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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Straight Fire?

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Speaker 3: Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday, September nineteenth.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge night.

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Speaker 3: Of football featuring the Jets of the Patriots. Oh I

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Speaker 3: cannot wait. So fired up about it, and to celebrate

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Speaker 3: the game, decided to have on a big Patriots guy,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Shatz. He used to be at Football Outsiders, He's

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Speaker 3: now FTN Fantasy shats on a bit of a heater,

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Speaker 3: as he called the Saints this offseason a prediction that

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Speaker 3: they would be way better than everybody else thought, and

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Speaker 3: the Patriots as well. So I think you're gonna like

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Speaker 3: that chat. At the end of after the interview, we'll

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Speaker 3: do best bets. The only thing I quickly want to

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Speaker 3: hit before we get to shats. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you guys saw this story, but I found this fascinating

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Speaker 3: and just a symbol of where we are in sports

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. So Cran's Detroit has a Lions

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Speaker 3: coach Dan Campbell's selling house amid security concerns. Dan Campbell

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Speaker 3: is quoted as saying too many people fount.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me get the exact quote. The neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: It's everything. There's plenty of space, it's on two acres.

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Speaker 3: The home is beautiful. It's just that people figured out

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Speaker 3: where we lived when we lost. They listed the house

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Speaker 3: earlier this week, folks. Essentially, the Lions lost the game

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Speaker 3: they should have won to the Bucks. Nutjob fans. I

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Speaker 3: guess did stuff bothered them? Showed up at the front door.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And now Dan Campbell's like, we got to get out

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Speaker 2: of here. Is that not messed up? That is that

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Speaker 2: where we are in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: The second you lose a game, boom, you're showing up

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Speaker 3: at the coach's front door and rattling his cage.

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Speaker 2: You guy's got a family, Why would you do that?

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Speaker 3: I know Lions fans are starved, and I got a

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Speaker 3: couple buddies who are a big ten Lions and they

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Speaker 3: wouldn't do this, But like, come on, that is just

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Speaker 3: that's really deplorable. I will say, on a very small scale,

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Speaker 3: when I went after the Toronto Raptors, do you guys

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Speaker 3: remember that I had a Saturday radio show on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio and I went off on this rant when

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Speaker 3: Kawhi So they won the title and then Kawhi was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna explore my options and see where I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: And it was clear he was not going back to

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Speaker 3: Toronto and he was picking the Clippers. And I went

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Speaker 3: on this rant about the Raptors, the luckiest championship ever.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for the Raptors to go back to

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Speaker 3: the basement where they belong.

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Speaker 2: It was a good little rant.

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Speaker 3: It got millions of views, and all these nut jobs

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Speaker 3: in Canada start coming after me, and you know, it's

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Speaker 3: a lot of normal you souck.

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Speaker 2: You're in nothing more on blah blah. I'm used to

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Speaker 2: that crap. I don't care none of that.

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden I see people saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: so you live in blah blah blah. Now this was

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Speaker 3: years ago. We've moved since, and I you know, it

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Speaker 3: did some stuff to kind of obscure where I live.

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Speaker 3: You can try some stuff online. None of it all works.

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Speaker 2: There's always some stuff popping up.

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Speaker 3: If somebody wants to find out anything, they pretty much can,

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Speaker 3: but you know whatever, and it just it just struck

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Speaker 3: me as that's how desperate some of these fans are.

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Speaker 2: They're just crazy. Here's what's not crazy. The Jets are

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Speaker 2: winning tonight.

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Speaker 3: So first let's do Aaron Shats and after the interview,

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Speaker 3: come back best bet. Last Thursday did not go well,

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Speaker 3: Primetime Texans did not go well. Monday Night Football did

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Speaker 3: not go well. Folks, very off week for your boy.

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Speaker 3: We're bouncing back after the Shats interview, Best Bet Thursday

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Speaker 3: Night Football.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: listen live. You know, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 1: fans want, but for everything he doesn't, he knows the

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Speaker 1: guy who does.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 4: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome back to straight fire a guy.

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Speaker 3: Listen all off season, everybody thinks they know everything, and

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Speaker 3: I'm prattling on about how I love the Eagles and

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today Aaron Shatz of FTN Fantasy. He's a

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Speaker 3: creator of DVOA. Still he still writes a gambling column.

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Speaker 2: For ESPN.

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Speaker 3: He is the lone voice in the wilderness who like

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Speaker 3: the New Orleans Saints they are now two and oho.

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Speaker 3: He also shockingly, well not so shockingly, like the Patriots

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Speaker 3: who are in his backyard, and they're a feisty one

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Speaker 3: and one.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Shats, How are you man?

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Speaker 4: I'm good. Yeah, it's been a good year for for

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Speaker 4: my predictions so far. I did not think the Saints

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Speaker 4: were going to be this good. What I said was,

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Speaker 4: people think the Saints suck and they're actually average, and

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Speaker 4: it's good that they hired Clint Kubiak and they have

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Speaker 4: better than average, and it's really good that they hired

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Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so tell me this.

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Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak has never called plays before. Best I could

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Speaker 3: tell he goes to the Saints. Did that adjust any

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Speaker 3: of your numbers on New Orleans?

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Speaker 2: And if so, why?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Because I put something into my offensive projection system

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Speaker 4: this year that gave a boost to any team that

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Speaker 4: had an offensive coordinator who came out of a McVeigh

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Speaker 4: or Shanahan system.

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Speaker 2: Wow, now I've never heard that. How do you quantify that?

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Speaker 4: I just went back and just looked at which teams

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Speaker 4: had an offensive coordinator that came out of those systems,

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Speaker 4: and did they do better than you would have expected otherwise?

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Speaker 4: And the answer is overall, you know, not every team,

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Speaker 4: but overall those teams are better on offense than you

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Speaker 2: Now, it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: We had Albert Brera on yesterday and I said to him,

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Speaker 3: if you look at the last four NFL drafts, you

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Speaker 3: could look at every single quarterback drafted, one site will

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Speaker 2: It's like maybe there's been forty.

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Speaker 3: Only two of them aaron so far are working, and

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Speaker 3: that's CJ. Stroud and Brock Purty. And they're both in

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Speaker 3: Shanahan's system. So there is something to his system. Can

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Speaker 3: you like articulate our audience what the hell that system

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Speaker 3: is that makes it so special and quarterbacks can thrive?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's the motion and the play action and

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Speaker 4: you actually see? They like lap the lead year after

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Speaker 4: yards after the catch. And the Saints were terrible at

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Speaker 4: much better at yards after the catch with Clint Kubiak

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Speaker 4: Shanahan offenses are plug and play with running backs. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the play action works for the passing And looked at

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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell has made Sam Darnold look good for crying

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Speaker 3: Now you know Koubiak again, Like the problem is when

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Speaker 3: you get a guy who's looking awesome as an offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: instantly everybody wants to hire him, right because he wants

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Speaker 3: to be a head coach. So we saw Ben Johnson

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Speaker 2: Aaron maybe it's me. It's definitely early. But so far

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Speaker 2: through two games, I would say Ben Johnson has looked.

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Speaker 3: A little either predictable or defenses have kind of solved

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Speaker 2: But have you seen a little regression from the Lions

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Speaker 4: Yes? Oh, their offense hasn't been as good in the

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Speaker 4: Could he be a guy? And he looks like he

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Speaker 4: kind of is. But they're still not as good as

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Speaker 4: you would expect. But again, just two games. The larger

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Speaker 4: that this is a really good offense, so I'm not

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Speaker 4: really worried about them in the long term. You're absolutely

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Speaker 4: right about the offensive coordinator thing, though. If the Saints

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Speaker 4: coach of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: Really in one year? You think that quickly?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll tell you, as a Patriots fan, I

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Speaker 4: understand that Gerardmeyo was the guy in waiting and all that,

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Speaker 4: NFL is to hire some off the Shanahan or McVeigh

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Speaker 3: Coordinator, regardless of whether they call plays or they were

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Speaker 4: No, that's why McDaniel was just along for the ride.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Let me push back a little on McDaniel.

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Speaker 3: Last year, at the end of the season, we started

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Speaker 3: to see a little bit of defenses.

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Speaker 2: Doing better again.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they weren't dropping seventy off season, nor should anyone.

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Speaker 3: But this season early McDaniel's offense has not looked great.

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Speaker 3: They really struggled against the Jacks. They did end up

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Speaker 2: And then the same thing against the Bills, and now

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Speaker 3: I wonder is the bloom a little off the roads

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think he can do for Skyler Thompson

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Speaker 4: what he does for two at Tago.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't expect them. I expect them to

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Speaker 4: struggle for the next four weeks. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: Thompson can get Yeah, I mean they'll get Hill open,

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Speaker 4: and they'll get you know, they'll get Waddle open. But

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he Sky or Thompson can get

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Speaker 4: them the ball and Seattle, by the way, they play

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Speaker 4: Seattle this week. Seattle has been really good in coverage

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Speaker 4: in the first couple of weeks, like really good at

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Speaker 4: past coverage. So that's not That's not the first team

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Speaker 4: you want to put Skylert Thompson against.

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Speaker 3: Well, so I like Seattle this week a lot. However,

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Speaker 3: the line's going against me, Aaron. And have they been

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, that's true. That's true. They have faced bo

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Speaker 4: Nicks and Jacoby Brissette. But they've also been really good

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Speaker 4: They do run a lot on first down?

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Speaker 4: They run a lot on first down. They run more

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, he's been blessed to have It's hard

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Speaker 2: Look at right now, Okay, Slowa ker Kubiak.

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Speaker 3: Look at, Wow, that's where we what about Okay, So

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would take the Texans.

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Speaker 4: And I like the Vikings more than the market. Before

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here's my issue with that, among other things, Aaron,

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Speaker 4: Or how teams play, the underlying stats of how teams

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Speaker 4: worried about those injuries. You were talking about from Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a hot pick up this week in fantasy.

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Speaker 2: By the way, are you doing fantasy this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm in a couple of different leagues.

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Speaker 4: where we draft football players, baseball players, and basketball players

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Speaker 2: That sounds kind of cool. I've never heard of that.

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Speaker 4: And in the big first six rounds, we do six

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Speaker 4: I took both Christian McCaffrey and two attack of I

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Speaker 4: love oh come two quarterbacks. Two quarterbacks in the NFL league,

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Speaker 2: Leagues, all right, so sorry to hear about that. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: Let me go to Bears at Colts.

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Speaker 3: I know the rookie quarterbacks famously haven't thrown a touchdown

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting that the line's only a lot

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Speaker 3: I don't know if like I'm a loser, so I'm

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Speaker 2: This Colts defense is so beat up right now to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, does any game jump out at you on this

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Speaker 2: Maybe an underdog and a favorite that you like.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I'm the leader of the new

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Speaker 4: I like mostly favorites. This week. I think the Chargers

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Speaker 2: Well that justin Herbert's situation. It sounds like that why

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Speaker 4: If Herbert plays. I think I like the Chargers as

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Speaker 3: Harball mentioned Eastern Stick in his press conference, which is

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing that there's a chance. You know, listen, you

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Speaker 2: Watt here.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you take a chance, right, you just

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Speaker 4: Yes, and now it's three. I don't remember three, three.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now it's Saints minus two and a half Aaron.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you because here, but here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: No, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: They I mean they faced Jordan Love and Kirk Cousins too,

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Speaker 2: Is that fair?

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Speaker 2: He could pick you apart. He's got a good arm.

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Speaker 4: I guess they did. They did that probably because they

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Speaker 3: Man Cousins didn't only took one underneath. Everything else was

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Speaker 2: They got out of it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't say it worked.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, how about this? Uh, you gave a favorite

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do mostly like favorites. This week, the closest

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Speaker 2: So let's go to the Patriots. I was saying, this

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Speaker 3: picking number one again, Mayo clunky in the preseason, erin

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Speaker 3: with his whole.

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Speaker 4: Buncky in this last game. Two.

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yet somehow they are two and zero against the

442
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 3: spread and looking feisty. I'm nervous about the I hate

443
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Speaker 3: to say it. I bet the Patriots getting six and

444
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Speaker 3: a half. But I'm curious, what have you seen that's

445
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Speaker 3: a positive from the Patriots and why were you high

446
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Speaker 3: on them in the preseason.

447
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Speaker 4: The main reason I was high on them was that

448
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Speaker 4: we had their defense projected to be really, really good

449
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Speaker 4: before the judon trade. We had their defense projected third

450
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Speaker 4: after the Judon trade. That dropped to ninth after the

451
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 4: Judon trade and the bar more blood cloths. And now

452
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 4: they've lost Bentley to the linebacker, so they're having some

453
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Speaker 4: injury problems, but that is still a good defense, and

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Speaker 4: the offense is just not going to make as many

455
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Speaker 4: mistakes as last year with Brissette. You're just there's very

456
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Speaker 4: like there's no ceiling, but the floor is much higher

457
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Speaker 4: and they can run the ball. So they're going to

458
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Speaker 4: run the ball. They're going to shorten games. They're gonna

459
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Speaker 4: play good defense, which means they're gonna be feisty, and

460
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Speaker 4: they're gonna win a game or two that they shouldn't win.

461
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Speaker 4: Like I can pretty much guarantee you they are not

462
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Speaker 4: going zero to six in the division.

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Speaker 2: M m okay, I thought that was a lock.

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Speaker 4: Are the other three teams better than them? Yes? Will

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Speaker 4: they stir up and somehow win one of those games? Yes.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you about the Jets who and this

467
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Speaker 3: is I don't know where you are on Pro Football

468
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Speaker 3: Focus if you even look at their stuff, but they

469
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Speaker 3: somehow have Aaron Rodgers graded out as the fifth best

470
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Speaker 3: quarterback out of thirty three in the league, and that

471
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Speaker 3: to me is a bit of a red flag. Listen,

472
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers has been He's looked better than Kirk Cousins,

473
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Speaker 3: if you will, outside of the one Cousins jay, but

474
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Speaker 3: fifth best quarter graded out as the fifth best quarter

475
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Speaker 3: that's insanity because he had a couple of easy tosses

476
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Speaker 3: against the Titans.

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Speaker 2: The offense feels a little limited, does it not.

478
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Speaker 4: Maybe they feel like he's getting the ball the receivers,

479
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Speaker 4: and the receivers just start making it happen. I mean,

480
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Speaker 4: when Williams is not one hundred percent and so maybe

481
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Speaker 4: Lazard is your number two, that's a real like it's

482
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Speaker 4: just the Garrett Wilson show, and then everybody just double

483
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson and you're okay as long as Bruce Hall

484
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Speaker 4: doesn't like escape from the backfield or something. So maybe

485
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Speaker 4: they feel like he's just not being helped enough by

486
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Speaker 4: his receivers. But I you know, I test of what

487
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Speaker 4: I've seen from the Jets, I wouldn't say that Rogers

488
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Speaker 4: is currently the fifth best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: That being said, one of yours, one of the smartest

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Speaker 3: things you have always said is that defenses year to

492
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Speaker 3: year do not hold up. There is a drop off

493
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Speaker 3: offenses are more predictive year to year, and case in

494
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Speaker 3: point to New York Jets defense, which was by some

495
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Speaker 3: metrics best in the league, second best, whatever you want

496
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Speaker 3: to call it.

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Speaker 2: They're terrible so far this year. Can you explain it?

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're really having trouble with the run, which is

499
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Speaker 4: shocking given the Williams is Mosley's injured. Now, I guess

500
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Speaker 4: it really is the inconsistency of defense. And this is

501
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Speaker 4: a defense that I thought would would get around the inconsistency.

502
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Speaker 4: You know, we still had the projective really really good,

503
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Speaker 4: but the inconsistency of defense. They depend a lot on

504
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Speaker 4: the three corners. So if the cornerbacks are hurt, you

505
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: just you can avoid a mod gardener and go after

506
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Speaker 4: backup cornerbacks. If there's no Dj Reed or Michael Carter,

507
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Speaker 4: you know, it's it's I think they'll do better over

508
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Speaker 4: the more than two games, but the run defense has

509
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Speaker 4: been the biggest problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just if I'm the Jets against the Patriots here,

511
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Speaker 3: I don't think this is a difficult game plan. I'm

512
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Speaker 3: fine manning Folk and Osbourne and Douglas individual, and I'm

513
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Speaker 3: stacking the box and saying, Jacoby Brissett, I double dog

514
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Speaker 3: dear you to beat me over the top, and if

515
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Speaker 3: you do, we tip your captain.

516
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Speaker 2: You know what, We're confident in our office.

517
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Speaker 4: That's everybody's game plan against the Patriots.

518
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Speaker 3: But yat, why is it not working? Is a Patriots

519
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: offensive line better than we thought? I think they're the

520
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 3: left side of their line is.

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Speaker 4: Certainly at run blocking. They're better than we thought. Although

522
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Speaker 4: there's no Vederian Low this week, it's going to be

523
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Speaker 4: the rookie Caden Wallace at left tackle.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he played a whopping eleven snaps and that's a

525
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Speaker 3: third round pick.

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Speaker 2: That's not like a first round or either.

527
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Speaker 4: Brissettes made a few good passes. They've gotten a couple

528
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Speaker 4: of really good yak plays. I think the Antonio Gibson,

529
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Speaker 4: if I remember correctly, the big Antonio Gibson play was

530
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Speaker 4: actually a pass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Gibson just when he had like forty.

532
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Speaker 4: Five yards or something, he looked dead to rights in

533
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Speaker 4: the backfield and then he got out of it. And

534
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Speaker 4: so it's not I mean, you know, I'm a little

535
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Speaker 4: disappointed in Polk so far. He certainly hasn't done with

536
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Speaker 4: the other rookie wide receivers have done. I mean, yeah,

537
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 4: he was drafted later, but still it's a little bit disappointing.

538
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: But you'd like to see them get the ball to

539
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: the Mario Douglas more. But you know, again, they're feisty.

540
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: They're gonna finish like six and eleven. But it's still

541
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Speaker 4: better than people expected.

542
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Speaker 3: Certainly two more quick ones Carolina at the Raiders? Can

543
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Speaker 3: you back Andy Dalton on the road? I don't know

544
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Speaker 3: what to make of the Raiders that lucky come back

545
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Speaker 3: against the Ravens. I guess down ten in the fourth

546
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Speaker 3: quarter and then they store them back to win. Can

547
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Speaker 3: you get involved with the Panthers here?

548
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I can. Actually, I think there's more. I think

549
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 4: the Panthers have more without Bryce Young. They have more

550
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Speaker 4: than you think they have without Bryce Young and without

551
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Speaker 4: Derek Brown and the ray I don't think Las Vegas

552
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 4: is very good. Five and a half seems a little

553
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Speaker 4: bit too big for me.

554
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Speaker 2: I think the game of the week argue.

555
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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people will say Baltimore Dallas,

556
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Speaker 3: but I'm just fascinated by Lions Cardinals. We already talked

557
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: about Ben Johnson underperforming Arizona has looked over. Yeah, Aaron,

558
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 3: they led I think the Bills seventeen three and then

559
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: the Rams like twenty four to three. They're coming out

560
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: and throwing haymakers. Did you expect this or see this coming?

561
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, this one. I did not because

562
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 4: we were like, Murray hasn't really been that good for

563
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Speaker 4: a year and a half, so we were like, you know,

564
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Speaker 4: I don't know if Murray is that guy anymore from

565
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: the first half of twenty twenty one or whatever. It's

566
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 4: like been like a while since Murray was really good.

567
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: But he's been really good. He's been It's only two

568
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: games and not great defense, but he's been.

569
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: Really Like you think that the Saints is sustainable because you,

570
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: like Kubiak, is this Arizona outburst where Kyler Murray's grading

571
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: out is like one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

572
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: Again two games? Can this continue or is.

573
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: This just like, Okay, they're shocking some people early and

574
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: then the Bills adjusted in Week one and the Lions

575
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: should adjust in week two.

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Speaker 4: Our projections were lower on the Cardinals than the Saints,

577
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: so like, my priors are higher on the Saints. So

578
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: that's why I feel like the Saints is a little

579
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: bit more sustainable, but I mean, neither of them are

580
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 4: sustainable at these levels. But I am like, if you

581
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 4: watch Kyler Murray, he looks like he's got it again. Yeah,

582
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: And so I'm not don't I don't want to like

583
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 4: go on record as doubting it, like it's it's it's

584
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 4: definitely a possibility that this is for real. Yeah.

585
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: And lastly, the Kansas City Chiefs three and a half

586
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: point favorites in Atlanta. The Chiefs win thanks to Isaiah

587
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: Likely's toe being on the line in week one, and

588
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: in week two they get a fortunate fourth and sixteen

589
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: pass interference the leads to the game winner. Chiefs, in

590
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: my opinion, have not looked good at all there. I

591
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: think they've been lucky, and I kind of like them

592
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: in Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: You same, They're very average by DVOA this year. I

594
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: have them as the lowest of the two and zero teams.

595
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 4: But that's only two games, and let's we know who

596
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: the Chiefs were coming into the season, and that's more

597
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 4: important than the knowledge that we've gained over two games,

598
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: and they're better than Atlanta. I don't know this kind

599
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: of feels like one of those games where the Chiefs

600
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: a sleepwalk to a three point victory and they don't cover.

601
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: But oh, they're the better. I mean they are the better.

602
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: They are clearly the better team. I feel like I'd

603
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: rather play the money line on this one than.

604
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Speaker 3: But like we watch Fongio sit back and not blitz

605
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. I can almost guarantee you Spagnolo.

606
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: Who Will's cousins.

607
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, cousin is going to be in trouble

608
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: all day and that could lead to a pick six

609
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: or two. So yeah, I'm on the Chiefs here. I

610
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: do worry about this Pacheco loss? Or do you think

611
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: running backs don't matter as much and that's not a

612
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: significant loss.

613
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 4: I'm more of a running backs don't matter that. It's

614
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: it's more like there are a few running backs that

615
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: move the needle, and usually they because of their receiving ability,

616
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: and I don't think Pacheco is one of those. But

617
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: it's not like that. They're like, it's not like you

618
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: look at the backups for the Chiefs and you're like,

619
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: add some good guys. So there may be a drop here.

620
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Speaker 2: So you're saying you didn't grab Steel in fantasy.

621
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: Huh.

622
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 4: I didn't grab Steel in fantasy, but I picked him up.

623
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Speaker 4: You're going to see a lot of some magic Peiron.

624
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: I really surprise if there's a good amount of p running.

625
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: I thought they picked up Kareem Hunt too, and they're like, oh, yeah.

626
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: They did pick up Kareem Hunt. I don't know if

627
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 4: he'll play this week or if they'll wait till next

628
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: week on them.

629
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Speaker 3: Steel did fumble, so it's a wasted pick up. But

630
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Speaker 3: I just need to handcuff just in case, Just in case.

631
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Speaker 3: All right, Aaron chats FTN Fantasy, amazing stuff. Are you

632
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: still doing like late night shows? I remember you went

633
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: on seth Meyers.

634
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: I wish I'd love to go back on again. Just

635
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: have to get his bookers to call me man.

636
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: No, that that's all it takes.

637
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: I'm doing this.

638
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: I forgot to ask, do you do any handicapping of

639
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: like the election or any of that stuff.

640
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: No, No, NFL is my life. I don't even do

641
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: college football.

642
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 2: Hmm.

643
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: Interesting because I know we're less than two months away

644
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: from the election, and you know Nate Silver puts his

645
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: stuff out there. I just didn't know if you had

646
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: an algorithm or anything.

647
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't do anything other than NFL.

648
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: Man.

649
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's complicated. If you wanted to get

650
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: into that, you have to really throw yourself into it.

651
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's gross, all right, eron di take

652
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: it these life.

653
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: It feels a little bit. The NFL sometimes feels a

654
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: little icky because of CTE and stuff. The election feels

655
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: really icky to Ikey.

656
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Speaker 2: I would say good luck to your Patriots, but they're

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Speaker 2: All right, buddy, take it easy.

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Speaker 3: So obviously, I am a Jets fan, I have been forever,

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Speaker 3: and I usually like to avoid betting on my team

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Speaker 3: it's just too stressful. I don't need money in play

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Speaker 3: fantasy implications. I have breeze hall I it's just.

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Speaker 2: It's undue stress.

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Speaker 3: And then I know, know you guys are saying Jay too,

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Speaker 3: that's so Losory be quiet. It's just like I don't

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Speaker 3: in college football, I don't like root for a specific team.

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Speaker 3: I obviously like I'll keep one eye on JMU. I'll

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Speaker 3: keep an eye on the best team, the best quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: NBA.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, I like the Lakers, I like

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Speaker 3: Cooree Major League Baseball, one eye on the Yankees. But NFL,

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Speaker 3: it's like the Jets are the one team that like.

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Speaker 3: I try to watch every play of every game. And

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Speaker 3: it's been a while since we've been good, and this

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Speaker 3: season expectations are high. They have not looked great. They

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Speaker 3: haven't looked awful. Defensively, they looked awful, but as a team,

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Speaker 3: they did not look terrible. So as soon as this

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Speaker 3: line came out, I said, the Jets are not six

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Speaker 3: and a half point favorites over anyone. Now, churn Off,

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Speaker 3: he's a Jets guy. He likes them. In the spot,

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Speaker 3: I took the Patriots six and a half. As soon

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Speaker 3: as the line came out and I took under thirty

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Speaker 3: eight and a half. I'm currently seeing six. I expect

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Speaker 3: some game day money to float in. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: see injury reports and it's just not great for the Jets.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, the Patriots injury report is

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Speaker 3: not particularly outstanding either. The Seattle game did not go

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Speaker 3: great for them, and they have ruled out their middle linebacker,

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Speaker 3: Juwan Bentley. They ruled out alignment low alignment, so sow.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you look at what the Patriots are

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Speaker 3: trotting out there and it's like, oh, the Jets could

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Speaker 3: take advantage. But then you look at the Jets defense

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Speaker 3: and it's not the defense of last year. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: I cannot get that excited about the Jets defense, but

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Speaker 3: I know they can't stop a nosebleed. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: as what's his face? Schatz said. Their starting left tackle

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Speaker 3: is Caden Wallace, a third rounder out of Penn State

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Speaker 3: who played eleven snaps in Week two and eighteen in

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Speaker 3: Week one, and if you remove his extra point snaps,

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Speaker 3: he's basically played twenty seven snaps on the on the

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Speaker 3: offensive line.

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Speaker 2: That's it. And he's a rookie. Can the Jets take advantage?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem. I don't know that they can. And

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Speaker 3: you know, you, guys, I thought the Jets would sweep them.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were And then then the offense is

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Speaker 3: looking not great and it's like, okay, well, can Hassan

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Speaker 3: Reradik it in there?

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Speaker 2: No, there's no sign of Hassan Reddick.

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Speaker 3: So now you've got Michael Clemens, who's okay, he hasn't

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Speaker 3: done anything particularly special. Quinn Williams off to a slow

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Speaker 3: start because they're able to double team him because no

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Speaker 3: one else scares you Kin law Eh, and then will

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Speaker 3: McDonald who's had a couple splash plays, but by and large,

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Speaker 3: down to down he's not performing well, grading out as

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighth of one hundred and fourteen defensive vents.

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Speaker 3: He did have a couple of sacks against Carolina, so

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Speaker 3: he's shown well, it's just not consistent. And now you

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Speaker 3: move off CJ. Moseley, the middle linebacker's starting. Sherwood, the

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Speaker 3: young kid out of Auburn. There's just there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of If the Jets can't stop the run, the Patriots

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Speaker 3: are going to run it down their throat, and I

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Speaker 3: just I don't have overwhelming confidence the Jets can get.

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Speaker 3: Separation feels to me like a seventeen fourteen Jets. It's

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Speaker 3: twenty to seventeen Jets sixteen thirds somewhere in that neighborhood. Now, remember,

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Speaker 3: Jets special teams did block a punt last week. Patriots

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Speaker 3: special teams had a good game againt Cincinnati. The Jets

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Speaker 3: need this win. They cannot go one and two, so

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Speaker 3: not a heavy play for me. The bigger players will

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Speaker 3: be tomorrow, but let's go. Jets'll put me down officially

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Speaker 3: for seventeen thirteen. Jets win, no cover, So I'm on

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Speaker 3: the Patriots and the under back tomorrow