1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: The whole wide receiver competition is I think one of 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: the best. You know, you really look at it this 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: year and I think you have four walks. I'll tell 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: you one thing, it would be super loud. From a 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: national perspective, it's gonna be the keeps to leave Michael 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Crabtree showdown. That's gonna take center stage. To step in 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: between them. I'm not I'm gonna leave you as the 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: dummy to get in there in the middles, Welcome into 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: the lounge. An old friend is back. Garret. Oh my, 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm Ryan me be here. It's gonna be here. I'm 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: you guys, didn't change my ikey Co password. As I 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: walked in the building today, I still know my way around. 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: It's actually, you know what's funny, is there actually having 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: some significant changes to the building since I was last year. Yeah, 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: construction is done, and so I was walking around and 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: I literally had to find my way around the building. 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't exactly sure to go. So it's not even 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: a joke. It's not even a joke. Anyway, We're happy 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: to be back. Had a nice Fourth of July break. 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Garrett was traveling everywhere. I kind of stayed at home 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: but now we're back and we're getting ready to kick 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: off training camp here in less than a week. While 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: the rookies already afforded it's already kicked off kind of, 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like it yet. Yeah, definitely. When 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: they're not out there practicing, it's not really training camp. 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: But it's exciting to have players just walking around and stay. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: It's here for sure. So with that said, let's go 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: jump into the emails. Got one from Rod Holmes and 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Rods says, Hey, guys, I'm Rod. I currently live in Atlanta, 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: but I'm originally from Baltimore, and I love your podcast 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: insider information like none other. I believe we're one superstar 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: offensive weapon away, like Odell Beckham, from being a perennial 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender, especially with the additional Lamar Jackson. The 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: defense is young and deep with great veteran leadership. Do 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: you guys agree, what one superstar offensive player away from 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: being a perennial Super Bowl contender. That's a great question 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: and a great way to put it, I think so. Like, 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: so let's just say just use Odell Beckham as an 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: example and put him on the team. Last year, are 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens in the playoffs, I say probably yes. Now, look, 41 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: Beckham got hurt last year, but I just take that 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: out of conservation. But like if you put an Odell 43 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: Beckham or Tannian Antonio Brown, Wilio Jones, one of those 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: guys on the Ravens, are they in the playoffs last year? 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: I think so. I think that they are. And if 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: you remember what we were all saying in December last year, 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens were a team that nobody wanted to face 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and like, I think that they 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: could have made some noise if they had gotten into 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. So like, so now we're talking 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: about them being a team that can make a run 52 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl and then contend for a championships. 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: So like, yeah, I think so. And I think to 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: the point on offense specifically, I still think this offense 55 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: needs somebody to step up that's a superstar, mega star. 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens haven't really had that in a while. 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean Quan, I mean, Steve Smith, you know these 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: are Ray Rice is probably the latest example. Yeah, uh yeah, 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: I would say him. I mean even before that, Jamal 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: Lewis was a stud um. Now Joe is obviously the 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: superstar of the group. He's but he hasn't played like 62 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: the you know, top five quarterback the past few years. 63 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: So if he can return to that status, then he's 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: your guy. And that's what the Ravens obviously banked on 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: after he won Super Bowl. Um. But you know, there's 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: a part of me that, you know, I would have 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: liked to stay Kwon Barkley. It's slid, you know, all 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: the way down to the right right impossible, but somebody 69 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: like that, Like I think if you would stuck se 70 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: Kwan on this team this year, some kind of just stud. 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Now the unfortunately wasn't like a stud wide receiver in 72 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: the drafts or whatever. But if the Ravens can find 73 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: one of those guys, yeah, I think and I think 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I think the quarterback. I don't want to beat you know, 75 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: hang out on this point for too long, but I 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: think the quarterback pieces is part of it. But I 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: really think it's a skill position player. Like it's it's 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: the wide receiver, it's the back potentially even a tight end, 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, like all right, you would think about what 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: Gronk has done for the Patriots, and there's a handful 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: of guys like that. Um, So I do. I think 82 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: if they can get a true dynamic offensive player, maybe 83 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: it's Lamar Jackson, Um, that they could be a team 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: that's very much in the hunt for the Super Bowl. 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: Avercingle year. Yeah, I would agree with that. So with 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: that said, let's let's turn our focus toward training camp, 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: and and we're just gonna kind of give a little 88 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: training camp preview here, Garrett and I'll open it up 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: with this, what has the most excited for training camp? 90 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I think that it's the offensive what I would look 91 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: at as we're talking about the offense and these playmakers. 92 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: I just feel like the offense going into training camp 93 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: is in a much better spot this year compared to 94 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: where it was last year. Obviously, there's a quarterback being healthy, 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: which is there's that whole dynamic. But we don't need 96 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: to spend too much time talking about that. Quarterbacks healthy. Good, 97 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: that's great, It was good, UM, and I just feel 98 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: like they seem to be seemed to be a better 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: rapport with him. Michael Crabtree really snead John Brown during 100 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: the offseason compared to where we were last year. I mean, 101 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: Macklin obviously, him and Joe never really had much time 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: together until the final week before the regular season. So 103 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: I feel like they're already starting ahead of where they 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: were last year. And if you can build off of that, 105 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: then you don't go into the first half of the 106 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: season where you feel like the offense is sort of 107 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: just kind of figuring it out. Let's play conservative, let's 108 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: not try to that's that's just kind of lean on 109 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: the defense, try not to do too much because, let's 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: be honest, that's kind of what the Ravens had to 111 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: do last year based on injuries and the fact that 112 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: they hadn't had any time together. So I'm just really 113 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: excited about offensive, the offensive, particularly the passing game. Yeah, 114 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: and I think what you're talking about is the building 115 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: of the momentum, which really started halfway through last year. 116 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: Right the offense has been gaining this momentum ever since 117 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: then they had the weapons. Then they have a good 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: summer so far in O t S and it's exciting 119 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: to see whether they can continue to build upon that 120 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: because they're not there yet, you know, they they still 121 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: need to continue to build that as we get close 122 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: to the regular season, and just the kind of you know, 123 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: it's in the scene ving, but I think it just 124 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: just the offensive playmakers. I mean that's been the story 125 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: of the off season, is all the additions and whatnot. 126 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, is Hayden Hurst during training camp going to 127 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: prove that he can be a guy who catches sixty 128 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: seventy balls this year? You know? Is he going to 129 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: be ready? Crab Tree, Smokey Brown? Can smoke Smokey Brown 130 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: stay healthy and keep making big plays? Can Crabtree prove that, 131 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: you know, he's the superstar that he has long been? 132 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: You know, inspite of the down season last year? You know, 133 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: Alex Collins, all these guys, you know, particularly the new guys, 134 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: so Snead, how how do they kind of gel with Joe? 135 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: How do they what do they show? And uh, you know, 136 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: are they the Ravens have gone all in on those 137 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: guys having bounced back years? Do they show during training 138 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: camp that they're ready to have a bounce back year 139 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: and take this offensive a new level? And then maybe 140 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: he's exciting. Maybe does do you get a surprise like 141 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: does Jordan lastly as a fifth round pick surprise you 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: and turn out to be a guy that you can 143 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: count on in his rookie see says he will He 144 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: told me. Don't count me out as for being a starter. Hey, 145 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean that guy's not short on cop fans and 146 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: I like it. I mean, um, you know a lot 147 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: of times you talk about wide receivers, you want a 148 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver personality, Well, Jordan Lastli has that, Um, Julia 149 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: Scott or even Roscoe Perriman. I mean, does Rashide Perriman 150 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: surprise you and have a really strong training camp and 151 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: make it clear that he needs a spot on this 152 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: team and he needs some reps um and that he 153 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: could be something that you count on. Those are the 154 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: kinds of things that as we're talking about I think 155 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: that I'm really really excited about this year. It's funny 156 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: that neither must mentioned Lamar Jackson. Yeah, I was just 157 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna say that, which is kind of crazy. I mean, 158 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: obviously his progression, and I think the reason that you 159 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: don't that I don't talk about him a lot right 160 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: now is just because I look at this as a 161 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: red shirt ear for Lamar in terms of playing starting quarterback. 162 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Uh So he's not like in the team plans. I 163 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: don't think he's a huge part of that. Now. As 164 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: we've all talked about and written about and all this 165 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: stuff all all season. They're gonna find ways to use 166 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: them in different packages and that's exciting to see, you know, 167 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: different How how can you get creative and get them 168 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: on this exactly? So that so that is definitely exciting. 169 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: But I'm more interested in the guys who are going 170 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: to be seeing you know, sixties seventy snaps the game 171 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. It is not a guy who's going to 172 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: see three. Yeah, but I will say this, I'm really 173 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: when you talk about not necessarily just training camp, but 174 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: when you talk about the preseason, he is definitely gonna 175 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: be the must see TV component for me. I think 176 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: for people nationally, you know, there's gonna be a lot 177 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: of national eyeballs on the Ravens that there have not been, 178 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: particularly when it comes to preseason football, Like the third 179 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: quarter of Ravens football in the preseason is now going 180 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: to be the most exciting thing in the NFL. I 181 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: mean it really, it really is. It's true, And uh, 182 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: I can't this is a little plug make sure that 183 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: you watch our games on preseason because we got the 184 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: best preseason broadcast booth. Jerry Sandusky, Brian Billick, haven't Washburns. 185 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, So it makes sure to be a 186 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: company man. Yeah, and by those tickets preseason tickets. Yeah, yeah, 187 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: you gotta come to the games. Yeah, exactly, So a 188 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: little plug there, but yeah, all seriousness. I'm excited to 189 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: see what he does in the preseason. Yeah cool, because 190 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: you want to see how soon could this guy be 191 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: a starter? You know? How good is he right now? Uh? 192 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: You want to see, all right, is this the guy 193 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: who if Joe goes down in week you know, God forbid? 194 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: You know week four, is the mar Jackson gonna be 195 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: ready to take over? Or is it gonna have to 196 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: be r G three? You know? Is he how is 197 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: he progressing in terms of being the quarterback of the future. 198 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: I think that's all really important. The other thing too, 199 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: that I've said with him is I don't think you 200 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: can get a true gauge on him. And this is 201 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: true for all players, but I think it's particularly true 202 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: for him. You can't get a true gauge until you 203 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: see him in games because he's so mobile and part 204 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: of so much of his game is is getting outside 205 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: of the pocket, making plays with his feet, and practice 206 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: as soon as anybody gets close you below the whistle 207 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: of dead. Well, maybe that's somebody in a game, he 208 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: breaks that tackle and runs for sixty yards. You can 209 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: see that on the practice field exactly. He kind of is. 210 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: He jukes some guys, but they're not coming up to 211 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: hit him, you know. So it's a whole different story. 212 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. So let's just say 213 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: you go through the preseason, he is lightening it up? 214 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: Is these these third and I mean, well, just think 215 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: about last year, Like there was all the buzz around 216 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: Josh Woodrum and he played great in the preseason and 217 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: there was all this excitement about him, and then he 218 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: got his his real chance. He didn't play so well 219 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: in the fourth place. But but let's just say he 220 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: goes out there um and plays great. Yeah, Lamar Jackson 221 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: lights it up. What what happens then? Nothing? I don't 222 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: really think that changes anything. Yeah, I mean, I think 223 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco would have to be the most miss would 224 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: have to look like me, are you throwing at the 225 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: ball out there in the preseason football? For Lamar Jackson 226 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: to be the starter week one, even if Joe's terrible 227 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: and Lamar is awesome, Joe is gonna be your starter. 228 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: I think week one. I don't think there's a question 229 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: about that. I agree. I don't think that there is. 230 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: But I think if if Lamar lights it up in 231 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: the preseason and Joe is bad in the in the 232 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: preseason and Joe goes in the regular season, the offense 233 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: is struggling mightily because of Joe and you say man 234 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: Lamar was doing well, yeah, I think that it would 235 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: shorten the leash a little bit. Yeah, yeah, but I 236 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: think that's pretty long leash right now. Yeah, I think 237 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: it is pretty long leash. It's just it's just an 238 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: interesting thing to talk about, cause everyone obviously wants him to, 239 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, all these guys to play great. But if 240 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: that happens, then maybe that uh, that that question becomes 241 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: a little bit louder. Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you 242 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: one thing, it would be super loud. From a national perspective. 243 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh from from national news outlets be going bonkers. 244 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: We'll be going bonkers for it now. As locally as 245 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: we have been this whole time, have all been saying, 246 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: pump the brakes, pump the brakes. They want to give 247 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: him the red shirt season. You know, he's not quite ready, 248 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: but if the play on the fields betters, you know, 249 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: and and so if he lights it up and Joe 250 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: don't looks so great. It's going to be a storyline 251 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: for sure. All right, So we both agree that that's 252 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: not really a starting job that Supper grounds, but there 253 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: are some starting jobs up for sure. Crap. So for you, 254 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: what's the top position battle that you're going to be 255 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: kind of focused on. I think it's on the offensive line. 256 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not really one position battle there, 257 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: it's the group. You really don't know how that's gonna 258 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: shake out. I mean, right now, you only know two 259 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: of the five starters. Ronnie Stanley is gonna be a 260 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: left tackle and Marciana is gonna be at right guard. 261 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: It's Orlanda Brown or Hurst. James Hurst could be at 262 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: right tackle, James Hurst or Alex Lewis could be at 263 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: left guard, and Matt Scurro or Alex Lewis or Nico 264 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: has an outside chance, I would say, could be at center. 265 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's really anybody's guess right now 266 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: as to how that's gonna shake out. I'll say this, 267 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: I think going into training camp, I think the ravens 268 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: ideal starting five, if all things played out how they 269 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: would want it, I think Orlando Brown would be at 270 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: right tackle. I think Alex Lewis would be at left 271 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: guard and Matt Screw at center. Maybe maybe or Landa 272 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Brown at right tackle, Aleslis center and James Hurst left guard. 273 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: You know that's my favorite. I know that's your favorite. Um, 274 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: maybe if all things, if everybody played well and all that, 275 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: maybe that would be their their preferred starting. Yeah. I 276 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing James Hurst not in starting lineup. 277 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: They just gave him a nice contract extension and I 278 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: think that he proved last year that he can be 279 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: a pretty good left card, So I have a hard 280 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: time seeing him not be starting. Um, you know, you 281 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: don't got to convince you about changing. Yeah, right, how 282 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: he preaches the quirre um. But I also I really 283 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: like Orlando Brown. I've said it before on this podcast 284 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: and elsewhere that I think that he he could end 285 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: up being the best pick in this draft draft for 286 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens, and I think that he has all the 287 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: tools to be a Day one starter, and I think 288 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: that Ravens gotta steal there. And I think you'd be 289 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: you're starting right now. Has all the tools and they're 290 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: going to give them the opportunity to show you know, 291 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: they throughout mini camp and went out. They were like, 292 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: all right, you're running with the first team and you're 293 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: there the whole time. Him and Hayden Hurst were the 294 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: only two guys consistently running with the first team at 295 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: any point during the off season, right, So you know, 296 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: you know how strongly they feel about him and they 297 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: know what they have and Hurst, you know, they know 298 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: he can step out to very tackle and he can 299 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: play it at a at a good level, so very solid, 300 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: high level. So um, I think they want to see 301 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: if we're laying the if Zeus Jr. Can Can handle it, Yeah, 302 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: I think And there's value to Hurst just just saying 303 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: like they signed to the extension, but you are going 304 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: to use six offensive lineman during the season almost for 305 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: a lot of it. Your six offensive lineman gets a 306 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: lot of actions. So Hurst, even if he does isn't 307 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: a Week one starter, is still a valuable, very valuable 308 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: member because if anybody goes down by injury, he can 309 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: step in left tackle, left guard. Only center would be 310 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: the only one that would be a stretch. And he 311 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: said tell us he he took some STAPs during warmhop 312 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: center exactly. So you know, James Hurst is going to 313 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: see a lot of action this year. Yeah, um, defensively 314 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: group real quick. I mean, I think inside linebacker there's 315 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: still the question mark there. I think it's Peanut is 316 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: the guy you know next to c j H. Does 317 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Kenny Young surprise us? And maybe you know as he 318 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: compete there? Um, But that's really I mean, that's the 319 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: main spot. That stuff for grabs, you know, it's the 320 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: corner thing I think is the interesting one. It's it's 321 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: which really hinges on Jimmy Smith. So if is Jimmy 322 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: healthy enough to be out there and expect him to 323 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: be your Week one starter? If not? It's very interesting 324 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: on the other side because you have Marlon who I think, 325 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: uh media wise, is considered the favorite for the job 326 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: because he's then up and coming guy. I think they 327 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: think he has definite Pro Bowl potential and you want 328 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: to let him spread his wings. You want to give 329 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: him the opportunity. But here you have Brandon Carr, who 330 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: has never missed a start in his career. All he's 331 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: known his entire career is being a starter. You're sixteen games, 332 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: so he ain't going to give that spot up easily. Um, 333 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: So that I think that's an interesting, interesting battle there. 334 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: I totally agree, and again it all to me and 335 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: you agree, is that it hinges on Jimmy Smith whether 336 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: he's healthy. And I could see there being a situation 337 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: where even if Jimmy, that's say Jimmy starts week one, 338 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing eighty snaps the game with 339 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: one my guess, right, all right, so let's go the 340 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: other direction. Players that are gonna be fighting for the 341 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: roster spots. I think that there's a number of kind 342 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: of notable players, high draft pick players on the bubble. 343 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: I think at the top of the list is Brashott Harriman. 344 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's you know, short leashed there and everyone 345 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: has said Brashaw knows this is make or break time 346 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: for him, and it's already been that way. He was 347 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: doing his bonus already, right Well, I think the third 348 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: day of training camp and their training camp hasn't started, 349 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I don't think I'm not sure the 350 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: exact date on that, but I don't think it's it's come. Yeah, yeah, 351 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: Brasha is gonna be really interesting. The whole wide receiver 352 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: competition is I think one of the best, obviously because 353 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: it always is. It's a sexy position. But you know, 354 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: you really look at it this year and I think 355 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: you have four locks. You have three definite locks and 356 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: Crab Street, Smokey Brown and Willie Snead. Chris Moore is 357 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: pretty darn close to a lock, I think. For he's 358 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: a sending player on offense and what he does on 359 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: special teams, you gotta think at least one of the 360 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: rookies is going to be on the team. Between Jordan 361 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Lastly and Jalil Scott. Then six guy, are you talking 362 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Brashod Perryman or are you talking a returner like Tim White? 363 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: You need a returner. Yeah, they don't have one right now. 364 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: I liked him White there. I think Tim White could 365 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: be the guy in outside trans Generian Grant I think 366 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: is an undrafted guy I think has a shot because 367 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: of what he brings as a return er. Um. So 368 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: that makes things very tighter for Brash Perryman and all 369 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Yeah, for sure. Um. And then I 370 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: think you go through it and look at some other spots. 371 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's Kamala Carrea. You know, he's been 372 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: an inside linebacker, outside linebacker. He's really working it outside now. 373 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: He thinks that's gonna help him. Um, he's somebody who's 374 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: obviously been humbled, but he needs to play well because 375 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: outside linebacker, if that's gonna be his spot, that's a 376 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: deep group. There's a lot of talent there. Bronson Gefusi, 377 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: third round pick last year, he only played in a 378 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: handful of games. What's that gonna look like for him? Um? 379 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: I mean those are three guys that are taught. I 380 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: think the first three round draft picks tight ends. Maxill 381 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: h second round pick, right behind Rashad I believe right. Um, 382 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: So that's another high position where and and we haven't 383 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: talked about this, but r G three is competing for 384 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: a position. If they keep three quarterbacks, which I think 385 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: part of that depends on how well Mark Jackson plays 386 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: in practice send in preseason games, then somebody's got to 387 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: go somewhere, and tight end could be that spot. You know, 388 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: because you have you already have, or it's fullback, you 389 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: have a card you know who can act kind of 390 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: as a tight end blocker. How many spaces you have 391 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: for blocking tight ends? You know now that you drafted 392 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: two rookie tight ends, so you're gonna have Boyle on 393 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: the team. Heydon Hurst is gonna be on the team. 394 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is going to be sure, So that's three. 395 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: I personally think that Max is on the team. I did, 396 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: I probably would lean that way, but then where you're 397 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: coming from, you gotta cut from somewhere, and then that 398 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: gets into that kind of conversation. Special team or Albert McClellan, 399 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: I think, is another guy to keep an eye on 400 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: as a veteran who is going to have to win 401 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: that job. Anthony Levine. You know, they've drafted safeties back 402 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: to back years. Anthony has been a very versatile guy, 403 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: valuable guy on special teams and stepping in on defense. 404 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: But he's gonna have to earn a spot too. And 405 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: both those guys are coming off injuries. So yeah, So 406 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: one thing that's different this year is just the timing 407 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: of things. I mean, typically in July twelfth, there's not 408 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: players in the ability. It's the first time that we've 409 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: ever had players here this early for the start of training. 410 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: Everybody always asked me, all right, so like you get 411 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: some time off when you come back to work. I'm 412 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: like late July, you know, like at the end of July. 413 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: No ear. Yeah, the Ravens are the first team in 414 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: the NFL to report. They even the ahead of the 415 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, who they're playing in the Hall of Fame game. 416 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Report five days later. I think it is here next week. Yeah, 417 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean it's it's really interesting. And the 418 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: question Garrett is, you know, are you concerned at all 419 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: with the extra practice stuff. I wouldn't say concerned, but 420 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: I do think that just naturally speaking, more football, practicing 421 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: more football, playing more football will lead to more injuries, 422 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: because that's just it's just a it's a physical, filing 423 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: game and guys get hurt, you know. Uh, And so 424 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: if you play more, there's a higher chance of injuries. 425 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: And so John Harba did talk about how they're gonna 426 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: have to manage that. You know, there's I think it's 427 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna be maybe more better and off days. That can 428 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: mean maybe, I don't know, if it's shorter practices, less 429 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: intense practices, particularly the early part of things reps um. 430 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: You know, in the preseason games like the Hall of 431 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: Fame game, for example, the starters aren't gonna suit up 432 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: for that at all, you know, like those you're gonna 433 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: do those kinds of things which the Ravens honestly have 434 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: really in game action we're talking games, they've played their 435 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: starters kind of less. Yeah, um, and they've protected them 436 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: pretty well in game action. So, but practice injuries happen. 437 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: You've seen just every single year, those guys that get 438 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: hurt and miss an entire season, right, I mean obviously 439 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: you can't put these guys in bubble rep right, Like 440 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: you're saying, more practice equals more chances for injuries. Well, 441 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: but more practice also means more opportunity to get good 442 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: at your craft, right, So it's an obvious positive, and 443 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: you can't put them in bowl rap. You know, you 444 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: gotta play the game to get good at the game. 445 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: So it's it really is a double edged sword. And 446 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think that that is something that the 447 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: Ravens and Coach Harball thought a lot about and have 448 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: taken steps to try to minimize injury along with Steve 449 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: Saunders and the whole recovery staff and all that stuff. Um, 450 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: and they've you know, we do a lot of knocking 451 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: on wood and um not gonna have done a pretty 452 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: good job of that because the Ravens haven't had the 453 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: injuries that they have in the in years past. Uh, 454 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: we just gotta hope that continues. Yeah. And then the 455 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: other part of it, too is that the Ravens are 456 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: practicing with other teams, which there's joint practices. They have two. 457 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: If you guys don't know this, they have two joint practices. 458 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: The first is with the Rams here leading up to 459 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: that game, uh, after the Hall of Fame game. Right 460 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: after the Hall of Fame game, Los Angeles Rams are 461 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: coming out here. It's gonna be the key to leave 462 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree showdown. That's gonna take center stage and stepping 463 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: between them, I'm not I'm gonna leave you as the 464 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: dummy to get in there in the middle. I'm gonna 465 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: get back guy. I gotta guy. That guy always gets punched. Yeah. Um, 466 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: so you know you have that. And then right after that, 467 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: you've got the Colts where the Ravens are gonna gout 468 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and they are going to have time with Colts. 469 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: So two joint practices, which the Ravens. I don't think 470 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: I've ever done, Um, certainly not since I've been here, 471 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: which you know, even one is kind of rare. More 472 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: teams have done one, but two this is unheard of. 473 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: So um, that is an interesting dynamic. I think it's 474 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: good because it's such a long training camp, you know, 475 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: like you break it up and these guys get tired 476 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: of hitting each other. But I think you do have 477 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: to worry about in these joint practices things getting too chippy, 478 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: guys protecting each other, like when you're in at least 479 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: when you're in practice with your own teammates, guys sort 480 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: of no, we are on the same team. We're on 481 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: the same team. I'm not gonna take any cheap shots. 482 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: You know, we're in this together. It's stinks hitting each 483 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: other every single day for the entire hot summer, but 484 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: at least we're in it together. When you bring another 485 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: team into the mix, you just need to make sure 486 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: that those teams kind of share that same dynamic. And 487 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are battling for Joe jobs, right, 488 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: so they're they're gonna bring it. You know, They're out 489 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: to prove something, and I think when you have an 490 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: opportunity to prove something against another team, sometimes you can 491 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: get a little over zealous and that leads issues. But 492 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, I expect everything to be good. Every time 493 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens have had joint practices previously. You know, there's 494 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: always the Century Guard with the first flight gonna be 495 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: all this stuff, you know, and they've always done a 496 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: good job. Like I honestly can't think of a big brujaja. 497 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean with there was not a sa there's nothing. Now. 498 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: The Eagles started getting a little bit chippy with some guys, 499 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: but not much at all. Uh, you know the forty niners. 500 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: I think the harbors were unlock on that way snuffing 501 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: that out. Um, So it will be interesting and obviously 502 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: the crab tree to keep the leave thing will be 503 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: something to keeping. Yeah, and if nothing else, it's gonna 504 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: be some a good few days of content, both those 505 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: practices for sure, for sure. So Garrett, well we'll end 506 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: it with this. Everybody always wants to know, all right, 507 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: who's hidden jam all that stuff? Who's your under the 508 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: radar player to watch at Raven's treating kid. Well, i'll start. 509 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple. The first one is a 510 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: guy that people got to know last year but I 511 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: think is an ascending player is Willie Henry Um. He 512 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: last year during the offseason program, he was working as 513 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: a starter. He was working on that starting defensive line 514 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: I think he showed last year he's got those flashes 515 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: of he could be a nice player in the past 516 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: rush department. I think he's got teaming journagin type potential 517 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: in terms of being kind of a quick twitch guy, 518 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: has the ability to get after the quarterback. So I 519 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: think that he is definitely somebody that is on the rise. UH, 520 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: and I like what what he can bring to the mix. 521 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: And then offensively, I mean I mentioned him earlier. I 522 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: don't know if he's necessarily under under the radar, but 523 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: I think Jordan last day is definitely you know, like, 524 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: is he somebody that can become He told you he 525 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: said that he can be sorry, right, Um, I want 526 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: to see what he can do. Yeah, I'll go. Since 527 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: you gave two, I'll give two. I guess with the 528 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: pressure on, I'll go with Kenneth Dixon. I like that 529 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: one under the radar player to watch. I think he's 530 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: always had the talent. Last year, this is your third 531 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: right year, Picky, kenn Kenneth Dixon is bordering on James 532 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: hurst Man crush levels for me. Um. I just think 533 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: he's a really talented player. And I think that last 534 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: year in UH summer practices, it was clear who the 535 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: best running back was over Terence West. This is you know, 536 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: before Collins came Alex Collins. So kenn Dixon, I think 537 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: it was gonna take that certain job last year and 538 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: before his injury and and that was really unfortunate. But 539 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: he's back. I think he looks good. You know, he's 540 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: still getting in his best tip top shape, I think. 541 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: But uh, he's somebody to keep an eye on because 542 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: I think he's going to that number two running back 543 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: spot is important. And and Buck Allen played well last 544 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: year too. I'm not taking anything away from Buck. I 545 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: thought he played well. So that's gonna be the competition 546 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: there between Kenneth Dixon and Buck Allen is really good 547 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: for the number two spot. And the other wide receiver 548 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: that outpoint too is Tim White. Yeah, we mentioned him. 549 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: I think that you know, he's gonna be on that 550 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: bubble him as a returner. He was exciting guy last 551 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: year as a returner and the wider c e uh, 552 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: he's flashed some so far already this summer. I think 553 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: that he'll be It'll be interesting to see if he 554 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: can pick up where he left off. Taking you one 555 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: more about if everyone's under the right or Joe Flaco. No, 556 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: I think you'll agree with this one. Chuck Clark. Oh, 557 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: you know I like Chuck too. Yeah, Chuck Clark. Uh 558 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: but six round pick, six round pick last year pretty 559 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: much only played special teams, was used sparingly on defense. 560 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: Late in the season, he was much more involved defensively. Now, 561 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: Anthony Levine did not participate at all during the offseason 562 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: program because he was coming back from a foot issue. 563 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: Uh So, when Lavine's back, you would think that maybe 564 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: he takes some of the snaps. But Chuck Clark, the 565 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: Ravens like him, and he played well on special really 566 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: well on special teams, and he when you play well 567 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: on special teams, you earn more reps defensively, and he's 568 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: done that. Yeah, I would agree with him. You know, 569 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: I feel like I said I wouldn't. I would not 570 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: be stunned if Chuck Clark starts a game this year. Yeah, 571 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be stunned. Yeah, um, it'll be. He's he's 572 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: another under the radar guy. I think you want to 573 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: throw out any Morgan six or seven other under the 574 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: radar guys watch under the radar reporters here we go. 575 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: Uh No, so I think it's gonna be a fun 576 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: training camp. Uh, it's gonna be a long training camp. 577 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: You better get your sun screen out, get a little tan. 578 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Not really, you're still pretty pasty. I layer out the 579 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: sun screen when I'm on vacation. Get the hat ready 580 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: to get you gotta get your stupid goofy floppy. I'm 581 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: definitely gonna have the floppy hat out there. That's definitely 582 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: gonna have out there. Yeah. So we'll be out there 583 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: and we'll be bringing you tons of good coverage. At 584 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: least we hope it will be good. We think you'll 585 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: enjoy it, yeah, uh, And and interviews and all that stuff, 586 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: so make sure you keep it locked right here. And 587 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: as always, you can email us at the lounge at 588 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. And we also want you 589 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: guys to know that July twenty one, that's the free 590 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: open practice at m T Bake Sad and we get 591 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: started at six pm. So if you weren't one of 592 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: the lucky people that register to come out here to 593 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: watch practice, you can still see the team for free 594 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: in training camp again Saturday, July. Funny. First, we have 595 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: to see you guys there and we're excited about having 596 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: fans back. So if you see us out there, if 597 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: you call the practice h our loyal allowance listeners, say hi. 598 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: You know we maybe we can't chop it up for 599 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: fifty minutes. We gotta do our chops. But what would 600 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: love to to meet you all and shake your hands, 601 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: so please. You know we loved it during fans You 602 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: know I feel great. Yeah, make sure you track us down. 603 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: We'd love to meet you. But but that said, we'll 604 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: be back with you next week with another edition of Allowns. 605 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for the sacond