WEBVTT - The Cookout Ain't Dead

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<v Speaker 1>Traditions are changing because the culture has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmmm, dead ass, And the way I see it, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't be wanting mad people up in my house,

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<v Speaker 2>know how, because my social battery be depleted. Okay, invite

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<v Speaker 2>me somewhere that ass. Hey, I'm Kadeen and I'm Devoured

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<v Speaker 2>and we're the Ellis's.

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<v Speaker 3>You may know us from posting funny videos with our.

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<v Speaker 2>Voice and reading each other publicly as a form of therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I make you need therapy most days.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and one more important thing to mention, we're married.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, we are. We created this podcast to open

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<v Speaker 3>dialogue about some of Li's most taboo topics.

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<v Speaker 2>Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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<v Speaker 3>is a term that we say every day. So when

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<v Speaker 3>we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Were about to take philos off to our whole new level.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead ass starts right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So story time, I'm gonna take y'all back to my childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I say childhood, this is when I was

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<v Speaker 3>a teenager. It was barbecue and then huh, oh, you

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<v Speaker 3>you know because when you met us. Yes, it was

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<v Speaker 3>every weekend, every single weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean you could propose to me at a barbecue.

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<v Speaker 1>I did my brother's.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it Memorial Day?

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<v Speaker 2>It was his graduation.

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<v Speaker 1>Graduation barbie graduation barbecue.

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<v Speaker 3>But I take y'all back to when I was about

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen sixteen, and this was the time when we stopped

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<v Speaker 3>going to Tennessee because my brother and I were playing

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<v Speaker 3>sports heavy in Brooklyn. So when the summertimes now, we

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<v Speaker 3>were back home in Brooklyn, and every weekend in the summertime,

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<v Speaker 3>my dad would just be like, yo, going to get

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<v Speaker 3>some ribs, going to get some burgers, some sausages. Your

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<v Speaker 3>mother's making macaroni salad and potato salad. But y'all gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to grilliz meat because it's hot out there, paused,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not standing out there. And we used to

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<v Speaker 3>be like bet and that became a routine every summer. Gavin, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 3>me Brian, my cousin Devonne, my cousin Dorian, and my

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<v Speaker 3>cousin Portion when she used to come in from Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 3>We would all be in the backyard playing dominoes, playing spades.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single weekend, and it was just like something we

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<v Speaker 3>did to kind of keep us out the street, because realistically,

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<v Speaker 3>back in those days, if you wasn't in the backyard

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<v Speaker 3>doing something, you was in the streets doing something you

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't supposed to. So my dad's whole thing was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather my kids be where I can see them, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>And we would invite the whole block. We would invite

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<v Speaker 3>all our friends, whatever team I was a part of,

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<v Speaker 3>those teammates would be there, my brother's teammates would be there.

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<v Speaker 3>And my sister was kind of young around this time.

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<v Speaker 3>She was ten years younger than me, so she was

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<v Speaker 3>like six or seven years old. She ain't really have

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<v Speaker 3>no friends like that that could come over and barbecue,

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<v Speaker 3>but her little friends from next door on the cole

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<v Speaker 3>and from down the block a leadah, they would come

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<v Speaker 3>in the backyard. And that's how we weild the community,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. It was just a safe space for all

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<v Speaker 3>the kids to come and just chill.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out the scoop and mouth for feeding droves and

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<v Speaker 2>droves and droves.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they did that. I really don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 1>It was costcos every week too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why your mom's so tired now shout out,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to my because man, my girl will be tired.

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<v Speaker 2>And I understand because I feel like that's my future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be our.

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<v Speaker 2>House karaoke time. So we were conflicted about like what

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<v Speaker 2>our karaoke song was going to be today, not really conflicted,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like we should do both because they

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<v Speaker 2>both made us think of family time, cookouts, traditions, events,

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<v Speaker 2>gatherings as my island people would say a special all of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those things auspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, so do you want to go with

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<v Speaker 2>your was first?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think I should go? Mom first?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go first. And I was just so excited, Ready, ready,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it? Electric bookie woog wog. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it. It's electric bookie wiggy woogie, and I know it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know the words, does anybody? I've got

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<v Speaker 2>to move? I thank you and I'll teach you the electrics.

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<v Speaker 2>Lie my mom electric slide champion, Okay. And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the way she does it with this little stush little

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<v Speaker 2>face and the two hands be going and the hit

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<v Speaker 2>and then it dropped forward and then pulled back on me.

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<v Speaker 2>But my mom really I love it. But one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, and any events we've had our moms definitely

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<v Speaker 2>spearhead the electrics.

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<v Speaker 3>Li.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost banded at our wedding, but I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I can't take that joy from our culture.

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<v Speaker 3>You can.

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<v Speaker 2>And then now I look very every excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm over you electric slide on every song, I'm holding

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<v Speaker 3>on you, electric slide.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna throw that shoulder and bring it back all

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<v Speaker 2>right now, And it's the kick and then the side.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what's your song. We'll reminds your cookouts and

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<v Speaker 2>in all those things family events.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's cookouts, it's weddings. It's the end of every

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<v Speaker 3>black movie. Does anybody know what it this?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm mmmmmmmm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like what.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see you when you all hey, even when

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<v Speaker 3>you're talk it takes all men.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that is my jam yo.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness, my goodness. All right, before we go

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<v Speaker 2>into some more song and dance, because we definitely have

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<v Speaker 2>some other ones. I think on the on the island

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<v Speaker 2>side of things, what would be like the one that

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<v Speaker 2>we would do mostly that everybody gets on the dance floor. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt's favorite, Oh Pa, shout out to Matt. Matt shot

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<v Speaker 2>one too many weddings. He said, I can never hear

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<v Speaker 2>that song again for the rest of my life, and

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<v Speaker 2>it would be too soon. He's either that or the

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<v Speaker 2>dollar line sent I sent Tencent Dolla. Hey speaking to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go pay some bills and we're gonna come back

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<v Speaker 2>and get into the meat of the show. Where are

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<v Speaker 2>the traditions going? Are they going? Are they saying, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, We're gonna talk about it. We'll be back,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. So we're back and we are talking about traditions, gatherings, cultural,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get togethers. What's happening to those What kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sparked my interest in this conversation was seeing essence

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<v Speaker 2>posts about it because Memorial Day weekend typically tends to

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<v Speaker 2>be the kickoff for you know, cookout season, barbecue season,

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<v Speaker 2>lineman season, as we say in the Islands, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get together is the weather's perfect. You know, everybody's looking

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<v Speaker 2>for somewhere to go, something to do outside. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember those those days I coming into your family

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing that that was like a thing and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a formal everybody get together kind of planned event.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of just happened and spiraled into these get

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<v Speaker 2>together that became a thing. What y'all doing, What y'all

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<v Speaker 2>doing is sod. Everybody being at home doing nothing? Come on, right?

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<v Speaker 2>And I love that your parents created, like, essentially, what

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<v Speaker 2>was a safe space for all of the local teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>and all of our friends and whatnot. And we would

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<v Speaker 2>be there till the wee hours of the morning and

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<v Speaker 2>the only stipulation was that we had to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>we cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 3>The sink.

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<v Speaker 2>Your father would thorough conniption, that was the case. And

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<v Speaker 2>then all so too after a while. It's just like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>if you coming, don't come empty handed. Now, facts you

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<v Speaker 2>better bring in case of soda.

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<v Speaker 1>Something back of hot dogs, bring bring something.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring something. But it was the camaraderie, right, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy because as you grow, I'm kind of wondering, is

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<v Speaker 2>it becoming a lost art form? Is it that we

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<v Speaker 2>are aging out of that age group where people get

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<v Speaker 2>together often because we now have responsibilities and kids and

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<v Speaker 2>our weekends are laden with sports and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many different factors, but not just factors when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to just socialization, but there're economic factors absolutely, So

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<v Speaker 2>what's your take on in baby?

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing I've noticed is even amongst my friends, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember we were growing up, there was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>where the party at? You know where's where? You know

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<v Speaker 3>where the uncles at? You know what I'm saying, Like

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<v Speaker 3>who house we going to? And it's like, nigga, we

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<v Speaker 3>the uncles like they supposed to be looking to come

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<v Speaker 3>to our house, y'all be.

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<v Speaker 2>Fighting this shit a mug now, Like, don't be calling

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<v Speaker 2>me auntie. Y'all be calling me auntie in the comments.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like that that's part of the problem though, That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I don't want to be an auntie.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the problem. You're not embracing the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>you have a responsibility to the community to open up

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<v Speaker 3>your home so that the young people can come to

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<v Speaker 3>your house and learn how to be the next Auntie.

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<v Speaker 3>Too many aunties and uncles now are trying to act

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<v Speaker 3>like young kids and they're still out in the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's one aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, can we push push, Let's just push the decade,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe when I'm like in my fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really reading your fifties.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, our house is like, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna have grandkids in your fifties, says who absolutely. Jackson

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<v Speaker 3>is thirteen. When you turn fifty, you'll be twenty three now,

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<v Speaker 3>so in your fifties, he's gonna have a child. You're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be cute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you will be cute. You're gonna be a thick grandma.

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<v Speaker 3>You get a thick grandma, and you're gonna be in

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<v Speaker 3>the backyard making potato salad and macaroni salad. So these

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<v Speaker 3>kids can come in here because I don't want my

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<v Speaker 3>boys out in the street either.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather than be here, bro, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we have a kind of an open door

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<v Speaker 2>policy with our boys and their friends. Now, I mean shit,

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<v Speaker 2>all of out say anybody to be here all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is, it is part of that, like it

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<v Speaker 3>just and this is not you know, some of this

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<v Speaker 3>as jokes, but this is the reality. Right, socio economically,

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<v Speaker 3>things have changed for us as people. My parents got

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<v Speaker 3>married at twenty one twenty two, had their first child

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<v Speaker 3>at twenty two, right, and they were you know, set

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<v Speaker 3>in their lifestyle as being family people. They both worked,

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<v Speaker 3>but they had kids. Now people are having children later.

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<v Speaker 3>They're having children mid thirties, you know. So now that

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<v Speaker 3>they're having children mid thirties that time where my parents

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<v Speaker 3>were being the auntie and uncle when they were their

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<v Speaker 3>late children, our generation isn't doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>True.

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<v Speaker 3>And also social economically, you can't afford to have the

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<v Speaker 3>whole community in your backyard right now, like property property

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<v Speaker 3>value has risen. I think even the cost of purchasing

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<v Speaker 3>a home or the amount of people own homes now

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<v Speaker 3>has dropped since when our parents. So not only do

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<v Speaker 3>the aunts and uncles not want to be aunt and uncles,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't own properties to have people come over to

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<v Speaker 3>have cookouts at as high rate as we did back

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<v Speaker 3>in the eighties and nineties. That's just a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>And said that, yeah, for sure. Actually that's a perfect

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<v Speaker 2>segue to some facts and stats. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what sparked this idea for me today was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>a social media post from Essence magazine that ax users

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to the cookout and a ray of different

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<v Speaker 2>responses were given, and here are some of them that

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<v Speaker 2>I think are totally spot on. COVID Right, so some

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<v Speaker 2>people are still not fully back outside and recovered from

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<v Speaker 2>the effects of COVID. Food prices skyrocketing, clearly cutting family ties.

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<v Speaker 2>Our generations are like, you know what, I ain't really

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<v Speaker 2>want aunts to your uncle or grand so granda or

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<v Speaker 2>grand uncle whoever.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but I'll push back on that. Okay, those people

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<v Speaker 3>don't got to be invited to your barbecue anyway. That's

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<v Speaker 3>sure you not having a barbecue because you're cutting family ties.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a reason to not have a barbecue your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Right or are we having barbecues that just everyone is not,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going to be invited to? Yes, that's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's also laziness, like he's got uber eats, you

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<v Speaker 2>got door dash. It's just like, do I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to go through the hassle of half to cook you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from scratch? What also to I'll add to that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess part of laziness. But another maybe bullet point

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<v Speaker 2>would be everybody got a different food allergy. This person

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<v Speaker 2>will eat that one, somebody vegan, somebody vegetarian. That's when

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<v Speaker 2>you say, you know what, bring what you eating, what

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<v Speaker 2>you drink? Let's pop look up in this bitch, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time for you and your allergies, lack

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<v Speaker 2>of family values, our children's generation not having any cousins. Well, shoot, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what cut Well we have cousins on one side.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind. One user said, none of us know how.

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<v Speaker 3>To fade so but so this goes back to what

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<v Speaker 3>we've been talking about all season, perception versus reality. You

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<v Speaker 3>cannot listen to social media as to who is and

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<v Speaker 3>who isn't having barbecues because we still have family cookouts

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<v Speaker 3>and barbecues. We just had one for Mother's Day. I did,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like, we still do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And the truth of the matter is a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that are having these conversations on social media, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not the ones having family values. They're not the one

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<v Speaker 3>that's not having cookouts. But the people who are having

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<v Speaker 3>cookouts aren't on social media cooking out right, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. So they're not even involved in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Because when you you asked me about the conversation, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, who not having cookouts? Because we still.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we still are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a perception and then there's a reality.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think the reality is true, particularly when

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<v Speaker 2>you brought up the property like, if you don't own

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<v Speaker 2>a place, then where are we having these cookouts? But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean also too, there's what public places like. You've

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<v Speaker 2>used to see cookouts at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Park, at the park, Aluly No pull.

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<v Speaker 2>A grill out, everybody to state their claim in the grass.

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<v Speaker 3>In Brooklyn, see I View Park Always every weekend, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a grill out there and there was families out there,

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<v Speaker 3>So even people who couldn't afford properties back then. And

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<v Speaker 3>when I say back then, I'm talking about ten years

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<v Speaker 3>ago when you and I were living in Brooklyn. I

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<v Speaker 3>worked at Pakplex. I had my sports performance program there.

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<v Speaker 3>Dolo and I and Brian would be there and Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>and we'd be training the kids and we'd do a

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<v Speaker 3>leaf physique. But afterwards we'd leave there and we'd smell

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<v Speaker 3>the food because Ceview Park was filled with people having.

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<v Speaker 2>Codd Yeah, CV Park and Narcipier. When you come off

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<v Speaker 2>that belt park where you come around the bend, you

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<v Speaker 2>see everybody outside. But to your point, since the nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of living has more than double. So one

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<v Speaker 2>dollar in twenty twenty four is worth two dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>twelve cents back in nineteen ninety four, and since nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four. Hours worked have fallen into the private sector

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<v Speaker 2>and risen in the public sector, so the increase in

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<v Speaker 2>hours may stem from restrictions on hiring in the sector. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 2>the hours reported by self employed people have fallen over

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<v Speaker 2>forty two hours per week to thirty seven in the

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<v Speaker 2>latest data. Also, after decades of relative stability, the rate

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<v Speaker 2>of US home ownership began to search in the mid nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>rising from sixty four percent in nineteen ninety four to

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<v Speaker 2>a peak of sixty nine percent in two thousand four.

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<v Speaker 3>See but that would make sense because remember ninety four

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<v Speaker 3>to two thousand and four was when we remember your

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<v Speaker 3>family bought a home in Canarsie.

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<v Speaker 1>My family bought a home in Canarsie in nineteen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my parents bought one in eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>So you see what I'm saying. That's what we grew

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<v Speaker 3>up in that culture where our families were buying homes

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<v Speaker 3>at a higher rate. So that's what we became used to,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like new, Like we got a house,

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<v Speaker 3>let's have a barbecue.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Census Bureau released is now the latest

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<v Speaker 2>quarterly report for Q one of twenty twenty four shows

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<v Speaker 2>that The latest home ownership rate is sixty five zero

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<v Speaker 2>point six percent, which is the lowest has been in

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<v Speaker 2>two years, because who can afford anything now anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, let's not discount the world came to a halt

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of covery happening.

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<v Speaker 3>There's still a lot of recovery that's only four years removed,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people lost jobs, a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to their savings depleted. Absolutely, there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>to recover from that that's not going to happen in uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think that's for the year, a decade

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<v Speaker 3>of recovery, considering the fact that you know, we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't stable by any means in twenty twenty. We weren't. Remember,

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<v Speaker 3>we were also going through an election period. So anytime

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<v Speaker 3>you're going through an election and there's a change and

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<v Speaker 3>the powers that be, there's always a lot that goes

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<v Speaker 3>on with the housing markets. We saw that with Obama

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<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and eight, where we were struggling to

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<v Speaker 3>pay all our bills. So you figure election cycle twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>pandemic happens. People were pretty much out of work until

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when things started to kind of mp back up.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we're only two years removed from that, so

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<v Speaker 3>people don't have the extra income to just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>come to my house. These barbecues are expensive. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just me looking at the American Express. Bill

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<v Speaker 3>Kadeen would go like, say we're having a barbecue. Kadean say,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go to Target. First, go to go

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<v Speaker 3>to Target. That's going to be what five hundred dollars, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's not food. The five hundred dollars is to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that there's toilet paper in all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that, just like a lot of cups for all

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<v Speaker 2>of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's we're going to go to there's no Costco

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<v Speaker 1>out here, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there is so Costco Stamps Club, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, bulk shopping when you do the bulk shopping for.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole home stool exactly the hint of maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>public stor crogram random you know things, and maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not the side of the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's twenty five hundred dollars for a day.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a fact that it made costs for you to

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<v Speaker 3>have a barbecue, to have people over.

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<v Speaker 2>Well look at this here the retail costs of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get down to the actual meat of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Retail cost of the a pound of one ground beef

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<v Speaker 2>was one dollar and forty eight cents per pound back

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand, I start back in nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>Today it costs what a whopping five dollars and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five since and that's not even organic beef. So good

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<v Speaker 2>thing you and I find out we're allergic to the

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<v Speaker 2>cow baby because yeah, passer by, passer by. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So many factors that are contributing to it from a

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<v Speaker 2>socio economics standpoint, But like you said, there's probably small

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<v Speaker 2>pockets of people who are still doing absolutely know, these

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<v Speaker 2>cookouts and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are also other factors. Divorce rates, marriage rates.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure exactly what the divorce rate looks like

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<v Speaker 3>amongst Americans now, but I'm pretty sure or not even

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<v Speaker 3>the divorce rate, but the amount of Americans who are

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<v Speaker 3>married by the time they get to thirty has dropped. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So I saw something there. They said lack of family values.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot more people don't lack family values.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just waiting. So now it's like, okay, we have

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<v Speaker 3>a few friends, you know, and even when we look

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<v Speaker 3>at our siblings, right, they're in their thirties now and

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<v Speaker 3>now starting to get serious about finding a mate to

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<v Speaker 3>settle down with and have a family, which also takes time.

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<v Speaker 3>So since people are doing things later, there are a

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<v Speaker 3>lot less children being had, there's a lot less people

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<v Speaker 3>getting married at this time. So whereas when people used

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<v Speaker 3>to get married late teens, early twenties, think about our grandparents.

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<v Speaker 3>Your grandparents got married late teens, mine got married late teens,

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<v Speaker 3>parents got married early twenties, your parents early twenties. As

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<v Speaker 3>those generations start to do things later, So now it's

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<v Speaker 3>like late thirties forties. That's almost like two generations of

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<v Speaker 3>the previous generation. Because they did things teens to twenties,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing things thirties to forties.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's getting pushed everything decade essentially.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost two decades. Think about getting married eighteen nineteen, but

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<v Speaker 3>now you're getting married.

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<v Speaker 2>Threety five compared to our grandparents parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting married in twenty one, twenty two. Now that people

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<v Speaker 3>getting married having kids in their forties.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, also to the family members who we relied on,

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<v Speaker 2>being the cooks, the chief cooks, and bottle washers literally,

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<v Speaker 2>those generations of people are now older. They're like they're

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<v Speaker 2>the elders, you know, some are passing away, like we

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<v Speaker 2>are now the ones who I think essentially have to

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<v Speaker 2>grasp the torch for what's next.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you a question, what is going to

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<v Speaker 3>happen to humanity if we continue to put community and

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<v Speaker 3>love and family values on the back burner for things

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<v Speaker 3>that like matter more like social economics, Like you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying that, Like it seems like, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>world is shifting to a different place where everyone's so

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<v Speaker 3>everyone is about capitalism.

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<v Speaker 2>Capitalism or also self very closed off. I think those

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years that we were dealing with the pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>as well too, just socially, some people haven't recovered from that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even there's a generation, even the generation behind us.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at how they communicate, How they can barely

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation with you without looking down or looking away.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't even look you in the eye to have

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation. Or you get them together and everyone's on

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<v Speaker 2>their phones. You know. I look at the generation below us,

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<v Speaker 2>so like some of our god children who are like

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<v Speaker 2>in their late teens, early twenties, you know, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>growing up now too, and it's like, man, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a struggle to just have struggle to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with them. When they get together, they don't even really

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<v Speaker 2>converse and communicate. So I think a lot of those

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<v Speaker 2>things are still the residual effect that we're feeling from

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<v Speaker 2>having to deal with the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I just thought about this too, Like having

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<v Speaker 3>this conversation often makes me not this conversation, but having conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>but you often make me think about things that I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't thought about. When I was a kid, we had

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<v Speaker 3>a family reunion every other year. I think about who

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<v Speaker 3>was the patriarch in the Zimmerman Ellis family. Every other

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<v Speaker 3>year we would go to Pennsylvania, or we would go

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<v Speaker 3>to Orangeburg, South Carolina, and we would have a family reunion,

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<v Speaker 3>and people from all over the country would come in.

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<v Speaker 1>When's the last time you had a family reunion?

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<v Speaker 2>Kh really to be honesty, grandma's funeral.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the only only time families get.

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<v Speaker 2>Together literally been that. And every time we get to

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<v Speaker 2>these funerals, unfortunate events, it's oh, man, we really have

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<v Speaker 2>to meet under these circumstances. Really got to do better.

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<v Speaker 2>And then life be life in and people go back

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<v Speaker 2>to their their their sides of the ring, and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't essentially happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my moment.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to be super deliberate about that if it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that we want to continue.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my moment of truth, and this is this

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<v Speaker 3>is just for the world, not just for us, like

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<v Speaker 3>us too, but for the world. Like I'm really starting

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<v Speaker 3>to see how older people, I guess, Dank, I'm forty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>so I feel old. How older people when I was

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<v Speaker 3>younger used to used to speak and I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 3>and this old man just be talking and talking, and like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't nobody think like that no more. But now I

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<v Speaker 3>understand them. No, I understand why it's so important and

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<v Speaker 3>why it was important for them to have a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>or a bridge with the younger generation. And now that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a part of that older generation, I see the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of having that bridge. But it doesn't see that

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<v Speaker 3>younger It doesn't seem as if the younger generation is

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<v Speaker 3>interested in having that bridge with us.

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<v Speaker 2>You're absolutely right, you know. When my grandmother passed away,

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<v Speaker 2>even prior to that, one of my aunts on my

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<v Speaker 2>mom's side, she's just like you know, guys, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to Like she's trying to encourage in the family group chat.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a family group chat that's like intergenerational, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's my mom generation, my generation then like the younger folks.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was just like, you know, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>be deliberate about planning some sort of family get together.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you then once a year, like can we please

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<v Speaker 2>just like put a day on the calendar? And everyone

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<v Speaker 2>tried to get together in one space, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're seeing the detriment of the glue, right, essentially, the

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<v Speaker 2>glue of those families now who are passing on. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like who's going to be the next person? And we

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<v Speaker 2>are in that space now where I'm like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind helping to spearhead a reunion. But then it's

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<v Speaker 2>like pulling teeth trying to get the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>family on board. You know, you put stuff in the

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<v Speaker 2>group chat, Hey, y'all this chat, and then people just

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to chat back, you know. But it's like

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<v Speaker 2>how long do you want to put up with that struggle?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why Deval and I make an effort to

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<v Speaker 2>just say, you know what, whoever we're in contact with regularly. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's people who are close by, you know, come on over.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, our kids' friends, come on over. We have

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<v Speaker 2>an open door policy in a sense for that which

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<v Speaker 2>makes things. You know, it feels good. It feels good

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<v Speaker 2>when we get together.

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<v Speaker 3>And something else though, that we didn't even consider. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't had a family reunion in my family in years.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what my father, who's the patriarch of

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<v Speaker 3>our family, does, he plans a trip to go away.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what has changed for Black Americans and Black

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<v Speaker 3>Caribbeans our ability to do things other than just go

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<v Speaker 3>back in the backyard and barbecue. Back in the day,

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<v Speaker 3>that used to be the only escape. But now we

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<v Speaker 3>all get together and we travel out of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>The amount of people who travel now in this country,

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<v Speaker 3>Black Americans and Black Caribbeans has increased. It has increased.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot where I watched it, but more Black people

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<v Speaker 3>now during the summertime are taking their children out of

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<v Speaker 3>the country than they ever did years prior. And when

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<v Speaker 3>I think about my parents, they took us out of

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<v Speaker 3>the country maybe once a year, but we went to

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<v Speaker 3>Canada and we went somewhere close because both My parents worked,

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<v Speaker 3>so there was never a time where they could get

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<v Speaker 3>five or six days off to go anywhere too per far,

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<v Speaker 3>but we would go to the Poconos, which is not

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<v Speaker 3>out of the country, but that was how we traveled.

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<v Speaker 3>As generations of kids learn more things and aspire to

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<v Speaker 3>do more things, our idea of how we want to

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<v Speaker 3>spend our time has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually a pretty good one. I didn't think of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that means that it's not just reduced to barbecue cookout,

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<v Speaker 2>we get together. It's just like, let's get together and travel.

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 2>There are travel pages on Instagram that are dedicated to

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<v Speaker 2>black travel, you know what I mean. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's great. Like a couple people who I know recently

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to were just like, yo, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have a passport, and I'm just like, it's unfathomable for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in twenty twenty four, you're an adult and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a passport. I'm like, yo, get that passport

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<v Speaker 2>and do things and get together playing. There's like even

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<v Speaker 2>group clubs that are travel clubs where it's like someone

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<v Speaker 2>is spearheading the trip. So that's a really good point.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't cool to be the cookout, cook me

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<v Speaker 2>out on a beat somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I just changed.

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<v Speaker 3>I just changed my moment of thought, moment of truth.

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<v Speaker 3>I just changed it because I had a moment of truth.

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<v Speaker 1>And then through speaking the old moment of truth, the

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<v Speaker 1>old moment of.

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<v Speaker 3>Truth is that the first thing was that family values

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<v Speaker 3>are being lost.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my first moment of truth.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like it was going to be cyclical, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, and we watch over time quote unquote, the

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<v Speaker 3>feminist movement was huge. And then while when the feminist

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<v Speaker 3>movement was huge, like in the seventies and it became

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<v Speaker 3>really really big, it seemed like in the eighties, the

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<v Speaker 3>eighties and early nineties it kind of went back to

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<v Speaker 3>like those moms that we aspired to be, like like

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<v Speaker 3>the fresh Prince of bel Airs mom Aunt viv Or

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<v Speaker 3>Claire Huxtable. Right, But then we go to the two

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<v Speaker 3>thousands and it was I'm a boss bitch, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need no man. But now we're going through

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<v Speaker 3>what the soft girl era where girls are like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm tired of being a soft bitch who.

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<v Speaker 2>Fought for the who fought for the right to work

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<v Speaker 2>because we didn't want.

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<v Speaker 3>To right, like the change is now happening, and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like this is going to be just as cyclical

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<v Speaker 3>where it was like, Okay, we were doing barbecues for

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<v Speaker 3>a while, we're doing barbecues for whiles, like let's do

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<v Speaker 3>something else, what's new. And now we're traveling more, we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing different things, and I think it's going to come

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<v Speaker 3>a point where it'll be like, yo, let's go back.

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<v Speaker 1>To doing what brought us all together.

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<v Speaker 3>So my initial moment of truth was that family values

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<v Speaker 3>are being lost and we should all try to get

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<v Speaker 3>back there so that we can, you know, rain our

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<v Speaker 3>kids back in.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my initial, but I changed it now, so

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<v Speaker 1>I got some different.

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<v Speaker 2>You got some different some different heats us. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>funny because one of the questions that I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about too is how people stay connected outside

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<v Speaker 2>of or beyond just hosting lookouts, And that's probably one

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<v Speaker 2>of the ways that people do it as well any

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<v Speaker 2>other different traditions that we're practicing. I'm trying to think like,

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<v Speaker 2>even with our boys, I don't travel, is a big

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<v Speaker 2>thing for us to you know, and still just making

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<v Speaker 2>an effort to get together I think is still super

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<v Speaker 2>important at least enter generationally.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do also notice this parties I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>as many block but that's also because community is lost.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's there's people who live places for years

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<v Speaker 3>and don't know their neighbors. When I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>I knew everybody on my block, every around the corners,

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<v Speaker 3>if it wasn't walking distance, I knew who lived in

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<v Speaker 3>that house, and I knew which kids lived there, and

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<v Speaker 3>I could ring the doorbell and ask if they can

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<v Speaker 3>come outside.

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<v Speaker 2>And we looked forward. I mean every year we looked

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<v Speaker 2>forward to the Black Party. We lived directly across the

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<v Speaker 2>street from our block association leaders, so that's how we

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 2>actually had block associations back then. And you know there

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>were people who had little committee that got together and

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>they had their monthly meetings about what we wanted the

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 2>block to look like and feel like. In the camaraderie events.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Missus Brown. She looked aross the street from us,

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<v Speaker 2>and she would host like Halloween parties and that was

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<v Speaker 2>ways for us to get together as kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look at that. People don't even trick a treat

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<v Speaker 1>like they used to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because it's scariest fuck. Now you can't even

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. You can't even have a block party in

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Knarcia or whatever because you're worried about like gang violence

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>or people driving behind And it was non But it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the same thing in Bedsty.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the same thing in Crown Heights and in

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<v Speaker 3>Flatbush in the nineties and people still went outside.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true. Like the fact that has changed as

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<v Speaker 2>old as you get older.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I think that as you get older

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<v Speaker 3>and you see life happen, it changes your perspective. But

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<v Speaker 3>I personally don't think life is any more dangerous now

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<v Speaker 3>than it was back then. My grandmother used to tell

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<v Speaker 3>me this all the time, right, and shout out to

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<v Speaker 3>my Nanna because she was the most honest person I knew,

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 3>and that she went through Alzheimer's, she started to be

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<v Speaker 3>more honest, and she used to say to us. She

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 3>used to say to me and my father and my

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 3>brother that we just complained about everything.

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, complained about everthing. 'all worried about? Shall worry about that?

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, when I was growing up, we had to

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<v Speaker 3>actually be worried about not getting home because someone could

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<v Speaker 3>be lynched. If there were a group of kids outside

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 3>and they were all black. Living in the Confederate South,

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 3>they had to be concerned about one of them kids

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 3>being grabbed and if that child was grabbed, there was

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>nothing you can do about it. That was a real

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>fear that that that they and they watched people be

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 3>lynched and they were going through things, and they're like,

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 3>now you're complaining about what, And when I think about it,

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 3>it's like, you know what, we don't have to deal

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 3>with those issues. We never lived through a World war,

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 3>we never lived through the Great Depression, Like these are

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>things that my grandmother actually lived through. So she looks

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 3>at us and be like, y'all are complaining about what,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 3>And when I think about.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>It, like you complaining about what you got video games,

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 2>all the things that you need.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to stop making excuses and actually just make

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>things happen. If you want to make it happen, curate

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the life that you want for your kids and your family.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all it's about.

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<v Speaker 2>To The question be who comes to the cookout? Who

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<v Speaker 2>gets invited to the cookout? Is it now based on

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<v Speaker 2>who makes the best tata salad, who grows the mess meat.

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<v Speaker 3>Who don't disturb my piece? That's who comes to the

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<v Speaker 3>freaking cookout? Because I will order applia bowl from from

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<v Speaker 3>Uber eats and be just fine on a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>You are absolutely right. We literally are just like, who

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>can come here and just chill. We don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about hosting too much because we are so having

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 2>to host and be on all the time. I don't

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 2>feel like doing that at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this This episode ends whateven.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode airs in September, so we're getting to the

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<v Speaker 3>end of summertime, that labor daytime. This is when people

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 3>start to have those barbecues because they know that the

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 3>weather is about.

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>To change and they're wrapping up.

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<v Speaker 3>So and then when I think about that and we

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<v Speaker 3>think about who we're gonna invite over here, it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>about a handful of people.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>That's a fact. That's a fact. That's if we invite people,

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>because sometimes we were crowd in itself between us and

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>our kids.

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<v Speaker 3>No, if we go anywhere it's us and four little people,

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 3>then we got to bring help. So it's two parents.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's that right, there is what eight eight of people? Yeah,

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I feel uncomfortable going to people's house. It's with eight people. Sure,

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like, I feel I'm We're

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<v Speaker 3>a old party in the South.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a fact. Party over here, Party over here. All right, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>let's take a quick break and we're gonna move into

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite portion of the show, listen letters, after we

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<v Speaker 2>get into these ads, So stick around. All right, now

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<v Speaker 2>we're back. Let's dive into these listener letters that we

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<v Speaker 2>have for this episode. Hey, Ellis's I have a fiance

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<v Speaker 2>that I adore and we have a daughter together, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's an amazing person, but he's very unreliable.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't depend on him to be on time because

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<v Speaker 2>he's always late by several hours. I can't depend on

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<v Speaker 2>him financially because he's always in a bad situation quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm mostly taking care of our daughter on my own.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>He claims that he just needs time to learn to

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<v Speaker 2>be more financially stable. He just started a full time

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>job after four months of unemployment. But at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting to think it's arrested development. I know we

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>all need transition time, but this is ridiculous. PS. He's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight with four exclamation points. I'm thirty four. We

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>share one child, but there are a total of six

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>children all together from previous relationships. So ya got a

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 2>gang like this overall, I need a partner, and to me,

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>he's more of a dependent. Let me know your thoughts. Yikes,

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<v Speaker 2>arrested development. That was a group back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes, yes, that's what you got reading that.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing she got out of that arrested development.

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Is it everyday people?

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Free day people?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I said that, that was my arrested development.

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 2>That was a really good song, I remember, but I've

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 2>never actually heard the term using a sentence really, so

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, wow, arrested development.

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Let me help this young lady out. This is the

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 3>biggest thing. Right, People don't understand this. We've said this,

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 3>We've done a whole podcast on this. Right, marriage is

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 3>a business. The institution of marriage, when created by people

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 3>by the state, was created for families to share assets

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and to properly create create a place where their assets

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 3>can be extended to their children. That's what people really

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 3>need to understand, Like, why does a woman take a

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 3>man's name? Why does this have to happen this? Why

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>are their laws generated around the institution of marriage that

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 3>require taxes? And it's because it's a business. And if

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 3>you try to separate that part of marriage and ignore it,

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 3>because the business aspect is important, you will find yourself

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 3>in an unhappily in an unhappy marriage and can enter

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 3>your doom.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's true. The number one reason why people

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>have issues this financial stuff. So, as my mom said,

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>love can't pay the bills.

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not gonna you know, people talk about this

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>all the time.

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 3>When institutional marriage was created by God, yes it was,

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 3>but so it was bills. Bills was created by God,

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.959
<v Speaker 3>and those bills have to be paid by the people

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 3>who are married together. So God didn't expect us to

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 3>just get into a marriage and just ignore the fact

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 3>that there are real life, true responsibilities. The fact that

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 3>they're engaged and not married yet means they need to

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 3>utilize this time as fiances to figure out how to

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 3>get into a better financial space so they can exist

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 3>together and be life partners together, not life dependents.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's the plan? That's what I will ultimately like

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 2>when I read this, I'm like, Okay, what is the plan?

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Are you guys having the discussion about what is the

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 2>week to week plan, what is the month to month plan,

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 2>what is the year to year plan? What's five years

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 2>from now going to look like? Because she said he

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>just started a full time job after four months of unemployment?

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Was it four months of unemployment after having another job

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>that he was dismissed from or left or whatever for

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason? But is he holding down a job? Is

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 2>it something that's lucrative? Is it something that's buildable? Does

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>it have some kind of latitude? Will be able to

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>will he be able to move, you know, up in

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the company or the job, Like, those are things that

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>need to be discussed.

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I hear all of that, kay, But this is what also,

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 3>people need to start having this conversation. What do you

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 3>require in life from your partner and what do you

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 3>require from me? Those are conversations that people are not

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 3>having when we hear these these stories. I'll have a fiance,

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 3>but he not doing this, so she's not doing that.

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 3>It's like, how did y'all get to the engagement part

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 3>without having that conversation in the dating process that sounds

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 3>like this and it may be a little bit upfront,

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 3>but this is the truth.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm deval, I'm looking to date deliberately.

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I feel like in the next couple of years I

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 3>would like to start a family, possibly a family of four.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 3>The sex of the children doesn't matter, but possibly a

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 3>family of four. This is my credit score. This is

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 3>how much money I earn. What's your credit score? What

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 3>does your life look like as an earner and a

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 3>mo If you want to have children? I like to

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 3>have sex? This many times a week? How many times

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 3>a week do you like to have sex? Do you like?

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 3>These are now? Four? Yes?

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Because I would want to put it all on the

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 3>table and let it be like, this is what I need,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 3>this is what I require. Please let me know what

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 3>you need and what you require so that we can

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 3>sit down and say, hey, we our life works and

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 3>synergies where we can build something together.

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.839
<v Speaker 2>We're looking for similar things. I'm looking for someone who

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>can help facilitate these things. And yeah, I want to

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.720
<v Speaker 2>be that willing participant to help you facilitate those things

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 2>in life.

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 3>And on top of that, I'm attracted to you. You

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 3>attracted to me. Let's fuck while we do this. That's

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 3>what relationships are, right, what we did. We're business partners

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 3>that are creating a union together and creating a lifestyle

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 3>that we can live office together, and we're going to

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 3>enjoy each other's company and bodies together. Because that's the

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 3>safest way for us to explore our sexual exploits and

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 3>build together by doing it just us too.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what dating should be.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>That's not everybody happy.

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 3>And it would be that way if more people approached

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.399
<v Speaker 3>it that way, But people don't approach.

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 2>It that way because mirrors facades and what can I

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>get for myself right now in this moment.

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 3>And they're afraid to say, well, if I come across

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 3>like that, then that person may get afraid. Well, then

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 3>that's not that's not the person for you. Then, Like

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 3>if you come across like that and that personality is

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 3>too much, and it's like, okay, well if you think

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 3>that's too much, you not the type of person that

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to build a life with anyone less.

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, if I'm too much, go find less.

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 3>That's the truth.

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's that's a good point you made, because

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like, how do we get here? How is he

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 2>a fiance when.

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>He's doing all these things and they already have a child.

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And she didn't say how long they were together yet,

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 2>but they do cheer one child together.

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 3>And six totals, so they like fucking both of them,

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So it's clear that they're

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 3>infatuated with each other, which is great. But since you

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:51.240
<v Speaker 3>are infatuated, let's sit down and carve out the adult

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 3>part of this.

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, people just be out here doing shit. Y'll

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 2>just be doing stuff and not really like thinking about it,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>like really thinking it through.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 3>And the truth is, since we've been talking about generations,

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 3>who and our generations told us to do this, nobody

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Because there was no man in my life who told

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 3>me how to approach this like this, and.

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>There's no woman in your life.

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 3>So we can't even blame people for living like this

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 3>because no one is telling you how to do it.

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Welcome today's podcast, y'all, where we're trying to give y'all.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>We're trying to give y'all tea y'all game. You know

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. That's a fact, So good luck to you, says,

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Go back and have these conversations to reassess if this

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>really should be your husband fact or not. All right,

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 2>all right, question number two, you want to read this one? Baby?

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<v Speaker 3>I got you baby. Hello, Kadeen and Duval. I am

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 3>a Patreon supporter and came to your live podcast in

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 3>atl and have grown to love y'all, more and more

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 3>each day.

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Patre.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 3>God has truly placed a heavy purpose on your lives,

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 3>and you all are walking in it daily and helping others.

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 3>You didn't even know you were helping you for so much. Man,

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 3>My question is regarding keeping the spark in relationship, especially

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 3>when you've been together for a long time, but also

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 3>when health issues are involved. Me and my husband have

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 3>been together for seventeen years, married ten and have three

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:02.959
<v Speaker 3>wonderful kids.

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>God bless you guys.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 3>For the past year, I have struggled with being happy

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 3>in the bedroom and sex in all aspects have changed

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 3>for me. I'm not really into sex anymore or it's

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 3>quick and don't get me wrong, I love a quickie

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 3>as long as it's good and we both get off well.

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 3>My husband can't maintain a strong heart on he has diabetes.

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Who already know what this is? I could tell you

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 3>what this is. We've been talking about. He has diabetes

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 3>and is now struggling with ed I think, but he

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 3>has not gone to the doctor to confirm what it

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 3>is and always comes up with excuses on why he

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 3>couldn't stay hard, even when using viagra. It has become

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 3>annoying and a turnoff to the point where us having

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 3>sex every day has turned into once or twice a month.

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Maybe my question to Kadeen is, with Deval having a

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 3>high sex drive from the beginning, how did you match that?

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Was it something you learned and adapted as y'all grew

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 3>or did you have the same sex drive as him?

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Deval and Kadeen, If there were ever any issues with

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 3>sex in your marriage, how did y'all come to a

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 3>conclusion or resolution together? I need help as I love

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 3>my husband and I don't want this to be a

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 3>big issue or in our marriage, but he has to.

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh but he too has to want to make the

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 3>right changes in effort to cure his ed. If that

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 3>is indeed what it is your advice please?

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, anybody who's been listening knows that we've had

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 2>our fear share when it gives to sex issues.

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 3>But our issues with sex issues were never frequency and

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 3>they were never quality of sex. It was always how

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 3>we get to sex and what the sex would look like.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 3>But I will say this though, about what she's talking

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 3>about from a health standpoint. As men get older, right,

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 3>and we continue throughout life eating shit, not working out,

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 3>not taking.

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Care of our bodies.

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I know you're going to go there.

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:50.720
<v Speaker 3>You said he's diabetic. Diabetic diabetes affects your blood sugar.

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 3>It also affects your blood flow. If you don't work

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 3>out and you have to take medication for your diabetes,

0:40:56.000 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 3>that medication can often affect your erections. The best way

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.919
<v Speaker 3>for him to cure the ED would be to exercise

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and to eat healthier. What helped me over the past year.

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 3>If you guys have been watching, my body has changed,

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 3>my face has changed. I've lost weight, I've gained muscle.

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 3>I stop eating as much dairy, right, And when I

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 3>say stop eating as much, I am not a vegan.

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I never just stop things cold turkey.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I changed my lifestyle, which means before when I used

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 3>to eat bacon, egg and cheese every morning, or bacon

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 3>eggs and grits, or bacon eggs and fringe toes. Now

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 3>it's I'll have a fruit plate, a fruit platter, or

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 3>I'll having a sye bowl, which is no dairy. Dairy

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 3>eliminates your body from inflammation. Inflammation causes your back to

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 3>hurt your needs joints. When you become inflamed, you can't

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 3>move and work out. So now you can't move and

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 3>work out. Over all of the years of inflammation, you

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 3>just feel like I can't the workouts I used to do,

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 3>I can't do. So now you no longer pushing your

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 3>body the way your body used to be pushed. When

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 3>you don't push your body as a man, you know

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>what drops testosterone. That's why when people say why is

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 3>niggat de vous still squatting and deadlifting and hang cleaning

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 3>like he's in the NFL.

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.720
<v Speaker 2>And hanging on to me like That's exactly.

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:12.240
<v Speaker 3>Why, because I understand as a man, her sexual peak

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 3>hasn't gotten here yet. I want to be prepared that

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 3>when you see what you see eye, I want to

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 3>be prepared for when that happens. Because I put a

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of pressure on my wife to be there for

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 3>what I needed from our twenties to thirties. It's only

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 3>fair for me as a man to prepare my body

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 3>that I can maintain this when.

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 1>She's going through her sexual peak.

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 3>So when she's tapping my shoulder in the middle of

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 3>the night, I don't want to have to be like damn,

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 3>like am I ain't work out in two weeks. I

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 3>just had twelve oreos. I've been eating all these pork rods. No,

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I want to be like, Yeah, I had a syeball,

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 3>I have my ginger shots. Turn around as wood. He

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 3>is ready for you, like, And to be honest, this

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 3>is conversation.

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Been welcome to the fourth floor.

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is the conversation's men are not having with

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 3>each other.

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>And holding each other accountable too. Because you definitely have

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>a strong group of friends, you're all like, be like, bro,

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 2>you need to get it together. Yep, you need to

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 2>get on this. And I've been doing the same thing

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 2>with my girls. Like you know, we talked about in

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 2>previous podcasts how hormonally things were off for me for

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 2>a long time. So to answer your question, having a

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>sex high drive for a high sex drive from deval,

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I was never able to match it. I feel like

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm still technically not really able to match it either.

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>But having read my body of certain foods that I

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 2>know were inflammatory, having rid my body of any kind

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 2>of birth control or hormonal you know, things that made

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 2>things either escalate or de escalate drastically, that has definitely

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:37.439
<v Speaker 2>been a good start for me to kind of get

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 2>back to the baseline of like where do I where

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>am I hormonally how does it make me feel? And

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I've been feeling great, so though I know sometimes we

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 2>have to meet at this kind of middle ground because

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Devo says, you know, shoot, I can have sex several

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 2>times a day and I would be satisfied. And I'm like, okay,

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm good with like four times a week. You know

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So someone's always having to like sacrifice

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 3>But can we talk about though the differences Like this

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 3>may be a little bit explicit, but it's dead ass podcast. Right.

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.839
<v Speaker 3>This is the mindset for me and Kadeen. Kadeen and

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen each other for a week. I'm filming.

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 3>She's some way doing something right. We get together, We

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 3>have sex. We going at it thirty minutes like athletes.

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 3>We doing every position. We go on our bone to bang.

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 3>We both climax, Oh, it's amazing. Kadeen's first thought process is, oh,

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 3>just climax. I'm so good. I'm good right.

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 1>My first thought process, I'm climax.

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 3>I want to experience that again, like again, right now.

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's the difference in two people who have

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 3>been sexually pleased. But her body is built different than

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 3>my body, and as you get older and you learn

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 3>to have empathy for other people and realize that the

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 3>world isn't just, you know, created around what you need

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 3>and you desire. You start to understand like, you know

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 3>what my partner needs this while I need that, And

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 3>we have those constant conversations even now. So the difference

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 3>is we don't complain about our sex life no more

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 3>because we're able to. For example, like last week, I

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 3>was in a little bit of a bad mood because

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 3>then comes downstairs in gym and she goes, I get it.

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 3>We didn't have sex two days because you left and

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 3>then you came back and then I fell asleep. I

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 3>got you tonight and I was like, no, it wasn't

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 3>just about the sex, but I mean, like I also

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 3>didn't get to see my wife, like we weren't intimate.

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.959
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get to hug you up and squeeze them cheek.

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 3>You don't do well when I don't have intimacy in

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 3>my life. And I don't know if this is a

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of men, but this is me. If this woman

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 3>walks by me in a hall and she don't toop

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 3>that butt up for me to smack it, or she

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 3>don't rub by me, or she don't just come kiss me.

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I start to feel away. I just start to feel away.

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 3>And then once I start to feel away and a

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 3>day goes by and she's not just hey, baby, how

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:48.280
<v Speaker 3>you doing Now, I'm in a bad.

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 2>Mood, bad mood.

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 3>And then even when we have sex, I'm still in

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 3>a bad movie.

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Like you just nodded, we recover from this. I'm like

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I thought I knew what it was. But it's also

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>like being so in sync with each other now that

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:03.879
<v Speaker 2>we just know, like we know what those triggers are,

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 2>we know what those moments are, and I can decide

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 2>for when Diva, I was just like you know, in

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>a bad move because like something may have happened, or

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>just like work or anxiety or like all the things

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 2>of life happening in his brain. Or it's just like, oh,

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>he just misses me and he's trying to pick a fight.

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>But also I don't let you, but no, you don't

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 1>let me pick the fight so much.

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 3>But also she also doesn't run from It's gonna sound crazy,

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 3>but she also doesn't run from what her responsibilities are

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 3>as my wife, the same way I don't run from

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 3>my responsibilities. Last night, we're preparing. You know, we're preparing

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 3>the film and I have a thousand things going on.

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 3>She sees that I'm more in cloud nine. I haven't

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 3>been smoking.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't really cloud and I you weren't like in

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 2>a good place.

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't in a good place at all.

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 3>But I haven't been smoking either, and I've been traveling

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot, so she knows. And she was just like,

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 3>she comes over to me, she rubs my lap, she

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 3>looks at me. She said, you need me to take

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 3>care of something. And I was just like, I was like, nah,

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 3>I got everything because I'm not even focused on what

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 3>she's saying. I'm reading my scripts and she's like, hey, hey,

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.240
<v Speaker 3>let me handle that no real quick. When we slobed

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 3>and I started laughing at her, and she's just and

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, yes, though I need it.

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 2>But actually when it clicked.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 3>But what I was trying to say, but seriously, when

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 3>people ask like, how do you guys keep the fire?

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 3>We keep the fire by knowing my partner, looking at her,

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.760
<v Speaker 3>her looking at me, and saying my partner needs something,

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 3>like what's going on. We don't ignore the fact that

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 3>my partner is here. And sometimes that moment isn't well,

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna do it later with no It's like baby

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 3>coming here real quick, let me take care of It's

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 3>real for you because I see you. You know what I'm

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:32.839
<v Speaker 3>saying like this, It's those impromptu times where we take

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:33.800
<v Speaker 3>care of each other. You know.

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 2>What I've also been deliberate about now, too, is maintaining

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 2>and creating a safe space for you to say how

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.879
<v Speaker 2>you feel. And I want to encourage this young lady

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 2>to do that with her husband as well too, because

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 2>something like ed I can imagine. I'm not a man,

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 2>but I can imagine it's something that is sensitive, could

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 2>be a sensitive topic.

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Sensitive, but sensitive? Did you say sensitive?

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:54.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't even think there's a word that you can

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.399
<v Speaker 3>use to describe what men go.

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 2>To them embarrassing. You know, it's not something that you

0:47:58.800 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>would be proud of.

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>That's or it almost like I would say, I would

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 3>equate it to a woman's ability to have children. If

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 3>someone takes that away from you, now you can no

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 3>longer have true you know how you feel like, damn,

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 3>what is my purpose? Or feels I feel less than

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 3>for a man, it's like to have an erection to

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 3>be able to impregnate a woman is part of what

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 3>makes you a man, and when that part of your

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 3>body doesn't work, especially with everything in the world telling you,

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, your manhood is predicated on how many women

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 3>you can do.

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>And how big you are and how long you last.

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 3>If you can't get an erection, and even when you do,

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 3>you can't get a full erection, and it's I won't

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 3>even say embarrassing, it's like life threaten and you feel

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 3>like I am not myself. That's why there's no word

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:45.879
<v Speaker 3>that I can say.

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 2>They've been together seventeen years, married ten three children, so

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 2>it's like they're people who used.

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 3>To get they.

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Used to get it in. So it could be also

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:55.320
<v Speaker 2>that he's in denial about the whole diabetes thing like that.

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like getting to the root of the problem

0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>would definitely help you guys outside. I would encourage you

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 2>sis to, you know, create a safe space to have

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 2>that gentle conversation with him because it is a sensitive topic.

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Also, blood pressure medication. Most blood pressure medications affect men

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:12.399
<v Speaker 3>down there. That's why a lot of black men don't

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 3>like to go to the doctor and they don't like

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 3>to be on that medication. I lost one of my

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 3>uncles that way, right, his high blood pressure, high blood pressure,

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to take his medication because he wasn't able

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:23.279
<v Speaker 3>to do the things he wanted to do with His

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 3>wife went to sleep one night and died, and when

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 3>she woke up, she was so mad. She said, I

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 3>can't believe you left me. You left me because you

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't He went and went in that cabinet and saw

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 3>all those pills in that bottom and say he wasn't

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 3>taking his medication. And it's a scary thing for men.

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 3>There's something that we have to learn how to be

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 3>proactive and not reacting, and it's something that.

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Could be so basic. Like even my dad has high

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 2>blood pressure and he takes medication for it. And he

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 2>got in some blood work back that show that he

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 2>needed to drink more water. He was dehydrated and he's

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 2>been drinking a gallon of water a day. The boys

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 2>have literally been on him. We got him a jug.

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 2>They wrote Papa on it.

0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you the in his tail about

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:01.760
<v Speaker 2>drinking his water. Didn't drink your water, hopper. Three o'clock,

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:03.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just three o'clock, and it's five o'clock. And you

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't drink your water, but he was. He was on it,

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 2>drinking the water daily. And he was like, you believe

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I checked my blood pressure the past three days and

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to take.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:12.919
<v Speaker 1>My medication, not one time.

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:14.800
<v Speaker 3>And he's seventy.

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 2>That is seventy one, seventy one. And he looked, he

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 2>was so surprised, and I was like, see something as

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.919
<v Speaker 2>simple as taking care of yourself and drinking water water.

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 3>He started walking twenty minutes on the treadmill, right, he

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 3>started changing, you know, his diet and the things that

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 3>he was eating.

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>And this is what we are employing for a lot

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of men.

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 3>This is this is one thing my ministry is going

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 3>to be for the rest of my life, is that

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 3>all of the things that we were told about our

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 3>health and then being hereditary is not true.

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>It's cultural.

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Black people are more predisposed to certain things because

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:46.879
<v Speaker 3>in our culture we eat certain things.

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 2>The cookout.

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 3>What we were just talking about, the cookout soul food.

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 3>The Boondocks did a parody are on soul Food and

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 3>said that man, you watch soul food. Man, Big Mama

0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 3>died from the same thing that we keep eating. And

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.839
<v Speaker 3>an app she died they made a dinner and they

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 3>ate the same things that killed Big Mama, which was

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:08.359
<v Speaker 3>so true though like she died of diabetes, she died

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 3>from complications of diabetes from eating all of this super

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 3>enriched sugar and salty food. And for people who understand history,

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 3>the reason why our food has always been enriched with

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 3>sugars and salt is because the enslaved people were always

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 3>giving scraps. And when you're giving scraps, in order to

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 3>be able to get through it things to it, you

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 3>add sugar. My parents are from the South. We used

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 3>to make a sauce called mopping. Mopping was ketchup, mustard, garlic, powder,

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 3>onion powder, salt, pepper, sugar, and vinegar and they would

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 3>put mopping.

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>On ris and they would dip it in chitlings.

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I remember the first time I think it was on

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 2>your father gave it.

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<v Speaker 3>But then when you look at just ketchup alone, three

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<v Speaker 3>tablespools of ketchup is more sugar than a crispy cream donut.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you have a half a gallon of ketchup

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<v Speaker 3>mixed with mustard, and you put more sugar in that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what we use to baste all of our

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<v Speaker 3>meats in Yeah, and now we ingest that for from

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<v Speaker 3>the time where young kids twenties, thirties, Yeah, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have diabetes, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Now not working out either exactly and not working out,

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<v Speaker 2>just pricing the fact that we're not taking care of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the truth of the matter is the enslaved people

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<v Speaker 3>could eat like that because they will be making in

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<v Speaker 3>the field. Oh my god, so their bodies all they did,

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<v Speaker 3>they burn that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why when you look back on that generation and

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<v Speaker 2>people live until eighty ninety years, oh yeah, because they

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<v Speaker 2>were working.

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<v Speaker 3>They're working.

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<v Speaker 2>They were working. So good luck to you, sis. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you and hope you get to the root of yah.

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<v Speaker 3>Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening? Y'all got this? Seventeen years together, a ten married,

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<v Speaker 2>three beautiful children. Congrats to you, guys, and I wish

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<v Speaker 2>you find a solution. All right. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>from you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's D E A D A S S A D

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<v Speaker 3>V I C E at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, now, moment of true time, we're talking where

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<v Speaker 2>did the cookouts go? Where are the cultural family traditions?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they becoming obsolete?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? First of all, fuck the moment of truth and

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<v Speaker 3>what I was gonna say, I'm gonna take this opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>right now to give you your flowers me. Yes, because

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<v Speaker 3>I've been filming, I've been going a lot, and you've

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<v Speaker 3>been running dead ass podcast like a freaking pro Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been killing it. You've been getting guests, You've been

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<v Speaker 3>like even even today. This is for those who don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We do a lot of shows sometimes and one day

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<v Speaker 3>because of our filming schedule, and this is the third

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<v Speaker 3>show we have to do today, and you're here just

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<v Speaker 3>as energetic and vibrant, and you had shows to do

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday and you were an energetic and vibrant in them

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<v Speaker 3>shows yesterday, and baby, I just love you for holding

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<v Speaker 3>it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's moment of truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Thank you so much. Thank you, and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for always you know, freaking pouring into me

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<v Speaker 2>and just letting me know like you pour into you

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<v Speaker 2>in so many ways and I receive it.

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<v Speaker 1>You always received.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, like this is really giving me a space to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like rework that muscle, like y'all went to

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<v Speaker 2>school for journalism. Haven't used that degree technically, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't kind of used it in podcasts and whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but just not as a solo you know mission. So

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<v Speaker 2>thank you and to the team also for like really

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<v Speaker 2>just speaking that life to me. And thank y'all for

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<v Speaker 2>listening and cheering me on as well, and people saying, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see you with your day time shall show

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<v Speaker 2>girl time talking about so I appreciate that. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>and I love you and uh yeah, so my mom

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<v Speaker 2>went to truth. I don't even remember what it was

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<v Speaker 2>now because you got me all my feelings. But talking

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<v Speaker 2>about cultural traditions and all that good stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just keep on keeping on for the sake of

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<v Speaker 2>our children. We do want them to have a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of community, a sense of family, a sense of what

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<v Speaker 2>it means to get back to the root, where there's

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<v Speaker 2>safe spaces are where they can just lo that they

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<v Speaker 2>can get together, they can congregate with their friends and

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<v Speaker 2>with their cousins and with family members, and it's okay

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<v Speaker 2>to create what your own family looks like now too.

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<v Speaker 2>Write making sure that that safe space and that tradition

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<v Speaker 2>and that you know, cookout or whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 2>That trip is surrounded with people who will love on

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<v Speaker 2>and recharge your battery and not drain it. Okay, okay,

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