1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Allman really truly 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: honored to be filling in for Jesse Kelly. And this 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: is not unexpected. This is kind of the latest in 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: breaking right now that there is an oversight project that 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: noticed and this is a separate brand and band of 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: investigators who spotted a paper shredding truck outside of the 8 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: Justice Department today. The truck's appearance suggests the agency is 9 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: destroying sensitive paperwork before the Trump administration takes power, and 10 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: the Oversight Project posted on x this and said, today 11 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: a paper shredding truck arrived. We have maintained a physical 12 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: investigative presence by the Justice Department, which also is more 13 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: convenient for cooperating sources. And they actually show the paper 14 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: shredding truck. It's gigantic, and whatever is they're up to, 15 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do know that there are 16 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: a lot of individuals who are basically freaking out over 17 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: the idea of President Trump and his cabinet getting access 18 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: to cabinets. And I'm talking about cabinets of files, so 19 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: that should be interesting. Pay attention to this. But the 20 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: paper shredding truck in front of the DOJ is very, 21 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: very ominous, but not something that is a surprise. All Right, 22 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: you guys might have heard by now of Ryan Walters. 23 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: He is the oak Homa state superintendent. Ryan Walters is 24 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: a great guy. He's a warrior, and he is also 25 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: an elected state superintendent. So this is how it goes 26 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: in certain states. I believe there are only about thirteen 27 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: of them. I'm not quite sure of that. I think 28 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: that number is something I heard from Wyan Walter's office. 29 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: That elects their school superintendent, and it's really odd to 30 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: be in a situation where you have an elected school 31 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: superintendent instead of an appointed one, and the difference is marked. 32 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: So when you have an elected school superintendent, that person 33 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,279 Speaker 2: is elected by the people and ultimately is supposedly reflective, 34 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: I mean, under the perfect world of the will of 35 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: the people. An appointed school superintendent oftentimes is just a 36 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: bureaucratic seedling promoted by the ANAA and that person gets appointed. 37 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: Even some conservative governors have appointed these nut job ANYA people, 38 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: or if anything, appointed superintendents who don't seem to care enough, 39 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: so they just kind of stand on the sidelines and 40 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: don't do enough and just sit there and keep quiet. 41 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: Ryan Walters does not keep quiet, and he has just 42 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: announced that the state. And by the way, Oklahoma I 43 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: it was the only state in the country that was 44 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: all red. Not one county in Oklahoma was blue, not one. 45 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: So kudos to Oklahoma. Good job Oklahoma. Ryan Walters decided 46 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: he was going to make an announcement about some new 47 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: things he is bringing into the school system. 48 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm excited to announce today that Oklahoma is the first 49 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: state to bring the Bible back to the classroom. Today, 50 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: we purchased over five hundred Bibles that will be in 51 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: the ap government classrooms across the state. Bible. Just like this. 52 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: We have the Bible, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, 53 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: the Bill of Rights. These are foundational documents in our 54 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: nation's history. Our kids have to understand the role of 55 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 3: the Bible played in influencing American history. It's very clear 56 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: that the radical left has driven the Bible out of 57 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: the classroom, which leads to a lack of understanding of 58 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: American history. We will not stop until we brought the 59 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: Bible back to every classroom in the state. 60 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty gutsy. Now. As more of a libertarian 61 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: than anything else, I've always been very concerned about, for instance, 62 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: bringing back prayer in school in public schools. At least, 63 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: I send my kids to religious schools, and so religion 64 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: in those schools is taught by teachers and everybody else 65 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: who are there because of their religious teaching credentials. So 66 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. In the public school system, 67 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: it's a little different. Sometimes I am concerned a little 68 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: bit by the fact that you bring prayer back in school. 69 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: Just wait until the nea nutjob teachers start to edit 70 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: the prayers or add things to the prayers, or create 71 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: their own prayers. I mean, you've seen it. All you 72 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: have to do is go to libs of TikTok and 73 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: you'll see how many teachers ran amuck in the run 74 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: up to the Trump election and then ran a mock 75 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: in the aftermath of the Trump election. And so I've 76 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: had some concerns about that, because you never know whether 77 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: or not the handling of this kind of material is 78 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: a good thing in the hands of people who otherwise 79 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: bastardize it, people who are not actually aware enough or 80 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: smart enough to handle the kind of heavy machinery that 81 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: goes along with religion. The Bible is another story in 82 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: my estimation, because first of all, even if you don't 83 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: believe in God or you're not a particularly religious person, 84 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: the Bible is a masterpiece of history and drama. And 85 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: because the Bible, and Ryan Walters gets this right about 86 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 2: it too, because the Bible has been an intricate part 87 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: of many amazing developments and sometimes not so amazing I 88 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: don't know, in history, and presents the backdrop to many movements, 89 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: many breakthroughs, and of course, as he points out, even 90 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence and that kind of thing. It 91 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: is actually a totally and completely appropriate item to have 92 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: in your classrooms now, whether or not someone who was 93 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: going to be teaching the Bible as a book or 94 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: as an influencer. I mean, let's face it, people read 95 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: Greek mythology, Kids read Greek mythology. They even read things 96 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: like Moby Dick and Raise It in the Sun and 97 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: all these books that basically are part of the fabric 98 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: of our society and To Kill a mocking Bird, which 99 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: I dreaded reading. But yeah, but there's still important pieces 100 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: of literature that actually had influence on people and are 101 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: worthy of consideration in a historical context. I would even 102 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: take it further and say that they have. Certainly they 103 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: have a place in a literature environment, in an English class, 104 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: which would be great because I'm telling you, the characters 105 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: in the Bible, the drama in the Bible is nothing 106 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: short of amazing. Even if you don't do the God thing. 107 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: The Bible is indeed an incredible masterpiece and should not 108 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: be separated from our youth, from young people only because 109 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: religions use it. And so I think he raises a 110 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: good point. I'd be a little concerned about some of 111 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: the people handling this gem because you never know how 112 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: they are going to bastardize that, much like they would 113 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: bastardize a prayer. But it seems like a good development 114 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: if it's put in a context that is not shoving 115 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: it down your throat. I wouldn't even be opposed. If 116 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: you're gonna go ahead and do a historical, contextual type 117 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: of class, why not get the Torah in there and 118 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: even the Kuran in there for crying out loud, and 119 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: put them all together. But you got to have somebody 120 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: who is going to be smart and not a biased 121 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: crazy And that's the biggest challenge that Ryan Walters has 122 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: in introducing the Bible now Walters, though has been now 123 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: roundly criticized. Of course, the Cable newspeople have him on 124 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: and decide they're going to try to rake him over 125 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: the coals as some kind of religious zealot when he 126 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: clearly pointed out that the Bible does have an important 127 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: historical context that must be learned. Check this out. On 128 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: the other side of this, you're going to hear an 129 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: anchor try to go after him who has no idea 130 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: what even separation of church and states. So I'll have 131 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: that for you on the other side. Here, this is 132 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: the Jesse Kelly Show, and I'm Jamie Almon, glad to 133 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: be with you. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie 134 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: Almon here, pleased to be with you and speaking of 135 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: the just as a little side piece here, there is 136 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: a Bible that now is encased in this plastic in 137 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: North Carolina because the Bible was found sticking on a 138 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: post after Hurricane Helene came through and the Bible was 139 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: opened to Revelation chapters fourteen and fifteen, and they found 140 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: this thing on the post and they decided to enshrine it. 141 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: So this Bible is found after the flood from Hurricane 142 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: Helene on this spinth post and in his own revelation 143 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: fourteen and fifteen all the things destroyed that was left 144 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: open and it's setting there and we're not touching it. 145 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 4: So this house is buried and flooded all the way 146 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: to the roof. Originally the man that lived here had 147 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: to be rescued off of the roof by raft. And 148 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: they're just empty demo in the entire house. And this 149 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 4: Bible found on a pole open to revelation, yeah. 150 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: Up by that. And you know what's interesting too, is 151 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: that this isn't the first time that's happened. I mean, 152 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: it does happen, and maybe somebody put it up there 153 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: and open it, who knows. But still it's pretty cool. 154 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: And I do have anecdotal evidence that these kinds of 155 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: things have happened before, because I'll never forget. As a 156 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: young guy, I used to love listening to Paul Harvey, 157 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: Paul Harvey Good Day and he would, you know, page two. 158 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: And we listened to Paul Harvey because I was in 159 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: journalism at the time, and so Paul Harvey was an 160 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: excellent writer and a broadcaster, so he knew how to 161 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: write crisply and quickly, and he didn't use a whole 162 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: lot of commas in parentheses and things like that. And 163 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: he was a good standard bearer of really fine, solid 164 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: type of news type of broadcasting. And I'll never forget 165 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: he did a story because he always did the you 166 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: they it's called a kicker, so it's supposed to be 167 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: the thing you do at the end and makes everybody 168 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: feel good, and that kind of thing. It's where you get, like, 169 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: for instance, in TV, you get the skiing squirrel and 170 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: things like that. And so I'll don't forget this because 171 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: I thought it was really pretty funny just the way 172 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: you put it. But anyway it was. It was after 173 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: another weather event and he told the story about this 174 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: house being basically destroyed except for one wall remaining up 175 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: and on that wall was a picture of Jesus Good Day, 176 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: and that was it. Adam was fantastic. So it does happen. 177 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: These phenomenons do happen, all right back to the Bible 178 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: of the Oklahoma Schools. So he goes on with this 179 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 2: nit wit named Pamela Brown. She's a left wing kook 180 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: on CNN, and she decides she's going to kind of 181 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: go after him. And of course, normally, like normally in 182 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: journalistic interviews. You ask somebody a question this, You're really 183 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: not supposed to be the person responsible for debating the 184 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: guy over the merits of it. You just ask him, so, 185 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: why'd you do this? So? What is this? What about 186 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 2: the people who say this? Instead? She sits there, she 187 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: might as well have had a rolling pin in her hand, 188 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: and browbeats him over his decision to infuse these Bibles 189 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: in the ap history classes. 190 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: And here's how it goes religious liberty. The Constitution's crystal 191 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: clear on religious liberty. I know the left doesn't want 192 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: our kids to know anything about the role of the 193 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: Bible played in American history. They don't want any of 194 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: our kids to know about the Constitution. Our religious liberties 195 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: are protected. And the Left has driven the Bible out 196 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: of schools, driven prayer out of schools, and everything in 197 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: education has gotten worse. Since before we had a federal 198 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: Department of Education and we had the Bible and prayer 199 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: in school. Guess what we were leading the free world. 200 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: This was the greatest country in the world, and we 201 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: have seen every statistic has gotten worse since the creation 202 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: of the Federal Department of Education, and the Supreme Court 203 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: pulled the Bible and prayer out of schools. President Trump 204 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: is won on this issue. He has a crystal clear mandate. 205 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: It's one Americans want, It's what Oklahomas want. 206 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: And actually Ryan Walter's won on the issue as well 207 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: because he was an elected or it is, an elected 208 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: state superintendent of schools, which I heartily endorse for every 209 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: state to adopt the concept of the elected school superintendent. 210 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: So we're going to deliver on those on President Trump's 211 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: promises here in Oklahoma. 212 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 5: All right. First of all, the Constitution is not crystal 213 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 5: clear on that it doesn't have God in it. There 214 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 5: is this establishment clause in the First Amendment, which the 215 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: Supreme Court has routinely said it requires the separation of 216 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 5: church and state and public schools. There are many. 217 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: Cases and this is where the dimwit comes out in 218 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: Pamela Brown, and this is a common mistake and how 219 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: she gets to the level of being a journalist in 220 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: this situation, probably highly paid, and not have a clue 221 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: about what the separation of church and state really is. 222 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: In fact, there are a lot of people out there 223 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: who confuse the separation of church and state with a 224 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: demand that God or religion come nowhere near the public 225 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: square or the public schools. And they missed the fact 226 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: that Thomas Jefferson, in his letter to the Baptist Church, 227 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: the concern was the establishment of a state religion and 228 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: the fact that there's a possibility the government would then 229 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: be involved in religious activities. The separation of church and 230 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: state was solely designed to keep the government out of religion, 231 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: not keep the religion out of government, not keep the 232 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: religion out of public square. Very simple. And even though 233 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: there really isn't the letter in the Constitution, it's part 234 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: of the establishment clause of the First Amendment. So, if anything, 235 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: even Walter's decision as a political figure as well as 236 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: the leader of the Oklahoma Public school system absolutely is 237 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: nowhere near violating the concept of the separation of churches 238 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: states specifically, And of course, you know he's consulted people 239 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: on this, he's not an idiot. Specifically designing the book 240 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: the Bible as a historical piece as opposed to necessarily 241 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: a religious piece designed to convert students or do whatever 242 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: it's going to be in a historical context in a classroom. 243 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: And it's also happens to be his prerogative as a 244 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: public figure and a public representative and this idea somehow 245 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: this is some violation of the separation of churches state. 246 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: It absolutely is not, And Dimwitt doesn't know what the 247 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: concept of separation church estate is. All right, They're still 248 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: going after the cabinet appointees. Will have more on that. 249 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. And I'm Jamie Allman. 250 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: Feeling a little stocky. Follow and subscribe on social at 251 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly DC. 252 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Allman here, pleased 253 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: and privileged to be with you, filling in and things 254 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: are getting kind of silly. There is a woman now 255 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: all over the Internet saying that she wants Elon Musk's 256 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: Martian baby. So presumably she wants to go up to 257 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: Mars with Elon Musk and pro create and have Elon 258 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: Musk's Martian baby. So it takes all kinds. It's a 259 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: new frontier. And of course Elon Musk being part of 260 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: the President's cabbet so to speak, even though they have 261 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: the job that might not be necessarily the cabbet position, 262 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: but it is still a position in the government, and 263 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: he and they're going to do great and Vivek are 264 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: gonna do fantastically, But anyway, there's somebody hunting for you there, Eline. 265 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: They want to have your Martian baby, so uh be prepared. 266 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: All right. You all know a operation you've probably been 267 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 2: there before that the website Politico. So Politico is one 268 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: of those news organizations like Axios. Axios came out of 269 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: nowhere during the twenty sixteen election and became kind of 270 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: like this news operation that nobody really knew anything about. 271 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: They just kind of appeared out of nowhere. It's kind 272 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: of like the Drudge Report, where although at least at 273 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: the Axios they had names attached to the articles and 274 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: that kind of thing, but it had, you know, some 275 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: financial backing by some nefarious figures and really was there 276 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: to push an aggregate anti Trump, anti conservative, anti common 277 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: sense propaganda. Politico is similar in that way. Politico kind 278 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: of comes across as this innocuous, non biased reporting agency. 279 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: But we all know what the truth is. These guys 280 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: who hide behind this idea that they're balanced individuals and 281 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: they don't they mean no harm, no nothing. But every 282 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: once in a while things will come out and they 283 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: will slip. And so you all know Sean Duffy, probably 284 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: from Fox News or what have you, but you certainly 285 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: don't know him. I know, I don't know him as 286 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: a reality TV star. And so Politico decides they're going 287 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: to do this article, and this is part of this 288 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: ongoing campaign against President Trump's cabinet appointees. It's really designed 289 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: to basically, we prosecute the twenty twenty four election through 290 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: adversarial actions towards the cabinet appointees. So basically, instead of 291 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: and we all know that the enumerated powers of the 292 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: Constitution afford the executive branch, why breadth in the choice 293 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: of cabinet members. It's kind of one of the reasons 294 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: why Lincoln was able to get Democrat and Defense Secretarius 295 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: war Guy Stanton, who turned out to be a disaster, 296 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: but it was an effort to unify the country and 297 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: all that kind of thing. So Trump's appointees are being 298 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: treated basically like their Supreme Court nominees. You know, I 299 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 2: understand that Gates has some things to answer, he was exonerated. 300 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: I think that he might be a troubled choice if 301 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: the Republicans have their way, who are also Thuned and 302 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham and Murkowski and Susan Collins and all these 303 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: people who actually didn't help Donald Trump. They weren't there 304 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: for him, and yet now are acting like the country 305 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: voted to make John Thune great again and Susan Collins 306 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: great again. No, not exactly, so they had this newfound relevance. 307 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: But generally there's a wide breadth of allowability of cabinet 308 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: appointees unless someone is, you know, downright crazy. Last time 309 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: an appointee a cabinet appointee was rejected was back during 310 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: HW's time as John Tower. But before that, I think 311 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: he had to go back to Coolidge or something. And 312 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: it's rare that cabinet appointees are rejected unless there's something 313 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: really crazy. At that point. During HW's time, it was 314 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: John Tower was a womanizer and a drinker and all 315 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, like, well, welcome to Washington for 316 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: cred out loud. So anyway, the political people decide that 317 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: they're going to have this article here and it says 318 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 2: president like Donald Trump's transition effort is continuing to churn 319 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: through potential picks for the next head of the Transportation Department, 320 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: with the current crop of names including a former reality 321 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: TV star, and most people are thinking, who are you 322 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: talking about? Oh, well, we're talking about Sean Duffy. I'm like, 323 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: wait a minute. Shawn Duffy was an assistant district attorney 324 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin for eight years and a member of Congress 325 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: for eight years representing Wisconsin, and political calls him a 326 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: former reality TV star. It's just unbelievable. And now, of 327 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: course the news media is going on in all out 328 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: war against President Trump's choices. Not only we'll get to 329 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth in a bit here. I know that Jesse's 330 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: talked about it, but ABC and CBS apparently are now 331 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: clutching their pearls over the Energy Department cabinet appointee and 332 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: the FCC. So they're finding any way to disagree on 333 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: something so much as the Energy Department of the FCC. Now, 334 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: remember when Pete Buddhajudge, who had no experience at all 335 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: in transportation, was named Transportation Secretary. You didn't see a 336 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: whole lot of the the face fanning and pear clutching 337 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: that you see with the news media on something so 338 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: small as the Energy Department or whatever. But of course 339 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: you also didn't have President Trump's very consequential policy changes 340 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: that he's going to be instituting and he wants to institute. 341 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, here's ABS's making it clear. 342 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 6: He plans to overhaul government agencies, tasking billionaire confidant Elon 343 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 6: Musk and the Vek Ramaswami to lead a newly created 344 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: Department of Government Efficiency. 345 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now the news media, of course, is 346 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: in the mode of defending government agencies. Now that's the 347 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: how times have changed, you know, since the days when 348 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: reporters and journalists were adversarial and were not individuals who 349 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: worshiped institutions and worshiped the deep state and beyond. 350 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 7: We expect certain agencies to be deleted outright. We expect 351 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 7: mass reductions in force in areas of the federal government 352 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 7: that are bloated. We expect massive cuts among federal contractors 353 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 7: and others who were overbilling the federal government. 354 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 6: Ramas Swami and Musk there by Trump's side at the 355 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 6: fight this weekend. So too was his pick for Energy Secretary. 356 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 6: Chris Wright, one of the nation's top fracking CEOs, right 357 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 6: has fiercely criticized the existence of a climate crisis. 358 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: There is no climate crisis, and we're not in the 359 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: midst of an energy transition. 360 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: So, by the way, it's interesting the use of words 361 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: that reporters use. And the reporter said that he criticized 362 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: the climate crisis, which is actually not what he's doing. 363 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: He's doubting there is one crisis. 364 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: There is no climate crisis, is right. 365 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 6: One of the nation's top fracking CEOs, right has fiercely 366 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 6: criticized the existence of a climate crisis. 367 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 2: Okay, so the reporter is stating as fact that a 368 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: climate crisis exists. And so, man, I'll tell you I've 369 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: been I've done it my whole life. I've been a 370 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: TV reporter, radio reporter, you name it. And I've seen 371 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: people sitting there like a bunch of lawyers, crafting their 372 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: reports in ways that you can't possibly imagine, and sometimes 373 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: in ways that you would not be able to catch. 374 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: Just as a layperson who's never been in the broadcast business, 375 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: this stuff jumps out to me right away when she 376 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: says that he criticized the existence of a climate crisis. No, 377 00:25:53,640 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: he doubted the reality of people claiming that there is 378 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: a climate crisis. He doubted it, but he didn't criticize 379 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 2: the existence of it because we are not sure and 380 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: we do not know that a climate crisis exists. So 381 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: that's the TV people basically stating as a matter of 382 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: fact that there's a climate crisis. 383 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: There is no climate crisis, and we're not there is 384 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: of an energy transition either. 385 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 6: Right who has no government experience has argued the impacts 386 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 6: of climate change are overblown. But scientists agree humans are 387 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 6: causing global warming and climate change. 388 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: That's actually not true. Scientists do not agree on that. 389 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: Maybe scientists that are read by ABC News, but scientists 390 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: do not agree. And that's irresponsible and lazy reporting when 391 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: you state as a matter of fact something scientists like 392 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: who are they name all them and then name the 393 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: people who don't agree. But that's the kind of reporting 394 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: you're getting. Wait till you hear more this. Pete Hegseth, 395 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: Defense Secretary of point Me. This smear job just continues 396 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: to get more fierce by the day. I'll have more 397 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: on that as we crap the BS. Here at the 398 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show, I'm Jamie Alman. 399 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly returns next. 400 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. Jamie Alman here, 401 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: super excited and honor to be filling in for Jesse Kelly. 402 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: And you know some people might find it annoying because 403 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: I happen to be and actually they do find it 404 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: annoying because it happened to be a little more pedantic 405 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: about watching the news than other people might be. Because 406 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 2: that's why my ninety six year old mother, she watches 407 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: all the mainstream news, and when I'm sitting with her, 408 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: all I do is scream at the TV. And it's 409 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: not very pleasant. I don't really scream at it, but 410 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm always correcting them and 411 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 2: trying to make sure she's getting the right information as 412 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: opposed to the boloney information. But she's still watches that 413 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: in PBS News Hour and like Lordie, So anyway, words matter, 414 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: and the way the news media just absolutely propagandizes through 415 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: its loyally way of putting words together is just outrageous 416 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 2: and unacceptable. And the only good part about all this 417 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: is that one thing the Trump election proved in the 418 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: end is that very few people are getting their news 419 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: from these places, but they still have an impact on 420 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: people because guess what, all these nutty Republicans watch these 421 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: news programs because they appear on them, So they still 422 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: these news organizations still have a place in Washington and 423 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 2: among some influencers, but not among the normal, average, everyday 424 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: people who just assume that they're lying to them. So 425 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: this is ABC's Mary Bruce, and this is on Good 426 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: Morning America, and this is the tar target Pete Hegseth, 427 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: who is a decorated war veteran, great guy, and he's 428 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: getting hammered over this Jerusalem Cross tattoo. They're getting to 429 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: the point where they're even analyzing his tattoos and of 430 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: course getting it all wrong, because as we all know, 431 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: the Jerusalem Across, well, you can pretty much find it 432 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: on bibles, on grandma's necklace, as one person on X discovered, 433 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: and pretty much everywhere, even on one priest put it up. 434 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: He has it on his wrist. And so the Jerusalem 435 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 2: Cross is a well known symbol of religiosity, and it 436 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with white supremacy, unless, of course, 437 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 2: the white supremacist decide they're going to use it in 438 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: their white supremacy. But that doesn't make it a white 439 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: supremacist symbol any more than Hitler holding a Coca Cola 440 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: would make Coca Cola a Nazi beverage, you know what 441 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: I mean. So anyway, this is Mary Bruce listened. 442 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 6: To this hag Seth is also under fire for some 443 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 6: of his tattoos. 444 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: To pick right out of the blox, we get this one. 445 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: He's not under fire. He's under fire by the news 446 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: media and all of the idiots on X. But he's 447 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: not under fire. And in fact, do we have to 448 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: beg for any kind of precision from the news media 449 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: to say, hey, okay, so who was he under fire 450 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: by other than people in your newsroom and the people you. 451 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 6: Text with ding religious symbols and phrases. The fellow service 452 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 6: members flagged to his superiors over concerns they're associated with 453 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 6: white supremacists. 454 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: Now, well, those fellow service people are idiots. They don't 455 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: understand the Jerusalem across any more than these bozo in 456 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: the news media do. Just because some fellow service members 457 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: I think that's a white supremacy, does it mean that 458 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: they're right about it? I mean, just because you stare 459 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: like the dog into the victrola cone, because you don't 460 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: understand a symbol or a tattoo doesn't make it right. 461 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: Oh it's fellow service members complain, Well, maybe they're just 462 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: as dumb as Mary Bruce. 463 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 6: Haig Seth, saying those concerns amount to anti Christian bigotry posting, 464 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 6: they can target me. I don't give a damn, but 465 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 6: this type of targeting of Christians, Conservatives, patriots, and everyday 466 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 6: Americans will stop. 467 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: On day one. 468 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 6: At Donald Trump's Department of Defense, heg Sas post notably 469 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 6: not disavowing the supremacists who have adopted the symbols. 470 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so apparently now it's Pete HeiG sas job to 471 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: disavow a symbol that has been adopted and bastardized by 472 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: some group of kooks who just happen to be using it. 473 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: So it's Pete hegsa's job to take the co opting 474 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: of a clearly a religious symbol. And you talk about 475 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: cultural appropriation. Just because some nutjob white supremacist starts to 476 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: use it on their literature, does it make it a 477 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: symbol of white supremacy. It makes it a symbol that 478 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: is bastardized and co opted by the white supremacist. So 479 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: they're going nuts over this and does it stop there? 480 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: At ABC, here's. 481 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 8: NBA Sally also, Hegseeth has been a vocal critic of 482 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 8: the deadly US withdrawal from Afghanistan, and now there are 483 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 8: reports that the incoming Trump administration could punish the military 484 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 8: officials involved in that pullout. 485 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: What more can you tell us? 486 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 487 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 5: NBC News has learned that members of the transition team 488 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 5: are compiling a list current and former military personnelity. 489 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're damn right they are, and they should. You know, 490 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: anytime you have a new management team, which is what 491 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: the United States of America does, and the new management 492 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: team is also part of the new management at the 493 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: Pentagon and beyond. You go in and you figure out 494 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: the people who have done poor jobs, bad jobs, made 495 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: bad decisions. I'll talk about Jesse's favorite restaurant, Red Lobster. Well, 496 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: you know what happened they did. They went ahead and 497 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: they had a all you can eat crab leg event. 498 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: It was the dumbest idea in the world, because people 499 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: who go to Red Lobster are people who will eat 500 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: the place out of house, snow home. They put crab 501 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: legs down their skirts because they're good, they're delicious. Well, 502 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: then they came back and then the all you can 503 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: eat shrimp and so eventually they basically bankrupted Red Lobster. Well, 504 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: I guarantee you the new administration of Red lobster's going 505 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: in and saying, hey, who made that decision to have 506 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: the all you can eat crab leg thing that bankrupt 507 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: bankrupt do ues. It's not dissimilar in government, you do 508 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: the same darn thing, and I'm glad that they're getting 509 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: to the bottom of it. But there's no quarter given 510 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: to anybody who is associated with Donald J. Trump. But 511 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 2: the good news is we're on our way and nobody 512 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: really cares about what the news media has to say 513 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 2: all the time. Chris Little, thanks so much. Corey, thank 514 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: you as well. Jesse Kelly, thank you for the privilege 515 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: of filling in for you. You guys have a great rest 516 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: of your days. I'm Jamie Allman, happy to have been 517 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 2: with you.