Speaker 1: My colleagues will stop commenting on everything I get people
Speaker 1: and meeting Why does my coworker keep taking credit for
Speaker 1: all my ideas? Have any wisdom for me? Hi'm Alison Green.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Aska Manager podcast, where I answer questions
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Speaker 1: Let's get started. I get a lot of letters from
Speaker 1: people who are stuck in a difficult situation at work
Speaker 1: and it's something that isn't going to change, or at
Speaker 1: least they are not the one with the power to
Speaker 1: change it. It could be a terrible boss, or a
Speaker 1: really frustrating coworker, a terrible company culture, but whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it's not something that they have the ability to resolve themselves.
Speaker 1: And they're trying to figure out, knowing that I can't
Speaker 1: change this, how do I avoid being driven crazy by it?
Speaker 1: And when our guest today wrote to me, that is
Speaker 1: the question that you put. Hi and welcome to the show. Hello,
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to be here. So you have a
Speaker 1: situation at work with a new Ish coworker who is
Speaker 1: creating a lot of drama and unpleasantness. She's doing things
Speaker 1: like throwing temper tantrums and slamming doors and throwing papers
Speaker 1: and complaining about everyone around her, and you're not in
Speaker 1: a position to do anything about it. You're lower in
Speaker 1: the hierarchy than she is. Is that right? That is correct?
Speaker 1: Throwing papers is pretty extreme. How do geople around her
Speaker 1: react when she's doing that? Um, we typically try and
Speaker 1: you know, just avoid adding to the fire, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. You know, she will, depending on the day,
Speaker 1: if she's frustrated with something. I mean, she really just
Speaker 1: will throw papers around at her desk. She kind of
Speaker 1: you know, slams her drawers, she kind of mutters to herself,
Speaker 1: you know, swearing and um, you know, slams various doors,
Speaker 1: you know, the doors from the front of the office
Speaker 1: to the back of the office. And if there's clients,
Speaker 1: you know, she just kind of will storm through the
Speaker 1: front of the office, or she will be complaining about
Speaker 1: something that she also does, if not more extreme, And
Speaker 1: it's it's a very interesting time, to say the least.
Speaker 1: I'm so curious about this. Has she behaved this way
Speaker 1: in front of her boss or in front of anyone
Speaker 1: else who's senior to her. Um, she behaves that way
Speaker 1: to people senior to her. Absolutely. Um, it's a law firm.
Speaker 1: So she's done that in front of associates. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen her do it in front of partners as much,
Speaker 1: but she does still keep kind of the same persona
Speaker 1: She's not ever since she started, she's been like that.
Speaker 1: She hasn't. She didn't ever put on a face when
Speaker 1: she first started. She wasn't her best self. So because
Speaker 1: you know, you know, when you first start somewhere, you're
Speaker 1: you are absolutely your best self. I kind of concerned
Speaker 1: because I was like, if this is her best self,
Speaker 1: then we can all go down from here. Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's so ridiculous for anyone to be
Speaker 1: like this at work in general. But it's so interesting
Speaker 1: that she's doing it well she's new, because, as you say,
Speaker 1: usually people who are going to eventually be over the
Speaker 1: line at least have the sense to wait until they've
Speaker 1: been there a while longer and are more woven into
Speaker 1: the organization and more comfortable. So it's bizarre that she's
Speaker 1: doing it while she's still knew. How new is she
Speaker 1: now at this point, probably a couple of months in.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when it first started becoming a very big issue.
Speaker 1: I mean she was less than a month in. She
Speaker 1: had already taken about four days off in a month span,
Speaker 1: whether it was calling in sick or just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure. Again, I'm I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: deal with that as much. But yeah, solid three Mondays
Speaker 1: and a Friday. This is fascinating. Now you said it's
Speaker 1: a law firm, which actually made me think, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: because law firms are sort of notorious if you're bad behavior.
Speaker 1: Is she a lawyer? She is not, she's fair legal. Okay, interesting, okay,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it does seem like law firms are just
Speaker 1: like riven with bad behavior. Um. Absolutely, Now is your
Speaker 1: sense that it's being addressed behind the scenes, just more
Speaker 1: slowly than it should be, or do you work somewhere
Speaker 1: with a culture where problems don't always get addressed. So
Speaker 1: it is a very small law firm. Um, there's less
Speaker 1: than ten of us total, so it is not the
Speaker 1: typical office environment. You know, law firms in general are
Speaker 1: notorious for being kind of a little toxic, and we
Speaker 1: are definitely not a typical office. We were very close, Um,
Speaker 1: personal lives are very intertwined. One aspect of it did
Speaker 1: get addressed luckily actually after I had initially written into you. Um,
Speaker 1: but as a whole it has not been addressed. And
Speaker 1: things typically don't get addressed unless it really causes a
Speaker 1: huge problem to clients, if that makes sense. If if
Speaker 1: it's just between us, it doesn't necessarily need to be addressed,
Speaker 1: or you know, it does need to be addressed, but
Speaker 1: it is not a priority. Yeah, that makes sense. And
Speaker 1: the fact that it's such a small firm I'm sure
Speaker 1: makes it worse because if you had a couple of
Speaker 1: hundred people there, you wouldn't be exposed to this all
Speaker 1: the time. But with only ten of you, it's going
Speaker 1: to be hard to get away from that. Oh you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't get away from it. Absolutely. It is not
Speaker 1: only that, is it a it's a small physical office
Speaker 1: so and it's very open, so I mean you can
Speaker 1: hear her constantly. Yeah. Now, you had said to me
Speaker 1: in your letter that aside from this, you really love
Speaker 1: your job, you're really happy there. But what made you
Speaker 1: write into me was that you find yourself kind of
Speaker 1: getting caught up in the drama that she creates, and
Speaker 1: it gets you frazzled and stressed and your work suffers.
Speaker 1: Will you tell me more about that again? And caught
Speaker 1: up in it and it affecting your work absolutely. So
Speaker 1: typically you know her temper tantrums and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not as privy to it because I am separated.
Speaker 1: I have a you know, I have a door. I don't.
Speaker 1: She has slammed my door before, but I have a door.
Speaker 1: I'm away from her typically, but recently she sent a
Speaker 1: very passive, aggressive email to me, didn't copy anyone UM,
Speaker 1: and she did it to another coworker that I found
Speaker 1: out later that really, I mean, just thinking about it
Speaker 1: kind of gets me a little caught up again because
Speaker 1: it was just very frustrating to be on the receiving
Speaker 1: end of it, and it really affected me for the
Speaker 1: whole day. I could I kept thinking about it. It
Speaker 1: was just getting me really frustrated and I really couldn't
Speaker 1: think about anything else. And was it just like personal nastiness? Yes,
Speaker 1: and no, it was something that um. The what she
Speaker 1: was emailing about, which I've seen you talk about plenty
Speaker 1: of times, UM was actually a candle, which sounds very dramatic.
Speaker 1: So she emailed me about a candle I had burning,
Speaker 1: and we had discussed it. She had emailed someone else
Speaker 1: about a candle they had burning and just complaining about it,
Speaker 1: not saying it made her ill, but just saying she
Speaker 1: didn't like it. And something that frustrated me about it
Speaker 1: especially was that she is a smoker, and so she'll
Speaker 1: come into our tiny office space, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: breaking and you know, unfortunately it is an addiction. I
Speaker 1: understand that, but it's just kind of a a give
Speaker 1: and take that she doesn't quite see, I guess is
Speaker 1: that the reason we're burning these candles is because we're
Speaker 1: trying to cover up that smell. And so she'll send
Speaker 1: a very passive, aggressive email that really, I mean, just
Speaker 1: really got to me that day. Okay, So I think
Speaker 1: there are two issues. One is this big question of
Speaker 1: how do you avoid letting this kind of thing get
Speaker 1: to you when it's happening around you and there's nothing
Speaker 1: that you can do about it. And the other is
Speaker 1: how do yours on when she's rude directly to you.
Speaker 1: I can't believe she slammed your door, by the way,
Speaker 1: was she like storming out of your office and a huff.
Speaker 1: She she was actually just like walking through and it
Speaker 1: was oh man, it was And the email actually came
Speaker 1: shortly after that one. Ah. Yes. So she just kind
Speaker 1: of stomped through and slammed the door, and I I
Speaker 1: thought maybe something was going on with her. I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe she's frustrated, you know. But then it came to me,
Speaker 1: so I was like, Oh, you slammed the door because
Speaker 1: of me. That's I mean, it's really hard to ignore
Speaker 1: stuff like that because other annoying habits, I mean, frankly,
Speaker 1: all annoying habits can be hard to ignore. But others
Speaker 1: you can kind of let them roll off of you.
Speaker 1: But when someone is injecting that kind of aggressive anger
Speaker 1: into the environment you're working in, that is really hard
Speaker 1: to tune out. I mean, that's just a very disruptive
Speaker 1: energy to have around you. Well, I want to give
Speaker 1: some advice. Let's take a short break here, and when
Speaker 1: we come back, let's get into what you can actually
Speaker 1: do about this. Okay, and we are back. Before the break,
Speaker 1: I was saying, I think there's probably two different questions here.
Speaker 1: There's what do you do when she's rude to you?
Speaker 1: And there's what do you do about this bigger situation
Speaker 1: that you can't control. When she's rude to you directly,
Speaker 1: I think you have a couple of options. With some people,
Speaker 1: you can address it pretty directly. I don't think I
Speaker 1: would recommend that with her because she sounds like a
Speaker 1: loose cannon, and I don't know that there is a
Speaker 1: point in engaging. I mean, she sounds volatile and just
Speaker 1: generally kind of horrible. But if that weren't the case,
Speaker 1: then sometimes you can just name the rudeness and ask
Speaker 1: what's going on, Like, Hey, your tone here really surprised me.
Speaker 1: Is there something going on that I don't know about?
Speaker 1: Or I might be misinterpreting, but you sound frustrated with me?
Speaker 1: What context am I missing? And sometimes again I don't
Speaker 1: think with her, but sometimes just practically calling it out
Speaker 1: like that, not being rude back, but just naming what
Speaker 1: you're hearing and asking what's up with it. Sometimes rude
Speaker 1: people will respect that and respond to it. Sometimes they're
Speaker 1: so used to never having been called out in a direct,
Speaker 1: matter of fact way that they will actually back off.
Speaker 1: I actually did this with a coworker once ages ago.
Speaker 1: Some of the time he was fine, but sometimes he
Speaker 1: would get just really grumpy and aggressive out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: I think it was just like when he was in
Speaker 1: a bad mood, he would take it out on everyone else.
Speaker 1: And I was finally like, look, you're talking to me
Speaker 1: in a way that is really unpleasant. What am I
Speaker 1: missing here? And he actually apologized and stopped doing it
Speaker 1: around me, So that was a success. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: work every time, and I don't think it's the solution
Speaker 1: here with this coworker because she just sounds too far
Speaker 1: gone for that. So there is another option, which is
Speaker 1: to just kind of ignore it. And I mean, like
Speaker 1: like I was saying earlier, that's really hard to do
Speaker 1: with that kind of hostility and anger. But you could
Speaker 1: try really internalizing that this behavior is all about her,
Speaker 1: you know, and clearly it is, because no rational person
Speaker 1: is doing this sort of thing. No rational person is
Speaker 1: routinely thrown papers at work. You're those doors. I mean,
Speaker 1: people just don't do that. So I think if you
Speaker 1: can internalize this is a about her, sometimes you can
Speaker 1: kind of distance yourself from it because you work with
Speaker 1: this crazily hostile person and sometimes that is going to
Speaker 1: splatter on you because you're standing nearby, But it's not
Speaker 1: about you. And if you get really clear on that
Speaker 1: in your head. Sometimes it can make it easier to
Speaker 1: just let it roll off you. You know, you get
Speaker 1: a route email, you roll your eyes at it, maybe
Speaker 1: you even feel sorry for but then you move on
Speaker 1: with your day. But I mean, I know that that
Speaker 1: is really easier said than done with someone like this.
Speaker 1: I do want to say more about this idea of
Speaker 1: feeling sorry for her that I just mentioned, because well,
Speaker 1: that is probably the last, the last instinct that you're
Speaker 1: having right now. There might be something there that will help.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not required to feel sorry for her.
Speaker 1: She's behaving wildly inappropriately, and she's making your work environment
Speaker 1: really awful, and you don't have to have sympathy for
Speaker 1: that if you don't want to. But it is true
Speaker 1: that you've got to be a pretty unhappy person to
Speaker 1: routinely behave the way that she is. I mean, imagine
Speaker 1: being her and going through your life that way, like
Speaker 1: imagine showing up at a new job that way. I
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of relationships she can have with
Speaker 1: family and friends when she's like this, but I would
Speaker 1: bet that they're not great ones. And I would bet
Speaker 1: she has yeah, and I bet she has a lot
Speaker 1: of weird stuff going on internally. I mean, obviously, anger
Speaker 1: at a minimum before is often a cover for other issues.
Speaker 1: So I mean not to be overly sympathetic here, because
Speaker 1: she is making your life pretty bad, but I bet
Speaker 1: it is fairly painful and frustrating to be her, And
Speaker 1: sometimes if you can remember that, it can drain a
Speaker 1: lot of power from the person and make it easier
Speaker 1: to let their behavior roll off of he because now
Speaker 1: she's not this monster. Now she's kind of this sad
Speaker 1: situation that you can have pity for. Does any of
Speaker 1: that resonate? I mean, um, it's kind of been what
Speaker 1: I've been trying to do, honestly, is especially given the
Speaker 1: context that I hadn't mentioned this earlier. But she's not
Speaker 1: really even doing much work. She's not really doing much
Speaker 1: of anything. Um, if she gets projects, she maybe does
Speaker 1: one a day, you know, So in that context, especially um,
Speaker 1: given that she's claimed to have you know, so much
Speaker 1: work history in this environment, I do feel sorry for
Speaker 1: her because I can't imagine this lasting for very long.
Speaker 1: I I do feel pity, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know, it does get in your head eventually, no
Speaker 1: matter how much you can kind of I don't want
Speaker 1: to say knock her down, but you know, knock a
Speaker 1: monster down. Yeah, gosh. I wonder if the reason she's
Speaker 1: not doing very much work. I wonder if people are
Speaker 1: hesitant to give her work because she's difficult to work with.
Speaker 1: Initially she got quite a bit of work. And I
Speaker 1: mean there, of course, with any new job, there's a
Speaker 1: learning curve of how to do it at this specific office,
Speaker 1: even if you've been doing it for you know, twenty
Speaker 1: or so years. So initially there was a learning curve
Speaker 1: and it was pretty steep. Um. The people who worked
Speaker 1: immediately with her were we're a little alarmed at how
Speaker 1: steep that learning curve was. And even though they kept
Speaker 1: assigning projects, they would have to keep taking them back
Speaker 1: because again, it's a law firm, there are deadlines to me,
Speaker 1: So as much as they try to assign work, whatever
Speaker 1: that work is, she'll complain about it. Even she'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't good enough for me. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't file, or you know, I want to do this,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, And it's just we
Speaker 1: all do these things. Whatever she is getting assigned, we
Speaker 1: all do them. So her thinking she's better than whatever
Speaker 1: tasks she's assigned again is an they're very frustrating things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how he said that usually problems don't
Speaker 1: really get forthrightly addressed there unless they're impacting clients. But
Speaker 1: I wonder if this piece of it might eventually move
Speaker 1: it into that category where it does get addressed. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: It is again, since I've written in it is kind
Speaker 1: of slowly gotten into the circle of what the upper
Speaker 1: levels are thinking about. They're kind of they're aware of it,
Speaker 1: they've kind of discussed it with their upper levels and
Speaker 1: and kind of seeing what they're finally realizing that we've
Speaker 1: all had to deal with for quite a bit of time. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: it's good that it's being seen and and this might
Speaker 1: be the piece of it that does get it brought
Speaker 1: to a resolution. Who knows. I want to talk also
Speaker 1: about the other piece of this, this question of how
Speaker 1: do you work somewhere that has a frustrating situation going
Speaker 1: on that you can't stop and not let it get
Speaker 1: to you. So we'll do one final break and when
Speaker 1: we come back, let's tackle that. Okay, we are back,
Speaker 1: So we want to talk about the big question of
Speaker 1: your letter, which is when there is something really frustrating
Speaker 1: going on around you at work and you can't stop it.
Speaker 1: What do you do? And I think there are a
Speaker 1: couple of different things I'm going to throw out there.
Speaker 1: We'll see if any of them resonate with you. Maybe
Speaker 1: all of them will, maybe none of them will. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens, hopefully all of them. Hopefully all of them.
Speaker 1: That's right, So one of them is just trying to
Speaker 1: get some clarity about what the situation is. If you knew,
Speaker 1: for example, that your workplace was generally pretty good about
Speaker 1: addressing problems, but it just tended to take a few months,
Speaker 1: you might be able to safely assume, Okay, my past
Speaker 1: experience here tells me that they are on this and
Speaker 1: something is going to get done. But I also know
Speaker 1: that it's not the fastest process. But I do know
Speaker 1: enough to trust that it's not being ignored and in
Speaker 1: time this will be dealt with um or in your case,
Speaker 1: it might be it's seems like this is on their
Speaker 1: radar now, and there might be details of this that
Speaker 1: are going to mean that it will be addressed, even
Speaker 1: if otherwise it might not have been. Or if you
Speaker 1: are somewhere that never addressed problems no matter what which
Speaker 1: is definitely a place that some people work in that
Speaker 1: in itself, as frustrating as it is, is actually another
Speaker 1: kind of clarity because in that case, you can tell yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, I really like working here because of X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z, but I know that one of the
Speaker 1: trade offs is that they are way too accommodating of
Speaker 1: bad behavior and this is probably going to go on
Speaker 1: for quite a while. And that doesn't sound very helpful
Speaker 1: or very very encouraging, I know, but it can help
Speaker 1: you avoid a situation where every time your co worker
Speaker 1: has an outburst, you're sort of being in your head
Speaker 1: against the wall with frustration about why no one is
Speaker 1: dealing with it, because you know why they're not dealing
Speaker 1: with it. You know their conflict of verse and they
Speaker 1: don't deal with problems, and so you don't need to
Speaker 1: like gnash your teeth waiting for it to be handled.
Speaker 1: You you know that it's going to go on for
Speaker 1: a while, and there can be a kind of emotional
Speaker 1: freedom in just knowing that, so that you aren't like
Speaker 1: waiting and wondering and pulling out your hair about why
Speaker 1: no one is taking action. Does that make sense? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: There's so much freedom and just kind of accepting the
Speaker 1: fact that nothing will be done about this, so let
Speaker 1: me just move on with what I have to do
Speaker 1: and just you know, try and truck a long best
Speaker 1: I can. There's absolutely a clarity in that. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think seen from one angle, that can sound really pessimistic,
Speaker 1: but it really is liberating to just like to not
Speaker 1: have to think, like, do I have to tell someone
Speaker 1: about this? Is there something that I should be doing?
Speaker 1: Is it going to be tomorrow that they deal with it.
Speaker 1: It really like you can kind of relax sometimes when
Speaker 1: you realize this is just going to be how it is.
Speaker 1: Another thing you can sometimes do is to talk to
Speaker 1: your own boss about the situation. Not always, but if
Speaker 1: you do have a pretty good relationship with your boss
Speaker 1: and she seems to have good judgment and be reasonably
Speaker 1: clued into what is going on in your office, sometimes
Speaker 1: you can say something like, hey, do you have any
Speaker 1: sense of what is going on with Jane? Do you
Speaker 1: think someone who's working on it behind the scenes and
Speaker 1: who knows you might hear, oh, it is definitely being handled,
Speaker 1: which would give you some comfort, or you might hear, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Jane's boss has her hands full with other stuff.
Speaker 1: So I think it's probably not getting very much attention
Speaker 1: right now. Or you know, Jane's uncle plays golf with
Speaker 1: the CEO, and so no one who knows, but it
Speaker 1: might give you just some more context for what's happening.
Speaker 1: But the big thing that I want to recommend, and
Speaker 1: if you've read Asking Manager for any length of time,
Speaker 1: you've probably heard me say this before, and because I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan of this, and it is that sometimes
Speaker 1: when you are stuck in a situation where there is
Speaker 1: bad behavior going on that you can't do anything about,
Speaker 1: it can be helpful to reframe it in your head
Speaker 1: so that you find it entertaining. My sister, my sister
Speaker 1: actually told me a long time ago that when she
Speaker 1: is stuck in a situation with irritating people and she
Speaker 1: can't get away from them, she pretends that she is
Speaker 1: a heroine in a Jane Austin novel, and she is
Speaker 1: a poor relation who's stuck around these rich relatives who
Speaker 1: are behaving badly and she's dependent on them, so she
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it, which is a common theme
Speaker 1: in Jane Austen novels. And she said it really changes
Speaker 1: her perspective because she loves Jane Austen, She's able to
Speaker 1: find it amusing instead of just annoying. And I love
Speaker 1: this advice for work things. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: Jane Austen. You could pretend it's like a workplace comedy,
Speaker 1: like the office or any other form of entertainment because
Speaker 1: you're a coworker. Sounds like she is behaving badly enough
Speaker 1: that she could be a character on a TV show,
Speaker 1: maybe even one where you would watch it and think
Speaker 1: this is such an unrealistic portrayal because no one would
Speaker 1: get away with behaving that badly. Or you can pretend
Speaker 1: there's a variation on that. You can pretend that you're
Speaker 1: an anthropologist who's studying a different species, or like an
Speaker 1: alien life form. With all of these, I think the
Speaker 1: reason they work, to whatever it's not that they do
Speaker 1: work is that you're putting some emotional distance between you
Speaker 1: and the situation, and when you step back, it's easier
Speaker 1: to find some hue or in it, and that drains
Speaker 1: a lot of power from the person and can make
Speaker 1: the whole thing more bearable. Does any of that resonate absolutely,
Speaker 1: especially you know kind of picturing it. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: as you're as you said, the office. I'm just thinking
Speaker 1: of watching a TV show about a workplace and having
Speaker 1: her as a character and just being I mean, it
Speaker 1: would be completely comical, you know, watching people having to
Speaker 1: deal with her and seeing the things she does, and
Speaker 1: I mean even seeing the things that I don't see
Speaker 1: that she does I'm sure are incredibly entertaining. So that
Speaker 1: absolutely does you know. I'm just thinking about it now,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of hilarious. Yeah, it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you are living it, it is very often not hilarious.
Speaker 1: You can get yourself into a headspace where you have
Speaker 1: distanced yourself and you are thinking, like, my god, she's
Speaker 1: like a caricature of a bad coworker. There really can
Speaker 1: be humor in it, and there is so much power
Speaker 1: in being able to do that because it does take
Speaker 1: you out of this space where your frazzle and on edge,
Speaker 1: and it puts you on almost like a completely different
Speaker 1: plane where you do have emotional distance, absolutely, and you
Speaker 1: do have a lot of other things going for you here.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that you love your job is huge,
Speaker 1: and when she gets really annoying, you might even just
Speaker 1: focus on that. You know, the reasons that you're there,
Speaker 1: all the things you like about working there, and that
Speaker 1: one person doesn't cancel all of those things out, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's part of what's kept me going,
Speaker 1: is just knowing how the how it can be without
Speaker 1: her and knowing you know, again, I do get a
Speaker 1: fairly separate myself from her for the most part. Most
Speaker 1: a lot of people have to deal with her a
Speaker 1: lot more than I do, So I just kind of
Speaker 1: focus on that and focus on, you know, my little
Speaker 1: bubble and how much I like my bubble. Yes, your
Speaker 1: candles in your bubble, awesome candle and at least you
Speaker 1: have a door that's a silver lining. Absolutely well, So
Speaker 1: that is my advice. Does that help? And is there
Speaker 1: anything else we should talk about that would be helpful? No?
Speaker 1: I think really that even just that last bit, just
Speaker 1: about imagining it, imagining other people watching it, and I'm
Speaker 1: imagining myself watching it. I think that is that is
Speaker 1: something I'm definitely gonna apply and try and think about
Speaker 1: a lot more, because again, thinking about it right now,
Speaker 1: just away from her is so comical just to imagine
Speaker 1: this kind of person. So I think that will definitely
Speaker 1: help day to day, if if it does kind of
Speaker 1: impede on me anymore. I'll just imagine, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a character in a show and watching her doing something
Speaker 1: like that, and maybe you can get a successful screenplay
Speaker 1: out of it. Maybe that's my new calling. That's right. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show. It
Speaker 1: was a pleasure. Thanks for listening to the Asking Manager Podcast.
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