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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's you know, Jalen has always been a consistent

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Speaker 3: When he's filled in, he's done. I think it's been

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Speaker 3: Jalen has a place in the NFL because he is

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Speaker 3: a good pass blocker. He's competed well in pass blocking

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Speaker 3: this year with with all the guys they have over

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Speaker 3: their Russian run game is always something that he's challenged with.

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Speaker 3: Not that he doesn't like the run block or can

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Speaker 3: it's just as how he's made up his body type.

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Speaker 2: He's not. He's not the it's explosive quick or it

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Speaker 3: But but the guy's don't really He's always done a

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Speaker 3: is he's gotten even better.

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Speaker 2: He is.

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Speaker 3: He's just he's a low burned guy and sometimes you

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Speaker 3: think is he really getting it? But then all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden you realize you see steady improvement in certain areas,

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Speaker 3: and I've seen that continue.

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Speaker 1: Is that a challenge for both of your starting tackle

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Speaker 3: Run blocking Colton, Colton's a good run blocker. Colton's Colton's

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Speaker 3: a better run blocker. Colton is a I won't put

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Speaker 3: so much pride in everything he does. He gets better

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Speaker 2: The swing tackle.

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Speaker 4: If Jalen's the starting left tackle, if he had a

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Speaker 2: Well still it's still up in the air.

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Speaker 3: I mean Hubbard and uh and uh Parker are the

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Speaker 2: So they're both working hard.

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll find out when we find out healthy.

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Speaker 2: What does he at, what does he bring his off

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Speaker 3: It's funny when John started playing more in the huddle,

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Speaker 3: the guys didn't know johnas our first year with us.

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Speaker 3: They're like, man, this guy, this guy's dog out there.

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Speaker 3: This guy competes this guy if it's tough. This guy

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Speaker 2: So he adds that level.

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Speaker 3: He adds a level of toughness from the line perspective,

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Speaker 3: Last year, it's like, I remember the game since I remember,

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Speaker 5: McCaffrey Offensive Player of the Year. You know, he is

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Speaker 3: None of us are coaches, played, none of us Christian.

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Speaker 3: But if you can't get it, if two guys are

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Speaker 1: But as to say, do you think that Spencer Berger

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Speaker 2: We'll see when you get there. I mean I can't.

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Speaker 2: Know there is something too Monday night football, right is

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Speaker 2: Williams will be available week one. Have you kept in

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Speaker 3: I heard from in the off season a little bit,

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Speaker 4: Like with his with his game film, obviously, it is

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Speaker 4: Is there is there still teachable stuff that he does

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Speaker 3: like every other player, Trent just has some more elite

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Speaker 3: He is a very very intelligent kid, doesn't say a word,

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