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That is 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.879 w D the number five and the number zero at 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.239 Adam and Eve dot com. Don't forget to use our 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:49.599 code and let's get on with the show. Hi, Hi, 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.720 I can do it sometimes, Horrible Decisions. My name is 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.200 Wheezy and it's your girl Mandy. A K A bit. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.440 That's all I'm gonna for now, because y'all, motherfucker's we're 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.440 actually gonna talk about it for the kick of the week. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.360 I'm so sick of Like even when I posted the 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.200 guy that everyone apparently just keeps bringing up, everyone is 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.600 assuming that now every guy I deal with I PEG 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.319 and I'm like, what, but that's not the case. I mean, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.480 it's on your own fault. But I mean I like 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.480 to do it. I'm into it. So for the kick 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:24.840 of the week is going to be very interesting how 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.200 we're gonna talk about that. I want to see a 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.400 little preface. Um, I'm sure you know from the title 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.400 what we're gonna talk about in this episode. And I 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.039 want to apologize for the previous episode we had. We 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:39.959 brought someone on that had HIV, and honestly, I think that, Um, 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.240 I can only speak for myself. Sometimes I don't really 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.320 consider the reach of our podcast and like how wrong 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.920 Google can be and I know how dumb that is. Now, 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.400 So the two ladies that are sitting in front of us, 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.120 um are you know, came with a bunch of papers, 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:59.480 and it makes me feel like I think we expected 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.080 him to have a lot of answers, which and that 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.400 was the thing too, so for him, he was born 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.559 with i V. So I feel like that it also 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.240 delved into kind of a different experience from someone who 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.480 may have lived I don't want to say a normal life, 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.079 but maybe a life without the disease. And then and 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.120 then became infected infective, so like he just knew how 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.840 to I guess take care of it. Right He's like okay, 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.800 and he's like my mama had Like you know, it 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.840 was it was definitely that it's normalized because you know, 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.720 it is something that is normal. You know, like you 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.120 if you are infective with HIV, you can live a 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.239 normal life. Um. But like you know, him not knowing 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.960 the more clinical sides of things right well, And I 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.240 think that was even my interest in interviewing him because 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.200 I didn't with a sex positive podcast, Like I didn't 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.920 want to, you know, maybe have so much of an 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.600 episode where it's like, yeah, if you have sex, you're 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.200 gonna catch HIV and die and then AIDS and whatever 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.839 like so I didn't even want to have that kind 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.240 of relationship. So anyways, we're sitting here talking guys. We 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.480 are joined today with two special guests. Um, we have 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:09.079 Janelle and Olmo tail boom almost Tyle. We have almost 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.519 like bitch, I got this. Um we're gonna call her omo, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:16.640 but we got Amo Janelle Ohm are you Homo? Yeah? 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.800 I mean Omo, are you Homo? Because she was talking 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:24.040 about a girl was queer that would be Twitter name 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:34.720 that you can find me on Twitter. Pres momobile. Yeah 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.720 gotta we gotta your name girl, um and so, I 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.720 guess go ahead and introduce yourselves to our audience. I'm 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.640 Janelle A k A. I'm going half of the Nigeria Nightmares. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.160 We call each other. That's what everyone That's what everyone 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.560 knows each other as well. That's what everyone knows us 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.560 at um as at work. Okay, where you got? Were 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.960 you born in Nigeria? No, I'm an half again, she's 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.960 she's full of mettri you Africa. Yeah, I love that 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.880 now that I spent in that too. But I everywhere Now, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.240 I'm like just said, you know, I've never been there, 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.640 but I am okay, you're I've been there. It was 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:17.160 interesting I heard that, yes, um so I say, um 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:22.800 like parting on Victoria Island the Lucky Chevy um and Yeah, 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.280 it was an interesting experience. None, I'll say the least. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.440 I mean, I'm hoping that maybe over the years they 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.720 do maybe allow more people to experience it. Basically, it's 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.520 one of those countries where you do have to be invited. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.200 So because I traveled so much, I wanted some sort 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.719 of tourist fill or maybe to see if we can go, like, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.599 let's do a tour, bitch. No they like everyone says 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.520 go to Ghana first, to go to South Africa. Then yeah, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.160 so I did. I did. So you have to go 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.720 if you like, know someone that has family, Like I 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.599 really want to go with my friends and have like 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.160 a crazy legas like turn up experience. Um, but I'm 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.719 only gonna be able to do that because you know, 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.440 I have a family, because you have a family that 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.160 lived there. So yeah, so I'm excited. Um, what do 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.080 you guys do? I guess go ahead and let our 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.240 let our audience know what you guys doing while y'all 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.120 are you okay? So, um, we're both we both work 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.599 for the Ryan Health Network. UM. I work at the 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:21.960 Lower east Side location and yeah, yes we're on UM 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.400 it's an alphabet city. Were on East Third in between 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.560 Avenue C and D and UM. Our titles like we're 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.800 sexual health educators. So we do HIV testing in like 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.599 at the center and also in the community. Like there's 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.560 a huge mobile van that I have to drive in 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.080 the summer, like we can test all ye and the 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.600 so the ones that are just like parked on the 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.760 streets and you walk in and get sold. Yeah, we'll 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.800 go to west Forth or Um. We're eld s Tompkins 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.279 Square Park. Have you ever been tested in the I have. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.360 They used to also bring them to our school. But 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:57.000 I'm from Florida, but not testing really No, they've done well. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.360 I mean I say band goes to like Queen's College. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:04.080 Yeah they yeah, I know the yeah so also as well. Yeah, 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.840 I did it at a music festival once, like so 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.640 funny story. When I did it, the friends that I 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.920 were with like, bitch, if you have it, it's you, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.120 we gonna stay here, right. We tried to get us 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.240 to go to afrop so we could already be in 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:23.039 Africa trying to make a word. Right. Let me see 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.920 when I did it? Right. So I'm waiting for the 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.560 results like ten minutes and the guy next to me 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.560 keeps talking like, yeah, so you're from Florida. That's great 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.400 like where I'm like sure, I mean yeah, like that 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.560 twenty minutes is like it could be really right. It's scary. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.479 Is like you literally sit there and think of all 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.880 types of like people that everyone's always asking how do 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.280 you read the test and to see and there their 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:47.840 lines and I'm like I'm not telling you how to 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.200 read the test because I don't want you to like 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.400 freak out it's bad. And then when I got off 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.719 the bus and was confirmed and I have HIV, I 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.240 carried that paper around and was like, fucking rap, right, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.600 what's up? You got yours? Right? I was people taking 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.120 pictures of their results after like sending him to social media. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:08.400 That's what instagram on Instagram. I'm cleared. I mean yeah, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.920 because we give letters, because it's like, yeah, your partner 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.280 for receipts, because anyone could just say, like, oh, I 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.160 want to talk about UM, I want to make sure 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.960 you remind me for later, like the conversation when you 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.560 do have it in a you're in a mobile band. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:27.360 You gotta wait girls. I like that question. So we're 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:28.840 gonna go ahead and start off kind of like how 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.920 we did our episode UM with the individual who did 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.360 have HIV, and this was, oh my god, what episode 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.560 twenty six it was. It was a while back. It 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.400 was in the in the short beginning of Horrible Decisions. 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.480 So I wanted to maybe start off this would be 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.720 our icebreaker for this episode. I wanted to kind of 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:50.320 debunk some of the myths associated with HIV, and one 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.960 that I find to be probably the most interesting, which 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.200 is why I always think I could catch it. I 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.760 used to think, damn, I swallow come ye, so I 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:04.040 had swallow it. No, and then apparently you can't catch it. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.480 So what he said, what he said was correct that like, um, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.080 that your stomach acids and the enzymes in there do 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.520 like get rid of the virus, so it's hard to 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.160 you're not gonna get it once it's in your digestive system. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.000 But it is true that like if you have a 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.760 cut in your mouth and you swallow, seeming there is 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.080 a possible chance that you can't, but like you said 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.520 on the show, like it's like really rare, like one 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.480 in one in ten thou So I mean there's a 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.680 there's a chance, but it's not like super likely, Okay, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.480 So that's that's good to know. It's not considered high risk. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.959 And I hate um talking about different types of sex 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.680 in terms of risk because I think that that kind 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.880 of adds a stigma to certain types of sex. You know, 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:45.840 like you know a lot of people it's easy to 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:51.200 get HIV through anal sex, so there's anal tears. So 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:57.120 that's why I appreciate it with gay and associate a 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.240 lot of us women. I mean, we the only like 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.960 the tip, but it's so anal sex. It's nothing like 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.720 I would love more dick. I just can't even with 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.280 a lot of loop dude. I'm like, it's a different 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.800 way around with a tail out your ask, don't you. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:16.439 But they're tell those like there's a horse when they're slimmer, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.800 I can take it with the girth of like a 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.360 real dick. I can't. I could do the plugs. I 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.600 could do the little things, maybe a smaller dick naked, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.400 but like a skinny pencil dick. Maybe not a pencil 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:34.520 dick pencil. They look like a vibrator, they really do. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.640 Oh you don't do those little ones? Yeah, like the 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.280 ones that started like a triangle. And I can't. I 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.520 can't believe you bought Angela but plugs for her birthday. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:47.360 Why would I? That's brand I mean cutter a vibrator. Yeah, oh, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:52.800 I guess I'm from Horrible Decisions. You have a podcast 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.320 called lip service. I can't get you butt plug. I 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.160 bought her the four gift card. Well that was classy. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.840 I mean, yeah, A don't ask what wear makeup? Some 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.720 of those beauty blenders look like plugs. They do a 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.440 lot of the duty blunders look like they fucking do. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.480 I love the shape of the beauty blender and every 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:11.680 time I look at it, because I have a lot 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.240 of cute ones, my friend sends them to me and 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.760 I'm like, cute plugs. I can't and do you want 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.280 to ugly but plug? I don't be butt plugging unless 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.920 it's with a dick. Well, then they don't plug my dick. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.160 Shut up. So another one of the myths that I 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.760 wanted to talk about, especially coming from Florida and us 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.120 having a whole bunch of goddamn bugs. Um I did 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.359 at one point used to think that if a mosquito 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.560 bit someone with HIV and then came and bait me 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.840 not shortly long after, that maybe there could be some 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.400 sort of transmission of the virus that way. That is 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.480 also a myth. Correct, that's a myth. That's not true 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.959 because HIV needs to it's a whole cell to live 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.400 in to survive, so like it can only survive in 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.120 c D four s. House are like the human cell. 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.600 So like, you know, even if a mosquito bites you, 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.120 even if if they get the animals can't contract they 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.920 can't get HIV, so, like there are different types of 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.320 immuno deficiency viruses that other animals can get, Like there's 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.360 s I V f I V, which is feline cats, 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.400 Like you know animalst can get s T I S. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.599 I don't know why, like last week I decided to 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.600 google that. But wait, wait, there's sexually transmitted diseases for animals, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.800 which brought that up on the evolution episodes we've been 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:35.080 talking about. I don't know what I would say. I 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.000 want to ask both of you what is one of 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.600 the myths that you hear the most often and what 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.360 is the answer to it? Like, what is what is 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.000 one of the things that you hear the most regarding HIV? UM? 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.319 Right off the top, UM, there's a shelter across the 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.720 street from our health center, women shelter and UM, so 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.079 obviously it's a lot of women living in in a 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.520 general space. And then a lot of them are worried that, Um, 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.240 if someone has period blood on the toilet and they 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.760 sit on it, are they going to get HIV? I 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.840 don't know, Like I've heard a lot, Okay, but that's false, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.240 Like you're not going to be able to contract from 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.200 that way? Because also by that point it's it's airborne, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:19.920 so it's hit the air and like it's like getting pregnant, right, 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.560 what do you mean? They're basically saying, like you can, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.679 because in order for to survive, it needs to be 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.720 inside of a south which is the same like when 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.840 girls like the turkey based thing is a is a myth, right, 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:41.319 like you can turkey base, But I'm saying turkey basing 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.680 is a total fucking thing that people do once they 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.240 collect the sperm, right, and you can do it with 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.160 your partner if you're lesbian or whatever. What I'm talking 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.560 about is men thinking like you throw your fucking condom 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.839 in the trash can, and like a girl's gonna like 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.880 save it and try to pregnant later. So that's what 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.920 I was referring to, was theaing out of the condom. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:05.120 I mean, if it's already terribly if you get the 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.200 condom as soon as then put it into the trash 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.960 and you freeze that. So so say, I guess that's 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.719 where I would have that same question with HIV. Is 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.480 there a time frame? If you're telling me there's a 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.240 time frame with sperm and I'm thinking it's the same 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.280 airborne rules. Is there a time frame where technically you 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.599 could by the period wood if you said on the 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.439 seat and you had to open sort like, I know, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.000 there's a whole lot that goes into it. It can 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.040 just touch you on your skin and then now you right, 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:37.839 you need to have an open on your butt or whatever, 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.480 you know what I mean. Like, there's just so many 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.160 factors that's just not something that I would be concerned about. Okay. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.560 And then what's one of the myths that you hear 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.760 the most? I mean, I think I don't think I 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.480 hear like a lot of myths about HIV itself. Besides 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.800 you know the regulars like oh you can get it 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.280 from kissing or saliva or whatever, which is false. You 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.480 can't get it that way. But I think one of 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.920 the biggestness that I encounter when I test people is 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.199 at you know, I always ask, oh, like, um, do 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:04.800 you want to get an HIV test today? And a 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.240 woman you know, in her fifties will be like, oh, no, baby, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:08.880 I don't need one of those. And I'm like, why 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.959 do you think that you need one? And she's like, oh, well, 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.040 you know, I've been married for such and such so 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.880 many years and It's like the number of patients that 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.720 I have who are women who have gotten infected by 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.320 their partners who you know didn't know that they've been 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.120 infected for years because you know, they never thought to 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.040 get tested. It's like, you know, you you don't know, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.160 and every's everyone's responsibility to be getting tested regularly at 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:37.680 least once a year for being tested. So, um, if 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.640 you're in a monogamous relationship, try like you need to 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.280 at least go once and truly monogamous because you know, 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:48.720 sometimes you're where we go one way monogamous but you 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.560 don't know what your partner is doing. But ideally, just um, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.080 like definitely go once a year and then if you 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:55.840 can go twice a year, and then if you have 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.680 multiple partners, try to go every three months and years 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.200 with out like getting tested and not knowing you have it. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.640 Like I guess where I'm kind of confused is like 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.520 you know, we assume the second you get it and 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.080 you find out you have it, you've got to jump 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.920 on this and take care of it. I mean, yeah, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.040 how could it be years? Like how does it live 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.000 in your body? What kind of effects doesn't have while 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.440 you're not getting treated for years so I mean, okay, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.240 So in the first two weeks, so like the first 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.280 ten to fourteen days after you've been infected with HIV, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.720 so the virus enters your body, a lot of people 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.360 experience symptoms of what's known as acute HIV. So that's 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:35.600 the time when the acute try. Right, So the HIV 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.360 virus is multiplying, dividing in your body, um, and you're 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.440 starting to have a lot of like immunological symptoms, so 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.600 like you know, you might have inflammation, and a lot 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.360 of people describe these symptoms as like flu, Like so 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.760 you know you're gonna you know the symptoms of the flu. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:54.320 You don't and we in one a time A bitch 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:59.320 got signed every time. My goddamn. But this is why 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.200 it's actually a really good reason to bring it up now, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.320 because like because right it is the wintertime, a lot 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.080 of people are getting the flute and they might have 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.200 these symptoms and think, oh, well, it's nothing, but it's 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.040 like if you have these symptoms and ten to fourteen 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.480 days ago you had unprotected sex with someone whose status 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:19.400 you don't know it, and we're not gonna go get 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.840 We're not trying to scare anyone, So I need to gain. Sorry, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.960 so this is um, I guess this is gonna go 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.280 ahead and segue us into ar Vanilla ship. If you're 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.040 listening UM to this episode. One of the reasons why 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.080 I definitely chose to do this hit up Janelle even 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.640 though Janelle but hanns eight t y'all and she saw 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.520 me and do say pelluts. It was like, Hi, ma 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.440 up email and I knew that may you I'm drunk. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.920 I'm like, yeah, well, I know she didn't think I 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:50.800 was going I'll say girl, yeah, d n me girl, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.160 I'm gonna bring you all. Yeah. You know some people 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.720 crazy no, yeah, but she because y'all came at least 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.280 with a nice email. Your email is very professional. And 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.000 I was like, oh, yeah, well you be like, yo, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.440 I got songs about sex. You're gonna have me on 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.600 to their own ship and be like hello Cloud Like hey, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:16.560 I didn't know, No, we're not. That's my response. Sorry. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.240 Um so yeah, so Joannelle saw me at say Flues 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:20.480 and I was like, girl, We're gonna bring you on. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.600 But one of the reasons why I definitely wanted to 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.440 have this UM I guess conversation. As you guys know, 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.280 I probably spent the last month, UM every weekend in Atlanta, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.600 UM for and I also used to live there, and 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.600 so there is now the CDC has went ahead and 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:43.280 put that Atlanta is now in an HIV epidemic. Um 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.879 as far as they are now actually comparing Atlanta to 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.960 third world countries, I didn't want to go ahead and 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.159 say I put here it says that downtown Atlanta is 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.680 as bad as Zimbabwe or Harrera or Durban, said Dr 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.600 Carlos del Rio Court, director of Emery University Center for 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.040 AIDS Research. Another thing that I also saw was a 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:08.280 recent study released by the CDC shows that wife shows 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.280 why funding is still critical. If you live in the southeast, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.760 you're more likely to be diagnosed with HIV than any 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.480 other part of the country, and in Georgia the risk 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:22.320 of diagnosis leaps to one in fifty one UM. And 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.320 so I definitely wanted to bring this to the forefront 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.879 because Atlanta is a city I hold so dear in 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.560 my heart and I do be fucking when I be 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:36.080 in town. So I guess I'll stay home. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.520 so we we We do have again our live show 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:44.080 on February in Atlanta. But it's crazy to me make 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.640 out and you can have sex with a condom on yeah, 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.960 which I ain't worried about it. I ain't really work 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:56.359 third world country in Atlanta. Yeah, that's that's that's a lot. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.840 So I kind of wanted to to bring this to 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.680 you guys. You guys do a lot out of um. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.320 Y'all have paperwork. God damn. So stats are on. So 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.960 can we go ahead and maybe delve into the epidemic 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.560 that's happening in Atlanta, specifically in the African American community. 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.760 And I do want to also focus that this is 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:20.200 not only men ladies. This has it's it's not gender specific. 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.159 This is for men and women. Of course, men um 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.000 do hold a higher risk because like we mentioned earlier 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.639 with the anal sex um. But like I do want 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.120 to share with you guys. Unfortunately, and and I hate 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:36.240 to discuss it, but there is a large download community 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.440 in Atlanta, which is why women now face these same 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.159 risks because the men that you are dealing with may 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.480 or may not be open to letting you know that 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.600 they have partners that are of the same sex. So 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.879 if you guys, can I mean, if we say that, 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.880 then that's just kind of saying like all the gays 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.120 are having it in Atlanta. I know that, but that's 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:02.280 not definitely stick mu right, because that's why I said it. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.119 I just feel like it's always so victim blame me 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.720 by like you know what I mean. I just I 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.600 think that That's why I worded it the way I did. 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.800 I thought I did a fine job with Unfortunately, we 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.560 do have men that are open to letting us know 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.840 that they deal with other men, because unfortunately we shame 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.159 them for it. But like I was telling um Olmo 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:23.359 in the in the lobby, prep was something that I 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.639 was considering at one point because I do deal with 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.520 men who have openly admitted that they have experimented or 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.520 dealt with other men. And so to me, it's not 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.520 victim blame me at all, but me and and those 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.920 men have had those type of conversations as well. So 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.200 if we can delve into maybe some of the stats 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.159 in Atlanta that you know, or what's going on in 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:46.399 Atlanta as to why this epidemic is happening, I mean, 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.680 so like as you said, like it's disproportionately affecting communities 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.480 of color. Um, so you know, black and brown people's 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.600 but you know, in Atlanta specifically, it's obviously more African 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.280 American UM. And you know when you think when you 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.200 think about the age to be epidemic and how it 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.840 works in the country, you know, it impacts people based 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.480 on race and socio economic status because then you can't 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.760 have access to healthcare. UM. But then things like you mentioned, 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.040 like homophobia and like stigma also are associated with that 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.960