Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1: So our boy Shine P Diddy comes, it's in a
Speaker 1: little bit of trouble tonight. I have a special guess here.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all remember Diary of Hollywood Street King.
Speaker 1: He was one of the first big websites on the
Speaker 1: West Coast that really spilled all the tea and all
Speaker 1: the stuff. My man, Jackie Jasper, guess what. I got
Speaker 1: him in the building, like you can't see him because
Speaker 1: he can't show his face. You know, he don't spill
Speaker 1: the tea on so many people, people like you're looking
Speaker 1: for him, Jackie, what's a man? All right?
Speaker 2: Man, I've gain't nobody looking for me. I just don't.
Speaker 2: I just ain't got no time for all that right now.
Speaker 2: Later on we get into all that. But we're good, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure, man, I appreciate you coming on first and foremost. Man,
Speaker 1: what's going on with your boy? Did he? Man? What's
Speaker 1: going on? Because I know, you know the really real
Speaker 1: well I mean.
Speaker 3: I think this Ben brow and for a minute, you know,
Speaker 3: I think everybody got something to say right now about Diddy.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 3: Those who knew him, we've been talking this over a
Speaker 3: decade now, you know.
Speaker 1: I remember not to tax you off. I remember five
Speaker 1: six years ago when me and you first started rapping.
Speaker 1: You was telling me there was something coming down about
Speaker 1: d and I said, man, you trip, it ain't nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with Pete Diddy.
Speaker 3: We will continue, and I mean, let's let's take it
Speaker 3: all the way back to our boy Tupac, who was
Speaker 3: who's most likely smiling from heaven right now because everything
Speaker 3: that Park said about him is actually coming to life,
Speaker 3: you know. And here's a dude who started off his
Speaker 3: life as we would call him a fucking nerd. I mean,
Speaker 3: excuse my language, we call him a nerd, a freaking nerd, right,
Speaker 3: And I would say that why because this guy partake
Speaker 3: in videos from groups like the Five Young Cannibals. He
Speaker 3: was teaching Stacy Latta saw how they dance.
Speaker 2: He was a good kid that went to Howard University and.
Speaker 3: Found out he had the gift of gab and then
Speaker 3: ran into I think the person who turned him out,
Speaker 3: which was Andre Herrel, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh so and he was a part of that little fraternity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think well after because Puff is
Speaker 3: going to school but hanging out with Andre and them
Speaker 3: on the weekends and all that. You know, I think
Speaker 3: that's when he got turned out and got a job
Speaker 3: right away from school as as a CEO of a
Speaker 3: of a of a record company and all that, you know,
Speaker 3: which is crazy, you know. And from from that plateau,
Speaker 3: leaving that and then getting connected with Clive Davis was
Speaker 3: really when it all happened in him. Getting connected with
Speaker 3: Clive was when Clive was connecting l A.
Speaker 2: Mead and and all of that.
Speaker 3: And I think at that time of this thing that
Speaker 3: we call hip hop, the man akad, the industry wanted
Speaker 3: to change the language of the game because prior to
Speaker 3: Puffy and all of that.
Speaker 2: We was on some public enemy and w a type phase.
Speaker 3: You know, we were we were belling, you know, we
Speaker 3: were belling a lot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So they had to calm down the noise.
Speaker 3: And you know, Clive gave Puffy a bag, gave On
Speaker 3: Andia Heral and baby I mean Ellie Reid and babyface
Speaker 3: bag and we started to see the music changing.
Speaker 1: You know, let me ask you a question, Jackie real quick,
Speaker 1: because you brought La read up. I me and you
Speaker 1: both know how La Reid get down without saying it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm mentioning the characters to show you
Speaker 3: the cast members, you know, so we're kind of putting
Speaker 3: the cast members and how people fit it in and
Speaker 3: how they connected, you know. And when bad Boy came
Speaker 3: to life, I mean, this guy was in his early twenties,
Speaker 3: you know, getting a job of probably a man who
Speaker 3: was the industry for decades.
Speaker 2: He just got in there like that's what.
Speaker 3: You call a plant, you know what I'm saying, That's
Speaker 3: what you call the street planned. Yeah, and his motive
Speaker 3: was to have the music that we were doing softened,
Speaker 3: and he softened it by having his rappers rap above
Speaker 3: Fasadi and the girls started liking it, and before you
Speaker 3: know it, it was coming.
Speaker 2: So the music was coming so wishy washy, you know.
Speaker 3: When he got into the game, but no one really
Speaker 3: took notice. Everyone partake in it because we're coming into
Speaker 3: it like a bling eerr you know, but everybody forgot that.
Speaker 2: This dude is really a plant and always was a plant.
Speaker 3: He got from this whole connecting with.
Speaker 2: Craig Mack, who.
Speaker 3: Is probably his first head record crag Macs, who he.
Speaker 1: Just found out. His cause of death, you know, was
Speaker 1: the virus, you know. Shout out to Craig mac rest
Speaker 1: in peace. That's just really interesting them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and let's say Craig was the first
Speaker 2: to jump off on bad Boy.
Speaker 3: You know, then we had you know, I mean Total
Speaker 3: wasn't there, but I think Total came after.
Speaker 2: Biggie, right, and Biggie came through.
Speaker 3: And now we're looking at one and two that was
Speaker 3: on the label. They're not here with us anymore. Irp
Speaker 3: the boat gentlemen, right sir. Both of them was jumping
Speaker 3: out the window on Buffy. Both of them wanted to
Speaker 3: be gone, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let me ask you this. So Biggie had
Speaker 1: plans on it. And I heard this from the homie
Speaker 1: gene deal. Shout out the gene you have out to
Speaker 1: him this morning. He told me that Biggie had plans
Speaker 1: on leaving.
Speaker 3: Of course, because I remember Biggie was messing with un
Speaker 3: and all those cats over there. Right, So Biggie and
Speaker 3: how plans to leave, you know, And then you know,
Speaker 3: we all know what happened to him. So that's a
Speaker 3: whole different thing. We're just breaking down how how a
Speaker 3: nerd became so violent criminal?
Speaker 2: Criminal?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, I know back then, his orientation
Speaker 1: wasn't really a big thing. And it's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff coming to likes, you know, about him doing a
Speaker 1: lot of really committing a lot of atrocities, cameras in
Speaker 1: every room of his house and had people feel we
Speaker 1: use that as and you told me he would use
Speaker 1: that as leverage against people.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm coming back to it.
Speaker 3: Should should not and said, this was the guy who
Speaker 3: was dancing all up in people's videos. So this was
Speaker 3: this was a happy, go lucky person for five minutes
Speaker 3: before he became so psychotic, right, And I think this
Speaker 3: all started out in the late nineties, you know, after
Speaker 3: Biggie's passing a little before, right, a little before he
Speaker 3: was going crazy. But he never went crazy till probably
Speaker 3: late nineties when he started eating ecstasy like kids eat vitamins,
Speaker 3: you know. And when he got into that drug is when.
Speaker 2: He went sex crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I think he was doing this for a minute
Speaker 3: without recording it, and then he started to record device
Speaker 3: for or leverage amongst others who were on camera partaking
Speaker 3: in his debauchery that he created, you know, and he
Speaker 3: was like making porn films without making box covers and
Speaker 3: stuff at the valley. He was just making these things
Speaker 3: for his personal blackmailing use and probably to watch privately
Speaker 3: at himself. So he was most likely a warrior, right.
Speaker 3: So he was the type of guy who prior from
Speaker 3: the camera would have these type of sexual festivity festivities
Speaker 3: going on, but he'd be type peeking and looking at it,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So he was more he
Speaker 3: was more director of dirt, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And in order to keep such a fueled, sick mind going,
Speaker 4: he added more different things to it.
Speaker 2: He added drugs, he added fear, you know, and it
Speaker 2: was all about power, you know what they say.
Speaker 1: They found a thousand bottles of baby oil at his house,
Speaker 1: and guns and all the other stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I mean, I think what they're trying
Speaker 3: to tell you about having the thousand baby oils and
Speaker 3: the thousand bottles of lube. I think what they're trying
Speaker 3: to let us know is that this was like a
Speaker 3: porn set, you know. And by having all the ars
Speaker 3: and stuff that they spoke about his laying as knowing
Speaker 3: that hey, this guy was violent at the same time,
Speaker 3: right and and bye, by giving him no bail.
Speaker 2: Shows that he's a flight risk, right.
Speaker 3: I mean they took his passports, they said in April,
Speaker 3: have to turn in his passports or something like that
Speaker 3: in April.
Speaker 2: Right, so he couldn't fly out.
Speaker 3: But if this is true, wasn't he just in Grenada
Speaker 3: when they went down there and got him or something?
Speaker 2: Right, So.
Speaker 3: If they had the passport in April, I believe in
Speaker 3: the summer he went down to the Grenada or something
Speaker 3: in the Caribbean knowledge, because that's when that's when the
Speaker 3: his drug dealer got busted, the white dude right around
Speaker 3: that time, right, So that means he don't care if
Speaker 3: you got my passport or nothing. He's still gonna do
Speaker 3: what he needed to do.
Speaker 2: Fly You don't care, but rule. So it seems like.
Speaker 3: He makes his own law. He's the law, and he's
Speaker 3: the order. You know, he calls the shots, and the
Speaker 3: government had to go down there and get him.
Speaker 1: Not no more. They made sure that they made sure
Speaker 1: that they made themselves clear with that. You know, he
Speaker 1: behind bars right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and and him not having his Barbara to
Speaker 3: die his hair and the dermatologists to have his skin
Speaker 3: all looking cool like puffy, him behind bars in the
Speaker 3: next two weeks, you're gonna see a whole different man.
Speaker 1: Seventy years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna embarrass him. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 3: about the embarrassment. He got his house out here in
Speaker 3: La out there in Calabasis.
Speaker 2: I believe he got that up for sale.
Speaker 3: Right, So I think she's selling that to pay some
Speaker 3: lawyers off and all that put his mama's house up
Speaker 3: part of the fifty million that he was trying to
Speaker 3: put out there for bail. And they canceled that. Told him,
Speaker 3: now now you ain't catching bail.
Speaker 1: And know so well why you think that? You think
Speaker 1: they believe? You said, they believe he's a flight risk.
Speaker 2: Right, I just told you.
Speaker 3: They took his They took his passport in April, and
Speaker 3: just this time in the summer when his his drug dealer,
Speaker 3: the white dude got bushed in there was in Grenada. Said,
Speaker 3: I mean he couldn't he left the country on his
Speaker 3: plane without without paperwork, you did, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So he told he showed them that I don't listen
Speaker 3: to the law.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You feel me?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 1: Now we were tall earlier, right, how many other people
Speaker 1: you think he goes throwing the grease with him. How
Speaker 1: many other people is involved in this? Any names that
Speaker 1: we may know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's it's it's so many names.
Speaker 3: I mean, so many different people, right, I mean, right
Speaker 3: now we can throw names.
Speaker 2: And speculation people. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3: Reading people talking about Cuba Good and Junior was there,
Speaker 3: you know, from from this is coming from the case,
Speaker 3: from that, that fact that lossuit that uh something Rod
Speaker 3: whatever his name is, whatever the for.
Speaker 1: But I you know what, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: buy everything that producer talk about, because he talked about
Speaker 1: that he was with Puffy for a year and did
Speaker 1: get conversated. I think he made a choice to hang
Speaker 1: out with Puffy. Now he's just trying to get him
Speaker 1: some bread.
Speaker 2: He No, you could be wrong and you could be right.
Speaker 2: Seems like he's trying to eat at two sides of
Speaker 2: the table. But he did tell us, you know, some.
Speaker 3: Information that that Cuba getting was sent by Puffy to
Speaker 3: to to get at him. So he treated that producer
Speaker 3: fellow like he was an escort.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: So if Puffy's gonna solicit you, that means he already
Speaker 3: had you. He did what I'm saying, he's not gonna
Speaker 3: solicit you without having you.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a.
Speaker 3: Madam selling selling one of her cortisans without knowing what
Speaker 3: her cartisan does, or pimp having a chick on the
Speaker 3: street and he doesn't know what she does. So Puffy
Speaker 3: had to knew what this guy was all about in
Speaker 3: order to solicit him to Cuba Gooding Junior.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So, I mean that was
Speaker 2: one name on the list.
Speaker 1: Well we got Cuba Gooding Junior, we got Stevie Jaying
Speaker 1: I heard stuff about it before all this stuff came out.
Speaker 1: Steve J. Looked like a perverb. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: gottle look to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stev J definitely is a part of the whole
Speaker 3: initiation thing. According to that producer Fella whatever his name was,
Speaker 3: that Puffy was showing him reels and tape and letting
Speaker 3: him know, this is all part of the industry. You know,
Speaker 3: these freaking officers is a part of the industry.
Speaker 2: Look, Stevie J's doing it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And and Stevie J's definitely a part of this. And
Speaker 3: we heard when they were reading out the charges on
Speaker 3: CNN today they said it wasn't just Puffy.
Speaker 2: They believed he had helped Bush and the ablers. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You know it was a crew.
Speaker 3: People were setting up these hotel rooms, some people was
Speaker 3: getting the drugs, people were cleaning up these hotel rooms
Speaker 3: after the parties, you know.
Speaker 1: M So they had the most disgusting job, and the
Speaker 1: the whole crew to clean up crew had the most
Speaker 1: distesting job.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it seems like.
Speaker 3: The police knows what that They got the bread crumbs,
Speaker 3: so they're making the loaf of bread right now, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So they know what it is,
Speaker 3: or they wouldn't have came and captured them and threw
Speaker 3: them in the tank. They know what, they know what
Speaker 3: they're doing.
Speaker 1: Feel h So as far as your boy loosing grains,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people in the music, a lot
Speaker 1: of executives, right you got loosing grains. And I'm really
Speaker 1: tripping out that Kevin Lows just quit three hundred to day,
Speaker 1: just step down in the You know, it could be timing,
Speaker 1: but I already had a little bit to do with
Speaker 1: this too. I already had his hands.
Speaker 2: In the pot too.
Speaker 3: I mean, who didn't go to Puffy parties is a
Speaker 3: question you got asked, who didn't go to those white parties?
Speaker 3: Remember he had the all white parties, you know, and
Speaker 3: before before this, Reuben Fella started doing it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Puffy's been doing this in the nineties. And you gotta
Speaker 3: ask yourself how many people attended these all white parties.
Speaker 3: You know it's Kevin Lownes there, Yeah, Kevin Lowles had
Speaker 3: to be bro Ellie Reid was a part of the crew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we all know how these do. See most
Speaker 1: of these dudes is married man, but them women are
Speaker 1: nothing more than beards.
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing more than that. I mean, you heard what
Speaker 3: Puffy said. Puffy said, this is a part of the industry,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: In his mind and it's a part of the industry. Now,
Speaker 3: we can't go out there and paint the industry with
Speaker 3: a broad brush and said and and think that everything
Speaker 3: Puffy said is true. He's just saying this to turn
Speaker 3: out the person that he's trying to turn out, you know,
Speaker 3: So he's telling his turnout.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody's doing this. This is what it is. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Take these pills and you'll feel
Speaker 2: good in half an hour you want to join us.
Speaker 3: You know, And that's what he was doing.
Speaker 2: And you asked me earlier, what names are there?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man? We can ask Usher about this.
Speaker 3: We can ask Justin Beaver, you know, we can, we can,
Speaker 3: we can, we can ask Jamaican the pre Were.
Speaker 2: You ever there?
Speaker 1: Pwn?
Speaker 2: I don't know because Delli was over there. Remember Nelly
Speaker 2: was a model, right mhm. I gotta ask Nelly what
Speaker 2: is this? Nelly? You know, did you see anything? You know,
Speaker 2: you go ask a lot of people, did you see anything?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Well.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of soft stuff. But you know,
Speaker 1: people usually keep their mouth shut about stuff. It's a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of craziness that goes on, man. And you
Speaker 1: know that, man, because that's why you know, you kind
Speaker 1: of when you had diarya for Hollywood Street King, you know,
Speaker 1: you had a lot of stuff going on over there. Man,
Speaker 1: he was exposing a whole lot. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean from that time, ain't nothing really changed.
Speaker 3: It's just validating what we put out twenty years ago,
Speaker 3: you know, and people thought we was putting out some
Speaker 3: crazy stuff or just hating, but it wasn't hate. It
Speaker 3: is the more ridiculous the story sounds, the more truth
Speaker 3: it is, you know, I mean, and these guys are
Speaker 3: doing some real Wait till people really here about Puffy and.
Speaker 2: How ridiculous this guy really is because.
Speaker 3: You got somebody who's flying high, flying high on some
Speaker 3: heavy hallucination drugs.
Speaker 1: No, it sounds like, you know a little bit more
Speaker 1: than what you're letting on. Man, go ahead, man and
Speaker 1: spill it. Man.
Speaker 2: No, I mean he's tripping.
Speaker 3: I mean he's got he's got special k on the tables.
Speaker 2: He's got.
Speaker 3: He's got cocaine, he's got ecstasy, he's got some Molly's,
Speaker 3: you know, he got he got a whole boy, he
Speaker 3: got tootsies, he got anything out there.
Speaker 5: He's he's he's he's puffy vv Puffy Puffy cvs. You know,
Speaker 5: he's got his own pharmacy happening.
Speaker 3: And then you gotta remember he's got he's flying this
Speaker 3: dope from from state to state on his private plane,
Speaker 3: right he had.
Speaker 1: Which is a major crime in itself because now he
Speaker 1: make it indictments from other places once you cross state lines,
Speaker 1: Like if you if I fly from California and I
Speaker 1: fly over these states, I fly over New Mexico, Arizona.
Speaker 1: They can all bring up charges. Is that true?
Speaker 2: True? You crossing state lines and he's flying this dope.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're speaking of what we know, so we're
Speaker 3: not pulling stuff from out of fit air.
Speaker 2: We're speaking of young.
Speaker 3: Mommy who just a few months back this year, you know,
Speaker 3: stories came up by her transporting dope on Puffy's aircraft
Speaker 3: to Puffy, you know, right, so she's gonna have something
Speaker 3: to say, right, I mean, the DA, the d A
Speaker 3: is not gonna throw a man who's damn it, who's
Speaker 3: a billionaire in the tank unless they got something on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some stuff, you know, because I know we
Speaker 1: heard about and you know what really tricks me out, man,
Speaker 1: And you told me all this stuff a long time ago.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie. I gotta apologize, jack Y.
Speaker 1: I ain't believe you told me he put us in
Speaker 1: the hospital. Man, I said, no, No, Man, be real, man, Usher,
Speaker 1: I need you to hit them notes a certain kind
Speaker 1: of way. Uh.
Speaker 3: I think what happened was with him and and and and.
Speaker 2: And Usher was I believe Usher.
Speaker 3: I had to stay with him for like about a
Speaker 3: year to groom him into being an artist. Who was
Speaker 3: sent to to Puffy from I believe elie Red and
Speaker 3: Puffy had to turn this young teenage boy into an artist.
Speaker 3: Now I'm not making this up. Usher said that Puffy
Speaker 3: took him to an orgy when he was underage. Right,
Speaker 3: Where was Usher's parents?
Speaker 1: Where was his mama at? Where was his you know,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't, I don't never hear nothing about
Speaker 1: Ush's father, But where was his mama at?
Speaker 2: So those are questions are going to be asked, you know.
Speaker 2: So he had these these these he had, he had
Speaker 2: that he had that dude as a as a kid.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: He did the same with Justin Bieber.
Speaker 3: Justin Bieber had to spend some time with him because
Speaker 3: he had to groom Justin Bieber into an artist.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And I mean it's like putting your daughter in the
Speaker 3: hands of Harvey Weinstein.
Speaker 2: So he's that You've given Justin Beaver to Puffy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what one thing that will say outside
Speaker 1: all this stuff, Puffy did do his thing with them
Speaker 1: kids musically and stuff. He did get him right, you know.
Speaker 1: So he did his job when he came to there.
Speaker 1: But he did his job and then something you know,
Speaker 1: He's a predator man, you know, seeing right now, he
Speaker 1: had a lot of predatory behavior, and.
Speaker 2: And he had a lot of connects because he was promising.
Speaker 3: These these these entertainers, Hey, I can get you a
Speaker 3: Grammy if you do.
Speaker 2: X, Y and Z for me sexually.
Speaker 3: You know. So it shows he had connects to the
Speaker 3: award shows as well.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Now as far as all these other people it's involved.
Speaker 1: You know, they took hit, you know, the Weininstein cat
Speaker 1: down a while ago. They've taken him down. How many
Speaker 1: people you think? How many more people you.
Speaker 2: Think out there regarding to to Puffy your watch.
Speaker 1: Team, regardless of just these just devis.
Speaker 3: I think I think the industry is full of them,
Speaker 3: a lot of copycats.
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, Puffy wasn't the first guy to do this.
Speaker 3: He saw this happening and he really to himself, maybe
Speaker 3: put his own flavor into his madness. But he saw
Speaker 3: this madness elsewhere, you know what I'm saying. So, how
Speaker 3: many Puffies are there? I mean, it's again of them.
Speaker 2: You know, we got we we got we got this. Uh,
Speaker 2: who's this? Who's this? Who's this guy who makes music
Speaker 2: for Katie Perry?
Speaker 3: And this guy doctor Luke whatever his name is, we
Speaker 3: got we got Keisha calling him out, you know, And
Speaker 3: I think you know what, I think what happens is, see.
Speaker 2: Doctor Luke.
Speaker 3: Is allowed to do what he probably still doing for
Speaker 3: the factor is that he's still making music.
Speaker 2: What we saw in R. Kelly. When R.
Speaker 3: Kelly couldn't make music anymore, they came and got him.
Speaker 1: And that's crazy, you know what I'm gonna talk about that, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's he's not He's not seeing the
Speaker 3: sun for a minute.
Speaker 2: You're the way we see it.
Speaker 3: And I think Puffy's downfall was when he couldn't create
Speaker 3: product anymore. For the man, he was useless now, you know.
Speaker 3: And he got so ahead of himself as a useless
Speaker 3: idiot that when he tried to sue the liquor company
Speaker 3: and them cats from France, and that's when.
Speaker 2: They all hit the fan.
Speaker 6: You did what I'm saying, Yeah, you one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: And I think somebody dropped the dime on Puff too.
Speaker 3: Man, he was doing too much. You know, you're doing
Speaker 3: too much. I mean, we got the cat out here,
Speaker 3: remember the family we used to own all the round
Speaker 3: supermarkets out here.
Speaker 2: Ron burkele mm hmmm, that was people would say.
Speaker 3: People would say allegedly that was Puffy's sugar daddy, you know.
Speaker 1: Because you know, I've been in the music industry man,
Speaker 1: and Puff made a lot of money. Like Puff was
Speaker 1: a big I believe Puff was a big in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a lot before. Dude who didn't put out
Speaker 1: no music in a long time.
Speaker 3: And once you're not putting out music, you're not really
Speaker 3: worth it anymore. And you brought up Lucci and Gray
Speaker 3: Jen it's funny because his son it's just like he's
Speaker 3: passing the torch onto his son.
Speaker 2: His son now runs warning music and all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you notice the time and all this though. Man,
Speaker 1: it's like everybody kind of clearing themself up. Loosen grains
Speaker 1: lead the country. Man.
Speaker 3: Everybody's kind of like cleaning up their act, right because
Speaker 3: they know how far is gonna go.
Speaker 1: I mean, Suffy about to tell Puffy about to start singing, man,
Speaker 1: Puffy ain't trying to do all that time. Man, he
Speaker 1: goes start sniching.
Speaker 3: So then the question we got to ask, is Puffy
Speaker 3: a man wanted dead?
Speaker 2: You know, because they certainly don't want them alive.
Speaker 1: That's sure. A man's some powerful people. When you start
Speaker 1: talking about the loosing granges of the world, Man, there
Speaker 1: all these other people, man, Clive, these people got made
Speaker 1: paper Man, And.
Speaker 3: I don't think Clive was involved. I think Clive actually
Speaker 3: was a part of throwing him under the bus.
Speaker 1: Believe so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, allegedly there's rumor that Clive was
Speaker 3: the one that helped paid for Cassie's lawyers.
Speaker 1: You know, that would make sense. But why do you
Speaker 1: think Clive would have beef against Puff? Because he gave
Speaker 1: put a whole bunch of money.
Speaker 3: He got ahead of himself. He forgot who made him.
Speaker 3: These plants. Plants are very crazy, you know, like plants
Speaker 3: lose their mind. They forgot that there were a plant
Speaker 3: like Puffy. Actually, in his mind, believes that without him, there.
Speaker 2: Would have been no Mary J. Blige, there had been
Speaker 2: no Biggie Smalls. There would have been he did what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, uh like, there would have been no New
Speaker 2: York in the nineties, you know.
Speaker 1: So he started doing too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he started thinking, I made New York, you know,
Speaker 3: I made all this ship. Excuse my language, I made
Speaker 3: all of this, you know. And I think that's when
Speaker 3: he went crazy, you know, with narcissism fueled by chemical dope.
Speaker 3: It just took him to the edge, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: here's a guy who wants to blow up kick cutt
Speaker 3: his truck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit. Puff was
Speaker 1: doing a whole lot of gangster stuff. Man, he was
Speaker 1: doing a whole lot of trying to you know, he
Speaker 1: putting mafia style hit some people.
Speaker 2: He hanged. He hanging while they out the window, you
Speaker 2: know the window. Yeah, because while they.
Speaker 3: Was doing a track with Cassie and they said, Wally
Speaker 3: and Wiley and them in the studio, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, Puffy barged in with his gang, you know,
Speaker 3: rushed while they put the smack store them and hung
Speaker 3: them out the window and all that by the ankles.
Speaker 3: You know. So, I mean, this is all allegedly that's
Speaker 3: being set, you know what I'm saying. So we're saying
Speaker 3: to ourselves, this guy's power hungry, he's losing it.
Speaker 2: Regard him just recently on the internet that.
Speaker 3: He was wilding out at a party with with with
Speaker 3: everybody who broke the store. I think it was Punch
Speaker 3: from TV.
Speaker 1: He broke the story. You know, Punch was supposed to
Speaker 1: be on here with me, man, I'm not there.
Speaker 2: Punks man saying that. You know, so he was crazy.
Speaker 3: He had one of the jay Z's men ended up,
Speaker 3: you know, putting the pieces on Jay Cole because Puffy
Speaker 3: had a disagreement with Jake Cole, you know. And then
Speaker 3: he punching Drake and the stomach. Puffy punching Drake and
Speaker 3: the stomach.
Speaker 2: Over a beat. I mean, he was going, he was
Speaker 2: he was showing out. You know, he's knocking up these
Speaker 2: little kids.
Speaker 3: He's beating these because come on, draking these catches, the
Speaker 3: little kids to Puffy.
Speaker 2: You do what I'm saying, right, Because Puffy been in
Speaker 2: this game since Heavy D man, you know now.
Speaker 1: A long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, before Casey and Joe. He was around
Speaker 3: with father and c man. You know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 1: Four years old though, Man, you know, Puffy ain't no
Speaker 1: spring chicken.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, this is a cat who's been doing
Speaker 3: a lot and then his wife passed away, kim porter,
Speaker 3: and that was kind of.
Speaker 1: Under mysterious circumstances, though, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying nothing. I'm just saying what
Speaker 3: people are saying. I'm saying. Donald Trump Junior. Don Junior
Speaker 3: said that his wife at the time used to model
Speaker 3: with Kim Porter, and Kim used to call her and
Speaker 3: tell her that she's living in a nightmare with this man.
Speaker 3: And if anything happens to me.
Speaker 2: It's this man, you know.
Speaker 3: And I didn't say that. It's Don Junior talking this,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it looks like.
Speaker 3: Democrat Republican both don't like this guy. This guy was
Speaker 3: terrorizing anybody. Seems like he's like the Black Epstein of
Speaker 3: the music business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was that cat Puff had his own
Speaker 1: island too, didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah down starling down in Miami. I sear he did
Speaker 3: all these ridiculous stunts.
Speaker 6: But that's ironic. It was called for a reason for
Speaker 6: a reason, man. You know, he hung out with Rick Ross.
Speaker 6: Rick Ross gotta have some stuff to say about this.
Speaker 6: You know that was Rick's buddy.
Speaker 3: Man. What hey, you know, I'm not, according according to
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Them, to catch with BFF. So I'm not pulling this
Speaker 2: out of sitting there. I'm just.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just parroting what people already put out
Speaker 3: there to put it all together to make a body
Speaker 3: of work.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, yeah, Hey, so I want
Speaker 1: to go back a little bit, man, because this puffy stuff.
Speaker 1: I think we go keep hearing stuff as days come out. Man,
Speaker 1: I think we gonna start seeing a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: pop up. Back in the day, Man, you broke a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. You was one of the first people
Speaker 1: to talk about one of my favorite rappers. Man, and
Speaker 1: I have a halfway don't want to say it, my
Speaker 1: boy bus a Bus.
Speaker 3: Now, I didn't even want to get into all that,
Speaker 3: but I think he's gonna be another name that's gonna
Speaker 3: be mentioning that puffy party. Yeah, regarding to Bus, I mean.
Speaker 1: Don't want to say it, man, you might as well.
Speaker 3: Go to say it, man, I mean, I really want
Speaker 3: to get into all that regurgitate things from the past.
Speaker 1: But but a lot of these people like it might
Speaker 1: not have heard that though, Man, you know, because it
Speaker 1: was something that came out a few months ago. And
Speaker 1: I laughed, I said, Man, my guys, Jack he told
Speaker 1: me about that too. Man. I don't want to believe it, man,
Speaker 1: but it gotta be true.
Speaker 3: You know. I mean said, I really don't want to
Speaker 3: go there, but you know, back in the day, you know,
Speaker 3: if he tried to knock on me like I was
Speaker 3: a check, you know what I'm saying, And I was
Speaker 3: like excusing, this was out of his mind.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: And that's how bold these cats, they feeling abowered that
Speaker 3: they could actually you know, here I am. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm Playboy and all that. So I'm
Speaker 3: looking at chicks and all that. I'm doing what I
Speaker 3: gotta do. We're running game, you know. Yeah, we know
Speaker 3: how to run game because we're in the nineties, so
Speaker 3: there's a whole lot of games going on with the
Speaker 3: girls and all that. You know. Yeah, these cats, these
Speaker 3: cats aren't even there. They're learn to like checking.
Speaker 2: On dudes and all that. You're like, Yo, she's fool crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm out here wearing for sat you, getting my hair
Speaker 3: dripped and all that for the checks Like this dude's
Speaker 3: taking that personal, like.
Speaker 2: You say, for you, this is for these girls.
Speaker 1: Like man, that's crazy, man, And that's crazy because I know. Now,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, when the whole when you
Speaker 1: broke that story about Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen, I'm starting
Speaker 1: to forgive me that that was an era, so I'm
Speaker 1: coming trying to sue me the whole thing about Charlie Sheen.
Speaker 1: Did you receive any threats?
Speaker 3: Not really?
Speaker 2: You know, I think that that was pretty cool, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: Put it this way.
Speaker 3: You know, when you when you're breaking stories like that
Speaker 3: or you're getting information like that, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you're a blogger anymore. At that time point, you're you're
Speaker 3: you're like a journalist because you're getting paid not to
Speaker 3: write everything that, you know, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because you're becoming so informed of what's cracking out there,
Speaker 3: people's legal teams are getting at you.
Speaker 2: To give you, to give you cash to yeah, to.
Speaker 3: Direct your narrative of of of what's coming out your mouth.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not saying that because there's so many
Speaker 1: other stories man that we can go into. But I
Speaker 1: don't even want to go in through some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to believe, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I mean, it's really I mean, as I said,
Speaker 3: we spoke about Puffy decade to go and here it
Speaker 3: is real life.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Uh, people didn't believe nothing back then, but they asked,
Speaker 3: they got asked themselves.
Speaker 2: Why did they not see it?
Speaker 3: You know, Like I'm not mad because Puffy never got
Speaker 3: nothing out of my pocket. You know, it's not like
Speaker 3: I took money out and gave Puffy or sponsored any
Speaker 3: of his crazy clothing line. I ain't never won, no,
Speaker 3: Sean John, you know what I'm saying, Like I never
Speaker 3: fed his machine, you know, but a lot of people did.
Speaker 3: And when you know something is wrong, you're not supposed
Speaker 3: to feed it. A lot of these people.
Speaker 2: They kind of knew someone was wrong, but they didn't care.
Speaker 3: So these a lot of people are more so enablers
Speaker 3: when they look at themselves.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: A lot of people is dancing in the clubs too,
Speaker 3: to the Benjamin.
Speaker 1: Bad boy has some dope records. Man, you can't. Can't
Speaker 1: that man?
Speaker 2: But got the time Tupac already told you about him.
Speaker 2: So how you going to be loving park.
Speaker 3: And having a glass in your hand dancing to the Benjamin?
Speaker 1: You got? Yeah? Well, you know what Pak said, This
Speaker 1: man Puffy getting like to hide the fact he did
Speaker 1: some stuff that he did sleep ryding for that you
Speaker 1: know a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I heard a lot of this stuff I
Speaker 1: heard a long time ago. Like you said, Man, it's
Speaker 1: all kind of like regurgitated at this point. But it's
Speaker 1: a trip when it all comes to fruition and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: people really getting indicted for all this stuff now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and it's gonna get bigger because there's some
Speaker 3: real names. I mean, you got models, you gonna have athletes,
Speaker 3: You're gonna have rappers, you're gonna have singers, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have policy.
Speaker 1: Do you have a big name that's confirmed that you
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 3: I mean, we we we spoke on names already. Of
Speaker 3: of all what we have mentioned, is there any more
Speaker 3: names to come out?
Speaker 2: I think in due time, so many names are gonna
Speaker 2: come out. It's gonna be ridiculous.
Speaker 3: You know, got to sit up here and just pull
Speaker 3: names out of the hat. Won't be justice to to
Speaker 3: a lot of people. But cool. But what you can
Speaker 3: say is that the West Coast is so clean right now?
Speaker 3: You know, you know what I'm saying, because you're not
Speaker 3: gonna hear about dre and this foolery.
Speaker 2: I'll go to hear about snooping, this foolery. You know
Speaker 2: you're not, you know, I mean out of the East
Speaker 2: fifties really clean to fifty, got no dirt on them,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: But I know he's laughing now though he laughed, you.
Speaker 3: Know, we gotta ask, you gotta we gotta ask. Did
Speaker 3: Dodds go to Puffy parties?
Speaker 2: You know, we gotta hope no.
Speaker 1: Man, now, it ain't going to no Puffy party. I
Speaker 1: rebut that I rebut that I hope now, but not
Speaker 1: none of the parties. Man, Now, it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: Man, I hope you didn't go.
Speaker 3: Man, But but but you know what you could attend
Speaker 3: but not part Take?
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, and it's one thing that people
Speaker 1: you could you.
Speaker 2: Could attend but not part Take. Yeah, I'm saying, but.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Let me ask you this, Jackie.
Speaker 1: You know what's a trip? Man? People forget stuff, right?
Speaker 1: You know who Puffy's favorite rapper was for a minute
Speaker 1: over the who was writing all the songs from? And
Speaker 1: who you know? Came up? Yeah, you know Mace's doing
Speaker 1: this thing right now with Cam. Shut out to Mace,
Speaker 1: but we can't forget man. And not too long ago
Speaker 1: he cut down. He got caught down in HL doing
Speaker 1: some things, you know, and.
Speaker 2: I mean not speaking about nothing, but with Mason.
Speaker 3: Cam had a beef I think right twenty fourteen or
Speaker 3: fifteen round there, these guys were beefing it they both
Speaker 3: had dish records out on each other.
Speaker 2: Cam kind of.
Speaker 3: Exposed May's with Puffy saying when he went over to
Speaker 3: Mason's body, saw dildos in the sink and all that.
Speaker 3: You know, Just once again, I am not making this up.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, this fact, man, that is
Speaker 3: all true. I'm parroting what.
Speaker 2: Cam set. You see what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 3: So, I think what Puffy was using his platform for
Speaker 3: was actually to make some to of course, make make
Speaker 3: money off selling records, of course, to get some awards.
Speaker 3: Of course, to keep the ads and brands going. Of
Speaker 3: course that was all included, you know. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, his vices was included. You know, his vices
Speaker 3: was what he was into.
Speaker 2: You know. Is he a bisexual?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: I mean there's so much to talk, I mean, so
Speaker 3: much to get into, you know, so much.
Speaker 1: And you know what, man, the thing that's crazy about
Speaker 1: this man. You know, when you start hearing the names
Speaker 1: like Bishop td Jakes and these names, man, it makes
Speaker 1: you really shake your head. Man, if you don't want
Speaker 1: to believe Stephan, like you said, it wouldn't be fair
Speaker 1: just to go calling people out, man, what it is,
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, I totally agree with you.
Speaker 1: We're hearing.
Speaker 2: TD Jake's names been mentioned for a minute. We're hearing it.
Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Now everything's gonna come to light, you know, wasn't the
Speaker 3: dog's gonna start shining? You know, it's gonna come out.
Speaker 3: And who is the kid from up Oakland? That that
Speaker 3: was Dayton kim Porter and he died.
Speaker 2: I forgot his name passed my mind.
Speaker 1: Kid from Oakland? That was Dayton kim Porter.
Speaker 2: No Oakland and kim Port.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that one.
Speaker 2: Jackly hold on m h mm hmm.
Speaker 7: H trying to see, trying to think, you know, I
Speaker 7: know what I'm talking about to you know, I know
Speaker 7: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Because I know Diddy beat a whole bunch of people
Speaker 1: up behind kim Porter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's that was no joke.
Speaker 3: I forgot to catch the name, man, I forget, But
Speaker 3: we we catch it next time. Somebody in the comedy
Speaker 3: section probably you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what though, man, But Puff did a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, you know, Puff beat up Shakir Stewart Man.
Speaker 2: Not I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Art you know what, man, I'm gonna say this man,
Speaker 1: Shake Stewart was a cool dude, man, but I think
Speaker 1: Puff had some stuff on him.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a questionable death.
Speaker 1: You know, that's very questionable because I don't think Secure
Speaker 1: didn't have no reason to commit no suicide.
Speaker 3: Man, when you die with a question mark, it's normally
Speaker 3: overdose or suicide, right, because Clay's case will be closed
Speaker 3: right away.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So when we look at suspicious death Seal, Michael Jackson overdose,
Speaker 3: Prince overdose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, let's let's talk about that real quick, man,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you and this is kind of
Speaker 1: going off this off the subject people, but I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Whitney Houston real quick, right, overdose, overdose,
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, and I believe even Prince, they
Speaker 1: all had one person in common. They had one person
Speaker 1: in coming. And even this dude got something to do
Speaker 1: with O Jay. So when you start talking about some
Speaker 1: serial killer like stuff, man, it's one dude. Can I
Speaker 1: say his first name?
Speaker 2: Oh, you can say his first name?
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, they can't see your face, nigga,
Speaker 1: So you say his first name.
Speaker 3: His real name, was Raffles van Exell. And we have
Speaker 3: a guy like just who's connected to three of our
Speaker 3: most favorite and celebrated icons, Michael Whitney, Prince, and.
Speaker 2: He was around.
Speaker 3: Through everyone's falling in life, like when they're about to
Speaker 3: wild out and spiral out of control.
Speaker 2: He was there. You know. He was like the merchant
Speaker 2: of death, you know. But that's a whole other character,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Character for real man, because he was on some medieval stuff. Almost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on some some next level type issue. You
Speaker 2: know that the stuff that we're talking about regarding.
Speaker 3: Parfer is more of an Epstein type of a takedown.
Speaker 3: You know, it didn't it ain't Weinstein, because Weinstein was
Speaker 3: just a perverb, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cat man, you know, it's like when you start
Speaker 1: getting all these people and then check this out, he
Speaker 1: winds up getting all the Prince's money, winds up being
Speaker 1: Princes Venice, Visiary Prince.
Speaker 2: You by talking about Raffles, Yeah yeah, well yeah, but they.
Speaker 1: Just I just thought about that man and sister and
Speaker 1: family don't get them. But it's a dude that comes
Speaker 1: from out of nowhere that he just met a few
Speaker 1: years go wind up getting all the money.
Speaker 2: Well what happened.
Speaker 3: Is I believe to make a long story short regarding that,
Speaker 3: because that's that there's a whole, complete, different storyline and chapter.
Speaker 2: Raffles excellent. What we're talking about is a dude who.
Speaker 3: Flew out, I think, to Missouri somewhere like that, him
Speaker 3: and his lawyer to meet Prince's half brother, Alfred Jackson.
Speaker 3: They met Alfred. Alfred the next day died of a
Speaker 3: heroin overdose and placed took his name off the well
Speaker 3: and Raffles ran xwell to receive his share of the
Speaker 3: will from his deceased brother Prince. And that's how Raffle
Speaker 3: got into Prince as well. Yeah, it's I mean, once again,
Speaker 3: I'm not making this up. It's on court doc.
Speaker 1: Man. This is all all facts right here. Man. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: you know what, Man? Can I ask you a question? Man?
Speaker 1: You know we're about to get out of here in a
Speaker 1: little bit. Man. Shout out to everybody, man who's been
Speaker 1: rocking with us, man for this past we've been here
Speaker 1: almost an how we got us a few more minutes?
Speaker 2: Man, I can't see.
Speaker 1: I'm blind as hell. So when y'all think i'm sleep, man,
Speaker 1: it's because my eyes. I'm blind. I can't see I
Speaker 1: be looking at this stuff, man, all of this stuff,
Speaker 1: and this dude ain't been in to jail. Man. You're
Speaker 1: talking about Whitney Houston, you talk about Prince, about Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson and mark me. If I'm like, tell me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, even Whitney's kids.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean yeah.
Speaker 3: He was connected too to Bobby Christina and Bobby Christina's
Speaker 3: boyfriend at the time, Nick Gordon, which both are no
Speaker 3: longer with us. EVA rip to both. I told you
Speaker 3: you're this character that we're talking to. And the chapter
Speaker 3: that you're opening is titled Merchant of Death, and that's
Speaker 3: a whole nother story.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about this. We're gonna start doing this
Speaker 1: every week. Got told my boy, because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: y'all this Jackie is responsible for all the bs y'all
Speaker 1: see today. I don't know if y'all ever looked at
Speaker 1: Diary of a Hollywood Street King of the Webbs, the
Speaker 1: blog that was out there, but he broke news on
Speaker 1: air everybody, and I swear y'all they didn't get to
Speaker 1: see half the good stuff because people contact the shoes,
Speaker 1: you know pretty much. They said, man, we got this
Speaker 1: for you if you don't talk about it, you know,
Speaker 1: because it was true, so they couldn't sue you about it, right.
Speaker 3: No, Because at that time the internet was the wild
Speaker 3: wild West.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Now they kind of got a grip on it, you know,
Speaker 3: because now they got troll farms to come in and
Speaker 3: try to debunk real stories, you know and throw you off.
Speaker 3: You know, so they got a lot of things going
Speaker 3: on back. I mean, I started blogging in two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight, man. You know when I started blogging, media
Speaker 3: takeouts was talking about Beyonce matching her person or shoes.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That was their big story, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: became in this game with a band like telling you
Speaker 3: what people just having for breakfast and.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Because she was one of the first people and correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Maybe tell me if I'm talking
Speaker 1: too much. You had one of the you had one
Speaker 1: of the one of them girls that everybody messing with.
Speaker 1: You had their mama sending you information.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, everybody was. I had so much information
Speaker 3: coming in. I I just couldn't keep up with them
Speaker 3: with the drops, you know, because I was running the
Speaker 3: only site that would publish anything that was real because
Speaker 3: everybody else was really a fan, you know, and I
Speaker 3: wasn't a fan of nothing because I'm coming from the industry.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: So nowadays that's all changed. But I wasn't really playing
Speaker 3: all that. I was just getting all these getting all these.
Speaker 2: Drops, you know.
Speaker 3: And I was paying for the drops too. So they
Speaker 3: hit me with some drops. I'll get over the Western
Speaker 3: Union whatever, because we didn't have cash shop and all
Speaker 3: that back then, you know, And you get out Western Union,
Speaker 3: send them some money in once. As you're wenting up
Speaker 3: the streets, they keep coming at you. You know, they're
Speaker 3: telling me what's going on in real time? Three him
Speaker 3: in the morning, and we ho you know.
Speaker 2: Oh, I just saw so and so pulled through, you know,
Speaker 2: get out of here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but before we go, man, one, what's the biggest
Speaker 1: story you ever broke over there?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I think the biggest one was Charlie Sheen, you know, telling,
Speaker 3: you know, telling, telling the world that he was infecting
Speaker 3: people with HIV. And I think the second one is
Speaker 3: what really got me in trouble, which was the Peter
Speaker 3: Niguard story, of which reminds me so much of the
Speaker 3: Puffy's case, you know, because Nightguard was a billionaire like Puffy,
Speaker 3: and Nightguard was a fashion icon who was using his
Speaker 3: money's in power for perversion, you know, and youth just
Speaker 3: now the dudes, man, I think they get they get
Speaker 3: so much money and they get you know, there was
Speaker 3: always crazy, but when they get the money, they go
Speaker 3: extra crazy. Because we can't say everybody with money go crazy,
Speaker 3: because Warren Buffet's not crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, Mark Cuban is not crazy. You know, so
Speaker 3: the money.
Speaker 2: Really is not really is what driving you crazy?
Speaker 3: I think some people are just naturally out there and
Speaker 3: the money that comes in to match that energy just
Speaker 3: drives them over the edge.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You know what, man, I think it's a spiritual component
Speaker 1: to this too. Man. I think if you are morally
Speaker 1: bankrupt personally you broke, you really can't flex a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you want to do. But once
Speaker 1: you get that paper, it kind of allows you to
Speaker 1: step into that rim Man. It's a lot of like,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's evil. It's a component that
Speaker 1: evil definitely tied in.
Speaker 3: Definitely definitely it's attached to the bouchery. It's a spiritual
Speaker 3: thing because godly people do godly things, right, and dark
Speaker 3: people do dark things, you know, and who you align
Speaker 3: yourself with is what you're going to do. And you
Speaker 3: know a lot of us, you know in the game,
Speaker 3: do crazy stuff, you know what I'm saying, to get
Speaker 3: to the next level, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think this.
Speaker 3: Has been going on in Hollywood before you and I
Speaker 3: were born.
Speaker 2: Man, you know it's just right now.
Speaker 3: It's just more visible because we got the Internet, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But Puffy Be doing.
Speaker 3: Movie houses was doing it, fashion houses was doing it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, it's crazy. I mean, we all forgetting that. Andrew
Speaker 3: Konan left his house, went to a gay ball down
Speaker 3: in Wiho, and then drove down to Miami to shoot
Speaker 3: for Sachi because somebody gave them aids, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, and they made.
Speaker 3: A whole TV series about that, you know what I'm saying, right, But.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man. You know what, I got nothing to
Speaker 1: cut you off, Jackie. The monster is still out there too.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy part about it. Man. These people like
Speaker 1: this don't disappear. Man. I'm gonna tell y'all in the audience,
Speaker 1: especially your young women and even the young brothers. Y'all
Speaker 1: be careful out there because the monster is still running rampant,
Speaker 1: and a lot of these people who your favorite rappers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what it is.
Speaker 3: In the puffy paperwork, we got Stevie j going up
Speaker 3: in dudes without any condoms, right, this was this was
Speaker 3: this was written.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you know, as.
Speaker 3: You just would say, you know, you gotta be safe
Speaker 3: out there and practice safe sex and don't let these
Speaker 3: people drive you the wrong way because the monster is
Speaker 3: alive and kicking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't let them. Don't let their celebrity status know
Speaker 1: how much money they got.
Speaker 3: Fool you.
Speaker 1: Lot of these people because walking around, because the thing
Speaker 1: is now they got medicine, man, the where you can
Speaker 1: look like you shoot some of them dudes healthier to
Speaker 1: me and you are.
Speaker 3: They're flying out getting stem cell and all that in Europe.
Speaker 3: But you know, you gotta you gotta have a certain
Speaker 3: price bracket to do that. The regular Joe can't do that,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: So this could be this could be me and Jackie's
Speaker 1: thing that we do every Tuesday night. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: it live. We're gonna call it breaking news, just breaking news.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a bunch of stuff. Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: else talking about everything we do. It's gonna be fact based.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna necessarily be doing though, just making up
Speaker 1: stuff and throwing it out there like these other clowns
Speaker 1: we go, you know, get bringing y'all some real news.
Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all, and we out there, y'all, stay safe
Speaker 1: out there, right, Yeah,