviews all the

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<v Speaker 2>crackheads and like prostitutes and ships from the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been hearing about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all on like twenty seventh Avenue and like

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<v Speaker 2>fucking Camelback or like thirty fifth Avenue.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the most grammiest parts of the city. The Blade, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>shit is crazy. Shout out to the Blade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shout out to the Blade. My goodness. Anyway, So

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<v Speaker 2>for people who don't know, man, obviously you're one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most legendary battle rappers of all time at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>How long? First of all, how did you get started

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping in general out of the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, me and my little bro was doing this

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<v Speaker 1>just as a hobby. Yeah, just like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>What a year where you, like did you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you started like recording taking a serious type shit recording.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking it serious? I would say around two thousand, fourth

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<v Speaker 1>got three four or fever, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like around the era of like an as

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<v Speaker 2>like sitting Q Willie north Pole.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, definitely know what I'm saying. We looked up

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<v Speaker 1>to all him still do.

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<v Speaker 2>Man Squad was cracking. Was that the name Atlas?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I remember Atlas. We sucked for that.

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<v Speaker 2>What Atlae was? He called himself the king as Remember

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<v Speaker 2>you had that album?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Remember that? Yeah, shout out to Alice.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout to Poker Fay, shout out to uh Survivalists, book

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Survivalist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Booky was that dude?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure. So when did you, like, did you

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<v Speaker 2>guys get any traction making music or did you not

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<v Speaker 2>get any traction until.

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<v Speaker 1>You ended up doing the battling? Yeah? Yeah, the battle was.

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<v Speaker 1>The battling really kind of like broke the door down

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But I didn't intend to be a battler,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I started battle rapping just

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<v Speaker 1>to get notoriety so I can then later do my music.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody at that time knew battle rap

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna become what he became for me for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Not like, so was there a scene in Phoenix for

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<v Speaker 2>the Battleship Because I always tell everybody like, I'm fucking

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<v Speaker 2>diehard hip hop right right? But the battle rap niche

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<v Speaker 2>like outside when I was growing up and we were

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<v Speaker 2>down like like whatever was on the mother like old

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<v Speaker 2>school fucking DVDs or like Juice battling people on Napster

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<v Speaker 2>ju Weis and all that stuff, like the whole new

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<v Speaker 2>era of battling. Every once in a while, I'll catch one,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when like world Stars more popular because world Star

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<v Speaker 2>always posts them. But it's just like the whole world

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<v Speaker 2>has just missed me. Bro No, Like I know the names,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, but it's definitely like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like my boy Interstate Fats Free Free, Interstate Fats Fats

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<v Speaker 2>was adult battle. Yeah, he was at a Vegas but

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<v Speaker 2>but there was like a scene in Vegas that A

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<v Speaker 2>had seen. Was there something going on similar in Phoenix?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, yeah, Sandtrap we had the sayd trap Man,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Keith wright Man. Keith wright was he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of started everything as far as from what I know,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the battle rap scene out here in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the first few I connected with. We

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<v Speaker 1>was just doing it locally for some like I was betting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was betting on my own pocket type shit, so

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<v Speaker 1>you were like putting your own bread up. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because at that time, I didn't think this was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a career or anything like that. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to at that time. I would even on

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<v Speaker 1>No Notoriety. Shit, I was just trying to get some bread.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just betting, and I just felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was good enough to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever freestyle on mail ab Back in the

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<v Speaker 2>day there was like the male aff ciphers were a thing, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not. No, I never did that way back,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm talking like shit. One thing I did was

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<v Speaker 2>U two Tones. Two Tone had a tournament back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day. I want a little freestyle tournament he had

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day. Oh shit, what year was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Stick? Twenty twelve? Yeah, that was right before I started

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<v Speaker 1>Battle record officially.

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<v Speaker 2>So you go from like four oh five putting out

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<v Speaker 2>music locally and then you said twenty twelve is when

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<v Speaker 2>you started to get in the mixing the battleshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say twenty fourteen is

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<v Speaker 1>when I got like my first look like outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the city, right. I think it was me and Danny Marris.

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<v Speaker 2>Man he was shot to Danny Myers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. Danny Maris is a legend of this for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember who you who you beat in the

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<v Speaker 1>two tone battle? No? I don't, I don't. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. Shout out to dude, man, shout out to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Any local rappers of notoriety and as that you you

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<v Speaker 2>went up against in any.

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<v Speaker 1>Battles, battle stacks, a battle. What's he going? What's Syfe

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<v Speaker 1>going by? Now? I don't know he's going by his

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<v Speaker 1>DeShawn Corey. Yeah, battle, dude, he just.

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<v Speaker 2>Won the Maddie Ice, didn't he.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he cause see what he got locked up

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<v Speaker 2>right and it got out?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I already got locked up for something. But I

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<v Speaker 1>battled him. I battled Jay Fross. J. Fross was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that dog, Jay Fross. He had a twin too.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot this. I remember that name, forgot his, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot his twin name. But I battled both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But they was like the top dog when I first

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<v Speaker 1>started battle Raven out here, He's like, you got a battle,

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<v Speaker 1>j Kid White White was one up. They was like

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<v Speaker 1>top dogs in the city. Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>So you end up going in twenty fourteen and getting

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<v Speaker 2>your first national Look what was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Battle Kinga not reached out to me. After I did

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<v Speaker 1>the Stacks battle, shout out to Bolo TV. My battled

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<v Speaker 1>on Bolo TV the Distax battle, and Jay Fox from

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<v Speaker 1>the Suns reached out to me. It was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get you on King of the Dot.

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<v Speaker 1>They liked your the material, they want to get you

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<v Speaker 1>over here, but they wasn't paying for my flight travel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Room, So I was still

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the pocket. Coming out of the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>at that time, you feel me. But that was like

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<v Speaker 1>one of my first big looks to West, felt like

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<v Speaker 1>this might be something.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there money on the line if you won?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like we just got.

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<v Speaker 1>This opportunity to get some views. You know. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, get your name? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was your first paid battle where you're like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm showing up on getting the bag even if I lose.

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<v Speaker 2>When when loser draw or was it a battle where

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<v Speaker 2>you had to had to win the battle to get

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<v Speaker 2>the money?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that was more so when when we first started

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<v Speaker 1>when we was actually betting right, But my first paid

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<v Speaker 1>battle to where I felt like, no, I just got

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<v Speaker 1>paid the battle up as when I battled be Magic,

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<v Speaker 1>I battle be Magic on King of the Dot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember the year, but I remember right before that

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<v Speaker 1>they invited me to go to Canada. In my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't got Canada ticket money. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I don't got you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>But shout out less one and aspect. They paid for

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<v Speaker 1>my ticket, my hotel room. You feel me flew out there,

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<v Speaker 1>went crazy and after that they started paying. I got

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<v Speaker 1>paid directly after that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fire. I always wonder that too, because like you'll

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<v Speaker 2>always see, like there's obviously tons of money in.

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<v Speaker 1>This shit, right My first check was falling it out though,

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<v Speaker 1>but still, you know what I'm saying. But at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is the most I've ever got paid

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<v Speaker 1>to rap. You know what I'm saying. I've never wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>and got money outside of betting my own money, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I'm like, Nah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>something's working, you know what I'm saying. That's how I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like something working.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's just crazy because it's such like I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, it hasn't hit, like there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of attempts to make the Battle Wrap circuit a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more mainstream, like even Drake getting involved. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, I feel like it just hasn't gotten

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<v Speaker 2>over the hump, right, But I feel like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>need to because I feel like if it got over

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<v Speaker 2>the hump, it's not supposed to be mainstream. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like this is the getaway from this is what

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<v Speaker 1>this is like the last true form of hip hop. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, there's there's no slight to the actual

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<v Speaker 1>rappers and the people that are doing music. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is the last true form of just raw hip hop, right,

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<v Speaker 1>B boying and graffiti, and this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>last true forms.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't feel like it needs to be commercialized

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<v Speaker 2>because you won the Drake Battle, the one that Drake

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<v Speaker 2>was behind the tournament? Yeah, yeah, and so did he

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<v Speaker 2>put up? How much was that one hundred k?

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<v Speaker 1>There was one hundred k and then the the last

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<v Speaker 1>day of the finals he put another fifty k up.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got a buck fifty off that battle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Me and my brother get you got to shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to me my brother. We split that's fire, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Centy fire.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Do you feel like because I do feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously shout to Drake. He did get this

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<v Speaker 2>dismembered by Kendrick God bless him.

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<v Speaker 1>But U shout out Drake, shout out Kendrick Man. That

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<v Speaker 1>was dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was that for you? What was that like?

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<v Speaker 2>Being a battle rapper seeing like this. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't had a great battle.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right right years. I was entertained. It was entertained,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like I was just being

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<v Speaker 1>a fan at that time. Like I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>was great for hip hop rap in general, like we

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<v Speaker 1>need battle with I mean, rapping has always been about

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<v Speaker 1>having confidence, being you know, confident and thinking you're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>So why not go at the the you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. The other guy that they say is better?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it was good for the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>From your perspective as somebody who's battled tons and tons

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<v Speaker 2>of times, what approach would you have taken if you

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<v Speaker 2>were a Drake? Because the approach he did take was

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<v Speaker 2>obviously one that did not pan out for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that's hard to say. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like I would have probably laid back a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on the singing, singing shit you feel me? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Kendrick is a rappers rapper, like he's you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, he raps his ass off, So I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of felt like I would have just took a

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<v Speaker 1>more direct approach. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like also, like the first two disc records obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>like Family Matters and push Ups weren't just aimed at Kendrick.

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<v Speaker 2>They were aimed to everybody, So it was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I feel like the ship that he was

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<v Speaker 2>going at him for was like like being short. I'm like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>like we know he's short. Like I feel like Kendrick

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<v Speaker 2>just like peeled back his whole existence. It wasn't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we've ever seen anything like that before.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro. We was just talking about it earlier, like this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reminded me of rue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but even that was more like surface of a

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<v Speaker 2>like you're a bit you saw like a pop tar sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy at that time. But like Kendrick, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like just like just picked him apart, like piece

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<v Speaker 2>by piece, lyrical human different as like the human like

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, like, I feel like, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>like John was never the same, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>Drake will always be Drake and he'll always be the biggest,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll and he's gonna come back and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have other hit records. But I just don't feel like it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we'll ever look at Drake in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of like hip hop fans, like real hip hop fans,

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<v Speaker 2>Like obviously there's a lot of people who are Drake

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<v Speaker 2>fans that aren't hip hop fans per se. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it'll ever be the same for him.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're saying, was he cool though when you chopped.

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<v Speaker 1>It up with them? Yeah, real humble, real down to earth,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Cool on what I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you should have called you to get some bars. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of fans was like, man, he should have

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<v Speaker 1>tapped in with Nitdy and got some of them alien punches. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you uh Have you ever had somebody like that

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<v Speaker 2>ever reach out trying to get some ghost writing from you?

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<v Speaker 1>If I did, I will speak on it. And I'm Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what I'm saying, I feel like that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying who but has that ever happened? Like

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<v Speaker 2>in general, I'm not saying you don't got to tell

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<v Speaker 2>me who if it's happened. Uh yeah, yeah, that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man, that's a I feel like that's a that's

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<v Speaker 2>how Royce ben shit shots to roys to five nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the day, Royce was fucking writing for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>He was right for Diddy was fucking Royce was putting

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<v Speaker 2>that pen to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. Yeah, but Royce is one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's definitely one of them, alien god lovel mc

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<v Speaker 1>royce is one of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Was you obviously just had the just huge battle with

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<v Speaker 2>Loaded Lucks, which I feel like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>kind of looked at as like the fucking the super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl or whenever you want to look at it, was

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<v Speaker 2>like like all timer, would you say the consensus would

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<v Speaker 2>be that you took an l.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like when it first well they

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<v Speaker 1>just barely dropped it, but when they first dropped the

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<v Speaker 1>pay per view, it was kind of up in the air, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel me? But I don't know. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>go off too much of bloggers saying who won?

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<v Speaker 2>I go off with the fans, right, what is the

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<v Speaker 2>fan feedback Ben all my fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna say, I want all his fans gonna say he won.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fair. Yeah, I mean the fact it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was even a debate because at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, would you say, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>when I was talking to Damy Marers, I was like, yea,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the goat in this battleship? I think he mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>your name, he mentioned Loaded Lucks, he mentioned a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of other people's name. But when you like prepare for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who who you know is on your level like

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<v Speaker 2>that and who's done so like like how do you

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<v Speaker 2>come up with shit? Like what is the what is

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<v Speaker 2>your preparation process for like a just any battle in general,

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<v Speaker 2>but specifically like this battle, how big it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really do too much changing because me being

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation before me trying to do other things

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<v Speaker 1>and fans telling me you should just did what got

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<v Speaker 1>you there? Yeah, do what you do, do what we

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<v Speaker 1>know you for, you feel me. So I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>do too much changing.

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<v Speaker 2>For that better, So like, how do you how are

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<v Speaker 2>you preparing me? When they go right, I go left?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying it's kind of hard to

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<v Speaker 1>break down my preparation style. I just I just like

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<v Speaker 1>to think outside the box, like I'll just I don't

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<v Speaker 1>try to stay in the norm purposely, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So I don't even have to watch too

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<v Speaker 1>much of my opponent. I don't have to watch too

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<v Speaker 1>much of what the other opponent said to him, because

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I think outside the box so

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<v Speaker 1>much that I just I just really just try to

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<v Speaker 1>be me. That's where the alien come from, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there ever, like in your opinion, because we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times battles will go viral because of

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<v Speaker 2>either somebody gets slapped or someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes over the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a line you won't cross with somebody, especially

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of times you guys are.

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<v Speaker 1>Colleagues too, right, right, I've always said that, Like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not like you guys are like fighting after the show,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot like that. I feel like the elite guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys travel together. You guys are gonna know.

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<v Speaker 1>All of us. You know what I'm saying, Nine times

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten, when the camera goes off, everybody extends

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<v Speaker 1>the hand, We shake hands, and we go party, drink smoking.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there like a line you won't cross?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a lot of lines I won't cross. What

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<v Speaker 1>is like the main thing? It's just off limits for

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<v Speaker 1>you family members, Yeah, the dead ones, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. That's just it's like an

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<v Speaker 1>easy call, right, Yeah, that's to me. It's just anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, anything of that nature. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and anything that you haven't said yourself, if you put it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you brought it to the light, like yo, my

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<v Speaker 1>moms won't crack and shit, I'll talk about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't you know what I'm saying. I wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>dig no.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Yo, I found out your mom's a crack headed

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<v Speaker 2>and now you have right now act.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. If you put it out

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<v Speaker 1>to the people, it's definitely exactly it's fair game, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But outside of that, I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't go dig up no no story about you

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<v Speaker 1>or find out your mother's name.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people be doing that ship. I feel like these

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<v Speaker 2>motherfuckers be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Nard War people do shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that frowned upon amongst the main guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think against I mean within us, like as the

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<v Speaker 1>Battle Rappers, some of us like frownd upon it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>certain fans, certain fans that they like it, certain battle

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<v Speaker 1>rappers like the Arsenals and snow Slight Art. So he

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<v Speaker 1>likes he's known for disrespect, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't feel like he feels. Do you think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do people like pay for information?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't doubt it. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. That's crazy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't doubt you know what I'm saying. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>whole Walmart situation happened with me, I wouldn't. I was

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<v Speaker 1>taking pictures with fans right at the door, like in

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<v Speaker 1>my vest, Like you know what I'm saying, So right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody paid them for it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can see somebody doing some weird shit like they're paying

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<v Speaker 1>fans for some info about Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>If anybody got any dirt on so and so, tap in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you gotta do is tap into somebody with

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<v Speaker 1>a tapping with somebody from your city.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, I feel like it's always like a combination

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<v Speaker 2>of that where it's like, you know, like if there's

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<v Speaker 2>something super topable that happens right before the battle in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, trying to figure out a way how you

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<v Speaker 2>could kind of incorporate that shit into.

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<v Speaker 1>Like are you like current events.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like if something happened like I remember one time

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<v Speaker 2>Fats had a battle against Philly Swain and it was

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<v Speaker 2>the day Whennie Houston died.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I see what he's like, and he had a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking I forget what his whitney bar was, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was fucking it. So that's like a double edged sword.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's good and bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good at the time for the crowd, but the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is bad about it when you re rochet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The only thing I feel like there's bad about

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<v Speaker 1>it is a lot of battle rappers aren't dumb, so

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people might use that. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, that same idea that same day.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you always say like anything anytime? Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen the tweets of like people anytime something like that happens,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always like a fake fabulous bar that Twitter comes

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<v Speaker 2>up with. What that has to do with, Like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like whatever's in the news and.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, it's pretty funny about yo fa.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so crazy because with all the success you've had

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<v Speaker 2>and all the recognition you've gotten, I feel like somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>when we think of like the Arizona hip hop greats,

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<v Speaker 2>like are you always on here? Like Futuristic, You'll hear

0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.639
<v Speaker 2>guys like Willie, But I feel like somehow you're always

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like out of that discussion. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's because you're more known for the battle rap shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I always speak on it. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I got to do a few consistent years with music

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<v Speaker 1>a shut that they say is up. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Because I know talent wise, I'm I can

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<v Speaker 1>bang with the big boys. I can hang with anybody

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to music, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just got to show them, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I feel like that's.

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<v Speaker 2>It, is it? Because that's always one thing about battle

0:17:55.520 --> 0:18:02.000
<v Speaker 2>rappers that like the battle the music disconnect always is.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like it's always there. There's been like certain guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's the homies just got arrested. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>on the show a bunch of times. He's from Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>Surf Yeah to Surf Free, Serf Free Serf. But like

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<v Speaker 2>he's done a really good job. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like there's a lot of people who found

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<v Speaker 2>him through the music because he's got collap projects with me. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah whatever. He's define also a top tier you know

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<v Speaker 2>back No, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact he was one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first and only ones to to break through.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, why do you think why do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it is difficult for battle rappers to have success making records.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like one of the most one

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<v Speaker 1>of the like the most obvious reasons is we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to turn our battle rap fans into our music fans,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what battle rap is. At the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. They don't like they don't like to be music.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like it. That's why they love us, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why that's that's why they tune in the way they

0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.360
<v Speaker 1>tune in. So I feel like that's a no, go already,

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<v Speaker 1>let them be your battle rap fans and create your

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<v Speaker 1>music fans. Or if they want to travel with you,

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<v Speaker 1>then let them do that. But as far as trying

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<v Speaker 1>to turn these battle rap fans into everyday radio hit

0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.560
<v Speaker 1>music fans, then they don't tune into that orch is

0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.200
<v Speaker 1>catalog like you know exactly. They don't tune into that

0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>type music. Yeah, so when they listen to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of my music, they're like, where's the punchlines, niddy, where's

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the you know what I'm saying, where's the the shoot

0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.359
<v Speaker 1>them up? Bang bang killing my mind? This is my music.

0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to different create a vibe. I'm not trying

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to battle rap the beat, you know what I'm saying.

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.440
<v Speaker 1>So they're listening for something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you're your approach is just totally different when

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.159
<v Speaker 2>when in the studio than if you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely, Yeah, I got.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one thing I'm like, man like, like we

0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 2>always even I do it, like I don't even like

0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I always bring up guys like you know,

0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I shout out to MC magic because like the fucking

0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Triple O, G Brocadala Iraq, all those guys. But I

0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.080
<v Speaker 2>feel like you get lost in the sauce when it

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.680
<v Speaker 2>comes to a Z. But like dog, you're like low key,

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.440
<v Speaker 2>like the one of the biggest, Like you know what

0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying in your own lane. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's love. But yeah, are you are you like gonna

0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 2>apply yourself to pursuing the actually dropping more music and

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<v Speaker 2>being more consistent.

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely they gonna see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my face this year.

0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Because, like music, how much does your bandwidth get taken

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.920
<v Speaker 2>from when you're preparing for like a big battle from

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 2>from that stuff.

0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 1>A lot. I'm not gonna say a lot. And then

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I can actually make a lot of music while I'm

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 1>preparing for battles, but I can't put it out and

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<v Speaker 1>promote and do all the other things behind. You know

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I can make a lot of music,

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's like it's like you gotta go on a run,

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta you know exactly, I can't put the consistency

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:38.600
<v Speaker 1>behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the battleship big on TikTok yet, Yeah, it's the

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.919
<v Speaker 2>number one music discovery app in the world.

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A battle rapp is starting to get big on

0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.000
<v Speaker 1>TikTok As far as them doing like the voiceovers, the

0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.000
<v Speaker 1>acting out and all that. I think it's starting to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you in the building when Daylight took a ship

0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.960
<v Speaker 1>at the Celebrity Theater. Yeah, he never actually took a ship,

0:20:57.960 --> 0:20:59.639
<v Speaker 1>but yeah he's in the building. Whatever the fuck it

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>was did. They escorted them out the building. Man kicked

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:02.720
<v Speaker 1>him up out of there.

0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Were you on that ticket? Yeah, Arsenal okay, okay, okay,

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that was that was uh that Shots of Daylight too.

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:15.359
<v Speaker 2>It's also alien crazy though. What is the craziest thing

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you've seen just in that space, because we've seen people

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.119
<v Speaker 2>get slapped obviously Daylight trying to take a ship on

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<v Speaker 2>stage a celebrity theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and like White and White in general, that was

0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely one of them. That was definitely one of them.

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I was there when a disaster in math got and

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Kelly oh ship. Yeah, I was right there. That's all

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I here is do it, do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was the cannabis cassidy.

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there for that, but that's raized. That's crazy, man.

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>That was somebody that legendary, somebody that looked up to

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to bring out your notebook, like even outside of battle rap,

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that just seems like just a cardinal rule not to

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<v Speaker 1>do what he's doing. Pulled out the note but I

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>got thirty pages of rhymes and his motherfucker one.

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I asked him about it. I interviewed him and asked

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<v Speaker 2>him about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not too he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, he didn't like I brought it up. Yeah, but

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 2>he was like I think he said I was prepaying

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 2>for a last minute.

0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 1>And that nigga said he like got Tom's Tom cruise

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Mom's shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's very evident that not everyone is

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.159
<v Speaker 2>meant to do that format of rapping.

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.440
<v Speaker 1>No, No, that's the fact that, right.

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.159
<v Speaker 2>And there are people who are. Yeah, I mean I

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 2>think back to even like a guy like Royce, Like

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 2>do you remember when Royce and mister Fab went added

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 2>on stage and like mister Fab like in that setting

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 2>beat Royce to five nine. Now it's Royce to five nine,

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 2>a better MC than mister Fab, I would take you, I.

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Think, I think I think the consistents would say that.

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Now mister Fab is a very underrated MC obviously, but

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 2>in that specific setting, that was a crazy Yeah.

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like a difference between being a good rapper and

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a good battle rapper t Rex that way.

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>In my mind, I'm like, yo, I'm a million times

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>better than this nigga. And he was up there with

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>me saying light ship, normal ship, and I'm like, what's

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 1>going on.

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a whole different ballgain right, Now it's totally different.

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like and that's why I feel like, you know,

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 2>even like a guy like you know, that's why when

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 2>we because you know, Meek Milk came up battling fools

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 2>on Smack DVDs and ship.

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.119
<v Speaker 1>And then when he fucking ate that l against Drake,

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, it.

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Was so disappointed because I was like, oh, Meek's gonna.

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Cook him because this is what he does.

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 2>No, you man should have got you man, Shud got

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 2>you resting bars man.

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I let you boy man, I let you boy man,

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I got bors going for the low.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is your in your opinion? If you were to

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>take yourself out of the discussion, Uh, who's your? Who's

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 2>your top five? And all time and battle rap room.

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>All the time. This ship is so difficult to answer

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>because I just feel like it's so many different erarors

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and so many different people did what they did in

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.239
<v Speaker 1>their time. Let's say, since since you started, since I

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>started definitely geechee uh tay rocket steal in that that

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that lineup torque, since I started surf stealing there. Yeah,

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>still in the top five line up. I had to

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>say one more uh clips.

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's so crazy. I only know one out

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 2>of five people you just mentioned. That tells you how

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>disconnected I am from that.

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Surf that it surf big dog, I.

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Know obviously, like you know, like like loaded Lug said

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>your arsenal disaster, Yeah, I know those.

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Like the the originators, right, those wing that got the

0:24:58.440 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>eyes on the sport.

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure to begin with for sure, for sure. Yeah,

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>shout out to the DVD days man move And do

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:13.160
<v Speaker 2>you feel like there's a place for the One thing

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.959
<v Speaker 2>I always want to see is like you could gamble

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>on anything, right, So you gamble on wrestling if you

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 2>use the off site. Is there any site where you

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 2>could like throw my real bread down on a battle.

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 1>No, but I'm in contact with a few different people

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that are in the works of doing it.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 2>And the problem with that is like figuring out if

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 2>it's close, what is like the unbiased deciding factor, right,

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>because people could vote online, I'm sure, but then it's like, okay,

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 2>well you could probably have bots vote.

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And that's the one thing about battle reck just

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>in general in general, we don't have a like a

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 1>set judging system that everybody can agree to and be like, no,

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>this is how we're going to judge these.

0:25:58.000 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I think if you had that, it would have to

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 2>be like you'd have to have like three really well

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 2>off okay dudes who are like maybe Joe Budden or

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:07.679
<v Speaker 2>like you know, somebody who.

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>You could trust, would actually kind of But then again,

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is even at that, that's all it's still gonna be. Yeah,

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>not even personal Buyers is still gonna be opinion on

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>it the same, you know, I'm saying.

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I think even like when you watch like

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>a boxing match, like it goes down to the judges card,

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 2>but who are the judges and do they have their

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 2>own money up?

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 1>No, that makes sense because a lot of that, a

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:31.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of that ship is so uneven. When you look

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>at a lot of boxing cards scores like some.

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 2>You're like, the motherfuckers got their own money. Like it's

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 2>almost to feel what you say. I feel what you're saying.

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like an imperfect system is hip hop.

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the word I was looking looking for. We

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>definitely have an imperfect system.

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like it'd be dope to be like, yoa,

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna throw some money on this ship I got.

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we definitely get it.

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.919
<v Speaker 2>Would it makes the money, well, it would make the

0:26:56.000 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 2>money like go through the roof. It would be like

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 2>the money would at least be like ten times. I

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>never think about it. If all this money is coming

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 2>into gamble, that means that y'all would get paid way

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>more bread because there's actual bread up like that. Shit

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>would change the game for show, because that's why there's

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 2>so much money in boxing because of the gambling.

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Bro I ain't really put two and two together like that.

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.439
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of smart, yeah, but you would have to

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 2>really like it couldn't get messy, and then hip hop

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>thinks would get messy. So you would have to really

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 2>have like a real like fucking Drake would have to

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 2>come through and like really be like yo, Well, I

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know about Drake anymore. Maybe Kendrick. Maybe Kendrick could

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>be the guy to set it up, you know, I

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>don't know about Drake. Shots of Canada though. Anyway, man,

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>so what you got coming up? Obviously that battle just

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>happened with Loaded Lux or or what else is on

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the way man? Anything? An the other battles in the

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 2>in the works.

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't even know if I'm supposed speak on this.

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm under contract for a battle. But they didn't release

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the or anything now. But I got it's supposed to

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>be August third, so that's coming out. They ain't release

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>the trailer, so now I really don't got to know.

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this will be uh August. Wait, you're supposed

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>to August third. Yeah, well this will probably come out

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Friday or no, what's today? You had to probably come

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 2>out Friday, which is August first.

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>But I don't, I don't. I think they pushed it back.

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I would say, damn yeah. Yeah. Outside of that, you know,

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 1>music just dropped the tape. What's understood on all streaming platforms.

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the midst of doing another tape right now.

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>My brother's in the midst of doing the tape. I'm

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>about to put some merch out, which merch for my fans.

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Probably drop another website so you can get the merchant

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and order some music. You know. There it is man, Yeah, no,

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>let up dot shot. Probably bring that back.

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>What's the best Mexican food in Arizona?

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>The best messic best Mesican food in Arizona comes from Tucson.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh you saying Tucson.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It comes from Tucson.

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Hey, listen, it is the proxy. I always say that.

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what the dog is of course, okay, you

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>know what that was created in the two something.

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't Yeah, yeah, but hey, there's a place on

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty Street, an Indian school. It's a ten out side.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I know you're talking about the best and.

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Ran hot dog in the fucking Arizona I've ever had.

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, that place is so bad. And it went

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>on Broadway and like seventh Street, yeah, or no, Southern

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>in seventh Street Southern and like seventh, seventh and seventh Street.

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's like a little hole in the

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>wall spot. One of the best oron dogs I ever

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>had as well.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 2>So you're a big Sonorian hot dog guy, you get

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>everything on it, loaded up whatever you got. Yeah, for sure,

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>super fow.

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Definitely though the Sonora's though, shout out too, so.

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to tu So I always say best, the most,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the closest proximity to the border has the best food.

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>That's not fuck with San Diego. San Diego got the

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>best ship because it's right by fucking Tier one.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>We fuck with Cali, but y'all they not fucking with

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the Mexican food in Arizona. We're close to the border.

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>San Diego, though, it's damn near Tijuana. Go to Tchula Vista.

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>You'll get some ship. But look, man, I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>pulling up a mixtape out now. And then Battle is

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<v Speaker 2>coming real soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, battle coming real soon. Go follow me up because

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my account. Uh ninty two three four three.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I think we're co judging this battle on

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona or whatever. That song sixteen competition with Maddie.

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<v Speaker 1>August August tenth, Yeah, yeah, that's happening for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so that'll be uh, that'll be interesting. Who do

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<v Speaker 2>you got in that battle that you know is competing?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a favorite that you you're looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the whole layout yet, but of course

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going for push your Luck. I want to push

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<v Speaker 1>your Luck to do his thing. I want Quincy to

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<v Speaker 1>do his thing. Chris Coke. I want Chris Coke to

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<v Speaker 1>do his thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Coke is a fucking murderer.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, you know what I'm saying. From the city.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to do your thing obviously, And I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna have heard T. Why was in there? T?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is the dope? He's from New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a guy named Osmond Benjamin. That's incredible. Yeah, Osmond's fired,

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<v Speaker 2>Be the Ruler. I think it's doing it. Isn't you

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<v Speaker 2>doing it again?

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<v Speaker 1>Rula ya te?

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<v Speaker 2>Who else is in there? Anybody else? Dope V the

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<v Speaker 2>kid from last year dealing? I think what's the name

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Jacob uh. I don't know. Man, It's gonna be interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>so that they're doing it over beats, right, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>so why? Yeah, I think it is all over beats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. That's kind of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Should be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I like it too, because Be the Ruler I

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<v Speaker 1>did not see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then I think they're they kind of know

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<v Speaker 2>who they're going to be. From what I've seen, people

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<v Speaker 2>have been calling each other out directly because they know

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<v Speaker 2>who they're gonna be facing already because of the seeds,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're gonna have tons of time to prepare.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it. I liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is interesting because some of the rappers that

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<v Speaker 2>are in this particular battle I don't think are battle rappers.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but I like that it's it's all beat

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not making them turn into battle rappers. You

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<v Speaker 1>can just Yeah. I like that. I like that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not acapella. Yeah, be the Ruler be Yeah, Be the

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<v Speaker 1>Ruler is gonna be dangerous, gonna beat Yeah, He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a good time. Man, we should have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>August tenth, August tenth, man type in, listen, brather, I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you pulling up, man, appreciate you off aving. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>go follow this guy, Go support him.

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<v Speaker 1>Rum nitty yeah, rum nitty two three four three on

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<v Speaker 1>Everything There It Is Bootlet Podcast, Boom