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Speaker 1: I know so many people now in their twenties who

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of that's going to come up today

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Speaker 1: And I've realized that some people find this heresy depending

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Speaker 4: Yes, the governor of California is an enemy to the

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Speaker 5: That is what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: What he's actively doing each and every single day when

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Speaker 1: And where are you going next? So we can find

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Speaker 4: Because these tax dollars don't say right or left on them.

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Speaker 4: And then the governor gets mad at the person for

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what's happening. He said that perfectly. Why

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Speaker 1: They're investigators coming in, and he should be saying, thank you,

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Speaker 6: Listen, why can't you celebrate any journalist or any you know,

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Speaker 7: To disagree or what.

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Speaker 6: But to imply that someone someone in one of the

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Speaker 6: shouldn't we agree, like, you know, eliminate all the waste

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Speaker 6: Let's call that what it is. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 8: But what's crazy to me and so many other people

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Speaker 6: It should sure, it should, Yeah, it should, it should.

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Speaker 6: You should be angry and you know, like fraud can

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Speaker 7: This is part of the thing. If you tell voters.

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Speaker 1: That's Democratic Senator John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, and he's right too.

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Speaker 1: So when doctor Oz pointed out the same fraud on

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Speaker 1: the same block, Newsom's response was, well, he's a racist

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Speaker 1: Newsom's response is, you're either a racist or you're a pedophile.

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Speaker 1: more on the vile response of Newsom against Nick Shirley,

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Speaker 1: Ethan Penner here. Ethan Penner is a very successful businessman

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Speaker 1: All right, so just tell me. It sounds like you

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Speaker 1: you are running an independent race for governor, which is unusual.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's going against the grain since we've never had

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Speaker 3: John.

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Speaker 1: By the way, thank you again for doing that investigation

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Speaker 3: And oh absolutely CBS has done Nick had. It's so

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Speaker 10: This is not about one person, It has never been

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Speaker 1: And are you getting a good response in Sacramento for this, Well.

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Speaker 3: Rest, isn't it. Isn't it great when we all agree

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why this is a political issue for Newsom.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, but that if they did something that would be

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Speaker 12: admitting defeat and that they were wrong and that they

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Speaker 12: knew this was happening. I don't know if things are

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Speaker 12: going on behind the scenes that they're trying to cover

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Speaker 12: their behinds to make sure that they're not the fall

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Speaker 12: guys for this, But truly, it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: This is not partisan this. You know, you were talking

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Speaker 3: about Democrats, Republicans and independents all being disenfranchised because they're taxpayers,

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Speaker 3: but also people that because they're fraudulently being enrolled on hospice,

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Speaker 3: they're being exposed to health risks because they're not getting

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Speaker 3: the medications they need or when they need hospice, they're

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Speaker 3: not getting hospice. I mean literally, people are dying, not

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Speaker 3: dying on the hospice, but they're dying because there's people

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Speaker 3: not on hospice that shouldn't be on hospital. The whole

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Speaker 3: thing is so backwards, and you know, I have had

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Speaker 3: media requests from across the asking me, how did I

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Speaker 3: find this?

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Speaker 11: How did I do this?

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Speaker 3: And once again it was not complicated to find And

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Speaker 3: it shows that you know, if me with a Google

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Speaker 3: search and some AI in a little bit of will

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Speaker 3: and you know Nick Shirley who has access that same information,

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Speaker 3: can suddenly make this national news. Why did did they

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Speaker 3: wait until that happened to do something about it that?

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Speaker 3: You know, they've got to own this mistake and do

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Speaker 3: something about it. And I'm really hoping taxpayers are listening

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Speaker 3: because this is not the only instance of this in

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Speaker 3: the state of California. More is coming out. So a

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Speaker 3: lot came out last year about the first partner, and

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Speaker 3: yet people still voted the way they did.

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Speaker 1: Why why are they allowing this to happen? This is

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Speaker 1: where I assume somebody is getting a cut. There's no

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Speaker 1: reason to let this happen. We're talking about money that

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Speaker 1: is supposed to be going either to other people who

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Speaker 1: are old and sick, or money that's supposed to go

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Speaker 1: to take care of children in the daycare center examples.

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Speaker 1: Why would they want to allow all that money to

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Speaker 1: get stolen? What's the upside unless they're getting a cut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, John, I share that I would love to

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Speaker 3: be able to prove.

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Speaker 11: That, and trust me, we are looking through the books

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Speaker 11: and we are trying to find those that line.

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Speaker 3: That we can prove that, because we've seen it with

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Speaker 3: many NGOs that get money from the state, but then

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Speaker 3: they become large political contributors to campaigns for the same

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Speaker 3: people that are voting to continue to give them money.

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Speaker 3: And then we have oversight hearings here in the Capitol

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Speaker 3: in Sacramento and we ask these people where is the

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Speaker 3: money going, what are you doing with it? And they

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Speaker 3: don't answer. Sometimes they don't even show up, and so

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Speaker 3: there's no accountability, there's no oversight. So yes, I truly

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Speaker 3: do think that there's a way to prove that this

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Speaker 3: has happened. The DOJ can subpoena far more financial records

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Speaker 3: than I can. But yes, I think that we're dealing

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Speaker 3: with this with not many nonprofits that are about actors.

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Speaker 3: I think we're dealing with this in state programs. I

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Speaker 3: think when you look into the homeless funding, you're going

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Speaker 3: to see it. I think you're going to see it

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Speaker 3: in the medical system, Medicaid, You're going to see it

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Speaker 3: in your food benefit system. That there's people that have

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Speaker 3: found a way to gain the system and you don't

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Speaker 3: have any oversight or controls here at the Capitol, and

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Speaker 3: then there's no motivation to do it. But once again,

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Speaker 3: when we're motivated to do something, we can make quick

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Speaker 3: work of it, like making March thirty first farm Marker Day.

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Speaker 3: This all happened in less than twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: I noticed that. I noticed that. But when doctor Oz

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Speaker 1: brought this issue up, he was called a racist. When

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Speaker 1: Nick Shirley brings this issue up, he's called a pedophile

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Speaker 1: from Newsom. From Newsome. But congratulations, you got to win

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Speaker 1: in there somehow. Farm Worker Day is what we're going

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Speaker 1: to call March thirty first, no longer Caesar Chavez Day,

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Speaker 1: farm worker Day, Alexandra messdo with the legislation. Congratulations on that,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, John, It's an honor.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty.

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Speaker 1: John Cobelt's show. This is not good. You know, we

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Speaker 1: have those irritating waymos driving around and I passed up

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Speaker 1: another Waimo today because what pisses me off about him

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Speaker 1: is they drive like little old ladies. They go about

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Speaker 1: three miles under the speed limit, and so I'm always

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Speaker 1: swerving into the oncoming lane to pass them up. They

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Speaker 1: drive me nuts. Now, and this is a real thing.

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Speaker 1: How about a driverless big rig a driverless tractor trailer.

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Speaker 1: Well they're already running in Texas. Aurora Innovation is the company,

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Speaker 1: and you'll love this. They're having a problem. They use

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Speaker 1: cameras to detect what's going on, and sometimes the camera

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Speaker 1: and the computer can't tell what's in front of them,

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Speaker 1: so they break to a sudden halt.

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Speaker 2: Oh that stage.

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Speaker 1: So if you're behind a tractor trailer and it's going

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Speaker 1: seventy miles an hour, it hits the brake and goes

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Speaker 1: to zero. Of course you can't see anything. You'll just

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Speaker 1: you're gonna end up. Well, you're gonna end up be

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Speaker 1: headed because your car will go right underneath the metal

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Speaker 1: bars on the back of the truck. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Rid this for three weeks and then the company put

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Speaker 1: started putting a person back into the cab. They say

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Speaker 1: it's not a driver, but an observer.

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Speaker 2: So if it's not a driver, what does an observer do.

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Speaker 2: I guess you have a break.

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Speaker 1: I guess they look to see I don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: how this works. But but the cameras are seeing something

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Speaker 1: that looks like an obstacle. So the computer instructs the

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Speaker 1: truck to stop dead right, And somehow this observer, I guess,

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Speaker 1: is going to pick up on that and and do

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Speaker 1: what I have not have the truck stop dead. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how suddenly it stops, if there's any

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Speaker 1: warning that goes off in the in the cab of

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Speaker 1: the truck. None of this is explained here because the

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Speaker 1: company will not answer questions about why they took the

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Speaker 1: driverless trucks off the road and replace them with trucks

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Speaker 1: and an observer. But it says, according to York Times,

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Speaker 1: there's no question that driverless semi trucks will be a

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Speaker 1: turning point because for the whole industry, because the driver's

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Speaker 1: salary ranges between twenty six and forty percent of the

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Speaker 1: per mile cost of operating a truck, and you if

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Speaker 1: your competitors do it, you have to do it or

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Speaker 1: they're under selling you by twenty six to forty percent.

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Speaker 1: And phantom braking, they call it the problem of autonomous systems,

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Speaker 1: particularly those driven solar by cameras seeing non existent obstacles,

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Speaker 1: so they stop abruptly and they cause an accident. And

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Speaker 1: since trucks are really big and really.

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Speaker 2: Heavy, that's not going to be a good accident.

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Speaker 1: That's a really ugly accident. So they have new systems though.

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Speaker 1: They're install radar and light ar in addition to the cameras.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is this is helpful. One of the executives said,

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Speaker 1: you can't rule out phantom breaking, but it's much less likely.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks for that.

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Speaker 1: I would never drive behind a truck never. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Here's one of the upsides. Aurora began a thousand mile

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Speaker 1: route between Fort Worth and Phoenix for a refrigerator carrier,

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Speaker 1: and the run exceeds what human drivers are capable of doing.

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Speaker 1: So they could do I guess, a thousand miles without

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Speaker 1: a blank and because of work work hour limitations, they'll

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Speaker 1: be able to run these in the rain and the

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Speaker 1: fog and heavy winds.

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Speaker 2: But who stops to get gas?

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Speaker 1: Stop with the impossible questions, Yeah, who stops to get gas?

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me, it would have to be charged. Who

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Speaker 2: does that?

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Speaker 7: Well, Solar maybe.

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta I gotta look that up. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. The the the companies were downplaying the extent

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Speaker 1: that they were using remote operators. They had people watching

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Speaker 1: from a distant office staring at a screen. But they

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Speaker 1: found that the cell phone signals are unreliable. Sometimes there's

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Speaker 1: delays in transmitting, so you know you've you've hit a

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Speaker 1: wall by time the cell phone transmits the data. One

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Speaker 1: expert said, relying on remote control for driving is definitely

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Speaker 1: the wrong way to go. Thanks for that. Sure he

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Speaker 1: has an advanced degree. All right, well we come back

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Speaker 1: doctor Jeffrey Klausner. We haven't talked him in a while

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Speaker 1: because we've talked to him a lot during the COVID

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Speaker 1: situation and now six years later, do you know there's

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Speaker 1: still people suffering long COVID. There was a story in

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Speaker 1: the La Times which I found fascinating. There's still people

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Speaker 1: who are sick and they can't shake it. And Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Klausner will explain why. Debra Mark live in the KFI

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