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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, March twenty fourth, twenty seed twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're all about

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Speaker 1: getting out of our comfort zones. It's me and your man,

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Speaker 1: NAMG Marcus going to joined by Michael Florio and Laqwan Jones.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to start the show. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: It's what Tuesday. So we're talking about the teams, the

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Speaker 1: offenses we think got better, the offenses we think got worse,

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Speaker 1: and what's this going to mean for your fantasy life. Well,

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Speaker 1: also talk a little bit of flag football later on

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Speaker 1: in the show, because there was a flag football event

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Speaker 1: that happened in downtown Los Angeles over the weekend and

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Speaker 1: the results, well, they resulted, and we'll talk about how

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Speaker 1: that goes. But first, a couple of news ish headlines

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Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of actual news happening because

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Speaker 1: it's late March. Man, Like, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Jayleen Wattle was asked about his role.

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Speaker 1: In the Broncos offense and he said, quote, I don't

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Speaker 1: think there are number ones. That was exact my exact

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Speaker 1: reaction when I read that floor. It's like the the

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Speaker 1: big sigh and like the because my fear was he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go to Denver and sort of get lost in

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Speaker 1: the shuffle with so many wide receivers there and Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: I know Davis Webb is gonna be calling the plays,

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Speaker 1: but Sean Payton still having his hands in this.

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Speaker 2: Chat? Is this bad?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I I see it a little bit of each way, right,

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Speaker 3: Like on one hand, yes, Sean Payton loves to not

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Speaker 3: only spread the ball around, and yeah, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: Davis Webb, but I still imagine that Sean Payton.

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Speaker 4: Davis Webb came up under Sean Payton. I imagine they see

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Speaker 4: eye to eye on a lot. Maybe there's a couple

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Speaker 4: of tweaks here or there. But there were only two

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Speaker 4: players on Denver last year who had more than eighty targets.

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Speaker 4: Sutton had one hundred and twenty four. Troy Franklin had

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Speaker 4: one hundred and four. But then like like Marvin Mims

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Speaker 4: is never going to be what we want him to be,

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Speaker 4: but they are going to use him in a specialized role,

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Speaker 4: right and he is going to be involved. It's just

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Speaker 4: not to the level that we want. So that is

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Speaker 4: my fear is that I think Jalen Wattle leads.

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Speaker 5: This team in targets this year if he plays the full.

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Speaker 4: Season, But is it gonna be more like that one

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Speaker 4: twenty five or can we get into like the the

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Speaker 4: one forty one fifty range like we really want for

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Speaker 4: our alpha wide receiver ones. I also think, though, this

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Speaker 4: is a little bit of Jalen Waddle saying the right

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Speaker 4: thing on a new team, right like, I'm just coming in,

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Speaker 4: I'm one of the guys. I'm gonna be used just

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Speaker 4: like everyone else. When in actuality, I think the conversations

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes are a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: So I guess the next question I've got Lakwan is

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Speaker 1: is Jalen Waddle is he wide receiver one material or

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Speaker 1: I don't see you know, I don't He definitely benefited

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Speaker 1: from having Tirikulo.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say that that.

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Speaker 1: Was the only reason for his success, But can he

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Speaker 1: throw in an environment where maybe more is asked of

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Speaker 6: I'm very hesitant, like you guys, because again we're dealing

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Speaker 6: with Sean Payton, and if you saw me all last

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Speaker 6: against the Grain thinking Sean Payton is gonna let R. J. Harvey,

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Speaker 6: Marvin Mims and whoever else cook. But I just feel

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Speaker 6: like I'm a little hesitant and I want to see

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Speaker 6: it unfold because I don't want to put Wattle on

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Speaker 6: my ls list, But I think Wattle he brings like

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Speaker 6: a full time wide receiver presence to them, like that

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Speaker 6: wide receiver too to Courtland Sutton, because like you said,

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Speaker 6: we saw the Musical Chairs with Marvin Mims a Tory

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Speaker 6: look at Tory Franklin and what he was doing, like

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Speaker 6: a lot of the things that he was doing, Wattle's

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Speaker 6: coming in to do because like you see him on

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Speaker 6: these go routes, you see him on these screens, he's

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Speaker 6: crossing these post routes. Like I jumped into the next

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Speaker 6: and most of his targets were on screens, and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: what are we doing? And it's like one hundred and

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Speaker 6: twenty nine routes was on the go route that he

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Speaker 6: you're looking at that and it's like, Okay, I see

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Speaker 6: the frustration of what they're trying to do because Courtland

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Speaker 6: Sutton can't continue on being there all around wide receiver,

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Speaker 5: And choose their they're poisoned.

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Speaker 6: So I think Jalen Wattle, we need to be a

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Speaker 6: little hesitant because of Sean Payton. But to me, if

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Speaker 6: we're going to just clear the boarder, be like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's coming in to be a full time wide receiver,

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Speaker 6: You're probably not going to see him come off the

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Speaker 6: because it just doesn't make sense because, like I head up,

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Speaker 6: our guy Scott Porter, and I'm like, yo, how do

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Speaker 6: you feel about the trade? He's like it's a little expensive,

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Speaker 6: but you kind of to see why they made the move,

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Speaker 6: but like, yeah, it was expensive.

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Speaker 5: So he has to play.

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Speaker 6: Right like a full time wide receiver to the court

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Speaker 6: and Sutton because again, if we start doing this musical

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Speaker 6: and waddles on the bench or Troy Franklin running the routes,

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Speaker 6: it's gonna be so frustrating for fantasy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's gonna happen though, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Come on, let's be positive to be back off of

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Speaker 4: Laqwan's point, because it was a fantastic point, right, Like

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Speaker 4: if you remember in season last year, there was.

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Speaker 5: A battle like who's their wide receiver one?

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Speaker 4: And it was like volume wise, lately it's been Troy Franklin,

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Speaker 4: but usage wise, Sutton is still running the grown man

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Speaker 4: routes right, and like he is by definition, ye're one.

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Speaker 4: But that Troy Franklin usage is what scares me because

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Speaker 4: they were like, he does this very well, and we

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Speaker 4: are just going to spam that play over and over again.

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Speaker 4: It worked with Michael Thomas. For years with Sean Payton, right,

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Speaker 4: we were calling him slant boy, but no one was

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Speaker 4: able to stop it. And that is where my concern

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Speaker 4: But if Sean Payton is like, yeah, but we got

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Speaker 4: Marvin Mims and Troy Franklin, who are specialists who we

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Speaker 4: hamper the volume that Wattle. I like Waddle as a talent,

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Speaker 4: but I kind of think we all agree. I just

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Speaker 4: don't want him in fantasy in this fit.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to put words in your mouth, but

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Speaker 4: that's kind of how I'm reading this conversation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's put him in the better

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Speaker 1: and best ball category now right, where like I don't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about I don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: setting a lineup with Jalen Wattle every week, right, and

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Speaker 1: I know they're gonna be They're gonna be spike weeks,

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want to have.

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Speaker 1: To guess when those spike weeks are gonna come, because,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned maybe they are spamming the Troy de

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Speaker 1: Troy Franklin screenplay. Maybe maybe just one day, Davis Webb

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Speaker 1: wakes up and it's just like Pat Bryant's my favorite

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Speaker 1: person today, you know, like maybe I.

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Speaker 4: Would love that, right, He was playing well done the

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Speaker 4: stretch too.

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Speaker 5: He is just some stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to guess when that's gonna happen,

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Speaker 6: So but the biggest winner here though, is my guy

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Speaker 6: Bo Nicks, And you best believe I'm going to I'm

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Speaker 6: going to be on the bow Knicks campaign this year

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Speaker 6: again pounding the table QB seven last year, because guys,

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Speaker 6: we are looking at Jalen Waddle being able to stretch

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Speaker 6: the field and Courtland Sudden getting his yards in chunk.

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Speaker 6: When we look at bow Knicks coming out of college,

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Speaker 6: do you guys remember what everybody's like. He can't throw

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Speaker 6: past the line of scrimmage, Like we all remember that, right,

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Speaker 6: Like he hit seventy five percent of his passes were

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Speaker 6: less than five yards. Now we look at this boy,

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Speaker 6: he is chucking that ball downfield. He was top five

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Speaker 6: and deep ball targets and completions. Now you drop into

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Speaker 6: Jaylen Waddle come on, man, I think this is gonna

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Speaker 6: be something crazy for bo Knicks this year.

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Speaker 5: It could be.

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Speaker 4: My issue with bo Nicks wasn't last year. Wasn't a

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Speaker 4: bo Knicks issue. It was the It was just the

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Speaker 4: way they didn't let him throw the ball a lot,

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Speaker 4: you know, until until the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: And like, if you look at his.

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Speaker 4: Game logs, some huge performances and some dud performances and

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Speaker 5: That's the thing is. I don't want that. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to live that life.

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Speaker 1: That's a hard way to live.

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Speaker 5: Nah.

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Speaker 6: I get the hesitation too coming back from injury, obviously,

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Speaker 6: but the ankle injury was a problem going into last season.

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Speaker 6: That's why we didn't see him run much. Now they're

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Speaker 6: gonna make him we kind of sit in the pocket.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys remember if Sean Payton work, it was

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Speaker 4: a matter of time until he breaks it. And I

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Speaker 4: was like, this sounds wor so sketchy, right, Like he

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Speaker 4: should not have said that, Like it seems like it's

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Speaker 4: an actual thing.

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Speaker 1: So the whole idea of him being more of a

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Speaker 1: pocket passer honestly makes him less appealing to me.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 6: But every year we get that one pocket passer that

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Speaker 6: fits into that top five, like we we we see

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Speaker 6: it every year, and I feel like his.

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Speaker 2: Name is Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: His name is Matthew Stafford, Like it's not gonna do bicks.

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Speaker 2: Bonicks does not.

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Speaker 1: Give me enough as a passer for him to just

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Speaker 5: For those guys you need to have.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, Stafford this year put up video game

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Speaker 4: numbers QB three. Joe Burrow the year before that put

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Speaker 4: up the best passing numbers QB three. Like if you

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Speaker 4: don't run, you can't be the QB one, I think,

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Speaker 4: and you need uber efficiency to finish.

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Speaker 6: Top I'm not gonna say he's not gonna run, like

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Speaker 6: we know bo is hardheaded, He's gonna roll out the

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Speaker 6: pocket and extend the plays. But I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 6: they want to keep them back there safe. When you

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Speaker 6: have two guys that can create the separation in a

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Speaker 6: Troy Franklin and Jalen Wattle, that gives you more options

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Speaker 6: on the field. Again, I just feel like Wattle, he

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Speaker 6: just like you guys as well, though.

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Speaker 1: So rookie year, he had four undred and thirty rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: Last year three hundred and fifty six rushing yards. He's

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Speaker 2: So let's just say let's say he runs less.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he drops down to what's it called two hundred.

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Speaker 1: I'll give him to fifty two hundred and fifty yards, right,

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Speaker 5: Which is possible.

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Speaker 6: Waddles on the field full time, possible, possible, possible.

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Speaker 5: I see the vision.

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Speaker 2: Are you drafting bonus is your only quarterback?

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Speaker 5: And you know I love that? Let me sit on that.

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Speaker 1: So that's I mean, that's the question you have to

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Speaker 1: ask yourself if that's what you believe, If you believe

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Speaker 1: I waiting? Like? These are all the the calculations you

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Speaker 5: If it's beyond the eighth rounds.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of the floor to to get in that

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Speaker 6: Usually I think the touchdowns increase, though I think the

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Speaker 6: Watto is one of the best separated route runners in

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Speaker 6: this league. I mean jumping back into the next gen.

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Speaker 6: He nearly had four yards of separational crossing routes. That's

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Speaker 6: his bread and butter. That's all we saw Tua and

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Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel drawing up for Wattle when Riek was like

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Speaker 6: double covers, Like if Sean Payton Davis Webb have that

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Speaker 6: vision for how he was cooking to Miami, this is

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Speaker 6: going to be something special for bot Nicks and Wattle

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Speaker 6: to be benefactors of this four yards of separation. Nearly

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Speaker 6: four yards of separational so that I mean when you

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Speaker 1: Right, no, no, something No, let's listen though, because when

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Speaker 1: you said that first I was like, wait four really,

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Speaker 2: On zones because like that's not that's not a man

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Speaker 1: If you're you're not beating anybody by four yards and

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Speaker 1: like that feels like a hey man, I'm walking it

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Speaker 5: Of times in man coverage.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm saying you can do that a few times

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Speaker 1: You're not doing that though, to have that be your average, right,

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Speaker 1: If you're talking about that being an average, that is

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Speaker 1: not I understand mccawan.

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Speaker 2: I understand the number. I'm trying to tell you.

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Speaker 5: I'm about to put it in man coverage. We're about that.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to explain to you how averages work, like

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Speaker 1: four yards of separation on average.

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Speaker 7: Do you understand like he's open?

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Speaker 2: If he's that If he is.

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Speaker 1: That open, why aren't we talking about him like Pooka

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like that feels like it

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Speaker 2: feels like there's some.

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Speaker 1: Hidden It feels like there's a hidden story behind that,

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Speaker 1: beyond just quarterbacks. It can't be just that to us,

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Speaker 1: because even to a diminished to it can hit a

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Speaker 1: guy who's on average four yard four yards lakwan, a

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Speaker 1: me that the distance between on average Jalen Watlein A

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Speaker 1: A fender on average is further than a basketball goal

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Speaker 5: Like something play. That's why he was benched.

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Speaker 4: Can't can we play the game. I'm gonna throw up quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: You tell me when you would take bo Nicks over

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Speaker 4: these guys, Okay, Alan and Lamar. If you say you're

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Speaker 4: taking bo Nicks over them, I think you're crazy.

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Speaker 5: I'll delete. No, I would never do that. No, I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying so, I'm not even gonna ask you guys.

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Speaker 5: Those two Drake May.

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Speaker 1: May.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I met Joe Burrow, Burrow, Jaden Daniels, Jaden bo Right,

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Speaker 5: Oh what about Jalen Hurts without aj we're just assuming

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Speaker 5: a staying.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: I flirt with it, but I'll probably go her.

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Speaker 2: I'll probably take her.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't know. Dart wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: I'll take a bow, I take Art.

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Speaker 4: What about guys like Herbert, Caleb Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: I'll take Caleb.

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Speaker 5: I think like I would put Dart bow Herbert.

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Speaker 2: It's not even that.

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Speaker 1: It's not even I mean, yeah, the UFC thing helps,

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Speaker 1: but that's not I will take Caleb because Caleb will

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Speaker 1: give you similar rushing numbers, and I think his his

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Speaker 1: passing floor is higher than what about Brock Purty. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I probably take I probably take Bow.

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Speaker 5: But he wasn't gonna say Brock. Oh I was saving.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna throw up back. But then I was like,

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Speaker 5: you know what, Brock is more fun.

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Speaker 1: Because on the Brock Party is a top five.

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Speaker 5: I will listen, Bow will go and then I can

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Speaker 5: wait on Brock.

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Speaker 2: Put a like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that would be my show. You'd rather have

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Speaker 1: brock Perty than bow Nicks for the price. Yeah, You'd

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Speaker 5: Stop what I said?

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Speaker 1: All right? Speaking of free agents, there are still a

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Speaker 1: back talk about the top one on one free agents

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Speaker 1: remaining in twenty twenty six. That's next on the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 2: So the bulk of.

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Speaker 1: Free agency has come and gone, but there are still

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Speaker 1: some names sitting out there. And Greg Rosenthal, who every

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Speaker 1: year puts together his top one hundred and one free agents,

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Speaker 1: has updated it with the guys who are left. So

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Speaker 1: there are eight three, six, eight offensive skill position players

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Speaker 1: still on the list. The numbers I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: are where they were originally ranked, but number forty two,

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Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings number fifty one, Kirk Cousins fifty five, Stefan

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Speaker 1: Diggs fifty six, Aaron Rodgers sixty one, Deebo Samuel eighty three,

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Speaker 1: Darren Waller eighty seven, Davin Djoku ninety six, Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: I'm obviously the name that maybe has the most intrigue

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Speaker 1: around it is Juwan Jennings. But you know, putting that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I feel like Aaron Rodgers is just pulling

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Speaker 4: in Aaron Rodgers again, like he's going to be with

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Speaker 4: fit centric. Same thing with the tight ends, Like I

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Speaker 4: think Waller and Djoku could be Fantasy relevant, but it

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Speaker 4: all depends on where they land. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 4: I think Stefan Diggs I think Diggs could still play.

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Speaker 4: I think we saw that last season. I think the

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Speaker 4: reason Diggs is on this list is for all the

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Speaker 4: stuff like that. And I know he's at the end

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Speaker 4: I've played more football than I have left. He's even

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Speaker 4: closer to that cliff right now that falloff. But I

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Speaker 4: still think he could play at least kind of like

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Speaker 4: but he will have his spike weeks and then As

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Speaker 4: for Juwan Jennings, I am truly shocked that that guy

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Speaker 4: is still unsigned. I thought like the Saints would have

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Speaker 4: Keen Colin by now or something like.

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Speaker 5: That Titan somebody I would.

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Speaker 2: I would guess his demands are just too much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was part of what broke down with

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if he's holding to those demands.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I'm kind of with you.

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Speaker 1: I would have thought that by now somebody would.

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Speaker 4: Have Texas forty nine ers wide receivers thinking they're worth

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Speaker 4: more than the market does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, I have so much to say, but I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna let it pass.

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Speaker 4: Say it.

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Speaker 2: Just just put it, because everybody knows what you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: Just just put it out there.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Nope, everybody knows what I'm thinking. I ain't got to

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Speaker 5: say it.

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Speaker 1: Two years from now, Ricky Piersoll holding out, you'd be

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Speaker 1: really sad when common with the RAMS.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're good.

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Speaker 5: We don't need any uh have.

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Speaker 1: Been saving You've been saving your pennies for to pay pookah.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, there's no rush on that.

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Speaker 6: There's no you know, we need to do it and

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Speaker 5: We're good.

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Speaker 1: The longer you wait, the more that number goes. Ask

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones how that works? Can down the road works?

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Speaker 4: What is the RAMS planet? QB two It cannot be

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Speaker 4: stinsing Benning right.

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Speaker 1: Relax my your business translation We don't know March translation out, Well,

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Speaker 1: what's funny to me? And like you Lakwana like maybe

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Speaker 1: the chief of this, but other RAMS fans that I

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Speaker 1: talked to, like you, I know, shocking. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: what happens. You have a side gig that happens to

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Speaker 1: be the RAMS flagship radio station. The The analysis for

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford basically comes down to our dude is built different,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of funny to me because everybody's built

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Speaker 1: I'm like that dude is thirty eight and has taken

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Speaker 1: he's very good. Obviously, he's the MVP. He earned it,

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Speaker 1: and like my answer to that, be ready.

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Speaker 2: He's built different, different, Yes, hope is not a plan.

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Speaker 5: Only one QB is actually built different and.

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Speaker 1: Even played flag football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you look good too. I ain't gonna lie. He

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Speaker 2: Like too good? Like yo, yeah good, you want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a little bit different though, when you.

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Speaker 5: Know Tom Brady Rams QB too, why not.

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Speaker 1: It's also a little bit different when you're not actually

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Speaker 4: Should get a quarterback room of Mendoza and Brady for

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Speaker 1: Actually, I want a quarterback room of Jamis and Mendoza.

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Speaker 4: That's what I really Oh, that would be way more fun.

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Speaker 4: And I changed my answer.

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Speaker 1: Yep, there you are the tight end whisper on this show.

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Speaker 1: Uh Kwan?

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Speaker 2: Why is David Joku still a free agent?

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Speaker 6: He might be on that same Juwan Jennings boat. I mean,

442
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Speaker 6: you just watched the rookie come in and kind of

443
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Speaker 6: outshine you availability as your best ability. Again, He's a

444
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Speaker 6: Taylor Ham guy, so I do feel like that plays

445
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Speaker 6: a part in some of it. I mean, at the

446
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 6: end of the day, I feel like, you know, David

447
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 6: the joke, who where are we at right now? You know,

448
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 6: Like I feel like there's not many landing spots for him,

449
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 6: So probably gonna have to bring that price tag down

450
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 6: because honestly, like I know, teams are iron at Darren Waller,

451
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 6: They're like, hey, you performed at a high level at times.

452
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Speaker 6: I feel like you can be a nice cheap plug

453
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Speaker 6: in play. But I think Dave Nijoku might be on

454
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Speaker 6: that same Juwan Jennings you know, demanding too much, right,

455
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 6: now and again, there's some tight ends in this draft

456
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 6: class that you know could probably fill his void at

457
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Speaker 6: a younger and cheaper price.

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Speaker 1: If I am interested in Darren Waller, I'm paying him

459
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Speaker 1: a day rate, like you get paid like you when

460
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: you clock in for the day, you get paid for

461
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Speaker 1: that day.

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Speaker 6: The Dolphins said they were walking him back, you know,

463
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Speaker 6: he was there for the Mike Mdaion firing.

464
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Speaker 1: And the Dolphins are basically eating Ramen for the next

465
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Speaker 1: couple of years so that they can have money to

466
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Speaker 1: spend down the road. Right Like they're driving by and

467
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Speaker 1: they see the line in and out, They're like, might

468
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: like a burger too, But no, I got Ramen at home,

469
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: Like like we got Hamburger at home, and it's just Houseburger.

470
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Speaker 1: It's just Hollis Burger, you know, with some he's inslved

471
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Speaker 1: on it. Like that's what the Dolphins are doing right now.

472
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Speaker 1: So yeah, of course I work walking in Darren wall

473
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Speaker 1: if like he was good for them in short bursts.

474
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Speaker 1: He played nine games, he had twenty four catches, Like,

475
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm paying him a day rate. If I'm paying him.

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Speaker 4: That, I might argue, like I understand why he's higher

477
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Speaker 4: on this list. Though, because he is a he's a specialist, right,

478
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Speaker 4: Like you don't want Darren Waller running routes all the

479
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: time between the twenty, but you sure want him on

480
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Speaker 4: your team when you're in the red zone like David

481
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Speaker 4: and Joku. Isn't that And he's coming off of two

482
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Speaker 4: like I like him as a player, but he's coming

483
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Speaker 4: off of two down years.

484
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Speaker 5: He's hitting thirty.

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Speaker 4: I think he probably needs to prove it, and I

486
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Speaker 4: he probably, like Lakwana saying, thinks he's beyond a prove

487
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Speaker 4: it type of deal.

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Speaker 2: That part I can I can certainly get.

489
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Speaker 1: I think you know, he's still younger than Waller, he

490
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Speaker 1: still at least can play between the twenties.

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Speaker 6: Look at the contract the Commanders gave Chicka Konku, Like

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Speaker 6: I thought that, you know, was one of the like

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Speaker 6: oh okay, yeah, Like let's move forward with chick a

494
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Speaker 6: Konko for the next three years. But I don't think

495
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Speaker 6: David Najok who hits that for the Commanders or anything.

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Speaker 1: If he's still out there, he's not going to get

497
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Speaker 1: that kind.

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Speaker 6: Of like send him to Carolina prove it there, you

499
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Speaker 6: know what I mean, Because they've been through this whole

500
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Speaker 6: tight end cycle.

501
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Speaker 2: That hurt your boy.

502
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Speaker 1: Jatavian standards listen, availability for ability, listen, step up?

503
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Speaker 5: All right, get on here, honors.

504
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Speaker 1: Uh speaking of the forty nine ers, I've just seen this.

505
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Speaker 1: This come across here as you're as you're speaking, Brian

506
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Speaker 1: Robinson Junior expected to sign with the Atlanta Falcons.

507
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Speaker 5: God, he's the new Tyler Algier.

508
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: He is the new Tyler al Jear.

509
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Speaker 4: We gotta hope that this coach doesn't use him as that,

510
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 4: but that has been his role since he's come in

511
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 4: the league as just a goal on runner, a power

512
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Speaker 4: back runner.

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Speaker 1: Which is wild because I really thought he was going

514
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Speaker 1: to get a I thought he's gonna get more touches

515
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: this year in San Francisco. To be honest with you,

516
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: I just didn't think they were gonna anything. They wanted

517
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: to pile on touches on Christian McCaffrey. So I thought

518
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: that meant Robinson would get more opportunity.

519
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Speaker 5: But that means Kyle is taking another running back, isn't it?

520
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: Probably?

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Speaker 1: I mean there's I've seen I've seen mock draft where

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Speaker 1: they take on in the second round, So that's very possible.

523
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Speaker 6: Wow, that's high, is it for Kyle. Yeah, I mean

524
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Speaker 6: the rest of his guys are what like four fifth rounders,

525
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Speaker 6: sixth rounders.

526
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Speaker 4: Why don't they just give Isaac Corndo a chance because

527
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: he wasn't better than Jordan Mason.

528
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Speaker 5: So there's that. It was a rookie though. All right,

529
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Speaker 5: he can't pass block either. But I digress. Fast a

530
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Speaker 5: home run hit or baby fast?

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Speaker 2: All right, fast into the back of the line.

532
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Speaker 1: Speaking of offenses making change, just like a break, we'll

533
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Speaker 1: come back talking about some offenses that got better, something

534
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: that got worse, and how that might help help or

535
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Speaker 1: hurt your fantasy life. That's next on the NFL Fantasy

536
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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. All right, so I've see we had a

537
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Speaker 1: little bit of mild breaking news last segment with you,

538
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Speaker 1: Brian Robinson news.

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Speaker 2: So the Falcons improving, I guess improving overall, not improving.

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Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson's standing. I did love I'm.

541
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Speaker 5: Still gonna have one hundred catches.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, probably just based on who their quarterbacks

543
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: are going to be. But now there's a new thorn

544
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Speaker 1: in the side, a new fly in the ointment, if

545
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: you will.

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Speaker 2: So I was taking Bijon number one.

547
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Speaker 1: But at this moment, if Robinson really is going to Atlanta,

548
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Speaker 1: then I'm probably pivoting to Jamiir Gibbs at one oh one.

549
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Speaker 5: I mean again, I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy either word, No, for sure, But

551
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Speaker 1: I think Robinson is more of a thorn in the

552
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Speaker 1: side than Isaiah Pacheco is going to be in.

553
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Speaker 6: Detroit, you think more than I don't like to do

554
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 6: the over under, but whatever, but over under five touchdowns

555
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Speaker 6: for Robinson.

556
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Speaker 1: Brian, which somebody just pointed out. Now the Falcons have

557
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Speaker 1: to be Robins.

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Speaker 5: Robinson on his jersey's.

559
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Speaker 1: Robin's got it in your team because you got you

560
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Speaker 1: have to b Robinson's in the backfield now.

561
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Speaker 5: But he gets less than five touchdowns. I'm not worried

562
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 5: about it.

563
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 6: But if we're thinking more than okay, then that's an issue.

564
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Speaker 4: I think it's possible, I mean it all Obviously, it

565
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 4: depends on how they're going to utilize them.

566
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Speaker 5: But Tyler Lgier had eight touchdowns last year. Like that's

567
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 5: the issue. I wish all.

568
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Speaker 2: It's certainly possible.

569
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Speaker 1: Uh you know, new coaching staff, So yeah, I don't know.

570
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Speaker 5: I mean, on the sticks, we'll see it will happen.

571
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk to some offenses that got better offenses,

572
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Speaker 1: they got worse. If you're looking around at what has

573
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Speaker 1: happened so far in free agency, Lakwan, who which offense

574
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Speaker 1: do you think improved itself the most?

575
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Speaker 6: The Silicon Valley Shockers. You know, you guys adding Mike

576
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 6: Evans Silicon Valley, that's more like Beverly Hills. No Silicon

577
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 6: Valley Shockers, Mann Valley is what I think.

578
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Speaker 1: Those are very different things.

579
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 5: But you guys added Mike Evans.

580
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Speaker 6: But I told you guys, I was a big fan

581
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 6: of the Christian Kirk siding because honestly, like man, I mean,

582
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 6: going from Christian Kirk, I mean going from Juwan Jennings

583
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 6: to Christian Kirk, you kind of see the vision of

584
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 6: what they want to do with him, and I think

585
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 6: him playing in the slot, playing out wide. I've been

586
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 6: pounding the table for Christian Kirk since his days in Arizona,

587
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 6: like the dude can play. And then we saw what

588
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 6: he did in that wildcard game, exploding. I think the

589
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 6: Texans didn't really have a plan for him. He got injured.

590
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 6: It's a matter of him staying healthy as well. But

591
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 6: again that's the same thing that we could say about

592
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Speaker 6: Mike Evans. But if both of them guys stay healthy,

593
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Speaker 6: I think I.

594
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't put those two on the same Like Mike Evans

595
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: obviously got hurt last year, but Mike Evans has generally

596
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: been a pretty good picture of health. Christian Kirk is good. Like,

597
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: if you're drifting Christian Kirk and fantasy, just know there's

598
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: gonna be five games. Yeah, he's just understand there's three

599
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: to five games that he's just not going to be

600
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: there for you.

601
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Speaker 4: And there's three to five games where he will be

602
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: out there and you will think he's not playing, but

603
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: then we're three to five games where he will win

604
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: you a week in best ball.

605
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Speaker 1: There were literally moments last year where I had to like,

606
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: is he still Like I would see him pop up

607
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: like on the on the Texans depth chart or something

608
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah he is still there. Like I

609
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: really literally forgot he was there sometimes. But in terms

610
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: of what the Niners need, yeah, it's great fit. As

611
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: long as he's healthy, then he can definitely fit in

612
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: with what they want for sure.

613
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's a great fit there. Shanahan will

614
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: have a lot of fun with him.

615
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I does. Does losing Brian Robinson change your feeling

616
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: about whether or out there that they help themselves the most.

617
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 6: Helk you uh not really, you still got the freak

618
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 6: athlete and see him seeing You're just gonna have more

619
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 6: worry now that they don't have at the moment right

620
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 6: now that you know they have that RB too.

621
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 5: But we know he's gonna draft one, so it doesn't matter.

622
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it is trending that way for sure, and.

623
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Speaker 4: That player will be like Jordan James was hyped up

624
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: last offseason, Isaac Grendo was hyped up the year before that,

625
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: Jordan Mason was a.

626
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: Very popular pick.

627
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: It goes back to the Carlos high days, like whoever's

628
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: the RB two in Sante is hyped up?

629
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: Carlos Hide, Wow, Carlos Hide. He had Matt Ketches that

630
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 5: year too for no reason.

631
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: Man, I hadn't heard that name in a long time.

632
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde.

633
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

634
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: Alright, uh, Floyd, who got better? Who who improved the most?

635
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I guess I should say for you this.

636
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: They made one move I guess too if you want

637
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: to include they stole one of the Bill's interior O Lineman's,

638
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: but the Minnesota Vikings. The one move they made I

639
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: think was the biggest of the off season for fantasy

640
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: and for uh for real life court. Yeah, Like you

641
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: get Kyler Murray there, and he, in my opinion, instantly

642
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: is better than J. J. McCarthy, Carson Wentz and Max Brosmer,

643
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: which was the trio of quarterbacks we saw last season

644
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: for the Vikings.

645
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: I think, look, it's.

646
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: Not a hot take to say, like, we know koc

647
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: can elevate an offense for fantasy, we know what Justin

648
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: Jefferson could be, what Jordan Addison could be.

649
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: TJ.

650
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: Hockinson I think still has some I think gone are

651
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: the days where we're getting excited for him as a

652
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: Titan one. But I do think he is better than

653
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: what we saw last season. And then there's Aaron Jones

654
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 4: and Jordan Mason who we believe have talent, right, Like,

655
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: the Vikings had far too much talent last year to

656
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: be as bad as they were, which was why I

657
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 4: struggled to be like get rid of Justin. You know, like,

658
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: I just know how talented they are, and I think

659
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: if you put that a bit of play calling paired

660
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: with the talent they have at pass catcher and the

661
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 4: skill positions, now with a competent quarterback who has finished

662
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: as a QB one every full season he has played.

663
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: I think one Kyler Murray is a QB one that

664
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 4: you might not have to draft as such. And then

665
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: I just think a rising tide raises all ships or

666
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: whatever that's saying is and all the vikings are going

667
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: to be better because they're going to have better quarterback

668
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: play this year.

669
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean the quarter the bar is on the floor

670
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: for quarterback.

671
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: Pick it up.

672
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean the bar is absolutely on the floor for

673
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: quarterback play.

674
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 6: So yeah, see Kyler is like the top twelve, you know,

675
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 6: quarterback this year. Because I'm worried about the running aspect

676
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 6: of it, like is he going to be running?

677
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: Are we gonna see that again?

678
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: Like so you will understand this, you'll understand this reference Lakon,

679
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: Like Kyler's going to be a top twelve quarterback on aggregate,

680
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be It's like the week to week

681
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: is not going to be exciting, Like he'll have a

682
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: couple of weeks so we'll be fine, Like you'll get

683
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: a couple of twenty point weeks.

684
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is cool.

685
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of like sixteen seventeen's the

686
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: occasional twenty five and like at the end of the year,

687
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, that's your dude in

688
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: points per game every year but last. But I'm off.

689
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm off the Kyler train. I'm just I'm staying this

690
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: for the record.

691
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be on it because I think he's going.

692
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 4: If you're drafting him in the top ten, I'm out.

693
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: But I don't think you're gonna have to, Like, I

694
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: think not gonna he goes as a QB two and

695
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: I'll keep taking him as a qu I will just

696
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: point out in twenty twenty four he ran for the

697
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: second most yards and touchdowns of his career, so like

698
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: it's not like that far removed from being a weapon

699
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: as a runner.

700
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, but if you believe, if you believe in Justin

701
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 6: Jefferson now being back in the first round, now being

702
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 6: in the first five to seven picks, then you have

703
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 6: to believe somewhat in Kyler distributed.

704
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: Not necessarily because we believed in We believed in Justin

705
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: Jefferson two years ago, but we didn't necessarily believe in

706
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I mean, Donald turned out to be very good,

707
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: but that wasn't the narrative. That wasn't the narrative coming

708
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: into the season, We're like, like, he just has to

709
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: be good enough, Like we just need Donald to not

710
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: be terrible.

711
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 6: Even though she is for Kirk Cousins, you know, when

712
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 6: he was with the Vikings, like he was serviceable some weeks,

713
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: like he was good as a QB two that you

714
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 6: can plug in and that might be Kyler.

715
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

716
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me, when it comes to a

717
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: QB one this year, probably he might. He might, and like,

718
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'll put him on my L list, like

719
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to take the L on that one, because

720
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: when I'm drafting, I will have gotten a quarterback before

721
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: he comes up in the queue. And if I'm drafting

722
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: a second one, I'm probably gonna wait till after he's

723
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: gone to get it to like you know, like you know,

724
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: it's it's just one of those things.

725
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

726
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: I think I just have Kyler fatigue, like we've been

727
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: making happened.

728
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: For a while because we've wanted him to be better

729
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: than he has been and people are just like time.

730
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: But to me, that that's on us, not on him.

731
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: You know, some of it's on him.

732
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: Some of the real life expectations either but like we

733
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: were making him a top five fantasy quarterback in twenty

734
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: twenty four and he finished like eighth, and we were like,

735
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 4: this guy stinks.

736
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 5: But like the week, the week was a headache. Though, yeah,

737
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 5: the week week was a headache. I think I think

738
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: that's what comes with him.

739
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 6: But again, like you don't think that is like his

740
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 6: thing because he's a mobile quarterback best.

741
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: I would argue this is the most talent and best

742
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: play caller he's probably ever had.

743
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 5: Oh facts, so like there might be untapped potential there.

744
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I start look selling me, this might also be my

745
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: galaxy brain because this year like for this, for me,

746
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: this is a proven year for koc right, this is

747
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: that's proven there because if he's this quarterback whisper. But

748
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: they're already punting on JJ mccarth.

749
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: They brought in Carson Wentz.

750
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 8: There's a lot about that story was that koc never

751
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 8: wanted JJ and was kind of forced him does that

752
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 8: because I was feeling the same way until we kind

753
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 8: of got that info and then I was like, oh, okay,

754
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 8: I I'm on team koc here.

755
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Hey man, Like I didn't want you know this, you

756
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: know this leftover rice that you put in the fridge,

757
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: but like I can turn it into something decent, Like

758
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: I can make some I can make some fried rice.

759
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: You give me some eggs and frozen vegetables. I can

760
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: make you some fried rice. It's gonna be halfway decent.

761
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: Like he looked at that. He looked at the rice

762
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: in the fridge, and it's just like I don't know.

763
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set it up supermarkets, maybe put some soy

764
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: sauce on it, Like I don't know what Donna do,

765
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: Like they just move on, like yeah, I don't know.

766
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: So it's a proven year for Koc. For me, I

767
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: take no pleasure in saying this, but the Patriots got

768
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: better and it wasn't like one big move. It was

769
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: an accumulation of moves. Like I don't I don't look

770
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: at the Romeo Dobbs signing it, being like, yeah, they

771
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: got their wide receiver one, like they're they're basically gonna

772
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: be Packers East, right, They're gonna have a several guys

773
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: who are gonna be really kind of nice that you know,

774
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: week weeks. It'll be hard to gotta figure out. But

775
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: I think adding Elijah via Tucker when he's healthy allows

776
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: them to make some adjustments along that offensive line. I

777
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: mean that was the big story of the Super Bowl, right,

778
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: how the Seahawks just dominated them in the trenches. So

779
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: getting a healthy a VT sort of eliminate some of that.

780
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: They go and they they signed Reggie Gilliam again, not sexy.

781
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: But if I'm excited about alec Ingold coming to the

782
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: Chargers for what it means for Omari and Hampton, I'm

783
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: kind of interested to see what a fullback going to

784
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: New England means for Trevion Henderson. Right.

785
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: You know, they add Julian.

786
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: Hill again, not a guy that you're drafting in fantasy,

787
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: but is his job going to be to add something

788
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: to the run game a little bit? You know? So

789
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: it's I say, I'm I take no pleasure in saying

790
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: it's just mostly because like I don't hate this group

791
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: of Patriots, but like I just needed them to wander

792
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: in the wilderness a little bit longer than they had.

793
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: You know, they turned it around too quickly. Yeah, man,

794
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 5: twenty years.

795
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: Of them just dominating the league, and then they.

796
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: Had like three years of being like not even like

797
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: bad bad, just like sort of un good.

798
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: And now that the.

799
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: Playoffs, oh, they got annihilated in that one game, though,

800
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 4: I'll tell.

801
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 5: You by who was like forty nine to seventeen or.

802
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: Something like that, Like, yeah, so, I but I do

803
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: think now I don't know what this means for them

804
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: in terms of wins and losses, because the schedule obviously

805
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: is going to be much more difficult this year than

806
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: it was last year. But you know, if you were

807
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: in on Drake May, you're much more in. If you

808
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: were in on Travon looking at you, Florio, you are

809
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: much more in this year because I think they've got

810
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: pieces to sort of shore up the deficiencies that they

811
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: had around there.

812
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: I'm going to but at a much cheaper cost.

813
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 1: Well, I think he's gonna be way cheaper this year

814
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: for sure.

815
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: All Right, which guys, which team's got worse? Lak, You

816
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: and I have?

817
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: Dolphins?

818
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Can Dolphins?

819
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 6: I mean honestly, Dolphins. They just depleted the entire offense.

820
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 6: I don't know what Milik Willis is going to go

821
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 6: out there and work with.

822
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: That makes sense to me.

823
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: Why is it that you buy a lottery you well,

824
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: first off, you pay for two or to go away

825
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: and you get the lottery ticket. That is Malik Willis

826
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: and then you give him nothing.

827
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: To who's not who's not available apparently for you know, trade.

828
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 6: But I just think that there's not enough weapons there

829
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 6: for them to even compete in that division alone. I've like,

830
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 6: if they win four games, I'll honestly be surprised, because

831
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 6: it's just like they don't have anybody right now, as

832
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 6: of today, as of March, that they have anybody that's

833
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 6: threatening on that offense other than devon a Chan.

834
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I like my.

835
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 6: Dude to too, but at the end of the day,

836
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 6: to tow out, well, is not your wide receiver one and.

837
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: Your wide receiver one.

838
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 6: You just can't have more receptions in the career than

839
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 6: anybody else in that wide receiver corp. Then it's like, Okay,

840
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 6: you have the eleventh pick, you have the thirtieth pick.

841
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 6: Maybe they do draft one of these rookie wide receivers

842
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 6: who comes in with significant targets, but again, this is

843
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 6: still a rookie coming in, Like this isn't like, you know,

844
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 6: somebody coming in to take over this offense and change

845
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 6: the dynamic of what we think about it. So I

846
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 6: just think they just got completely worse, and there's certain

847
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 6: areas and holes that they're probably going to be limping

848
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 6: into week one with and we're going to be looking

849
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 6: at the Dolphins in the last place.

850
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just that was the thing to me. It's like,

851
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: I know, we all love Malik will at least we

852
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: we love Malik Willis when we still believe Jalen Water

853
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: was going to be there.

854
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: We love Malik Willis because Florio loves Malik Willis.

855
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: A people out there right he was. He was Greg

856
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: Rosenthal's number one free agent of twenty.

857
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 6: I feel like Florio influenced the heck out of that.

858
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

859
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: I don't know if Greg listens to us, but I

860
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 4: will say I was on Malik Willis before that came out.

861
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying, Like he was out.

862
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: There just one thing.

863
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: There's one thing I know about Greg Rosenthal is that

864
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: he will not do he has. He is a strong

865
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: opinion and will not be swayed, especially by the likes

866
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: of us. So yeah, we all loved it when we

867
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: thought the Dolphins had a coherent plan, and then it

868
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: appears that the Dolphins don't have a coherent plan. So yeah,

869
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm with you. They're the ones that got the most

870
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: the most time.

871
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 4: Good more right, Like.

872
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're what they do in the draft,

873
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: you know that that's gonna be the key, is what

874
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: happens in the draft.

875
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 5: Draft two wide receivers in the first round.

876
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't be the most ridiculous thing.

877
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 5: That would change the whole dynamic of how I feel.

878
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 5: That is having.

879
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: Buyer's remorse right now, because like he could have been

880
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: in Arizona.

881
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure he probably gets one year to prove himself,

882
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 7: which is terrible, which is awful, even if they do

883
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 7: draft two first round receivers, right, it's like, wait, you're

884
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 7: gonna give me a year with you know, in this

885
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 7: this new place with nothing.

886
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: Around me, Like, yeah, I would feel a little bit

887
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: betrayed if that were the case, because.

888
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 5: Again I'm not a knockout to two, but too two

889
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 5: is not your one. Your receiver one's not. He's just not.

890
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: It's not it's not shade, it's just facts. So it

891
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: is so it is all right. So it's Lakwant and

892
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: I are of the same mind of Florida. Who is

893
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: who is your team that got degraded the most?

894
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: I was gonna write Dolphins, but I was like, let

895
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 4: me try to find a different team. So I went

896
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: with the Klee Eveland Browns, who look, I know a

897
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: lot of people out there root against Shador and Deshaun

898
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: Watson and Dylan Gabriel left nothing to really be impressed by.

899
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: But I feel bad for him. He just got glossed over.

900
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think even the biggest Browns hater would

901
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 4: be like, it's not a good situation, right, like they're asked,

902
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: They're putting their quarterbacks in a very poor situation. And

903
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: they did go and trade for Titus Howard, who was

904
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: the I would you could argue statistically the best tackle

905
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: in football last year. But they lost their entire interior

906
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: offensive line.

907
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 5: And that was the strength of their O line last year.

908
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: Like their tackle play was atrocious, So adding Titus Howard

909
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 4: as your left tackle is going to go a long way.

910
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: But I feel like you just reshuffled your issue around

911
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 4: because you lost Wyatt Teller, Joe Battonio and Ethan Posik,

912
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 4: who were the three old linemen who played the most

913
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: snaps for you last season and allowed a bind seven sacks.

914
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: So maybe you.

915
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: Shirt up out wide on your O line, but inside

916
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: teams are just gonna be able to have a field day,

917
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: I think, uh, and then they added no wide receiver,

918
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 4: they lost David and Joku when haven't added a tight

919
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: end and they didn't add.

920
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 5: To that running back room, And like, look, I like Quinnshaw.

921
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: Judkins, but let's not act like he's not coming off

922
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: of a really severe injury. So yeah, Like to me,

923
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 4: it's it's I know, the Browns are always a team

924
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: that's hard to get excited about, but even the players

925
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 4: that I like on this roster, I'm like, do what

926
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: it feels like Harold Fan and Junior or a bust

927
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: for me right now?

928
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: With Cleveland, I just I need some more information into

929
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: the thought process that said, let's have all of our

930
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: offensive lineman hit free agency at the exact same time, Bro.

931
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 6: They had four, but like that entire o line is shuffled.

932
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 6: Like I look at Junkins like he's going to drop

933
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 6: in drafts. He's definitely gonna drop and draft and you're

934
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 6: going to be hesitant to even bull them off the

935
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 6: board when he looks like an affordable price because again,

936
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 6: you don't know what product they're going to put out

937
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 6: there on the field, and I don't know if I

938
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 6: want to deal with that.

939
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: I know it's I know Andrew Berry is currently the

940
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: general manager, but I had this thought the other day

941
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: that the the Colorado Rockies went out and signed Paul

942
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Deepadesta to be their general manager, because somebody in the

943
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies front office looked at the Cleveland Browns are like,

944
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: I want the guy who helped build.

945
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: That like that right there, that right there?

946
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: Like I know, I know the Podesta has not been

947
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: there for a few years, but still he he did

948
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: have a hand in what we were seeing on the field,

949
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: and the Rockies are like, m M, how do I

950
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: get a piece of that?

951
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: He's that teams stay bad for a reason.

952
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that's what it is. Anyway, don't

953
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: resent did this exercise is because this is going to

954
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: kind of clue us into teams that we are going

955
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: heavy on and teams we're avoiding when it comes to drafts,

956
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: because look, this is a simple prospect, right. We want

957
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: players from the teams that are going to score a

958
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: lot of points this year, because they're gonna give us

959
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: a lot of fantasy points, and we want to avoid

960
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: players and the teams that aren't going to score a

961
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: lot of points because they're not gonna give us a

962
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: lot of fantasy points. So that was the whole point

963
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: of the whole athot exercise.

964
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes fantasy is.

965
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: A simple game.

966
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: Really really it is flag football. Maybe not as simple.

967
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

968
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that after some Team USA guys kind

969
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: of took it to some former NFL guys. That's next

970
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, so we're having it

971
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: up with some non fantasy type stuff. Obviously, there's been

972
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: a lot of talk with the Olympics coming to Los

973
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: Angeles in twenty twenty eight about flag football being in it.

974
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have seen the promos when you watch

975
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: NFL football games about flag football, and sure of the

976
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: league's initiative to sort of promote flag football as a whole.

977
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm sure you guys have seen the

978
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: promo with Jalen Hurts out front of the LA Coliseum

979
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: throwing the football and it lights the torch and YadA, YadA, YadA.

980
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 5: Was he busy?

981
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: I don't know.

982
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 5: I just didn't understand what is he doing here?

983
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

984
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just more photogenic. I mean, Jalen Hurts is

985
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: a good looking man. That's all I'm saying.

986
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a handsome dude. What do you want to

987
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: say about it?

988
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: He's a handsome dude.

989
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: He should add Sam Darnold do it though, Like that

990
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: should be your perk, coul.

991
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, they should have.

992
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: Well, if you actually have Caleb Williams, because he's young,

993
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: he's a USC guy, he recently played there, you can

994
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: really build off of that. But that's not the whole

995
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: point of why I brought this up. So you know,

996
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: obviously the talk has been having NFL players play in

997
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: the Olympics in flag football.

998
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: Now I have.

999
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: Sort of been against it, in part because flag football

1000
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: is kind of a different skill set than the NFL football,

1001
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: but also because I personally just like having people that

1002
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: we don't know, like having those be the stories that

1003
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: we learned through the Olympics. Right. There's always these athletes

1004
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: in whatever sport that you know, you've never heard about,

1005
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: and like they played a lot of time and effort

1006
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: into their craft and this is their moment to shine.

1007
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: And I like having those stories and like, yeah, sure

1008
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: it'd be fun to say, watch Jade and Daniels play

1009
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: in the Olympics, but like, we know Jayden Daniels, we

1010
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: know a whole lot about him, Like there's not as

1011
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: much compelling, you know, storyline there with Jade and Daniels, Like, yeah, man,

1012
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: this dude won a Heisman trophy.

1013
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: Man, Like he's really been downtrodden. Like there's just not

1014
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: much there.

1015
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: So this weekend in Los Angeles, Tom Brady he had

1016
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: a flag football tournament where it was some former NFL

1017
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: players playing against some of the Team USA players. It

1018
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: was originally scheduled to be in Saudi Arabia, they had

1019
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: to move it for reasons and so instead they decided

1020
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: to play at Demo Stadium in Los Angeles, home of

1021
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: LAC and Angel City FC.

1022
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: It did not go well for the NFL players.

1023
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: The final score combined of the three games won all

1024
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: three games by a combined score of one oh six

1025
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: to forty four. Yo.

1026
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, porch yr Yeah.

1027
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: Afterwards, I loved some of the quotes that Tom Brady

1028
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: saying just in terms of strategy, we're probably way behind,

1029
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: and Luke Keickley saying their skill set was very different

1030
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: than anything we've ever seen in the NFL. H So,

1031
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: can we stop this whole like putting NFL players in

1032
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: the Olympics, Can we can? We can we put that

1033
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: to that.

1034
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: Now, I think you could do it at skill positions

1035
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: because you got to train them.

1036
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 5: There's the difference there.

1037
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 4: But when I saw that Von Miller and Luke Keackley

1038
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: were the linebackers, I was like, why they're useful out there?

1039
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 5: Like get cooked?

1040
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they're for physicality and like running into people

1041
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: and stuff, and like like, look, I know it's nowhere

1042
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: similar to that, but growing up when I was in college,

1043
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 4: I played on a flag football team and we are

1044
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: running back was like a really good physical runner in

1045
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: high school, and then he got out there and he

1046
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 4: was like, I can't do this because he's like I'm

1047
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 4: trying to run through people and they're just ripping my

1048
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: flag off and I'm getting two yards and like it's

1049
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 4: a completely different skill set. But I think guys like

1050
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 4: DeVonta Smith, who had a long touchdown, like those guys

1051
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: could quickly adjust. I think it is it's more like

1052
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: the linebackers and stuff like that that you need a

1053
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 4: specialty skill set.

1054
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 6: For because you definitely need those offensive skill guys that

1055
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 6: understand of how to maneuver and get away from these

1056
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 6: defenders in terms of the duck walk, which again me

1057
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 6: playing flag football before I moved over here to LA

1058
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 6: that my last season in twenty twenty two, we won

1059
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 6: the championship. That was my favorite move. It was the

1060
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 6: dip in the duckwalk, And I'm like, Yo, this is

1061
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 6: like one of the things in the NFL that you're

1062
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 6: probably not thinking that this dude is going to change

1063
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 6: levels for you grabbing the flag the eye and coordinate

1064
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 6: the eye in hand coordination. You think like, oh, this

1065
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 6: dude is leveled here, but his hits all of a

1066
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 6: sudden drop he's bolting right past you. Because again, it's

1067
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 6: not a physical sport where you're tackling guys. You have

1068
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 6: to be able to reach their flag, and that becomes

1069
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 6: difficult when you have somebody that's savvy like that and

1070
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 6: be able to move maneuver like that.

1071
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: And I think that, but I guess that's part of

1072
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: it too, though, right, because it is a skill set

1073
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: that really is specific to flag football. Like you're not

1074
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna learn to duck walk if you're devinta smith like you.

1075
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Guys spend a lot of time on.

1076
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: That because like you just duck down in the NFL,

1077
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: like that's not gonna just trying to hit you in

1078
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: the chest.

1079
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: Like it's not gonna change it.

1080
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 5: You break your chain chat, you're to duck walk in

1081
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: the NFL, and you're.

1082
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: Putting yourself in more danger depending on like the situation.

1083
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just you know, I personally just want

1084
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: these athletes to have their moment, and I don't necessarily

1085
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: want so. Like the other part of this too, is

1086
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: on Sunday. The tournament was on Saturday. Everything on Sunday.

1087
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: I was at the Natural History Museum of La County,

1088
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: which is right, it's all an expansion park. They're all

1089
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: right next door to each other, right, So it's there's

1090
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: BEMO Stadium, there's the LA Coliseum, there's the Natural History Museum.

1091
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: They're all kind of right. There was there with the kid.

1092
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: As we left and we drove past BEMO on the

1093
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: way out. They hadn't taken down all the signage and

1094
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: banners yet from the Flag Football tournament. There's one huge

1095
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: banner and it was just Tom Brady. And I know

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00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: he's the face of this thing and he's helping coordinate

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00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: and organize it and everything, and I know he played

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00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: really really well obviously in that tournament. But part of

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00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: it just that just sort of hit me wrong because

1100
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, like this.

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00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be about Tom Brad.

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00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm also just on Tom Brady fatigue too, like

1103
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: he's just everywhere now, Like I just maybe that's what

1104
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: it is. But I just kind of it rubbed me

1105
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: wrong because I really do want these flag football players,

1106
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: who's a lot of whose names we don't know.

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00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 2: I just want them to have Like I don't.

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00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 6: Know the guy that picked off Joe Burrow, Like I

1109
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 6: probably have to google that, Like I wish he was

1110
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 6: probably you know, more humped up of like hey, I

1111
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 6: got to pick six on the NFL quarterback of the

1112
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 6: Cincinnati Bengals, Like that's pretty you know, big and major.

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00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: But like, I also believe that these folks understand that

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00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: they know their sport and they know how to win

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00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: at their sport.

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00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: And I don't think they were.

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00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: Surprised, Like I bet you if you asked them, they

1118
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: probably weren't surprised that they won it.

1119
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, won convincingly.

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00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 5: Even some of the influences.

1121
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 6: I show Speed was out there cooking guys and juking

1122
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 6: him like he was Saquon Barkley. And again, it's the

1123
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 6: ability and Jilly to be able to dip and change levels.

1124
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 6: And again his name is I Show Speed, so he's

1125
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 6: pretty you.

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00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: Think he's fast, but he staged tried like it was

1127
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: a touchdown, but he stayed.

1128
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 5: He was stride for stride with Devonte Smith, only he

1129
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 5: did get cooked. But it was a Smith. Yeah, Eagles

1130
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: wide receiver one.

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00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 4: In the article that Marcus you had sent over to

1132
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: us about this, I was reading it and they're like

1133
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 4: the team USA fully admits like, if these NFL players

1134
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 4: ever committed themselves to the game of flag football and earning.

1135
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 5: It, it's over for us.

1136
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 4: But they were like, until they do, we're gonna keep

1137
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: And they they basically said, like, we just did the

1138
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: basics today, Like there was a lot in our playbook

1139
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: that we didn't need to break out because you were

1140
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: cooking them with the basics.

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00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: No, I look, I have no doubt.

1143
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you are talking about NFL players being world

1144
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: class athletes, and so yeah, if if they devoted their

1145
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: time and energy to learning the techniques of fantasy football,

1146
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that absolutely they would be great.

1147
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: But you know, there's there's a much logger paycheck that

1148
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: comes with playing in the NFL than playing professional flag football.

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00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: The other part of this I thought about too, is

1150
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: sending I.

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00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: Mean, obviously we sort of learned right, But the other

1152
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: part of this is sending NFL players to the Olympics.

1153
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: Like you know, in in a lot.

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00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: Of sports where we send our pros, we have a

1155
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: good chance of winning, right like basketball. For years it

1156
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, the USA were sending our pros,

1157
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna win. Like I don't know, the Wimby Era

1158
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: could begin in Los Angeles, so that might not be

1159
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 1: a guarantee. You know, as we learned in the World

1160
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: Baseball Classic that US sending major leaguers is any guarantee

1161
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: to win, but it does assure us of at least

1162
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: being competitive for a medal. I don't know the Team

1163
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 1: USA is necessarily a lock in like flag for Maybe

1164
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: we are, but I know there are a lot of

1165
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: other countries that play flag football on a really high level,

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00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: so that like US sending the NFL players might actually

1167
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: be a detriment.

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, in the Olympics.

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00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 6: They would in place we sawid displayed in downtown LA.

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00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 6: We just talked about this. No, they would not like

1171
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 6: the strategies like I feel like Team SA did, like

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 6: Phase one, like it was just like the basics of

1173
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 6: biggses go out there. Let's not hurt these NFL players.

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00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 6: That's not juke the matter. They're socked. Let's not make

1175
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 6: them do more than entertained, you know what I mean.

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00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 6: And like some of these flag football teams man like

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00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 6: highly competitive, very like the way they draw some of

1178
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 6: these plays, like the double throw, Like I don't think

1179
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 6: people understand that. Like when you're doing the double throw

1180
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 6: and then passing it back, like you're running sideline. The

1181
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 6: sideline you have to grab these people flags. It's not tackle,

1182
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 6: so you're going to be burnt out by the time

1183
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 6: that third pass happens. You're like, oh, well, there's too

1184
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 6: much time for the quarterback in the pocket. So it's

1185
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 6: just like it's one of those things that I think

1186
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 6: NFL players they're just so much behind and just what

1187
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 6: the strategy is of flag football.

1188
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1189
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: I guess it was a fun exhibitions.

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00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: He's like, people had a good time.

1191
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 5: So entertaining.

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00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm all for. I'm all for the actual flag football

1193
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: players playing flag football in the Olympics. I'm also starting

1194
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: my campaign for with football in the Olympics.

1195
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 4: But that's a difference to McLean would be amazing because

1196
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: he basically throws at ball already.

1197
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: I tried to throw a football a few years ago,

1198
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised I didn't need Tommy John surgery.

1199
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: I was like, What's what is happening here? The other

1200
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: part of this is Odell Beckham Jr.

1201
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: Hoping that the flag football experience is a starting point

1202
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: to the return to the NFL. Hey, Odell, I've enjoyed

1203
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: watching you play, But.

1204
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 6: Come on, man, like I just come on the red

1205
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 6: zone thread him, d Hobb, DeVante Adams.

1206
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 5: They could start a.

1207
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 6: Whole new tier of serviceable wide receivers in the red

1208
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 6: zone now.

1209
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Also, d hop says he's ready to come back to

1210
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: the Vikings if they want him now that Kyler is

1211
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: there and no, come on, man, this.

1212
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: Is a fantasy football show. Do you do you want

1213
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: to have to parse this?

1214
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: Do you want to have to talk about DeAndre Hopkins

1215
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: when like when all of a sudden, Jordan Addison is

1216
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: not getting looks in the red zone because they're throwing

1217
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: allis to DeAndre.

1218
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: Jefferson isn't getting right, Like you're not going.

1219
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: To be happy about this, But Kyler, Kyler's scoring, so

1220
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: are we really going to complain on that end of it.

1221
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 5: So I just feel like, put your best.

1222
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: Rid just said I'm not drafting Kyler, So yeah.

1223
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: I'm going.

1224
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 5: That's your fall, that's your fault.

1225
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 6: Well, I'm just saying, like, if you can get an

1226
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 6: Odell Beckham for the Chief and he just constantly just

1227
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 6: runs a bunch of red zone fates, we see that

1228
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 6: he is still somewhat in shape and still can go

1229
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 6: up and grab that ball. Same thing with DeAndre Hopkins.

1230
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 6: Like I just feel like, if you want, like there's

1231
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 6: a couple of teams out there that are struggling to

1232
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 6: put six on the board, So why not hire these guys,

1233
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 6: sign these guys and they strictly just be red zone threats.

1234
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: Sadly, I sadly think Odell Beckham's career effectively ended in

1235
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

1236
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 5: Unfortunately he would have boy he was, he was.

1237
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 4: Odell should become the face of fantasy of not fantasy football,

1238
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: of flag football for twenty twenty eight.

1239
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 2: Because that's interesting.

1240
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 4: I think if he spent the next two years just

1241
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 4: like going that route, with his athleticism and his catchability

1242
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: and everything, he could be like an ambassador, a legit playmaker.

1243
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 4: I think, but also someone that really helps grow that game.

1244
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 4: I think his NFL de he's even if he signs

1245
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: an NFL contract, he's not going to be an impact

1246
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: player ever.

1247
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: Again, No, no, he really is. Just that, you know,

1248
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: he's that pinch hitter you bring in, you throw him

1249
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: like a third, a third and three out and then

1250
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: he goes sits back down again till the next time

1251
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: you need him.

1252
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: That's it. So, I mean, I've enjoyed watching his career.

1253
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: I think it's it's time to hang him up.

1254
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Yeah, I think for me to say, someone who.

1255
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: Never played like I, look, I did it. I know

1256
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: it's not easy to let go.

1257
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: I totally understand that. But you know, you know what,

1258
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Usually great players are the last to know when it's

1259
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: time to be to be done. And I think that's

1260
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: I think that might be what we're doing here. I

1261
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: know it's time for us to be done with this show.

1262
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that makes me a not

1263
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: great player at all, I have no idea anyway. Note

1264
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: this this was kind of a rambling, all over the

1265
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: place show, so thank you to all of you who

1266
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: made it to this point. Meantime, shout out to Devin

1267
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: Harris for sitting in for kind of who's taking it

1268
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: much deserve the break this week, so shout out to

1269
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: Devon for sitting and putting up with their nonsense for

1270
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: this hour or so. But that'll do it for this

1271
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Say happy, safe

1272
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: and healthy, do good and live well. Work on your

1273
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: duck walks, everybody, and we'll talk to you again on Thursday.