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Speaker 1: celebrated last Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium, Robert Mathis will

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Speaker 1: She shows up her lovely personality. We love Miss Lara Overton.

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Speaker 1: It's it's all JJ all the time there and all

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Speaker 1: one of the stars of the HBO series Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 1: How are you I'm good, I'm good. Facinda, But you're

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Speaker 1: getting there, bro, and hard Knocks don't we You're getting

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Speaker 1: Now listen, I gotta start and I'm just gonna start

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Speaker 1: with the heavy hits and it's uh thirty eight thirty

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Speaker 1: the fireworks went off. Mate. Here's what I love about I.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to mate, if you're listening to

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Speaker 1: Brodrick and war games. Man, you're bringing all the analytics.

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Speaker 1: And I do agree with you, j J. I do

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Speaker 1: able to win in different ways. If you have one

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Speaker 1: just with Jonathan Taylor, then teams are going to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, at least the good teams who have the

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Speaker 1: what the Colts have is an offense that can win

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Speaker 1: in different ways. We hadn't seen this version of the

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Speaker 1: needed it, but it's there. And again, like I look

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Speaker 1: at these turnovers, and yet there's lack of execution on them.

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Speaker 1: But that if it was just Carson Wentz getting picked

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Speaker 1: over again, that would be one thing. But that's not

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Speaker 1: what it was. It was. I mean, Carson Wentz, I

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Speaker 1: don't even think you can really ascribe blame to him

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Speaker 1: for the strip sack and then the interception to Pittman.

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Speaker 1: You want him throwing that bottom Pittman. You absolutely want

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Speaker 1: him looking for Kyl and Grantson, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: was beating Lavante David on that play that had the

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Speaker 1: strip Zac could have been a touchdown very well could

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Speaker 1: have been a touchdown on that play. And this is

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Speaker 1: this is where I'm not worried about this team, even

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Speaker 1: at six and six, even with the margin of era

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Speaker 1: when you zoom out, they just went toe to toe

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Speaker 1: tie it. I mean, this team is one or two

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Speaker 1: plays away from winning that game. And you can say

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Speaker 1: for these those games to turn and do a win

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Speaker 1: It's not that far off. I agree with you, and

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Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: any more negative things could have happened to the Colts

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Speaker 1: in that second half, and they still almost overcame adversity

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Speaker 1: and they still almost won that game. You're exactly right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, thirty one points with four turnovers, Who does that, right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how good this offense is right now.

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Speaker 1: And if they just clean up these little things, they're

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Speaker 1: one to make the playoffs. But they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: start closing these games out. And going back to the

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Speaker 1: RPO conversation, you know, if you want to get nitpicky,

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Speaker 1: too many RPOs, or if you want to make that

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Speaker 1: RPO on first down against a loaded box, obviously that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a pass. So just call a design run

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Speaker 1: and see if you can get three to four yards

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Speaker 1: and stay on schedule for second down. I get that

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Speaker 1: conversation to a degree. But going forward, what's going to

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Speaker 1: be interesting now is the Buccaneers did it to the

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Speaker 1: Colts and they had a reasonable amount of success. Now

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Speaker 1: I understand the Buccaneers stop the run just about as

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Speaker 1: good as anybody in the league, or maybe better. But

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Speaker 1: it's a copycat league. So now going forward, are we

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Speaker 1: going to see the Texans try to duplicate what they

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Speaker 1: did the Buccaneers did to the Colts. Are we going

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Speaker 1: to see the Raiders do what Tampa Bay had success with.

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna be something to watch out for now

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Speaker 1: going forward. I think RPOs are here to stay in

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Speaker 1: this offense, and it's a good way to move the

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Speaker 1: ball when teams are selling out to stop the run,

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Speaker 1: when they're loading the box against this Colts defense or

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Speaker 1: Colts offense, I should say guided by Jonathan Taylor. That's

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor Voice the Colts, Lara Overton, JJ Stankovits. Follow

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Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Maytay Colts at Lara Overton at

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Speaker 1: JJ Stankovitz. I'm not going to go backwards. We're looking

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Speaker 1: forward to Houston. But before we do, we need to

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Speaker 1: find an answer anytime Gronk is at Lucas Oil Stadium

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Speaker 1: because he simply filled this defense with the expertise of

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Speaker 1: him and Brady. But I digress. I move on to Houston.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw this out for the room. Mattay,

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Speaker 1: let's start with you. The biggest game this season is

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Speaker 1: coming up in Houston. The reason I say that is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh the Colts a waltz over them. They're terrible. That

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Speaker 1: hold on Houston beat Tennessee. I know they were dinged

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Speaker 1: up and everything we're gonna find out about that Houston

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Speaker 1: team coming up with John McClean from the Houston Chronoville.

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Speaker 1: But guys, the importance of this game and what it

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Speaker 1: means with a loss, what it means with a win. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I mean, I think you're right. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: the Texans are playing much better than when we saw

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Speaker 1: them way back in week number six. It's almost like

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Speaker 1: a different team. I mean October seventeenths at Lucas Oil

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Speaker 1: Stadium when the Colts won thirty one to three. That

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Speaker 1: might as well be ten years ago. And they've given

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Speaker 1: up seventeen points thirteen points at Tennessee, by the way

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Speaker 1: in a win, and then twenty one points in a

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Speaker 1: loss to the Jets. So defensively they're playing better at

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Speaker 1: least output wi Im Lovey Smith is obviously doing a

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Speaker 1: good job from his defensive coordinator positions. And they've made

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Speaker 1: a bunch of roster moves, you know. They they've had

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Speaker 1: a lot of injuries and they're just kind of bringing

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Speaker 1: of just seeing what sticks here as they rebuild their franchise.

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Speaker 1: They're two and nine guys are playing for their jobs,

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Speaker 1: they're playing for pride. But they would love to spoil

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Speaker 1: this party on the Colts, just like they almost did

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Speaker 1: twice last year. Remember, the Texans came within what a

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Speaker 1: total of six yards of sweet of sweeping the Colts.

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Speaker 1: So it's not going to be laup. They never are

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Speaker 1: inside the AFC South. It's a huge game because it's

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Speaker 1: the next game, it's a division game, but again, the

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Speaker 1: Colts margin for air is so so slim. You've got

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Speaker 1: to beat the Texans, You've gotta beat the Jaguars, two

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Speaker 1: teams record wise that you know you should take care of.

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Speaker 1: But any given Sunday in this league, man, And so

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Speaker 1: they've got a new quarterback now, and Tyrod Taylor it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be the rookie got of Stanford, you know.

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Speaker 1: So he does have experience, he does have the knowledge

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Speaker 1: and the forty two to beat the Colts team and

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Speaker 1: take advantage of this defense. And one thing that I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for is the Colts defense. They gave up what

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Speaker 1: a buck forty on the ground to the Buccaneers. And

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Speaker 1: you talk about Gronk having a big game. Fournette ran

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Speaker 1: for one hundred yards and you have four touchdowns. I

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Speaker 1: mean that just that just can't happen if you're If

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Speaker 1: you would have asked me before that game, which of

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Speaker 1: their you know, above average players would have a big

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Speaker 1: game against the Colts, Fournette would have been the last

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Speaker 1: guy I would have said, you know, I would have

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Speaker 1: said maybe Evans or Gronk, But it was Fournette who

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Speaker 1: had a huge, huge game against the Colts. And they

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Speaker 1: got to stop the run the Colts. That's been their

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Speaker 1: hallmark really, you know, since twenty eighteen under Matt Everflus.

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Speaker 1: But that number is sort of creeping up here. It's

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Speaker 1: ballooning up on the Colts defense. We'll see if DeForrest

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Speaker 1: Buckner can play, that'll help against Houston. But Houston had

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Speaker 1: a good game running the ball back in week number

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Speaker 1: six against the Colts. I think they had one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty four yards on the ground against the Colts

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Speaker 1: in the first game. So that's that's what I'm watching,

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Speaker 1: is Iirod Taylor on offense. Can the Colts rush defense

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Speaker 1: improve and you know, can you just make enough plays

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Speaker 1: against the bad football team that's two and nine that's

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Speaker 1: trying to you know, spoil your playoff folks. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's Matt Taylor voice and the Colts appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the great work on hard knocks. And the

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Speaker 1: most important thing that you're going to get from from

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Speaker 1: this chat is Lara is back next week. Okay, no

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Speaker 1: more Gorman working with you like that. So Lara is

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Speaker 1: back next week. Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Follow him on Twitter at may take Colts appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: my friend. All right, you guys are the best. Well,

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Speaker 1: we welcome on from the Houston Chronicle. He's been covering

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Speaker 1: this game, this Sunday professional game for almost fifty years.

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Speaker 1: He can be heard on Sports Radio six ten in Houston.

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Speaker 1: The legendary John McClean joins us, how are you, sir?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, guys, Happy holidays, Thank you, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. I mean, I'm gonna do the broad First question,

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about these Texans over all as a

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Speaker 1: franchise foundationally speaking, is there some bright spots to look

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Speaker 1: forward to? Possibly next season the season after that? Where

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Speaker 1: are the Houston Texans in this day and age as

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Speaker 1: far as the future goes? As we speak, they are

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Speaker 1: second in line for making that high draft choice, and

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Speaker 1: they've had the first overall pick three times, quarterback David

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Speaker 1: carn No. Two, defensive end Mario Williams oh six defensive

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Speaker 1: end Daveon Clowney twenty fourteen. They need a quarterback, but

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Speaker 1: right now there's no quarterback worth that pick. General manager

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Speaker 1: Nick Caserio is putting this team through a total rebuild,

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Speaker 1: and when I say total, I mean total, and they

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Speaker 1: need a lot of players. They have their first round

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Speaker 1: pick for the first time in three years. Last year

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Speaker 1: they did well. This year, they didn't have a second

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Speaker 1: round pick either, So Cassario I wrote a column today

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Speaker 1: of about his first draft. They've flashed enough to bode

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Speaker 1: well for the next one that he knows what he's doing,

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Speaker 1: even though he's a gem for the first time in

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Speaker 1: his twenty one your career, the first twenty with the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: And so this team next year they won't recognize it.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of players who are not here from

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Speaker 1: that first game against the Goals that calls one thirty

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Speaker 1: one to three. So it's a revolving door at NRG Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and this is not a one or two year process.

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Speaker 1: I figure if they make all the right moves, it'll

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Speaker 1: be two twenty three before they're competitive. So one of

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Speaker 1: those guys who was not here for that game at

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Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium, Tyrod Taylor. He'll start a quarterback this

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Speaker 1: weekend for the Texans. Davids Mills started that game back

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Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium. Did not have a very good day,

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Speaker 1: to say the least. But what can you tell us

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Speaker 1: about Tyrod Taylor. Obviously, you know, we know him, he's

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Speaker 1: feel like John, I see highlights in Houston and Tyrod

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Speaker 1: he's running in for scores. But then they're you know,

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Speaker 1: about Tyrod Taylor? Yeah, that that Jets loss, in which

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Speaker 1: they were favored for the first time this year, probably

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Speaker 1: the only time this year, about three points. I thought

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Speaker 1: they were gonna win. They jumped out fourteen three, Taylor

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Speaker 1: better since they gave up too long touchdown passes to

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Speaker 1: the Colts. They've not done that since they've given. They

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Speaker 1: haven't given up more than two touchdowns in a game

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Speaker 1: in the last three games, and a lot of that

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Speaker 1: had to do with the talent the Dolphins and then

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Speaker 1: an injury depleted Titans and then the Jets. But they

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Speaker 1: can't protect their Their offensive line has been awful and

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Speaker 1: that it's so strange. They played the Titans and gave

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Speaker 1: up no sacks. I was going against Aryl Landry, Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Simmons and then Eco Autry. All of them they had ten,

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Speaker 1: seven half and five sacks and they got rid of

641
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: the ball. Quig Taylor moved a lot, but no sacks.

642
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Speaker 1: And they come back to the Jets and give up five,

643
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: just like they've given up five to the Dolphins before

644
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: they played the Titans. So their offensive line is not good.

645
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Speaker 1: Day of the worst running team in the history of

646
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: Houston Pro Football, and we look it up every week.

647
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: They're lasting rushing. Last year they were thirty first. Only

648
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: the Steelers were behind them. And they made changes, new

649
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: offensive line, coach, a lot of new players, new scheme.

650
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: They still can't run and one of the reasons is

651
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: the backs that they have, and so they they're best

652
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: runner is Styrod Taylor. He had a thirty yard run

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Speaker 1: against the Jets, and the Colts will have to be

654
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: aware of him taking off. They don't have many design runs.

655
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Speaker 1: Every once in a while bootleg, but he's very smart

656
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Speaker 1: and if he gets time to throw. He's problem is

657
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: teams are bled sing them, they can't pick it up

658
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: and then they're getting steamrolled up front. So I'll look

659
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Speaker 1: for the Colts to win this game decisively, and but

660
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: they at least with Taylor in the lineup. They've scored

661
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the last two games, and that's a

662
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: big deal for them to score two touchdowns and John

663
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: We've seen the Colts defense really have some problems, have

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Speaker 1: a tough task against the more mobile quarterbacks who have

665
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: the tendency to work the boot and roll out the

666
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: way that they do. Of course, looking good, they looked

667
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: good against the Buffalo Bills and containing Josh Allen, but

668
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: earlier in the season that was something that gave this

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Speaker 1: defense a bit of fits and the Texans snapped an

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Speaker 1: eight game losing streak, helping to hand Tennessee back to

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Speaker 1: back losses for the first time this season. Have we

672
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: just seen this Texans team have a bit of Jekyll

673
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: and hide type of tendency in which they've been able

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Speaker 1: to step up and have a nine point win over

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, but also struggle against other teams like

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00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: you saw against the Jet. I said before they played

677
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: the Titans, the only way the Titans had lose that

678
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: game as if everybody got food poisoning. And then I

679
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: do a weekly radio show in Nashville and they asked

680
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: me I did up, and I said, they all got

681
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: food poisoning, explaining and so the only thing the Colts

682
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: got to worry about in this game is boredom, you know,

683
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: taking them lightly. That's the kind of thing a head

684
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: coach goes crazy if you bring up. But if you

685
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: watch the win the Colts have watched the tape of

686
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: the Texans, you know, they see an offense that can't

687
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: run at all, and so if you can't run, that

688
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: puts so much pressure on the quarterback, and then if

689
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: you're inconsistent protecting him. It's amazing they moved the ball

690
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: at all. And then defensively, they had ten interceptions five

691
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: and five and back to back games against Miami and Tennessee.

692
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: They intercepted Ryan Tannehill three times in a four the quarter,

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Speaker 1: two times down by the ends on worst game Tenny

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00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: I'll ever played. So they come back and they only

695
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: have one turnover in the game against the Jets. They're

696
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: in a position where they have to force turnovers to

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00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: have a chance to win. They had five at Miami

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00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: and still got beat seventeen nine because they the offense

699
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: struggle is so bad, and so I don't think that

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Speaker 1: I can't say they're not capable of winning because they

701
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: did beat the Titans. But when I say the Titans

702
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: are decimated by injuries, I haven't seen many teams that

703
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: you know if you're missing your receivers. They played a

704
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: j Brown, he got hurt on the first series. He's

705
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: on our They were playing guys at receiver. I had

706
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: to look them up, had no clue who they were.

707
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: And then of course they're missing Derrek Henry. But that

708
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: kind of was a surprise. And I'll guarantee if Frank

709
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: Roch is showing them that Titans tape saying enough, this

710
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: is what can happen if you get food poisoning. Hey,

711
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: John McLean joins us. Follow him on Twitter at McLean

712
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: underscore on Underscore NFL. That's McLean Underscore on Underscore NFL.

713
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you, John about David Culley

714
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: and the job that he did coming into a situation

715
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: that he did with the Deshaun Watson drama. What kind

716
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: of job has he done in your opinion? Obviously the

717
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: winds aren't there, but you know they're trying to keep

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Speaker 1: this ship afloat. They brought in David Culley, who had

719
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: never been a coordinator and never had an interview for

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00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: a head coaching job. They hired him over Leslie Frasier,

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00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: the Bill's defensive coordinator, and we believe one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons they did it they wanted somebody at the opposite

723
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: end of the personality spectrum is Bill O'Brien. When O'Brien

724
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: got fired last year after oh four start, everybody was

725
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: walking on eggshells. Bill's temper was worse than it had

726
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: ever been. He blew up and everybody and the owner,

727
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Cal McNair did not think that was conducive to what

728
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: he needed when you were in that situation, and so

729
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: they fired him, and they elevated Romeo Carnell, their defensive coordinator,

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00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: and so Cully Cully, and I'll tell you this, I

731
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: have never met a finer man. He's honest. We ask

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00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: him questions and he'll tell us, and sometimes he tells

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00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: us without his asking, and he doesn't mind being critical,

734
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: but it's constructive criticism. And of course he starts with himself.

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Speaker 1: But he is a picture of positivity and they needed that.

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Speaker 1: They needed somebody to come in who everybody respects. I

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00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: don't know anybody that doesn't like David Culley. Now as

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00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: a coach, he's made some game management decisions that were bad,

739
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: but almost every coach does that. You know, if you

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00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: think about it, how many times do we have a

741
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: head coach that we're not second guest in them? And

742
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: Frank right, I remember that time and that overtime victory

743
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: at ERG Stadium. I game remember what it was he

744
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: went for and didn't kick the field goal. Everybody second

745
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: guessed him when the Texans wanted. So all coaches get

746
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: second guests. Cully's doing it for the first time. Players

747
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: like him respect him. Problem is he didn't have a

748
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: lot of talent. He didn't have much talent at all.

749
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Speaker 1: And the roster turnover is not the constant turnovers not

750
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: what you need for commnuity. Sere's people here saying, oh,

751
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: he'll be one and done. They'd be grossly unfair to

752
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: bring in a coach and stick him with this kind

753
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: of roster and then firing him after one year. I

754
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: think he ought to get at least three years to

755
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: see if he can turn it around. And this team

756
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 1: needs talent. They got nine draft choices after having five

757
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: this year, and they're figure to have more because finally,

758
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: we hope they trade to Shaun Watson, and Cully needs

759
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: to be back next year to see what he can

760
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: do with a younger roster. They decided this year to

761
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: try to build a culture, so they brought in veterans,

762
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans, and hoping they could establish it.

763
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: Cully has suspended three players for disciplinary violations. We'd never

764
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: see that. Usually they just get fined. Justin Reid, their

765
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: best defensive back, set out the Jets game because he

766
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: violated a team rule. And so Cully he's not gonna

767
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: win games with his coaching because he doesn't have the talent.

768
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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what at the end of that

769
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee game. He grew up two miles from Nashville. He

770
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: played quarterback at Vanderbilt, had family and friends there, and

771
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, when everybody knew they

772
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: were gonna win. Players coaches were going over putting their

773
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: arms around him because they knew how much it meant

774
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: to him. But afterward he wouldn't talk about himself. It

775
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: was all about the players and coaches. And you guys know,

776
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I loved how much players love to get credit when

777
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: they win and a coach gets blamed when they lose. John,

778
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: You've been in the NFL for five decades covering the sport.

779
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a roster get turned over as

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00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: much as the Houston Texans this year? They may there

781
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: may be because I don't study the other teams like

782
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: I do this one. And they gave nickols Sario a

783
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: six year contract five million a year, another five million

784
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: if they win a Super Bowl during that period, and

785
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: so he doesn't have to worry about getting fired. He

786
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: has final sale on all personnel matters. And it's amazing

787
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: how many players he's traded, how many players he's cut.

788
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes people are like, oh my goodness, I can't believe

789
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: he cut that guy, or trade he traded mark Ingram.

790
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: They're leading Russer to New Orleans for a seventh round

791
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: pick in two twenty three. But they couldn't run the

792
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: ball with him. They can't run the ball without him,

793
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: And he'll probably include that pick in some deal in

794
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: two twenty three, and it's nobody is immune. And so

795
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: I've never seen it in Houston's football history. And you know,

796
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: you hope as a fan that he has a plan obviously,

797
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: and he's got to get a quarterback. You know, when

798
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: he was hired the first week of January, everybody thought

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00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: they had their quarterback and had come out nationally released

800
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: by people close to Watson that he wanted to be traded.

801
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: At the time, they were coming off a terrible season,

802
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: and so everybody thinks, Okay, he'll get over it. He didn't,

803
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: and so they got to start over. And tell you what,

804
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: you guys know, last year with Watson, they almost beat

805
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: the Colts two times, got down there inside the five

806
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: yard line to beat him and turned it over. And

807
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have to worry about that this season. John,

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00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: When you mentioned Deshaun Watson, how close were the Texans

809
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: to reaching a deal to trade him this year and

810
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: if they move forward, if they are able to strike

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00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: a deal in the future, you mentioned this whole rebuilding phase,

812
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: Where is the most likely landing spot and what do

813
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: the Texans want to get for him? Because he is

814
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback. You mentioned you know what he did

815
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: to the Colts last year. Everyone has seen what he

816
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: does to impact football team. He is a great quarterback.

817
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: Last season on a bad team. He was tremendous at

818
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: his best seasons, and every statistic and didn't translate to

819
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: victories because they had no running game in the defense

820
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: was pathetic. And when they decided to trade Watson, they

821
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: wanted three ones, two twos and a starter, preferably on defense.

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00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: And they had eight teams that were interested, so they

823
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: thought they could get them bidding against each other, Jets

824
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: and Dolphins in the same division, chasing the Bills. We

825
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: didn't know they'd be chasing the Patriots. And so then

826
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Speaker 1: the lawsuits for sexual assault and misconducts started piling up,

827
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: and there were twenty two and they're still twenty two,

828
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: and so most of the team said, when he gets

829
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: his legal issue is cleared up, we'll let us know.

830
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: We'll be interested and add to the draft. There were

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00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: four teams that had consistently showed interest, Miami, Philadelphia, Denver,

832
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: in Carolina, some others sniffed around, but none of them

833
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: except Philadelphia made a serious offer. And Watson has in

834
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: his contract to no trade clause. It's kind of thing

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00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: you don't think about when you're signing a four year,

836
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty six million extension. They asked for

837
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: one share, we're not on trade him, we'll put it

838
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: in there. So he rejected the Eagles, and so he

839
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: told them he only wanted to go to Miami. People

840
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: are why in the world what he wanted to go

841
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: to Dolphins, And we think that it's a lot having

842
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: to do with South Florida. He likes to go there

843
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: and he can kind of disappear there were here he can't.

844
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: And so the Dolphins were the only team that showed

845
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: serious interests. They were right on the version of trading

846
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: him for three ones and at three and a five.

847
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: And then the owner, Stephen Ross, got cold feet a

848
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: week before said he wasn't going to do it unless

849
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: he reached settlements with his accusers. And he had never

850
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: tried to do it because I was told he thought

851
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: reaching settlements mentre guilty, and he didn't think he's guilty.

852
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: But about five days before the trade deadline on a Tuesday,

853
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: they decided to try, and they couldn't get all twenty

854
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: two to agree to sufficient settlements. The attorney said, a

855
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: lot of it had to do because the language. They

856
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: wanted non disclosures, and two or three of the victims

857
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: wanted to be able to tell their story, and so

858
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: they were not able to do it, and Stephen Ross said,

859
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: we're not going to do it. So the trade deadline

860
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: came and went. Now they can resume on March sixteenth,

861
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: start of the new year, and I expect to think

862
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: about it if he gets these issues cleared up, because

863
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: right now they're just starting to do depositions. NFL is

864
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: still investigating, Euston Police is investigating, the FBI has looked

865
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: into it, and the wheels of justice, you know, they

866
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: turn really slowly. Meanwhile, he's getting paid ten point five

867
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: four million a year to come to work, go to meetings,

868
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: work out on his own left, and do everything he's

869
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: supposed to do because he wants to be ready. And

870
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: so I think when the time comes, you'll still have Miami.

871
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: Unless two it continues to get better. Caroline at Denver,

872
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: maybe Pittsburgh, maybe Seattle, maybe Detroit, maybe the Giants he's

873
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: not going to prove going to Detroit, and we're curious

874
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: the Giants right now, I would have two top ten picks,

875
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: and we're curious would he agree to go to the

876
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: Giants if the Giants were interested, because he would give

877
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: them instant credibility on the football field. So they're all

878
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: kinds of possibilities. I'm so glad I have worried about

879
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: it before Mart's sixteenth, and I expect if he's traded,

880
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: he will be It'll be sometime close to the draft.

881
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: One quick follow up just from me. You mentioned Deshaun

882
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: has he been pretty locked in the meeting rooms from

883
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: everything that you've heard. Has he really been involved despite

884
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: not playing this season? According to what David Gulley and

885
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: several players. We haven't asked him a while because it

886
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: was twenty four to seven news through training camp and

887
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: through early this season. Then now it's just kind of

888
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: moved to the back burner. But he goes to work

889
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: every day. John McLean, Houston Chronicle right there before we

890
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: cut you loose, you know, the Titans have a strangle

891
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: hold on the AFC South Colts need to kind of

892
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: win out or possibly drop one and sneak in just

893
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: your overall thoughts of this team. I know you look

894
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 1: at the division foes and whatnot. We've got a couple

895
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: of big games coming up, but what do you like

896
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: about this team overall? Defensively, offensively, Jonathan Taylor, Carson Wentz, etc.

897
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: It was It was interesting because in the first half

898
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: against the Texans, Taylor didn't do squat and I thought, Wow,

899
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: the Texans are playing really good run defense. Then he

900
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: got three loose on that eighty three yard run. He's

901
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: been on a tear ever since. I'm writing a column

902
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: this week. The Texans need to find the Jonathan Taylor

903
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: after the first round because they got to get a

904
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: legitimate running back and I'm gonna talk about his development

905
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: what he did against the Texans. The Colts, to me,

906
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: they're a wild card contender. I picked the Titans to

907
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: run away with a division before the season and the

908
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Coats to make a wild card. And the thing is,

909
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: it is so exciting this year because there's not a

910
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: dominant team, even though Arizona right now has the best record,

911
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: and they've done in the last three games two and

912
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: one without Kyler Murne DeAndre Hopkins. So then in Green

913
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: Bay appear to be the best in the NFC, and

914
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: right now I'm not so sure. Kansas City is not

915
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: the best team in the AFC. On a winning street

916
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: defense hadn't given up more than seventeen points in the

917
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: last four games. And then the Patriots are on a roll.

918
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: But they still have a rookie quarterback who they still

919
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: kind of baby throws a short pass, it goes for

920
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: forty yard touchdown, looks great on the stats. I don't

921
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: see them going to the super Bowl, but were the

922
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: running game, especially coats got to go outdoors in January.

923
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: I think that boats very well for them. They got

924
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: to stay healthy up front. Legend from the Houston Chronicle.

925
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: You can hear them on sixten in Houston Sports Radio

926
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: six ten. That is John McClean before we let you go.

927
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: If you've been talking to your agent out in Hollywood.

928
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: You've got eight movies under your belt, The Rookie, the

929
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Longest Yard, spring Breakers, don't forget about Secretariat, which I

930
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: loved you. And you got any new movies that are

931
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: coming up in twenty twenty two, we can look forward to, Yeah,

932
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: and Secretariat. I had a line with Diane Cannon and

933
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: they cut it out, and I told the director, you

934
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: didn't get one hundred million because you cut out in

935
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: my line. I got a bad got We took three

936
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: of us, took a picture with the director and Dyan Lane.

937
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: I had my people at the chronicle crop out everybody

938
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: but me and Diane Lane, and we ran it online

939
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: like we're co starring in the movie and people all

940
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: guys love Diane Lane. And I got so much feedback

941
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: on that. But no, I have a bad agent. Had

942
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: mad Any offers a sep a chance to go play

943
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: a judge on The Young and the Wrestler, Yes, and

944
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it because I had had shoulder surgery

945
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: and couldn't travel. That was three years ago. So I

946
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: need a new agent. I think to fire, I'll have

947
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: to fire myself. Hey, keep your phone on, mister McClean,

948
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling you off kids. When I look at John McClean,

949
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: I think soap opera star. Yeah, I'd love to be

950
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: a soap opera star. I need to do. All I

951
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: need to do wear On with the right guy is audio.

952
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: All I need is audio video. John, sure appreciate the health.

953
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: Can't wait to read what you're saying about this game

954
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: coming up and again. You can follow him on Twitter

955
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: at McLean Underscore on Underscore NFL. Appreci at the time, sir,

956
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: keep up the great work, my pleasure. Guys, Happy holidays,

957
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: and thank you very much for having me. Thank you, Holliday.

958
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: John Well, it's time to end the show with a

959
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: little royalty and I love doing it with this man.

960
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: And we saw him this past weekend up in the rafters,

961
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: as they say, guys at Lucas Oil Stadium. He will

962
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: be remembered forever in the Ring of Honor. Robert Mathis

963
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,680
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966
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: these guys are on a touchdown town two. Don't forget,

967
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: so pay him a visit when you're out to the game. Robert,

968
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: so happy for you this past weekend. I know it's

969
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: a tough question, but overall, from Saturday through Sunday, seeing

970
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: your name up there for eternity, some of the feelings

971
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: you you had going on when you when you're looking

972
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: at sixty thousand plus people that are chatting your name.

973
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, Thanks for having me home, and uh, it

974
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: was it was almost a nice Muslim memory. I was

975
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: ready to go hit somebody. It was just very electric,

976
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: just very electric, and uh, a lot of a lot

977
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: of a lot of emotions. Was just it was just

978
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: throwing man happy. Uh want to cry one of them

979
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: hit something? Man, I just want to hit something. How

980
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: was it with the teammates. You haven't seen some of

981
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: your former teammates in a while. It was great up

982
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: there when Dwight Freeney and you kind of connected and said,

983
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: it's just like old times. How was that seeing everybody?

984
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: It was? It was awesome. Man. It's always a family

985
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: reunion whenever you get the guys together. We went through

986
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: so much as as players and just to see what

987
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: where guys are, guys are at and then lives. It's

988
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: just it's just awesome just to see them have fun

989
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: for for good causes and uh, support each other. So

990
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: it was awesome for me. Robert, has it sunk in

991
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: yet for you that for as long as the Indianapolis

992
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: Colts are are playing football, your name will be in

993
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: the stadium. It will be a part of this team.

994
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: Like you said, I am Indie and Indie is me.

995
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: But has that sunk in yet for you? It normally

996
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: doesn't resonate until I just sit back and reflect. So

997
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that and then the next few

998
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: days and just to see how big the magnitude of

999
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: where I am with that. So it was, I just

1000
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: can't express enough how much that meant to me, my families,

1001
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 1: and how much fun that we add. So that's something

1002
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look back, watch the videos and just happen,

1003
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: just have a good old time with myself about that.

1004
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: Plenty of videos, certainly to watch all the photos that

1005
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: you can look back on as well. And then of

1006
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: course your teammates who are there to celebrate you. A

1007
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: few of your teammates who are still out there playing

1008
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: in t Y Hilton and Jack Doyle, each of those

1009
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: guys I spoke with last week about the impact that

1010
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: you had on each of those guys as young players.

1011
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: They talked about the mentor that you are in the

1012
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: locker room, how much you helped each of them early

1013
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: on in their careers, guide them and introduce them into

1014
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. Did both those guys go out and score

1015
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns for you on that day as well? And each

1016
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: of them kind of said The best thing we can

1017
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: do to honor Robert is to play really well. How

1018
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: proud are you to see the guys who are now

1019
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: those the two most veteran guys on the roster, Jack

1020
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: t Y, some of the other guys I know who

1021
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: are close with as well, carrying that torch, that proud

1022
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: tradition that you guys have created from the decade that

1023
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: you played within this organization. Well, it's humbling because guys

1024
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: like uh, Marvin, Reggie Haydon, they taught me, and it

1025
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: was my duty to teach teach these guys. So they

1026
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: was very they were young, and they was willing to listen.

1027
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: And some of the things that they taught me I

1028
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: taught them, they're applying it and they're teaching them paying forward,

1029
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: teaching the younger guys. And so I always say Jack

1030
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: Doyle's he was my favorite teammate man, one of my

1031
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: favorite guys ever on the coach you know, teams throughout

1032
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: my career because of how he carries himself. T Y

1033
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: same thing, he just carries himself. He just learned from

1034
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: Reggie and just and apply it. So those are the

1035
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: things that I appreciate most about people like that is

1036
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: those relationships just how they just carry carry it forward

1037
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: and pay it forward. And the best way they can

1038
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: replay is teaching this guy and seeing that weekend and

1039
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: week out. Robert Matthews, you have an impact on a

1040
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: lot of players that are still playing in the game,

1041
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: and obviously with some of your former teammates. So we

1042
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: look forward this week. The Colts are down at Houston,

1043
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: a place you know very well, highlight reel, I mean

1044
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: highlight reel. Uh, you know plays that you have made

1045
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: in Houston here at the Lucas Oil Stadium against the Texans,

1046
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: and they're going head to head right now. It's like

1047
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: one team. You know, we lost that one to Tampa, Robert,

1048
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: it got away from us, and Houston's going in complete

1049
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: opposite way, even though we're on a playoff push. Right now,

1050
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: real quick, before we go over that game, what's your

1051
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: take on this Colts team. It's sitting at five hundred

1052
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: right now. Oh, the sky is still a limit. Um,

1053
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: we getting hot at the right time. We all know,

1054
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: we all know what can happen, and so I fully

1055
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: expect it to happen. And uh, a little shot at

1056
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: Houston now. I appreciate them giving up their fifth round pick. Yes,

1057
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: thank you. I just wanted to spend a career thank

1058
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: you him stage stage. I expect the team to do

1059
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: exactly what's expected. A couple of hurdles, couple of stumbling blocks,

1060
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: but I think we will get back on track. And

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00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: as long as you get hot in December and January,

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00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: that's all that matters this season. Now, yeah, for sure.

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00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: Well you're here on behalf of wind bat and we're

1064
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: going to talk about that game right now. The line

1065
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: is the Colts minus nine according to wind Beat. They

1066
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: are going on the road minus nine points against the

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00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: Houston Texans in their own barn. Mind you down there

1068
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: in Houston, what do you think the outlook for this

1069
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: game is? Who do you like? Robert Oh? I like

1070
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: my guys. Okay, a day and when they said what

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00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: they said, and the numbers will be met. The numbers

1072
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: will be met courtesy a win bet. Don't forget. They

1073
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: throw a great party every Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium

1074
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: in Touchdowntown as well as up on the club level. Robert,

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00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: I can't wait, man. I always think of you when

1076
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: I see the U, when I see the Texans and

1077
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: the Colts going back after it because of the impact

1078
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: you had on one of the greatest comebacks in an

1079
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: NFL game that we've ever seen. So, man, I appreciate

1080
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: you catching up with us talking about this Colts game.

1081
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: And again, the Ring of Honor celebration was epic. Bro.

1082
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: It was incredible to see those people around you and

1083
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 1: the excitement that those fans and your teammates had for you. Man,

1084
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great when you know there's gonna be

1085
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: some more names going up there and we're gonna be

1086
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: seeing you welcoming in to wearing a blue jacket very soon.

1087
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh awesome. I think we need to take bets on

1088
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: who's the next guy? Man? I know no ken win

1089
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: bet get on that. What give me one? Give me

1090
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: one before we let you go. Who would you like

1091
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: to see up there? Oh? Man, you already know this.

1092
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: It's the goat number four or I bet you he

1093
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: goes up mix you do. Okay, that's my call, that's

1094
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: your call, go number four. That's Vanetarian. Don't forget there's

1095
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: a big fellow on the left side. There's a big

1096
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: fellow on the left side protecting Peyton Peyton's blindside. Robert, Yeah,

1097
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: absolutely sorry, Gliar long overdue, long overdue. Tell us some

1098
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: people are saying you were a bit overdue, but you

1099
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: made it and it was a great celebration. JJ Lara. Anymore,

1100
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: congratulations before we say goodbye to mister mathis nothing more

1101
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: than just congrats on being honored for the career that

1102
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: you had, rob and hey, also congrats on being named

1103
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: a semi finalist on your first year on the Pro

1104
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame ballot. How about that? One of

1105
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: seven players? O, man, it was it was. It was

1106
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: very humbling. So I just sit back and waiting and

1107
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: that's how really all I can do. But I'm thankful

1108
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: the whole the whole process. Gotta have parties for you

1109
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: and Reggie coming up in Canton. Hopeful let's go. Oh yeah,

1110
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: you know we don't turn up now, Yeah for sure, man,

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00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: Well sure appreciate it. Again. Congratulations on the ring of honor.

1112
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: So folks, keep your eyes peeled in the next you know,

1113
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: not too long future for Robert mathis wearing the gold

1114
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: jacket soon after getting presented the blue jacket. I appreciate

1115
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: the time, big man. It was great scene this weekend.

1116
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna see you more. You had the

1117
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 1: key to the Colts Kingdom. So we're gonna be seeing

1118
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: a lot of Robert matthis down at Lucas Oil Stadium.

1119
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for having me. All right, Robert mathis

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00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: right there on behalf of wind Bet. Don't forget. You

1121
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: can see him in touchdowntown as well as the wind

1122
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: Bett Club level at Lucas Oil Stadium. Folks, we were

1123
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: jam packed today thanks to Matt Taylor, John McLean and

1124
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: of course our very own Robert mathis there, Lara, JJ.

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Speaker 1: I love doing this stuff with you guys. Let's keep rolling.

1126
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk playoffs in the upcoming weeks, and let's

1127
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: keep our fingers crossed because we know what this team

1128
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: can do. Plenty of ball left, Jeffrey, Plenty of time.

1129
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: Colts are on the uphill climb right now. All right,

1130
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: got it right there? Thank you, Larra over to for

1131
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: JJ stank of its Overton again, big thanks, John McLean,

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor and Robert Matth Desime Jeffrey Gorman. This is

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: the Colts Official podcast, presented by our friends at wind

1134
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: Bet and part of the Colts Audio Network. Folks. We

1135
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: do it weekend and week out. We're gonna high erection

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Speaker 1: next week after a big Colt's victory down in Houston,