Speaker 1: Bulet keV Show. We got DJ Drama in here. Welcome
Speaker 1: way to start. It's been a long time in the making. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I went to Atlanta during the pandemic and
Speaker 1: we kind of did like a little generation now yep,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you being here, Yeah, it's about fucking time.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been stalking you. It felt, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: never that. I mean, you're my guy, like Yo Drama,
Speaker 1: when you're coming on the fucking show, you're in LA
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, it has, and I have been
Speaker 1: putting it off for some time. But I have reason
Speaker 1: to be here. I got a fucking new album, new album.
Speaker 1: I wanted to you know what I mean. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be I wanted to be timely and I knew
Speaker 1: a conversation with you is you know significant. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying for sure? Why I do say. DJ
Speaker 1: Drama is the greatest hip hop DJ of all time.
Speaker 1: It's big, the greatest of all time. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's scratching and fucking transforming and shit, but you're the greatest.
Speaker 1: Go so hold on. Let me thank you first of all.
Speaker 1: So if they're making a for fifty years of hip
Speaker 1: and they make a DJ list, like of the greatest
Speaker 1: DJs in fifty years, you're putting me, I don't even
Speaker 1: think it's a discussion. Wow, I mean it would be
Speaker 1: hard for me to agree, humbly. I would like to
Speaker 1: be in the top five. But if we're talking fifty years,
Speaker 1: were talking Jazzy Jeff, we talking no, no no, no, no, Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about listen because Jazzy Jeff probably like, like,
Speaker 1: there's guys who are really good at DJing, Yeah, party rockers,
Speaker 1: fucking I mean, we can go on and there's like
Speaker 1: some but I just think when I think of like
Speaker 1: your cultural impact on the last twenty years of rap music,
Speaker 1: it is literally not even a discussion. Nobody has ever
Speaker 1: impacted hip hop culture as a DJ the way you have.
Speaker 1: And I don't even think and like, listen, you can
Speaker 1: go back to cool Herk. We'll cool Herk a DJ
Speaker 1: or rapper. He was a DJ Okay, so we kind
Speaker 1: of started it. Yeah, but I'm talking about bro. I'm
Speaker 1: fucking thirty six. So when I was coming up, it
Speaker 1: was funk flex. I had like the sixty minutes of
Speaker 1: funk shit. I was getting DJ clue tapes and then
Speaker 1: when I started bootlegging shit and selling shit at the
Speaker 1: swat Me. It was like all gangster grill shit. But
Speaker 1: we're talking about your fingerprints are all over it all
Speaker 1: Jeezy Wayne for Rell, Gucci. You just want to fucking
Speaker 1: Grammy with Tyler the Creator. Broh, you put a you
Speaker 1: want to Grammy with a gangster grills? What are we
Speaker 1: talking about? A gangster grills want to Grammy? I've done
Speaker 1: some shit, man. I'm really like that. I really think that,
Speaker 1: like people can say what they want, Like I mean people,
Speaker 1: There's been even artists. There's been a guy like listen.
Speaker 1: DJ Khaled for sure has put out bigger songs than
Speaker 1: you as an artist, right right, But like I forget
Speaker 1: the name of the Little Wayne DJ Khalid tape, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't that big of a deal. It had had
Speaker 1: a gem on there though, But you remember which tape
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Yeah, it was called the Fuck the
Speaker 1: Reap or the six the Suffix six six, yeah, the suffix.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about the Dedication shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about dedication. We're talking you just like I mean,
Speaker 1: even like she like Little Brothers, Gangsta Grill, just so
Speaker 1: many like your fingerprints are everywhere, Like you just told
Speaker 1: me a story about your first tape with Gucci? Were
Speaker 1: you removed Nicki Minaja's verse because she wasn't popping yet?
Speaker 1: Oh God, why are we talking about this? Nikki? I apologize?
Speaker 1: So what happened? Me and Gucci's first actual gangster girls?
Speaker 1: We actually did one with Yogatti first. It was called
Speaker 1: Definition of a g That was the first tape me
Speaker 1: and Gucci had did together. It was collaboration Gotti, Gucci
Speaker 1: and me. The first official Gucci man Gangster Grills was
Speaker 1: called the Movie. And when he brought it to me,
Speaker 1: the first song that was for the tape, the first
Speaker 1: voice you heard on the on the tape was Nicki Minaj.
Speaker 1: Obviously this is an early Nicki Minaj and disrespectfully, you know,
Speaker 1: I felt like we can't have a gangst of girls
Speaker 1: with me and Gucci and the first voice you hear
Speaker 1: not be Gucci, So I removed her her verse from
Speaker 1: that song. I feel terrible to this day. Did she
Speaker 1: did she know it was your decision? I don't know
Speaker 1: she she may know now, But in defense, I will
Speaker 1: say that I made sure out of everyone that Nicki
Speaker 1: Minaj was on Dedication three because Nicki Minaj was about
Speaker 1: to get left off of Dedication three. She was calling
Speaker 1: me directly, say Drum please, don't won't let the tape
Speaker 1: come out without me on there, And I said, I
Speaker 1: got you. So Nicki Minaj is on Dedication three directly
Speaker 1: because I made sure she was on there, so you
Speaker 1: got it. It came back. I'm trying to make it up.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to, you know, did anyone ever hear the
Speaker 1: Nikki verse that you remember? Did you ever use it
Speaker 1: anywhere else? Did that? I don't. I really don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever came from that. We'd have to
Speaker 1: probably ask Gucci, do you still have like your og
Speaker 1: email access? I wish I had a gangster grills dot
Speaker 1: Com Gmail that it was probably just some shit in there,
Speaker 1: probably so crazy. I used to get these fucking beats
Speaker 1: from this like random email from like it was like
Speaker 1: a boy idea or something like. I was like, who
Speaker 1: is this boy idea sending me all these beats like
Speaker 1: in like oh five oh six used to flood my
Speaker 1: email because you know how to pronounce the names weird
Speaker 1: name and now looking wanted to I've told him that
Speaker 1: I've definitely we've talked about that like shit was crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I just think about like even the last two
Speaker 1: or three years, the research, Like if you think about it,
Speaker 1: we went through this weird cycle where the blogs would
Speaker 1: drop the no DJ version of mixtapes as well as
Speaker 1: the DJ versions of mixtapes, and I remember you having
Speaker 1: an issue with that and I felt used, yeah, because
Speaker 1: they would use the Gangster Grills brand, yeah to like
Speaker 1: launch it and then like a week later and it
Speaker 1: would drop like a no DJ version without your shit
Speaker 1: on it, Like what the fuck? But now we like
Speaker 1: kind of like came back around. Now everybody is getting
Speaker 1: the Gangster Grills and they're dropping them on DSPs, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, shout out to Geeperico. You guys just dropped
Speaker 1: that one. There was a day recently where I feel
Speaker 1: like you had three tapes come out on one day,
Speaker 1: and one day I dropped GZ Snowfall Snoop an NBA
Speaker 1: Young Boy. That was crazy, Like I was like on that.
Speaker 1: That was like right after I won DJ of the
Speaker 1: Year or two at the Hip Hop Awards. I was like, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I'm coming for the next Year's a word,
Speaker 1: how like how much do you feel like because if
Speaker 1: people don't know you're also you Lake and Don have
Speaker 1: cultivated a label called Generation Now that has two of
Speaker 1: the biggest superstars in hip hop period at the moment,
Speaker 1: Jack Harlan little uzzy. Yes, so you've obviously been busy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've been putting. You've also put out records. You've been
Speaker 1: you've been listening. It's like you never went anywhere. But
Speaker 1: do you feel like the Tyler album sparked the Gangster
Speaker 1: Grills resurgence? Thousand thousand percent. Gotta gotta tip your head
Speaker 1: off to you know, I saw something and say, like,
Speaker 1: of all people, who would have thought Tyler creator, who
Speaker 1: if people have called a weirdo for thus long, would
Speaker 1: bring gangster Grills back to life? Like yeah, I mean one,
Speaker 1: just the ingenious idea of him, of the concept of
Speaker 1: him making his album a Gangster Girls and utilizing me
Speaker 1: the way it did. And two obviously us winning a Grammy,
Speaker 1: Like come on, you can't you can't deny like Tyler
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with it. And I still
Speaker 1: think that that, Like, you know, just even recently I
Speaker 1: saw like Benny and Westside Gun make some references like yo,
Speaker 1: we got drama out of his executive bag. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: even before Tyler, I had I had you, I had
Speaker 1: tod be a ship. I did some Ship on Guns projects,
Speaker 1: so you know, there were some other projects you know,
Speaker 1: out there. So I think like there, you know, clearly,
Speaker 1: like as a brand, Gangster Girls was still strong. But
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the the response and just what
Speaker 1: Tyler's album did, like really, that's we have a lot
Speaker 1: to thank for that for sure, like or even a
Speaker 1: jeezy Snowfall like that was in the works, by the way,
Speaker 1: the best g Z album. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: we're taking ten years sometime, it's been it's been a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were in New York riding around listening in that ship.
Speaker 1: When it came out, I was like, god, damn Jesu
Speaker 1: back on his ship. Yeah, nah, I had that feel.
Speaker 1: And then you guys are doing the shows together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was fun. That was that was dope. That was
Speaker 1: a good time. So when Tyler hits you up, because
Speaker 1: obviously you're you're you're extremely culturally aware, I don't like
Speaker 1: I feel like some people might think, oh, DJ Drama
Speaker 1: just knows what was popping in the strip club whatever,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, what's up, So like Tyler reaches
Speaker 1: out to you. I'm sure you know how big this
Speaker 1: can be because Igor was huge. Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: without question. I mean I remember, you know, because we
Speaker 1: started it in twenty twenty during the pandemic. So I
Speaker 1: was doing like zoom interviews and calls, and I knew
Speaker 1: it was it was coming, and like you know, obviously
Speaker 1: I couldn't talk about it, but I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I got some big shit coming. No. I think during
Speaker 1: our interview you were like alluded to something coming, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can talk. I couldn't talk about it. But
Speaker 1: Lake even the session that he came to Lake. Lake
Speaker 1: came to the second session we did. We did like
Speaker 1: three or four. His first was the second session, and
Speaker 1: when he heard the music like off top, he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: your niggas going want to grammy for this, Like he
Speaker 1: said it just playing in simple, clear as day, like
Speaker 1: your niggas going want to grammy? And like he called it,
Speaker 1: are the songs already done? And then you get brought
Speaker 1: in to like collaborate with him on like the shit
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, like what's that process? Like album's done?
Speaker 1: And then you come in after or are you like
Speaker 1: in there when he's recording any verses Like, yeah, for
Speaker 1: the most part, it was done. I mean, Tyler's so
Speaker 1: genius and creative, like he had already even when he
Speaker 1: first came up with the idea, he had taken random
Speaker 1: DJ drama vocals from like another project and they put
Speaker 1: him on there, placed it on like where he thought
Speaker 1: I should talk or what it would sound like, just
Speaker 1: so he could hear it, and then like you know,
Speaker 1: we we vibed a lot, like we sat in the
Speaker 1: studio and talked and just talked music and you know,
Speaker 1: vision and things like that. He told me, you know
Speaker 1: what his what the concept and where he wanted to
Speaker 1: go and just about life the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: And you know that's literally how I like to work too,
Speaker 1: like a lot of you know what I what I
Speaker 1: like to say on projects or you know, the direction
Speaker 1: I go. I like to work off of you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's an art in its
Speaker 1: own sense, so you know, I work off of inspiration.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I would go into booth and I
Speaker 1: would I would say some ship and play around and
Speaker 1: then he would like kind of like be like yo,
Speaker 1: like say like I'm on the boat and I'd be
Speaker 1: like a boat, like, oh my god's frock crazy and
Speaker 1: like you know, talk about like having my toes out
Speaker 1: and shit like that. So you know, he was that.
Speaker 1: That was one that you know, a lot of times
Speaker 1: when I do tapes, I normally like to do them
Speaker 1: in my own zone. But obviously it was like collaborative,
Speaker 1: very collaborative. And but you know, I mean he's a
Speaker 1: he's a one man army, so you know, production like everything,
Speaker 1: he does it all. So a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of it he had had done, but then during the
Speaker 1: session some of the music changed. But even while I
Speaker 1: was in there, he was still kind of like working
Speaker 1: on production and you know, going in and things like that.
Speaker 1: It's crazy too, because one of your more underappreciated projects
Speaker 1: was the one with Pharreal. It's like kind of a
Speaker 1: cult classic, but that kind of ended up being like
Speaker 1: the there's no call me if you get lost, if
Speaker 1: there's no far Real tape. Yeah, but it's but you know,
Speaker 1: to me or in my travels, like the way Dedication
Speaker 1: and Trapp or Die is to certain people, the forar
Speaker 1: Real tape is to certain people, like I've had a
Speaker 1: lot of it's like a cult classic. It is and
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of a lot of people from
Speaker 1: a certain like you know, like hipster kids or just
Speaker 1: like you know, not not the what you would think
Speaker 1: the normal gangster girls listener like come up and like yo,
Speaker 1: that forar real tape changed my life, Like the Arrow
Speaker 1: gangst the Grills was like it was this for me,
Speaker 1: like so an artist too, Like that was definitely one
Speaker 1: of those ones. And obviously that was a big inspiration
Speaker 1: for somebody like Tyler growing up. So yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was that was a big That was a big
Speaker 1: tape for me. I mean because you know, at the time,
Speaker 1: Farou was already like a god, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Of course, so when he was on a skateboard p vibes,
Speaker 1: Like when when I got that phone call, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you know that. I think that's the only
Speaker 1: mixtape he's ever done in his career, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So for us for me to be a
Speaker 1: part of that, and when I got that call and
Speaker 1: then just like you know, just that's that's one of
Speaker 1: those tapes that definitely is one of the greatest ever,
Speaker 1: Like you know, the way it's put together, the zone
Speaker 1: I was in, like this shit was incredible for you.
Speaker 1: How because I'm assuming nowadays if a major label artist
Speaker 1: wants against the grills, one you have to fuck with
Speaker 1: the music, but two they have to have the back
Speaker 1: they're not getting against the grills, I'm assuming is that
Speaker 1: fair to say? Or you have to be cutting on
Speaker 1: the project in some aspect? Yeah, the way that I mean,
Speaker 1: because like things have changed, Uh in the music business.
Speaker 1: It's not the same way it used to be. No,
Speaker 1: it's not the same way. So there's you know, the
Speaker 1: way that we approached the business has changed and elevated.
Speaker 1: The cost of a gangster grills is not what it
Speaker 1: was in the mid two thousand. But you get a cut,
Speaker 1: I get, I get more. You should get something, yeah,
Speaker 1: published there's more than just a check involved, right right,
Speaker 1: for sure, some residual income there absolutely in the In
Speaker 1: your peak, though, what was the biggest bag you ever
Speaker 1: got to do a gangst the grills because you had
Speaker 1: some random ass gangster grills floating around? Yeah, I did,
Speaker 1: and it was obviously like I know what this one was.
Speaker 1: I think it probably was, to be honest, it probably
Speaker 1: came from an athlete. It probably was like a good
Speaker 1: like in in the earlier days. It was it was
Speaker 1: maybe like a forty piece or something like forty against
Speaker 1: the Girls? Was it for like the athletes rapper? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was this what's your athlete? Carmelo Anthony? I did do one.
Speaker 1: I did it. I actually did do one for Carmelo
Speaker 1: sounds about. It wasn't that one. But I've done some.
Speaker 1: I've done some very notable remember thing going, yeah, we
Speaker 1: never did again by that point, I don't. Katie never
Speaker 1: came to me for Against the Grills, but shot the
Speaker 1: KD doing Jackson. But yeah, I've done you know, Jason Terry,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson, Jason Terry, Sante Samuels, uh Meta shot the
Speaker 1: Metal World Peace Round. Our test has a Gangster Girls
Speaker 1: where he's actually rapping on the course, of course he
Speaker 1: does Steven Stephen Jackson, Yeah, he was. Yeah, we got some.
Speaker 1: There's some more out there too. You were running it,
Speaker 1: you know, actually fun, a fun time. Indeed, my boy
Speaker 1: Vi the Ruler, I know, had one early from you,
Speaker 1: like from Phoenix, and I know he paid for it.
Speaker 1: But VI's like my dog, so I remember, like I
Speaker 1: hosted his next tape and he's like, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: a whole project with DJ Drama. I'm like, DJ Drama
Speaker 1: knows you though, but that was probably what was that
Speaker 1: like twenty thirteen twelve? Okay, but yeah, man, so this
Speaker 1: new album, you got the new single with Hey Boogie
Speaker 1: Wholse one single, little Baby, Little Baby, and a what's
Speaker 1: the name of the album. I'm really like that. I'm
Speaker 1: really like that. Yeah for you? Are you taking like?
Speaker 1: Cause there is one thing about DJ projects that can
Speaker 1: get hairy, and usually they don't sound very cohesive. Usually
Speaker 1: it just sounds like songs. It's like a bunch of
Speaker 1: songs crammed in with the hottest of hot. It's not
Speaker 1: very cohesive. You gets hit sing off of them. But
Speaker 1: if I'm pressing play from start to finish. That's why
Speaker 1: I got to give it up to Metro Booming. And
Speaker 1: I know he's not a DJ as a producer, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the way he curated his album in credible, it's
Speaker 1: fucking insane. What approach did you take for this? Something similar?
Speaker 1: Where I wanted to make a cohesive body of work
Speaker 1: from beginning to end, where it was an album not
Speaker 1: of just songs, but you know, something that people would
Speaker 1: put on at the top and you know, let a
Speaker 1: ride and like you know, interesting collaborations, not just necessarily
Speaker 1: like Chase names, like you know, just artists that I
Speaker 1: think are dope, that I would love and wanted to
Speaker 1: hear together and like you know, great voices and great
Speaker 1: production and like you know, really make a good body
Speaker 1: of work. I feel like this is my best body
Speaker 1: of work since Quality Street Music. My Quality Stream Music won,
Speaker 1: which came out about ten years ago. So that was
Speaker 1: was not the one that had the Jeremi record, the
Speaker 1: jem My rack. No, that was yeah, yep, yeah my moment, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my moment, that was right, and that was ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah fuck man, I'm old as fuck. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: my moment was on there. We had a lot of
Speaker 1: we had some gems on there. Yeah. For you though,
Speaker 1: like it's crazy because with all your success, right you
Speaker 1: have like you see a guy like DJ Khaled who's
Speaker 1: put out like these gigantic anthems. Meanwhile you have like
Speaker 1: you have gems, you got like dope records, like you
Speaker 1: got plaques as a DJ. But you also as to
Speaker 1: where like maybe we the best didn't necessarily work out
Speaker 1: too crazy on the artists, ie, you got generation now,
Speaker 1: which is like man, fuck, kudos to you. Guys, why
Speaker 1: do you think like you never really reached the heights
Speaker 1: as a solo DJ because there was a point in
Speaker 1: time where you were on Atlantic and then you ended
Speaker 1: up at coch right mm, and you had some really
Speaker 1: want but you had some really big records that maybe
Speaker 1: just weren't like I feel like we're slept on or
Speaker 1: didn't like pop in the way that maybe I thought
Speaker 1: they should have. Like why do you think that is?
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a good question. I mean, are
Speaker 1: you saying in comparison to call it or just in
Speaker 1: my own just in your like, like I feel like
Speaker 1: you had records that could have been fucking number one records. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I definitely had some records
Speaker 1: that Charter that did amazing for me. My Moment was
Speaker 1: one of them. Wishing was another one that was a
Speaker 1: big record. Yeah, you know what I mean at that
Speaker 1: space or point in my career. You know, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like in comparison, like I'm more of a reserve
Speaker 1: type of person like obviously Kali. It is a very personality,
Speaker 1: very big personality, you know what I'm saying that and
Speaker 1: that that took him to like amazing heights and you know,
Speaker 1: I tip my hat off to him, kudos to like
Speaker 1: all his success. But you know, like for me, like
Speaker 1: there was just my my route and you know how
Speaker 1: I attacked the game was a little it was it
Speaker 1: was over here, you know. But but I think that
Speaker 1: was dope about it is that you know, there's a
Speaker 1: there's like obviously there's room and there's space for both
Speaker 1: of us to be these these dominant figures and like
Speaker 1: go to people that can inspire other DJs, you know,
Speaker 1: want to be the next Calid or you guys are
Speaker 1: like the bar for sure, you know. And like for me,
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, even outside of just my records,
Speaker 1: it was like all right, I'm still putting out tapes
Speaker 1: out of classics through those years, like whether it was
Speaker 1: fab or whether it was was so good there Korean Chasers,
Speaker 1: you know, Childish Gambino tape, like Jeremiah tape, like you know,
Speaker 1: I was even during that time, you know, I did
Speaker 1: Little Baby's tape, like you know, I got some ships,
Speaker 1: So there was about the Childish Gamping. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of ship that I was I was doing. I
Speaker 1: was you know, building mean street studios which became like
Speaker 1: a hub for you know, everything that was going on
Speaker 1: in the culture in Atlanta when we were doing with
Speaker 1: Generation Now, like cultivating Uzzie's career and Jack's career. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I just I wore a lot of hats,
Speaker 1: so you know, for me, it was like this is
Speaker 1: my lane. You know, I'm not trying to beat anybody else,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, this is DJ drama,
Speaker 1: and this is how I approached and attack the game.
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, it was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna go for what mine, you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a name for myself and and be
Speaker 1: you know, the greatest and you know, go down in history.
Speaker 1: Is arguably one of, if not the greatest DJ of
Speaker 1: all time. Yeah, for sure. For you obviously, a guy
Speaker 1: like Uzzi is you know, if he's on the show,
Speaker 1: he's headlined in the fucking roll, he's he is having
Speaker 1: a moment. Yeah again, for sure. Over and over he
Speaker 1: has these moments where it's like, no, Uzzi's fucking superstar,
Speaker 1: rock star for real, for real. You guys had kind
Speaker 1: of gotten into like a weird patch in your relationship,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure happens a lot when artists sign and
Speaker 1: like I sympathize with kind of the label side. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you put all these resources behind the guy.
Speaker 1: You kind of put it, put all the chips onto somebody,
Speaker 1: and once they pop, you know, they start to be like, well,
Speaker 1: you know what the fuck? You guys seem to have
Speaker 1: gotten over whatever weird hump you had, because I see
Speaker 1: pictures you guys together. What's your guys' relationship? Now? It's
Speaker 1: great till we got over the hump. You know, we're
Speaker 1: back in in a great working space and a great
Speaker 1: personal space. Him and Cannon of working you know, very
Speaker 1: very hard on the pink tape looking forward to that
Speaker 1: and you know, like it like it's family's bicker, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And like you said, like you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes it plays out in the public, sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 1: And you know, like for us, you know, obviously again
Speaker 1: like you said, we've put so much time and invested
Speaker 1: so much and like you know, his success is our success.
Speaker 1: So even at a space and time where we may
Speaker 1: differ or you know, I don't agree or have another
Speaker 1: opinion on it, it's like it's it's a rock in
Speaker 1: our place because it's like, you know, the bigger is absolutely,
Speaker 1: so you know it's kind of like you just gotta
Speaker 1: you know, roll with the punches and and you know,
Speaker 1: keep putting that work in. You know. Obviously for us
Speaker 1: a great thing that happened too when we were getting
Speaker 1: a lot of the brunt of the you know, bad
Speaker 1: publicity or bad press, like with the rock Nation situation
Speaker 1: and all that shit, it was like Jack Carlow came
Speaker 1: and it was like, Okay, these guys really know what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Like shout out to Sati Hendrix too, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, you know, and we've we've
Speaker 1: been quite successful and you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: and honestly, like I've been in the game so long
Speaker 1: and it's like I've whether it's so many storms. So
Speaker 1: even with the Verse Ship, it's like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: you you hope and you you know, foresee, like, yo,
Speaker 1: we'll get past this. What was like the catalyst to
Speaker 1: you guys kind of repairing the relationship time? Yeah, yeah, time,
Speaker 1: it was you know, just coming you know, coming back,
Speaker 1: and you know, I guess just like after a couple
Speaker 1: of years of things kind of like letting it play out,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, we got back in a good space.
Speaker 1: And again you know we were we were moving and
Speaker 1: grooving like generation now, Like you see this guy right here,
Speaker 1: Jack Harlow. We got some things going. I never understood
Speaker 1: the rock Nation thing because I always thought to myself, like,
Speaker 1: it's not like you Lake and Don Cannon aren't of
Speaker 1: the culture. Are who the fuck you are? Say it again?
Speaker 1: So I was like, Yo, say it again, why are
Speaker 1: Why is it rock Nation that try to pull people
Speaker 1: out of deals from like actual culture vultures? Say it
Speaker 1: DJ Drama like like you're trying to fucking pull my
Speaker 1: guy out of like like he's like he found this kid.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like DJ Drama did not
Speaker 1: pay Bootleg keV to make such an accurate statement. Nah.
Speaker 1: As soon as that happened, I was like, there's people
Speaker 1: who you should advocate to get out of deals. Say
Speaker 1: it again, but we're talking about Don Cannon, Drama and Lake.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, like three young black successful men who
Speaker 1: met in college at the age of eighteen and nineteen
Speaker 1: HBCUs by the way and made a name for themselves
Speaker 1: within the hip hop culture for two decades, paving the
Speaker 1: way and putting on and providing for the culture, Like, huh,
Speaker 1: anybody that should have been embraced or it should have
Speaker 1: the way it played out that I see them advocating
Speaker 1: to like get a Meek Mill released off at Atlantic
Speaker 1: after he complained about how he didn't like his deal. Right,
Speaker 1: this shit doesn't a shout out to Uzy. He's a
Speaker 1: fucking legend. Absolutely. How's the pink tape sounding? It's dope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of songs. I know they're trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, get them down to a like a good
Speaker 1: solid I don't want to say a number, but they
Speaker 1: got a lot of music. They got a lot of music.
Speaker 1: So you making this proclamation that just want to rock
Speaker 1: is the new Philly anthem. I think only would have
Speaker 1: actually worked out if you guys won the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It fucked me up when we lost. It fucked me
Speaker 1: up because I booked you that night. I was like,
Speaker 1: we got drama. We better have the Eagle celebration party.
Speaker 1: Let's go fucking man, fucking Patrick Mahomes and his boy that.
Speaker 1: I put my foot in my mouth on that one.
Speaker 1: But everybody keeps leaving out. I said this year, like
Speaker 1: I said this year. But yeah, that was a viral moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was fun. What did you see in Like, first
Speaker 1: of all, how did you actually find Jack Harlowe? Because
Speaker 1: all these like old videos of him being twelve and
Speaker 1: rapping like went viral like like a year or two ago,
Speaker 1: and it was so funny. Oh, this little moucker was
Speaker 1: rapping with Yeah, how did you like actually like discover
Speaker 1: a kid? A little white dude by all means kind
Speaker 1: of a little nerdy dude in Louisville. So I had
Speaker 1: a homeboy come to the studio one day and just
Speaker 1: say his name to me, and I went on Instagram
Speaker 1: and just like immediately followed him, and Jack saw me
Speaker 1: follow him, and he like followed me back, and he
Speaker 1: wound up later telling me like he told his homeboy like, yo,
Speaker 1: DJ Drama just followed me Like, damn, I'm gonna sign
Speaker 1: a Drama. And there's a very legendary engineer that we've
Speaker 1: worked with throughout my career who's mixed a bunch of
Speaker 1: my records as well. There's a lot of classics including
Speaker 1: Dreams and Nightmares, worked with Waka, worked with Two Chains.
Speaker 1: His name is k y Ky Engineering, So yeah, he
Speaker 1: has you know ky Engineering day tag. Yeah, So his
Speaker 1: name is Ka why because he's from Kentucky. And around
Speaker 1: the same time that I had found out about Jack,
Speaker 1: he was also working with Jack and he told Lake like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I got something I want to bring to you. You know,
Speaker 1: I just want to get it to a certain space.
Speaker 1: So he was, you know, he was putting a bug
Speaker 1: in Lake's ear about Jack. So it kind of like
Speaker 1: literally happened around the same time. And then Jack just
Speaker 1: one one day found his way to main streets and
Speaker 1: then you know, I heard he was in the building
Speaker 1: and we like we met and we sat down and
Speaker 1: we chopped it up. We talked music and life and
Speaker 1: movies and shit like that, and you know, I was
Speaker 1: I was just impressed. And then you know, we came
Speaker 1: to the table, like you know, we had a meeting
Speaker 1: and all parties, you know, came to the agreement that
Speaker 1: we wanted to them. It's crazy too, because I do
Speaker 1: feel like you guys have kind of gone the old
Speaker 1: school route of like actually developing artists. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: we like to do it. We like to get involved
Speaker 1: like in the early stage of their career and like,
Speaker 1: you know, be part of artist development. We don't nobody's
Speaker 1: doing that, Like I don't. Like I remember, like Jack
Speaker 1: was just on like these little indie tours Dark Knight
Speaker 1: when we signed them. So it's kind of crazy like
Speaker 1: in an era where everybody's signing bullshit because it's viral.
Speaker 1: You guys have kind of taken the opposite approach and
Speaker 1: read the benefits. I mean, it's paid off. Like we
Speaker 1: have you know, we have generational artists, like we have
Speaker 1: fucking superstars, you know what I'm saying. So, you know,
Speaker 1: like we were talking, it's quality over quantity, you know.
Speaker 1: And and then there are times when to be honest
Speaker 1: within us ourselves as a label, like we we discuss
Speaker 1: and like analyze like about signing more you know, more
Speaker 1: more quantity than we we might do at the level
Speaker 1: we are now. So but you know when we when
Speaker 1: we signed something like we really believe in it and
Speaker 1: you know we we we put that time in and
Speaker 1: our artists are like you know, artists that are gonna
Speaker 1: be here, you know what I'm saying. Did you guys
Speaker 1: ever try to sign EStG We did? And so that
Speaker 1: so you guys are a part of that whole. Was
Speaker 1: it like a bidding war or no? To be honest,
Speaker 1: Lake and one of our an r's Royce Monroe. Royce
Speaker 1: was was pretty much uh engineering E s TG. He
Speaker 1: did a lot of his early stuff at Mean Streets
Speaker 1: and he was he was in the building like the
Speaker 1: entire time. And Lake also wanted to sign E. S
Speaker 1: T to the label. The way we were trying to
Speaker 1: go around to structure the deal wasn't exactly what EStG
Speaker 1: was looking for at the time. And the way not
Speaker 1: Nigel shot the Nigel you know, Nage was who was
Speaker 1: an R at Atlantic at a time, you know, used
Speaker 1: to be a Mean Streets all the time. He came
Speaker 1: to Mean Streets, met G and went and took him
Speaker 1: to Gatti. So that's how it happened. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: there's like the legendary video yogat. Yeah. I feel like
Speaker 1: anytime you signed a CMG, you just get a pile
Speaker 1: of cash. Yeah, like a big ass chain and cash
Speaker 1: and all that. So you know, I mean, everything happens
Speaker 1: for a reason. You know, I can't front like G
Speaker 1: is definitely somebody that like for me, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish you wouldn't get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: because anybody else who was like kind of like at
Speaker 1: the finish line but just didn't for whatever reason ended
Speaker 1: up working out. They made a choice to go somewhere
Speaker 1: else or Yeah, there's people, there's there's there's various people
Speaker 1: like you know, early on we were we were interested
Speaker 1: in signing Tory Lanes. Who else was there? You know,
Speaker 1: we were? I was, I was there early on in
Speaker 1: Amigo's career, OT Genesis O T Yeah, Yeah, we wanted
Speaker 1: to sign OT Yeah. T Fly, Yeah, we wanted to
Speaker 1: sign T Fly. You know what, you guys, we wanted
Speaker 1: to sign problem that you guys. You guys had scheme.
Speaker 1: We had scheme still generation now shout out to my guy.
Speaker 1: Scheme to Duke Man. Scheme was scheme our first Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first person we ever signed scheme scheme. Are you
Speaker 1: guys actively always trying to sign artists because you have
Speaker 1: you do have a roster of artists that you are
Speaker 1: to I mean, there's a guy like Sadi Hendricks who
Speaker 1: has just been kind of just putting in that grind
Speaker 1: and just continuously staying consistent, leveling up slowly, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, putting out quality music. Sunny Digital, Sunny Digital.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Sonny Digital was, Yeah, Sunny Digital Generation.
Speaker 1: Now he has a project coming out. We have a
Speaker 1: female artist, Carvenah that we've been developing. She's super fire.
Speaker 1: And then we have some we have some new artists.
Speaker 1: You guys gotta grab someone from l A. Yeah, from
Speaker 1: Detroit and Detroit. I feel like Detroit's you gotta get
Speaker 1: somebody from Detroit. Bro. Yeah, I'm open. Listen, hit my line.
Speaker 1: Don't let y'all sign baby Tron away from Gazi. Hit
Speaker 1: my line. And we have we have where we're in
Speaker 1: the process of uh rebooting the management company on Generation
Speaker 1: Now too. So we got some some dope, uh some
Speaker 1: some dope people on the roster too that we're gonna
Speaker 1: out soon. Let will tell it from Taylor Gang. Uzzi
Speaker 1: was almost Taylor Gang. If you let Will tell it,
Speaker 1: how does he tell it? He just said we almost
Speaker 1: had Uzzi. I think it was like it would have
Speaker 1: been like a Generation Now Taylor Gang thing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: was that ever like close to actually happening, because you guys,
Speaker 1: you're on every fucking Whiskyly fotour that ever happens. So
Speaker 1: it's a family thing. Shout out to shout out to
Speaker 1: Will and they the guys and all those guys. Was
Speaker 1: that ever like a thing that was close to it.
Speaker 1: It was a family situation. I mean basically, you know,
Speaker 1: first time I ever heard Uzzi, by the way, was
Speaker 1: in Title Sign's dressing or hotel room in Boston, like
Speaker 1: fucking I don't know how many years ago. He was
Speaker 1: just playing a shit on sound. Oh what the fuck
Speaker 1: is this? I was, Yeah, yeah, so Vert. You know,
Speaker 1: I took Vert on tour with me during every summer
Speaker 1: I go on tour Withiz. He came out because I
Speaker 1: actually met him during our first tour together we did
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen one that I did with Wiz, and
Speaker 1: then the next year we went out with Wiz and
Speaker 1: fall Out Boy, and I brought Vert on the road
Speaker 1: with me, so he would come out on my set
Speaker 1: and perform what you want, and you know, him and
Speaker 1: Wiz just you know, established a relationship and a bond,
Speaker 1: and you know, Wiz put him on a record very
Speaker 1: early on, and you know, like so in that sense,
Speaker 1: like you know, he was family. He was. He was
Speaker 1: like he was like Taylor Gang, you know, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a it wasn't like a paperwork situation tailor
Speaker 1: gang change he did. So what happened was I think
Speaker 1: at the first very Uzi Christmas we did in Philly,
Speaker 1: Wiz gave him a Tailor Gang chain on the stage. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, this is this is still very early on
Speaker 1: when people one didn't even know Uzi was signed to
Speaker 1: DJ Drama Don Cannon, let alone know what Generation Now was.
Speaker 1: So that literally was kind of like the way that
Speaker 1: the name Generational even got some traction because it came
Speaker 1: out like, Uzi vert signs to Taylor Gang and you know,
Speaker 1: of course those are our brothers, us family. But we
Speaker 1: were like, oh, this is not exactly not the whole story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he signed a Generation Now. So then it turned into like, wait,
Speaker 1: what's Generation Now? So it kind of like, in a sense,
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Speaker 1: Take me back. You guys get hit by the FEDS
Speaker 1: for essentially the mixtape hustle. Yeah, for people who don't know.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I don't even know how many
Speaker 1: CD burners you guys had to have had, but I
Speaker 1: know he bootleg Now. I only had one of the
Speaker 1: ten to ten ones. Yeah, so you put the one
Speaker 1: at the top and then you do ten at a time.
Speaker 1: And then I had a little shitty printer I was
Speaker 1: putting the fucking mixtape covers out on. I would go
Speaker 1: to the fucking Staples and by the jewel case, I'd
Speaker 1: steal ink from the fucking demo printers what at a time.
Speaker 1: But you know how much money you think I made you? Oh,
Speaker 1: you made me a lot of money. You help to
Speaker 1: feed my baby, I would say, you you DJ Small's
Speaker 1: the game and Gunit Radios Fire. That was that was
Speaker 1: I mean, cause Southern Smoke was like a big brand
Speaker 1: to it, that very very big brand, very big. That
Speaker 1: was my main competitor. Yeah. It was like gangster grills
Speaker 1: and Southern Smoke yep. Yeah, But but like do you know,
Speaker 1: like what the like, was there like a certain thing
Speaker 1: that happened that turned the fed's attention to what was
Speaker 1: happening with mixtape culture because technically, technically it was against
Speaker 1: the law. I guess, yeah, it was. It was against
Speaker 1: long Like what was the catalyst? I guess that turned.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of different conspiracy theories. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if we go back and in time, like if
Speaker 1: we look at where music was at that time, Like
Speaker 1: the music business was in the decline for sure, so
Speaker 1: a lot of like the bottom line wasn't what they
Speaker 1: the heads or you know, the top of the food
Speaker 1: chains were used to seeing, and mixtapes were. It was
Speaker 1: like the wild wad West in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: So such it was. It was like the crypto market.
Speaker 1: So outside of like the sanctioned gangster grills that I
Speaker 1: was doing and the other like guna radios, there were
Speaker 1: like all these just random mixtapes out of people getting
Speaker 1: songs and leaking them and taking them from gmails and
Speaker 1: you know, literally being bootlegs. So I think in a
Speaker 1: way it was affecting potentially it could have been affecting
Speaker 1: some of the business, or maybe they were just looking
Speaker 1: at mixtapes as a scapegoat, you know, and then you know,
Speaker 1: at the same time, mixtapes started to show up and
Speaker 1: like best Buy and Target, with which I never understood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, nigga, those are fucking bootlegs, like literally,
Speaker 1: like they had barcodes on them, and that that wasn't
Speaker 1: coming from me, you know what I mean. Like, so
Speaker 1: they didn't run up in Best Buy with them sixteen's
Speaker 1: and arrest them for bootlegging and racketeering. But I think
Speaker 1: when when that started to happen, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: me being the go to guy, like the top of
Speaker 1: the food chain, it was like, you know, maybe they
Speaker 1: were out to send a message, and obviously it got
Speaker 1: across because shit changed after that for sure. So at
Speaker 1: the time in your peak, you guys have your headquarters,
Speaker 1: are you guys burning the CDs, distributing the mixtapes to
Speaker 1: like the bodegas, the mixed units of the world, these
Speaker 1: websites where you can go get mixtapes. Were you guys
Speaker 1: the source of just your gangsterrill shit or were you
Speaker 1: guys also producing other people's Nah, we were just doing
Speaker 1: all in house stuff. So it was all affiliates, all affiliates. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so everything that we were doing was strictly like under
Speaker 1: our under our brand, So there were gangster girls, but
Speaker 1: like that was one of the problems too, Like so
Speaker 1: when when when they went to Gangster Grills dot com,
Speaker 1: one of the red flags that they saw wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: the Gangster Grills, it was the other CDs that had
Speaker 1: like Michael Jackson on the cover, Beyonce on the cover,
Speaker 1: and it was like a blend of Michael Jackson, so
Speaker 1: mashup shite. There was like the radio mixes. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: seeing shit like that and like, oh, these are like
Speaker 1: you know, and it's Michael Jackson. And what were you
Speaker 1: guys selling mixtapes per piece four back then? Like let's
Speaker 1: say if someone bought it directly from you, maybe like
Speaker 1: two three dollars. Oh wow, I used to do I
Speaker 1: think five bucks a pop or five or twenty for wholesale. No, no,
Speaker 1: just like got the swap meat in my space. Oh
Speaker 1: I'm talking about wholesale wholesale. I was doing like two
Speaker 1: fifty Yeah, like two fifty three dollars a piece, probably
Speaker 1: like seven eight dollars or something like that. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Everything I was doing at that time
Speaker 1: was in bulk so we were. It was all wholesale. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was at a lesser price. People were buying like
Speaker 1: quantities of from two hundred to one thousand at a time,
Speaker 1: like NonStop, in a hypothetical world in which you were
Speaker 1: doing that. But you're not who you are right now.
Speaker 1: What would have been the best year that you made
Speaker 1: mixtape money was in a hypothetical world where it actually
Speaker 1: didn't happen in a far universe far away? Are you? So,
Speaker 1: let me get this question straight. I'm not. I'm asking
Speaker 1: you if you were someone who looks just like you
Speaker 1: in a different universe, how much illegal makestpe money would
Speaker 1: somebody like you have made at a peak without it
Speaker 1: actually being you. You know what's crazy to answer that, Like,
Speaker 1: in that hypothetical world, somebody who may have looked like me,
Speaker 1: like in like another universe doppelganger, like one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: a month? Wow? Yeah? And that is that taxable in
Speaker 1: this hypothetical world where this person do some of it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. It was a hypothetical person would have been
Speaker 1: paying taxes on it because it was going through the
Speaker 1: banking system. It was cash involved as well. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: what's crazy is even after the raid like during the
Speaker 1: like that piff era and live mixtape era, Yo, I
Speaker 1: probably made more money than because they were they were
Speaker 1: cutting me checks to make whatever gangster girls I put
Speaker 1: out exclusive to their site. So when an artist would
Speaker 1: come to me to do a tape, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but asked to go on that piff And
Speaker 1: then that piff was What was the da pif check
Speaker 1: for like dedication for dedication, What was the check? Probably
Speaker 1: like fifty they would give me. They gave me fifty
Speaker 1: and gave Wayne a buck fifty like and Yo, when
Speaker 1: you guys would drop those fucking tapes like Dap Pip
Speaker 1: would get shut the fuck with crash like, I made
Speaker 1: more money after the raid off mixtapes than I made
Speaker 1: during the earlier days. I bought the first time I
Speaker 1: ever interviewed you or met you. I was like a
Speaker 1: nobody intern of power in Phoenix and I had the
Speaker 1: I bought the white tea with I'll Never Forget It
Speaker 1: Jay Drama ship off a mixed unit and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm about to be drama about the bust out the
Speaker 1: team that was And we did that interview like during
Speaker 1: my first album run right after the raid. So that
Speaker 1: was like seven Yeah, it was around. It was it
Speaker 1: was early, bro, I was like a nobody. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I never forgot, like I remember you from that time.
Speaker 1: I was like the first time we met in Phoenix
Speaker 1: when we did that and fucking triple xl DJ Drama.
Speaker 1: See yeah, shout out to Mixed Unit. Man. I used
Speaker 1: to buy a hell of shirts off of there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had everything. Yeah, fucking a man. I just saw, well,
Speaker 1: I guess that PIFF isn't actually closing. They put up
Speaker 1: a tweet that said that there was. I saw that.
Speaker 1: I was so sad. That's crazy. I mean it's crazy
Speaker 1: because fab dm it to me too, like I had.
Speaker 1: I think I saw it on I saw a post
Speaker 1: about it, and then right after I saw a post
Speaker 1: about it, fab dm'd it to me. And I think
Speaker 1: he dm'd it to me because I we just recently
Speaker 1: sat down for something I got coming out and we
Speaker 1: were talking about that era. But like, just to think
Speaker 1: about that, like imagine if that PIF does or did
Speaker 1: had gone under, like that's like a generation. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like a part of our culture that could
Speaker 1: potentially go like lost, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: so much of that stuff is not available on the DSPs,
Speaker 1: and like you know where people don't know where to
Speaker 1: find it. And like if we lose if we lose that,
Speaker 1: you know, that time or and that music from that
Speaker 1: that era, it's like it'll just be like word, it'll
Speaker 1: be like damn, do you remember? You know, It'll it'll
Speaker 1: just be spoken about. So it's really it's like really
Speaker 1: important that we get a hold of that, you know,
Speaker 1: just just to keep it a lot to keep it,
Speaker 1: got to keep the history of Like where else am
Speaker 1: I going to go? I don't want to go listen
Speaker 1: to some shitty YouTube fucking ship to go listen to
Speaker 1: like the Forarel tape or some little other show. And
Speaker 1: one of my goals is something I've been working on too,
Speaker 1: is definitely bringing some of the classics to the DSPs,
Speaker 1: like so they can be available so people. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so many projects and it's a lot of work,
Speaker 1: but it can be done. Like it can be done.
Speaker 1: So one that we're definitely in the process of working
Speaker 1: on is getting dedication to up on DSPs. It's really
Speaker 1: just what clearing the beats? Yeah, you got clearing the
Speaker 1: clearing the beats, Like you know, I'm sure Wane's down
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah. Yeah, can't do it without without the game,
Speaker 1: can't do it without them. Who el do you have
Speaker 1: on this new album? I got a lot of great people.
Speaker 1: Tyler the creator, who's okay, who's the Who's on the
Speaker 1: Tyler song? Tyler and I just just wait something here.
Speaker 1: You may wait long enough for this interviews with the
Speaker 1: Tyler drama. It's Tyler. And you can't put Tyler on
Speaker 1: a song with anybody. So it's just Tyler. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: he's got track number two or the intro or what
Speaker 1: is it? It's I mean feels like, what a way
Speaker 1: to start track two? What a way to you know,
Speaker 1: what a way to come off for Grammy? What track
Speaker 1: number is it? What a way to start? So it's
Speaker 1: the intro? I love it. Jack Harlow's on the album
Speaker 1: I Sure would hope, So, Little Woozy vert Uh, Little
Speaker 1: Wayne's on the album Jesus forty two Dougs on the album.
Speaker 1: L Russell's on the album Love l Russell Hives on
Speaker 1: the album Carvings on the album money Bag, Yeos on
Speaker 1: the album, Gucci's on the album Jeezy's on the album
Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustles on the album. Nipsey Blast is on the album.
Speaker 1: Did you put Nipsey and Blast on a song together?
Speaker 1: I got some ship on there. You're telling me you
Speaker 1: got Nipsey and Blast on the album together. I got
Speaker 1: some ship. Pretty excited for you to hear it. How
Speaker 1: do you get the Nipsey verse? You know, Nipsey did
Speaker 1: a lot of recording at uh mean Street. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so so okay, lost to archives, so we got this
Speaker 1: old Nipsey verse. You reach out to black Sam make
Speaker 1: sure obviously you have to clear with the family of course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and then a lot of that process, and
Speaker 1: then you send the verse to Blast and say I
Speaker 1: need a hook. Yeah, you know how it goes. You
Speaker 1: know how to put songs together featuring another artist from
Speaker 1: La No No no, Wow. Yeah, I can't wait. It
Speaker 1: sounds like am on the album Simon the rustling a
Speaker 1: song together. No No, I love it. Shout out to
Speaker 1: the bay Mane Whiz is on their tips on there.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I have some of the you know,
Speaker 1: the the uh the people you would expect to see
Speaker 1: work with dram as well as a lot of like
Speaker 1: new voices as well. So it's a good. You know combination. Yo,
Speaker 1: how do you kind of look back at the Grand
Speaker 1: Hustle era of your career because when you were on
Speaker 1: Grand Hustle, it was like the hottest ship moving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I think a lot of things probably you know,
Speaker 1: kind of went wrong or you know, I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: Bob is a star. I think trade the truth is
Speaker 1: on Grand Hustle, my trippern Tip had a hell of
Speaker 1: a roster. If we really want young bo I actually
Speaker 1: really liked the guy that snitched Alpha Mega. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: liked Alfamega. He was hard at fuck, but but you
Speaker 1: know he was kind of like the first six ' nine.
Speaker 1: He was an early teller because he was fire. He
Speaker 1: was on that, he was on that record with Buster Rhymes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had to perform that without Tip at the Hip
Speaker 1: Hop Awards when Tip got it was that called Hurt
Speaker 1: Yeah Hurt. Oh yeah, his voice was crazy. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: performed that. I just somebody just recently sent me that
Speaker 1: YouTube video. It was like y Cleft opened up and
Speaker 1: then we and then me fucking Alpha Mega and bust
Speaker 1: To performed Hurt without Tip because people were he had
Speaker 1: just got locked up, like literally that day. Do you
Speaker 1: think him getting locked up like kind of affected, like
Speaker 1: the trajectory of the label as a whole in a sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because he had Meek Mill was
Speaker 1: originally ground hustle, and yeah, Meek was over a ground
Speaker 1: hustle for a period of time, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know Travis Scott was. I remember Travis, Travis was
Speaker 1: grand hustle. Yeah, bo b Iggy Azelia oh man. You
Speaker 1: know Tip, Tip has had his hand in a in
Speaker 1: a nice you know. Uh, I don't think he gets
Speaker 1: the credit that he should deserve when it comes to
Speaker 1: like having an eye for talent. I agree, I has
Speaker 1: an amazing eye for talent. Yeah. Yeah. And then you
Speaker 1: know there's others that he like he talks about, you know,
Speaker 1: savage and thug coming to him wanting to sign and
Speaker 1: you know, him telling him, look like, I think you
Speaker 1: should do it this way. I could give you this
Speaker 1: million dollars, but you know, just I could give you
Speaker 1: this game that'll go a lot farther. So yeah. But
Speaker 1: but as far as like that time in my career,
Speaker 1: I don't know if what I want to call it
Speaker 1: like a golden era, but it was a hell of
Speaker 1: a It was a hell of a time like you know,
Speaker 1: being t I's DJ. When t I was like the
Speaker 1: hottest ship a rapper, Like he was literally the hottest
Speaker 1: rapper out, like you know, we was. We was doing
Speaker 1: tours across the state. I went around and we went
Speaker 1: around the world together. He was doing Chevy commercials. He
Speaker 1: was like I was in atl like you know, he
Speaker 1: had the number one album and number one movie out
Speaker 1: at the same time, Like you know, he was on fire.
Speaker 1: I mean literally I got to go on tour with
Speaker 1: jay Z because the Tip and then you know, my
Speaker 1: brand and Gangster Grills was the hottest thing going. So
Speaker 1: like you know, to be DJ Drama and and what
Speaker 1: Ti I was and for us to you know be
Speaker 1: together at that time, it was like it was kind
Speaker 1: of what I had always like dreamed for in a
Speaker 1: way of like a DJ artist relationship like growing up
Speaker 1: looking at you know, run DMC and jam Massa J
Speaker 1: and Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff or being rock Kim
Speaker 1: or even like who kid in fifty or like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys were like synonymous with each other for a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Green and m early on Like when when when
Speaker 1: I when I when TIP was like rising and like
Speaker 1: I was doing my thing, and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: like this is this could be my guy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, I like I used
Speaker 1: to literally go to the studio, to the ground house
Speaker 1: of Studios, which later became my studios, but I would
Speaker 1: literally go there like every day just to be around,
Speaker 1: just to kind of like vibe for that DJ gig
Speaker 1: because I knew what that's what that could be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we had some hell of the times on
Speaker 1: a oh like I saw a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of things. What was the jay Z Tour?
Speaker 1: So originally it was the best of both Worlds tour
Speaker 1: and the one that went the incident happened in New
Speaker 1: York And during the New York show, Jay was bringing
Speaker 1: out a bunch of people when and then that was
Speaker 1: when Tip had bring him out out. So he brought
Speaker 1: Tip out for that show. So after that show, it
Speaker 1: became basically the jay Z and Friends Tour. So we
Speaker 1: wound up on the tour. So for the next like month,
Speaker 1: you know, I was on the road watching fucking jay
Speaker 1: Z DMX Mary J. Blige perform every night. You know,
Speaker 1: like it was crazy, it was insane, Like you know,
Speaker 1: this is like O four. It was Insane four, who
Speaker 1: was Ja's DJ at that time, was a Neil Armstrong.
Speaker 1: Jay didn't have a d J if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: They were running on the board the the instantly play
Speaker 1: from the from the side. Yeah, speaking of shout out
Speaker 1: of Green Lantern, the legend DJ NAS's DJ bro, Like
Speaker 1: who can say that? I tell him that all the time.
Speaker 1: One of my personal favorite mixtape creators of all time.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's like those Green Lantern remixes. There's no
Speaker 1: Gangster Girls if there's no Green Lantern Greenland. Like we
Speaker 1: used to like salivate pause over Green's tapes, like we
Speaker 1: would when Green would drop. We would sit there and
Speaker 1: just like the rap phenomenon Ship, we would be so
Speaker 1: overwhelmed and just so like yo, we gotta get on
Speaker 1: our ship. Like you know, Green was Green was our
Speaker 1: Green was our idol bro, like even before I knew him,
Speaker 1: like you know, and now like he's such a great
Speaker 1: personal friend of mine, but like coming up like Green
Speaker 1: Lantern was the epitome of what I wanted to be
Speaker 1: as a mixtape DJ. Shot to Green. There's a list
Speaker 1: of artists who never did a gangst The Grills, uh,
Speaker 1: who's the one person who you never got to do
Speaker 1: a tape with? But it almost happened. It was like
Speaker 1: almost there, but it just for whatever reason, didn't end
Speaker 1: up working out. There's a couple uh Drake Black thought,
Speaker 1: which still better make that shit happen for you feeling,
Speaker 1: which still needs to happen. Travis Scott mm hmm. Nicki
Speaker 1: Minaj I'm I forgetting? Like who's he forgetting? Like Travis Travis, Nikky,
Speaker 1: Drake thought, Black thought big, there's another big one, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hell of an Any of those
Speaker 1: that you you started to work on it, but it
Speaker 1: just didn't get finished or it just never got out. Well,
Speaker 1: we started to work on the Drake and Gucci tape collaboration,
Speaker 1: there were like there are a couple of songs that
Speaker 1: got started for that that we'll never probably hear. No,
Speaker 1: they came out, Yeah, they came out on like the
Speaker 1: Cold Wars and then the tape that's that is beam
Speaker 1: Me Up. Scotti was originally supposed to be a gangst
Speaker 1: the girls. So the Nicki Mina's tape that you know
Speaker 1: they just hold yeah holiday and I think Trapoholics or something.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but that was originally against the girls the
Speaker 1: Gangster Grills drop. M. I just saw somebody was getting
Speaker 1: sued for using someone's voice as a drop on all
Speaker 1: these records. Did you ever have to like get any
Speaker 1: sort of legal paperwork to clear the drop? Bro? Little
Speaker 1: John is the like greatest human being on the planet,
Speaker 1: like he has to this day. And like by me
Speaker 1: saying this, I'm not It's not even like there's a
Speaker 1: worry because if he had any intentions at like, he
Speaker 1: could have came so long ago, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I've literally been running with his voice for twenty
Speaker 1: two years, like since he was the first host of
Speaker 1: Gangster Grills, Like my brand has has been built off
Speaker 1: of his back, you know what I'm saying. And he's
Speaker 1: done nothing but show love. Like you know, so was
Speaker 1: that the original drop was from the original Gangster Grills.
Speaker 1: So he came. The first time I ever had a
Speaker 1: host for Gangster Grills was John, and he came and
Speaker 1: hosted the tape and he was just doing drops and
Speaker 1: in the drop he said, gangst the Grizzils. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then the next tape I did, I didn't have a host,
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, well fuck it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just you run his voice back and just like
Speaker 1: keep playing it. And that was how it was born
Speaker 1: and then it was over from there. Shit's legendary, crazy,
Speaker 1: so legendary, you know for you Now that Jack has
Speaker 1: kind of crossed over to superstar status, I know he's
Speaker 1: got a movie coming soon. Just did his first headlining
Speaker 1: arena tour. Yeah, just got nominated for Best Rap Album
Speaker 1: of the Year, even though I don't think you should
Speaker 1: have gotten nominated personally, But I love the guy. Have
Speaker 1: you guys, because I do feel like when an artist
Speaker 1: hits that wave where they're just like fucking out of here,
Speaker 1: do you guys keep your relationships as solid as it
Speaker 1: always has been. I mean, Jack is a solid human being,
Speaker 1: So because he kind of got to witness I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like he was somehow like weirdly wedged in
Speaker 1: between like the UZI generation now things. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: it was kind of unfair for him, you know, but
Speaker 1: like he kind of got to see and what was
Speaker 1: dope is that he really you know, he's like I
Speaker 1: feel like him really standing by me during that meant
Speaker 1: a lot, you know what I'm saying. And at the
Speaker 1: time when like he could have just kind of like
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say stay out of
Speaker 1: it in a sense of that he was in it,
Speaker 1: but when the press or the way it was being
Speaker 1: portrayed as as if we were bad guys, Jack really
Speaker 1: went out on a limb and put his arm around
Speaker 1: me and was like, Yo, this is my guy. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I always tip my hat
Speaker 1: off to him for that, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for because he didn't have to do that. He could
Speaker 1: have he could have totally stayed out of the way.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't even know if you remember, Like
Speaker 1: there were some pictures and then like you know, like him,
Speaker 1: UZI had a little back and forth in between everything.
Speaker 1: They had never even met. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was it was basically just because I was in
Speaker 1: the middle. But so yeah, to your point, I mean
Speaker 1: he did get to see that, and you know, I
Speaker 1: obviously when when you have artists like you know, you
Speaker 1: have these conversations early on in their careers, like yo,
Speaker 1: you you know, you when you're a superstar, like you know,
Speaker 1: people change or things happen, and you know, Jack's just
Speaker 1: he's a solid guy, you know, obviously at twenty five,
Speaker 1: you know where he is with the type of success
Speaker 1: and the stardom. He's not the same kid he was
Speaker 1: at nineteen, but you know, he's he's a very focused individual.
Speaker 1: Like you know, he made the decision years ago to
Speaker 1: stop drinking, like you know, to like getting a workout regiment.
Speaker 1: Like he was really really focused, and you know, I
Speaker 1: just I just think outside of rap music, like he's solid,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: they're all artists, you know, and and in our own ways,
Speaker 1: me included, Like there's always a certain level of narcissism.
Speaker 1: I feel like that comes along with being an artist.
Speaker 1: So you know there's times when you you watch people
Speaker 1: be in their in their mode, their mode, and you
Speaker 1: know it comes with the territory. You know, It's not
Speaker 1: something I'm like, I've been doing this too long, so
Speaker 1: I get it. But but somebody like Jack, I will say,
Speaker 1: you know, I've watched I watched his growth, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm proud that, like he still has maintained this level
Speaker 1: of humility. Has he started working on a new album yet? Yes,
Speaker 1: because I know, I mean, I feel like he had
Speaker 1: such a wild year. Yeah, Like I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like if I'm like Jack Harlowe, I'm unplugging for like
Speaker 1: yeah cool ninety days for sure, Well you're the movie
Speaker 1: the album. I mean because he was he was. It
Speaker 1: was Jack Harlow season, Like he was everywhere, Like you
Speaker 1: couldn't look left or right without seeing Jack Harlow. So
Speaker 1: I would, I mean to your point, like I would say,
Speaker 1: he's like last couple of months has it's been a
Speaker 1: little more quiet outside of maybe like a super Bowl
Speaker 1: commercial or he wasn't even in Arizona for the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He was not. He was He wasn't because I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I already know he's about to
Speaker 1: do all the white clubs. He didn't go to Arizona
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl. He wasn't an All Star, you know,
Speaker 1: and he wants to go to Utah. He was. He
Speaker 1: was quiet for the Grammys. Outside of going to the Grammys, right,
Speaker 1: you know, he's been in a real work mode for
Speaker 1: the most part. So you know he's he's back in Louisville,
Speaker 1: working in a space and an environment that he's comfortable in,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's got a lot of new music.
Speaker 1: Give me the NBA Young Boy tape. Did you have
Speaker 1: to go to Salt Lake City to link with him
Speaker 1: or were you just sending over shit after Like how's
Speaker 1: that because he's kind of like a you know, truthfully, yeah, truthfully.
Speaker 1: I got a call on Tuesday or Wednesday, Yo, I'm
Speaker 1: dropping a mixtape. I want you to host it. You know,
Speaker 1: I got like two other tapes coming out, bro. But
Speaker 1: the week of the week of oh Wow, he was
Speaker 1: trying to get out of that deal. He called me
Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday. I think I did the tape if
Speaker 1: I if you called me Tuesday, we dropped the tape
Speaker 1: Thursday night. I probably finished it Thursday and we dropped it.
Speaker 1: But like, I'm not saying no to an NBA your shape,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, you know, it was like I
Speaker 1: had already the g zy and the snoop and and
Speaker 1: people knew knew about him. So I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, when I come with NBA Young Boy tape,
Speaker 1: fuck these niggas up. Like on one day, I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: drums on some drops. It was like we were in
Speaker 1: New York called you that I called you you did,
Speaker 1: And I was like, am I fucking crazy? Or are
Speaker 1: you dropping three mixtapes today. I was like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is going on? This is shit? Is crazy? You
Speaker 1: just got a Grammy bruh Hill, Let theseuckers breathe a
Speaker 1: little bit, no chill, not letting nobody and it would
Speaker 1: snoop j Zy an NBA young boy. Yeah, I was crazy.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ listen, man. I mean, let's put it in
Speaker 1: a perspective, like I've been what I've been DJ in
Speaker 1: thirty years. I've been in the business twenty years, two
Speaker 1: decades plus. Like I've had a moment or moments where
Speaker 1: I was on fire. So now in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three, I'm back on fire. Like you
Speaker 1: can't turn it up. Yeah, you got to, like you
Speaker 1: can't take that shit for granted. And mind you even
Speaker 1: the years before that, Like it's not like I haven't
Speaker 1: been working. It's not Jack hasn't been successful, UZI it
Speaker 1: wasn't doing this thing, or I didn't have my bag
Speaker 1: it's residency, or I was dropping things here and there.
Speaker 1: Like it's not like I have I haven't been busy,
Speaker 1: but to be in this space right now at forty five,
Speaker 1: with my skin glowing like this, Yeah, drinking a gallon
Speaker 1: of water looking twenty one, Like, come on, man, I'm
Speaker 1: not not playing. You have never stopped doing clubs never,
Speaker 1: and you're in a position where you don't need to
Speaker 1: do nightclubs. I don't, so why do you still do
Speaker 1: the club shit? I don't like to leave any money
Speaker 1: on the table, and it keeps me, it keeps me fresh,
Speaker 1: Like I like, I like to know, like I like
Speaker 1: to as a DJ, I like to still feel like
Speaker 1: I know what's going on, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you still have your the fingers on the pulse
Speaker 1: of the shit, because you kind of have to have
Speaker 1: that in order to rock clubs absolutely, like you have
Speaker 1: to or like forces you to be. Yeah, if you're not,
Speaker 1: if you're not in the clubs regularly or know what's
Speaker 1: going on, like yeah, you can't just go and not
Speaker 1: to the type of clubs that we do or that
Speaker 1: I'm in, Like I'm respectfully, I'm not djam for forty
Speaker 1: five year olds, like I'm djammed for the club age,
Speaker 1: which is what like twenty one to thirty something or whatever.
Speaker 1: So you know, to do that, you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta stay in the mix. And it's crazy because
Speaker 1: I did get to a point like when I was
Speaker 1: like thirty thirty seven, thirty eight, Like I came to
Speaker 1: Lake and I was like, bro, like when I'm when
Speaker 1: I turned forty, Bro, I don't want to do clubs anymore,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be that guy, Like I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the old head in the club.
Speaker 1: And so there was a there was a small period,
Speaker 1: a small window where like Lake wasn't booking me as much,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, and we had a
Speaker 1: bunch of other revenues of you know, revenue streams coming in,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't really doing a lot outside of maybe
Speaker 1: like my Vegas residency or big shit. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: was because you'll do like you'll pull up and do
Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about Flux right, Peter Flux
Speaker 1: in San Diego. But I mean, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: most of the shit I do is pretty you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's of a certain caliber. Sure, but again,
Speaker 1: like you know, just to be in this position and
Speaker 1: to get these opportunities, like you know, it's a blessing.
Speaker 1: Like the moment you take it for granted, bro, the
Speaker 1: is the moment they take it away from you. You know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, and like, you gotta get it while
Speaker 1: you're getting it because you don't know how long it's
Speaker 1: gonna last. And that's what I'm saying. Like and I've
Speaker 1: I've had a blessed career that it's lasted this long,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And like, you know, but
Speaker 1: I still feel forever twenty one, like the store is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a bar, like we'll see why you
Speaker 1: didn't wrap druck with I set that bar on the
Speaker 1: tape forever twenty one like this, mister thanksgiving, God, damn it.
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Speaker 1: we talked about the greatest DJ of all time discussion.
Speaker 1: I always, you know, say that, in my opinion, you
Speaker 1: are the goat. Who are your favorite DJs? Let's go
Speaker 1: a couple categories. You're very vocal about that too. What's
Speaker 1: the like when you say that? Like, I just feel
Speaker 1: like the reception that you get when you say that,
Speaker 1: even from other DJs. I think I think a lot
Speaker 1: of I think, you know, like you like tweet that,
Speaker 1: like Yo drums the greatest. I mean, what are we
Speaker 1: talking about? Just? I mean, who's the other guy to
Speaker 1: get a Grammy besides Jazzy? Jeff Right has a Grammy?
Speaker 1: Does he? What's song the Nipsey Record? That's right? So
Speaker 1: me Khaled Jeff that might be it When it comes
Speaker 1: to DJs, the Nipsey Record was Wow Ye shout out
Speaker 1: to Yeah salute. But who's your favorite club DJ? I
Speaker 1: have too favorite? I have to mister Rogers shots at
Speaker 1: each town and DJ Boof shots of Boof Boof? Just
Speaker 1: did is he he's Nikki's DJ? Right? Yes, he's Nikki's DJ?
Speaker 1: And super Bowl he hopped on when Fab jumped on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Booth and mister Rodgers are like my like, I hate
Speaker 1: playing after them niggas like they're cold, broh. I hate it.
Speaker 1: Like mister like mister Rogers, he does a better DJ
Speaker 1: drama set than I do. Wow, Like one one year
Speaker 1: we were on tour. We were in Houston and I
Speaker 1: had an after party and this nigga just like was
Speaker 1: in the club giving me my flowers and like the
Speaker 1: dram the DJ dramas, Yo me and Lake would sitting
Speaker 1: we would like, how am I supposed to go on
Speaker 1: now Blown Away? Like Yo, this nigga just fucking And
Speaker 1: then Booth is another one, like you know, I will.
Speaker 1: I've seen Booth on tour. We just did the Legends
Speaker 1: of the Streets tour and that had to be a
Speaker 1: crazy tour by the way it was. It was a
Speaker 1: dope experience. Boozy on that one or he was on show.
Speaker 1: He was on one show and then it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: But Booth something happened where I guess Fab had like
Speaker 1: maybe missed a flight or something, and Booth literally had
Speaker 1: to hold it down for like Fab's whole performance set
Speaker 1: and I think it was like Valentine's Day too, and
Speaker 1: he just like he's a problem, like Booth is a problem.
Speaker 1: So those two guys are my definitely two current favorites.
Speaker 1: Like of yeah, of course Jeff is you know, Jeff
Speaker 1: is amazing. I remember seeing Jim as j live one time.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. Yeah, Jeff is special though I saw
Speaker 1: when I was living in Vegas. I remember like when
Speaker 1: he would DJ, I would always either go see him
Speaker 1: or Z trip just to be like just to go
Speaker 1: see some ill DJ. Yeah, yeah, z trip was dope.
Speaker 1: There was a time when Encore unpluged Jazzy Jeff and
Speaker 1: it caused like chaos in the Vegas nightclub clip see,
Speaker 1: and they like shut him off because he was he
Speaker 1: wouldn't stop playing hip hop. This was like the dark
Speaker 1: E d M days of Vegas. Yeah, an Encore, there's
Speaker 1: you know Shaky Green, Yes, so Shky I think had
Speaker 1: booked him there and you know he's an old school
Speaker 1: hip hop guy. But like the GM of the club
Speaker 1: like shut Jazzy Jeff off because he was too hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Like can you imagine cutting off DJ Jazzy Jeff.
Speaker 1: It was like let his he just went silent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but bro Vegas used to be Fumi Go DJ, Crown
Speaker 1: nightclub or some ship. Did you ever do Crown? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did Crown. I used to I did a bunch
Speaker 1: of I used to do Chateau. You were a lot, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a Yeah. It was at Paris a chateau. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then what was the club that Ray J used
Speaker 1: to be a part of Do you remember? This was
Speaker 1: like eight o nine and got there? Poetry poetry. I
Speaker 1: used to do poetry all the time. Did you ever
Speaker 1: do strip hop. Of course. It's the first time I
Speaker 1: ever saw a woman swallowing entire like animal balloon. She
Speaker 1: blew the whole ship up. It was like the size
Speaker 1: of this table and it just went away and she
Speaker 1: kept dancing, and I was like, is her stomach acid
Speaker 1: gonna pop the balloon? And like is she gonna die?
Speaker 1: Or like is she gonna yeah? Strip pop was the time?
Speaker 1: That was? That was the ill time? And then yeah,
Speaker 1: boof boof and Rogers, what about let's it are yours?
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, All time ams pretty fucking incredible too,
Speaker 1: I guess, like for me? Problem sorry, And and then
Speaker 1: I have to who am I? What? Oh fuck? Who
Speaker 1: am I? Who am I not thinking of? From I
Speaker 1: can't believe I just went blank from Canada. He was
Speaker 1: a d m C champion. Oh A track, A track,
Speaker 1: A track, a beast, A track is a problem. I
Speaker 1: love a track. I love he's he's like he might
Speaker 1: be he might be third for me. Well, the reason
Speaker 1: I like like guys like a track is because I
Speaker 1: feel like a track. You could throw him in any situation,
Speaker 1: any situation, any situation, and he's gonna rock that ship
Speaker 1: any situation. Fucking ratchet party, party doesn't matter. He could
Speaker 1: go to a d m C any tracks. Actually, probably
Speaker 1: my favorite DJ ever, He's and ship He's one of
Speaker 1: mine too. He's one of my favorite DJs ever, like
Speaker 1: all around, Like those are the kind of DJs that
Speaker 1: I like. I'm like, yo, if I could throw you,
Speaker 1: if I can see somebody rock whatever and they got
Speaker 1: whatever in their arsenal and you know to his credit
Speaker 1: to like he had a very successful label. Yeah fools goals.
Speaker 1: You know, he fucking was Kanye's DJ, Like you know,
Speaker 1: A Trax's name needs to get he was a d
Speaker 1: MC champion, like as a child, as a fucking thirteen
Speaker 1: year old crazy, you know, A trak is probably my
Speaker 1: favorite personal favorite DJ. Great guys, scratch DJ. I really like.
Speaker 1: DJ Baboo from the b Junkies is dope. But yeah,
Speaker 1: some club shit, bro, I don't know, dude, Like, I
Speaker 1: guess it depends on what club I'm in, because I'm
Speaker 1: so like current that I'm like i just know if
Speaker 1: I see someone's name on a flyer, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know the music is going to be straight. Like
Speaker 1: if Drey Sinatra's DJ, and I'm like, cool, I know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good of course if DJ ba D's DJ.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in LA, so I'm naming LA guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I know it's gonna be a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Dre is like I heard
Speaker 1: Sean mack ones, Who's Oh yeah, Sean mack Shaw Mack's
Speaker 1: a great one too, Sean Mack Sean like going and
Speaker 1: shook igo. He's another one that I hated coming on after.
Speaker 1: I love on the mixtape side if we exclude Clue,
Speaker 1: because that's gonna be the easy one to name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to again about Dre. What's dope
Speaker 1: about Dre too, is like I feel like like he's
Speaker 1: like a a lou Will in a way, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Dre is, he's a fucking bro.
Speaker 1: He's clutch. He's clutched at all times, like you know,
Speaker 1: he saved my as twice. During Super Bowl weekend, Meek
Speaker 1: Mill hoops on and Dre's just letting ship fly while
Speaker 1: he's performing, and he throws on one of the records
Speaker 1: that meets like on the second verse of and Meek
Speaker 1: looks at him like you got my verse ready? And
Speaker 1: Dre's like in the headphones and on the fly, like
Speaker 1: perfect timing, and I just looked at Dre like what
Speaker 1: record was? It? Was it? Fuck you? Yes, he dropped
Speaker 1: the record and Meek almost looked at him like what
Speaker 1: the fuck are playing this for? And Dre's like and
Speaker 1: I was like, Doug, thank you. And then even because
Speaker 1: your shit wasn't working with the controller, we had a
Speaker 1: club yep. So Dre was like, I got it. It's
Speaker 1: all good. Yep. We worked out a Dre's computer and
Speaker 1: then you know, me and Dra, like when I first
Speaker 1: started working a lot in LA, there was this club
Speaker 1: called Colony on Monday nights. So All Star Weekend in
Speaker 1: like twenty ten was in LA, and I think I
Speaker 1: had a bunch of gigs, and then I got added
Speaker 1: to do Colony that Monday of All Star. And this
Speaker 1: was like around the time when LA was kind of
Speaker 1: like changing, you know what I'm saying. And then so
Speaker 1: like the type of music that I was playing and
Speaker 1: like coming from Atlanta, like I did Colony and I
Speaker 1: fucking rocked, and then me and Dre like established this
Speaker 1: relationship so Dre would start That was really when the
Speaker 1: West Coast was kind of resurging with a sound rock
Speaker 1: city like the early Muster records. So Dre was putting
Speaker 1: me on to all the California music and he was like,
Speaker 1: you'll play this, You'll play this, and then I would
Speaker 1: take it back home and like start putting it on
Speaker 1: Shade forty five early on because I was familiar with it.
Speaker 1: So like, you know, he's he. We literally have been
Speaker 1: like rocking for a decade plus and I've been watching
Speaker 1: them doing. Whatever happened. You had a short lived DJ
Speaker 1: crew that was supposed to kind of rival what the
Speaker 1: heavy hitters are. You're talking about the Affiliates or like
Speaker 1: the Academy. So we we we around twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: We wanted to h Dre was a part of it,
Speaker 1: a man. We had a bunch of people a part
Speaker 1: of it, like fucking Diamond Cuts, mister Rogers. It was
Speaker 1: like fifteen. It was like short lived though, right Well,
Speaker 1: what happened to be honest, was around the time that
Speaker 1: we launched it, I was going into my in our
Speaker 1: job and then we started. A generation now started and
Speaker 1: we went into the direction of you know, the label
Speaker 1: and so I think that a lot of my you know,
Speaker 1: are with yeah, our bandwidth and just like our focus
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily on what we had set out to do
Speaker 1: with the DJ crew at the time, so it kind
Speaker 1: of didn't it didn't become what it became. But you know,
Speaker 1: like you know it, we're still proud of, you know,
Speaker 1: the arsenal or the collective that we put together, and
Speaker 1: there are people that still represent or you know, like
Speaker 1: it's still family. But then you said something before that
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up. Was it about you had
Speaker 1: said in the club you were about to name somebody else.
Speaker 1: I was just saying that, like if I go to
Speaker 1: a club, if I see someone's name on a flyer,
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's just like a few names, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, like I love B A D B A
Speaker 1: D's dope and Dope. Yeah, I mean who else we
Speaker 1: talked about a track? Oh, you said, okay, so taking
Speaker 1: away clue, you said, mixtapes? Oh, mixtapes? Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: if you take clue out there, who's Who's who's your
Speaker 1: personal favorite mixtape DJs after yourself? Obviously, because there's been
Speaker 1: there was some. I mean, here's guys like Big Mic
Speaker 1: OKJ Smalls. Then there's who Kid there's I mean, so
Speaker 1: of course I'm gonna say Cannon first, and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Greenlander and who Kid like Greenlanding and who
Speaker 1: Kid are are why we are where we are? Like
Speaker 1: we we would we would religiously listen and cop Green's
Speaker 1: tapes and who Kids tapes and and really for two
Speaker 1: different reasons too, like because totally different styles of J
Speaker 1: two totally different styles of DJ, and like Green skill
Speaker 1: wise creativity wise, like actually making records, making records like
Speaker 1: you know, the drops, just you know, sound wise, nobody
Speaker 1: could touch Green. And then who kid For like marketing,
Speaker 1: like like the way he was packaging his the mixtapes,
Speaker 1: like the fold out, the sponsorships, like it just was
Speaker 1: bigger than life. Like I think he's the first person
Speaker 1: I ever seen like what they fold out, like you know,
Speaker 1: it was not just a paper like you open it
Speaker 1: up and it'd be like all this ship on air
Speaker 1: and these you know, accolades and sponsorships and all this ship.
Speaker 1: It was like next level ship, you know, And it
Speaker 1: was at a time when fifth was the biggest thing
Speaker 1: in rap music. So I love Who kid For for
Speaker 1: that and his and his personality as well, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a fucking he's a fool. Like sure, he's
Speaker 1: just a fucking fool. So yeah, that would those would
Speaker 1: be my go tos, Amy leaving anybody, don't m So
Speaker 1: we got Clue Green Iron Green, We got a kid? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean early on or so you know, I'd show
Speaker 1: some love to S and S and doop for early
Speaker 1: on in my career, you know, for being inspirations. You
Speaker 1: mentioned like not having bandwidth to do a lot. You
Speaker 1: still you still do a shave forty five? Is it
Speaker 1: Sunday nights, Friday Friday nights? So you're still I mean
Speaker 1: you're still You're still doing a radio show. Are you
Speaker 1: still voice in radio stations? Imaging? I still do that.
Speaker 1: You got the label, you're putting music out, You're doing
Speaker 1: just a lot. At what sacrifice has what has been
Speaker 1: the biggest sacrifice you've had to make in the last
Speaker 1: twenty years, because it could be time. I mean you
Speaker 1: have grown like a grown daughter, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like is it time with the kids? Absolutely? Family life.
Speaker 1: That was probably the biggest sacrifice was was father time.
Speaker 1: Like there was a lot of times you know during
Speaker 1: my kids like earlier obviously not so much these days
Speaker 1: because they're older. But you know that I was gone
Speaker 1: a lot and I was on the road like summer
Speaker 1: tours or just like on the weekends, so you know
Speaker 1: that time you can't get back. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: it also benefited for them because they live a very
Speaker 1: good life and you know, have a very good lifestyle.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's probably the biggest sacrifice that
Speaker 1: you make in this business. What is some pointers you
Speaker 1: can give in terms of time management and just like
Speaker 1: things you've learned over the years to where you're kind
Speaker 1: of like making sure you're because time is the most
Speaker 1: valuable currency, I think absolutely, Like, like, you know, you
Speaker 1: got so much shit that you're doing on a day
Speaker 1: to day basis, Like you know, like what are the
Speaker 1: things the practice as you do? Because I got so
Speaker 1: much you going on, I'm trying to figure outw to
Speaker 1: fit in all kinds of shit. Bro, I'd be wearing
Speaker 1: myself then, you know what I'm saying. So, like, is
Speaker 1: there anything that you've kind of figured out over the
Speaker 1: years that like is helpful in terms of productivity and
Speaker 1: being able to kind of do so much? I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot, you know, there's I mean, first of
Speaker 1: all like self preservation, like you know, eating clean, drinking
Speaker 1: a lot of water, you know, getting sleep, like those things,
Speaker 1: working out, Like those things definitely are important in truthfully
Speaker 1: anyone's line of work or at this stage in life.
Speaker 1: I could not have done it without the people around me,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: be here if it wasn't for Lake, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like when you know, we've known each other
Speaker 1: for twenty five twenty six years, but like when he
Speaker 1: came into the picture in a business sense in my career,
Speaker 1: like I think we really really meshed and you know,
Speaker 1: we we were able to really like you know, create
Speaker 1: and put together some amazing things. Like you know, I
Speaker 1: just give him a lot of credit when it comes
Speaker 1: to the creative side, when it comes to the business side,
Speaker 1: when it just comes to intellect, like he's he's literally
Speaker 1: probably you know, one of, if not the smartest people
Speaker 1: I know. And besides him, you know, just in general,
Speaker 1: having a good team of people around you, having good
Speaker 1: people around you in general, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is very important. Like obviously I don't do this by myself,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can't manage it all
Speaker 1: on your own, you know, So salute to the whole
Speaker 1: generational staff. You know, of course, you know, Canon has
Speaker 1: always been very pivotable, pivotal, pivotable Is that the right word? Pivotabal? Pivotal, pivotal, pivotal,
Speaker 1: can it has been very pivotal. Excuse me? You know,
Speaker 1: he's my he's my right hand, Like, you know, we've
Speaker 1: built the empire together, and then what else is there?
Speaker 1: You know, definitely some time to yourself, have you learned
Speaker 1: to say no to more shit? You know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a real yes guy in a lot of ways. Like
Speaker 1: there because you're like, I don't want to leave no
Speaker 1: money on the table. Yeah, but I mean it definitely
Speaker 1: has to be the right money. Like I'm not scrounging
Speaker 1: for a dollar, you know what I'm saying. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think the key to a lot of my success
Speaker 1: is a yes in a way. But and when I
Speaker 1: say that, I don't want to just say that I'm
Speaker 1: just like out here just doing whatever, but like a
Speaker 1: yes in a way of like people still find it surprising.
Speaker 1: Like I might just meet a person and they'll tell
Speaker 1: me they are artists, and I'm like, here, take my number, right,
Speaker 1: and I'll give them my number and like you know,
Speaker 1: I might not necessarily answer, but you know, at the
Speaker 1: same time they send me, they'll send me shit and
Speaker 1: I'll look at it. And the fact you're giving your
Speaker 1: number out is crazy. Yeah, I mean, like, yo, this
Speaker 1: is Lake, Like I've definitely done you know that Lake
Speaker 1: definitely gets calls like Yo, who is fucking who was
Speaker 1: so and so? Who is Green Valley Monster spa day?
Speaker 1: Like what a rap name? I don't know? Hey, was
Speaker 1: there ever last question before you get out of here?
Speaker 1: Was there ever a tape that you said no to
Speaker 1: because maybe the money wasn't right or they weren't quite
Speaker 1: there yet that you regretted later because the money wasn't right,
Speaker 1: Like maybe somebody tried to get against the girls from you,
Speaker 1: but at that time maybe they weren't maybe they weren't
Speaker 1: on your radar and or they couldn't make the business
Speaker 1: make sense. But later on you were like dance honestly
Speaker 1: the only the only one of that like that for
Speaker 1: me and people find this is very shocking, Like Rick
Speaker 1: Ross does not have against the girls, and like there
Speaker 1: was a period of time when I think they're like
Speaker 1: deaf jam came to me about doing the tape, and
Speaker 1: there was a number on the table, and and and
Speaker 1: at the time I wasn't handling my business, but they
Speaker 1: didn't want to pay for the tape, and so it
Speaker 1: didn't happen. But honestly, I would have done a Rick
Speaker 1: Ross tape just on the strength of, yeah, it's Ross,
Speaker 1: Like he's got classic mixtape one thousand, like, so I
Speaker 1: would have did that, Like it's it's shocking to me
Speaker 1: to think that Ross doesn't have like a Gangster Girls
Speaker 1: like he's not part and and mind you like that's
Speaker 1: my guy. We've I've done records for him, you know,
Speaker 1: he's done records for me, like we we've we've worked,
Speaker 1: we've worked a lot throughout the years, but we don't
Speaker 1: have a Gangster Girls together. So that's kind of shocking.
Speaker 1: Is that something like now that you're back in this bag,
Speaker 1: are you trying to seek out tapes where you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I know that, like I'm hot, Like the Gangster Girls
Speaker 1: brand is as hot as it's been in the last
Speaker 1: you know, in fifteen years. Maybe I now now like
Speaker 1: approach Ross, or maybe I now approach there are there
Speaker 1: are some people that I've like put kites out to like, yo, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, now's the time. Now's the time. For sure. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But the majority of the time, I'm getting a lot
Speaker 1: of phone calls and good phone calls, so it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I got another one coming. That's crazy, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah on the way. Yeah, it's done, it's done's done.
Speaker 1: What state are they from? What state? Oh? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: give it away? I can't oh in that case, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't tell you. You would give it away.
Speaker 1: It's not Georgia. I can't tell you the state. It's
Speaker 1: definitely not Georgia. It's definitely not Tennessee. It's definitely not Florida.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not California. Yeah, it's not it give it away. Huh.
Speaker 1: It would wouldn't be Louisiana. It would give it away.
Speaker 1: It would. It would give it away. Yeah, we get
Speaker 1: it would give it it would. It would put it
Speaker 1: in a box of like you would. Yeah, you would
Speaker 1: figure it out. It would give it away. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll find out off camera, because I will guess this
Speaker 1: correctly on camera. If you give me a couple of
Speaker 1: it's not Michigan. That means that they kind of have
Speaker 1: to be like the face of where they're from, and
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of other ship going on from
Speaker 1: where this person's from. Even when I even if I
Speaker 1: were to tell you, it would still take you a second,
Speaker 1: but then you would figure it out. Or let's put
Speaker 1: it like this, if I was to say it, they
Speaker 1: would figure it out. Georgia, You're you're never gonna get it,
Speaker 1: so you might you might as well just ask another question. Well,
Speaker 1: you're definitely not doing you're not doing one with tech nine.
Speaker 1: Are you from fucking Kansas City? I don't know. Hmm. Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: we're kind of getting into the region. I see. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're getting into the region. Are we any hands up?
Speaker 1: I don't think any here. M okay, Well, let me
Speaker 1: get a list of the fifty states, so then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you one guest outside of that one. Uh
Speaker 1: fave y oh push a T okay? Okay, Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: up with the Pushy T ship? Yeah? I just got
Speaker 1: into a fucking serious argument with Jim Jones on video
Speaker 1: about them saying that pusha T doesn't deserve to be
Speaker 1: in the top fifty. Ever, it's sucking as Yes, push
Speaker 1: Mazzi's on my album. By the way, Free Mazzi, Free Mazzi. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what's up with the pusha T Gangster Gross? It's
Speaker 1: in it works? Is it like started? Uh? Yes, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Is it gonna come before after this album? He keeps
Speaker 1: talking about it's gonna come before his album, so it's
Speaker 1: coming to yeah, almost finished. I can't say that. I
Speaker 1: can't answer that, did you guys? Kind of are you
Speaker 1: looking at states? I said, literally what I'm doing, I mean, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be Jack Harlowe wouldn't be. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to think of like a rapper that's hot right now
Speaker 1: from a random fucking place. I mean, it's not I
Speaker 1: know who it is. You don't who could use against
Speaker 1: the grills right now? Who could use one? I'll tell
Speaker 1: you who could use against the grills. The baby could
Speaker 1: use against the grills right now, shout to the baby.
Speaker 1: It's not it. The baby could use it as grills.
Speaker 1: We've talked, we've talked. There's nobody from Utah, it's nobody
Speaker 1: from from my all right, listen, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: just tell me off the fucking came, of course, yeah
Speaker 1: once once. The interviews are from Missouri. Who what other
Speaker 1: cities are in Missouri. What's that Saint Louis Mmmm, continued, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta think that's gonna fox some shuit up too, Like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, Dirk, Dirk, Dirk has like three Gangster Girls
Speaker 1: under his belt. See, I'm fucking I'm not a little
Speaker 1: Dirk fan. So I also like, don't like, it's not
Speaker 1: like I'm not not a fan, but I'm also like,
Speaker 1: I'm not like running too a gangster girls from Little
Speaker 1: Dirk from I'm sure what that was like twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen, Like, yeah, I'm just not interested at that time.
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, shouts shout uh to Dirk. Though, well, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you pulling up the new albums coming in April. Nah,
Speaker 1: three thirty one, three thirty oh ship, Yeah it's coming
Speaker 1: real soon. Yeah, it's on the way. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to hear the Blast and Nipsey song. Can't wait for
Speaker 1: you there, can't wait for you to see this roll
Speaker 1: out too. I'm actually gonna show you after this interview
Speaker 1: and then another Gangs d is coming, then another one,
Speaker 1: then then a possible deluxe have you and Dj Khaled
Speaker 1: ever screamed on the same song. Yes, okay, that's all
Speaker 1: last thing. Yep, we've screamed on the same song. Which one?
Speaker 1: Which song was that? We've both been on raw song together.
Speaker 1: We both were on a case Sleay song together. Rest
Speaker 1: in Peace man. Yep, I did the hook. I think
Speaker 1: cal it rapped. I'm glad he stopped doing that. What. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of dope though, if you think
Speaker 1: about it, because then it gives you something to perform
Speaker 1: when you have true you know what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: you think I'm not full? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 1: You know, if I could rap, I would do it.
Speaker 1: You never rapped, there's not. Recently though, I've been making
Speaker 1: my ship rhyme a little more. No, I'm lying. I
Speaker 1: had I did Wait well, I did a I did
Speaker 1: a hook for scheme. There's a scheme record where I
Speaker 1: did the hook for and then what happened to scheme?
Speaker 1: He's just been working such a talented guy, amazing talent,
Speaker 1: amazing talent. We're gonna we're gonna put something together. Shout
Speaker 1: out to scheme. Yeah, that's my brother. I appreciate you man.
Speaker 1: Three point thirty one. Yeah, I'm really like that. I'm
Speaker 1: really like that new single out right now with a
Speaker 1: little baby and a boogie hope for me, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: let's end the interview so I can get the answer
Speaker 1: to this other fucking it and bother me DJ, how
Speaker 1: at me? I'm really like that