1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. Yes, there's disappointment, there's frustration and even anger. 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: We're right there with you on today's show. What happened 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? What happened in the past two weeks? 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: How do you explain it? Can it even be explained? 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: We do know this. It can't happen again. It's Cardinals 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode three eighty three, and it starts now. 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy 10 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: throws near sight of fitz pot He. He's into the 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: ensone for the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: So before we really begin today's show, I want to 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: do something MJ that I probably should have done yesterday 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: on Cardinal Talk and just kind of slip my mind 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: until I saw what the Vice President of Broadcasting and 17 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Digital Contents otherwise known as our boss, Tim Delaney, tweeted 18 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: out late yesterday. Or I should say late last night, 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: and that was a shout out to Tom Reid, the 20 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals longtime head athletic trainer. And this goes for 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: every trainer across the league because we all get caught 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: up in the day to day, week to week. The 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: season continues, rolls in from one week to the next week, 24 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: and we kind of lose sight that we're still in 25 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: the midst of a pandemic and the fact that the 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: National Football League was able to go seventeen weeks play 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: every single game. Yeah, there were some postponements, but there 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: was no games canceled. Every team had to deal with it, 29 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: so it's a level playing field in that aspect. But 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Tom Reid and his staff did and allowed us as 31 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: media members, as fans of the sport to enjoy this season. 32 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Cannot be overlooked, cannot be overshadowed. I don't know what 33 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: the reward is outside of a heartfelt thank you. Otherwise 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: the work we will never know what went through on 35 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: the team level, on the league level to get through 36 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty regular season. And here's hoping that we 37 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: don't have to do it again in twenty twenty one. Yeah, 38 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: well said and I thought Dave Pash and Ron Wolfley 39 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: before they signed off, they give a great shout out 40 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: to Tom Reid and the NFL. I mentioned this in August. 41 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: They were bent on playing an entire season regardless in 42 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: what you said is right. There were postponements, but there 43 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: weren't any cancelations. Every team played sixteen games two hundred 44 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: and fifty six to be exact. They were daily testing 45 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: even bye week this year. Players couldn't, you know, go on, 46 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: get out of town. And in the organization, they were 47 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: on top of it. So give give the NFL, but 48 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: also give the guys behind the scenes. I'd never get 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: the credit. You see him on game day and probably 50 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: when a player gets hurt, he comes out there. You'll 51 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: see him going to the coach giving an update on 52 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: an injury. But it all starts with Tom Raid and 53 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: his staff and they've done a wonderful job. And you know, 54 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: I asked Cliff about the offseason, and right now we 55 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I got to assume the combine 56 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: is going to be a little different. But you have 57 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: to have, you know, face to face interviews, you gotta 58 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: have testing, you gotta have medical reports, and then we'll 59 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: see what happens with the NFL Draft. I think they 60 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: liked a lot of things from the virtual parts, So 61 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot to build on as we get into 62 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: our offseason conversation. There's a lot of questions facing the 63 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, just not a lot of answers, and 64 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: we might not know those answers for a while. And 65 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: as this twenty twenty one off season continues, we just 66 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: don't know what's next. We know that the Combine is 67 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: usually in February, and the Draft is in April, and 68 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: then there's mini camp and OTAs in training camp. But 69 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: all of that, as we saw a year ago, or 70 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: just say this to the completed twenty twenty offseason, the 71 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: league knows how to adjust and move forward, and that 72 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: is certainly what's going to happen. There is not going 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: to be anything that it holds this league back from 74 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: doing its day to day business. It just might be 75 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: a little bit different or a lot different in the 76 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: case of what we saw with the draft and how 77 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: things materialized and the lessons learned on how teams prepared 78 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: for an upcoming regular season. Yeah, and you know, free agency, 79 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were able to pull off a trade. You know, 80 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: we're able to, I guess, hold the information almost for 81 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: three and a half weeks, and then we were kind 82 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: of worried when it's hop going to take his physically. 83 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: We don't want Bill O'Brien to get cold feet. Avid Johnson, 84 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: how's his physicals? So, but they were able to pull 85 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 1: off free agency and you were able to sign guys 86 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: based on research and negotiating contracts, but you know, not 87 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: a lot of face to face conversations. But again there's 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: a will in the way, and I think the Zoom definitely, 89 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, kind of bridge that gap a little bit. 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: It's the new four letter word in our vernacular, zoom. 91 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: And we all certainly appreciate having technology here to continue 92 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: to give you the coverage that you seek concerning the 93 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. It is a Monday edition of Cardinals Covered 94 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: two presented by Honday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 95 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: And I shared with you Amja earlier today and I 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: woke up and just the suddenness of the fact that 97 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: there is not another game to be played. And you 98 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: experience this every single year because you look forward to 99 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: the regular season and then it becomes a day to 100 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: day adventure a grind, if you will, but you enjoy 101 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: the grind because at the end of each week there's 102 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: a game to be played, and you win, you lose, 103 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: and then you react off of that. And now here 104 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: we are and it just an abrupt stop. We've come 105 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: to a stop sign and the light is still red 106 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: and it's not going to go green until later, much 107 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: later August September. And that is a fact I think 108 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the Bird Gang is feeling because of 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: the anticipation of what we anticipated here of year two 110 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: and how things played out, and then of course what 111 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: happened over the last two weeks San Francisco and the 112 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, and I know people have called it 113 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: a roller coaster, the up and down nature while the 114 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: roller coaster came to a screeching halt on Sunday in 115 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and dare I say it might have gone 116 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: off the rails and an eighteen to seven loss to 117 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: the Rams as the Cardinals and a must win situation, 118 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: win or go home Cardinals MJ Unfortunately our home on 119 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: this Monday and will be until twenty twenty one begins 120 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: visually in several months. Yeah, we talked about it the 121 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: perception of going nine and seven versus eight and eight 122 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: and eight and eight. You're sitting at home now and 123 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: you're wondering what if? What if? And we knew if 124 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: you go nine and seven, you're in the playoffs, and 125 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: you know you look at games that could have won 126 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: or should have won. But that's the NFL, the ebb 127 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: and flow of a season. It was a roller coaster. 128 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: But let's focus on the eight and eight now, because 129 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I think there's two eight and eights. There's an eight 130 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: and eight that you finish a season, and then there's 131 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: eight and eight to where there was progress the numbers reflected. 132 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: But when you're five and two and you're six and 133 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: three and after the bye week you only win three 134 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: out of nine games, that's an issue. And then the 135 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: fact that you had the playoff destiny in your hands 136 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: at the close of the season, not once but twice, 137 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: and you let it slip through against teams that on paper, 138 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: and I'm going to use that phrase again is what 139 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: I used all of last offseason. I'm going to continue 140 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: to use it. On paper. This aeros on a Cardinals 141 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: team better than the San Francisco forty nine ers, better 142 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: than the Los Angeles Rams. Given what the Rams were 143 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: missing on Sunday, that's the caveat here, given what they 144 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: were missing. And yes, I understand the Cardinals were missing 145 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: players as well. And as I mentioned on the NFL 146 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: Kickoff Show with Darren Urban and Kylotguard, I felt good 147 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: offensively going into the weekend and then all of a 148 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: sudden Saturday hit and the realization that you're not going 149 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: to have Christian Kirk, you might not have Larry Fitzgerald, 150 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: which they didn't. Chase Edmonds wasn't going to be one 151 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent, but he toughed it out. You just didn't 152 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: have the full complements of pieces that you needed to 153 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: get that final win. And of course I think maybe 154 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: everything just went away and up in smoke if you will, 155 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: if you will, like that cliche. When Kyle Murray on 156 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: the seventh play of the game got hit, got sacked 157 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: by Morgan Fox, he landed on the right ankle and 158 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: it was rolled up on and Murray we did not 159 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: see him again until the fourteen twenty five mark of 160 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And certainly the Cardinals did start well 161 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: seven to nothing, but maybe we asked or thought too 162 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: much of Chris Streveler and that offense without Kyle the Murray, 163 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald and Christian Kirk Well, I mean you look 164 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: at you know which traveler was in there, and I 165 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: wish they would have been able to run the ball better, 166 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: but they were behind the sticks and I didn't really 167 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: prefer to see him throwing rolling out to his left, 168 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: thrown across his body down the field. But you know 169 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: the pick six and then the safety. So that's nine 170 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: points right there, and you're not going to win many 171 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: games scoring seven points or you know what they did 172 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: in the week before twelve points. So yeah, it's disappointing 173 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: because it's you know, maybe at the midway point of 174 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: the year, Cardinals had the number one offense and we 175 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: didn't focus so much on because it's yardage, you know 176 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: how I feel, you know, how many points are you 177 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: scoring per game? Because the team that scored a lot 178 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: of points this year they are in the postseason. And 179 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: but what I look at, Craig is, you know, we 180 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: can and fans it's fair to question why Brett Hunley 181 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: wasn't the backup, but that question should have taken place 182 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: in August and Katr played a cut from Steve Kime 183 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: and may have been after the first game, and he 184 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: said that Chris Straveler had a really good training camp 185 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, he outplayed Brett Hunley. And I think 186 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: when you look at Straveler, he's got more of a 187 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: skill set like Kyler Murray. He can run a little 188 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: bit more. He can you know, run in the between 189 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: the tackles. I'm not saying Hundley. Now. People are going 190 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: to say, well, he had experience. He backed up Aaron Rodgers. 191 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Unfortunately when he played, they had the handcuffs on. They 192 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to make a mistake. And in Seattle, you know, 193 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: playing behind Russell Wilson never got a chance to play. 194 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: But those are two really Hall of Fame quarterbacks, so 195 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: you think in experience wise, but they made it very 196 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: clear right when the season started that he was a 197 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: third string quarterback. So I don't know why so many 198 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: people were surprised. If you want to bring it up 199 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: in September, that's the decision they made. And Cliff was 200 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: asked about it after the game. Do you have any regrets? None, 201 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: And that's one thing he's been consistent about. So I 202 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: know people aren't happy that Brett Hunting wasn't in there. 203 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: Hundling's numbers weren't great. He came in and did a 204 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: nice job to keep it. You know, usually the start, 205 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback that starts gets a win loss record. But 206 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: his numbers weren't great. He made some plays. I'm not 207 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: going to sit here and downplay it, but they made 208 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: a decision to try to go with a Taysom Hill. 209 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance to see that both on 210 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: the field. At the same time, I think after we 211 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: got to see Straveler, I think he had two or 212 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: three snaps the whole season going in the ES. Maybe 213 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: two is after that, I think the decision was made. 214 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: We're not taking Kyler Murray off the field, and that 215 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: was my biggest issue. You could put him as a receiver, 216 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: but clearly he's your better option. But that was the 217 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: plan all along. And I know fans are upset, but 218 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: if you filed the story, he was the backup quarter 219 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: in every single game. In retrospect, maybe we needed to 220 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: have a better, bigger discussion about the backup quarterback in 221 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: August in September. Yet at the same time, who wants 222 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: to talk about the backup quarterback at the start of 223 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: the season. Because you never focus on the number two 224 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: guy until you need to, and the Cardinals needed to 225 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday in Los Angeles. Yet, I'll go through and 226 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: ask you any fan out there, Okay, who's the backup 227 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: quarterback in Kansas City? You know, who's the backup quarterback 228 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: in Seattle? You don't know. It's not top of mind. Now, 229 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: I will say this, the Dallas Cowboys did what the 230 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: New York Jets did in the offseason as far as 231 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: getting a true backup with experience and an Andy Dalton 232 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: and a Jeff Flacco. I wonder if more teams look 233 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: at that and try to mimic it. Yes, the Cowboys 234 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: didn't make the postseason, and yes the Jets didn't make 235 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: the postseason, but at least there was someone behind QB 236 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: one that perhaps you could rely on in a pinch 237 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: and the other. The offshoot to this is, well, if 238 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: you have a backup quarterback, plane doesn't matter who it is. 239 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: They're a backup for a reason, and the offense is 240 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: already going to take a step back. So yes, Chris 241 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Traveler was thrust into a position that he was not 242 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: ready for. And that's playing a simple You know, you 243 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: don't get as many reps during the week. John Walford 244 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: got all of the reps as a backup. He knew 245 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: he was going to start last Sunday, probably going into 246 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: that game yesterday. But that is not what costs this team. 247 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: The loss on Sunday was the fact that Chris Traveler 248 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: was not on the field. I'll ask you this, MJ. 249 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: If Kyler Murray was completely healthy, he never He'd say 250 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: he got sacked, but he was fine, got up, No 251 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: big deal. He's been sacked a lot this season, not 252 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: nearly as much as year ago, but he has gotten 253 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: sacked one hundred percent. Kyler Murray with a full week 254 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: of practice, he was a full partistipent Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. 255 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: Do the Cardinals do they win? Do they find a 256 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: way to figure it out against that Rams defense? Because 257 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: that was my concern and you shared it. In fact, 258 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: you talked about it all week long. It's not the 259 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense and the Rams offense. It's the Cardinals offense 260 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: against that Rams defense. I think they would have scored 261 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: more points. I don't I don't know if they would 262 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: have won though, I mean, you had a block punt, 263 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean they left points on the field. 264 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: But I do think the game would have been I 265 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: think they would have scored more than seven points. Though, Yes, 266 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: that's block block field goal build there in the fourth quarter, 267 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: that would have pulled the Cardinals to within one possession. 268 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: But you're right, you needed another stop and get on 269 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: the field. You're right, seven points after scoring twelve the 270 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: week prior. It wasn't trending in a great direction for 271 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals to get to the postseason for the first 272 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: time in twenty fifteen. And again there's you know, no 273 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: guarantee that with one hundred percent Kyle Murray, even without 274 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: Fits and Christian Kirk, that you make you get the win. 275 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: I certainly would have loved to see what would have happened, 276 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: and would have felt better going out on my shield, 277 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: so to speak, with our best out there, and unfortunately 278 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals didn't have their best on the field. Yeah, 279 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: I just yeah, I don't know if it had been 280 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: fourteen or seventeen points. I mean attack on the field 281 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: goal again, it was partially blocked, the ball still was 282 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: in the air. But you know, like I said, if 283 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Murray was in there full time, I do think they 284 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: would have scored more points. I don't know if they 285 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: would have won at the end, just based on the 286 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Rams defense pretty much shut the run game down. I 287 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: Hopkins and maybe a couple throws. They really didn't have 288 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: any splash plays. They tried, but they didn't have any 289 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: splash plays. So I just thought when you're dressed in 290 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: four tight ends, we'd see more mass protection. You know, 291 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: they did try to throw the ball to Dan Arnold. 292 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know Max Williams was targeted 293 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: or how to catch, But for the most part, I 294 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: thought they would try to load up at on the 295 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: line and even bring in Josh Jones if he had 296 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: to to kind of protect and get rid of the 297 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: ball quickly. But rushivers have to get separation, and you know, 298 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk wasn't out there. Larry really doesn't get separation, 299 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: but he's savvy enough to find the sticks. So I 300 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: do think they would have been more productive on offense 301 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: if Murray was played the entire game. Don't know if 302 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: they would have won, but it would have been closer. 303 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals had forty nine plays on offense. Their top four plays, 304 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: they had four plays of sixteen or more yards. Three 305 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: of those happened in the fourth quarter with Kyler Murray 306 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: as your quarterback. And yes, the Cardinals, I think when 307 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: one thing is not working with this offense, and that 308 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins, they needed something else. 309 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: They needed an option two. An option two is Kenyan 310 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: Drake and the way he is closing out the regular 311 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: season probably doesn't bode well for him personally, and I 312 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: don't know what it means for his bank account going 313 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: into free agency, but the fact that he was not 314 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: able to get on track and get some yards or 315 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: at least get that Rams defense thinking about trying to 316 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: tackle Kenyan Drake. He only had ten carries. His first touch, 317 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: the first offensive play of the game went for eleven 318 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: yards MJ. He finished with thirty six. Whether that's him, 319 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: whether that's off the offensive line, I don't know. Yes, 320 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: the Rams defense ranked third against the run. But when 321 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: you lose your starting quarterback and you're relying on a backup, 322 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: someone else has to step up their game. And that 323 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: person that I was looking to that didn't need the 324 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: ball thrown to him with Kenyan Drake, yeah, he didn't 325 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: even reach a thousand yards. You've been talking about that 326 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks. He had all purpose, 327 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: and he's normally a guy that can get in the 328 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: end zone, you know. I mean, I think he had 329 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: seven or eighteen touchdowns in twenty games since he joined 330 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, so it's almost one per game, and I 331 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: was hoping to get more out of Chase. He didn't 332 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: practice all week, but I just thought have him on 333 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: the field, you had to defend him. And he's been 334 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: really a good bass catcher, runs good routes, gets open, 335 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: he's kind of shifting the open field. But he was 336 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: playing basically on one leg, so you know, I gave 337 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: him credit for, you know, like you said, gutting it out. 338 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: But they didn't have their A, B or C game 339 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: when it came to their offense, and you know, you 340 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: look at you know, we'll get into it. I just rushing. 341 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: They definitely held off maybe the last three or four games. 342 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: You look at body of work, they're still ranked pretty 343 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: high and rushing their second in touchdowns. The Saints were 344 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: number one and twenty nine. Of course you had Alvin 345 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: kamarage six and one game. Cardinals were second with twenty two. 346 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: Average per carry was around four eight, maybe four to nine. 347 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: But the passing game, they're not in the top ten 348 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 1: in any category, not in one category, and that's an 349 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: issue when really the only thing you really did in 350 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: the offseason on offense was bringing DeAndre Hopkins. You would 351 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: think the passing numbers would be a lot better and 352 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: the consistency would be a lot better. And there's one 353 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: word we're going to use for the entire team. They 354 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: are very inconsistent on offense and a couple a few 355 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: times defense and special teams. Yeah, the consistency offensively is 356 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: something DJ Humphrey's brought up when he addressed the media 357 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: earlier today. He and Buddha Baker the two players selected 358 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: to speak on this. The quote unquote clean out your 359 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: locker day exit interviews a little bit different, but the 360 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: fact that we're not in the locker room and everything 361 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: is virtual. Yet the biggest thing from DJ Humphries was, Yes, 362 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: the consistency weekend and week out. He talked about the 363 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: progress that the team has made in terms of wins 364 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: and losses and even on the offensive side. To your point, overall, 365 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: the numbers look pretty respectable, but how do you finish 366 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: a game? How do you finish a regular season? It's cliche, 367 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: It's not how you start it's how you finish. And 368 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did not finish well two and five after 369 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: a six and three starts and losing back to back 370 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: games within the division, with an opportunity to get to 371 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: the postseason for the first time since twenty fifteen. And 372 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, MJ. That stings. It's gonna hurt for a while. 373 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not quite ready to slam the door yet 374 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: on twenty twenty because this is gonna linger for a 375 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: little bit. And I do not fault any fan at 376 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: all for being upset for being disappointed, being frustrated, or 377 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: being angry on what happened here in twenty twenty, because 378 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: these opportunities are few and far between, especially with a 379 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: young quarterback on a rookie contract. And you want to 380 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: say they wasted this year in terms of that narrative, 381 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: then absolutely, I'll line up right behind you, because year two, 382 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: you needed to take that step to a certain extent. 383 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: They did, but it was not a big enough step 384 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Yeah, and just getting in the postseason, 385 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: the experience for these young players, you know, the Kyler 386 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Murray's and Byron Murphy and you know Boodha Baker. I mean, 387 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: it would have gone a long way. I don't know, 388 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: if they could have won a playoff game, then you 389 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: would have had headed New Orleans or Green Bay. But 390 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: just getting in the playoffs, just to taste the playoffs 391 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: and you can then we go to put a bow 392 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: on the season. It was successful. Now we're having a conversation. Yes, 393 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: they finished eight and eight. It's an improvement, but there's 394 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: still a lot of issues moving forward from a standpoint 395 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: of there's there's holes on this roster and you can't 396 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, make whole soul changes in one year. And 397 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: clearly the Cardinals, you know, they feel like they added 398 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: some free agents and you know, the draft picks, even 399 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: though they didn't have as many as they had in 400 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: the pass given up, you know, the hop trade and 401 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: that will affect him this year. But you know, I 402 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: thought Isaiah Simmons played better as the season went on. 403 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't have the month of December that I 404 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: was hoping. Josh Jones, Evan Weaver, and you know, Benjamin 405 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: didn't play a single snap this year. Weavers on the 406 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: practice squad, you know, Benjamin was on the active roster. 407 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: So hopefully those guys can make a jump next year. 408 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: But I think the Cardinals will will try to ride 409 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds, and I do think they'll draft a running back. 410 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it's going to be in the first couple 411 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: of rounds. And I don't think they'll go out and 412 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: trust a veteran free agent, but I do think Chase 413 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: will be the guy. I don't see the Cardinals pain 414 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: and Drake eight million a year eight point four. It's 415 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: just the shelf life. And I understand why they put 416 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: the tag on him because you know they were concerned 417 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: other teams were going to offer him a three year 418 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: deal about six million a year, probably about eight to 419 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: ten guaranteed. In what he did make games last year, 420 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: he was a big part of what this offense was 421 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: able to do in the second half of the season. 422 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: But I see Chase Emans being the bell cow next 423 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: year and we'll see if he can carry the load. 424 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: I think he's up for the task. My comp on 425 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: him is Trek Cohen. Trek Cohen is on IR this year. 426 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: I was told he's a little bit faster, and he 427 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: got about seventeen and a half million a three year deal, 428 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: and I think that would be feasible again five or 429 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: six a year for a running back who's really hasn't 430 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: peaked or reached his prime yet. So again, I do 431 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: think Chase Evans will have every opportunity to be the 432 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: number one guy in twenty twenty one. It is going 433 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: to be a busy offseason, berg Gang, It always is 434 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: a busy off seasons. So you want to stay up 435 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: to dates. You can do that by downloading the latest 436 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: updates the latest version of the Cardinals mobile app. The 437 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: update features in all new redesign a home screen experience. 438 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: Visitasy Cardinals dot com slash app four more. We continue 439 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: here on this Monday Cardinals Cover two presented by Honday, 440 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arozona Cardinals. The Cardinals eights and 441 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: eights five hundred four and four at home, four and 442 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: four on the road to at least in that area. 443 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: They are certainly consistent and yet it is a jump 444 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: and wins from a year ago. But I just cannot 445 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: get over on the opportunity lost on not being able 446 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: to walk through that door and slam it behind you 447 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: to be one of the seven teams. Now, if this 448 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: was a normal year, yeah, the Cardinals would not have 449 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: been able to get in with nine wins in the 450 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: NFC because you take the top six. Now you're the 451 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins right now, You've got ten wins and you 452 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: didn't get invited. That's kind of what happened. Sometimes sometimes 453 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: it's not win total, it's what year do you get 454 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: that win total? Sometimes eight is enough, sometimes it's not. 455 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes you need nine, ten or eleven, and the Cardinals 456 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: needed just one more to finish in the postseason. The 457 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: magical number for the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty was 458 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: nine and they fall one short. Well, Also, the conference 459 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: records are only six and six. Now, let's throw away. 460 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: The NFC East Rams are nine in three, the Bucks 461 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: eight and four, Seattle nine and three, the Saints ten 462 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: and two, and the Packers ten and two. That's conference records. 463 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: So that's the reason why the Cardinals are on the 464 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: outside looking. And the Bears were six and six, the 465 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: Washington football team five and seven. But you have to 466 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: get conference wins. And yes, they feasted on the NFC 467 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: East this year. That will not be the case next year. 468 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: You could see progress with the Washington football team. We'll 469 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: see when Dak Prescott gets back. Yeah, you could see 470 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: the Giants kind of young team. So in Philadelphia, We'll 471 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: see what happens what they decided to do, but that 472 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: division will be better next year, So you're not going 473 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: to be at a feast up on the NFC East. 474 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: But you know we talked about winning home games, scratching 475 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: out some road wins, winning division games, and then winning 476 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: conference games. You have to do better than six and 477 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: six next year. Well how about just within your own division, 478 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: you have to be better than two and four, And 479 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals certainly can't look at that very good when 480 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: you have to compete against the Rams, the Seahawks and 481 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers forever, and they've all got established 482 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: head coaches and established quarterbacks. We'll see what happens in 483 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Jimmy Garoppolo. But the Cardinals open what they 484 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: win at San Francisco, then they had that primetime game 485 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: at home against the Seahawks and then one but following 486 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: the bye week it went owing four against the division. 487 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: And you cannot have that happen if you hope to 488 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: take that next step. That is why you know you 489 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: keep talking about you know you got a leap frog 490 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: someone within the division, and you thought it was going 491 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: to be the Rams this season. You know it was 492 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: just it was a half step maybe a quarter step forward, 493 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people believe it was 494 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: steps backwards, and I get that. But you have to 495 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: be able to take care of the teams within your 496 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: own division if you hope to move up within the division, 497 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals going two and four, it wasn't going 498 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, you know, the Niners finishing last, they had, 499 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of injuries, they played hard, gown 500 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: the stretch. You end up losing to the Seahawks in 501 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: Week seventeen. But yeah, when you get off to a 502 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: two and holl start, you're thinking, all right, three and 503 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: three and three maybe or four and two. And unfortunately 504 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: the second go around they lost at the Niners, they 505 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: lost twice at the Rams, and then it lost to 506 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. So you know, but when you get off 507 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: to a two and oh start, you're expecting a better 508 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: record inside the division, whether it's home or away. And 509 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: that's why you see all these Thursday night games against 510 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: the division opponents. First of all, short travel, and you're 511 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: familiar with the opponent where you played them, probably in 512 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: the last five weeks, so you're really familiar. And that's 513 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: why the NFL schedules those kind of games, and so 514 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: those are the games you have to have. But just 515 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: think about it. One more conference win slash division win, 516 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: We're having a totally different conversation. They beat the Niners 517 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: or they beat the Rams in the week sixteen seventeen, 518 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: that's a nine win team. I'm not going to get 519 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: crazy and say a ten win team, but nine wins 520 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: with an extra conference win. We're having a different conversation 521 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: today when you look back at twenty twenty, and I 522 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: know it's still fresh, but sometimes it's the best way 523 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: to look back at a regular season when things are 524 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: still fresh and there'll be plenty of time bird Gang 525 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: to look ahead and figure out what needs to be 526 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: done or the evaluation. But because it is still twenty 527 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: four hours removed from this Cardinals team walking off the 528 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: field at so Far Stadium eighteen to seven losers and 529 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: then taking the flight back to Tempe and knowing that 530 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: there is no more football, I mean, they are not 531 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: going to be meeting, they are not going to be practicing, 532 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: there are no more games to be played for the 533 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals here in this twenty twenty regular season into 534 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: the postseason. What is the biggest thing that you will 535 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: remember about this season going forward, or hope that is 536 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: something that you can look back on and say, all right, 537 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: that is what propelled this team, or maybe it's maybe 538 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: it's the compleet opposite. This can't happen again moving forward. 539 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: If the Cardinals want to be a playoff team. Missed opportunities. 540 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean they go back and again. You can do 541 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: this every year. I'm nobody's going sixteen to No. I 542 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: didn't think they would win double dis you win toll 543 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: this year. I thought seven and nine wins. But when 544 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: you go back and look, go back to the Drake game, 545 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: the Carolina game, the Patriots game, those games really stick 546 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: out to me. You know. I give the Rams credit. 547 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: They beat him thirty eight twenty eight, shouldn't have lost 548 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: it to the Niners, and they should have been more 549 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: competitive in the Rams game. But again, missed opportunities. And 550 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: the whost season, they were inconsistent. One week it was 551 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: the offense, the next week it was the defense, some 552 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: weeks it was both, and then special teams had their 553 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: hand in a pile. So I just think missed opportunities 554 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: winnable games. They just thought they had a step on 555 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: the field. That's the impression I got from Kyler Murray, 556 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: even though they came off a loss when they went 557 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: to Carolina new coaching staff, a college defensive coordinator Teddy 558 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Bridgewater hadn't scored a rushing touchdown on years and he 559 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: runs off a twenty five yard or missed tackles in 560 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: the open field. So just missed opportunities and very inconsistent. 561 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to take from this season now. 562 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: Again eight and eight, there was progress, but it isn't enough. 563 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: Well said on that last part as far as the 564 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: progress that was made on and off the field, not 565 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: enough in year two. I like that assessments and Rod 566 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Frederickson on Cardinal Talk use the term audits, and I 567 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: know we're getting close to tax season. People don't like 568 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: that word, but I thought it was a great adjective 569 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: to use as far as what now needs to happen 570 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: top to bottom with this organization when it comes to players, staff, coaches, 571 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: executives to put a team that we all can be 572 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: proud of and start celebrating in the month of January 573 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: like we all did once upon a time when Carson 574 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Palmer was the quarterback and Bruce Arians was the head coach. Yeah, 575 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean usually I would say twenty teams that are 576 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: doing self evaluations. Today it's a team now because we 577 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: know four teams make the playoffs, so there's eighteen teams 578 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: and whether you won one game or two games, likely 579 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: you can have a new GM and a coach. So 580 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: they all should be doing self evaluation. They should do 581 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: self of evaluation on the staff, and they should do 582 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: self evaluation on the players. And then then they have 583 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: to go deep, dive a little bit deeper to where 584 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: are the holes on this football team. Again, you can't 585 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: go out and just spend money like a drunken sailor. 586 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: You have to you have to make sure you do 587 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: your homework and considering where the cap is. So there's 588 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: a lot of heavy lifting that's going to take place. 589 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: But self evaluation is the first thing they have to do. 590 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: They have to be honest with their selves. Where are 591 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: we at? Are we two players away? Because again it 592 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: would have been difficult to win a playoff game, but 593 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: just to be in that conversation to where you go 594 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: into the officeas and say we can be better next year. 595 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: That's the plan and that's the hope. But they have 596 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: to be honest with themselves. And you know, we don't 597 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: know who's under contract when the Cardinals announced the coach 598 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: usually coordinate get three years and position coaches get two years. 599 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: And we know that. You know, guys like Steve Hyden 600 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: and David Rye and even Sean Coogler and some of 601 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: the assistants you know they probably got will get re 602 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: up just because they want to keep some stability. Now, 603 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: Tom Clements was brought in here. He coached in Green Bay. 604 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: He coached with Brett fav and Aaron Rodgers. But we 605 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: know Cliff. He's got his hands all over the offense. 606 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: I know people say they should bringing a coordinator close 607 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: not giving up play callings. Let's make that very clear 608 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: if you want to have her another sounding board. I 609 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: think they got a good staff on offense. They got youth, 610 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: and they got experienced. And we don't talk about James 611 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: Saxon enough. He's experienced. He's coach in Pittsburgh with good 612 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: back there. He's in Minnesota with Adrian Peterson when he 613 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: was there. Steve Hyman's an up and comer. We know 614 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: David Rise a really smart guy. And you could see 615 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Cliffs talking to him on the sidelines when he sees 616 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: so I like the offensive staff. They could bring in 617 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: somebody as an assistant, a senior assistant, but again, they 618 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: all there's a collection, there's a collaborative effort when it 619 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: comes to the game playing Coogler, Hyden and Sexy, and 620 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: then Cliff has to filter through it with the quarterback. 621 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: So I don't think there's gonna be a ton of changes, 622 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: but you never know. Some guys get promotions, some guys 623 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: could retire. But that's the only thing I look at. 624 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: And on defense, I like, I like the defensive staff. 625 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: I really do their teachers, their coaches. You know, you 626 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: look at the inside and outside linebackers coach, and the 627 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: D line coach, and the secondary I like their staff. 628 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: I like Jeff Rogers. I mean, I like their training staff. 629 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: I like Again, it's about getting better players. They need 630 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: better players, and they need players to play more consistently 631 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: over the course of the years. So we're not having 632 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: this eight and eight conversation. Asked about his coaching staff 633 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: Kingsbury earlier today. Quote, we're still evaluating a lot of things. 634 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: End quote. There was not much to come out of 635 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: Kingsbury's postseason media availability. He was only spoke for less 636 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: than nine minutes. The one note that the Bird Gang 637 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: does need to know about, and I think this is 638 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: good news, and that the fact is that Kingsbury does 639 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: not believe Kyle the Murray needs surgery this offseason on 640 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: that ankle injury, which Kingsbury called pretty significant after the 641 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: loss to the Rams. He had no further details today 642 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: on Murray or any other players as far as their health. 643 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: And I know, bird Gang, You've got a lot of 644 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: questions that want to be answered. And here we are 645 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: on January fourth, and well, some of these questions just 646 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: can't be answered today. They can't be answered tomorrow, They 647 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: can't be answered next week, next month. It is going 648 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: to be a long offseason. And that is what happens 649 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: when you don't make the postseason. And it's unfortunate because 650 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: you're right, MJ. Going back to what you said, the 651 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: difference the way this season would have been looked at 652 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: and looked upon nine and six versus eight and eight. 653 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: And now you start nitpicking and looking at everything, you 654 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: turn over every rock as opposed to nine and six, 655 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, you got to that next level. Cardinals, still 656 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: they keep hitting that ceiling and now how do you 657 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: bust through it? And that is what is first and 658 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: foremost on the general manager and the head coach and 659 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: everyone associated with the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, and you know 660 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: they know what they I'm sure you know it sound 661 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: like you're gonna wake up today and go, oh, we 662 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: gotta do this throughout the season. You know, you got 663 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: a scouting department, and then you got your personnel department, 664 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: and then you got your general manager and so and 665 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: again they're all going to be on the same page. 666 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: It's just and then the coaches at some point they'll say, 667 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: this is the type of player we want, and to 668 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: give him a wish list, and then ultimately they're going 669 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: to decide is that a draft pick or a free 670 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: agent acquisition? You know, is he a plug and play 671 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: guy from day one? So there's a lot of moving 672 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: parts here. But I think again, all eighteen teams are 673 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: doing a self evaluation and they should be is honest 674 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: with each other. Don't worry about hurting any buddy's feelings 675 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: because the only way you're going to get better is 676 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: you have to a minute address it and then try 677 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: to you know, check those boxes. And it's not going 678 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: to happen overnight. I keep saying, it's not a quick fix, 679 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: but you have to be better next year, including this 680 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: season coming up. Subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 681 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: Google Podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite shows 682 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: on the go like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rage, 683 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report, and of course this show 684 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com slash podcast 685 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: for more information. All right, so you know last night 686 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: Brinson Buckner tweeted something out the defensive line coach, and 687 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: then he backtracked a little bit. But let's talk about 688 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: maybe the elephant in the room is Larry Fitzgerald, who uh, 689 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: all right, so Brinson or tweets out, you know about Larry, 690 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: whether he decides to retire this year or whatever. But 691 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: Cliff said right now, he spoke to him this morning 692 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: and he still thinks he's going to take some time. 693 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Obviously, he had a conversation 694 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: with Larry, and I was on Channel twelve last night, 695 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinal's flagship for the preseason, and obviously Cardinals shows 696 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: out throughout the season. And then asked me, you know, 697 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: and what I told him, is it is very similar 698 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: to where I signed the postgame show. Is It's not 699 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: about numbers anymore for Larry Fitzgerald. He's achieved everything he 700 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: possibly can besides adding to his current numbers. I think 701 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: it would have been really a cherry on the Sunday 702 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: if they would have got to the postseason, whether it 703 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: was one game or not. So I do think Larry 704 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: is definitely considering retirement, just because it has nothing to 705 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: do with the team coming back next year. He played 706 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: for Steve Willips, he played for Cliff Kingsbury. He likes 707 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: his staff and Larry's always told me, you know, his 708 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: second career is going to be better than his first, 709 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: which is hard to imagine. But I'd never doubt that guy. 710 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: But I just think it's time for him to kind of. 711 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he enjoyed this year from a 712 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: standpoint of, you know, not so much to COVID because 713 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: everyone had to deal with it, but you know, missing 714 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: a couple of games, not being targeted, kind of being 715 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: phased out. You know, people don't want to say that, 716 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: but there's other options and targets and I get it. 717 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he enjoyed the season. I 718 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: know he enjoys the process, he enjoys the camaraderies, and 719 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: he enjoys playing on game base. And I don't know 720 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: if that was the case based on the losses and 721 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: the totality of him not being targeted again. He's never 722 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: going to complain about numbers. He's about the w but 723 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: it would be really important for this team to make 724 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs, so I don't I don't know when he's 725 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: going to make his decision, but it wouldn't surprise me 726 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: if he decided to hang it up, because I think 727 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: he's at pe when it comes to his NFL career. 728 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: Quoting Kingsbury about Fitzgerald, he's got a lot to think about, 729 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: and then he later added, we want him back. Personally, 730 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: I would want to see number eleven back as well, 731 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: but that is something that is, as they say, out 732 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: of our hands, and we just wait for the announcement 733 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: to come, and probably sooner rather than later, but who 734 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: knows With Larry Fitzgerald. Before we wrap up this Monday 735 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals cover two presented by Honday, proud partner 736 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, I'll give you your final thoughts 737 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: mgen what you want to say, and then, of course 738 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of time to really dive in 739 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: to this offseason, but I do want to let everyone know. One, 740 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: we do know a couple of things with respects to 741 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: moving forward. That is one, the Cardinals will have the 742 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: sixteenth pick in the upcoming NFL Draft. Yes, they can 743 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: target a lot of different positions. We also know the 744 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: schedule in terms of opponents. Yes, the NFC West home 745 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: and away. The Cardinals will also face teams in the 746 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: NFC North the AFC South. They will have the third 747 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: place team out of the NFC East that would be 748 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and the third place team out of 749 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: the NFC South that would be the Carolina Panthers. Because 750 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals finished in third place and the NFC West 751 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: is matching up with the East and South with regard 752 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty one schedule, and then the course, 753 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: the elephant in the room as far as this seventeenth 754 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: game that everyone keeps reporting but nothing has become official. 755 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: If there is a seventeenth game, according to reports, the 756 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals would play Cleveland because in that scenario, the NFC 757 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: West would match up with the AFC North, the likely 758 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: placed teams Cardinals third, Cleveland third in the AFC North. 759 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: So that is what we know about the schedule. And 760 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: of course if you want to complete rundown, go to 761 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: Acy Cardinals dot com. Darren Urban's got a perfect ride up. 762 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: With regard to the opponents, we know who and we 763 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: do know where. We know who and where, we just 764 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: don't know when. Yeah, and that's always interesting because we 765 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: talk about you know, home opener, division games, national games. 766 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: Who are you finishing out in the month of December. 767 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: So that's all factors to where. You know, you can 768 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: try to dictate the schedule, but we know it's kind 769 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: of miscellaneous or to kind of project wind totals, but 770 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: you know, you get an idea who you're facing and 771 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: obviously injuries to bottom line it. I know Cardinal fans 772 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: are disappointed today. I can tell you everyone in the 773 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: organizations disappointed, frustrated. They feel like they should still be 774 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: playing in the postseason. It didn't happen. But I'm telling 775 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: you it's part of the process and for people, and 776 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: you have your right to your opinions to say that 777 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: they need to blow this up and start over again. 778 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: That's not how you win the NFL. Look at the 779 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs, and you can make exceptions to 780 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera and maybe mant look because they've only been 781 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: there one or two years. But look at the head 782 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: coaches and the quarterbacks that are in the playoffs. That's 783 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: where the Cardinals want to beat. You know, you get 784 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: his pencil and Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll every year, 785 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees. He's going to 786 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: retire after this year. He's got a contract with NBC. 787 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll turn it over to Tyson Hiller Jamis Winston. 788 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: But they've been consistent with Sean Payton. You know, you 789 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: look at Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. You look at 790 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Sean McDermott, Brian Dawell the offensive coordinator. 791 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: You look at the Steelers, so he had a head 792 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: stability and with the head coach and the quarterback and 793 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you know you've got a defensive mine. A head 794 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: coach like Sean McDermott, but he puts a lot on 795 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: Brian Dabel's plate. Could get Josh Alan going. He's been 796 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: in his third year, so um to start over that 797 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: would be the worst thing you can do. They already 798 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: admitted a mistake Aaron Steve Wilkes and drafting Josh McCown. 799 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Josh Rosen So I know we live in 800 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: a microwave society. We want instant results. I'm not saying 801 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: to be patient, because you've been patient since twenty fifteen, 802 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: but to start over again, that doesn't make any sense. 803 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Stability means something. And on that note, 804 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals 805 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: Covered two, presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 806 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Momndro 807 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: or Mike Jarecki. I'm Greg Riel Loup. We'll talk to 808 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: you next time they're on Cardinals Cover two.