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Speaker 1: A lot of things we want to get to today

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Speaker 1: onlines and times. Thank you, by the way for clicking

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Speaker 1: You guys have been phenomenal. You've reached out to me

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Speaker 1: and mister Spencer Graves on social and you've shared your

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Speaker 1: thoughts about past episodes, and I love that you guys

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Speaker 1: do that. In fact, I'm going to bring up one.

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Speaker 1: It's the episode that we did with Brock Mosley. The

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Speaker 1: main reason is because we're breaking down the new schedules

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Speaker 1: that are out for the bass Master Elites and also

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Speaker 1: major league fishing with the bass Pro Tour. We're also

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Speaker 1: going to get into your local DNR, the one that's

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Speaker 1: in your state. You may not know that a lot

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Speaker 1: of dn rs are responsible for more than just hunting

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Speaker 1: actually some other things that happen that mean more money

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Speaker 1: to your local state, and we'll break that down too.

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Speaker 1: But first let's jump into it. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: bass Master Elite schedule for twenty twenty. And there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who are crying online. Oh, it's the

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Speaker 1: same old lakes. I could do this and blah blah blah. Yes,

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Speaker 1: some of the lakes are the same, but you got

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Speaker 1: to remember these places pay for bass Master to come there.

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Speaker 1: Places pay for MLF to come there. But they're also

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Speaker 1: going at different times, and as you know, anybody who

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Speaker 1: more exciting. So let's start out with the bass Master Elites.

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Speaker 1: February fifth through the eighth, they're going to be on

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Speaker 1: Lake Gunnersville. Lake Gunnersville always performs eleven months out of

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Speaker 1: just know fish bite there a lot. They had a

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Speaker 1: that Knoxville for the bass Master Classic, because when we

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Speaker 1: the conversation and we'll dive into all that, like why

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Speaker 1: they choose the locations that they choose. Last time it

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Speaker 1: I was a marshall in that tournament. First day, I

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Speaker 1: What I realized in that is most guys knew who

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's rigged. It's just you have a

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Speaker 1: So why wouldn't they go there. I like what bass

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Speaker 1: Because this one is incomplete. Redcrest has not been announced yet,

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Speaker 1: So they kick off on Lake Gunnersville, just like bass Master,

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Speaker 1: So the reason why they've held it on Lake Gunnersville

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