WEBVTT - Special Guest Reveals The Truth About Sean Combs-MUST HEAR

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>So our boy Shine P Diddy comes, it's in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of trouble tonight. I have a special guess here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if y'all remember Diary of Hollywood Street King.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of the first big websites on the

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<v Speaker 1>West Coast that really spilled all the tea and all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff. My man, Jackie Jasper, guess what. I got

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<v Speaker 1>him in the building, like you can't see him because

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<v Speaker 1>he can't show his face. You know, he don't spill

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<v Speaker 1>the tea on so many people, people like you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for him, Jackie, what's a man? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I've gain't nobody looking for me. I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just ain't got no time for all that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Later on we get into all that. But we're good, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, man, I appreciate you coming on first and foremost. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with your boy? Did he? Man? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Because I know, you know the really real

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<v Speaker 1>well I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this Ben brow and for a minute, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think everybody got something to say right now about Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>But.

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<v Speaker 3>Those who knew him, we've been talking this over a

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<v Speaker 3>decade now, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember not to tax you off. I remember five

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<v Speaker 1>six years ago when me and you first started rapping.

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<v Speaker 1>You was telling me there was something coming down about

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<v Speaker 1>d and I said, man, you trip, it ain't nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with Pete Diddy.

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<v Speaker 3>We will continue, and I mean, let's let's take it

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<v Speaker 3>all the way back to our boy Tupac, who was

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<v Speaker 3>who's most likely smiling from heaven right now because everything

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<v Speaker 3>that Park said about him is actually coming to life,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And here's a dude who started off his

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<v Speaker 3>life as we would call him a fucking nerd. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>excuse my language, we call him a nerd, a freaking nerd, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I would say that why because this guy partake

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<v Speaker 3>in videos from groups like the Five Young Cannibals. He

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<v Speaker 3>was teaching Stacy Latta saw how they dance.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a good kid that went to Howard University and.

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<v Speaker 3>Found out he had the gift of gab and then

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<v Speaker 3>ran into I think the person who turned him out,

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<v Speaker 3>which was Andre Herrel, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so and he was a part of that little fraternity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think well after because Puff is

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<v Speaker 3>going to school but hanging out with Andre and them

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<v Speaker 3>on the weekends and all that. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's when he got turned out and got a job

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<v Speaker 3>right away from school as as a CEO of a

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<v Speaker 3>of a of a record company and all that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>which is crazy, you know. And from from that plateau,

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<v Speaker 3>leaving that and then getting connected with Clive Davis was

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<v Speaker 3>really when it all happened in him. Getting connected with

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<v Speaker 3>Clive was when Clive was connecting l A.

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<v Speaker 2>Mead and and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think at that time of this thing that

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<v Speaker 3>we call hip hop, the man akad, the industry wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to change the language of the game because prior to

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<v Speaker 3>Puffy and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>We was on some public enemy and w a type phase.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we were we were belling, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>were belling a lot, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had to calm down the noise.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, Clive gave Puffy a bag, gave On

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<v Speaker 3>Andia Heral and baby I mean Ellie Reid and babyface

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<v Speaker 3>bag and we started to see the music changing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, let me ask you a question, Jackie real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>because you brought La read up. I me and you

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<v Speaker 1>both know how La Reid get down without saying it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I'm mentioning the characters to show you

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<v Speaker 3>the cast members, you know, so we're kind of putting

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<v Speaker 3>the cast members and how people fit it in and

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<v Speaker 3>how they connected, you know. And when bad Boy came

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<v Speaker 3>to life, I mean, this guy was in his early twenties,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting a job of probably a man who

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<v Speaker 3>was the industry for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>He just got in there like that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>You call a plant, you know what I'm saying, That's

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<v Speaker 3>what you call the street planned. Yeah, and his motive

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<v Speaker 3>was to have the music that we were doing softened,

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<v Speaker 3>and he softened it by having his rappers rap above

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<v Speaker 3>Fasadi and the girls started liking it, and before you

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<v Speaker 3>know it, it was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>So the music was coming so wishy washy, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>When he got into the game, but no one really

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<v Speaker 3>took notice. Everyone partake in it because we're coming into

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<v Speaker 3>it like a bling eerr you know, but everybody forgot that.

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<v Speaker 2>This dude is really a plant and always was a plant.

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<v Speaker 3>He got from this whole connecting with.

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<v Speaker 2>Craig Mack, who.

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<v Speaker 3>Is probably his first head record crag Macs, who he.

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<v Speaker 1>Just found out. His cause of death, you know, was

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<v Speaker 1>the virus, you know. Shout out to Craig mac rest

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<v Speaker 1>in peace. That's just really interesting them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and let's say Craig was the first

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<v Speaker 2>to jump off on bad Boy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, then we had you know, I mean Total

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't there, but I think Total came after.

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<v Speaker 2>Biggie, right, and Biggie came through.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we're looking at one and two that was

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<v Speaker 3>on the label. They're not here with us anymore. Irp

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<v Speaker 3>the boat gentlemen, right sir. Both of them was jumping

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<v Speaker 3>out the window on Buffy. Both of them wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be gone, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So let me ask you this. So Biggie had

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<v Speaker 1>plans on it. And I heard this from the homie

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<v Speaker 1>gene deal. Shout out the gene you have out to

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<v Speaker 1>him this morning. He told me that Biggie had plans

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<v Speaker 1>on leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, because I remember Biggie was messing with un

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<v Speaker 3>and all those cats over there. Right, So Biggie and

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<v Speaker 3>how plans to leave, you know, And then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we all know what happened to him. So that's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole different thing. We're just breaking down how how a

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<v Speaker 3>nerd became so violent criminal?

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<v Speaker 2>Criminal?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you know, I know back then, his orientation

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really a big thing. And it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff coming to likes, you know, about him doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of really committing a lot of atrocities, cameras in

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<v Speaker 1>every room of his house and had people feel we

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<v Speaker 1>use that as and you told me he would use

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<v Speaker 1>that as leverage against people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm coming back to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Should should not and said, this was the guy who

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<v Speaker 3>was dancing all up in people's videos. So this was

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<v Speaker 3>this was a happy, go lucky person for five minutes

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<v Speaker 3>before he became so psychotic, right, And I think this

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<v Speaker 3>all started out in the late nineties, you know, after

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<v Speaker 3>Biggie's passing a little before, right, a little before he

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<v Speaker 3>was going crazy. But he never went crazy till probably

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<v Speaker 3>late nineties when he started eating ecstasy like kids eat vitamins,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And when he got into that drug is when.

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<v Speaker 2>He went sex crazy, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think he was doing this for a minute

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<v Speaker 3>without recording it, and then he started to record device

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<v Speaker 3>for or leverage amongst others who were on camera partaking

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<v Speaker 3>in his debauchery that he created, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was like making porn films without making box covers and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff at the valley. He was just making these things

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<v Speaker 3>for his personal blackmailing use and probably to watch privately

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<v Speaker 3>at himself. So he was most likely a warrior, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was the type of guy who prior from

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<v Speaker 3>the camera would have these type of sexual festivity festivities

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<v Speaker 3>going on, but he'd be type peeking and looking at it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So he was more he

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<v Speaker 3>was more director of dirt, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And in order to keep such a fueled, sick mind going,

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<v Speaker 4>he added more different things to it.

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<v Speaker 2>He added drugs, he added fear, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was all about power, you know what they say.

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<v Speaker 1>They found a thousand bottles of baby oil at his house,

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<v Speaker 1>and guns and all the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I mean, I think what they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you about having the thousand baby oils and

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<v Speaker 3>the thousand bottles of lube. I think what they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to let us know is that this was like a

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<v Speaker 3>porn set, you know. And by having all the ars

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff that they spoke about his laying as knowing

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<v Speaker 3>that hey, this guy was violent at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>right and and bye, by giving him no bail.

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<v Speaker 2>Shows that he's a flight risk, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they took his passports, they said in April,

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<v Speaker 3>have to turn in his passports or something like that

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<v Speaker 3>in April.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so he couldn't fly out.

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<v Speaker 3>But if this is true, wasn't he just in Grenada

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<v Speaker 3>when they went down there and got him or something?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>If they had the passport in April, I believe in

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<v Speaker 3>the summer he went down to the Grenada or something

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<v Speaker 3>in the Caribbean knowledge, because that's when that's when the

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<v Speaker 3>his drug dealer got busted, the white dude right around

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<v Speaker 3>that time, right, So that means he don't care if

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<v Speaker 3>you got my passport or nothing. He's still gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>what he needed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Fly You don't care, but rule. So it seems like.

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<v Speaker 3>He makes his own law. He's the law, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>the order. You know, he calls the shots, and the

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<v Speaker 3>government had to go down there and get him.

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<v Speaker 1>Not no more. They made sure that they made sure

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<v Speaker 1>that they made themselves clear with that. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>behind bars right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And and and him not having his Barbara to

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<v Speaker 3>die his hair and the dermatologists to have his skin

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<v Speaker 3>all looking cool like puffy, him behind bars in the

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<v Speaker 3>next two weeks, you're gonna see a whole different man.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're gonna embarrass him. You know what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>about the embarrassment. He got his house out here in

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<v Speaker 3>La out there in Calabasis.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe he got that up for sale.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So I think she's selling that to pay some

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<v Speaker 3>lawyers off and all that put his mama's house up

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<v Speaker 3>part of the fifty million that he was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>put out there for bail. And they canceled that. Told him,

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<v Speaker 3>now now you ain't catching bail.

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<v Speaker 1>And know so well why you think that? You think

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<v Speaker 1>they believe? You said, they believe he's a flight risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I just told you.

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<v Speaker 3>They took his They took his passport in April, and

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<v Speaker 3>just this time in the summer when his his drug dealer,

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<v Speaker 3>the white dude got bushed in there was in Grenada. Said,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he couldn't he left the country on his

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<v Speaker 3>plane without without paperwork, you did, know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So he told he showed them that I don't listen

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<v Speaker 3>to the law.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Now we were tall earlier, right, how many other people

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<v Speaker 1>you think he goes throwing the grease with him. How

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<v Speaker 1>many other people is involved in this? Any names that

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<v Speaker 1>we may know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's it's it's so many names.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, so many different people, right, I mean, right

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<v Speaker 3>now we can throw names.

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<v Speaker 2>And speculation people. I mean, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Reading people talking about Cuba Good and Junior was there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from from this is coming from the case,

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<v Speaker 3>from that, that fact that lossuit that uh something Rod

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<v Speaker 3>whatever his name is, whatever the for.

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<v Speaker 1>But I you know what, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>buy everything that producer talk about, because he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that he was with Puffy for a year and did

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<v Speaker 1>get conversated. I think he made a choice to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with Puffy. Now he's just trying to get him

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<v Speaker 1>some bread.

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<v Speaker 2>He No, you could be wrong and you could be right.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems like he's trying to eat at two sides of

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<v Speaker 2>the table. But he did tell us, you know, some.

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<v Speaker 3>Information that that Cuba getting was sent by Puffy to

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<v Speaker 3>to to get at him. So he treated that producer

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<v Speaker 3>fellow like he was an escort.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So if Puffy's gonna solicit you, that means he already

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<v Speaker 3>had you. He did what I'm saying, he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>solicit you without having you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Madam selling selling one of her cortisans without knowing what

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<v Speaker 3>her cartisan does, or pimp having a chick on the

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<v Speaker 3>street and he doesn't know what she does. So Puffy

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<v Speaker 3>had to knew what this guy was all about in

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<v Speaker 3>order to solicit him to Cuba Gooding Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. So, I mean that was

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<v Speaker 2>one name on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we got Cuba Gooding Junior, we got Stevie Jaying

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<v Speaker 1>I heard stuff about it before all this stuff came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve J. Looked like a perverb. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>gottle look to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stev J definitely is a part of the whole

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<v Speaker 3>initiation thing. According to that producer Fella whatever his name was,

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<v Speaker 3>that Puffy was showing him reels and tape and letting

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<v Speaker 3>him know, this is all part of the industry. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>these freaking officers is a part of the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, Stevie J's doing it, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And and Stevie J's definitely a part of this. And

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<v Speaker 3>we heard when they were reading out the charges on

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<v Speaker 3>CNN today they said it wasn't just Puffy.

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<v Speaker 2>They believed he had helped Bush and the ablers. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it was a crew.

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<v Speaker 3>People were setting up these hotel rooms, some people was

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<v Speaker 3>getting the drugs, people were cleaning up these hotel rooms

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<v Speaker 3>after the parties, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>M So they had the most disgusting job, and the

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<v Speaker 1>the whole crew to clean up crew had the most

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<v Speaker 1>distesting job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it seems like.

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<v Speaker 3>The police knows what that They got the bread crumbs,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're making the loaf of bread right now, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. So they know what it is,

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<v Speaker 3>or they wouldn't have came and captured them and threw

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<v Speaker 3>them in the tank. They know what, they know what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel h So as far as your boy loosing grains,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people in the music, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of executives, right you got loosing grains. And I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>tripping out that Kevin Lows just quit three hundred to day,

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<v Speaker 1>just step down in the You know, it could be timing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I already had a little bit to do with

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<v Speaker 1>this too. I already had his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>In the pot too.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who didn't go to Puffy parties is a

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<v Speaker 3>question you got asked, who didn't go to those white parties?

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Remember he had the all white parties, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>before before this, Reuben Fella started doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Puffy's been doing this in the nineties. And you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>ask yourself how many people attended these all white parties.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's Kevin Lownes there, Yeah, Kevin Lowles had

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<v Speaker 3>to be bro Ellie Reid was a part of the crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we all know how these do. See most

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<v Speaker 1>of these dudes is married man, but them women are

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more than beards.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't nothing more than that. I mean, you heard what

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<v Speaker 3>Puffy said. Puffy said, this is a part of the industry,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 3>In his mind and it's a part of the industry. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't go out there and paint the industry with

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<v Speaker 3>a broad brush and said and and think that everything

0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Puffy said is true. He's just saying this to turn

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<v Speaker 3>out the person that he's trying to turn out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So he's telling his turnout.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody's doing this. This is what it is. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. Take these pills and you'll feel

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<v Speaker 2>good in half an hour you want to join us.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, And that's what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you asked me earlier, what names are there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? We can ask Usher about this.

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<v Speaker 3>We can ask Justin Beaver, you know, we can, we can,

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<v Speaker 3>we can, we can ask Jamaican the pre Were.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever there?

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<v Speaker 1>Pwn?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know because Delli was over there. Remember Nelly

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<v Speaker 2>was a model, right mhm. I gotta ask Nelly what

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<v Speaker 2>is this? Nelly? You know, did you see anything? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you go ask a lot of people, did you see anything?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of soft stuff. But you know,

0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 1>people usually keep their mouth shut about stuff. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of craziness that goes on, man. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that, man, because that's why you know, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of when you had diarya for Hollywood Street King, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a lot of stuff going on over there. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he was exposing a whole lot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean from that time, ain't nothing really changed.

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:50.959
<v Speaker 3>It's just validating what we put out twenty years ago,

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:56.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, and people thought we was putting out some

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<v Speaker 3>crazy stuff or just hating, but it wasn't hate. It

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<v Speaker 3>is the more ridiculous the story sounds, the more truth

0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 3>it is, you know, I mean, and these guys are

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<v Speaker 3>doing some real Wait till people really here about Puffy and.

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<v Speaker 2>How ridiculous this guy really is because.

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<v Speaker 3>You got somebody who's flying high, flying high on some

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<v Speaker 3>heavy hallucination drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it sounds like, you know a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>than what you're letting on. Man, go ahead, man and

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<v Speaker 1>spill it. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean he's tripping.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's got he's got special k on the tables.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got cocaine, he's got ecstasy, he's got some Molly's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he got he got a whole boy, he

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<v Speaker 3>got tootsies, he got anything out there.

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<v Speaker 5>He's he's he's he's puffy vv Puffy Puffy cvs. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>he's got his own pharmacy happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you gotta remember he's got he's flying this

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<v Speaker 3>dope from from state to state on his private plane,

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<v Speaker 3>right he had.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a major crime in itself because now he

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<v Speaker 1>make it indictments from other places once you cross state lines,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you if I fly from California and I

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<v Speaker 1>fly over these states, I fly over New Mexico, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>They can all bring up charges. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>True? You crossing state lines and he's flying this dope.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're speaking of what we know, so we're

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<v Speaker 3>not pulling stuff from out of fit air.

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<v Speaker 2>We're speaking of young.

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<v Speaker 3>Mommy who just a few months back this year, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stories came up by her transporting dope on Puffy's aircraft

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<v Speaker 3>to Puffy, you know, right, so she's gonna have something

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<v Speaker 3>to say, right, I mean, the DA, the d A

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<v Speaker 3>is not gonna throw a man who's damn it, who's

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<v Speaker 3>a billionaire in the tank unless they got something on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and some stuff, you know, because I know we

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<v Speaker 1>heard about and you know what really tricks me out, man,

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And you told me all this stuff a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not gonna lie. I gotta apologize, jack Y.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't believe you told me he put us in

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. Man, I said, no, No, Man, be real, man, Usher,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to hit them notes a certain kind

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<v Speaker 1>of way. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what happened was with him and and and and.

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<v Speaker 2>And Usher was I believe Usher.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to stay with him for like about a

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<v Speaker 3>year to groom him into being an artist. Who was

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<v Speaker 3>sent to to Puffy from I believe elie Red and

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:05.479
<v Speaker 3>Puffy had to turn this young teenage boy into an artist.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm not making this up. Usher said that Puffy

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<v Speaker 3>took him to an orgy when he was underage. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Where was Usher's parents?

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Where was his mama at? Where was his you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't, I don't never hear nothing about

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Ush's father, But where was his mama at?

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<v Speaker 2>So those are questions are going to be asked, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So he had these these these he had, he had

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<v Speaker 2>that he had that dude as a as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>He did the same with Justin Bieber.

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 3>Justin Bieber had to spend some time with him because

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.439
<v Speaker 3>he had to groom Justin Bieber into an artist.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 3>And I mean it's like putting your daughter in the

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<v Speaker 3>hands of Harvey Weinstein.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's that You've given Justin Beaver to Puffy. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what one thing that will say outside

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, Puffy did do his thing with them

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.199
<v Speaker 1>kids musically and stuff. He did get him right, you know.

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>So he did his job when he came to there.

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>But he did his job and then something you know,

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>He's a predator man, you know, seeing right now, he

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of predatory behavior, and.

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 2>And he had a lot of connects because he was promising.

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 3>These these these entertainers, Hey, I can get you a

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Grammy if you do.

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<v Speaker 2>X, Y and Z for me sexually.

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 3>You know. So it shows he had connects to the

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 3>award shows as well.

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Now as far as all these other people it's involved.

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, they took hit, you know, the Weininstein cat

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<v Speaker 1>down a while ago. They've taken him down. How many

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>people you think? How many more people you.

0:25:56.760 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 2>Think out there regarding to to Puffy your watch.

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Team, regardless of just these just devis.

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 3>I think I think the industry is full of them,

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 3>a lot of copycats.

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I think. Yeah, Puffy wasn't the first guy to do this.

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:22.439
<v Speaker 3>He saw this happening and he really to himself, maybe

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 3>put his own flavor into his madness. But he saw

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 3>this madness elsewhere, you know what I'm saying. So, how

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 3>many Puffies are there? I mean, it's again of them.

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, we got we we got we got this. Uh,

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>who's this? Who's this? Who's this guy who makes music

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>for Katie Perry?

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 3>And this guy doctor Luke whatever his name is, we

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 3>got we got Keisha calling him out, you know, And

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I think you know what, I think what happens is, see.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>Is allowed to do what he probably still doing for

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 3>the factor is that he's still making music.

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 2>What we saw in R. Kelly. When R.

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Kelly couldn't make music anymore, they came and got him.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's crazy, you know what I'm gonna talk about that, man.

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he's he's not He's not seeing the

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 3>sun for a minute.

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>You're the way we see it.

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think Puffy's downfall was when he couldn't create

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 3>product anymore. For the man, he was useless now, you know.

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 3>And he got so ahead of himself as a useless

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 3>idiot that when he tried to sue the liquor company

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>and them cats from France, and that's when.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 2>They all hit the fan.

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<v Speaker 6>You did what I'm saying, Yeah, you one hundred percent right.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think somebody dropped the dime on Puff too.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, he was doing too much. You know, you're doing

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>too much. I mean, we got the cat out here,

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 3>remember the family we used to own all the round

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 3>supermarkets out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Ron burkele mm hmmm, that was people would say.

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 3>People would say allegedly that was Puffy's sugar daddy, you know.

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Because you know, I've been in the music industry man,

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and Puff made a lot of money. Like Puff was

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a big I believe Puff was a big in there. Yeah,

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>he had a lot before. Dude who didn't put out

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>no music in a long time.

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>And once you're not putting out music, you're not really

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>worth it anymore. And you brought up Lucci and Gray

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Jen it's funny because his son it's just like he's

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 3>passing the torch onto his son.

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.959
<v Speaker 2>His son now runs warning music and all that.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you notice the time and all this though. Man,

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like everybody kind of clearing themself up. Loosen grains

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>lead the country. Man.

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's kind of like cleaning up their act, right because

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 3>they know how far is gonna go.

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Suffy about to tell Puffy about to start singing, man,

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Puffy ain't trying to do all that time. Man, he

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>goes start sniching.

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 3>So then the question we got to ask, is Puffy

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 3>a man wanted dead?

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, because they certainly don't want them alive.

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>That's sure. A man's some powerful people. When you start

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about the loosing granges of the world, Man, there

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>all these other people, man, Clive, these people got made

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>paper Man, And.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Clive was involved. I think Clive actually

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 3>was a part of throwing him under the bus.

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Believe so.

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you know, allegedly there's rumor that Clive was

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 3>the one that helped paid for Cassie's lawyers.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, that would make sense. But why do you

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>think Clive would have beef against Puff? Because he gave

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>put a whole bunch of money.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 3>He got ahead of himself. He forgot who made him.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 3>These plants. Plants are very crazy, you know, like plants

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 3>lose their mind. They forgot that there were a plant

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 3>like Puffy. Actually, in his mind, believes that without him, there.

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Would have been no Mary J. Blige, there had been

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 2>no Biggie Smalls. There would have been he did what

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, uh like, there would have been no New

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 2>York in the nineties, you know.

0:30:58.360 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>So he started doing too much.

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he started thinking, I made New York, you know,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 3>I made all this ship. Excuse my language, I made

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>all of this, you know. And I think that's when

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 3>he went crazy, you know, with narcissism fueled by chemical dope.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 3>It just took him to the edge, you know. I mean,

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 3>here's a guy who wants to blow up kick cutt

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 3>his truck.

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit. Puff was

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>doing a whole lot of gangster stuff. Man, he was

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>doing a whole lot of trying to you know, he

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>putting mafia style hit some people.

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>He hanged. He hanging while they out the window, you

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 2>know the window. Yeah, because while they.

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Was doing a track with Cassie and they said, Wally

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 3>and Wiley and them in the studio, and all of

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, Puffy barged in with his gang, you know,

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>rushed while they put the smack store them and hung

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>them out the window and all that by the ankles.

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 3>You know. So, I mean, this is all allegedly that's

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 3>being set, you know what I'm saying. So we're saying

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 3>to ourselves, this guy's power hungry, he's losing it.

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Regard him just recently on the internet that.

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 3>He was wilding out at a party with with with

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 3>everybody who broke the store. I think it was Punch

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 3>from TV.

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>He broke the story. You know, Punch was supposed to

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>be on here with me, man, I'm not there.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Punks man saying that. You know, so he was crazy.

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 3>He had one of the jay Z's men ended up,

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, putting the pieces on Jay Cole because Puffy

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 3>had a disagreement with Jake Cole, you know. And then

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 3>he punching Drake and the stomach. Puffy punching Drake and

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 3>the stomach.

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Over a beat. I mean, he was going, he was

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>he was showing out. You know, he's knocking up these

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>little kids.

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 3>He's beating these because come on, draking these catches, the

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 3>little kids to Puffy.

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 2>You do what I'm saying, right, Because Puffy been in

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 2>this game since Heavy D man, you know now.

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>A long time.

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, before Casey and Joe. He was around

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 3>with father and c man. You know what I'm saying, right.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Four years old though, Man, you know, Puffy ain't no

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>spring chicken.

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, this is a cat who's been doing

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot and then his wife passed away, kim porter,

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 3>and that was kind of.

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Under mysterious circumstances, though, wouldn't you say?

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not saying nothing. I'm just saying what

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 3>people are saying. I'm saying. Donald Trump Junior. Don Junior

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 3>said that his wife at the time used to model

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 3>with Kim Porter, and Kim used to call her and

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>tell her that she's living in a nightmare with this man.

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 3>And if anything happens to me.

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 2>It's this man, you know.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't say that. It's Don Junior talking this,

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying.

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, it looks like.

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Democrat Republican both don't like this guy. This guy was

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 3>terrorizing anybody. Seems like he's like the Black Epstein of

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:03.280
<v Speaker 3>the music business.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it was that cat Puff had his own

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>island too, didn't.

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah down starling down in Miami. I sear he did

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 3>all these ridiculous stunts.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 6>But that's ironic. It was called for a reason for

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 6>a reason, man. You know, he hung out with Rick Ross.

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 6>Rick Ross gotta have some stuff to say about this.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 6>You know that was Rick's buddy.

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 3>Man. What hey, you know, I'm not, according according to

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Them, to catch with BFF. So I'm not pulling this

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 2>out of sitting there. I'm just.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm just parroting what people already put out

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 3>there to put it all together to make a body

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 3>of work.

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, yeah, Hey, so I want

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.240
<v Speaker 1>to go back a little bit, man, because this puffy stuff.

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we go keep hearing stuff as days come out. Man,

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I think we gonna start seeing a lot of stuff

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>pop up. Back in the day, Man, you broke a

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff. You was one of the first people

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk about one of my favorite rappers. Man, and

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a halfway don't want to say it, my

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>boy bus a Bus.

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Now, I didn't even want to get into all that,

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 3>but I think he's gonna be another name that's gonna

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 3>be mentioning that puffy party. Yeah, regarding to Bus, I mean.

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't want to say it, man, you might as well.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Go to say it, man, I mean, I really want

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 3>to get into all that regurgitate things from the past.

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>But but a lot of these people like it might

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>not have heard that though, Man, you know, because it

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>was something that came out a few months ago. And

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I laughed, I said, Man, my guys, Jack he told

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>me about that too. Man. I don't want to believe it, man,

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>but it gotta be true.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 3>You know. I mean said, I really don't want to

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 3>go there, but you know, back in the day, you know,

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 3>if he tried to knock on me like I was

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 3>a check, you know what I'm saying, And I was

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.320
<v Speaker 3>like excusing, this was out of his mind.

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 3>And that's how bold these cats, they feeling abowered that

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 3>they could actually you know, here I am. You know,

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, I'm Playboy and all that. So I'm

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 3>looking at chicks and all that. I'm doing what I

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 3>gotta do. We're running game, you know. Yeah, we know

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 3>how to run game because we're in the nineties, so

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 3>there's a whole lot of games going on with the

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 3>girls and all that. You know. Yeah, these cats, these

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>cats aren't even there. They're learn to like checking.

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 2>On dudes and all that. You're like, Yo, she's fool crazy.

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm out here wearing for sat you, getting my hair

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 3>dripped and all that for the checks Like this dude's

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 3>taking that personal, like.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 2>You say, for you, this is for these girls.

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Like man, that's crazy, man, And that's crazy because I know. Now,

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this, when the whole when you

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>broke that story about Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen, I'm starting

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to forgive me that that was an era, so I'm

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>coming trying to sue me the whole thing about Charlie Sheen.

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Did you receive any threats?

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Not really?

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that that was pretty cool, you know.

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Put it this way.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, when you when you're breaking stories like that

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 3>or you're getting information like that, I don't know if

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 3>you're a blogger anymore. At that time point, you're you're

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 3>you're like a journalist because you're getting paid not to

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 3>write everything that, you know, you know what I'm saying,

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 3>because you're becoming so informed of what's cracking out there,

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 3>people's legal teams are getting at you.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>To give you, to give you cash to yeah, to.

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Direct your narrative of of of what's coming out your mouth.

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're not saying that because there's so many

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>other stories man that we can go into. But I

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>don't even want to go in through some of this stuff.

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to believe, you.

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Know, I mean, it's really I mean, as I said,

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:56.879
<v Speaker 3>we spoke about Puffy decade to go and here it

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:58.240
<v Speaker 3>is real life.

0:39:58.600 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:05.959
<v Speaker 3>Uh, people didn't believe nothing back then, but they asked,

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 3>they got asked themselves.

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Why did they not see it?

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 3>You know, Like I'm not mad because Puffy never got

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 3>nothing out of my pocket. You know, it's not like

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 3>I took money out and gave Puffy or sponsored any

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 3>of his crazy clothing line. I ain't never won, no,

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Sean John, you know what I'm saying, Like I never

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:39.760
<v Speaker 3>fed his machine, you know, but a lot of people did.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 3>And when you know something is wrong, you're not supposed

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 3>to feed it. A lot of these people.

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 2>They kind of knew someone was wrong, but they didn't care.

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 3>So these a lot of people are more so enablers

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 3>when they look at themselves.

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people is dancing in the clubs too,

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 3>to the Benjamin.

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Bad boy has some dope records. Man, you can't. Can't

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that man?

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>But got the time Tupac already told you about him.

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>So how you going to be loving park.

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 3>And having a glass in your hand dancing to the Benjamin?

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>You got? Yeah? Well, you know what Pak said, This

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 1>man Puffy getting like to hide the fact he did

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>some stuff that he did sleep ryding for that you

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>know a long time ago.

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, I heard a lot of this stuff I

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>heard a long time ago. Like you said, Man, it's

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>all kind of like regurgitated at this point. But it's

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a trip when it all comes to fruition and it's like, man,

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 1>people really getting indicted for all this stuff now.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And and it's gonna get bigger because there's some

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 3>real names. I mean, you got models, you gonna have athletes,

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have rappers, you're gonna have singers, you're gonna

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:13.839
<v Speaker 3>have policy.

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a big name that's confirmed that you

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>know about.

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we we we spoke on names already. Of

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 3>of all what we have mentioned, is there any more

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:28.479
<v Speaker 3>names to come out?

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I think in due time, so many names are gonna

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 2>come out. It's gonna be ridiculous.

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, got to sit up here and just pull

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 3>names out of the hat. Won't be justice to to

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people. But cool. But what you can

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:50.240
<v Speaker 3>say is that the West Coast is so clean right now?

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, you know what I'm saying, because you're not

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 3>gonna hear about dre and this foolery.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I'll go to hear about snooping, this foolery. You know

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you're not, you know, I mean out of the East

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 2>fifties really clean to fifty, got no dirt on them,

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>But I know he's laughing now though he laughed, you.

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:22.439
<v Speaker 3>Know, we gotta ask, you gotta we gotta ask. Did

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Dodds go to Puffy parties?

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, we gotta hope no.

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Man, now, it ain't going to no Puffy party. I

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>rebut that I rebut that I hope now, but not

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>none of the parties. Man, Now, it's one of my favorites.

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Man, I hope you didn't go.

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Man, But but but you know what you could attend

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 3>but not part Take?

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what, and it's one thing that people

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you could you.

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Could attend but not part Take. Yeah, I'm saying, but.

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you. Let me ask you this, Jackie.

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 1>You know what's a trip? Man? People forget stuff, right?

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 1>You know who Puffy's favorite rapper was for a minute

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>over the who was writing all the songs from? And

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>who you know? Came up? Yeah, you know Mace's doing

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>this thing right now with Cam. Shut out to Mace,

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>but we can't forget man. And not too long ago

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>he cut down. He got caught down in HL doing

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>some things, you know, and.

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean not speaking about nothing, but with Mason.

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Cam had a beef I think right twenty fourteen or

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 3>fifteen round there, these guys were beefing it they both

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 3>had dish records out on each other.

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Cam kind of.

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Exposed May's with Puffy saying when he went over to

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Mason's body, saw dildos in the sink and all that.

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 3>You know, Just once again, I am not making this up.

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, this fact, man, that is

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:58.879
<v Speaker 3>all true. I'm parroting what.

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Cam set. You see what I'm saying, right.

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 3>So, I think what Puffy was using his platform for

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 3>was actually to make some to of course, make make

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 3>money off selling records, of course, to get some awards.

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Of course, to keep the ads and brands going. Of

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 3>course that was all included, you know. But at the

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 3>same time, his vices was included. You know, his vices

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 3>was what he was into.

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 2>You know. Is he a bisexual?

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, you know.

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>So.

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's so much to talk, I mean, so

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 3>much to get into, you know, so much.

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, man, the thing that's crazy about

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 1>this man. You know, when you start hearing the names

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like Bishop td Jakes and these names, man, it makes

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>you really shake your head. Man, if you don't want

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 1>to believe Stephan, like you said, it wouldn't be fair

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.400
<v Speaker 1>just to go calling people out, man, what it is,

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>what it is.

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I totally agree with you.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>We're hearing.

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>TD Jake's names been mentioned for a minute. We're hearing it.

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's gonna happen.

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Now everything's gonna come to light, you know, wasn't the

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 3>dog's gonna start shining? You know, it's gonna come out.

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 3>And who is the kid from up Oakland? That that

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 3>was Dayton kim Porter and he died.

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I forgot his name passed my mind.

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Kid from Oakland? That was Dayton kim Porter.

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 2>No Oakland and kim Port.

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that one.

0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Jackly hold on m h mm hmm.

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 7>H trying to see, trying to think, you know, I

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm talking about to you know, I know

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 7>what I'm talking about.

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Because I know Diddy beat a whole bunch of people

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>up behind kim Porter.

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's that was no joke.

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 3>I forgot to catch the name, man, I forget, But

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 3>we we catch it next time. Somebody in the comedy

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:40.280
<v Speaker 3>section probably you know what I'm talking about.

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what though, man, But Puff did a

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff, you know, Puff beat up Shakir Stewart Man.

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Not I'm talking about.

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Art you know what, man, I'm gonna say this man,

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Shake Stewart was a cool dude, man, but I think

0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Puff had some stuff on him.

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a questionable death.

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:09.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's very questionable because I don't think Secure

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't have no reason to commit no suicide.

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Man, when you die with a question mark, it's normally

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 3>overdose or suicide, right, because Clay's case will be closed

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 3>right away.

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 3>So when we look at suspicious death Seal, Michael Jackson overdose,

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Prince overdose.

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, let's let's talk about that real quick, man,

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna tell you and this is kind of

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 1>going off this off the subject people, but I want

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Whitney Houston real quick, right, overdose, overdose,

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, and I believe even Prince, they

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>all had one person in common. They had one person

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in coming. And even this dude got something to do

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>with O Jay. So when you start talking about some

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>serial killer like stuff, man, it's one dude. Can I

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 1>say his first name?

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you can say his first name?

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, they can't see your face, nigga,

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>So you say his first name.

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 3>His real name, was Raffles van Exell. And we have

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 3>a guy like just who's connected to three of our

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 3>most favorite and celebrated icons, Michael Whitney, Prince, and.

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 2>He was around.

0:49:54.960 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Through everyone's falling in life, like when they're about to

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:04.280
<v Speaker 3>wild out and spiral out of control.

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 2>He was there. You know. He was like the merchant

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>of death, you know. But that's a whole other character,

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Character for real man, because he was on some medieval stuff. Almost.

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's on some some next level type issue. You

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 2>know that the stuff that we're talking about regarding.

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Parfer is more of an Epstein type of a takedown.

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, it didn't it ain't Weinstein, because Weinstein was

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 3>just a perverb, you know.

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cat man, you know, it's like when you start

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.799
<v Speaker 1>getting all these people and then check this out, he

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>winds up getting all the Prince's money, winds up being

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Princes Venice, Visiary Prince.

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 2>You by talking about Raffles, Yeah yeah, well yeah, but they.

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Just I just thought about that man and sister and

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 1>family don't get them. But it's a dude that comes

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 1>from out of nowhere that he just met a few

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:09.839
<v Speaker 1>years go wind up getting all the money.

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Well what happened.

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Is I believe to make a long story short regarding that,

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 3>because that's that there's a whole, complete, different storyline and chapter.

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Raffles excellent. What we're talking about is a dude who.

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:36.399
<v Speaker 3>Flew out, I think, to Missouri somewhere like that, him

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 3>and his lawyer to meet Prince's half brother, Alfred Jackson.

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 3>They met Alfred. Alfred the next day died of a

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 3>heroin overdose and placed took his name off the well

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:04.839
<v Speaker 3>and Raffles ran xwell to receive his share of the

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 3>will from his deceased brother Prince. And that's how Raffle

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 3>got into Prince as well. Yeah, it's I mean, once again,

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not making this up. It's on court doc.

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Man. This is all all facts right here. Man. It's like, man,

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Man? Can I ask you a question? Man?

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You know we're about to get out of here in a

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Man. Shout out to everybody, man who's been

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 1>rocking with us, man for this past we've been here

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>almost an how we got us a few more minutes?

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Man, I can't see.

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm blind as hell. So when y'all think i'm sleep, man,

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it's because my eyes. I'm blind. I can't see I

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>be looking at this stuff, man, all of this stuff,

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:46.359
<v Speaker 1>and this dude ain't been in to jail. Man. You're

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about Whitney Houston, you talk about Prince, about Michael

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Jackson and mark me. If I'm like, tell me if

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, even Whitney's kids.

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean yeah.

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 3>He was connected too to Bobby Christina and Bobby Christina's

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 3>boyfriend at the time, Nick Gordon, which both are no

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 3>longer with us. EVA rip to both. I told you

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:16.720
<v Speaker 3>you're this character that we're talking to. And the chapter

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:20.399
<v Speaker 3>that you're opening is titled Merchant of Death, and that's

0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 3>a whole nother story.

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about this. We're gonna start doing this

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.839
<v Speaker 1>every week. Got told my boy, because I'm gonna tell

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 1>y'all this Jackie is responsible for all the bs y'all

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>see today. I don't know if y'all ever looked at

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Diary of a Hollywood Street King of the Webbs, the

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 1>blog that was out there, but he broke news on

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 1>air everybody, and I swear y'all they didn't get to

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>see half the good stuff because people contact the shoes,

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know pretty much. They said, man, we got this

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>for you if you don't talk about it, you know,

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 1>because it was true, so they couldn't sue you about it, right.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 3>No, Because at that time the internet was the wild

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 3>wild West.

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 3>Now they kind of got a grip on it, you know,

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 3>because now they got troll farms to come in and

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 3>try to debunk real stories, you know and throw you off.

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, so they got a lot of things going

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 3>on back. I mean, I started blogging in two thousand

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:31.720
<v Speaker 3>and eight, man. You know when I started blogging, media

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 3>takeouts was talking about Beyonce matching her person or shoes.

0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 3>That was their big story, you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 3>became in this game with a band like telling you

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 3>what people just having for breakfast and.

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Because she was one of the first people and correct

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. Maybe tell me if I'm talking

0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 1>too much. You had one of the you had one

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of the one of them girls that everybody messing with.

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 1>You had their mama sending you information.

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean, everybody was. I had so much information

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 3>coming in. I I just couldn't keep up with them

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 3>with the drops, you know, because I was running the

0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 3>only site that would publish anything that was real because

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:32.920
<v Speaker 3>everybody else was really a fan, you know, and I

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a fan of nothing because I'm coming from the industry.

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 3>So nowadays that's all changed. But I wasn't really playing

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:47.840
<v Speaker 3>all that. I was just getting all these getting all these.

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 2>Drops, you know.

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 3>And I was paying for the drops too. So they

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:56.200
<v Speaker 3>hit me with some drops. I'll get over the Western

0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Union whatever, because we didn't have cash shop and all

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 3>that back then, you know, And you get out Western Union,

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:07.400
<v Speaker 3>send them some money in once. As you're wenting up

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 3>the streets, they keep coming at you. You know, they're

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 3>telling me what's going on in real time? Three him

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.359
<v Speaker 3>in the morning, and we ho you know.

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I just saw so and so pulled through, you know,

0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 2>get out of here, you know what I'm saying.

0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but before we go, man, one, what's the biggest

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:30.319
<v Speaker 1>story you ever broke over there?

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest one was Charlie Sheen, you know, telling,

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, telling, telling the world that he was infecting

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 3>people with HIV. And I think the second one is

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:43.839
<v Speaker 3>what really got me in trouble, which was the Peter

0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Niguard story, of which reminds me so much of the

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Puffy's case, you know, because Nightguard was a billionaire like Puffy,

0:56:52.960 --> 0:57:00.759
<v Speaker 3>and Nightguard was a fashion icon who was using his

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 3>money's in power for perversion, you know, and youth just

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 3>now the dudes, man, I think they get they get

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 3>so much money and they get you know, there was

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 3>always crazy, but when they get the money, they go

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 3>extra crazy. Because we can't say everybody with money go crazy,

0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:25.440
<v Speaker 3>because Warren Buffet's not crazy, you know what I'm saying.

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, Mark Cuban is not crazy. You know, so

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:34.880
<v Speaker 3>the money.

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Really is not really is what driving you crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>I think some people are just naturally out there and

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<v Speaker 3>the money that comes in to match that energy just

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<v Speaker 3>drives them over the edge.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, man, I think it's a spiritual component

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<v Speaker 1>to this too. Man. I think if you are morally

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<v Speaker 1>bankrupt personally you broke, you really can't flex a lot

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that you want to do. But once

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<v Speaker 1>you get that paper, it kind of allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>step into that rim Man. It's a lot of like,

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of it's evil. It's a component that

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<v Speaker 1>evil definitely tied in.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely definitely it's attached to the bouchery. It's a spiritual

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<v Speaker 3>thing because godly people do godly things, right, and dark

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 3>people do dark things, you know, and who you align

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<v Speaker 3>yourself with is what you're going to do. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know a lot of us, you know in the game,

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<v Speaker 3>do crazy stuff, you know what I'm saying, to get

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<v Speaker 3>to the next level, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think this.

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<v Speaker 3>Has been going on in Hollywood before you and I

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<v Speaker 3>were born.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you know it's just right now.

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 3>It's just more visible because we got the Internet, you

0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But Puffy Be doing.

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Movie houses was doing it, fashion houses was doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it's crazy. I mean, we all forgetting that. Andrew

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<v Speaker 3>Konan left his house, went to a gay ball down

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:22.360
<v Speaker 3>in Wiho, and then drove down to Miami to shoot

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 3>for Sachi because somebody gave them aids, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, and they made.

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<v Speaker 3>A whole TV series about that, you know what I'm saying, right, But.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, man. You know what, I got nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>cut you off, Jackie. The monster is still out there too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the crazy part about it. Man. These people like

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>this don't disappear. Man. I'm gonna tell y'all in the audience,

0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 1>especially your young women and even the young brothers. Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>be careful out there because the monster is still running rampant,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of these people who your favorite rappers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>In the puffy paperwork, we got Stevie j going up

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<v Speaker 3>in dudes without any condoms, right, this was this was

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<v Speaker 3>this was written.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, so you know, as.

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<v Speaker 3>You just would say, you know, you gotta be safe

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<v Speaker 3>out there and practice safe sex and don't let these

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<v Speaker 3>people drive you the wrong way because the monster is

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<v Speaker 3>alive and kicking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't let them. Don't let their celebrity status know

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<v Speaker 1>how much money they got.

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<v Speaker 3>Fool you.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of these people because walking around, because the thing

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<v Speaker 1>is now they got medicine, man, the where you can

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<v Speaker 1>look like you shoot some of them dudes healthier to

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 1>me and you are.

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<v Speaker 3>They're flying out getting stem cell and all that in Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, you gotta you gotta have a certain

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<v Speaker 3>price bracket to do that. The regular Joe can't do that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So this could be this could be me and Jackie's

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we do every Tuesday night. We're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it live. We're gonna call it breaking news, just breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about a bunch of stuff. Ain't nobody

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<v Speaker 1>else talking about everything we do. It's gonna be fact based.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna necessarily be doing though, just making up

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and throwing it out there like these other clowns

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<v Speaker 1>we go, you know, get bringing y'all some real news.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate y'all, and we out there, y'all, stay safe

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<v Speaker 1>out there, right, Yeah,