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Speaker 1: I can do it sometimes, Horrible Decisions. My name is

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Speaker 1: Wheezy and it's your girl Mandy. A K A bit.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna for now, because y'all, motherfucker's we're

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Speaker 1: actually gonna talk about it for the kick of the week.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sick of Like even when I posted the

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Speaker 1: guy that everyone apparently just keeps bringing up, everyone is

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Speaker 1: assuming that now every guy I deal with I PEG

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, what, but that's not the case. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's on your own fault. But I mean I like

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Speaker 1: to do it. I'm into it. So for the kick

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Speaker 1: of the week is going to be very interesting how

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that. I want to see a

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Speaker 1: little preface. Um, I'm sure you know from the title

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about in this episode. And I

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Speaker 1: want to apologize for the previous episode we had. We

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Speaker 1: brought someone on that had HIV, and honestly, I think that, Um,

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Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself. Sometimes I don't really

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Speaker 1: consider the reach of our podcast and like how wrong

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Speaker 1: Google can be and I know how dumb that is. Now,

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Speaker 1: So the two ladies that are sitting in front of us,

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Speaker 1: um are you know, came with a bunch of papers,

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Speaker 1: and it makes me feel like I think we expected

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Speaker 1: him to have a lot of answers, which and that

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Speaker 1: delved into kind of a different experience from someone who

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Speaker 1: may have lived I don't want to say a normal life,

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Speaker 1: but maybe a life without the disease. And then and

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Speaker 1: then became infected infective, so like he just knew how

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Speaker 1: to I guess take care of it. Right He's like okay,

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Speaker 1: and he's like my mama had Like you know, it

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Speaker 1: was it was definitely that it's normalized because you know,

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Speaker 1: it is something that is normal. You know, like you

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Speaker 1: if you are infective with HIV, you can live a

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Speaker 1: normal life. Um. But like you know, him not knowing

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Speaker 1: the more clinical sides of things right well, And I

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Speaker 1: think that was even my interest in interviewing him because

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Speaker 1: I didn't with a sex positive podcast, Like I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to, you know, maybe have so much of an

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Speaker 1: episode where it's like, yeah, if you have sex, you're

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Speaker 1: of relationship. So anyways, we're sitting here talking guys. We

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Speaker 1: are joined today with two special guests. Um, we have

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Speaker 1: Janelle and Olmo tail boom almost Tyle. We have almost

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Speaker 1: like bitch, I got this. Um we're gonna call her omo,

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Speaker 1: but we got Amo Janelle Ohm are you Homo? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean Omo, are you Homo? Because she was talking

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Speaker 1: about a girl was queer that would be Twitter name

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Speaker 1: that you can find me on Twitter. Pres momobile. Yeah

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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta your name girl, um and so, I

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Speaker 1: guess go ahead and introduce yourselves to our audience. I'm

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Speaker 1: Janelle A k A. I'm going half of the Nigeria Nightmares.

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Speaker 1: We call each other. That's what everyone That's what everyone

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Speaker 1: knows each other as well. That's what everyone knows us

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Speaker 1: at um as at work. Okay, where you got? Were

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Speaker 1: you born in Nigeria? No, I'm an half again, she's

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Speaker 1: she's full of mettri you Africa. Yeah, I love that

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Speaker 1: now that I spent in that too. But I everywhere Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm like just said, you know, I've never been there,

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Speaker 1: let's do a tour, bitch. No they like everyone says

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Speaker 1: funny story. When I did it, the friends that I

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Speaker 1: when I did it? Right. So I'm waiting for the

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to maybe start off this would be

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Speaker 1: debunk some of the myths associated with HIV, and one

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Speaker 1: So what he said, what he said was correct that like, um,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get it once it's in your digestive system.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, A don't ask what wear makeup? Some

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Speaker 1: Shut up. So another one of the myths that I

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Speaker 1: also a myth. Correct, that's a myth. That's not true

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Speaker 1: because HIV needs to it's a whole cell to live

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Speaker 1: So like, you know, even if a mosquito bites you,

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Speaker 1: to your viral load. So once you're in there's also

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Speaker 1: something now on the CDC, I believe in seventeen but

428
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: UM they came up with you equals you, which means

429
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 1: undetectable viral load equals untransmittable. So you want UM you're

430
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: likelihood of passing it onto somebody else. It's right, which

431
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: is why it's really important for people when they do

432
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: find out that they have HIV two immediate get linked

433
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: to care to start taking their intiretroviral medications because when

434
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: they're taking medication, they're keeping themselves healthy. UM, and if

435
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: you have an undetectable viral, then you can't pass it

436
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: on to other people. That's why it's even for people

437
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: that are undetectable. Yeah, it's like once you're if you're

438
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: HIV positive, you're always going to be on medication. And

439
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: then the third part of the three point plan is PREP,

440
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: so all the people who are HIV negative take PREP.

441
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: Or if you're in a relationship with someone who's positive,

442
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: which is called scientific term is serial discordant, but you

443
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: can just say magnetic couple like one positive. So if

444
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: you guys are in a magnetic couple, UM, then the

445
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: person who's negative should be on PREP so that they're

446
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: not going to contracted from their partner, and the person

447
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: who is positive, they're hopefully they're taking their medications in there.

448
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: And again that was something that we weren't able to

449
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: really touch on much in our previous HIV episode because

450
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: he was born with the virus, so PREP would not

451
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: have helped him UM. And so I do want to

452
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,479
Speaker 1: delve into that into the horrible decision, especially considering UM.

453
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: I've read articles where they're trying to issue it in

454
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: the a u C in Atlanta. So the CDC actually suggested, um,

455
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: the Atlanta University more Clark UM. And so basically they're

456
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: suggesting the CDC is suggesting that the youth start just

457
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: taking prep like we take vitamins basically. UM in So

458
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: like sorry, I kind of like skipped around Atlanta and

459
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get back to, you know, those

460
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: that to look, I was saying, like it disproportionately affects

461
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: like people of color. So it's like seventy three of

462
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 1: new infections are black people. UM of new infections are

463
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: men um you know, UM. And the majority it's like

464
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: sevent of new infections occur within the ages of twenty

465
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: and forty, so you know, it's like young people who

466
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: are becoming infected, which is why I understand why you know,

467
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: AUC would want to give it out to college like

468
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: their vitamins. It is absolutely and then I also read

469
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: as well, UM, while she's the owing those stats around,

470
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: I think it's important to remember as well that African

471
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Americans make up only twelve percent of the US UM

472
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: and something that I read is that of HIV cases

473
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: are African Americans. UM. So to know that is is

474
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: pretty staggering and unfortunate. UM, we're gonna delve more further

475
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: into HIV prep um some of the dope questions that

476
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: that Wheezy has as well. But I kind of wanted

477
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: to get into, you know, our kink of the week.

478
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: So for the kink this week, I didn't really want

479
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: to pick an actual kink. Um. I think it's important

480
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: that as we do Kinks of the week money this

481
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: is probably above episode a hundred or it's somewhere in

482
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: the nineties. We're fucking almost over a hundred episodes at

483
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: this point. But um, I wanted to discuss the difference

484
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: between a kink and a fetish. So I think we

485
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: talked about kinks a lot, and again, I guess I

486
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: wanted to look look into this because um, I refer

487
00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: to me enjoying pegging as more of a kink that

488
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: I enjoy part taking in. So I wanted to let

489
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: you guys know the difference, UM real quick. A kink

490
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: turns us on or or is considered outside of the

491
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: predetermined norm for those of you who may have fetishes.

492
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: Fetishes are more soda where you don't want to engage

493
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: in sex without having this. Of course, it also pertasts

494
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: the fantasies and things like that. But yeah, so foot

495
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: fetishes people like like they so the feed. So this

496
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: is how that is how, this is how they how

497
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: they break it down. Kinks are like salt. They simply

498
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: add to the flavor. Fetishes are like the food itself.

499
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: Without them, there is no meal. So there's a way

500
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: to look. So there are people who have kinks. I think,

501
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: I think there's kinks where you know what, I don't know.

502
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: I think you could have a lot of fetishes. Well,

503
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: you can have multiple fetishes, I mean, but for someone

504
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: you will you would want to So then I think

505
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: I think a better way to maybe word that how

506
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: I've always thought of fetishes as something longer lasting than

507
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: it is just one type of thing, like because kink

508
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: to me is just one piece of the puzzle that

509
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: you could try or something just like I don't know,

510
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: maybe like just calling it something. But a fetish is

511
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: something that you have ownership to, like it's your thing,

512
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: part of your identity that like, I have a fetish

513
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: for D S M. Right, that's like that's my jam.

514
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: I would eat it. I would become a fetish. But

515
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: you're you also, would you say, for the most part,

516
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: you're always in some sort of the fashion. B D

517
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: s M, of course is a wide range, but your

518
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: sub for the most part, even without trying to be

519
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: you're in a sub state when you're having sex, so

520
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: even though you're not going through the whole, probably yeah,

521
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: I t seven out of ten times. Yeah, so like

522
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: with me, I brought this up of course because of course, Yeah,

523
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: Peggy Bundy Ya gave me some great fame. I will say,

524
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: pegasaurus rex like I didn't hurt it all, um, but no, seriously,

525
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: like I've had some great but for Peggy, I will say,

526
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: even when it comes to my partners, I don't peg everyone.

527
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: It's not needed. I will say when I may. You

528
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: ask every when I'm vetting, I will say I do Like, Um,

529
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: I would say, b D s M is also probably

530
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: my fetish, but I'm more on the dominant side, and

531
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: to me, having access to a man's but makes me

532
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: feel fucking in control and dominant as probably violating as well.

533
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, so like, but do I have to peg

534
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: every partner that I have? No, Like I've been sucking

535
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: for five years, never ever have pegged. It's so funny

536
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: you're describing pegging this way. I just want to I

537
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: went on inter Ho Uprising, and they wanted to talk

538
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: to me about pegging, and I did not describe it

539
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: in a dominating way at all. To me, it's very

540
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with someone about that. They

541
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: were like, well, I feel like I would never want

542
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: to peg someone because I like to be submissive, And

543
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: I was like, have you ever had sex? So like,

544
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like, that's what I'm saying someone and

545
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: I did have, you could have someone. I did have

546
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: a nigga ride me and that was but I also

547
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: felt like it was me giving him a different type

548
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: of Like to me, pegging is in the highest sense

549
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: a dominant So here's why I think that sometimes there's

550
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: a catch twenty two with this because for me, I'm

551
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: a submissive person that enjoys giving people pleasure no matter

552
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: how they enjoy it. Right, we do sit here and

553
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: say that, you know. So the issue that men have

554
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: with pegging is giving up their masculinity, right. They think

555
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: their masculinity is in their assholes. So the problem with

556
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: always describing it as like fucking the ship out of

557
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: somebody in their ass being like dominating is that then

558
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: men who are dominant won't be interested. So for my

559
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: experiences with pegging, it's never really been like bent over

560
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: ship like it's always started for me, Like the first

561
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: few years, I never really even knew the term until

562
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: I watched Broad City was using toys like in their ass,

563
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: but never bent. So once I actually had a strap

564
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: on on for my first time, it still wasn't bent

565
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: like were you on? It was like missionary. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

566
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That doesn't feel well, that's probably

567
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: why to me, like I prefer get on all four.

568
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: So he was like to see them bets in those

569
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: type of and those type of positions, I would say

570
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: is probably again that goes to my dominant side. But

571
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: dominance BDSMB being bent over one person has control, yeah,

572
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: and so that's kind of power bottom, power bottom. I

573
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: feel like when he was writing he became a power

574
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: bottom right though he was on top, but then he

575
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: had control right back right, what's the bottom? The bottom

576
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: is just the term we get right type is someone

577
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: that's giving the dick inserted versus receptive. Right there you go,

578
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: So like if I like them to just look at

579
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: you bring it, we'd be like taking it receiving. You

580
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: hear about power bottoms. It's normally someone that quote unquote

581
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: throws it back, right, I'll be asking why writing like

582
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: back definitely a power bottom, even when like during Missionary,

583
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I think I'm always like still sucking someone back. But

584
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: how are you submissive and a power bottom? So I

585
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: definitely can switch, right, Okay, But I think that power

586
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: bottom for me is just not necessarily a dominant side

587
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: because I know how to suck somebody back. I still

588
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: like you could basically talk to me and make me

589
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: fuck you back, you know what I mean. It's crazy

590
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: to me because again I feel like even the fucking

591
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: back I feel like plays back into my dominance. Like

592
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: like like I say I'm a power bottom, I mean

593
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: like I'm the dominant seven is very dominant in bed,

594
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: he fucking fu the goddamn shit out of me. Literally,

595
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: it don't be messy. Let me not say literally, but

596
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: because all of that, right, but the dominance in me,

597
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: like while he's fucking me very very hard, is me

598
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: taking the dick and I sit here and pride myself

599
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: and being able to take it all like that again

600
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: is my dominance part of it. Like, so even when

601
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: I do say I'm a switch, I feel like thinking

602
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: of it that way, I feel like at all times

603
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: I like to feel like I'm in control, So me

604
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: taking the dick is me being in control, even if

605
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: he feels like he's more in control. Power bottom for

606
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: me is just no one I could suck back because

607
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't like that, especially like having a lot of

608
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: three stilms, or like fucking girls, even whether it be

609
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: toys or straps. Like I've seen women that don't fuck back,

610
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of like y'all have time. I'm

611
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: a fellow princess, don't drunk. I'm only fellow princess when

612
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I really don't want to fuck you like that. And

613
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: then I don't know why I'm sucking you in real life,

614
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: Like what am I doing? But I don't want to come?

615
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: But it's not you. It's not like I didn't It's

616
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: not like I'm forced into fucking this dude. It's just

617
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: like I just need to get off, Like sometimes you

618
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: want to have sex, but you're thinking about somebody else

619
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: that all the time, because you know, how do you

620
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: know how awful it is to sit here and nigga

621
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: and then as soon as y'all are done fucking you,

622
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: texting the nigga that you wish it was fucky done,

623
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, is that not terrible? Look Like

624
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: recently I was talking about scissors, but he was into it.

625
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: Like I was like, damn, I wish I was easy

626
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: busy right now he was like word and he was

627
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: it was he was like getting off at the ship.

628
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: But that's a girl like I'm talking about me fucking

629
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: a dick wanting another dick. Like that's a good point.

630
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: I guess I wanted like, you know, the side of

631
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: mash and I didn't want the whole new steak. There

632
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: you go, That's exactly what it was. That's exactly what

633
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: well I wanted to again to bring that up, I

634
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: think we've had kink of the week since we started

635
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 1: this show, and I think it was very interesting when

636
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: I saw that there is a difference between kink and

637
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: fetish um and again, so I want you all to

638
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: know that Peggy is my kink. I don't need it,

639
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: but you know it's cool if I could get it. Um.

640
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: So now we're gonna go ahead and get into our

641
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: whole decision. This is where I guess you can maybe

642
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: even we can delve back into I guess I want

643
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: to focus on prep for this, but also the testing

644
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: that goes on, how you respond when you do get

645
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: a positive result and we all your thing. But I

646
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: find that like the most interesting thing for me when

647
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: learning about, you know, new STDs and like how people

648
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: deal with them, because I've been fortunate enough to where

649
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: I've had partners. Luckily I've never you know, had it

650
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: happened where I've had it too, but I've had a partners,

651
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: I've had sex with text maybe like I found out

652
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: I got this or whatever. But I do want to

653
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: know when you know you're doing the mobile bus ship

654
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: and someone has it, and how often does someone have it?

655
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: Like do you feel like you're doing like five out

656
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: of a hundred, Like you feel like every hour you're

657
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: telling someone they have HIV only because we hear the

658
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: word epidemic and you know what I'm saying, I feel

659
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: like it sound like hear that word work um for

660
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: three year. We started off as interns and then that

661
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: led to us working. We've we've been around this and

662
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: in my time, I feel like I've had four but

663
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: honestly they were all So how any that you've done

664
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: that's a really five hundred thousand probably not not definitely,

665
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: not a thousand, but hundreds of only four. I just

666
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: had someone and I hate, like I hate doing testing. Um,

667
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: it just just because the PaperWorks. Not a hundreds and

668
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: only four people. That's like less than one percent, right,

669
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: But also, I mean, I think, so, how does the

670
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: probability with that number that you just gave as someone

671
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 1: that works there, especially in a neighborhood like a alphabet city.

672
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: So I'm on the Upper West Side, so we have

673
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: six locations and Janell's and the Lower Eastide I'm on.

674
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: You notice the difference with a certain neighborhoods Um, definitely.

675
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean we also have a Brooklyn the Bronx, and

676
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: then we have a site in um Chelsea. So then

677
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: for the prep patients there there primarily it's white gay men.

678
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: But for me, pretty much all of my patients are

679
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: people of color. So I mean, yeah, it's definitely there,

680
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: there's different demographics. But I've only had one positive person.

681
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: Like even though I say that I've been um working

682
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: as an intern for about like three or four years here,

683
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: I just started this position as a tester for about

684
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: like a year and a half. Weld that we could

685
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: have got we would have canceled this whole show, I'm

686
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: telling you right now, made everybody in the engineer these bitches.

687
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: No offense, everybody. No, it's confidential. So like we're not

688
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: allowed to tell you know, anyone year you're we would

689
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: have done it right here on air. Then we should

690
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: have did that. That would have been cool. That would

691
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: have been cool. Damn, I didn't even think of that time.

692
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: It hurts. Okay, So how how was that experience? You

693
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: sat here and you got someone who tested positive HIV?

694
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: What was how did you tell them? Okay? So what

695
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: the fact that we want to be negative normally positive

696
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: is a good thing in life. So I think it's

697
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: weird that it's it's looking for a result and it's there,

698
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: it's a positive. Let's see. That's I think part of

699
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: it too, that like, um, New York City has started

700
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: to do this thing where it's called status neutral care

701
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: and like we don't care if you're positive or if

702
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: you're negative. You know, like either result is a is

703
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: a good result because you know, if you're positive, then

704
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, okay, I got to take this medication. Gonna

705
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: say it is too And I like that because you

706
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: know it's not a death sentence. And you know, HIV

707
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: has gotten to the point where it's kind of like

708
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: any other chronic health condition, diabetes, healthcare, people who are

709
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: health care, heart disease. Sorry, people who have HIV link

710
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: are living long, long lives, and they're dying of other

711
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: things like cancer not related to their HIV or you

712
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, related to their obesity. Every day. It's everyday

713
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: thing that if you're taking this vitamin, but it's you know,

714
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: your medication, your life saving medication, then you are living

715
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: a normal, normal life. Okay, so let's let's get back

716
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: to this story to hear that I have a really

717
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: interesting story. Okay, So, first off, it was during I

718
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: do a lot of testing on the weekends, and we

719
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: were at a church in the Bronx so it was

720
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: mostly so mostly everyone there spoke Spanish and they were undocumented,

721
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: and um so I went with my coworker. She speaks

722
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: fluent Spanish. I could get around, like so I just

723
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: printed out all of the questions Spanish, like I know

724
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: enough them, like so, um I want but I wanted

725
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: to practice because oh this one is she knows I

726
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: know a little bit. But um so I just wrote

727
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: out all the questions in Spanish, so um, my coworking.

728
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: These are people who typically don't go UM to their

729
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: not getting regular healthcare services, um, because they don't have

730
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: insurance because they're documented, so it's really important for them

731
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: to come to this event. So we were I think

732
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: we must have tested like ten eleven people each that day.

733
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: So and we're doing back to back to back, like

734
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: barely got breaks. And it's like I don't I don't

735
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: mind it because I'm like, I want to do this,

736
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: like I know I'm helping prick always fingerprick. So um,

737
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: so this is like my last patient. We're about to

738
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: be done for the day. They made us food like

739
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to the food, like I was hungry. Now.

740
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: It was a lot, and it was funny because the

741
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: people they were trying to learn English and I was

742
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: trying to practice my Spanish, but we were getting through it.

743
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: And so I love that show. So this is my

744
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: last patient. And and then I saw that her test

745
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: came up positive. She was married. I think she was

746
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: from She was Mexican, she had two kids. Everyone was there,

747
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: so I had the wife and my coworker had the

748
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: husband and the kids are just waiting in a little

749
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: common area, and so I see a positive I see

750
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: I see the line because we're able to tell if

751
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: you're positive because you can see, um like a line,

752
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: another line will show up. I kind of wish we

753
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: brought test but anyways, okay, we don't want to hear

754
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: you to educated so that they would be like, you know, yeah,

755
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: um So anyway, so I see that she has a

756
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: positive testers on and I'm like, you know, based on

757
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the questions and what she's saying, she's been married. They

758
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, some most married people are not using condoms.

759
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: But she didn't say she had any other partners, so

760
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, so then, I mean, I'm also starting to

761
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: freak out because I don't know Spanish that well, and

762
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: so we have a language barrier, and I'm just like,

763
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: how do you tell someone that they have This happened

764
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: to me the other day, But like the lady spoke

765
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: not Spaient creole, Asian creole. So I was like, I

766
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. We have like language hotline,

767
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: so it's not like we're just you tell me, you

768
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: do a test for someone, you gotta be like, I

769
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: want to talk to them they because I've done that before.

770
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: You google translate results yes, yeah, and and join the

771
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: encounter like asking how many people did you have sex

772
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: with that type? You let them read it on your

773
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: phone and then I pressed saying that says it and

774
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I mean I've had to do that

775
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: like in the center, and then I just type it

776
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: like some stuff like because I can get by to

777
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: how many people live with you? And like the questions

778
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: that they asked some of them, but for the ones

779
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know, I just typed it and we got

780
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: through it. So anyway, so, um, so her test results positive,

781
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to freak out because I'm like, I'm

782
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: not gonna tell her obviously her first positive. Yeah, this

783
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: is my first one also, So I went to go

784
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: get my coworker and then she looked at me because

785
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: she's like, Um, the husband's positive too. So we were like,

786
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: so what did the husband say? Like I didn't. I

787
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: didn't really even see him or his reaction. But it

788
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: turns out so, um, the wife contracted it from the husband,

789
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: and um just that he I think, oh she told

790
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: she ended up telling us, but I'll get into that.

791
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: So she, um, she contracted from her husband, and um,

792
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: this brings up a bigger issue if they were both undocumented,

793
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: so they probably didn't receive proper healthcare and proper education

794
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: about the disease. So I don't for some reason the

795
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: wife thought that UM, even though she knew she was positive,

796
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: for some reason, she was just trying to test to

797
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: see if they're gonna come up positive. I'm taking my medication.

798
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: Are you going to be able to tell UM from

799
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: that that she knew she was positive and she was.

800
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: Did you guys test the kids? No? We did. We

801
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: didn't test the kids. Um. UM, Now would you suggest

802
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: if someone has HIV and there living with kids, like

803
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: you're not you know what I mean, Like it's not

804
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: a sexual relationship at that point, your kids be taking medicine.

805
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: How did that work? I think UM roommates. If the

806
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: mother was not tested before having having the child, UM,

807
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: then for sure I would test those kids. And since

808
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: they're undocumented, we're not really sure like what type of

809
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: health could they were receiving. I would probably suggest that

810
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 1: those kids be tested. But in the in the US,

811
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: like UM, all pregnant women receiving HIV tests, like you know,

812
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: that's like just part of the standard care. But it's

813
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: even it's even it's I want to dove into this

814
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: because it's not only with pregnant women, but a lot

815
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: of times UM, any woman who's undergoing any type of surgery.

816
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: So I had a weight loss surgery, and because UM

817
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: HIV does affect the white blood cell count, UM, they

818
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: want to They tested me for just about everything because

819
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: that would dictate how I healed after surgery. So if

820
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: any woman, whether you're getting like your tonsils, like maybe

821
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: not tonsils removed, but any any type of UM surgery

822
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: where you're going to be hospitalized or put under anesthesia,

823
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: or where they're cutting into of course is very UM important.

824
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: You'll be tested for HIV in the in the hospitals.

825
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: What are the ways you can get HIV? That isn't sex? Okay,

826
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wanted to get into that too, because

827
00:43:54,080 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: there's six different fluids from which you So it's breast milk, blood,

828
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: semen pre come so they call it seminal fluid, and

829
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: then pre seminal fluid, vaginal um fluid, and rectal fluid.

830
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: Aren't sex though, okay, So that aren't sex, would be

831
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: breast milk mother to child transmission UM. Also like when

832
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: the mother is having the baby like that that blood.

833
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of blood going on there. That's another

834
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: way that the mother can transmit it to the child,

835
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: which is what doesn't surprise me, because I don't know

836
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: if you'll be drinking milk which there's pus and blood. Yeah, milk,

837
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: I've watched my friend that should is disgusting. I mean,

838
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: it's not disgusting. Thank god, we're like us. We're the

839
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: only mammals that drink other mammals milk. Yeah, it's disgusting.

840
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: Not milk, even my ice creamy be like toasts. I

841
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: stopped drinking regular milk, but same, I thought I meant

842
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: like breast milk, like just watching it like come out

843
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: and ship like that. So I guess it's what you

844
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: were I guess were asking would be So I know

845
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: that the h of the epidemic in New York happened

846
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: specifically in the eighties because of the drug epidemic that happened.

847
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: So of course, needle dirty needles, So that's maybe the

848
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: tattoo that we brought up, like if you get tatted

849
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: with dirty needles that were used on sharing. So I

850
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: want to ask that would that not be airborne? Would

851
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: it not be able to get off of the needle, Like,

852
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: how does that well, I know with um in terms

853
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: of like syringes, if you're that's that's how a lot

854
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: of people were. OK. Yeah, so then that's why there's

855
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: a lot of needle exchange programs and people can go

856
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: exchange their dirty needles called works. And I heard some

857
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: cool things about Market Street in San franci I was

858
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: born in San France and then to go just like

859
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: kind of revisits her family and like different places like

860
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: where I grew up. And while I was there on

861
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: Market Street right, this is where like Bloomingdale's is. It's

862
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: like the most I don't know if you guys have

863
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: been like a bougie like neighborhood in San Francisco. Also

864
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: where the most drugs are sold and done right, kind

865
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: of like Atlanta where it's like one pretty block and

866
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: then one shitty block. So New York to New York,

867
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: I think New York, I don't think there's just really

868
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: I've never seen like a gorgeous block where you can't

869
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: see a homeless man, like I've never like I've been

870
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I've never been to

871
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: an area where I feel like this will just not happen.

872
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean in Queens far out. Maybe not

873
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: on the island, but if you go to Queen's side,

874
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: maybe hopeless people backed out. People could like project right across.

875
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: There's projects across this block. Like no, lie, Like I

876
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: was at a fucking ritz and it was like really

877
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: like like I was shy. I've never seen something like this,

878
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: not from zero to a hunt. It like turn the

879
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: block and like I never saw someone shoot up in

880
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: the street, multiple people shooting up like that really like

881
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: with Darring. So come to find out, I'm talking to

882
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: someone at the bar there later that day at the

883
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: hotel and he's like, yeah, Like the way it works

884
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: is they have these safe zones where people can't get arrested.

885
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: But the deal with the safe dome zones to stop

886
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: the HIV epidemic is there are people to distribute safe needles.

887
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: So they're basically so worried about the virus spreading that

888
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: like cops can't come to you here, you can come

889
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: get your needles here. And yeah, I wonder if in

890
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: l A So they have what is this, I don't

891
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: want to call it death row. Yeah here we go,

892
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: here I go. Its something like that, but all the

893
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: homeless people where they also don't get in trouble for

894
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: living in these tense in l A. I wonder if

895
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: they do anything like that around there. I'm sure they do.

896
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: Needle exchange programs are like really, you know, a huge

897
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: part of harm reduction UM and so like along with HIV,

898
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: honestly um injection drug transmission, so like sharing needles HIV

899
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: like of course it is a huge concern, But the

900
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: bigger concern with that is actually hepsi UM that you

901
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: know affects your liver and you know, once your liver

902
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: is messed up zero take those shots in school, so

903
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: you can get hepatitis A and B, but not C right, right, right, right, right,

904
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: we know we've got some shots can get from sucking,

905
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: Yes you can, but it's actually it's more rare than HIV. Right,

906
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: So HIV is easier to get through sex, and HEPSI

907
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: is not as easy to get through sex. But then

908
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: on the opposite end, HEPSI is very easy to transmit

909
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: through like sharing needles, and HIV is a little less likely. Yeah, okay,

910
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: I think, but they're like, you can be a lot

911
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: of people are co infected, which means they have both

912
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: um at the same time, and that causes a lot

913
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: of complications with you know, just like the body. And

914
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: we do have a I mean people, I feel fucked

915
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: up after this. No, no, no, you guys are doing

916
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: a great thing. But I'm getting sat We're going to

917
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: turn it around. So U we got a song? No, No,

918
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: take a family guy, Aids. Do you know what that is? No?

919
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: What's the family guy? You want know? I want to

920
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: put the clip in for the family guy. You've got

921
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: eight song? Like you remember that they were trying to

922
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: find this nice way to tell a patient they had

923
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: eights or something, and so they like did this whole

924
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: song and dance and the guys like in the hospital

925
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: like HIV. But blow Aids like that. I got a

926
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: nick for delivering bad news. I don't know how to

927
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: tell you this, Mr Davenny, so I'll let these guys

928
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: do it. You have a I hate to tell you,

929
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: boy that you have a You got the You may

930
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: you've caught it when you struck that filthy needle in

931
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: here or maybe all the unprotected sex, but you it

932
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: isn't clear. But but we're certain is you have a. Yes,

933
00:49:52,880 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: you have a not HIV, but be sure that you

934
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: see that this is not CHIV. Really, I'm sorry, I

935
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: wish it was something less serious, but you've got, I

936
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: mean to find out that you have HIV. Like I

937
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: said before, it could be a really good thing because

938
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: then you can take care of yourself with the medication,

939
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: which which is what I wanted to bring up. So

940
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: I guess there's a lot of and this can tie

941
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: in the end of it. So the difference between HIV

942
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: and AIDS and HIV become AIDS and AIDS. Can you

943
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: skip HIV and go straight to AIDS? How does that work?

944
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: Because easy just got AIDS out of nowhere and died

945
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: like two months later. But apparently that's a that's a

946
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: you know that was also like that time period. So

947
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: having that, do you want to take this? Alverad? You

948
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: want me to do this? Because they're both figuring out

949
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: who won't break this down? Right? I mean we can

950
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: take let's start with HIV, U B, HIV ub A.

951
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: Can we not turn them into HIV and eight? Okay? Okay,

952
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: was awful? What was it again? Okay? So HIV stands

953
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: for human, which means it's only in humans. Immuno deficiency

954
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: which means it affects your immune system. Your immune system

955
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: are all the cells that are kind of like little

956
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: soldiers in your body to protect you from outside invaders

957
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: like bacteria and viruses and you know, bad stuff pathogens,

958
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: but right, and not that. And then virus which means

959
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: that it's a virus, which means it needs to live

960
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: inside of a cell in order to live. And so

961
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: the cells that the HIV virus lives in are the

962
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: c D four cells UM, which are a form of

963
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: T cell in your body. Got exactly, So human is

964
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: the age. That's why the hum and with the virus,

965
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: you will always have a virus. And so when back

966
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: to that patient that I had, we had to explain

967
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: to her you're always going to be positive. So it's

968
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: herpies of virus yes, yes, okay yeah um. And then

969
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: with AIDS, so that's acquired immuno deficiency syndrome. So that's

970
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: it's basically like in if you want to think about

971
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: it this way, like someone had HIV, they didn't they

972
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: weren't intervened, and they didn't receive anti retroviral. The virus

973
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: kept making copies and it took over How long does

974
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: that process take it takes like it takes about ten

975
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: years for if you are untreated. Yeah, but but for

976
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: some people can take longer. But that's promising because that

977
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: means that like you have some time if you don't

978
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: get tested and okay, right, So it's why it's important

979
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: to definitely get on medication exactly right, you get on

980
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: like what are the probability of what is the probability

981
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: of dying with you have AIDS? Um quick? I mean,

982
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: because now your immune system is so compromised, and most

983
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: people don't. You don't die of AIDS, you dive in

984
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: AIDS related um exactly, or the flu a common cold,

985
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: so um. Once you have AIDS. So AIDS is sort

986
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: of like a classification. It's a diagnosis, and once you

987
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: get an AIDS diagnosis, you never lose that diagnosis, like

988
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: from your medical chart. Um. And so like the things

989
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: that kind of classify you as having AIDS would be

990
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: having like an aid's defining illness like car posy sarcoma,

991
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: like different types of rare cancers, or just simply like

992
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: if you're um, if your c D four count is

993
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: less than two hundred, um that so that means that

994
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of a lot of viral

995
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: cell or so you don't have a lot of cells

996
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: protecting you UM in your immune system. That was like,

997
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: that'll be honest with you, Like I just got tested.

998
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: What had a fingerprick? Um a few weeks ago we

999
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: recorded that episode. I just want to get it again.

1000
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm scared right well, And that was actually one of

1001
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: my new have you had unprotected sex? Okay, world, if

1002
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: you you can ask us personal questions? But then I

1003
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 1: felt like weird. We did that a whole episode where

1004
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: were talked about our goddamn abortions and y'all see here

1005
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: and talking about can we ask Yeah, I haven't had

1006
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: unprotected sex since I haven't had underprospective sex in a while.

1007
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: I have with a woman, but um, it's it's like, um,

1008
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: female to female transmission is very low and you'd be

1009
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: liking scissoring. But that's like and I mean bringing up women.

1010
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: So a lot of the times when people think of HIV,

1011
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: they're only thinking of men and men having sex with

1012
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: men typically, and women, especially Black women, are often left

1013
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: out of the conversation, which is how we sold a

1014
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: fun part of our job. Let's light in the mood

1015
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: to talk about sipping and spilling so that I'm gonna die,

1016
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: You're not gonna sit been right, So that's what we UM.

1017
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: We took over now after UM have to shout her

1018
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: name out. Her name is Sechia Robin Sekia, but UM.

1019
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: She was also an intern with us and she wanted

1020
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: to start doing these events to UM to just empower

1021
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: black women to take control of their sexual health. And

1022
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: so then after when she finished her internship, we were

1023
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: asked to take it on and we just made it

1024
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: more sex positive and more inclusive. You guys are testing there.

1025
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: We don't do testing there, but we're going we're looking

1026
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: into that for because you know we've had UM Hall

1027
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: at some of the events, it's like a wind down,

1028
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: like the wind down, So we make it a fun

1029
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: way to talk about sex and UM for our last right,

1030
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: for our last event, you guys can come to the

1031
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: next one if you want, UM. But for the last

1032
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: one we had UM Sam from Inner Hall Uprising. She

1033
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: was our moderator, so UM. So then we had people

1034
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: submit questions like relationship questions, and then we just snuck

1035
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: a little prep and PEP and HIV testing related questions

1036
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: we had into with the okay, So PREP stands for

1037
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: pre exposure prophylaxis UM. That means it's a pill that

1038
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: you take before UM you come into contact with HIV.

1039
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: So it's something that you have to take every single day, UM,

1040
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: like around the same time every day. It's kind of

1041
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: like birth control, but for HIV from Vinny UM. He's

1042
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: been on our show and he started taking PREP and

1043
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, my body, Like He's like, I

1044
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: just can't wait for to getting my system because it

1045
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: feels so weird this year. So yeah, I think it's

1046
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: like only people though really experience side effects. And the

1047
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: side effects are like nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. Some people said

1048
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: weight loss. I said, I wish. So here here's the

1049
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: thing that I wanted to ask pertaining to prep UM.

1050
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: So going to Nigeria, I had to get the yellow

1051
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: fever vaccine. Everyone knows of the flu vaccine every um

1052
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: during around this time of year. And so to me,

1053
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 1: what I learned with vaccine is that what it actually

1054
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: does is it infects your body with with the virus

1055
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: so that your body can and fight the virus off,

1056
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: which is weirdest to me. It's kind of like UM,

1057
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like, um, you know, I'm sure

1058
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: in the military and stuff, the soldiers they'd be doing

1059
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: like practice or whatever. It's kind of like that. So

1060
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: they give you a little bit of virus. They don't

1061
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: and not all the time they give you the full virus.

1062
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: In a lot of cases they just give you like

1063
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: pieces of the virus chopped up, so your body can

1064
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: kind of seem like that's what it looks like. Doesn't

1065
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: do that, right, It doesn't do that. Not putting HIV

1066
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: into our body. PREP is not putting HTV into your body.

1067
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: PREP has two medications interested being into off of year.

1068
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: These medications are they basically stop reverse trans I'm getting

1069
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: really medical, but basically it's just it's medication from dividing

1070
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: or it stops the virus from dividing. Now it has

1071
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: been around, I know, I heard about it, like I've

1072
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: just recently heard pre the last two years. So PREP

1073
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: was EFTY true vada as PREP was EFTY approved in

1074
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. Um. But for that true vada

1075
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: in the medication itself was FDA approved and has been

1076
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: around since like the two thousands. With well, now the

1077
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: commercials they try to trans Why is it because just

1078
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: advertised to men, and then they realized like, Okay, this

1079
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: isn't working, and also we need to have commercials. Is

1080
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: it stronger in men and not women? Like it's not.

1081
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: So basically, you know, a lot of municipalities New York, DC, Atlanta,

1082
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: they were saying, like, there's this huge HIV epidemic. It's

1083
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: affecting a lot of men, it's affecting a lot of

1084
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: young men. It's affecting a lot of young black, black

1085
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: and brown men. And you know it's true now that

1086
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: like if current epidemic rates continue, that like one in

1087
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: the lifetime risk of HIV infection for young black men

1088
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: is one and two for Latino men who have is

1089
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: one in four. Yeah, for men, for men who have

1090
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: sex with men, I'm sorry, not not just like heterosexual

1091
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: men are all men, but it's for men who have

1092
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: sex with men, the lifetime risk of getting HIV is

1093
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: one and two. That's really really scary, you know. And

1094
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: so they were looking at these statistics and they were like, well,

1095
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: we need to do something about it. And so they

1096
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: were trying to like, you know, pass out prep like

1097
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: it's vitamins um. And I don't necessarily agree with that

1098
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: because you know, there's a long make sure that you

1099
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: want and there's a long history of you know, just

1100
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: take what do you mean Because with with PREP, you

1101
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: need to you you need to take a daily so

1102
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: you need to That's that's um what's called adherents like

1103
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: birth control. Yeah, it's only gonna work like birth control.

1104
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: We always say that, like this is like birth control.

1105
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: It's only gonna work. But also like people who aren't

1106
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: adherent to PREP, if they're not taking enough of the

1107
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: medication and then they come to contact with the virus

1108
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: and they become infected, then the virus but they're still

1109
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: taking a little bit of true vada, but they're not

1110
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: taking like enough medication to UM like for treatment purposes.

1111
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: Then the virus can become smart and kind of get

1112
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: used to like true vada, and then it can become

1113
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: resistant to and like that, um so truvada. So tri vada.

1114
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: The two medications in trivada bonds, so it's always it's

1115
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: like two hundred to three, Like I'll see that in

1116
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: But if you've been taking PREP for like two years,

1117
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: you don't need to pump it up. No, But like okay, so,

1118
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: but truvada in it of itself, which is the only

1119
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: medication that is ft approved for PREP purposes. Like PREP

1120
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: is just kind of like birth control. It's like the

1121
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: umbrella term. And then true vada is like a form

1122
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: of PREP. It's the only form of PREP that we have.

1123
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: Now they're working on other forms. They are coming out

1124
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: with it like a gel a loobe. Do you guys

1125
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: to know, um, like cities or countries with the lowest

1126
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: race of HIV, just so we know where to travel.

1127
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't actually ship us questions. I don't know, but

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01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't expect it. I mean, like probably in the

1129
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: Midwest where nobody lives. I mean, but I think that's

1130
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: where you be surprised at. Like then also you know them.

1131
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: We have a lot of other factors, And I mean

1132
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: there was there was there was a map that I saw.

1133
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: I did want to go ahead. And before we we

1134
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: we get into our homemail. UM. For individuals who may

1135
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: think that this is really pricey, that's a conversation a

1136
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: lot that this costs so much. UM you know the

1137
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: reasons why? You know, Um, Magic Johnson is able to

1138
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: live because you can afford it. UM. I was talking

1139
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: to Olmo prior to recording, and she actually said that

1140
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: it is free um or very low calls to anyone

1141
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: with insurance Medicaid, Medicare they cover it um and then

1142
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: how much would it be on the high end if

1143
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: you don't have insurance. So if you don't have insurance,

1144
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: you are don't qualify for any assistance programs. And you

1145
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: can't get it from like a study, because a lot

1146
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: of studies are you know, doing prep studies are giving

1147
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: you the prep for free, you know, if you can't

1148
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: get it any of those other ways, than it's fifteen

1149
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: hundred out of pocket month a month, yeah, which is

1150
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: very pricey most people, but most people qualify for some

1151
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: sort of assistance. The pharmaceutical company they have a coupon

1152
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: like a cope coupon for people who have private insurance,

1153
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: and then if you have Medicaid, you're good. And also

1154
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: the manufacturer of the drug lay also offer like a

1155
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: program where they cover the cost of those are completely.

1156
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: You get it for free as long as you make

1157
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: like under fifty and there's yeah, I'm sorry, but just

1158
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: thinking of the price. Like so I went to Mexico,

1159
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: right and while I was there, I bought probably twenty

1160
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: in Hailer's. They're only two dollars, and it's not necessarily

1161
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: that I need twenty. But I always noticed, like there's

1162
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: so many instances where I went to Denver to visit

1163
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: dub forgot mine Hailer, and it was so difficult to

1164
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: have a doctor write me that ken in Hailer's had

1165
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: to go on this website, tell a doc, find someone

1166
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: to call me, pay fifty dollars with that appointment just

1167
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: to get then Hailer like, it was ridiculous just for beauty,

1168
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: all just oxygen to breathe. So I bought all these

1169
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,959
Speaker 1: inhalers I could have them. Bagra, I noticed was another

1170
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: thing my friends were asking me to buy, and then

1171
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: the next one I saw that people were buying like crazy.

1172
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: There was prep, yeah, but what was interesting about PREP

1173
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: in Mexico is like this guy behind me in line

1174
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: asked for it and she's like writing down something on

1175
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: this paper, enhands it to him. And there was a

1176
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: place for people to go get it. I don't even

1177
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: know if they sell it in their pharmacies, but like

1178
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: that's that might have been drugs its place as another

1179
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: time just exam X. There are certain prescriptions in Mexico

1180
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: that do require prescriptions, so most don't work, is why

1181
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: people have funing viagraph fetterman there. But PREP, I do

1182
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: think may have a prescription, and the guy really needed

1183
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: it or wanted it, and so she gave him a

1184
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: place to go get it. I mean, I feel like

1185
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: if I was in Mexico, I would and I was

1186
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: using PREP for the purposes of HIV prevention, which is

1187
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: really the only reason why you would be taking it.

1188
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: I would want to make sure that it was actually PREP,

1189
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes you go to other countries and um,

1190
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: their pharmaceutical industry isn't as regulated and sometimes the drugs

1191
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: aren't as effectively, might be expired, but blah blah, Like

1192
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to make sure I bought so I

1193
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: bought them a bit of birth control there too, because

1194
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: it's like a dollar. And then I was like checking

1195
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: the packs and one of them expired in a month,

1196
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh you tick now, I'm sorry. That

1197
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: was not a Mexicans all the time in Chinatown. So

1198
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: it's like kind of you know, my brain. So I

1199
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: did pull up that map though, so it looks like

1200
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: fifty and this is a dot gov by the way,

1201
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: so we're not just googling again, guys, the South Maids

1202
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: makes up fifty of new HIV cases. Yes, and um,

1203
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: it looks like Georgia's the highest, then Florida, then Louisiana.

1204
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: Some of the lowest that I see probably like, um,

1205
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 1: looks like Utah, Wyoming is one seven bro um, Let's

1206
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: see what else California? Do you want to go there?

1207
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: Samoa has it's like zero some going on somewhe oh um.

1208
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: But my thing is why be worried about the map

1209
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: when we know that, like condoms are so affective. He's

1210
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: saying that, but I am curious to know is Yeah,

1211
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: that's true, but you know where it's spreading the lead.

1212
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and get into our homemail. Now.

1213
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: Before we get into the homemail, can you guys please

1214
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: read your shirt because I think it's awesome and I

1215
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: think this is also why I chose this. We want

1216
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: to shout out Kayla Robinson from Green Box shopf Um,

1217
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: we have the y B racist, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic

1218
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: when you could just be quite trips on the one

1219
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: that Frank Ocean wore like Panorama and then that's when

1220
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: she blew up, thank you, I did not know your

1221
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: name or Instagram. Kaylea, I just said to these girls

1222
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: and they walked in. I'm like, I feel like I

1223
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: have a short like this. And she came to the

1224
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: Zozo Talk in Miami and handed me some shirts. I've

1225
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: been wearing them and I'm like, I don't know who

1226
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: to the tag green Box shot. I think so thank

1227
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: you Green Box Shop guys checked them out. So the

1228
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: homemail for this week. By the way, guys, if you

1229
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: guys want to send in your homemail, you can email

1230
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: us at Horrible Decisions at gmail dot com. So it says,

1231
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: what's up, fam, I love the podcast many, I appreciate

1232
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: your organization, and WEEZEI, I admire your perspective. Together, you

1233
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: guys make a dope team. Okay, So to the meat.

1234
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: I met this sedge off tender let's call her sour Patch.

1235
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean she was right, the right mix of feminine

1236
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: and masculine energy, sweet pussy. I couldn't ask for anything more.

1237
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: We've been talking for just a few months, but the

1238
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: chemistry was undeniable. She's from another state, so she flew

1239
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: in for the weekend. We've seen each other on four

1240
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: occasions now, ship. I thought we had a great time.

1241
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: Art exhibit movies pool. I mean we was chilling. Backstory,

1242
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm married, currently separated, living in a different state for

1243
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: the last six months, and she's been single for five years.

1244
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: I probably could have started with that, huh. Anyway, So

1245
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: on the last night, I asked her, do you see

1246
01:06:54,920 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: this going anywhere? Her reply was some She said, I'm

1247
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: here with you, enjoying our time. I expressed that I

1248
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: just right right, that's all it is. I expressed that

1249
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: I just wanted to match where she is, continue to

1250
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: get to know her, but I just don't know what's

1251
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: doing too much or saying too much. I haven't been

1252
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: single in a long time. I thought she understood. Hindsight,

1253
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: I know she was like, I gotta get the funk

1254
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: out of here. That night ended in cuddles. Then when

1255
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: I dropped her off at the airport, the hug was

1256
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: long and the kiss was sweet. She let me know

1257
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: when she got She let me know when she got back.

1258
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: The next day, I didn't hear anything, which is normal

1259
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: behavior from her. I wasn't tripping. I just saw her.

1260
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: The following day. I'm blocked on social media and she

1261
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: blocked my number, no warning, no nothing. I'm actually writing

1262
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: this on day two of her ghosting, She's not coming back.

1263
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie. It took me back a

1264
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: little like finding out you got stung by a bee

1265
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: while you was trying to enjoy an ice cream cone.

1266
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: During her visit, we made plans together to come to

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Speaker 1: the live show in Atlanta. I have two tickets and

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Speaker 1: now no date. I think this girl wrote me and

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Speaker 1: she was like, Yo, can I turn my ticket in

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Speaker 1: foro V I P yes, you can. Yes, she wants

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Speaker 1: to take a picture with us. Whoever is at the

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Speaker 1: door go up and be like I'm the whole mail

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Speaker 1: and then sincerely newly ghosted, um. And then I think

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Speaker 1: it's so. I thought it was just an interesting letter, um,

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Speaker 1: that that she sent in. Of course, honey, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and hollidays. It's cold, it's a cold, cold world. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, um. And it just made me

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Speaker 1: think that I don't think a lot of us say

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Speaker 1: what we want in the beginning of things, and we

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Speaker 1: let things roll, and when things start getting good, maybe

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Speaker 1: we do start applying pressure to situations where the other

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Speaker 1: person isn't wanting pressure, the other person doesn't want a

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Speaker 1: relationship and they're just enjoying your company. But unfortunately, when

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Speaker 1: we enjoy someone's company, now we just want to be

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Speaker 1: with them and it's like can we be with you now?

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Speaker 1: Do we match? Are we gonna be married? Like? Are

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Speaker 1: we can you be my girlfriend? Keeping my boyfriend? And

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Speaker 1: unfortunately it does kind of scare people all away, UM

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Speaker 1: more times than not. So thank you for your home mail.

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Speaker 1: UM wanted to just read that. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: interesting and we will be seeing you in Atlanta, honey,

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Speaker 1: just know that, UM, so before we be a new

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Speaker 1: person there. Yeah. Oh there's a ton of people. I

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Speaker 1: did want to say that gay at our show where

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Speaker 1: they'll be trying to eat we pussy like maybe, oh no, well,

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Speaker 1: our fucking horrible decision shows are Honestly, I haven't had

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Speaker 1: like one live show I've done in the last four

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Speaker 1: live shows or any kind of Q and have done

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Speaker 1: where someone hasn't asked to fuck me on the mic

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Speaker 1: with their partners, we get a lot of like an

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Speaker 1: UM shout out to blog melon and milk. She actually

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Speaker 1: bought me like Dominatrix Lingerie for my Atlanta show. We

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Speaker 1: have dopes um followers. But I guess again before we

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Speaker 1: before we sign off, UM, where can our listeners maybe

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01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: reach out to you or where can they get further

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01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: information on PREP and HIV if you can go ahead

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Speaker 1: and drop that. Okay, So, um, you guys can follow

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Speaker 1: our page for anything PREP HIV related. It's called at

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Speaker 1: Sipping and spilling so s I P p I n

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Speaker 1: U yeah, and then spilling s p I l I

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Speaker 1: n so no g's um. And then my personal instagram

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Speaker 1: is j Arra so j a y underscore e r

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Speaker 1: A h h. My instagram is at m O m

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Speaker 1: O momo underscore Bologny b O l O g n

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Speaker 1: A Bologna Bogna. That's what I mean. It's like boster

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Speaker 1: By Arena song. We all knew that, right well g

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Speaker 1: n A right yeah yeah. Um, and again we want

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and shout out to everyone who's coming

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Speaker 1: to see us on tour. Um for um, we're in

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Speaker 1: Houston to three. We're gonna be at everybody in Texas,

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Speaker 1: is right, and it's funny they all ready to get

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Speaker 1: by the way for all of y'all that Um. I

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Speaker 1: do just want to say this, So Atlanta was not

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Speaker 1: a show that we added a show to, nor did

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Speaker 1: we switch anything around. So unfortunately we are not giving

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Speaker 1: you refunds because you want to go see B two

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Speaker 1: K bitch, We're gonna come out to be too K

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Speaker 1: for that ass. Okay, we're gonna see here and give

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Speaker 1: you on that song. For those of that are just

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Speaker 1: saying I can't make it anymore, I'm sorry. Um, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to throw that out there. Um. It was

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Speaker 1: on the fine print we're not accepting refunds, um, but

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to pay that out there. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying all we had like thirty to five dollar

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Speaker 1: tickets Randy from thirty five to fifty and two ks

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Speaker 1: like people see they paid promo code. So we talked

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Speaker 1: about regular people who just BUYK. They ain't Beyonce, Like

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Speaker 1: I got a ticket and for free. So I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring scissors to the show. I'm buy The

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Speaker 1: ticket was three and I was like, guess what, I'm

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Speaker 1: only one call at the Hulu at the Hulu theater here. Um,

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Speaker 1: but they're doing by the way, Um, we're looking to

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Speaker 1: be doing our New York show the same day as

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Speaker 1: the B TWOK. But it will be even flock to

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Speaker 1: six o'clock four to stand. It's very close to the Venue.

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Speaker 1: So you guys games if you're in Toronto, y'all, we

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Speaker 1: did push that back to May and we are still

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Speaker 1: working on Miami and l A Venue. So sorry for

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Speaker 1: the change. But unfortunately with you know, we work out

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Speaker 1: of theaters and so it's like someone books the week

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Speaker 1: it's it's very difficult with us to get one day

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Speaker 1: on the weekend. And yeah, but I do want to

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Speaker 1: shout out to our Patreon listeners, So everyone that's heard

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Speaker 1: this next episode, sorry, but for the rest of your

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Speaker 1: motherfucker's you'll have a small clip enjoy this. Also, if

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Speaker 1: you think that the episode you just listen to was great,

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: thank you. If you think you could have done something

1358
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: better to help out with it, call us at the

1359
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars here on Patreon. After four months we send

1360
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,879
Speaker 1: out merch as well as call listeners for outline feedback

1361
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: and for help. You can pretty much produce an episode

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01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: with us five dollars a month. You get three bonus

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: episodes per month that's going to come out every Monday

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Speaker 1: right after this show. So if you want some more,

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01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: go on Patreon and you'll have a new episode waiting

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01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: for you right now. Halla, this has been yet another

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Speaker 1: episode of horrible decisions by a person I dated who

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Speaker 1: was black before my current girlfriend, Nice is, she had

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Speaker 1: dated other Asians previously, because I think it happens to

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Speaker 1: be whatever is available. Because in the Bay Area, I

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Speaker 1: think maybe there's just a surplus of Asian dudes. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of Asian dudes and a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: black women. I don't know if there's a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of black bay Area is asking us to come and

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Speaker 1: they all black. Nice Yeah, I haven't seen you guys,

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Speaker 1: Met and Kelly. Yeah, we moved here together. How long

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Speaker 1: you've been together? Two? Wow? Wow? Two years? And you'll

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Speaker 1: move across country together. Now, let me ask you made

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Speaker 1: some jokes that I thought were great about your parents

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Speaker 1: asking or I don't know if it's true, but the

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Speaker 1: color of the skin, right, how dark? Things like that

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Speaker 1: is a big thing. And you talk about that a

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Speaker 1: little bit dating a black woman and if they were like,

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Speaker 1: how how black? Yeah, that's that's how that's legit. My

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Speaker 1: mom did ask how black is your girlfriend? And I

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Speaker 1: had to show her a picture of ices and she said,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, that's too black. He said, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you, because we're getting into this. Yes, what was

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Speaker 1: your response, did he clearly you've heard this because he

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Speaker 1: didn't said this on stage? Yeah, what was your response

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Speaker 1: to that? I was expecting it anyway, so I was

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Speaker 1: prepared for it. We talked about this, like I think

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Speaker 1: on our first date, where we're gonna have to get

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Speaker 1: into the parent thing, the friend thing, what you guys

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna be our horrible decision guys if you

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Speaker 1: guys haven't pointed yet, but we're gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 1: jump into vanilla ship. We're gonna kind of make it,

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Speaker 1: make it a little couple never heard from our show.

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Speaker 1: Vanilla Ship is basically where we find and an article

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Speaker 1: or pick something that's going on the news current that

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Speaker 1: related to sex and so, as y'all know, and and

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Speaker 1: actually we was like, yeah, we kind of got to

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: talk about this, and I don't know how late we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be in this post. But as y'all know, um

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Speaker 1: our queen, well, I guess she's not really our queen.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not Beyonce bit my bad, okay, our princess

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Speaker 1: um Cardi B broke up with um offset off the

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Speaker 1: knob and so they're no longer together. Did you guys

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Speaker 1: see did you guys a video now someone said, oh wow,

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01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: she's topless and doing a customer service voice. So basically

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Speaker 1: we're not together. We tried to make a war. Um

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Speaker 1: but like I love when ratchet people do that, try

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Speaker 1: to sound it's the best. I called to you over

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Speaker 1: the other day scream and she was like, well, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna really try to get this together for you.

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Speaker 1: So I just that you relax. You know, she was

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Speaker 1: black My fably have to switch the T mobile everyone. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: the Indians pick up when I called for my every

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Speaker 1: well they all now, Well, the thing is like most customers,

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Speaker 1: I am actually no, you're not a lot of our

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Speaker 1: Filipino though Filipino piso's got good English. They do, but

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Speaker 1: you can also hear when it's like a Filipino trying

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Speaker 1: to do you know, you're thank you, ma'am for calling

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Speaker 1: an American Express. You're right. I mean, we's out there

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Speaker 1: with all the ages by the nut follows. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be for instable anyway. So I wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about because we haven't had a couple in a while.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've had a couple maybe since the

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Speaker 1: Swinger episode. Um so before we get into these questions

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Speaker 1: regarding the breakups, and you know, maybe the last straw.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys monogamous? Yes, you guys are gonna Oh

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Speaker 1: so this is gonna be fun as fun. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: are you a monogamous? Would you cheat together like a threesome?

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Speaker 1: I love it? She was like, no, that was allowed.

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Speaker 1: Y'all got the home show. You got to break them up.

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Speaker 1: We'll back cross country.